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Three versions of what happened: Kamchatka in the zone of ecological anomaly



Killing sea

Dead sea animals were found by local surfers on October 2 on Khalaktyrsky beach, on Bolshaya and Malaya Lagernykh and in Babya Bay. All these objects are included in the Avachinsky Bay in Kamchatka. How long they lay there is unknown, but the sight was not for the faint of heart. Several hundred dead sea reptiles, fish and mammals dot the beach. The photographs instantly became a sensation on an almost world scale, and the initial results showed that the maximum concentration of oil products in coastal water was 3,6 times higher, and that of much more dangerous phenols - twice. Only now the analyzes were carried out not in a state accredited laboratory, but by local amateur chemists. To top it all off stories residents from nearby villages told about complaints of people swimming in the sea about pain in the eyes and a sore throat. Some doctors even diagnosed a burn of the cornea of ​​the eye. Surfers who inadvertently visited the waters of Khalaktyrsky Beach on October 2-3, additionally observed serious skin irritation.

After such a warm-up, it became clear to everyone that another environmental disaster with far-reaching consequences had occurred in Russia. How long has the tragedy with the oil spill in Norilsk passed? The world community and the liberal-minded public expected that officials were about to repent of their deeds, taking all the blame on themselves. The townsfolk and journalists quickly found the alleged culprit - a military facility on the Nalycheva River, which flows into the ill-fated Avacha Bay. But this time the officials of the region and especially the Kremlin kept silence: after all, Kamchatka is very far away, while the showdown is going on, a lot of time will run out. However, the very first official water samples showed the absence of critical concentrations of the most common chemical pollutants. For a deeper analysis, another group of samples of water, soil and tissues of dead animals were taken.

It was these pictures that alarmed the "green". Source:

The materials had to be transported to Moscow: no suitable laboratory was found either in the Kamchatka Territory or in the Far Eastern Federal District. This is to the question of how quickly local authorities can react in such situations. Greenpeace activists added fuel to the fire in this vague story, seeing in the satellite images some dark green masses allegedly emerging from the mouth of the Nalychev River. This was enough for the "green" to make a final diagnosis - the disaster has man-made roots. In a situation of complete uncertainty, the words of tourists who managed to visit the "disaster zone" sound amazing. One of the tourists wrote on a blog:

We started from the place where the surfers' spot is. Nobody cleaned the beach, there are algae and shells lying around. But there is no ecological catastrophe even nearby. An absolutely standard look after a storm. There are no dead animals at all.

At the beginning of the week, scientists from the All-Russian Research Institute of Fisheries and Oceanography found dense yellow-brown and green deposits in the bottom of the Nalychev River, the genesis of which also cannot be determined on the spot. It is not known whether the analysis will be carried out on the basis of the All-Russian Research Institute or will again have to be sent by courier to Moscow.

Three stories with consequences

Governor of the Kamchatka Territory Vladimir Solodov, speaking on Monday with an official statement on the incident in Avacha Bay, mentioned three versions being considered by the investigation. By the way, the Investigative Committee joined the search for the reasons, which in most cases still finds the perpetrators. According to the governor, the priority is still the version of man-made pollution that led to the mass mortality of the inhabitants of coastal waters. Such a high concentration of dead animals is explained by the storm that raged the day before the death. He could randomly concentrate dead aquatic organisms and throw them on the beach. At the same time, they could also die away from the coast at great depths. Most likely, in this case, without the storm, no one would know about anything: octopuses and other animals would decompose in the water column. It is worth remembering that some of them would inevitably become someone's food, thereby spreading possible toxins to higher animals. For many, an option for the development of a man-made version would be an inadvertent spill of some toxic agent into coastal waters. And the best option would be the military origin of the poison: they say, the Russians did not calculate their forces during the tests of a new chemical weapons... The second version, in the opinion of Governor Solodov, could be natural disasters that led to mass mortality of the inhabitants of the depths.

Eyewitnesses said that in addition to dead animals, there were a lot of brown algae on the coast. The high concentration of these organisms negatively affects marine animals. Firstly, certain brown algae can release toxins, and, secondly, they intensively consume oxygen dissolved in the waters. In both cases, this can lead to mass death of the living around. The storm may well have played a cruel joke in this incident as well. Moving huge masses of water can be accompanied by the release of toxic compounds. At least, this is what RAS scientists are talking about. There is no clarification on how this is possible, but it can be assumed that storms reveal some sources of toxins at the bottom. Perhaps not even natural sources, but quite technogenic origin. For example, containers of poisons that were barbarously disposed of years earlier. It is not at all necessary that the origin of these substances was Russian: the Pacific Ocean is large, many countries dump their waste there. Including Japan. For example, remember where the Japanese poured waste water from reactors in Fukushima.


