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Baku launched a large-scale offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenian Defense Ministry reports

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The Azerbaijani army is conducting large-scale offensive operations in the southern direction in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR). The Ministry of Defense of Armenia reports this.


Yesterday, for the first time since the beginning of the aggravation in Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan visited the unrecognized republic. "Armenpress" was informed about this in its press service. He talked with NKR President Arayik Harutyunyan and senior military officials. Defense Minister of the Artsakh Republic Major General Jalal Harutyunyan reported on the counterattacks and further actions to the leaders of the two Armenian states.


Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in an interview with the Turkish TV channel TRT Haber that Ankara is ready, together with the Russian Federation, to contribute to the settlement of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. He noted that it should be solved "in the root". At the same time, Cavusoglu transparently hinted that it was time for Moscow to stop supporting Yerevan:

Everyone should be on the side of the truth. There is an occupier and there is a victim of the occupation. Justice is on the side of Azerbaijan. Countries, including Russia, need to be on the side of justice.
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  1. stas
    stas 6 October 2020 18: 33
    -1
    Hitler also attacked on a large scale, brought a lot of grief to everyone, then he shot himself in the back, out of grief!
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 18: 39
      49
      Azerbaijan is returning its 7 regions, recognized by the UN. I thought the Armenians in 30 years built concrete pillboxes like on the Mannerheim line and underground shelters for equipment, and judging by the footage from their places on the front line, there are bedbugs made of cinder blocks with a thin layer of earth and holes dug in the ground for equipment instead of shelters. No cover from the threat from above, not even a primitive camouflage - all the equipment is in plain sight and the drones crack them like nuts for breakfast. And the armament of the Armenians is decades behind the Azerbaijanis. What the Armenians have been doing for 30 years is absolutely not clear.
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 18: 44
        16
        If not for Turkey, Aliyev would have sat silently about his 7 regions. You better tell me how you dealt with the Russians on the railway. station Shamkhor, during the First World War!
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 18: 51
          40
          The Bashkir was there, let's not whistle about the Shamkhor station. And let the Armenians ask the USA, Ukraine and Georgia and NATA for help. Those with whom the teachings were conducted recently. They probably worked out the opposition to Azerbaijan with them.

          1. stas
            stas 6 October 2020 18: 57
            -4
            Turkey will receive from both the US and Russia! This has happened many times in the history of Russia and Turkey!
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 6 October 2020 19: 14
              22
              Quote: stas
              Turkey will receive from both the US and Russia! This has happened many times in the history of Russia and Turkey!

              And many times did the Turks receive from the United States?
              1. stas
                stas 6 October 2020 19: 32
                -11 qualifying.
                And now you will see how the Turks will be allowed to smell between their legs!
              2. Revival
                Revival 6 October 2020 20: 36
                16
                Seven times like, even under Peter 1, a joint campaign of Russia and the United States, ask Stas for more details, he remembers the details)))
                1. Jager
                  Jager 6 October 2020 21: 47
                  11
                  Peter I would be very surprised at some kind of USA in his time))
                  1. Nychego
                    Nychego 7 October 2020 03: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: Jager
                    Peter I would be very surprised at some kind of USA in his time))

                    Peter I would have been surprised seven times at the alleged issuance of cradles to the Turks. Under Peter, the Turks parted with a score of 1,5: 1,5.
                    1. yehat2
                      yehat2 7 October 2020 08: 13
                      +2
                      Under Peter, Russia only came into contact with Turkey, having recaptured a part of the Don outskirts, which was called Little Russia (there was no Ukraine then, like the United States, either); these lands were also called the left and right banks.
                      The maps of 1763 show Zaporozhye and the Crimean Khanate. Again, no Ukraine.
                      Apparently, all Ukrainians at that time were busy digging up the sea.
              3. Revival
                Revival 6 October 2020 20: 36
                +1
                That's just bad luck, but it was not in the history of the United States)))
              4. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 22: 04
                +2
                Yes, they did. 27 years, the United States paid tribute to the Ottoman Empire for the fact that the Ottomans promised not to touch their merchant ships. In the history of the United States, it has not paid anyone before or after.
                1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 23: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Oquzyurd
                  .27 years the United States paid tribute to the Ottoman Empire for the fact that the Ottomans promised not to touch their merchant ships

                  In this case, the Turks have been paying tribute to our customs for many years so that it does not touch their tomatoes.

                  - Snickers please.
                  The seller turned away for the snickers, and the buyer whispered further:
                  - I order you a slave!
                  - What did you say?
                  - No no. Nothing. And a pack of cigarettes.
              5. Revolver
                Revolver 7 October 2020 10: 34
                +2
                Quote: Vol4ara
                And many times did the Turks receive from the United States?

                The Turks (or their vassals in Libya, which is the same thing) got rid of the US Navy and the Marines back in 1805.
          2. Owls 79
            Owls 79 6 October 2020 19: 14
            -14 qualifying.
            Anyone can walk with posters. This is not prohibited in Armenia. In fact, Armenia violated any obligations to the Russian Federation? Or maybe she voted against somewhere?
            Write, maybe I'm not in the know.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 6 October 2020 19: 50
              28
              Quote: Owl 79
              Anyone can walk with posters. This is not prohibited in Armenia. In fact, Armenia violated any obligations to the Russian Federation?

              And what did Russia violate in front of Armenia, for which the people of Armenia call the Russians occupiers? For the fact that Russian border guards are in Armenia? So Russia can also withdraw them, and they will not call them "occupiers". When writing, esteemed sir, look at two sides, not to the left.
              1. Owls 79
                Owls 79 6 October 2020 20: 15
                -34 qualifying.
                Justify: "Armenia called the Russians invaders." Links to official sources of Armenia.
                Fast . Or are you a chatterbox.
                1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 23: 09
                  14
                  Quote: Owl 79
                  Quick

                  Quickly eat only a log in the eggs. Want to?
                2. yehat2
                  yehat2 7 October 2020 08: 16
                  +5
                  and non-interference in throwing mud at an ally on the streets, in the media, etc. - is this not an official position?
                  and negotiations on military cooperation with the United States, which consider the Russian Federation enemy number 1, is this also an unofficial position?
                  the thief does not shout that he is a thief - he just steals, and the victims are shouting.
                3. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 7 October 2020 08: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Owl 79
                  Links to official sources of Armenia.
                  Fast . Or are you a chatterbox.

                  Why sources if there is a photo, it is clearer than all sources, I may be a chatterbox, but for now I believe my eyes. The article should be read in full.
                  1. Misha Honest
                    Misha Honest 7 October 2020 09: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Why sources if there is a photo, it is clearer than all sources, I may be a chatterbox, but for now I believe my eyes.

                    It one and only photos for some reason are posted by all and sundry ... negative On him two not the smartest or most adequate representatives of Armenia with a poster. And what?
                    ONE SINGLE PHOTO - PROOF ?! wassat
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 7 October 2020 10: 55
                      0
                      Quote: Misha Honest
                      For some reason, this one single photo is posted by all and sundry ... There are two not the most intelligent or adequate representatives of Armenia with a poster. And what?

                      Well then, look CHO? or NOT CHO?



                      1. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 8 October 2020 00: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Well then, look CHO? or NOT CHO?

                        Is that all, or are there more pictures? )
                        So - in any flock there are black sheep. Including our own, and not only the Armenians. But the Armenians mostly openly demonstrate their displeasure with us, unlike the Azerbaijanis - they shake your hand with one hand, and with the other they always have a dagger behind their back ... hi
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 8 October 2020 08: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        So - in any flock there are black sheep. Including our own, and not only the Armenians.

                        There are everywhere and Soros and bulk and quiet, but most people are normal and adequate. And I mean how these black sheep will look into the eyes of our people, and even their own, when a threat looms over the country, who will reach out and help. Everybody sees a fly in the ointment. And how to think and who to root for when you have friends on both sides.
                      3. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 10 October 2020 17: 01
                        0
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        There are everywhere and Soros and bulk and quiet, but most people are normal and adequate. And I mean how these black sheep will look into the eyes of our people, and even their own, when a threat looms over the country, who will reach out and help. Everybody sees a fly in the ointment. And how to think and who to root for when you have friends on both sides.

                        Sorry for the Armenians then. When the majority is judged by the minority ... request
                        By the way, Russia is judged in the same way.
          3. Jager
            Jager 6 October 2020 21: 49
            10
            Then they will yell that the Russians left them))
        2. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 20: 20
          33
          Quote: Owl 79
          Write, maybe I'm not in the know.

          Armenians did not support Russia with Crimea. They squeezed out from Armenia not only Russian business, but also the business of Russian Armenians. Leading pro-Russian politician Robert Kocheryan was imprisoned. Armenian media and social networks pour mud on Russia every hour. The Armenians are hiding on their territory and are not handing over anti-Russian leaders to Russia. Well, nafig such, if I may say so, Russia's "ally" surrendered? They did not help us in any way and do not want to help, why should Russia fit in for them, and perhaps with the lives of its soldiers? What did Armenia give Russia to do this?
          PS minus is not mine.
          1. Owls 79
            Owls 79 6 October 2020 20: 35
            -8
            Armenians have the right to plant and overthrow their presidents. That's when someone from outside does it then it's not normal. There are government agreements. Armenia has observed and is observing them. A military alliance with Russia is not a whim of a single president. This is the will of the people.
            And he supports Russia as best he can. For example, he sends sappers and doctors, as well as humanitarian aid to Syria.
            1. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 20: 43
              24
              In Armenia, only in the US Embassy in Yerevan there are under a thousand people, let the States organize support for them. All the boys there are adults, and in the adult world it is customary to answer for the "bazaar"! Our only allies, whom I know in that region, are at our base in Gyumri. I have not heard of others.
              1. Owls 79
                Owls 79 6 October 2020 20: 49
                -22 qualifying.
                For what market? Market relations are specific to you. And interstate is between Armenia and Russia. How many people in any embassies should not worry anyone in any country.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 6 October 2020 22: 41
                  +2
                  How many people in any embassies should not worry anyone in any country.

                  Soros's manual again? lol
                  Go ... count your cons ...
            2. seregin-s1
              seregin-s1 6 October 2020 22: 09
              20
              Let the Armenians go to the USA! No Russian soldier should die for their hairy bottom!
            3. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 01: 23
              10
              Quote: Owl 79
              Armenians have the right to plant and overthrow their presidents. That's when someone from outside does it then it's not normal. There are government agreements. Armenia has observed and is observing them. A military alliance with Russia is not a whim of a single president. This is the will of the people.
              And he supports Russia as best he can. For example, he sends sappers and doctors, as well as humanitarian aid to Syria.

