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The head of the SVR of Russia announced the transfer of militants "Dzhebhat al-Nusra" to the Transcaucasus

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Turkey openly supports Azerbaijan in its conflict with Armenia. This became a fundamentally new external factor in the situation with Nagorno-Karabakh.


This statement by the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin was circulated today by the press bureau of the department.

Ankara's open and unequivocal support for Baku, but Naryshkin's opinion, has a significant impact on the nature of the conflict in Transcaucasia.

In addition, the armed confrontation between Azerbaijan and Armenia attracts, like a magnet, various groups of radicals, primarily from the Middle East. These people are members of international terrorist organizations. In particular, there is information about the transfer of militants from the Dzhebhat al-Nusra terrorist group to the conflict zone (* banned in the Russian Federation). The head of the SVR says that they have been deployed to Transcaucasia from Syria.

In addition, representatives of international terrorist armed groups * Sultan Murad and Firkat Hamza, as well as Kurdish groups, began to appear in the region. In this case, we are not talking about isolated cases, but about hundreds and even thousands of radicals.

Naryshkin also noted that Russia is not indifferent to the fate of the inhabitants of the Transcaucasian states:

For Russia, as the co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, a new war in the region is unacceptable. We are also far from indifferent to the fact that in the course of hostilities representatives of friendly Armenian and Azerbaijani peoples are dying.
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  1. mig29mks
    mig29mks 6 October 2020 16: 30
    16
    We have them at the door, they are at the window !!!
    1. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 17: 01
      12
      Probably the wrong people were bombed in Syria if they survived and climb out the window!

      What the hell of the Russian Federation is supplying gas to Turkey and building a nuclear power plant for them for Russian money?
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 6 October 2020 17: 09
        +9
        Probably they are produced faster than destroyed.
        1. stas
          stas 6 October 2020 17: 10
          -2
          For 3 years, those born do not turn into Basmachi. The wrong ones were bombed!
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 6 October 2020 19: 21
            -6
            You were not there :: you see, Russia would have suggested something, you see, it would have learned something from you, did not make mistakes, but followed your instructions - long ago all the terrorists would have fled through the desert forests, or together with they surrendered with weapons and began to work as taxi drivers! laughing laughing laughing
            1. stas
              stas 6 October 2020 19: 27
              +2
              I was there, they gave them a sniff between my legs, and then the USSR was destroyed by the top of the CPSU Central Committee!
          2. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 7 October 2020 02: 40
            +1
            It is the main personality that is formed in the first 3-5 years.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 6 October 2020 19: 05
        +9
        The head of the SVR of Russia announced the transfer of militants "Dzhebhat al-Nusra" to the Transcaucasus


        Finally, Russia was also "born" with at least something, interrupting the indefinitely prolonged pause on the announcement of such obvious data on the transfer of militants from the SAR ...

        Now, the time has obviously come to ask the President of Azerbaijan a number of questions about his support for terrorism?
      3. 4UMA
        4UMA 6 October 2020 23: 37
        0
        What does Russia and the Jews have to do with it?
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 33
          +1
          Jews always have something to do with it. laughing By the way, they were the first to warn Pashinyan about this. But they have their own gesheft there.
          1. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 7 October 2020 02: 49
            +2
            ... they say they are actively supplying weapons at the moment ... Maybe the Russian Federation will start supplying newer weapons to Iran ... money doesn’t smell. And after all, before that, they did not supply more at the request of Israel ... They are very fond of talking about their national security, while spitting on someone else's ...
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 7 October 2020 04: 07
              0
              That's what I say ... with the Jews it is always like that, the supply of weapons is a gesheft. And the worse it is for Azerbaijanis, the more profitable the Jews, the more lava will earn. And the Jews do not care about the Armenians, they will not have anything from them for any. Russia would now start pumping up that region with everything that can be sold, and in both directions. But this is still not our style, we are not so much unscrupulous hucksters as Jews.
    2. AshPoseidon
      AshPoseidon 6 October 2020 17: 12
      +6
      Barmaley will breed in Azerbaijan, then they will want to make a revolution, and then Russia is not far away. We must now think about how to wet them.
      1. iomoe
        iomoe 6 October 2020 17: 29
        -10 qualifying.
        In general, they came up with what sauce to keep the wrung out by the Armenians further.
      2. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 6 October 2020 20: 58
        +6
        Quote: Ash Poseidon
        Barmaley will breed in Azerbaijan, then they will want to make a revolution, and then Russia is not far away. We must now think about how to wet them.

        You used to have to think, concluding at least strange "gentlemen's agreement" with the Turks, in fact transferring them under their control a part of the territory of Syria.

        Why did it happen that terrorists on a part of the territory of the SAR have not yet been destroyed and, moreover, feel so confident there under the auspices of Turkey that they can afford tours to Karabakh?

        The question is not at all rhetorical, and is addressed to the Kremlin and comrade diplomats from Smolenskaya Square ...

        The Barmaley are going, going ...

        1. iouris
          iouris 6 October 2020 23: 51
          +2
          Reconnaissance - additional reconnaissance - inflicting devastating blows (until they spread) - objective control of the results. Azerbaijan has been turned into a terrorist hornet's nest. If these terrorists are not killed, then what is intelligence for?
        2. 4UMA
          4UMA 6 October 2020 23: 56
          0
          This is a business, nothing personal ...
    3. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 17: 12
      -5
      Why is the current government not an ally, but the police and the military!
      1. frruc
        frruc 6 October 2020 18: 50
        -1
        tongue Are you writing about your power or are you the people?
        1. stas
          stas 6 October 2020 18: 52
          0
          Is there any other power in Russia besides the Eaters of Russia!
          1. frruc
            frruc 6 October 2020 18: 59
            -5
            The power suits me, and if you don't like it, go where it's good.
            1. stas
              stas 6 October 2020 19: 01
              +5
              It will be good in Russia, without crooks and thieves from the Eaters of Russia!
              1. frruc
                frruc 6 October 2020 19: 04
                +1
                Thieves and crooks are everywhere. It is necessary to catch, then: court, confiscation, re-education (occupational therapy in places not so remote).
                1. Rusticolus
                  Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 34
                  +6
                  And who will catch them, if the catchers are at the same time with them?
    4. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 17: 21
      -4
      Where is the photo, where is the evidence. Armenian radio is constantly talking about this even without the intelligence chief!
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 6 October 2020 17: 46
      +6
      Quote: mig29mks
      We have them at the door, they are at the window !!!

      The Israelis do not ask anyone, they simply fire at everything enemy from the adjacent territory, and even Russia is not shy. Good tactic in local conflicts.
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 18: 53
        +1
        Come on, the Jews of the United States are allowed not to ask anyone but them!
        1. 4UMA
          4UMA 6 October 2020 23: 59
          0
          Who decides to whom is another big question ...
    6. stas
      stas 6 October 2020 17: 59
      +1
      What is reported by the chief of intelligence has long been known to everyone and it was predicted!
      You don't need to be the chief of intelligence for this!
      Intelligence should act and not spread information. If there is evidence why they are not represented in the UN, or the Council of Europe.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 6 October 2020 18: 56
        +3
        Quote: stas
        Intelligence should act and not spread information. If there is evidence why they are not represented in the UN, or the Council of Europe.

        The UN and the Council of Europe can only express concern.
        1. stas
          stas 6 October 2020 19: 09
          +1
          Baloo don't turn into a gopher!
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 6 October 2020 19: 17
            +2
            Quote: stas
            Baloo don't turn into a gopher!

            Yes, come on, you are even further from the eagle.
            1. stas
              stas 6 October 2020 19: 24
              0
              So my name is not cartoonish like yours!
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 6 October 2020 19: 54
                +3
                Quote: stas
                So my name is not cartoonish like yours!

                I have a bear surname, encrypted, since childhood, modest and shy to tears. On, booze. Something you are aggressive, you throw yourself at everyone. Are you worried about Armenians and Azeris? The one with the stronger eggs will win.
                1. stas
                  stas 6 October 2020 19: 56
                  +2
                  I have my own from my grapes!
                  1. Baloo
                    Baloo 6 October 2020 20: 00
                    +2
                    Quote: stas
                    I have my own from my grapes!

                    Well, then for us, for you and for the special forces!
                    1. stas
                      stas 6 October 2020 20: 06
                      +5
                      So I wish victory to Armenians and Azerbaijanis, over each other, to the last mountain goat. But strategically, it is necessary to kick Erdogan's ass through the Armenians!
                      1. Baloo
                        Baloo 6 October 2020 20: 14
                        +3
                        Quote: stas
                        So I wish victory to Armenians and Azerbaijanis, over each other, to the last mountain goat. But strategically, it is necessary to kick Erdogan's ass through the Armenians!

                        Do not feel sorry for ordinary people, those who raise children, cultivate their land, live there?
                      2. stas
                        stas 6 October 2020 20: 19
                        +5
                        It's a pity, it's a pity, but first of all they should feel sorry for their children, in what hatred they raised them for each other! I served there a lot, I know personally. Let's take pity on ourselves Slavs! They never felt sorry for us!
                        Even when the USSR collapsed and what the Azerbaijanis were doing with the Russians, I saw it myself and went through it myself!
                      3. Baloo
                        Baloo 6 October 2020 20: 25
                        +2
                        Quote: stas
                        Even when the USSR collapsed and what the Azerbaijanis were doing with the Russians, I saw it myself and went through it myself!