And the third version of what happened. A few days earlier, a small earthquake was recorded in the surrounding area, quite possibly causing the poisoning of the living. In principle, in such a zone of seismic activity as Kamchatka, earthquakes have long been familiar, and fish do not die from them en masse. But they can provoke changes in the profile of the sea day, as well as the activation of small volcanoes. Not necessarily lava, it is enough to throw away the soluble content, which is slightly more modest than the content of the periodic table. The species diversity of the dead animals just indicates a deadly source somewhere at a depth closer to the bottom of the Sea of ​​Japan. Seismic activity could provoke the release from the earth's crust of certain substances not associated with volcanic activity, which were not even toxic to the living at first. And only under the influence of oxidation processes in the water column, they were transformed into poisons. After all, an earthquake could shake up perennial organic sediments at the bottom of the sea. When this organic matter was spread over the bottom part of the water area, it very quickly consumed all the dissolved oxygen for its own oxidation. This caused the mass death of living beings. Of course, the option is a bit fantastic, but there are no official results yet, it also has the right to be.

In any scenario, the bloated incident could not be transformed into a catastrophe. At the moment, the MPC is not exceeded for any chemical pollutant, there is not a single human victim, and the costs of liquidation relate only to the collection of dead animals. It is highly likely that due to such a rapid development of events, it will not be possible to determine the true cause at all. And the ecological tragedy will remain anomalies, the causes of which will invariably be blamed on government agencies.
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  1. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 7 October 2020 05: 16
    And the best option would be the military origin of the poison: they say, the Russians did not calculate their strength during the tests of new chemical weapons.

    What's new there. "Newbie" was brought to mind to kill finally started
    1. impostor
      impostor 7 October 2020 09: 50
      "Newbie" was brought to mind to kill finally started

      Even flies do not die from a beginner. It is necessary to look for a leaky tanker carrying the Tomsk moonshine "Kaftanchikovo"
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 33
        Quote: impostor
        Even flies don't die from a beginner

        A week ago, I suggested opening a company for the production of toothpaste from "Novichok" laughing
        Sai would be rich. They would sweep it off the shelves
    2. novel66
      novel66 7 October 2020 11: 22
      definitely! bulk tests failed! Hello hi
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 31
        Hello Roman hi
        SLbdi went either without a sense of humor, or they feel sorry for the basement.
        I forgot to put a smiley, minus laughing
  2. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 7 October 2020 05: 16
    and in democratic Australia, when in September hundreds of dolphins threw themselves on the shore, something like a world hysteria is not observed ... they said that problems with echolocation and everyone calmed down ...
    1. figwam
      figwam 7 October 2020 05: 36
      When in Australia about one billion animals died from forest fires, for some reason no one said that the authorities could not manage such a continent.
    2. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 7 October 2020 13: 52
      Quote: carstorm 11
      when in September hundreds of dolphins washed ashore

      Did you throw yourself out because of the merged poison? Or were they lying dead on the banks?

      Quote: figvam
      for some reason no one said that the authorities could not manage such a continent.

      And in the USA, blacks are lynched ...
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 9 October 2020 01: 55
        so no one in our country has proved the presence of the poison. but there is silence and we have screams. reasons nobody cares when everything happens in Russia. facts don't bother anyone.
  3. Asad
    Asad 7 October 2020 05: 36
    A burial ground with arsenic is nearby, for 5 billion a ditch was dug and thrown away! Someone has mastered denyuzhku, maybe they will get caught.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 7 October 2020 05: 41
      if you are talking about a landfill, then, apart from activists and journalists, no one knows anything about this. and how these gentlemen know how to invent everything has long been known. but generally quite funny. Several years ago, environmentalists there complained about explosions of ammunition that violates the ecology, and then it suddenly turned out that there was also buried arsenic. big top)
      1. Asad
        Asad 7 October 2020 05: 43
        Yesterday I read that the governor was informed that the dogs may be lying!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 7 October 2020 05: 47
          I do not even doubt that such cases are not uncommon when animals die at the bottom for natural reasons. volcanoes are still there .. just here it also coincided with the storm and was thrown ashore. oil products would be found immediately. phenol is only twice the amount. the story was inflated into hysteria on social networks. At the same time, I repeat in September hundreds of dolphins in Australia threw themselves ashore and all these activists are silent in a rag.
          1. Asad
            Asad 7 October 2020 05: 49
            All the same, they will blow up to universal proportions like with Alyosha!
          2. martin-159
            martin-159 7 October 2020 06: 14
            You must be an oceanographer?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 7 October 2020 06: 16
              no, I just read what the RAS writes and not bloggers of all stripes.
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 7 October 2020 14: 00
                See what bloggers write:

                In the Main Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia on the fact of pollution of the water area of ​​the Avachinsky Bay of the Kamchatka Territory and the death of marine animals, a criminal case is being investigated, initiated under Part 2 of Art. 247, part 2 of Art. 252 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (violation of the rules for the circulation of environmentally hazardous substances and waste; pollution of the marine environment).

                Also, probably, have not read the RAS.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 9 October 2020 01: 54
                  initiation of a case is quite an ordinary act. they need to investigate. if the perpetrators are there they will be punished if not they will be closed. they could not help but open it. this is a practical step that is always done on the basis of videos and photos on the net and which cannot be ignored. the conclusions of the RAS will be included in the case in the same way.
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      3. Kisa
        Kisa 9 October 2020 06: 10
        that's in vain you Dima ernichaesh. I saw these ..... business executives here in the Far East. the Pavlovsk bay between Vlad and Nakhodka - the base of nuclear boats until recently - the budget for the burial ground was mastered and the barrels from the Kalash were shot and flooded in b. Shooter - fanilo for the whole Yap sea. I saw enough of the tundra in Evgikinot. Carrying out - the military has done it just scary - there really is no one except the military and there is no one there - we did the northern delivery to them with the PMP. Yes, even civilians in Kamchatka Sakhalin - pink salmon chum salmon on a pit with an escavator every year - farmers .... th - censorship words ended ... and examples of these are a carriage and a cart. ... ... they beat one cap's face here - they skated from the ship near the wall to Nakhodki, only forgot that there was ice around, then we are surprised that the smelt of navaga stinks of fuel oil
  4. Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 7 October 2020 05: 54
    This burial of pesticides in the village of Radigino seeped into the ground, and then along the river. Nalychevo got into the Pacific Ocean

    There are a lot of videos walking in watsapps. The authorities' version: let's figure it out! And then you look and forget.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 7 October 2020 06: 18
    There are many versions, there is such a version, somewhere nearby, I don’t remember the name, the "graveyard" of fishing vessels and warships, there was a leak of fuel and some poisonous substances. In the end, what happened happened. I will repeat many versions. But I wonder, near Norilsk, how are things going? Did you eliminate the consequences or not?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 7 October 2020 10: 22
      In Novosti TV there was also about a landfill, but, like from agriculture, from industries, closed.
      95% of the inhabitants of the bottom are dead. It’s a pity.
  6. nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 06: 24
    And nobody was alarmed that there are no laboratories in this region? So it will be in the future. For some, this is a big spot. For others, it's a spot. To see, the optimization took place also in the protection of nature. There was the Ministry of Water Resources. There were laboratories. Nature became everything. This is not the first and not the last "mystery" of nature.
    1. Avior
      Avior 7 October 2020 07: 03
      But you never know that there are local laboratories far from the center to determine!
      In Moscow, it will be more reliable.
      1. Marine engineer
        Marine engineer 7 October 2020 08: 40
        I wonder if this happened off the coast of Alaska, the state authorities would also drag the samples to Washington?
        1. Avior
          Avior 7 October 2020 08: 57
          Savages, what to take from them, they have no centralization of power when the capital decides everything.
          1. Marine engineer
            Marine engineer 7 October 2020 09: 26
            Yes, they still have to work and work on the “vertical”.
    2. astepanov
      astepanov 7 October 2020 07: 13
      Quote: nikvic46

      And nobody was alarmed that there are no laboratories in this region?