              Well, if we approach the issue formally, then under the CSTO we are obliged to defend the territorial integrity of Armenia within the internationally recognized borders, and not to help you with the occupation of Azerbaijani territories, right? You are all for international law since Crimea has not been recognized, right? Here we are the same. If someone comes to Armenia, we will kick them out. They just won't come. They are not fools. They are not quarreling with us, they are recapturing their land, I can argue in advance by notifying us and having received guarantees of non-interference if they do not cross the line. And you got all this, just for the "independently chosen" little Pashiyan. They wanted to live according to the LETTER of contracts, and themselves sell us to America - well, here we are. Good luck now.
          2. Mik1701
            Mik1701 6 October 2020 21: 59
            +3
            Even Iran insists on the return of territories, which may complicate the supply of weapons to Armenia.
          3. Nazar
            Nazar 7 October 2020 04: 51
            10
            Bashkirkhan - you listed a lot of unpleasant facts about the anti-Russian affairs of Armenia, but by and large this is not all important, trifles, but the fact that bio-laboratories of the Pentagon operate on the territory of Armenia is serious and for all Russia's demands to ensure the possibility of control over activities Yerevan refused these hotbeds of infection.
            It's sad, but with Kazakhstan, the same story is like this, "soyuznichki", for a century you would not see them ...,
        3. businessv
          businessv 6 October 2020 20: 29
          +8
          Quote: Owl 79
          Anyone can walk with posters. This is not prohibited in Armenia.
          This is not prohibited anywhere, but you must understand that in this case walking is not discussed, the contents of the posters are discussed. Do you want to talk about him? And also the 102nd Russian base is located in Armenia, which does not really dispose Armenia to violate any obligations to the Russian Federation.
          1. Owls 79
            Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 07
            -17 qualifying.
            Are you hinting that the base against the Armenians is located there? Did the Perdogan-Aliyevites brainwash you?
            1. businessv
              businessv 8 October 2020 22: 17
              0
              Quote: Owl 79
              Are you hinting that the base against the Armenians is located there?

              You're an idiot?
        4. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 20: 38
          10
          Quote: Owl 79
          Write, maybe I'm not in the know.

          Yes, you are not aware of a lot of things when it does not concern you personally ...
          I suggest that the freedom-loving Armenian people again pick up anti-Russian posters, maybe the Turks and the "enlightened" Western countries will reckon this with you in the future ...
          1. Owls 79
            Owls 79 6 October 2020 20: 54
            -9
            What country do you live in, can I find out? businessv and Bashkirkhan also answer.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 6 October 2020 20: 56
              +2
              Quote: Owl 79
              What country do you live in, can I find out? businessv and Bashkirkhan also answer.

              Russian Federation (Russia).
              1. Owls 79
                Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 05
                -10 qualifying.
                Does the Russian Federation keep abreast of the fairway of the inscriptions depicted on the posters throughout the country and is responsible for them?
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 6 October 2020 21: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Owl 79
                  Does the Russian Federation keep abreast of the fairway of the inscriptions depicted on the posters throughout the country and is responsible for them?

                  Should answer if the inscriptions are directed to the address of third countries, whose guilt has not been proven ...
                  1. Owls 79
                    Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 52
                    -12 qualifying.
                    Are you cuckoo or what? For what to answer, what is the fault? Nobody will be responsible for a handful of unknown people, it is not clear from where.
                  2. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 6 October 2020 22: 35
                    14
                    Quote: Owl 79
                    Are you cuckoo or what? For what to answer, what is the fault? Nobody will be responsible for a handful of unknown people, it is not clear from where.

                    Well, the Russians do not go with posters, down with the Armenian invaders, although there are more Armenians in the Russian Federation than in Armenia, and even more so than there are Russians in Armenia ..
                  3. Alex777
                    Alex777 6 October 2020 22: 44
                    +5
                    Nobody will be responsible for a handful of unknown people, it is not clear from where.

                    Firstly, it is clear where this "handful" comes from.
                    Secondly, you are already answering. Did not notice?
                  4. passerby
                    passerby 7 October 2020 04: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: Owl 79
                    Are you cuckoo or what? For what to answer, what is the fault? Nobody will be responsible for a handful of unknown people, it is not clear from where.

                    Now, for protection from Azerbaijan and Turkey, you can turn to this "handful of unclear who" of Armenian nationality, or to NATO with which you conducted exercises directed against Russia. Everything is fair. Don't spit in the well as they say.
                2. military_cat
                  military_cat 7 October 2020 04: 31
                  0
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Should answer if the inscriptions are directed to the address of third countries, whose guilt has not been proven ...

                  What do you think should be the responsibility of the Russian Federation for this poster?
          2. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 21: 28
            +2
            Quote: Owl 79
            What country do you live in, can I find out? businessv and Bashkirkhan also answer

            I live in Russia.
          3. businessv
            businessv 8 October 2020 22: 25
            0
            Quote: Owl 79
            What country do you live in, can I find out? businessv and Bashkirkhan also answer.
            To begin with, you are our clever, introduce yourself before speaking to me in such a tone. Well, at the same time write down why you registered here and managed to do so much nonsense that already
            I managed to tire the whole honest company. Didn't you notice from the sleepers you guided that you hit the wrong stream? Bye Bye! hi
      2. kenig1
        kenig1 6 October 2020 22: 46
        +6
        In Paz, a representative of the ruling My Step party in 2019 voted against restoring Russia's rights.
      3. passerby
        passerby 7 October 2020 04: 44
        +1
        Quote: Owl 79
        Anyone can walk with posters. This is not prohibited in Armenia. In fact, Armenia violated any obligations to the Russian Federation? Or maybe she voted against somewhere?
        Write, maybe I'm not in the know.

        We will also vote for you, but you yourself will fight against Azerbaijan and the Turks. I think it will be fair.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 19: 46
      +9
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      And let the Armenians ask the USA, Ukraine and Georgia and NATA for help. Those with whom the teachings were conducted recently.

      Yes, the photo is a stubborn thing, and the evidence is clear, especially the bottom photo. I understand Pashenyan, but I don’t understand ordinary Armenians with posters on the street waiting for the Janissaries and Abreks. BUT the guys waited for them, they are already coming. And all the "friends" are silent, even the neighboring ones, like a mixture of a dachshund with a mongrel, they are silent from under the fence, and how bravely they barked a couple of days ago at Lukashenka. Where are you ? You are sitting on the site, and just silently from behind the fence, only minus.
    3. Owls 79
      Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 54
      -1

      It's not far there.
      1. passerby
        passerby 7 October 2020 04: 21
        +2
        But the Armenians are trying to burn the Russian flag. These guys are now for protection and contact

        https://youtu.be/ewBlU_LOtQE
    4. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 7 October 2020 03: 59
      +2
      Azeris shout in the same way that Russians are their enemies, alas request
      1. passerby
        passerby 7 October 2020 04: 49
        +4
        Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Azeris shout in the same way that Russians are their enemies, alas

        They have a huge advantage over the Armenians - shouting that the Russians are enemies, they do not demand that the Russians fight for them.
  2. Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 20: 37
    -2
    completely from an oak tree, maybe the Azerbaijanis also crucified Christ.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 6 October 2020 21: 47
      +7
      Quote: Alena-Baku
      completely from an oak tree, maybe the Azerbaijanis also crucified Christ.

      But why are you asking? laughing
    2. Jager
      Jager 6 October 2020 21: 51
      +3
      This has not been proven. But it is not refuted either.
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  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 18: 50
    +5
    Khan don't shit. If the dam breaks in the Mingechevir region near Shamkhor, the Azerbaijanis and Turks will not help!
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 18: 58
      +6
      As for the dam, there are dozens (or even hundreds) of missiles with a half-ton penetrating warhead at one point with a KVO of 5-10 meters. Maybe then they will clear the stream. But with such power, it is more effective to destroy substations throughout the country and fire the remaining missiles at refineries, fields, factories.
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 19: 05
        +8
        Enough and 3 land mines 500 kg.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 00
        +2
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        But having such power, it is more effective to destroy substations throughout the country and release the remaining missiles at refineries, fields, factories.

        Well, the guys from Antalya and Izmir have long suggested this to the guys from Baku.
    2. izGOI
      izGOI 6 October 2020 19: 15
      -3
      Then no one will vouch for the Armenian NPP.
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 19: 33
        +2
        She does not work!
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 20: 40
          +1
          Quote: stas
          She does not work!

          One block of two works ...
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 6 October 2020 19: 58
        +2
        Quote: izGOI
        If the dam breaks in the Mingechevir region near Shamkhor, the Azerbaijanis and Turks will not help!

        Quote: izGOI
        Then no one will vouch for the Armenian NPP.

        Take it easy guys. Are there really few deaths?
        1. stas
          stas 6 October 2020 20: 56
          0
          It depends on the mountain goats, not on us!
      3. Lord_Raven
        Lord_Raven 6 October 2020 21: 31
        +4
        And then all of Azerbaijan can be nominated for the Darwin Prize, because when an attempt is made to attack a nuclear power plant, everyone will bomb it, including its closest allies.
      4. Jager
        Jager 6 October 2020 21: 58
        0
        The dam, refinery and substations can be rebuilt, washed away cities and troops too. Not right away, but you can. And the desert contaminated with plutonium, cesium, strontium and the devil knows what for another hundreds of years has not surrendered to anyone. Thousands of kilometers around, because if the ammunition ends up in a waste storage facility or in an operating reactor, Chernobyl will seem like an easy insignificant incident.
      5. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 6 October 2020 22: 05
        +9
        Just for the nuclear power plant, you can grab not from Armenia.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 19: 51
      0
      Quote: stas
      If the dam breaks in the Mingechevir region near Shamkhor, the Azerbaijanis and Turks will not help!

      And the Armenians are also not good at it.
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 19: 54
        +1
        Two okay, the water flow will go to Baku, and the Armenians are higher in the Ararat valley, beyond Lake Sevan!
    4. Grits
      Grits 7 October 2020 01: 36
      +1
      Quote: stas
      If the dam breaks in the Mingechevir region near Shamkhor, the Azerbaijanis and Turks will not help!