                        I know.
                      4. Aag
                        Aag 6 October 2020 20: 46
                        +4
                        Guys, God had mercy, - "sat out" in the Trans-Baikal taiga in the 90s ... That's not the point. Look, even here, at the Russian forum, some are ready to gnaw each other's throats ...
                        Isn't that what the enemies wanted ?! But we, for the most part, served the same Fatherland! In different types of the Armed Forces, in different districts, in different ways, but, in essence, for one idea! Or how? And what, should I now admit that life is down the drain, since it is so simple to split US?
  • frruc
    frruc 6 October 2020 19: 07
    0
    The UN has long been a castrated body, while the Council of Europe is focused on other issues.
  • Seal
    Seal 7 October 2020 13: 37
    -2
    In addition, representatives of international terrorist armed groups * Sultan Murad and Firkat Hamza, as well as Kurdish groups, began to appear in the region. In this case, we are not talking about isolated cases, but about hundreds and even thousands of radicals.
    The saying has long been known: "The more a member of the Komsomol drinks, the less the bully will drink." laughing
    The more barmaley Turkey takes out of Syria, the easier it will be for our and Syrian guys to liberate Idlib.
    If the Armenians utilize at least half of the Barmaley who have appeared in Karabakh, then the Armenians will be grateful for this in the form of a thank you.
    And if the Armenians manage to dispose of more than half of the barmaley, then perhaps they will receive a BIG thanks. hi
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 6 October 2020 16: 31
    17
    It has long been clear to everyone who is driving all sorts of "nusras". But after all "partners", their mother. In the first place - all sorts of gas and oil "streams" that are trying to push through the devil.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 40
      13
      Quote: Piramidon
      It has long been clear to everyone who is driving all sorts of "nusras". But after all "partners", their mother. In the first place - all sorts of gas and oil "streams" that are trying to push through the devil.

      Okay, flows, although money was thrown there in vain .. But the S-400 and the nuclear power plant .. this is generally beyond the bounds, given that friend Erdogan Peshkov shot down and obviously covers the barmaleev .. It is not surprising and predictable that now he will use the same barmaleev. ...
      Half measures they only delay the defeat .. and half measures we have in everything ..
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: Piramidon
      It has long been clear to everyone who is driving all sorts of "nusras".

      Again the striped ears came out. Like where the turmoil begins in the world, look for striped ears and you will definitely find
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 17: 19
        0
        Where striped there and eared Lipchanin!
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 6 October 2020 16: 31
    19
    For Russia, as the co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, a new war in the region is unacceptable. We are also far from indifferent to the fact that in the course of hostilities representatives of friendly Armenian and Azerbaijani peoples are dying.
    Well, if this is the case, let’s drive a dozen "Topol" across Ankara and Turkish military bases. Anyway, they remove it from service. Replacing it with "Yars." We will solve a bunch of problems with lightning speed. There will be sanctions. NATO ... But where will NATO be. Well, if such is the case. We must decide something. Why this deadly war? Why so much grief? In the former republics of the USSR. The Turks want an empire. Well, let them understand that it is hard to be an empire. Why waste our lives. Let's spend the lives of future Turks imperials. And then they will want to be an empire.
    1. mig29mks
      mig29mks 6 October 2020 16: 38
      +7
      Powerful to hit so !!! So that everyone in the west would have all the questions to Russia immediately disappeared))
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 17: 15
        +5
        There is no one to give away, he is not Stalin, everything has disappeared from him long ago!
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 October 2020 17: 16
        +1
        Quote: mig29mks
        Powerful to hit so !!! So that everyone in the west would have all the questions to Russia immediately disappeared))

        A-ah-ah !!! Russia is proving its aggressive nature to the peaceful, democratic West, even on their aggressive VO site. laughing Partners just want to direct us to the true, only guided by them, the path, so that we share the untold wealth, unfairly inherited by the wild, deranged country. sad
        1. the finish
          the finish 6 October 2020 17: 30
          +1
          Maybe not in this case, and this is a variant of points of contact? Today Britain and Canada have expressed support for the statements of the troika (RF US France).
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 6 October 2020 17: 48
            +1
            Quote: finish
            Maybe not in this case

            In which case? Look to whom and what I answered. I meant the local couch "strategists" are constantly here, for any reason, calling for "GIVE" to Washington, Ankara, Kiev ... with vigorous loaves and lovers of "plus" who are molded by the same idiots, without thinking about the consequences ...
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 41
              -1
              do not boil dear, I agree with the brow and thought the same thing ... this time everything is somehow really not unambiguous to argue about whether it's time to hit it or not. You are worried about those who "hit" and we think for the fact that this time, somehow, and not for anything. here is really something else.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 6 October 2020 16: 52
      -3
      For a long time I say there is nothing to lose in such a confrontation, to burn out the source of this all abomination and forget.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 October 2020 17: 51
        -1
        Quote: Incvizitor
        For a long time I say there is nothing to lose in such a confrontation, to burn out the source of this all abomination and forget.

        Do you give a third world with vigorous loaves? But there will be no one to forget or remember after that.
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 6 October 2020 17: 57
          0
          Who for the king will burn in the fire of nuclear weapons?
    3. keeper03
      keeper03 6 October 2020 16: 58
      0
      Great offer and at the same time "build" the strait! good soldier
      1. stas
        stas 6 October 2020 17: 16
        +1
        On which no one will either sail or walk like sailors!
        1. keeper03
          keeper03 6 October 2020 18: 05
          -2
          It depends on how wide it will be! yes Fish will definitely love it! wassat
          1. stas
            stas 6 October 2020 18: 08
            +1
            So go and please the fishermen. They will cook an ear out of you at the commemoration!
          2. stas
            stas 6 October 2020 18: 13
            +1
            You bomb under your covers, just put on a mask against the stench!
    4. Aag
      Aag 6 October 2020 21: 05
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      For Russia, as the co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, a new war in the region is unacceptable. We are also far from indifferent to the fact that in the course of hostilities representatives of friendly Armenian and Azerbaijani peoples are dying.
      Well, if this is the case, let’s drive a dozen "Topol" across Ankara and Turkish military bases. Anyway, they remove it from service. Replacing it with "Yars." We will solve a bunch of problems with lightning speed. There will be sanctions. NATO ... But where will NATO be. Well, if such is the case. We must decide something. Why this deadly war? Why so much grief? In the former republics of the USSR. The Turks want an empire. Well, let them understand that it is hard to be an empire. Why waste our lives. Let's spend the lives of future Turks imperials. And then they will want to be an empire.

      Is that sarcasm like that?
      Or a feeling of little-concealed hopelessness? Without anger, it’s true, it’s just hard to believe in another multi-move. Rather, they are forced to remain silent due to their military-economic potential (worse, if due to other reasons).
    5. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 6 October 2020 22: 05
      0
      We need to help Kurdistan become a STATE (on the territory of Turkey). Help Haftar defeat Saraj. Help SAR to liberate Idlib ... Help, not "crush water in a mortar" = "call for peace."
  • paul3390
    paul3390 6 October 2020 16: 31
    +7
    Of course it is unacceptable - after all, as a result of this war, both the loser and the winning side will move en masse to Russia for permanent residence.
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 43
      0
      And we have a second wave of covid, the borders are closed. Let them turn to ODKB. There is not only Russia there. Although partly I agree with you. These and without soap will get through.
  • engineer74
    engineer74 6 October 2020 16: 32
    30
    When they started the war in Syria, one of the goals, if anyone remembers, was to prevent the barmaley from entering the Caucasus and the borders of Russia ...
    We choose partners so-so. sad
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 35
      +5
      What do partners have to do with it? Many terrorists were beaten in Syria ..
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 6 October 2020 16: 37
        +4
        Did they come to Nagorno-Karabakh on their own initiative?
        That which was beaten in Syria remained there, and these would have remained if it were not for the "partners"!
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 39
          +3
          Even though you choose partners, don't choose, it doesn't affect anything. They just are, whether we like it or not.
        2. iomoe
          iomoe 6 October 2020 17: 34
          -7
          Those. it is normal to occupy the territory, no one was so excited, and now it is strange that all scum (it is true, for whom the scum, and for whom, the liberators, if they really came), reached there. The main thing is to hang the correct label before soaking in the toilet.
          1. Rusticolus
            Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 47
            -1
            And when they both spilled Karabakh there, Syria was really on the agenda? These are their personal graters inside Karabakh. Or again ... Boyar come judge us? But the igil barmale is a completely different calico. It is clear that it is not the Azerbaijanis who decide there. But this is purely their problems, they did not put it on the tag.
        3. Aag
          Aag 6 October 2020 21: 10
          0
          Quote: engineer74
          Did they come to Nagorno-Karabakh on their own initiative?
          That which was beaten in Syria remained there, and these would have remained if it were not for the "partners"!