      Well, it started. Calm down, there are laboratories, many laboratories. But you probably think that go into any laboratory and say: "Come on, klystirny tubes, find me that, I don't know what, this moment!" And everyone immediately runs in and brings you what you are looking for on a platter with a blue border.
      No, dear man, that's not how things are done. As a rule, laboratories are dedicated to specialized analyzes, and instruments, reagents and specialists are suitable only for these analyzes. If you bring a metal blank instead of a can of feces to the clinical laboratory, then no one will be able to determine the composition of the alloy. Keeping a universal analytical center with mass spectrographs and highly qualified specialists just in case nobody will become: it is expensive and unproductive.
      1. Motorist
        Motorist 8 October 2020 00: 26
        Quote: astepanov
        But you probably think that go into any laboratory and say: "Come on, klystirny tubes, find me that, I don't know what, this moment!" And everyone immediately runs in and brings you what you are looking for on a platter with a blue border.

        That's it! Even standard analyzes of fuels containing almost 1% of ketone C7H10O (read - acetone, a terrible stench without analysis!) Gives the result "GC / MS screening - caution". More precisely, another analysis in a laboratory on the other side of the world.
    3. your1970
      your1970 7 October 2020 07: 35
      Quote: nikvic46
      It looks like the optimization took place for nature protection.

      A joyful cry "But the bureaucrats were cut !!!"
      ......... Uryayaya !!! "
      There were komzem in administrations, they were reduced ... Now, if you had a share, but there is no evidence, it is not a fact that you will find it in the State Fund ...
      There were Regular Chambers in each district - they reduced it, there were 10 left ... and the number of refusals and interruptions immediately increased - the people were taught not to pick up the phone with an unfamiliar number, and to the registrar - if he did not get through and said what to fix / complete, there are no other exits except to suspend or refuse.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 October 2020 08: 06
        We have enough bureaucrats! But for the present, the PROTECTORS of nature "optimized" to the point! They were not honored by the upper managers before, practically for thanks, on the grazing, they held on ... so they saved money on them, finally!
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 7 October 2020 09: 28
          We have seven nurses for nature and ecology, and as you know, seven nurses ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 October 2020 11: 13
            Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
            We have seven nurses for nature and ecology, and as you know, seven nurses ...

            We have not nannies, but greedy privatizers / distributors ... there really caring, guarding, multiplying, in the daytime with fire you will not find!
        2. astepanov
          astepanov 7 October 2020 10: 54
          Eh, come on. In early August 2017, Mr. Medvedev announced with fanfare that 257 billion rubles would be allocated from the treasury to put the Volga in order. The sum is considerable - three and a half thousand from each working resident of the country. But something is gnawing and alarming.
          First. The industry has collapsed since the time when the current brotherhood came to power. For example, an aircraft plant was ordered to live long and badly in Saratov, the plant of heavy gear-cutting machines shrank from a few thousand people to fifty-two - and you can list and enumerate. Saratov as an industrial city is, alas, a corpse that just did not have time to cool down to the end. Of course, the stocks from these enterprises could not grow in volume either, but they were simply obliged to fall, and many times over.
          The second one. As far as I can remember, there is so much talk about the construction of treatment facilities. The question is, how is it: the money has been allocated, something is allegedly built, and the volumes of effluents are growing.
          Third. Minister of Natural Resources and Environment Sergei Donskoy at a meeting "On the Preservation, Pollution Prevention and Rational Use of the Volga River" in Volgograd said that 2,5 million tons of pollutants are dumped into the Volga every year. How is this known if the implementation of the program only BEGINS WITH THE MONITORING OF ENTERPRISES TO DETERMINE THE COMPOSITION AND VOLUME OF RUNOFF? And how was the amount of 257 billion rubles calculated, if it is not known from what, where and how to save the river? And what have Mr. Minister's 1800 inspectors been doing so far? Finally, why hasn't any of the previously developed programs been implemented yet? And where is the money allocated for them?
          Something tells me that all this is yet another scam, the only result of which will be the appearance of beautiful official mansions on the banks of the Volga.
          I will try to confirm the right to doubt with some examples.
          It is alleged that one of the main sources of pollution of the Volga is the entrainment of toxic substances from agricultural circulation. One of these substances is granosan, an insecticide containing mercury. The question is, where does it come from in the fields if its use is prohibited 30 years ago? Who allowed its production or import, its sale to agricultural enterprises? Who was arrested for this, property was confiscated, etc.? The Internet is silent about this.
          Another example. Madame, who is responsible for the sanitary welfare of Muscovites, cheerfully told the television that “melons and watermelons from stalls along the roads should not be bought, since they absorb heavy metals from the air.” Yeah, roads are a source of heavy metals! But I, a fool, have a question: WHERE DO these heavy metals (read lead) come from in the air if the production of leaded gasoline in Russia is prohibited on November 15, 2002, i.e. already 18 years old? So who is lying?
          In general, I do not believe Mr. Medvedev. Better he invents 99-watt light bulbs.
          For the discharge of untreated effluents, enterprises pay considerable fines to the treasury, which, according to the law, should go towards environmental protection measures. Of course, in the post-perestroika years, so many fines were collected that would be enough for anything - and where is that money? Buried under the foundations of famous mansions again?
          Any enterprise would gladly build a sewage treatment plant, but the beggar of our production does not have his own funds, and the loans cost so much that taking them means signing his own death warrant. And it is easier for an official to constantly milk and crush factories with fines. However, it is even easier to have a compromise in the form of bribes.
          Yes, the Volga needs to be put in order - but only for this it is necessary to remove from this work all the ministries that have not shown anything before, completely change personalities, from which until now there was no sense, figure out where the old money had gone and the thieves to punish so, so that it would be disagreeable to others, to analyze the problem and develop a target program not by officials, but by the Russian Academy of Sciences, calculate the required funds (and not the way we do now, we’ll cut 257 billion, and then we’ll figure it out) to create a public commission to monitor the progress and expenditures funds, and then, after praying, start.
          But something tells me that it will be exactly as Medvedev wants: the money will burn out, the Volga will be crap completely, and they will quietly forget about the program.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 October 2020 11: 22
            Quote: astepanov
            Yes, the Volga needs to be put in order