      Does Armenia have a tactical nuclear charge?
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 18: 58
    35
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Azerbaijan is returning its 7 regions, recognized by the UN. I thought the Armenians in 30 years built concrete pillboxes like on the Mannerheim line and shelters for equipment, and judging by the footage from their places on the front line, there are bugs made of cinder blocks with a thin layer of earth and holes dug in the ground for equipment instead of shelters. And the armament of the Armenians is decades behind the Azerbaijanis. What the Armenians have been doing for 30 years is absolutely not clear.

    It is also quite incomprehensible why they did not mask the equipment, why they did not create a network of underground communications as in Vietnam or Afghanistan, why the air defense did not work normally, a shame, the working air defense complex is struck at an angle of 70 degrees by a lousy UAV, this is what level of carelessness is needed then why do not they use OTRK for military purposes in the deep rear of the enemy, where is the aviation itself, where are sabotage groups thrown into the rear and having fun on communications? Well, okay Azerbaijan. These never knew how to fight. For a week of battles, spend ammunition and drones as to capture the whole of Armenia, and they can take 3 villages. Or having a bunch of MLRS and OTRK spend them on the city ... Here the enemy will suffer damage from the fact that you shoot around the city. Finish off 2.5 civilians, knock out glass to someone at home, and pay for a rocket of money as for 3 such houses. This is not a weapon for that! OTRK to defeat air defense / missile defense before an attack, compact depots, airfields, command posts, radar stations, enemy launchers, critical infrastructure! Not an electrical substation in a peaceful city, from which you have no harm, but from its destruction, no benefit! But these are Azerbaijanis, these are damn well-known wars of light without fear, reproach and brains. But from the Armenians themselves, I expected more than the descent into the toilet of all the equipment in the conflict zone and WHOLE abandoned during the retreat !!! tanks, equipment and weapons depots. The guys relaxed, or went nuts with fear. That it was so difficult to pour a can of gasoline on everything before leaving or to put a couple of minutes? You yourself then with this weapon ... Damn warriors. Both sides.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 09
      11
      Quote: oleg123219307
      As well as it is quite incomprehensible why they did not mask the equipment, why they did not create a network of underground communications like in Vietnam or Afghanistan, why the air defense did not work normally

      Look who is at the head of the National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia. ... Argishti Kyaramyan, he is 29 years old, from June 2018 - until February 26, 2019, he worked at the State Revenue Committee of the Republic of Armenia, holding the position of the head of the department for detecting violations. All the old cadres were dismissed, and the "young" came to replace them, who have no idea about the army and the security of the state. Serdyukov No. 2.
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 20: 25
        10
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: oleg123219307
        As well as it is quite incomprehensible why they did not mask the equipment, why they did not create a network of underground communications like in Vietnam or Afghanistan, why the air defense did not work normally

        Look who is at the head of the National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia. ... Argishti Kyaramyan, he is 29 years old, from June 2018 - until February 26, 2019, he worked at the State Revenue Committee of the Republic of Armenia, holding the position of the head of the department for detecting violations. All the old cadres were dismissed, and the "young" came to replace them, who have no idea about the army and the security of the state. Serdyukov No. 2.

        Well, the goal of Mr. Pashiyan was to torpedo the peace process, and then slowly and bloody to lose, prompting us to intervene, or if we turn out to be smarter and do not go in for spoiling our reputation. A person works out his salary in the State Department, that's why the staff is apparently so ...
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 6 October 2020 20: 52
      -3
      Quote: oleg123219307
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Azerbaijan is returning its 7 regions, recognized by the UN. I thought the Armenians in 30 years built concrete pillboxes like on the Mannerheim line and shelters for equipment, and judging by the footage from their places on the front line, there are bugs made of cinder blocks with a thin layer of earth and holes dug in the ground for equipment instead of shelters. And the armament of the Armenians is decades behind the Azerbaijanis. What the Armenians have been doing for 30 years is absolutely not clear.

      It is also quite incomprehensible why they did not mask the equipment, why they did not create a network of underground communications as in Vietnam or Afghanistan, why the air defense did not work normally, a shame, the working air defense complex is struck at an angle of 70 degrees by a lousy UAV, this is what level of carelessness is needed then why do not they use OTRK for military purposes in the deep rear of the enemy, where is the aviation itself, where are sabotage groups thrown into the rear and having fun on communications? Well, okay Azerbaijan. These never knew how to fight. For a week of battles, spend ammunition and drones as to capture the whole of Armenia, and they can take 3 villages. Or having a bunch of MLRS and OTRK spend them on the city ... Here the enemy will suffer damage from the fact that you shoot around the city. Finish off 2.5 civilians, knock out glass to someone at home, and pay for a rocket of money as for 3 such houses. This is not a weapon for that! OTRK to defeat air defense / missile defense before an attack, compact depots, airfields, command posts, radar stations, enemy launchers, critical infrastructure! Not an electrical substation in a peaceful city, from which you have no harm, but from its destruction, no benefit! But these are Azerbaijanis, these are damn well-known wars of light without fear, reproach and brains. But from the Armenians themselves, I expected more than the descent into the toilet of all the equipment in the conflict zone and WHOLE abandoned during the retreat !!! tanks, equipment and weapons depots. The guys relaxed, or went nuts with fear. That it was so difficult to pour a can of gasoline on everything before leaving or to put a couple of minutes? You yourself then with this weapon ... Damn warriors. Both sides.

      Yes, the NKR and Armenian Armed Forces are not the remnants of the 4th OA of the ZKVO of the USSR Armed Forces, this is already something pseudo-Western, there are no officers and generals left in the ranks from the last war ...
      As soon as the first Azerbaijani units and subunits begin to fall into the "boilers", this is a signal for the Armed Forces of Turkey and Azerbaijan that it is time to "round off" otherwise the "North Wind" may intensify ...
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 21: 02
        +5
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Yes, the NKR and Armenian Armed Forces are not the remnants of the 4th OA of the ZKVO of the USSR Armed Forces, this is already something pseudo-Western, there are no officers and generals left in the ranks from the last war ...
        As soon as the first Azerbaijani units and subunits begin to fall into the "boilers", this is a signal for the Armed Forces of Turkey and Azerbaijan that it is time to "round off" otherwise the "North Wind" may intensify ...

        I don't think they will. Would like to blow that wind would have blown. But they danced too zealously in Armenia, shouting about "Russian occupants" ... While their prime minister was in power, these comrades would deal with their problems themselves.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 21: 09
          +2
          Quote: oleg123219307
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Yes, the NKR and Armenian Armed Forces are not the remnants of the 4th OA of the ZKVO of the USSR Armed Forces, this is already something pseudo-Western, there are no officers and generals left in the ranks from the last war ...
          As soon as the first Azerbaijani units and subunits begin to fall into the "boilers", this is a signal for the Armed Forces of Turkey and Azerbaijan that it is time to "round off" otherwise the "North Wind" may intensify ...

          I don't think they will. Would like to blow that wind would have blown. But they danced too zealously in Armenia, shouting about "Russian occupants" ... While their prime minister was in power, these comrades would deal with their problems themselves.

          At the moment, nothing threatens the existence of Armenia itself. The battles are being fought within the NKR and 7 occupied regions of Azerbaijan. Aliyev, announcing the de-occupation of the NKR and 7 districts of Azerbaijan, announced Azerbaijan's non-observance of the Bishkek Memorandum ... however, there is no official recognition of withdrawal from it either, so the outcome of the battles is not clear for the Azeris themselves, but the limitation of the supply of military and military equipment by They may have run into the Russian Federation, although Azerbaijan has both the Palanez MLRS and trucks from the Republic of Belarus ...
      2. Owls 79
        Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 24
        -5
        The Armenian army and officers are armed and trained on the model of the USSR and Russia. And the generals are just the same veterans of the last war. This is its advantage, and where it may be a disadvantage. It is necessary to learn war from everyone, including enemies too.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 21: 26
          +4
          Quote: Owl 79
          And the generals are just the same veterans of the last war.

          Come on, how old are they?
        2. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 22: 53
          +3
          Quote: Owl 79
          The Armenian army and officers are armed and trained on the model of the USSR and Russia. And the generals are just the same veterans of the last war. This is its advantage, and where it may be a disadvantage. It is necessary to learn war from everyone, including enemies too.

          Hard to believe. Those guys who were trained under the USSR would not have fought so ineptly ...
          1. Florian geyer
            Florian geyer 7 October 2020 00: 59
            0
            So mediocre? With the forces of 3 motorized rifle regiments, you also need to be able to hold back the offensive of 2 corps for a week or more
            1. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 01: 14
              +1
              Quote: Florian Geyer
              So mediocre? With the forces of 3 motorized rifle regiments, you also need to be able to hold back the offensive of 2 corps for a week or more

              With 30 years of preparation, you can't even open shelters for technology? So contain that capital city in ruins? This is in the presence of modern, including high-precision weapons and air defense systems? In a week of war, not to inflict a single blow on the enemy on significant strategic targets in the rear in return? Not even a single serious sabotage operation on communications? Hmm ...
              1. Florian geyer
                Florian geyer 7 October 2020 10: 39
                0
                These were positions in the foreground, in the recently occupied territories (in this Azerbaijan is right - the Armenians occupied these territories a couple of years ago). What they have there with the main defense on the territory of the NKR itself has not yet been shown to us.

                How to strike? Even the NKR army is not fully deployed yet. So far, a small covering force, in front of the line of defense, I hold back the offensive and cover the mobilization and deployment of the main forces of the NKR army. If you are talking about RAV strikes, strikes on objects in the rear will not have a military effect in this case, and the terrorist effect will not bring much benefit.

                They carry out sabotage operations. They have special forces in the area of ​​the contact line (by the way, not bad), ambushes, raids, etc. are periodically set up with significant losses among the Azerbaijanis (for example, a platoon was shot, periodically undermining equipment)
    3. Bully
      Bully 6 October 2020 22: 04
      -2
      Not an electrical substation in a peaceful city, from which you have no harm, but from its destruction, no benefit

      You will be very surprised, but if you drop five of the nodal substations, there will be a severe systemic accident and Azerbaijan will plunge into darkness for a long time. This means: refineries, industrial enterprises, water supply systems, treatment facilities, heat supply, etc. will not work. That is, the rear will not work. Iskander is ideal for this task, the result is achieved quickly and efficiently.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 6 October 2020 22: 50
        +1
        Are you sure that the Armenians can launch the Iskander themselves?
        I doubt it so much ...
      2. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 22: 55
        0
        Quote: Bully
        You will be very surprised, but if you drop five of the nodal substations, there will be a severe systemic accident and Azerbaijan will plunge into darkness for a long time. This means: refineries, industrial enterprises, water supply systems, treatment facilities, heat supply, etc. will not work. That is, the rear will not work. Iskander is ideal for this task, the result is achieved quickly and efficiently.