          As a result, what? Yes, not in that amount, but closer, and with the open support of the former "allies". Was it worth it?
          We are waiting for the denouement ...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 6 October 2020 16: 39
      +9
      It seems that the wrong people were bombed .. And we are building the wrong gas pipelines, selling nuclear power plants, S-400s, and generally licking them in every possible way ... For the Turks, in principle, do not remember good, and they perceive any concessions as an open weakness.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 52
        -2
        Did we lick them? I didn’t notice ... Who should build? They built it in China, India remained. Is that all?
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 6 October 2020 16: 56
          +5
          Well, if you forgive the murdered ambassador, the downed plane, the death of our military in Syria, and instead of punishment for this, a continuous rain of nishtyaks does not mean licking ... Whoever builds - well, not outright enemies ...
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 06
            -2
            Quote: paul3390
            Well, if you forgive the murdered ambassador, the downed plane, the death of our military in Syria, and instead of punishment for this, a continuous rain of nishtyaks does not mean licking ... Whoever builds - well, not outright enemies ...

            Well, if you do not count the Turks killed in Syria, then yes - only nishtyaks.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 6 October 2020 17: 07
              +3
              So what? How did it stop the Turks? Well, they killed a hundred or two - what dry sediment? Did they leave Idlib? Have you stopped shitting with all your might? Is this a victory?
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 14
                +1
                Did we say that we defeated the Turks? I have not heard something like that. And they beat ours - did we leave Syria? Did they defeat us with this? Also no.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 17
        +4
        Quote: paul3390
        Turks - they don’t remember good in principle, and any concessions are perceived as an open weakness

        So it was a weakness, not a concession. Bulgaria refused the flow and we had nowhere to go, in conditions of dependence on the export of raw materials that had not been resolved for decades. Is this a strong position?
        1. mark2
          mark2 6 October 2020 19: 30
          0
          and we had nowhere to go, in conditions of dependence on the export of raw materials that has not been resolved for decades

          So this is not their dependence. This is your addiction. They have enough for any, but you, the population, no longer.
    3. Pereira
      Pereira 6 October 2020 16: 43
      +4
      When they started the war in Syria, one of the goals, if anyone remembers, was to prevent the barmaley from entering the Caucasus and the borders of Russia ...

      Remember. This is the question, is the Syrian campaign really won?
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 46
        10
        This is probably a question of how many days they will appear in Dagestan ... and in other parts of the Caucasus .. - there is only one question left, and this is a matter of time ..
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 48
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        When they started the war in Syria, one of the goals, if anyone remembers, was to prevent the barmaley from entering the Caucasus and the borders of Russia ...

        Remember. This is the question, is the Syrian campaign really won?

        Shoigu has already announced this three times ..
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 6 October 2020 16: 49
          0
          Here is the price for it.
        2. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 58
          +5
          I never said that the Syrian campaign was won.
        3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 26
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          Shoigu has already announced this three times

          The problem is not with the military, but with those who give them orders. In particular, orders for this strange series of truces. It is the one who gives these orders, and should be awarded, and three times.
          To issue a special medal: "For a complete and, this time certainly, final victory over terrorists in Syria." And make all 3 medals wear at once.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 34
            -2
            The truce and the Syrian army were also needed. Or do you think there were few Syrians killed? Both respite and regrouping were needed. Otherwise, listen to you, the Syrian army was full of strength and determination to finish off the enemy, and we prevented them.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 21: 31
              -2
              Quote: 1976AG
              The truce and the Syrian army were also needed. <...> Both respite and regrouping were needed

              The respite and regrouping is done between operations, not in the middle.
              If, for example, in 1942, the advanced units of the 3rd and 4th tank armies, not completing the task of the operation being carried out, stopped to rest half the way to Kalach-on-Don, having previously signed an armistice with Paulus and Manstein, then the outcome of the Great Patriotic War could well be quite different.
            2. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 6 October 2020 22: 19
              +1
              The "Syrian truces" are reminiscent of the "truce in Chechnya in the summer of 1995" and the "Khasavyurt surrender on August 31, 1996". Then the same was said about the achievement of "peace" ... and how did it all end? - a new war.
        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 October 2020 18: 38
          -1
          Quote: Svarog
          Shoigu has already announced this three times

          If only for you personally, in the sauna over a glass.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 6 October 2020 18: 43
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            If only for you personally, in the sauna over a glass.

            Shaiga is a knight of the Maltese order and each other's friends, they steam in saunas that are not available to us plebeians.
      3. paul3390
        paul3390 6 October 2020 16: 54
        0
        And what have we won over the past 20 years? Apart from the Crimea ..
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 59
          +8
          Quote: paul3390
          And what have we won over the past 20 years? Apart from the Crimea ..

          Peace enforcement of Georgia.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 6 October 2020 17: 05
            11
            Did we force her? And what results have you achieved? There is no NATO or Turks in Georgia? Have we established a friendly government there? Have we finally removed the threat from the Georgian border? Alas - we just kicked the Georgians in the face. Which in itself is certainly not bad, but I would also like positive results of this gesture .. Instead of this, for some reason we stopped at the approaches to Tbilisi and left the Saakashvili regime to live ..
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 08
              +3
              Quote: paul3390
              Did we force her? And what results have you achieved? There is no NATO or Turks in Georgia? Have we established a friendly government there? Have we finally removed the threat from the Georgian border? Alas - we just kicked the Georgians in the face. Which in itself is certainly not bad, but I would also like positive results of this gesture .. Instead of this, for some reason we stopped at the approaches to Tbilisi and left the Saakashvili regime to live ..

              The result is tens of thousands of surviving civilians of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and the absence of Georgian and NATO troops in these territories. Isn't that enough?
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      4. 1976AG
        1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 54
        +9
        Quote: Pereira
        When they started the war in Syria, one of the goals, if anyone remembers, was to prevent the barmaley from entering the Caucasus and the borders of Russia ...

        Remember. This is the question, is the Syrian campaign really won?

        It has not been won yet, since not the entire territory of Syria is controlled by Assad, but was it in vain that the terrorists were beaten there? Now, not 5000 militants would rush to the Caucasus, but 120. Is that better?
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 30
          +1
          Quote: 1976AG
          Was it in vain that the terrorists were beaten there?

          No one questions this. On the contrary. They beat - and should have finished. And that's why they didn't let them finish off - there are questions to this.
      5. halpat
        halpat 6 October 2020 17: 06
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        When they started the war in Syria, one of the goals, if anyone remembers, was to prevent the barmaley from entering the Caucasus and the borders of Russia ...

        Remember. This is the question, is the Syrian campaign really won?

        We have just “duped”: ISIS has been defeated. Not a single terrorist was allowed into Russian territory.
        Now what? do you want to be blown up? smile

        I am generally confused by the effectiveness of the work of the corresponding Russian (special) services.
        Or maybe they just work out, report, and where is all this reported - everything fades away?
        But such a funny feeling develops:
        1. Bulk - overslept.
        2. Belarus - overslept
        3. Karabakh - ...
        4. Kyrgyzstan - similar to paragraphs 1-3
        It seems that the authorities themselves find out everything "from the newspapers", ask the service, and they ... either have not read the newspapers themselves ... or they say: and there your daddy is green ... hope was sent by us ...
        No?
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 11
          +3
          This will probably be news to you, but terrorists have the ability to move from one state to another, and besides this, the recruitment of militants has never stopped, so the presence of militants should not be surprising and this is not an indicator of the effectiveness of our group's work.
          1. halpat
            halpat 6 October 2020 17: 22
            -2
            Well, that is, after all, this political leadership is "stupid". So?
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 23
              +1
              What is the stupidity?
              1. halpat
                halpat 6 October 2020 17: 57
                +1
                Quote: 1976AG
                What is the stupidity?

                I can't know, but I can guess from the way the Russian news stream is going.
                Let me explain:
                1. In Russia there is the only person making decisions - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. All the rest are extras of varying degrees of public awareness.
                2. If this is really the case, as I wrote in paragraph 1, then the "executors" work as follows.
                He made a report: he presented the situation absolutely correctly and accurately, even analyzed it and, possibly, talentedly.
                And nothing more. Neither my opinion, nor my suggestions. Not my diocese - not my level of decision-making (lean out - you will also remain guilty, colleagues on the hierarchical ladder will be happy to help with this).
                And one VVP, even with 2-3 or 5 closest and most faithful nearby, simply cannot grasp the immensity.
                Something like that.
                A rough analogy is the USSR before the start of the Great Patriotic War.
                Does not look like it?
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 50
                  0
                  p.2 Made a report and analyzed. Nothing more is required of him! Next comes decision making based on this report and analysis. And making a decision is precisely the prerogative of the president and no one else! Of course, this report is discussed with the persons involved, but the final decision is made by the Supreme. Just because he is Supreme! And what does it mean to embrace the immensity? Or do you think that the decision should be made by 10-15 people? Each his own. And there at least the grass does not grow. The situation is being discussed with the General Staff, SVR and others with whom it should be. The final decision is still made by the President. And nothing else.
                  1. halpat
                    halpat 6 October 2020 19: 15
                    +2
                    I also know from my work.
                    Put a report / report and that's it. Even though the grass does not grow
                    This annoys me personally. Then you start to torture, pull out with pliers.