            Everything is roughly true! There are fewer enterprises, there should be fewer polluting effluents, BUT !!! Any trifle that does not clean its rubbish in any way divorced NOT MEASURED !!!
            Volga in the lower reaches, not clean! But the sturgeon began to spawn ... though not enough. The natural cycle of migration of the population to spawning grounds was disrupted about 20 years ago and nothing will improve by itself ... if only a person with all his filth does not disappear completely.
  7. jonht
    jonht 7 October 2020 06: 57
    Here is a video from the right tributary of the Nalychevo River.
    1. t7310
      t7310 7 October 2020 10: 24
      I have repeatedly heard the opinion that you need to go by helicopter or by boat or walk and see where this foam ends ...
      1. jonht
        jonht 7 October 2020 11: 51
        If it washed out something, then it could have washed it and the source of pollution is difficult to find. And if it is a dump, then on the run they will find traces of activity.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 7 October 2020 07: 18
    Green, of course, is a necessary structure, useful, but only when they are engaged in this necessary, useful business !!! As soon as they begin to go beyond what is necessary and useful, beyond their competence, they must ... must be returned to their true path!
  9. Varyag71
    Varyag71 7 October 2020 07: 37
    Well, tell me, lovers of amendments? Where is the care and preservation of nature?
  10. imobile2008
    imobile2008 7 October 2020 08: 50
    In any scenario, the bloated incident could not be turned into a catastrophe.
    The death of so many animals is a disaster anyway! But that there is no constant monitoring, and "learned from surfers" is bad. What to do in areas where there are no surfers? Yes, we from Fokushima will bring the infection and we will not notice! Everything is sad. And ordering such an article - another drain, that would justify some high officials who do nothing.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 October 2020 09: 35
      Quote: imobile2008
      But there is no constant monitoring, and "learned from surfers" is bad. What to do in areas where there are no surfers? Yes, we from Fokushima will bring the infection and we will not notice!

      It was already ... the neighbors were already throwing "guano" into the Volga! sturgeon for how many years did not enter it, darling, until the drains were cleaned. so everyone keeps quiet, only rumors, rumors, OBS, in short!
  11. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 7 October 2020 09: 25
    Or maybe this is a mass suicide of the inhabitants of the ocean in protest? laughing To attract humanity to the problems of the world's oceans? smile
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 October 2020 09: 32
      It's right. It makes sense to think about the finitude of all that exists.
      The ocean is great, but it's not endless!
      Humanity really needs to know and remember about this.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 7 October 2020 09: 34
        Everything small sometimes seems to be big ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 7 October 2020 09: 49
          Man in charge and on skeet and over nature !!!
          The plates haven’t arrived yet and have not explained who is in charge, and nature is already proving its supremacy with might and main!
  12. BAI
    BAI 7 October 2020 09: 48
    Greenpeace activists, who saw on the satellite images some dark green masses, allegedly emerged from the mouth of the Nalychev River.