        AND? Where are these blows? So far we have seen only MLRS for residential buildings. I spoke about the substation in Stepanokert. There are no refineries or major industrial enterprises. Strange behavior, given the fact that there are no important strategic objects in the city, and you yourself plan to liberate it. We'll have to rebuild it ourselves ...
        1. Bully
          Bully 7 October 2020 08: 17
          0
          AND? Where are these blows?

          Apparently, there was no go-ahead ...
          1. Oleg123219307
            Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 08: 49
            0
            Quote: Bully
            AND? Where are these blows?

            Apparently, there was no go-ahead ...

            To hit the airfield from the MLRS to the maximum range with an accuracy of plus or minus a tram stop, and as many as 3 missiles, the go-ahead means was ... This is called the disorganization of operational control, or if in Russian - a mess.
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 6 October 2020 19: 10
    -1
    Well, maybe on the second line of defense, their affairs are better set, we'll see.
    1. halpat
      halpat 6 October 2020 19: 21
      +6
      Is she there? second line
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 6 October 2020 19: 40
        -1
        They claim that there is also much better organized.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 20: 53
          +5
          Quote: Airdefense
          They claim that there is also much better organized.

          do you mean the 102nd WB of the RF Armed Forces?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 10
        +4
        Quote: Halpat
        Is she there? second line

        It is highly doubtful, they ran to the rallies, but did not think about defense.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 6 October 2020 21: 51
        0
        Quote: Halpat
        Is she there? second line

        Naturally - in the mountains. Where it should be. And the main one. Stronghold.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 34
    0
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    What Armenians have been doing for 30 years is definitely not clear

    The Armenians in Armenia armed themselves for all 30 years, and the Armenians from Karabakh apparently hoped for Armenia, plus the entire population of Karabakh is 150 thousand, respectively, and the army of Karabakh is small and, more simply, does not have modern weapons.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 6 October 2020 21: 45
      0
      Yes, in Karabakh, they did not even bother with the construction of reinforced concrete pillboxes.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 56
        11
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Yes, in Karabakh, they did not even bother with the construction of reinforced concrete pillboxes.

        Why build bunkers, it's better to lay asphalt in Russia, they pay more)
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 21: 35
    +2
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Azerbaijan is returning its 7 regions, recognized by the UN. I thought the Armenians in 30 years built concrete pillboxes like on the Mannerheim line and underground shelters for equipment, and judging by the footage from their places on the front line, there are bedbugs made of cinder blocks with a thin layer of earth and holes dug in the ground for equipment instead of shelters. No cover from the threat from above, not even a primitive camouflage - all the equipment is in plain sight and the drones crack them like nuts for breakfast. And the armament of the Armenians is decades behind the Azerbaijanis. What the Armenians have been doing for 30 years is absolutely not clear.

    Armenians are actively involved in construction in the Russian Federation ..
    Moreover, it is very tough for the natives
  • genisis
    genisis 6 October 2020 22: 32
    0
    Azerbaijan is returning its 7 regions, recognized by the UN.

    Are you familiar with the plan of the operation of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan? Are you sure that Azerbaijan wants to liberate only 7 regions?
    In all four resolutions you are referring to, the main thing is a sustainable ceasefire. Nowhere in them is there a word that Azerbaijan can hammer MLRS in the cities of Artsakh, use members of terrorist organizations to kill soldiers of the Artsakh Defense Army, who, by the way, according to the same resolutions, are citizens of the same Azerbaijan.
    Your sarcasm about the positions and methods of conducting military operations of the Armenian military is breaking up against reality.
    So far, 2 army corps of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan have been fighting nonstop for the 9th day in the first line of the Artsakh defense, losing large numbers of people and equipment. During this time, we managed to drive a wedge in one place for 4 km., In another a little more than 10 km.
    How can Armenian bullets, shells, mines and grenades lag behind Azerbaijani bullets by decades?
    1. Lord
      Lord 7 October 2020 05: 06
      0
      This speaks of the weakness of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and not the strength of the Armed Forces of Armenia
  • Megatron
    Megatron 6 October 2020 22: 56
    +1
    Yes, they have no money, beggars are like church mice, and corruption is no less than ours.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 23: 01
    0
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    UN

    Yes, there was once such an organization
  • Anton Sverlov
    Anton Sverlov 7 October 2020 00: 13
    0
    Bought ourselves on the cheap "European values"
  • Florian geyer
    Florian geyer 7 October 2020 00: 44
    0
    Yes, they have about the same weapons
  • Victor67
    Victor67 7 October 2020 05: 54
    -1
    I mean, it's not clear? The roads were built in Russia, now all road construction in the central part of Russia is controlled by the Armenians. Agree, the quality of the road surface has increased!
  • 73bor
    73bor 7 October 2020 13: 06
    0
    The Armenians just gathered in NATO and there they don't need powerful armed forces for membership, so they paid the price!
  • Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 19: 00
    +1
    On the other hand, monuments to fascists are being erected in Armenia at least two, I know.
    1. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 19: 17
      +3
      In fact, you are the same as the Armenian women, but there is a strategy.
  • Maz
    Maz 6 October 2020 23: 02
    +2

    Very aptly drawn.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 7 October 2020 01: 57
    0
    Better eat hot, and do not drink denatured alcohol.
  • Tamparu
    Tamparu 6 October 2020 18: 33
    21
    Everyone should be on the side of the truth. There is an occupier and there is a victim of the occupation. Justice is on the side of Azerbaijan. Countries, including Russia, need to be on the side of justice.

    .... Justice is on the side of Syria. Countries, including Turkey, need to be on the side of justice ....
    Point. hi
    1. Alena-Baku
      Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 18: 40
      -21 qualifying.
      I mean, you agree that the occupant is on the side of Armenia)))))
      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 6 October 2020 18: 54
        16
        Alena-Baku
        I mean, you agree that the occupant is on the side of Armenia)))))
        Are you sure that the occupier is Armenia? Something is not visible that the residents of the NGOs greeted their "liberators" with flowers.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 6 October 2020 19: 17
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Alena-Baku
          I mean, you agree that the occupant is on the side of Armenia)))))
          Are you sure that the occupier is Armenia? Something is not visible that the residents of the NGOs greeted their "liberators" with flowers.

          Do you think that Serbs will be greeted with flowers in Kosovo if they come? And Kosovo is Serbia
          1. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 6 October 2020 19: 24
            11
            It is not entirely correct to compare Kosovo and NGOs. The NPO, in fact, never belonged to Azerbaijan, but became a part of it only thanks to joining the USSR as an introductory bonus. But Kosovo has never been Albanian. More precisely, it became it thanks to the increased settlement of this region by Albanian thugs.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 12
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Something is not visible that the residents of the NGOs greeted their "liberators" with flowers.

          So, in those seven districts, not a single Azerbaijani remained, there is no one to meet.
        3. RUSS
          RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 39
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Alena-Baku
          I mean, you agree that the occupant is on the side of Armenia)))))
          Are you sure that the occupier is Armenia? Something is not visible that the residents of the NGOs greeted their "liberators" with flowers.

          Not a single country recognized Karabakh, neither does Armenia recognize the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh, not only did the Armenians wrest Karabakh from Azerbaijan, they also occupied the adjoining regions, look at the map, almost a third of Azerbaijan's territory is occupied.
        4. Grits
          Grits 7 October 2020 06: 26
          0
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Something is not visible that the residents of the NGOs greeted their "liberators" with flowers.

          The population is not necessary for Azerbaijan. They need to be fed. They need territory. Like khokh_lam in Donbass
      2. Tamparu
        Tamparu 6 October 2020 19: 07
        11
        I am for the fact that Turkey's actions on one and the same situation were identical. If it demands justice for Azerbaijan, then it should behave in a similar way regarding its actions on Syria, that is, withdraw all its troops from this territory.
        Sincerely, hi
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 45
          0
          Quote: TampaRU
          Azerbaijan, then it should behave in a similar way regarding its actions in Syria, that is, withdraw all its troops from this territory.

          Turkey can also show us, reminding us of the withdrawal of troops from South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea.
          Everyone has their own truth and, as time has shown, right.
      3. Sergey Matveev
        Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 36
        11
        Quote: Alena-Baku
        I mean, you agree that the occupier is on the side of Armenia

        For example, I personally agree that Azerbaijan started the war with the support of Turkey. yes
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 01: 49
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Matveev
          For example, I personally agree that Azerbaijan started the war with the support of Turkey.

          And the Armenians are not guilty?
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 October 2020 18: 35
    +6
    Interestingly, the Turks dance.
    The angry cop had his say.
    Further, the next advance of the Azerbaijani army.
    The next act, the appearance of a good cop on the stage.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 October 2020 18: 39
      16
      Strictly speaking, Russia also considers these lands to be Azerbaijani.
    2. Owls 79
      Owls 79 6 October 2020 18: 44
      +2
      Why Turks? Armenians fight only with Turks and Azerbaijanis. Armenians have no problems with Turks as well as with Muslims. For example, relations with the Arabs are quite normal. Azerbaijani propaganda.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 6 October 2020 18: 58
        +6
        This is figurative.
        After all.
        Turks, Azerbaijanis and, by the way, the Kyrgyz are part of the group of Turkic peoples
        1. Owls 79
          Owls 79 6 October 2020 19: 06
          +4
          Turks are a nationality. The Turks are an ethnos. The Slavs are an ethnos. Slovaks, Slovenes are nationalities.
          All that Armenians want to know about Tatars, Bashkirs, Kazakhs and Uzbeks is that everyone there is healthy and everyone is happy. The rest does not interest them.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 6 October 2020 22: 03
          +1
          Quote: Livonetc
          Turks, Azerbaijanis

          There is also a question of religion, the Turks are Sunnis, the Azerbajans are Shiites, to put it mildly, both of these currents do not love each other, but the Turks and Azerbaijanis have mutual love. Unclear......
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 6 October 2020 19: 19
        +5
        Quote: Owl 79
        Why Turks? Armenians fight only with Turks and Azerbaijanis. Armenians have no problems with Turks as well as with Muslims. For example, relations with the Arabs are quite normal. Azerbaijani propaganda.