                    And the GDP is not only the Supreme, but also the President of the Russian Federation.
                    And when he, in some Tulun, has in different poses the heads of the village-district scale, and there ... "The Swedes have taken Kem", then, frankly, I am taken aback. Such an unimaginably huge machine like Russia is tied to one person.
                    Hence the "dull", not stupidity! One person cannot handle everything.
                    It is not right and it will break sometime. I have no doubts about this: (unfortunately.
          2. Aag
            Aag 6 October 2020 21: 26
            0
            Quote: 1976AG
            This will probably be news to you, but terrorists have the ability to move from one state to another, and besides this, the recruitment of militants has never stopped, so the presence of militants should not be surprising and this is not an indicator of the effectiveness of our group's work.

            So who is the question about the movement of terrorists, or is it such a natural given as ebb-tide, sunset-sunrise?
            Or maybe the problem is that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, some considered "a woman with a cart, it's easier for a mare"? No, not so! The latest events confirm this: Ukraine, Belarus, Karabakh, Kyrgyzstan ... More and more, closer and closer. Fact, no paranoia.
            And everything would be fine if it did not smolder inside ...
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    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 12
      +2
      Quote: engineer74
      non-admission of barmaley to the Caucasus and to the borders of Russia

      Therefore, we gathered the barmaley from all over Syria, put them on buses and took them to the Sultan, and he put them on board - and straight to the Caucasus.
      Someone there we have a great mind endowed, not otherwise ...
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 37
        -3
        It is easier to fight on one front than on three. The Syrian army is not strong enough to simultaneously attack terrorists in all directions.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 18: 10
          +2
          Quote: 1976AG
          It is easier to fight on one front than on three. The Syrian army is not strong enough to simultaneously attack terrorists in all directions.

          Following your logic, after the enemy's front breaks through, his communications are disrupted, and his troops are split into small groups, forced to maintain a separate defense, without communication with each other - this is where the enemy becomes especially strong.
          Triandafillov would have simply shed a tear from such revelations.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 34
            -1
            I believe that it is easier to isolate and then eliminate one hotbed of resistance than to keep surrounded, and then storm three or more hotbeds of resistance in urban development.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 20: 46
              -1
              Quote: 1976AG
              isolate

              Isolate? Near Turkey?

              Quote: 1976AG
              I believe that it is easier to isolate and then eliminate one hotbed of resistance than to keep surrounded, and then storm three or more hotbeds of resistance in urban development.

              What's easier? In the second case, you have the opportunity to maneuver your forces, but the defenders do not. In the first, you lose your advantage.
            2. Aag
              Aag 6 October 2020 21: 30
              +1
              Quote: 1976AG
              I believe that it is easier to isolate and then eliminate one hotbed of resistance than to keep surrounded, and then storm three or more hotbeds of resistance in urban development.

              I don’t think this is a direct consequence, but it looks like we’ll have to catch the shortcomings at the closest approaches, calculate already inside ...
              1. Rusticolus
                Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 59
                0
                Quote: AAG
                Quote: 1976AG
                I believe that it is easier to isolate and then eliminate one hotbed of resistance than to keep surrounded, and then storm three or more hotbeds of resistance in urban development.

                I don’t think this is a direct consequence, but it looks like we’ll have to catch the shortcomings at the closest approaches, calculate already inside ...
                I agree that this is exactly what will happen. This is a condition of the modern highly information war. 1976AG the same answer. Triandafillov hardly understood the possibilities of modern communication and network centrics at all. If at all I realized that when something like this would become not just possible, but quite technically realized. You will not argue that obtaining information from anywhere in the world practically online at that time was complete nonsense.
  • the finish
    the finish 6 October 2020 16: 32
    +6
    ⚡️Two parties of militants from Pakistan and Afghanistan will be transferred to Azerbaijan⚡️
    This is reported by sources @wargonzo in Istanbul, the very ones who were the first to talk about the presence of mercenaries from Syria in Azerbaijan. As a result, the information was confirmed.
    So, in addition to the statement of the head of the SVR Naryshkin with information - they confirm the following.
    In addition to the Syrian "jihadists", Baku is going to attract up to 1000 militants from Central Asia for the operation on the Karabakh front.
    We are talking about mercenaries from Pakistan and Afghanistan. Naturally - religious radicals.
    We at @wargonzo do not think this is surprising, because besides Turkey, Baku has close military ties with Islamabad. In Pakistan, Azerbaijan buys weapons and trains individual military specialists.
    In turn, our source in Istanbul explains the transfer of these militants by the fact that the Azerbaijani military cannot cope with fierce close combat, which sometimes reaches hand-to-hand combat. There is no motivation. "Jihadists" are another matter, who are ready to die for their radical religious beliefs.
    In addition, certain misunderstandings arose between Aliyev and Erdogan. Aliyev did not fulfill his promise to the President of Turkey to end the blitz-krieg war
    1. svoit
      svoit 6 October 2020 16: 56
      +2
      But isn't Aliyev aware that promising does not mean getting married? And they wait for the promised three years? You don't have to worry about the blitzkrieg, no one counted on it and it was unlikely that it was possible
  • The popuas
    The popuas 6 October 2020 16: 33
    +6
    Everybody declares, shows concern ... So bomb or shoot down! Or bearded ones in Transcaucasia are not as dangerous as in the Middle East ... request
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 37
      +8
      Perhaps an official statement by the SVR is a voicing of intentions for their destruction.
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 6 October 2020 16: 41
        11
        For me, in this case, you have to act like the Israelis, first destroy, and then declare!
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 43
          +6
          Russia’s strikes against terrorists will not go unnoticed, so it must be officially substantiated.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 6 October 2020 18: 08
            +4
            Quote: 1976AG
            Russia’s strikes against terrorists will not go unnoticed, so it must be officially substantiated.

            There, the Armenians are not bad with these "homeless people". More than a hundred "tourists" have already been contracted. Yesterday somewhere they posted the correspondence of one of the survivors, who tearfully unsubscribed to his brothers-in-arms in Syria in the sense that hell is going on where he came and almost everyone with whom he was already killed, and therefore he wants to go home, fight "the old fashioned way" - had breakfast , went to shoot, Allah Akbar shouted, received money for the day, returned home, fell in love with his wife because it didn't work out with the gurias, and so on. Compared to Karabakh, routine ...
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 48
          +8
          Quote: Popuas
          For me, in this case, you have to act like the Israelis, first destroy, and then declare!

          Definitely a winning tactic.
          1. Aag
            Aag 6 October 2020 21: 36
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Popuas
            For me, in this case, you have to act like the Israelis, first destroy, and then declare!

            Definitely a winning tactic.

            And mind you, they are scolded, admired by them, surprised by their successes in one area or another, hated for show, or latent ... And they quietly go their own way ... And the point, IMHO, is not in the state protectorate ...
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 7 October 2020 02: 10
              0
              IMHO the matter is also in the protectorate. How long did Gaddaffe hold out without a protectorate? And the guy first seemed to be on the way to success. So are the Israelites. They are strong exactly as long as their older brother stands behind them. They will definitely not be able to pull the entire Muslim East on their own. But the fact that they skillfully use this protectorate, here I can not argue.
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 6 October 2020 16: 43
        +3
        Quote: 1976AG
        Perhaps an official statement by the SVR is a voicing of intentions for their destruction.

        The whole world has been voicing this for a week. Just got it ?! Come on!
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 44
          +7
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          Quote: 1976AG
          Perhaps an official statement by the SVR is a voicing of intentions for their destruction.

          The whole world has been voicing this for a week. Just got it ?! Come on!

          Of course, not only did it come to light, it's just that such statements are simply not made.
          1. Rusticolus
            Rusticolus 7 October 2020 02: 16
            +1
            I agree. The statement appeared only after the emergence of unconditional evidence. And the fact that they could have crowed high-likes much earlier is a no brainer. But this is not the SVR style.
      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        Perhaps an official statement by the SVR and is a voicing of intentions to destroy them

        A similar hope slipped through, too. But how can this be practically implemented? Unlike Syria, the battle formations of the Barmaley in Karabakh will, for example, be covered by the Azerbaijani air defense. Barmaley will be mixed with the Azerbaijani military. Etc. etc. To work on the barmaley from the air, you will first have to take out this air defense, and then knead the barmaley together with the sons of Azerbaijan. This is already a war not with the barmaley, but with Azerbaijan.
        So here, most likely, our "confrontation with terrorists" will result (if it will be realized at all) only in the supply of arms to Armenia and, perhaps, the arrival of a small number of "vacationers" from the Russian Federation.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 50
          -1
          Yes, it is very difficult and dangerous from the air. Apparently it will have to be targeted by missiles of various classes ...
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 18: 27
            -2
            Quote: 1976AG
            Apparently it will have to be targeted by missiles of various classes ...