    Yes, it was perfectly visible on TV - the waves in the bay are green, and without Greenpeace.
    Now the news has shown - 2 versions are being considered: technogenic and natural. The case may be opened in the evening.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 7 October 2020 12: 14
      Quote: BAI
      Yes, it was perfectly visible on TV - the waves in the bay are green, and without Greenpeace.

      And this is on the Volga last August
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 8 October 2020 16: 43
        I saw the Volga from the plane - yes, it was of a strange color
        but maybe it's algae?
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 9 October 2020 09: 51
          Quote: yehat2
          I saw the Volga from the plane - yes, it was of a strange color
          but maybe it's algae?

          Yes, if you remember, last year in late July and early August it was cool enough, and then the heat came and the Volga "blossomed". This was filmed from the board of a motor ship in the Saratov reservoir. Why have I posted the picture - it's just that the article contains a photo with green water, and here is water of the same color and appearance. But I know that it is algae, and if, for example, I tell you that it is chemical pollution? After all, not knowing the truth, you can believe what has been said. Therefore, as the "officer's daughter" used to say: "not everything is so simple," i.e. can wait for the conclusions of the commission on the incident. We love to draw conclusions from the sofa. This is not for you personally, but just a statement of the general trend on the site, almost everything is gone, ahh hi
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 9 October 2020 10: 08
            our whole city was filled up after the accident with treatment salts of hydrofluoric acid - it looked exactly the same as in your picture of the Volga, only the shade was a bit yellower.
  13. Engineer
    Engineer 7 October 2020 11: 13
    The author is certainly disgusting.
    There is evidence of mass deaths of animals, there are photos too. But a certain "tourist" was quoted as saying "there are no corpses."
    According to the governor, the priority is still the version of man-made pollution that led to the mass mortality of the inhabitants of coastal waters. Such a high concentration of dead animals is explained by the storm that raged the day before the death. He could randomly concentrate dead aquatic organisms and throw them on the beach.
    The second sentence completely contradicts the first. Either a man-made cause, or the storm "accidentally" threw out the whole ghoul.

    At the moment, there is no excess of MPC for any chemical pollutant
    Author, catch
    Investigations of water samples in Kamchatka showed an excess of the permissible indicators for oil products by 4 times, for phenol - by 2,5 times, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the press service of the Russian Prosecutor General's Office.

    Does VO have a bottom ???
    1. 41st region
      41st region 7 October 2020 13: 18
      "The author is disgusting ...", "Is there a bottom ..."
      Not enough anguish, you are our non-disgusting.
    2. Evgeny Fedorov
      8 October 2020 06: 52
      Well then read
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 8 October 2020 08: 53
        "According to the governor" ??
        This is when the article is presented without any reservations as a fact
        In any scenario, the bloated incident could not be transformed into a catastrophe. At the moment, there is no excess of MPC for any chemical pollutant,
  14. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 7 October 2020 11: 50
    I flew to Kamchatka on September 20th. I want to say that when the plane comes in for landing, it passes from the southern side of the "home volcanoes" makes a U-turn over the Avacha Bay, from the left side you can see the Khalaktyrsky beach, from the starboard side - the bays (Bolshaya, Srednyaya and Malaya camp) and the famous "Three Brothers" ... On the 23rd, he sent friends who had flown in from Moscow on a pleasure boat, route: Three brothers, Fr. Toporkov, about. Old men, fished (caught a flounder, lenok and greens). Did hyo, and if the sea urchin spawn was lifted by the driver. Nobody got sick.

    The site of the surfer's camp on Khalaktyrsky beach is popular with the townspeople, the communal services harvest the sand, as well as the beach on Malaya Lagernaya. The places are not wild.