        Arabs - long ago became Turks? belay And so, the Turks and Azerbaijanis are exactly the Turks.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 18
          +3
          Quote: Doliva63
          Arabs - long ago became Turks? And so, the Turks and Azerbaijanis are exactly the Turks.

          Okay, let's see who these "Turks" are - the largest number of modern Turks are Turks. According to statistics, this is 43% of all Turkic-speaking peoples or 70 million people. Next are Azerbaijanis - 15% or 25 million people. Slightly fewer Uzbeks - 23,5 million (14%), after - Kazakhs - 12 million (7%), Uighurs - 10 million (6%), Turkmens - 6 million (4%), Tatars - 5,5 million (3 %), Kyrgyz - 3,5 million (2%). Subsequent nationalities make up 1%: Bashkirs, Kashkays and Chuvashs - on average 1,5 million.Others are less than 1%: Karakalpaks (700 thousand), Afshars (600 thousand), Yakuts (480 thousand), Kumyks (400 thousand), Karachais ( 350 thousand), Tuvans (300 thousand), Gagauz (180 thousand), Balkars (115 thousand), Nogais (110 thousand), Khakass (75 thousand), Altai (70 thousand).
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 6 October 2020 20: 29
            +2
            I, like, know, thanks. This comrade, to whom I answered, is not in the know, obviously.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 6 October 2020 22: 19
              0
              Quote: Doliva63
              I, like, know, thanks. This comrade, to whom I answered, is not in the know, obviously.

              I understood this, it just turned out to impose my own on your comment.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 7 October 2020 20: 18
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Doliva63
                I, like, know, thanks. This comrade, to whom I answered, is not in the know, obviously.

                I understood this, it just turned out to impose my own on your comment.

                Well, then I got it wrong hi
          2. Artavazdych
            Artavazdych 6 October 2020 21: 44
            +1
            The devil is in the details))))
            More than 70% of the total population of Turkic speakers in Crimea, Tatarstan, Bashkiria ...
          3. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 7 October 2020 01: 37
            0
            good laughing Teleuts, Teleuts are forgotten. )))
        2. Owls 79
          Owls 79 6 October 2020 20: 39
          0
          I did not write that the Arabs are Turks. I just noted that Azerbaijani propaganda ascribes enmity to the Turks and Muslims to the Armenians. He cited the Arabs as an example as Muslims.
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 50
        +1
        Quote: Owl 79
        Why Turks? Armenians fight only with Turks and Azerbaijanis. Armenians have no problems with Turks as well as with Muslims.

        Azerbadzhans and Turks are essentially one people, both belong to the Turks.
        Quote: Owl 79
        For example, relations with the Arabs are quite normal.

        Now yes, but in the 7th century the Arabs conquered Armenia and destroyed the Armenians not much less than the Turks later.
  • demo
    demo 6 October 2020 18: 35
    21
    Everyone should be on the side of the truth. There is an occupier and there is a victim of the occupation. Justice is on the side of Azerbaijan. Countries, including Russia, need to be on the side of justice.
    And what, excuse me, dear Mevlut Cavusoglu, is the Turkish army doing on the territory of sovereign Syria?
    By the way, the Turkish troops are not occupiers, on a par with the American ones.
    And what kind of justice are we talking about when your current president organized a business for his son in the form of pumping oil from the bowels of Syria and selling it to the West.
    1. Roman1970_1
      Roman1970_1 6 October 2020 18: 46
      -10 qualifying.
      What is the oil in Syria?
      In good times, all Syrian oil is 30 lamas a year.
      This is good for a small family business, but for the country it is nothing.
      I am not for Erdogan, I am against him.
      It's just that Syrian oil is not the cause of Syrian troubles
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 6 October 2020 18: 35
    +5
    Everyone should be on the side of the truth. There is an occupier and there is a victim of the occupation.

    Countries, including Russia, need to be on the side of justice.
    With your lips, Cavusoglu would drink honey ... only in all regions of the world and not only in the Caucasus.
    1. Sergey Matveev
      Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 31
      15
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      With your lips Cavusoglu would drink honey

      Cavusoglu has no faith, as well as Erdogan. Those are still subchikas.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 7 October 2020 01: 34
        +2
        Of course not, he speaks of justice and world law when it suits him, he does not see his lawlessness.
  • Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 18: 36
    -17 qualifying.
    Look at this video before writing comments
    https://youtu.be/Zey09DjXsL0
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 6 October 2020 18: 39
      +6
      And what's there? The link is not working.
      1. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 18: 55
        -13 qualifying.
        [quote = Alena-Baku] Look at this video before writing comments
        https://youtu.be/Zey09DjXsL0
      2. Sergey Matveev
        Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 29
        12
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        And what's there?

        Believe me, there is nothing interesting in that video, not at all.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 18: 43
      +5
      Quote: Alena-Baku
      Look at this video before writing comments

      Looked and what? Another propaganda video
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 6 October 2020 18: 53
        10
        Yes, let the Azeri think if you put Iraq, Syria and Cyprus in the video, it's not the same. It's just that Azeris are screaming about justice when it comes to Karabakh and hinting at the illegality of the annexation of Crimea. But where lawlessness raises Turkey, they are ready to apologize but support the Turks.
        1. ANB
          ANB 6 October 2020 21: 02
          +2
          ... It's just that the Azeris are screaming about justice when it comes to Karabakh and hinting at the illegality of the annexation of Crimea.

          Well, I heard "Karabakhnash" back in 1988. But for some reason Armenia does not recognize Crimea as Russian. So there is nothing to blame on Azerbaijan .......
          In general, Karabakh was transferred to Russia by Iran under a peace treaty.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 6 October 2020 22: 43
            +1
            Quote: ANB
            In general, Karabakh was transferred to Russia by Iran under a peace treaty.

            Who will remember this now ....?
            1. ANB
              ANB 6 October 2020 23: 06
              +1
              ... Who will remember this now ....?

              So it is necessary to recall. Both sides. And then something broke.
          2. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 7 October 2020 01: 32
            +1
            It's just that the Azeris are screaming about justice when it comes to Karabakh and hinting at the illegality of the annexation of Crimea.

            Well, I heard "Karabakhnash" back in 1988. But for some reason Armenia does not recognize Crimea as Russian. So there is nothing to blame on Azerbaijan .......
            In general, Karabakh was transferred to Russia by Iran under a peace treaty.


            There were two sentences in my comment.
            Armenia and Karabakh did not recognize if we talk about the support of Crimea. Nobody blames Azerbaijan when he tries to return what he considers to be his own and is recognized by the world community in any way. They blame the majority of Azerbaijanis who shout North of Syria, the Turks correctly occupied, it is correct that the Turks in Iraq, the northern part of Cyprus is the "North Cyprus Turkish Republic. Besides, if you look at the article, it is not someone but Cavusoglu, the occupational minister about justice and law is crucified ...
      2. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 18: 56
        -13 qualifying.
        and where is the propaganda?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 19: 00
          +2
          Quote: Alena-Baku
          and where is the propaganda?

          From start to finish.
          When they try to blow something into your ears, this is propaganda
          1. Alena-Baku
            Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 19: 14
            -11 qualifying.
            I come from Baku, I don't need to blow in my ears, I saw the atrocities of Armenians with my eyes. And now I see how on the site Armenians under the nicknames of Russians are hurling atomic bombs.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 6 October 2020 19: 17
              10
              Quote: Alena-Baku
              I come from Baku, I don't need to blow in my ears,

              So it's blowing in my ears. Video in Russian
              atomic bombs are thrown.

              At least one flew?
              1. Alena-Baku
                Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 20: 04
                -1
                here I am and do not listen to this, not Armenians, not Azerbaijanis, so that later in Russian I would not blow in my ears about the poor Armenians. And on account of the fact that it did not fly just because the Russian sits on the button, and I have to pray so that the Armenians do not reach the button.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 6 October 2020 20: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: Alena-Baku
                  And at the expense of the fact that it did not fly just because the Russian sits on the button, but many

                  Well, why should we waste bombs on you?
                  1. Alena-Baku
                    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 21: 03
                    -1
                    who do you mean to us?
                2. ANB
                  ANB 6 October 2020 23: 10
                  0
                  ... here I am and do not listen to this, not Armenians, not Azerbaijanis,

                  And we don't listen. And it seems like Russia does not threaten anyone, but the Armenians do not have an atomic bomb.
              2. Grits
                Grits 7 October 2020 06: 36
                0
                Quote: Lipchanin
                At least one flew?

                No, I didn't. Because, as Azerbaijanis assure, the Armenians have old Soviet weapons. She a priori cannot fly. Well ... even if the old bomb did fly, it fell and did not explode ... laughing
            2. stas
              stas 6 October 2020 19: 21
              12
              No need to lie, the Azerbaijanis were the first to attack the Armenians in Baku, then the Russian soldiers, then they got a hat and shut up!
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              2. Alena-Baku
                Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 20: 23
                0
                Here you can see who first started
                https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3425803377483800&id=100001625140672
              3. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 6 October 2020 20: 56
                +2
                Quote: stas
                Azerbaijanis were the first to attack Armenians in Baku