            Where to beat? How can we conduct reconnaissance for "pinpoint strikes" if the sky is closed to us?
            If you draw analogies with the strikes of the Jews against allegedly Iranian targets in Syria, then it is completely in vain. Firstly, the Jews are already at war with Syria, so the real "precision" of their blows will not make the relationship between the two countries worse. Secondly, our "partners" (no one forbids them to do so) constantly fly over the territory of Syria in reconnaissance missions, who freely leak the collected information to Israel. And even in these conditions, something is not visible that Iran in a panic withdraws its own from Syria. The military effectiveness of these strikes is questionable. They are rather of a ritual nature. This is typical for states with a corresponding system of "values", but absolutely useless for us.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 30
              -1
              Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Quote: 1976AG
              Apparently it will have to be targeted by missiles of various classes ...

              Where to beat? How can we conduct reconnaissance for "pinpoint strikes" if the sky is closed to us?
              If you draw analogies with the strikes of the Jews against allegedly Iranian targets in Syria, then it is completely in vain. Firstly, the Jews are already at war with Syria, so the real "precision" of their blows will not make the relationship between the two countries worse. Secondly, our "partners" (no one forbids them to do so) constantly fly over the territory of Syria in reconnaissance missions, who freely leak the collected information to Israel. And even in these conditions, something is not visible that Iran in a panic withdraws its own from Syria. The military effectiveness of these strikes is questionable. They are rather of a ritual nature.

              That is why I say that the situation is very difficult ...
              1. Rusticolus
                Rusticolus 7 October 2020 02: 21
                0
                And you are not thinking about that. Here, something so not frail coalition begins to gather against Azerbadzhan + Turks. You are thinking how to perform this technically ... yes, throw chao as an option. For example French. (no matter what they have). It looks like everything is more complicated here, and the muddy will go into the second Libya. Where it is not clear who is against whom judging by the blocks ... NATO / ODKB. Even with the CSTO it is not clear. Pashinyan was very eager to get out of it. And the fact that NATO France and Turkey will stir up their muddied up in NATO there is for sure.
    2. Dikson
      Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 54
      +1
      The Turks have already insured themselves against knocking down - they have transferred their S-400 to the Black Sea .. now we have to watch for ourselves so that the next tomatoes are not drunk at the bloody expense of the Russian-Turkish friendship ...
    3. Grits
      Grits 6 October 2020 17: 02
      +3
      Quote: Popuas
      Everybody declares, shows concern ... So bomb or shoot down! Or bearded ones in Transcaucasia are not as dangerous as in the Middle East ..

      To please Aliyev that he takes out all the barmaley from the country within 24 hours. Otherwise, a counter-terrorist operation begins. Ready or not, here I come.
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 6 October 2020 21: 15
        +2
        Alexander, I agree with you, this is the only way, and if the regular parts of Azerbaijan fall under the batch, only Aliyev will be to blame. There is no time to sort, like chewing snot and expressing concern, perplexity, etc.
        1. Grits
          Grits 7 October 2020 07: 08
          +1
          Quote: VALERIK_097
          Alexander, I agree with you, this is the only way, but if the regular parts of Azerbaijan fall under the batch, only Aliyev will be to blame for this.

          So that's the whole point.
      2. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 7 October 2020 02: 26
        0
        Moreover, for the operation it is necessary to gather a coalition of all who are for. To hell with him with a markon, he pounded to the left to Tikhanovskaya, but here it is definitely not a sin to attach him at the same time.
  • fn34440
    fn34440 6 October 2020 16: 39
    13
    Not weakly, the Turkish Fuhrer, caught on a kukan, Aliyev, the son of the Chairman of the KGB of the USSR., Tying him up with former ISIS members (who were in the graves?).
    Such a shame. How ours, now with this corrupt ... will communicate?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 44
      +5
      The same as with the rest of the corrupt ones.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 6 October 2020 17: 14
      +2
      I talked to the junta from 404.
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 6 October 2020 17: 14
      +6
      Quote: fn34440
      Not weakly Turkish Fuhrer, caught Aliev's son on the kukan

      Yes, Ilham, of course, made a big mistake following Erdogan's lead and recruiting Syrian militants to conduct hostilities. Now Armenia has a trump card - they are fighting against world terrorism, of which Aliyev is an accomplice. If the SVR of Russia already makes such a statement, then most likely Russia will begin to provide assistance to Armenia in the fight against terrorists, although before that Russia did not interfere and only called for negotiations and a ceasefire. I will not be surprised that IL-76 transports will fly through Iran with weapons for Yerevan.
  • askort154
    askort154 6 October 2020 16: 43
    +7
    Erdogan brazenly climbs into the Transcaucasus, the age-old fiefdom of Russia, and the whole world has become quiet, stocked up on popcorn and is waiting for how Russia will behave? After all, Armenia is a member of the CSTO!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 16: 56
      +4
      But Nagorno-Karabakh is not a member.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 6 October 2020 17: 11
      0
      What is the reason to launch the CSTO protocols? The war is going on in NKR, not in Armenia. Fight on de jure Azerbaijani territory with the Azerbaijani Armed Forces? Give Baku to Turkey? Losing a creditworthy economic partner amid falling oil prices and the global economy as a whole? Get a full-scale war against Assad in Syria? Not smart. A balanced peacekeeping policy, together with contacts with both warring parties, will consolidate the position of the Russian Federation in the Transcaucasus and move the Turks. All power options will lead to image, financial, political and human losses for the Russian Federation.
      1. the finish
        the finish 6 October 2020 17: 34
        -1
        All that you said well! And what about the imported and arriving militants? Some part will remain.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 46
          +1
          Quote: finish
          All that you said well! And what about the imported and arriving militants? Some part will remain.

          But let those who have all the information on the situation and who have the appropriate resources think about this.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 October 2020 18: 25
          0
          Some part of the Chechen fighters lives in Georgia and Azerbaijan. Do we feel them strongly? In addition, the survivors will be transported, for the most part, to Idlib and Libya, and I don't know where else. These are people who are provided with work by great uncles, and in Shiite and secular Azerbaijan they simply have nothing to do.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 52
        -1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        A balanced peacekeeping policy, together with contacts with both belligerents, will consolidate the position of the Russian Federation in the Transcaucasus and move the Turks.

        Yeah. Already fixed and moved. Only you confused us and the Turks in places.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 October 2020 18: 31
          0
          Let me remind you that most of the weapons - from small arms to artillery, tank and combat aircraft and helicopters - are still Russian-made.
          In addition, at the end of 2019, the trade turnover between Azerbaijan and Russia amounted to $ 3,022 billion, which is the highest figure in the last ten years. At the same time, the republic has a negative trade balance with the Russian Federation in the amount of $ 1,555 billion. They buy more from the Russian Federation.
          As for the niche of Turkey - precision weapons such as drones, probably clothing, medicine and, of course, cultural expansion - behind it. But this is natural. They have one language - films, books, tourism. There is nothing to be done about this, and it is not necessary.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 18: 49
            -1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Remind you

            So this is the very "balanced policy". And what is happening today is its result.

            Quote: Krasnodar
            They have one language - films, books, tourism. There's nothing you can do about it

            Read how the same Bagirov solved this issue.
            Or as the supporters of Musavat, who were destroyed by him, wanted to decide.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 6 October 2020 18: 55
              0
              Well, what's the result? )) Aliyev chose the optimal time for him to rally the nation on a general consensus (return of territories), due to the fall in oil prices and the economy in general in connection with the pandemic. What do you suggest about Bagirov? Attach Azerbaijan to Russia and arrange a "great terror" there? laughing
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 19: 27
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                what is the result?

                Until the collapse of the Soviet Union, Azerbaijan remained one of the quietest republics in terms of lifting skis from it. And when the "parade of sovereignties" began, Azerbaijan practically did not show any personal enthusiasm and impatience in this regard, unlike Armenia itself.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 6 October 2020 19: 45
                  -2
                  AND? Your suggestions? To include the country in Russia for the sake of ...? Under the Soviet Union, interethnic slaughter has already begun there. And now you want to include, and without asking the Azerbaijanis themselves, this country into Russia? laughing
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 21: 02
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Your suggestions?

                    It is necessary to decide with Turkey.
                    To begin with, while the Turks and their barmaley are having fun in Azerbaijan, we should, having insured ourselves with the appropriate deployment of forces in the event of a major war, tightly resolve the Turkish issue in Syria and Libya. Then they will return to Transcaucasia and fix the status quo that had developed by that time. If necessary, by military methods.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 6 October 2020 21: 22
                      -1
                      And how do you think to firmly resolve the Turkish issue in Syria, when the access to the Black Sea is controlled by the Turks? And in Libya?
                      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 22: 41
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        access to the Black Sea controlled by the Turks?