    Shakes in Kamchatka regularly (once every two months), often epicenters in Avachinsky, Kamchatka bays, but this does not throw dead mollusks and seals onto the beaches.
    Tankers going to the North-East pass in the distance, not always visible on the horizon.
    For a spill to occur, it must be punctured ...
    The bottom of the Khalaktyrsky beach in this area is sandy.
    There are no mining or fish processing enterprises in the Nalychevo river basin.
    Regarding the burial grounds, I doubt that ecologists will be allowed into the territory of the military training ground. In the village Radygino has no burial ground. Perhaps the attached scans of the documents meant the Radygino military training ground. In addition, further in the Nalychevskaya Valley, a reserve begins, and a border post is also located.
    Kamchatgeologiya is located not in Elizovo, but in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky on the street. Bering.
    In 2002, the Kamchatka newspaper "Vesti" belonged to Mr. Marderfeld, he carried out a raider seizure of the fishing (the oldest enterprise) Trawling Fleet Administration, went bankrupt. There was a conflict of interest with the administration of the Kamchatka region, in general the newspaper became "Yellow Shade" for custom publications.
    The mooring of decommissioned and half-sunken ships is located in the southern part of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, the Kultushnoye Lake region, as well as in the water area of ​​the Avacha Bay within the city.
    Hydrobionites have never died from algae.
    As for the military, since August, exercises and firing have been conducted, with missile launches.
    There are many military warehouses (open on sites).
    In 2004, in the area of ​​the village. In Northern Koryak (about 30 km from Yelizovo, airport) there were explosions of ammunition, started at 04:00 am, continued until 09:00 local time. I then lived in Yelizovo, the transom was carried out, I, asleep, pushed my wife out of bed, away from the window, lay down on top of her (4 years have passed since my business trip to the Caucasus).
    There are laboratories capable of conducting analysis in Kamchatka.
    The question is, will it be reflected in the results of the check what it was?
    It is also known that "high officials" have arrived from the RF Ministry of Defense.
    1. 41st region
      41st region 7 October 2020 12: 28
      The theme of the Anglo-French landing of 1854 is not disclosed at all smile
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 7 October 2020 13: 12
        I think the Russian IC will figure it out: "who was called from where"
  15. thinker
    thinker 7 October 2020 14: 10
    Quote: Maximilian37
    This is the burial place of pesticides in the village of Radigino

    There are a lot of things walking on the net request
    07.10.2020 18: 14 41
    No violations and pesticides found at the Radygino military training ground
  16. yehat2
    yehat2 8 October 2020 16: 40
    the article does not say a word about the large leakage runoff being monitored along the river for over a month.
    We wrote to the leadership of the region, and now it is suddenly unclear what happened?
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 October 2020 08: 58
    With the landfill, everything seems to be fine. The UK reported yesterday.
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 16 October 2020 08: 55
      They reported that it was from algae.
      And the fact that the Zhupanova river is nearby (no emissions). Or the Avacha River (Kamchatka Mississippi) has no emissions, algae too ...
      In the second half of summer, mussels are not suitable for human consumption due to the blooming of red algae. But, September and October do not belong to this period any more.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 16 October 2020 10: 16
        And in the end, where did you come to?
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 16 October 2020 12: 06
          The algae in the Nalychevo River, which released toxins, are to blame ...
          Brad, I don’t remember such a misfortune over the past 20 years.
          1. 41st region
            41st region 17 October 2020 06: 26
            Quiet as it has become ... The sufferers have fled, will suffer for other reasons. Where they also know everything better than anyone. And so angrily they will stigmatize those who doubt the correctness of their one-celled conclusions.
            And the argument "nonsense, I don't remember this in 20 years" is cool.
            "I don't remember - that means there was nothing."
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 17 October 2020 07: 31
              Do you think that the voiced version of the incident - toxins from algae are not nonsense ?! Is it true?
              When were cases of such poisoning in Kamchatka? Have the reasons been established?
              1. 41st region
                41st region 17 October 2020 09: 05
                You have the false impression that I have to answer your questions.
                In order to get the information you are interested in, you will have to work hard on your own. Look for texture, read scientific literature. Or at least popular science. This is much more difficult than issuing slogans like "I remember here - I don't remember here."
                And so do everyone who wants to approach the issue of interest objectively.
                1. Lynx2000
                  Lynx2000 17 October 2020 11: 21
                  Your comment on my comment implies a dialogue, which is usually based on questions and answers.
                  In your comments, I did not receive any informative information on this issue for myself.
                  If the interlocutor criticizes, as a rule, he justifies his position ...