                "Plato is my friend but the truth is dearer!" I'm not talking about who attacked whom first in Baku ... most likely, Azerbaijanis attacked Armenians ... I'll just tell you what I remember from those 80s ... Do you know that in Baku the main striking force of the pogromists were ERAZY? That is, "Yerevan Azerbaijanis" ...! That is, it turns out that "ahead" was the pogrom of Azerbaijanis in Yerevan! As a result, many Azerbaijani refugees from Yerevan accumulated in Baku ... (who survived ...) These were extremely embittered people whose situation was aggravated by the fact that they did not receive sufficient assistance from the Baku authorities ... (in Baku they became eraz ...) In general, there were a lot of violent, so the glove compartment happened!
                1. stas
                  stas 6 October 2020 21: 11
                  +6
                  At that moment I served there, and saw everything with my own eyes and hands, how the Azerbaijanis tried to prevent the paratroopers from rescuing the Armenians from the Kala airfield in Baku and Sumgait.
                  You do not know, do not meddle with your truth!
                  1. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 6 October 2020 23: 18
                    0
                    Be careful when cornering, "eyewitness"! This is not my truth, not true! First, this is what some newspapers wrote at the time! Secondly, you wrote such a chaotic bunch that I couldn't understand it without a translator!
                  2. Alena-Baku
                    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 23: 38
                    0
                    you can write what you want, you know what will not be checked, I worked in Armenia and saw how Azerbaijani children were slaughtered and Zori balanyan described it in his book. Refugees Azerbaijanis who survived as Armenians with security on airplanes with a luxury class did not escape, but this is logic.
            3. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 6 October 2020 19: 38
              +7
              Alena-Baku "And now I see how on the website the Armenians under the nicknames of Russians are hurling atomic bombs."
              Alena and your name is not Mamed by any chance?)))
              1. Alena-Baku
                Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 20: 07
                0
                For you Zeynab,))))
            4. Nadrub
              Nadrub 6 October 2020 20: 23
              +6
              Are you talking from baku?
              And where were you when in the early 90s they beat and threw out the windows of Armenians? And broke into the apartments of Jews and Russians trashing them in a row? Have you seen Sumgayit with your own eyes? I could tell a lot about what really happened in Baku ...
              1. Alena-Baku
                Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 20: 35
                -6
                Seriously, where do hundreds of thousands of Russians, tens of thousands of Jews and Armenians come from in Baku? I have seen a lot of good and bad with my own eyes and I would advise you not to lie. Tell me what and where you saw.
                1. stas
                  stas 6 October 2020 21: 02
                  +2
                  Why are you lying like a gypsy. Russians, Jews and Armenians left Baku long ago, only the weak remained!
                  1. Alena-Baku
                    Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 21: 10
                    -2
                    I myself am Russian and thank God the borders are open, many come here and see and who does not have the opportunity to come, ask those who were. And what about you, let the administrators take adequate measures, you are a hamlo and a provacist, for me there is not enough Stalin for people like you.
                    1. stas
                      stas 6 October 2020 21: 14
                      +1
                      Don't lie like a gypsy, and you behave like a gypsy alarmist. For you, an Armenian is needed!
                2. ANB
                  ANB 6 October 2020 23: 14
                  0
                  ... seriously, but where did hundreds of thousands of Russians, tens of thousands of Jews and Armenians come from in Baku?

                  Yes, somehow under the USSR and earlier in Baku, it was with the Azerbaijanis that I was more strained. International city. Was. :(
            5. Artavazdych
              Artavazdych 6 October 2020 21: 49
              0
              Please tell us about the atrocities of Armenians in Baku laughing
        2. Arhat
          Arhat 6 October 2020 22: 11
          0
          Quote: Alena-Baku
          and where is the propaganda?

          In the video, for some reason, everything is simplified to disgrace, but what about the pogroms? it all started with them, right? You mentioned the pogroms of the Azerbaijanis by the Armenians .... but don't you remind me what happened there shortly before that? Press for justice, but have not heard of it.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 21
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Looked and what? Another propaganda video

        Definitely, so we will write comments, but the videos will wait.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 20: 38
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Definitely, so we will write comments, but the videos will wait.

          Yes, there is enough to look at it and everything is immediately clear
    3. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 6 October 2020 18: 48
      +1
      Alena would say it Aliyev, Trump or the President of Liberia is one thing, but Cavusoglu is quite another.
  • Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 6 October 2020 18: 39
    20
    About the occupiers, this is true. How many years has Constantinople been occupied?
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 6 October 2020 19: 25
      +3
      Quote: Gunter Preen
      About the occupiers, this is true. How many years has Constantinople been occupied?

      And Indian America?
    2. Xenofont
      Xenofont 6 October 2020 19: 47
      +1
      567 years of occupation could be celebrated in May.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 6 October 2020 18: 39
    +2
    At the same time, Cavusoglu transparently hinted that it was time for Moscow to stop supporting Yerevan:

    Hint to your wife in bed.
    At the same time, Cavusoglu transparently hinted that it was time for Moscow to stop supporting Yerevan:

    So start with yourself, stop supporting the aggressor
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 23
      +1
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Hint to your wife in bed.
      At the same time, Cavusoglu transparently hinted that it was time for Moscow to stop supporting Yerevan:

      So start with yourself, stop supporting the aggressor

      Moscow itself can tell anyone you want without a hint. Teaching Moscow is dangerous to health.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 6 October 2020 20: 40
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Teaching Moscow is dangerous to health.

        At least once every 100 years they tried to teach and the study ended at their home
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 October 2020 18: 43
    +8
    Yes, it was said long ago “don’t trust the Turk”! Their “truth” cost the pilot of our military plane the life! The Lord Himself is destined for us to be with the Turks on different sides of good and evil! And, the Karabakh people (sorry) wasted time to create a high-quality defense system, especially the complete absence of air defense as a complex defense system. ...
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 6 October 2020 18: 45
    +7
    Erdo and Aliyev are two goggle-eyed Fuhrer. Petty politicians, bloody cannibals.
    1. Sergey Matveev
      Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 26
      11
      Quote: 7,62x54
      bloody cannibals

      Especially undersultan with his painful desire to revive the empire.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 October 2020 18: 48
    +7
    It is difficult to take a specific side. There are tough questions to both those and others ..... there are NO questions to the arsonists, they should be BEATED, without any doubt!
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 18: 54
    +2
    Believe it or not: today, at lunchtime, waiting for the end of customs procedures, I stuck in online backgammon ... one of the rivals was a major (?)
    Under the Az. Flag ... 1,5 hours, several parties, hacked to death ...
    ..easy...)))
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 19: 02
      +1
      Quote: The Siberian Barber
      today, at lunchtime,

      Such a good lunch for an hour and a half laughing
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 19: 55
        0
        )))
        Well, my lunch can go on for a very long time))
        I just drew attention to a man in uniform and under a flag))
        Without fantasies .. it became interesting to myself)))
        Unfortunately, the mind was not enough, at least, to take a photo of the screen
        War ... her mother .. (
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 20: 42
          +1
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          Unfortunately, the mind was not enough, at least, to take a photo of the screen
          War ... her mother .. (

          Yes, God bless him with a photo
          Gentlemen take their word for it))))
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 20: 51
            +1
            laughing drinks
            ... and here, the map flooded (s) laughing
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 6 October 2020 21: 00
              0
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              ... and here, the map flooded (s)

              Cool joke good drinks
              1. The Siberian barber
                The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 21: 23
                0
                Have a nice evening!)
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 October 2020 20: 25
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Such a good lunch for an hour and a half

        Thank you, I just slept until 19.00, had supper with a homemade borscht, woke up in a good mood, wrote comments, and after 35 minutes I'm finishing my work, I'll go get some sleep.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 20: 43
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          in 35 minutes I finish work, I will go to fill up.

          And I'm just going to dinner laughing
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 6 October 2020 19: 28
      +1
      That's how they serve. Some on the other side of the footcloths are in the warehouse, others on this side. Stars fall on shoulder straps, new titles.
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 6 October 2020 18: 57
    +6

    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in an interview with the Turkish TV channel TRT Haber that Ankara is ready, together with the Russian Federation, to contribute to the settlement of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    So the Turks started talking about the negotiations again ... And the offensive to inflate the stakes before the negotiations.
    1. Sergey Matveev
      Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 24
      15
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      So the Turks started talking about negotiations again

      It means that not everything is so good with Azerbaijan in this war. If everything went well for them, no one would talk about negotiations, even possible ones.
  • AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 6 October 2020 18: 58
    +3
    Blitz-krieg for Azerbaijan failed, as Erdogan expected. Now he is driving barmaleevs to help Aliyev, and time is now working against him.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 19: 22
      +4
      "Do you see a gopher in the field?
      No.
      And he is. "
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 October 2020 19: 24
      +1
      "Blitz-krieg failed for Azerbaijan" Yes, and it never happened - the initial task of Azerbaijan to exhaust all air defense and troops of Karabakh to the maximum using artillery and attack drones - and they successfully achieved their goal.
      1. Sergey Matveev
        Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 22
        15
        Quote: Vadim237
        and they successfully achieved their goal

        Until they achieved nothing at all
    3. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 22: 18
      +1
      Dastardly and unsubstantiated lies and you are deliberately driving it, in a shameless way.
      https://haqqin.az/news/191052 Как вам вот такое?
      1. Sergey Matveev
        Sergey Matveev 7 October 2020 01: 21
        15
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        Dastardly and unsubstantiated lies and you are deliberately driving it, in a shameless way.
        https://haqqin.az/news/191052 Как вам вот такое?

        And how do you like this: The head of the SVR of Russia announced the transfer of Jabhat al-Nusra militants to the Transcaucasus. https://topwar.ru/175838-glava-svr-rossii-zajavil-o-perebroske-v-zakavkaze-boevikov-dzhebhat-an-nusry.html
        And we, in any case I, will believe the head of the SVR of Russia, and not your link.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 6 October 2020 19: 00
    +3
    Authors-like articles will not be prevented by a MAP of the area of ​​action. With "arrows" - well, you know, instead of an incomprehensible video. hi
  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 October 2020 19: 03
    +3
    A trio of cannibals - Erdogan is the main one, ate little people in Syria, at home, in Libya ... Aliyev and Pashinyan are no better. Aliyev will win the war, the eternal president of Azerbaijan ... Pashinyan will win, the eternal president of Armenia, these guys are not defeated by the peoples of Armenia and Azerbaijan forgive ...
  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 19: 37
    +2
    That Aliyev and Pashinyan are the same sixes. But the people chose them themselves, let them suffer themselves!
    1. Owls 79
      Owls 79 6 October 2020 21: 30
      +2
      The people did not choose Aliyev. His dad appointed.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 6 October 2020 21: 59
      +1
      Quote: stas
      That Aliyev and Pashinyan are the same sixes. But the people chose them themselves, let them suffer themselves!

      To whom are they six?
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 19: 49
    -2
    Quote: stas
    Khan don't shit. If the dam breaks in the Mingechevir region near Shamkhor, the Azerbaijanis and Turks will not help!
    Useless exercise. Check out the latest satellite imagery. Now the threat has been removed.
    1. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 20: 59
      +1
      You cannot block the dam with pictures, you have seen the Mingechaur reservoir and the slope of the river towards Baku! Keep the pictures for yourself instead of diapers!
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 6 October 2020 20: 12
    -2
    And where is Soros!? I would help Pashinyan! I would buy a pair or three of something ideological (brochures or agitation)! Otherwise they want to blame everything on Russia!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 6 October 2020 22: 10
      +3
      Quote: Sasha from Uralmash
      And where is Soros!? I would help Pashinyan! I would buy a pair or three of something ideological (brochures or agitation)! Otherwise they want to blame everything on Russia!