                        The earth is round. Well, the very ban on the passage of our military courts, if we are not officially at war with Turkey, should be regarded as a violation of the convention, for the acceptable provisions of which we were ready to fight at all times.
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 6 October 2020 23: 05
                        -2
                        So you want to fight in Syria and Libya with the hands of the military units of these countries? laughing Well - that changes everything. More precisely, it won't change anything hi
                      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 23: 35
                        -1
                        You imagined something wrong
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 6 October 2020 23: 58
                        -1
                        And you decided to knock the Turks out of Idlib with the forces of the MTR and what is in Khmeimim? Or, while there is no war, to transfer a sufficient number of military contingents to Syria and start fighting against them? ))
                      5. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 00: 46
                        0
                        Closed straits, without options, will have to be opened.
                        But so far this is not the case, and why not import through them? And besides, there is Gibraltar and BTA. Arming the allies, redeploying troops and accumulating the necessary materiel at a given point in space is by no means an impossible task. And something, obviously, has already been accumulated.
                      6. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 01: 04
                        -2
                        Ok, we have saved up a contingent
                        We pulled up the Baltic and Black Sea fleets
                        AND? Start a strike by the Russian army on the Turkish zone of interest without air superiority?
                      7. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 01: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        without air superiority?

                        And by all means tie one hand behind your back.
                        The operation is carried out against the TNC and Syrian militants. Where did they get their air superiority?
                        If Turkey is interfering in the conflict, why should we work against them only from Khmeimim? On the same Krymsk, SU-30s are based with a combat radius that allows all of Turkey to pass through and through. I pointed out at the very beginning that the operation was being carried out against the background of readiness for a major war.
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 01: 33
                        -1
                        In my opinion, a scam
                        In response, the Turks can start working on the SAA with combat aviation and artillery.
                        Where this will lead is not clear
                        And maybe even more fun - they will score on Syria and, at the invitation of the Azerbaijani government, will go to Karabakh. And everything is kosher with tz. international law - help the fraternal people to de-occupy their lands. RF actions?
                      9. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 01: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        the Turks can start working on the SAA with combat aviation and artillery

                        They will immediately have no time for CAA
                      10. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 01: 38
                        -2
                        And maybe even more fun - they will score on Syria and, at the invitation of the Azerbaijani government, will go to Karabakh. And everything is kosher with tz. international law - help the fraternal people to de-occupy their lands. RF actions? The answer is parallel))
                      11. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 01: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        RF actions?

                        Let's calmly finish with Libya and Syria.

                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        kosher with t. international law

                        The right to secession (self-determination), for example, is violated in this case. Meanwhile, world practice has repeatedly put it above the right of sovereignty.
                        Plus, the same European Parliament considers the moment of determining the final status of the NKR - not come.
                      12. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 09: 49
                        -1
                        Yes, but - in Libya, the influence of Ankara is minimized, Syria will restore its integrity (partially) and it will start negotiations with some unknown person on restoration (with those who have more money, the question is on what conditions), Armenia will finally move away from Russia, Azerbaijan will go to Turkish camp. The European Parliament is not particularly interested in this issue (with the exception of France), and the opinion of this organization is not interesting to the States. The question is - having spent a lot of money and lives, what is the profit of the Russian Federation? In strengthening the Turks at their borders for the sake of Erdogan in the BV and North Africa? ))
                      13. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 11: 58
                        -1
                        Someone Iraq is still "restoring" and is not blowing at the expense of "competition" with someone more generous
                      14. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 12: 28
                        -1
                        So Iraq is restored by the richest)).
                      15. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 12: 33
                        -1
                        This does not mean that their offer is in any way generous.
                      16. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 12: 41
                        0
                        The question is who in the market will be more generous laughing Maybe Foantsuzi, maybe Persians, maybe Russia really - and about "force, impose", etc. - after the liberation of Idlib, Assad will look for money, and the instruments of pressure on him will end immediately after he gains control of the maximum possible Syrian territory. If he wants to take the rest of it from the Americans, he will negotiate with them - the question is how and at what expense hi
                      17. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 13: 42
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        The question is who in the market will be more generous

                        The above example proves that this question can be avoided.
                      18. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 October 2020 14: 42
                        0
                        Excessive generosity? ))))
                        This is the Middle East, no one there can be seriously and permanently controlled. Other realities. How many grandmothers and human lives the USSR drove to Egypt - in 1972 he was asked to leave, because realized that Sinai can be returned only through cooperation with the Americans. Nothing will keep Assad from contacting Amers after the cleansing of Syria, and it is not known how it will go on there. Therefore, the status quo, with reservations, suits Russia very much.
                      19. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 October 2020 05: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Excessive generosity? ))))

                        Is this an example given?

                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        no one there seriously and cannot be controlled for a long time

                        And empires collapse sooner or later. Why try? All is vanity and decay.

                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        the USSR

                        Not the best example to follow in terms of smart work in dependent territories.

                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Nothing will deter Assad from contact with Amers after the cleansing of Syria

                        War with Israel. Well, from the radical. And not from a radical one - just competent all-encompassing work, without relying on agreements with one person.
                      20. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 October 2020 13: 39
                        0
                        There is always a temporary hut. Especially now. We are talking about very young countries - the same Syria in 1943 (de facto born in 1946) and everything around, with the exception of Egypt, Turkey and Iran, is about the same. Gadyushnik.
  • Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 6 October 2020 16: 49
    0
    So what's the matter? And the forces and means are available! Or that the "elite" read the fifth column is afraid of sanctions. All this is somehow wrong.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 6 October 2020 16: 50
    +2
    So the Russian Federation will still have to restore order, the Turkish ... there should be no place on the outskirts of our country.
  • prior
    prior 6 October 2020 16: 56
    +2
    Why are the "barmaley" members of the Azerbaijani army better or worse than the Syrian "barmaley" ?!
    This means we need an anti-terrorist operation in Azerbaijan.
    For example, as Israel does it in Syria with the pro-Iranian Hezbollah - they found, determined the coordinates, gouged them.
    And hello to Aliyev, who warmed them up at the suggestion of Turkey.
  • dzvero
    dzvero 6 October 2020 16: 57
    -3
    Three big players have made a not weak statement and it is very likely that they have decided on the evil of omission. I will not be surprised if the next step is to declare Azerbaijan and Turkey as terrorist states, if they do not agree to a ceasefire.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 02
      0
      States will not be declared terrorist, but they can authorize strikes.
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 October 2020 17: 58
      0
      Quote: dzvero
      I would not be surprised if the next step is to declare Azerbaijan and Turkey as terrorist states, if they do not agree to a ceasefire.

      You accept the statements of certain players for their true position - absolutely in vain.
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 6 October 2020 18: 50
        0
        There are only interests, and at the moment they coincided on a specific problem. Armenia has already announced its agreement to the negotiations, immediately after the joint statement of Trump, Macron and Putin. Azerbaijan - no, Turkey - too. So the heavyweights have laid out the next trump card. They will press. Aliyev and Erdogan have practically no moves. A small victorious war did not work out. If they are stubborn, they may first run into sanctions. First economic, and then, perhaps, personal as accomplices of terrorism. On the next branch, they quote the words of the Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu - he calls for the justice of the Azerbaijani cause and already agrees to the settlement of the conflict. And just a day ago, Erdogan boasted that no one would order him ...
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 October 2020 00: 52
          0
          Quote: dzvero
          There are only interests, and at the moment they coincided on a specific problem

          There are always many interests. For example, "containment" of Russia. Yes, NATO should clap its hands to Turkey's advance towards our borders. But we must pretend that we feel sorry for the Armenians. Otherwise, Soros will have problems with the Armenians.
  • the finish
    the finish 6 October 2020 16: 59
    +3
    Iran has warned the belligerents that it will not tolerate the "arrival" of shells on its territory from the conflict zone in Karabakh and will take more stringent measures in the event of a repeat of recent incidents.
    Note that one of Tehran's possible reactions may be the destruction of the position from which the shelling took place.
  • Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 6 October 2020 17: 05
    +9
    If they know that the Turks are bringing in terrorists, then why aren't they kicked out? Or business interests: Akkuyu, Turkish Stream and tomatoes outweighed the threat of terrorism?
  • don-1500
    don-1500 6 October 2020 17: 08
    0
    Quote: 1976AG
    Even though you choose partners, don't choose, it doesn't affect anything. They just are, whether we like it or not.

    That is, in your opinion, conducting your own "game" in foreign policy is impossible? Even for a country like Russia? You need to be firmer in matters of principle initially, so that there would be no problems later.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 20
      -2
      And we are playing our own game.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 6 October 2020 17: 09
    +5
    Colonel Cassad reports that a draft resolution has been submitted to the US Congress condemning the actions of Turkey and Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh and positioning them as the culprits of the war.

    So close to complicity in terrorism and sanctions. And if the undersultan still has a chance to get away with it, the Azerbaijanis will fully cut off American love.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 18: 44
      0
      Yeah, and the US will have a reason to send troops and "tickle" Aliyev ...
      1. ArioN
        ArioN 6 October 2020 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Yeah, and the US will have a reason to send troops and "tickle" Aliyev ...