      Did Aliyev tell you about Soros?)))
  • Mmm.
    Mmm. 6 October 2020 20: 26
    -3
    The Russian Federation behaves like a toothless wolf, allowing Turkey to provoke and incite this conflict. If there is power, then it must be demonstrated and everyone must be stalled, proceeding from their interests, and not the interests of Armenia, Azerbaijan. but most of all should suffer - Turkey as a provocateur who behaves insolently and unfairly with impunity.
  • flicker
    flicker 6 October 2020 20: 50
    0
    Paradoxically, the victory of the present (Aliyev's) Azerbaijan in Karabakh is beneficial to Armenia.
    In general, Armenia should have solved the Karabakh issue politically long ago, through negotiations, but for some reason it dragged it out.
    As a result, the situation today is such that a military victory in Karabakh will fundamentally worsen the situation for Armenia.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 21: 10
    -1
    Quote: Mmm
    The Russian Federation behaves like a toothless wolf, allowing Turkey to provoke and incite this conflict. If there is power, then it must be demonstrated and everyone must be stalled, proceeding from their interests, and not the interests of Armenia, Azerbaijan. but most of all should suffer - Turkey as a provocateur who behaves insolently and unfairly with impunity.
    Do not be offended, but IMHO, STUPIDITY. Turkey is understandably declaratively and in fact a partner of Azerbaijan, as Russia is a partner of Armenia, but demonstratively fighting over the conflict.

    Have you ever wondered why the Turkish troops did not leave Azerbaijan after the joint exercises? ...
    Only without Armenian tales about the fact that the Turks are participating in battles, and their F-16s are shot down by the Su-25.

    My humble opinion. Most likely, the abandonment of the Turkish troops was agreed with Russia, both countries understood that a war in the conditions of Pashinyan's knees to the tune of his masters was inevitable, and that it would not last so long. So, most likely, the Turkish units are nothing more than the future Turkish part of the peacekeeping contingent, and the Russian unit will be formed on the basis of the units deployed in Armenia. The goal is to control the withdrawal of the Armenian Armed Forces and protect the Armenian population of Karabakh, plus control over the Lachin corridor.
    Both sides Russia and Turkey play a negotiated match and nothing more. At the same time, the presence of Turkey of the NATO country suits the West, but not only Russia, for which it is important that there are no troops of other countries.
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 22: 25
      +1
      There are few individuals with a deep knowledge of geopolitics who will understand your analysis and what you have written. On my own behalf, I will say that your thoughts are close to the truth.
    2. uhu189
      uhu189 6 October 2020 22: 37
      +3
      The losses on both sides are too great for a match-fixing. And each death increases the hatred for each other. Maybe initially the idea was similar, but there are too many uncertainties for the implementation of this plan
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  • Awaz
    Awaz 6 October 2020 21: 15
    0
    As you can see, both sides began shelling residential areas out of despair. This is powerlessness and anger. In Donbass, ukro- troops also operate in the same way. This is an American tactic used to intimidate the population. Obviously you can see from whom these grief warriors learn
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 6 October 2020 21: 19
    +3
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    Seriously, where do hundreds of thousands of Russians, tens of thousands of Jews and Armenians come from in Baku? I have seen a lot of good and bad with my own eyes and I would advise you not to lie. Tell me what and where you saw.


    From there ...

    How many Azerbaijanis were there in Baku at different times.
    Data from official censuses:

    1920 year - 20,1%
    1926 year - 26,2%
    1940 year - 29,2%
    1960 year - 32,9%
    1970 year - 46,3%
    1980 year - 55,7%
    1990 year - 66%
    2000 year - 88%
    2009 year - 90,3%
    2019 year - 92,4%

    Considering that about 2 million people lived in Baku, it's easy to calculate everything!
    All data is in open sources.
    And you're lying here so far only you ...
    1. Alena-Baku
      Alena-Baku 6 October 2020 22: 20
      -3
      What I have seen the last time I will tell you, in the late eighties, closer to the collapse of the USSR, the population began to withdraw, representatives of all nationalities, including Azerbaijanis, mainly to Russia for work and for a good life, instead of them, mainly Azerbaijanis came from villages and villages, Talysh, Lizgins, since the main part of the villages and villages were representatives of these nations, so Baku grew from 1500000 to 4500000. They did not particularly like visitors, well, as, for example, Muscovites do not like visitors. The Russian-Malokans did not go only from the village of Ivanov; Jews from the red weakness, as people from the village, represented by Russian oligarchs such as Telman Ismayilov, Nisanov, etc., turned the village into Monaco. And I can't understand you, write on any topics without being knowledgeable and draw knowledge from Wikipedia. Have you been to Baku?
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  • tarakan
    tarakan 6 October 2020 22: 58
    0
    Quote: Halpat
    Is she there? second line

    Further there will be mountains
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 23: 14
    -2
    Quote: uhu189
    The losses on both sides are too great for a match-fixing. And each death increases the hatred for each other. Maybe initially the idea was similar, but there are too many uncertainties for the implementation of this plan
    You don't mix Russia with Turkey and Azerbaijan with Armenia ...
    First of all. When you watch fights in the ring, you are largely indifferent to the pain of even the one you are rooting for.
    Secondly. What losses are you talking about? Russian observers believe, as I understand observing the behavior and actions of the Armenian authorities, primarily Pashinyan, that the Armenian casualties are already close to the critical level of 1000. For several days of fighting, this is a lot, that is, the total casualties in killed and wounded over 3000 people.
    Even the figures given by the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, or rather gave, are officially also disastrous for Armenia. And if we estimate the losses of the advancing Azerbaijan, then there will also be a bleak picture, although they believe that, given the large-scale use of UAVs, in general, they managed to hold 1/2 or a little more with the enemy, but these are also essentially destroyed several units.

    Just what are these numbers for Russia or Turkey? Perhaps they expected smaller losses, but "200 Armenians and Azerbaijanis there, 200 here" - I think for both Putin and Erdogan this is deeply in itself. Moreover, during the so-called. of the truce, each of the ward parties suffered heavy losses. Rather, on the contrary, the Armenian side needs large losses in manpower in order for the issue to be resolved more quickly, somewhere the tactics of Azerbaijan are not quite even into their hands.
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 6 October 2020 23: 39
    +4
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    What I have seen the last time I will tell you, in the late eighties, closer to the collapse of the USSR, the population began to withdraw, representatives of all nationalities, including Azerbaijanis, mainly to Russia for work and for a good life, instead of them, mainly Azerbaijanis came from villages and villages, Talysh, Lizgins, since the main part of the villages and villages were representatives of these nations, so Baku grew from 1500000 to 4500000. They did not particularly like visitors, well, as, for example, Muscovites do not like visitors. The Russian-Malokans did not go only from the village of Ivanov; Jews from the red weakness, as people from the village, represented by Russian oligarchs such as Telman Ismayilov, Nisanov, etc., turned the village into Monaco. And I can't understand you, write on any topics without being knowledgeable and draw knowledge from Wikipedia. Have you been to Baku?

    I'm from the Molokans! Stop lying and inventing here!
    I was born and lived in the Baku metro station Nefchilar, 8 km away ... and was drafted into the army from there, all my relatives left 25 people !!! After abandoning and selling apartments for a penny, for the first time being almost beggars in rented apartments, all the familiar Russian Jews, Armenians, left ... everyone I know is about a hundred people!
  • Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 6 October 2020 23: 57
    0
    Quote: Revival
    Seven times like, even under Peter 1, a joint campaign of Russia and the United States, ask Stas for more details, he remembers the details)))

    We had not seven, 12 wars with the Turks. 2 lost, 2 draw, the rest is ours. We did not fight with anyone more than the Turks. So the Turks are not a reliable "ally". Rather, a potential adversary.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 October 2020 23: 59
    0
    if he hints so subtly, then let's start a referendum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 6 October 2020 23: 59
    -1
    Quote: Mmm
    The Russian Federation behaves like a toothless wolf, allowing Turkey to provoke and incite this conflict. If there is power, then it must be demonstrated and everyone must be stalled, proceeding from their interests, and not the interests of Armenia, Azerbaijan. but most of all should suffer - Turkey as a provocateur who behaves insolently and unfairly with impunity.

    It's strange, why did you get so many minuses? Hike persimmon sellers from Moscow markets pulled up.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 7 October 2020 00: 03
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Petrov
    Quote: Mmm
    The Russian Federation behaves like a toothless wolf, allowing Turkey to provoke and incite this conflict. If there is power, then it must be demonstrated and everyone must be stalled, proceeding from their interests, and not the interests of Armenia, Azerbaijan. but most of all should suffer - Turkey as a provocateur who behaves insolently and unfairly with impunity.

    It's strange, why did you get so many minuses? Hike persimmon sellers from Moscow markets pulled up.

    trash does not need to be pumped, or rather, even notice)
  • Victorm
    Victorm 7 October 2020 00: 34
    -2
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Doliva63
    Arabs - long ago became Turks? And so, the Turks and Azerbaijanis are exactly the Turks.

    Okay, let's see who these "Turks" are - the largest number of modern Turks are Turks. According to statistics, this is 43% of all Turkic-speaking peoples or 70 million people. Next are Azerbaijanis - 15% or 25 million people. Slightly fewer Uzbeks - 23,5 million (14%), after - Kazakhs - 12 million (7%), Uighurs - 10 million (6%), Turkmens - 6 million (4%), Tatars - 5,5 million (3 %), Kyrgyz - 3,5 million (2%). Subsequent nationalities make up 1%: Bashkirs, Kashkays and Chuvashs - on average 1,5 million.Others are less than 1%: Karakalpaks (700 thousand), Afshars (600 thousand), Yakuts (480 thousand), Kumyks (400 thousand), Karachais ( 350 thousand), Tuvans (300 thousand), Gagauz (180 thousand), Balkars (115 thousand), Nogais (110 thousand), Khakass (75 thousand), Altai (70 thousand).
    Error, minor amendment.
    Turks make up only a little more than half of the population of Turkey, that is, not 70 million. people, the more the population of Turkey is more than this figure.
    Azerbaijanis make up a little less than half of the population of Iran, plus the Republic of Azerbaijan itself, plus 600 thousand. in Russia.
    The number of Azerbaijanis is 4-6 million less. than the Turks, since part of the population of Turkey is also Azerbaijanis subjected to assimilation.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 7 October 2020 00: 53
    -2
    Quote: Owl 79

    It's not far there.

    We changed our shoes quickly at the behest. They were given weapons free of charge. She's such a freebie))
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 7 October 2020 00: 53
    0
    Quote: stas
    If not for Turkey, Aliyev would have sat silently about his 7 regions. You better tell me how you dealt with the Russians on the railway. station Shamkhor, during the First World War!

    Started again? You climbed here from Zen, asking the same question to all the Azerbaijanis you met for the second year in a row? Can heal the nerves, sick? Will you remember all the episodes of the civil war? Why in Moscow and St. Petersburg the Bolsheviks began in 1918 the actions of the red terror and massively let hostages into the expense? Mostly honored military generals (including the last defender of the emperor Huseyn Khan of Nakhichevan), officers and their families, representatives of the petty bourgeoisie, priests, students, cadets, young cadets, engineers and even workers, nurses and students (after giving them to sailors)? Why in Kiev the whites massively hanged the Bolsheviks, the Haidamaks, the Petliurists staged pogroms of Jews in Kiev, Uman, Kharkov, Vinnitsa, etc.? And the Bolsheviks under the command of Tukhachevsky gassed and shot the peasants in the barn in villages? Why did the Bolsheviks and Dashnaks kill the entire Azerbaijani population of the center of Baku in 1918? Why did the chairman of Zak. Seima Chkheidze and Mdivani send a telegram to Ganja with a request to disarm a train with servicemen returning from the Turkish front? Why in the Armenian Gyumri did the Bolsheviks disrupt the same action by Zak Seim, warning the soldiers about the planned disarmament of the same kind, and the Russian soldiers, without shooting, gave all the weapons to the Armenians.
    Questions, questions, many questions arise and there is only one id-t asking a stupid question at the beginning ... and one answer to all questions: Because the war, civil, cruel and unjust in all cases.
  • Old26
    Old26 7 October 2020 01: 01
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    Quote: RUSS
    Armenians in Armenia armed themselves for all 30 years, and the Armenians from Karabakh apparently hoped for Armenia, plus the entire population of Karabakh is 150 thousand, respectively, and the army of Karabakh is small and, in other words, does not have modern weapons

    Blessed is he who believes. Look, at least in the same reference book MILITARY BALANCE, and not only in it, but also in other sources, the amount of equipment in Karabakh and in Armenia. The same tanks in Armenia are about 110-115, in Karabakh, according to various estimates, from 200 to 371. For the same Karabakh, artillery of caliber over 122 mm has about 130 units in Armenia, from 250 to about 300 in Karabakh. There is no Karabakh, but at the same Ganja they fired from it. There are also "Elbrus". Where does all this stuff come from, isn't it from Armenia? Armenia itself armed itself, and Karabakh armed itself with it. Or was all this good there during the Soviet era and remained after the carve-up? Or this republic, unrecognized by anyone, was there a massive supply of weapons?

    Quote: stas
    Why are you lying like a gypsy. Russians, Jews and Armenians left Baku long ago, only the weak remained!

    Why is he lying. My former colleague has a daughter in Baku who is Russian by nationality. Yes, and my colleague herself with the whole family often went there.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 7 October 2020 01: 19
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    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Livonetc
    Turks, Azerbaijanis

    There is also a question of religion, the Turks are Sunnis, the Azerbajans are Shiites, to put it mildly, both of these currents do not love each other, but the Turks and Azerbaijanis have mutual love. Unclear......
    There is no such deep love.
    The Ottoman and Azerbaijani Turks were competitors almost throughout their history and fought more than once until 1821, when the battle of Erzurum became the last in the history of our peoples.
    As you rightly noted, in addition to differences in language, culture, traditions and customs, different currents in Islam have been and still are a powerful watershed. Azerbaijanis are practically all Shiites, and Turks are practically all Sunnis. The Republic of Azerbaijan, the only independent and sovereign state of Azerbaijanis currently created in the northern territories of Azerbaijan, gravitates towards Turkey for only two reasons.
    First, this is a remake story when the Turks managed to put the Kaiser-Ottoman agent at the head of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. And later, after the collapse of the USSR and the independence of the former Azerbaijan SSR, Musavatists and the KGB People's Front came to power.
    Second, in a situation when Russia made a bet on Armenia, Azerbaijan had a choice only between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Republic of Turkey, since Azerbaijanis have never been distinguished by radicalism in Islam, Turkey was naturally chosen, though not everything was smooth on the path of rapprochement. But national self-awareness, often expressed in the form of nationalism and pan-Turkism prevalent in Turkey, eventually allowed them to converge.
    Now the Islamists, headed by Erdogan, are in power in Turkey, while they traditionally play up the ideas of pan-Turkism in relation to Azerbaijan, but gradually, in essence, the Sunni trend is implanted in Islam, including the radical, the so-called. "Wahhabbi sense" (Salafis), Turkey is trying to break and overcome the barrier in the form of Shiism, which threatens the future of Azerbaijanis in the northern territories and may alienate them from their true blood brothers living in the southern territories of Azerbaijan, which are part of modern Iran.
    If Erdogan's insanity begins to grow stronger, I am afraid this will either lead to a cooling of relations or to a conflict within Azerbaijan.
    The complex of defeat in the First Karabakh war also contributed to the turning and "Sunnisization" of many Azerbaijanis, as I myself have high hopes for victory not only in connection with the return of lands, but also with the strengthening of self-awareness, a sense of dignity, and people's faith in themselves.
    We were very much distorted by history, including the Turks - a rather paradoxical situation has developed when a divided people does not see a national idea in the unification, because it is constantly withdrawn from the very issue of uniting the nation. The Russian Empire thus sought to protect itself from the loss of the conquered territories, Turkey seeks to have a small and pocket Azerbaijan, and also diverts the attention of Azerbaijanis from the truth of history. Even a complex of some kind of inferiority is cultivated by someone, by those whom the Azerbaijanis managed to unite not only their lands, but also the lands of Persia, and more than once on their heads. Moreover, the bulk of the troops of the Azerbaijani state of Qajars were not easy Azerbaijanis, there were no other nations, and most of them came from the northern territories.
    Let me remind you once again that in 1821, in the battle of Erzurum, the 30 thousandth army of Azerbaijanis completely defeated the 50th army of the Turks, who were superior to them. After this defeat, Turkey never again fought either with the Azerbaijani state of Qajars, which existed, if roughly in 1920, or in the aftermath with the Shah's or Islamic Iran, even though power passed to the Farces (Persians). And throughout history they tried to impose on Azerbaijanis that they are not warriors, weak at the knees, here I read about the "instability of the Azerbaijani infantry", etc., that is, one of the varieties of an inferiority complex.
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  • Victorm
    Victorm 7 October 2020 01: 56
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    Quote: Truth
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    Seriously, where do hundreds of thousands of Russians, tens of thousands of Jews and Armenians come from in Baku? I have seen a lot of good and bad with my own eyes and I would advise you not to lie. Tell me what and where you saw.


    From there ...

    How many Azerbaijanis were there in Baku at different times.
    Data from official censuses:

    1920 year - 20,1%
    1926 year - 26,2%
    1940 year - 29,2%
    1960 year - 32,9%
    1970 year - 46,3%
    1980 year - 55,7%
    1990 year - 66%
    2000 year - 88%
    2009 year - 90,3%
    2019 year - 92,4%
    Yes, the situation in Baku was critical, if not for the same Heydar Aliyev, who became the First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Azerbaijan SSR in 1969 (pay attention to your table), then Baku would have faced the fate of another Azerbaijani city - Derbent. During the first campaign of Peter the Great, Azerbaijanis were the majority, the second large nation were Mountain Jews, and even those were only 5-6% of the population, now Azerbaijanis make up less than a third of the population. In the same Derbent, there were no Armenians at all, but as soon as it underwent a couple of times transition to Russian rule, the Armenian community of Derbent emerged and grew stronger.

    So what good was it that the indigenous population was roughly one third of the population of the capital of the territory? - in my opinion, a shameful fact, the result of an essentially wild colonization. Well, just take a break from the personal and look at the situation from above - the situation is just WILD, when the indigenous population made up hardly a third of the population of their own capital.
    You would also remind that not only Moscow, but also Baku knew the term "limit".

    And this all happened against the background of the resettlement of Armenians to the territory of the Armenian SSR, once the Iravan Khanate + Zangezur Mahal, until the end of the 60s and the gradual survival of the indigenous Azerbaijani population from there. Also remind that the same Heydar Aliyev, although he was born in Nakhichevan, has roots in the Iravan Khanate, and therefore, with his coming to power in the Azerbaijan SSR, much has fortunately changed and the Azerbaijanis have ceased to be almost guests. in your own home, republic.
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 7 October 2020 04: 28
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    Quote: stas
    Turkey will receive from both the US and Russia! This has happened many times in the history of Russia and Turkey!

    Ek you my friend shandrahnulo !!! you are not one of those who "dug" the Black Sea !?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 7 October 2020 04: 35
    -1
    No need to comrade Armenians. To blame one place, the reckoning came in an instant. It is impossible to sit on two "chairs" in our time. Lukashenka also tried to check. Only the situation of the residents of N. Karabakh is straining. How would the genocide not start !?
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 06: 34
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    Who started it all could not help but know that as a result they would come to where they started. Maybe enough to please the spoiled public with hot facts, And the foreign arms lords drool. You can put a hundred or two of the faithful sons of the fatherland. The result will be the same as before the war. What's the point of starting all this?
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 7 October 2020 07: 01
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    Everyone should be on the side of the truth. There is an occupier and there is a victim of the occupation. Justice is on the side of Azerbaijan. Countries, including Russia, need to be on the side of justice.


    Our military base and people are located in Armenia on a contractual basis, and this obliges Russia to respond to everything that happens there adequately to the situation ...
    We must remind Cavusoglu that Russia is on the side of justice in Syria. And Turkey was not invited to Syria, unlike Russia. Let them bring down from there and take the Yankis with them.