        It is quite possible Victor! Like peacekeepers and create a military base, there is Iran nearby ..
        Then it will be "fun" to all the warring parties .. This is the main danger of all this mess
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 October 2020 20: 58
          0
          Yes, and the United States wants to crawl into Karabakh with a quiet glan, and then they will take Armenia under their control ...
  • maktub
    maktub 6 October 2020 17: 17
    0
    It seems to me that the "barmaley" will go to Dagestan after Karabakh
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 25
      +1
      And from there to the used SSR
      1. maktub
        maktub 6 October 2020 17: 40
        0
        Yes, however, far away, Dagestan will be closer, and the caches in the mountains have probably already been prepared and the Turkish intelligence network has been activated
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 42
          +1
          Far away, but appetite comes with eating. The second Chechen war began because Chechnya was not enough for them and they went to Dagestan. Taking Dagestan, they would not have stopped either.
          1. maktub
            maktub 6 October 2020 17: 48
            -1
            That's what I'm talking about, and you are trolling
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 58
              -1
              I have never done this.
              1. maktub
                maktub 6 October 2020 18: 04
                -3
                At the expense of a used SSR, no?
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 18
                  -1
                  Did it hurt you? In my opinion, this should only affect those who are ashamed of the past. And I captured this very past and for me this is the best time of my life ...
                  1. maktub
                    maktub 6 October 2020 20: 21
                    -1
                    It would be more ethical to write the former Ukrainian SSR
                    And to be honest, it does not soar at all.
                    I'll tell you a secret, I even served in the Soviet Army, OL ZabVO
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 6 October 2020 22: 07
          +1
          And therefore in Dagestan a new chief is in command .. - because there "everything is prepared" ... ((
    2. frruc
      frruc 6 October 2020 19: 19
      -1
      The navel will be untied, they will be roasted like pigs on the way.
    3. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 21: 09
      +1
      And this task is before them, they will climb wherever they can ...
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    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 41
      0
      1. Who called them friends?
      2. Why haven't you recognized the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh until now?
  • Tneburashka
    Tneburashka 6 October 2020 17: 33
    -1
    How quickly Barmaley can move at the request of interested persons, and if they had not been cleared in Syria, it’s scary to think
  • 1536
    1536 6 October 2020 17: 36
    +1
    Yes, that's right, that's right. And what should you do? The war is on. Another week or two and the refugees will flee to Russia. What's next? Or is it all according to plan?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 17: 44
      0
      The situation is really difficult. Here you need to calculate everything correctly.
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 6 October 2020 22: 43
      +1
      Start an offensive on Idlib ... Then the "sultan" of all "bearded" men will urgently transfer to the defense of Idlib, even the soldiers of Azeibarjan themselves. Stir up the Kurds, send Haftar to the offensive ... Erdogan has "pet corns" - and beat them!
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 6 October 2020 17: 50
    -1
    nudk must be destroyed, why are we sitting, we are talking, it's time to destroy the columns on the way, otherwise we will have a caliphate here
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 00
      -2
      Quote: opuonmed
      nudk must be destroyed, why are we sitting, we are talking, it's time to destroy the columns on the way, otherwise we will have a caliphate here

      Have you already been given a machine gun? Then go ahead!
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      2. opuonmed
        opuonmed 6 October 2020 18: 05
        -1
        Quote: 1976AG
        Quote: opuonmed
        nudk must be destroyed, why are we sitting, we are talking, it's time to destroy the columns on the way, otherwise we will have a caliphate here

        Have you already been given a machine gun? Then go ahead!

        there is an army and a navy for that!
  • Radikal
    Radikal 6 October 2020 17: 57
    +2
    Ankara's open and unequivocal support for Baku, but Naryshkin's opinion, has a significant impact on the nature of the conflict in Transcaucasia.

    In addition, the armed confrontation between Azerbaijan and Armenia attracts, like a magnet, various groups of radicals, primarily from the Middle East. These people are members of international terrorist organizations. In particular, there is information about the transfer of militants from the Dzhebhat al-Nusra terrorist group to the conflict zone (* banned in the Russian Federation). The head of the SVR says that they have been deployed to Transcaucasia from Syria.
    Such vague, indistinct statements could be expected from the Foreign Ministry, but not from the head of the RF Foreign Intelligence Service. Who is transferring the militants, in what way, in what quantity, where exactly? sad
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 01
      +1
      In Syria, the militants also did not immediately announce detailed information on oil transportation.
    2. Dikson
      Dikson 6 October 2020 22: 11
      +1
      Something he forgot to mention Syria because of his frustration - there, friendly relations with the Turks also seem to have ceased -
      On October 5, the SyriaHR agency reported that the Turkish Armed Forces on the M-4 highway blocked the way for the Russian military in Syria. Then the Russians tried to move deeper into the province of Idlib. In addition to such incomprehensible actions, the Turkish patrol also announced that they would patrol the region themselves, without being accompanied by military personnel from the Russian Federation. It is noted that the Armed Forces of Ankara were on high alert at that moment ... Build another gas pipeline for them, they will start pumping Azeri gas through it soon .. As Armenia gets pushed in Karabakh .., so all the barmaley will come to visit us. We'll eat up in tomatoes .. in zinc packaging .. (((
  • ArioN
    ArioN 6 October 2020 18: 03
    +3
    Is anyone surprised by this? I personally do not, this was to be expected .. They are setting fire to Russia from all sides .. Belarus, now Armenia (CSTO), Kyrgyzstan rustled again .. Who is next?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 6 October 2020 18: 07
      0
      Quote: ArioN
      Is anyone surprised by this? I personally do not, this was to be expected .. They are setting fire to Russia from all sides .. Belarus, now Armenia (CSTO), Kyrgyzstan rustled again .. Who is next?

      at such a pace and in the Russian Federation, something will be set on fire
      1. ArioN
        ArioN 6 October 2020 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: opuonmed
        Quote: ArioN
        Is anyone surprised by this? I personally do not, this was to be expected .. They are setting fire to Russia from all sides .. Belarus, now Armenia (CSTO), Kyrgyzstan rustled again .. Who is next?

        at such a pace and in the Russian Federation, something will be set on fire

        And I am very worried about this, looking at Belarus .. The fifth column does not sleep in Russia, judging by the new one, it’s like in the west they protect it .. I hope it will be enough, God forbid, again, the 90s will only be more bloody
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 18: 42
      +3
      Quote: ArioN
      ..Who is next ?


      This is all training, preparing for our elections ...
      1. ArioN
        ArioN 6 October 2020 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: ArioN
        ..Who is next ?


        This is all training, preparing for our elections ...

        Feels my heart can start even before the election .. In social networks, young people are treated specifically and very cunningly .. You read and wonder how this is all passed even in "our media" ..
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 October 2020 18: 59
          +1
          Anything can happen, but elections are very convenient ...
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  • Xenofont
    Xenofont 6 October 2020 18: 11
    +3
    And why does it not occur to our leaders to give the command to Assad to start an offensive in Idlib? The Sultancheg would immediately have no time for Karabakh and the Nusryat would not go anywhere, but would die prosaically in the distance. A Turk long ago hung all the agreements on Idlib on our nose and chuckled.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 15
      0
      Doesn't it occur to our leaders?
      1. opuonmed
        opuonmed 6 October 2020 18: 21
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        Doesn't it occur to our leaders?

        the game is current it is not clear where it will lead either to collapse or to victory well, or simply do not understand what to do without a pointer from above))))))))))))))) What options do you like most of all? )))
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 6 October 2020 18: 27
          0
          And who should indicate the GDP from above?
          The situation is very difficult, I also do not know how it will end, and unfortunately nothing depends on my opinion.
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 October 2020 18: 41
            +1
            We don't know too much, we hope that the special. services keep track of everything and know what and when to do ...
      2. Xenofont
        Xenofont 6 October 2020 18: 58
        0
        If it comes, only as seditious, because loyalty to a word given even to a bastard is sacred! And even if they have been fooling us for 3 years, we will not back down.
    2. Seal
      Seal 7 October 2020 13: 42
      -1
      All according to plan. And according to the plan, everything has its time. Let the Turks take out more barmaley from Idlib. It turns out well. Azerbaijanis are restoring their sovereignty with the hands and lives of the barmaley throughout the territory of Azerbaijan.
      And the Syrians and we will then calmly restore the full sovereignty of Syria over the entire territory of Syria.
      What's wrong ?
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 19: 03
    -7
    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Quote: fn34440
    Not weakly Turkish Fuhrer, caught Aliev's son on the kukan

    If the SVR of Russia already makes such a statement, then most likely Russia will begin to provide assistance to Armenia in the fight against terrorists, although before that Russia did not intervene, and only called for negotiations and a ceasefire. I will not be surprised that IL-76 transports will fly through Iran with weapons for Yerevan.

    I'll start at the end. Long before the start of hostilities, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan, on the basis of data from the special services, officially announced TENS of Russian Il-76 flights to Armenia and the delivery of about 1500 tons of military cargo to the invader - you are already late.

    Also, the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry brought information to all international organizations about the movement of hundreds of militants of the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK) by Armenia to the occupied territories of Azerbaijan.
    In response to this, just Armenian fakes about Syrian militants in Azerbaijan went, I wrote already here, I repeat once again - airplane carpets are only in Arabic fairy tales, all flights of ordinary aircraft are registered and are publicly available on the Flightradar website, we go in and double-check, and were there dozens of flights from Turkey to Azerbaijan? Here the Armenians got into a puddle because the coronavirus and all flights between the countries were reduced to a minimum, in normal times it might have passed, but now, alas.

    The Russian leadership is not going to leave Armenia to the mercy of fate, everyone is well aware that Russia has plans to intervene at a certain stage, when it will be possible to resolve the issue with Pashinyan, in fact, changing the leadership of Armenia and resolving the conflict so as not to have the risk of war in its underbelly ... But to save Armenia, if it becomes dirty as a state sponsor of terrorism (although much further Armenia is a terrorist state - all terrorist attacks in Azerbaijan were carried out by the Ministry of National Security (KGB) of Armenia) is somehow not comme il faut, and the image of Russia will suffer from this and the Kremlin will be very weak position in the negotiations. Here, as it were, Russia does not need an extra stain on its reputation, but the problem is that it cannot be hidden in a sack, sooner or later either the bodies of Kurdish militants will fall into the hands of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces or the militants will be captured. And on the day when the Azerbaijani army is killing several Kurdish militants, a statement by the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation, Naryshkin, appears.
    In the photo below, what made Naryshkin urgently broadcast about the Syrian militants, well, they did not "spire-forged" and they did without Margosha Simonyan, but thank God, they lied without any hints of non-traditional orientation, in short, they just and modestly lied, and that's good laughing


    The bodies of PKK militants destroyed by the special forces of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh. Published today, the militants are dressed in Armenian unloading. In short, Naryshkin spoke on time, the SVR, at least here, showed efficiency, maybe they will be able to pull the ally out of the dermets, but the only thing is that the fighting continues, the Azerbaijani army will destroy the militants of Kurdish and Armenian terrorist organizations over and over again, but with the Arab militants on the side of Azerbaijan there will be silence ... We'll have to slaughter a couple of students in Patrice Lumumba, or throw the blindfolds from Syria, or things will be completely bad.

    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Quote: fn34440
    Not weakly Turkish Fuhrer, caught Aliev's son on the kukan

    Yes, Ilham, of course, made a big mistake, following Erdogan's lead and recruiting Syrian militants to conduct hostilities. Now Armenia has a trump card - they are fighting against world terrorism, of which Aliyev is an accomplice.
    In light of the above, the conclusions SMILY to put it mildly.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 6 October 2020 19: 20
      0
      In light of the above, the conclusions SMILY to put it mildly.


      The US Congress will smile at you all ... they will accept the declaration and write letters from Guantanamo ... bully
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 6 October 2020 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: VictorM
      I'll start from the end.

      I read your comment and just a few words in response.
      Naryshkin spoke on time, even though the SVR showed efficiency here, maybe they will be able to pull the ally out of the dermets,

      Naryshkin probably reported to Macron about the Syrian militants in Karabakh;
      BRUSSELS, October 1. / TASS /. France has "accurate information" that Syrian militants from Turkey are taking part in hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh. This was announced on Thursday by French President Emmanuel Macron upon his arrival at the EU summit in Brussels. “We have accurate information that indicates that Syrian militants left the battlefield in Gaziantep (a province in southern Turkey - TASS) to join the fighting in Karabakh. This is very serious.
      Long before the start of hostilities, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan, on the basis of data from the special services, officially announced TENS of Russian Il-76 flights to Armenia and the delivery of about 1500 tons of military cargo to the invader - you are already late.

      Well, there can be hundreds of flights to fight the militants, like to Syria, it's not too late.
      The bodies of the PKK militants destroyed by the special forces of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh.

      The same bodies are shown by the Armenians, calling them Syrian militants, doesn't that smile at you?
      We'll have to slaughter a couple of students in Patrice Lumumba, or throw the blindfolds from Syria, or it will be completely bad.

      Cynicism is off the charts, I will not even be like you and write about the Kurds too.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 20: 29
    -2
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    In light of the above, the conclusions SMILY to put it mildly.


    The US Congress will smile at you all ... they will accept the declaration and write letters from Guantanamo ... bully
    Um, well, they will accept what? laughing Firstly, this is the very same thing, it already happened. Secondly, take a look at the map, then figure out how US cargo can get to Afghanistan through Central Asia if Russia denied transit, and in Pakistan there are convoys and you don't rush around through its airfields ... Thirdly, in the Transcaucasus, contrary to rumors so far Russia rules the ball and Armenia was flogged only with its tacit consent, how Pashinyan would, figuratively speaking, sign a surrender, and he has nowhere to go, otherwise, due to his idiocy and miscalculations, several generations of Armenian women will be forced to make baby tours to neighboring countries just to get pregnant for "to give birth to yourself", believe me, this is not a banter, but grief - whatever it is, but the Armenians are our neighbors and will not go anywhere, and we have nothing to share with ordinary people.

    The defeat of Armenia is already practically a reality and it's a matter of a month at most. It is already necessary to think about how to live on, how to normalize relations between Azerbaijan and Armenia, if not immediately, but step by step. In my opinion, if Armenia itself withdraws its troops and liberates the occupied territories, it would be better if Azerbaijan itself appealed to Turkey with a request to open its borders with Armenia, so that it gradually becomes involved in joint regional projects, so that normal, ordinary people have more opportunities to earn money and the maintenance of their families. Perhaps through these projects and business relations, general relations will normalize faster.

    In general, taking into account the board's visit to Yerevan, and Pashinyan's trip to Khankendi, everything can be decided in the next few hours ...
  • Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 6 October 2020 20: 35
    0
    Author! Well, eat your copper, who writes headlines like that ?!
    This is the Head of the Foreign Intelligence Service, or something, forgive me, is he throwing militants, or what? And according to your letters it is! What is so crooked with the great and mighty?
    ... ABOUT THE FACTS ... for example, the transfers ... he stated.
    Well, how can you write like that in a serious publication !? fool
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 6 October 2020 20: 56
    -2
    Azerbaijan is an ASSISTANT OF WORLD TERRORISM. Everyone knows already! And what do they do with them ??? MUCH IN SORTING !!!!
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 21: 19
    +1
    Quote: Misak Hananyan
    Azerbaijan is an ASSISTANT OF WORLD TERRORISM. Everyone knows already! And what do they do with them ??? MUCH IN SORTING !!!!

    Uh-huh ... Get ready to meet your anika warriors and Kurdish fighters. Apparently, if not just about, then from day to day Pashinyan will pull his hairy legs up.

    With anik, everything is clear to the soldiers, even the Armenian militants from Syria and Beirut seem to be their own. But now what will you do with the Kurds - at an expense?

    I wonder what is Pashinyan's fate? Immediately soak in the toilet or fry on a spit on the lane?
  • wmn5500
    wmn5500 6 October 2020 22: 46
    0
    Why is the quote not given in full ?! I will give:
    "According to the information available in the SVR, mercenaries from the international terrorist organizations fighting in the Middle East, in particular, Jabhat al-Nusra, Firkat Khamza, Sultan Murad, are actively moving into the conflict zone. as well as extremist Kurdish groups... Moreover, we are talking about hundreds and even thousands of radicals hoping to make money on the new Karabakh war. "
    And who are the "extremist Kurdish groups" ?! Everyone knows that they are the PKK and they are the antagonists of Turkey. Accordingly, they cannot fight on the side of Turkey-backed Azerbaijan! It turns out that these "extremist Kurdish groups" are simply terrorists fighting against Azerbaijan for Armenia !!!
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 7 October 2020 01: 25
    0
    This is a strange Pashinyan. And he is definitely not an Estonian? The Jews already hinted to him a few days ago, we certainly have our own gesheft from the Azeris, but if they roll the Basmachi from Syria, we do not mind. Even then, this Estonian Armenian had to yell at the whole world with a fool that they were attacked by ISIS *, Nursa *, and Hezbola, with Kurds in addition. It is clear that the amers are not up to their six right now, but it was possible to crow, as if I caught that igil that you didn't finish off! But this macaw is silent as a partisan. Tolley will not be updated to him like a training manual for being busy with his own affairs, or is he really so greedy that he sells his people not even for 30, for 3 pieces of silver, just to drag Russia into this fornication. Yes, not ara, here you did not guess, he himself spat in the direction of Russia, and now go to Nursultan for ODKB or ask Batka. They are the same in ODKB, maybe they even help you with something if you did not spit in them either.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 7 October 2020 02: 23
    -1
    [quote = Anatole Klim]
    I read your comment and just a few words in response.
    Naryshkin probably reported to Macron about the Syrian militants in Karabakh;
    BRUSSELS, October 1. / TASS /. France has "accurate information" that Syrian militants from Turkey are taking part in hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh. This was announced on Thursday by French President Emmanuel Macron upon his arrival at the EU summit in Brussels. “We have accurate information that indicates that Syrian militants left the battlefield in Gaziantep (a province in southern Turkey - TASS) to join the fighting in Karabakh. This is very serious.
    [/ quote] Read the interview with Ilham Aliyev, he talks about telephone conversations with the President of France. In a conversation with him, Macron also tried to put pressure on "the Syrian militants transferred to Azerbaijan" on the basis of "intelligence data", in response he was asked to provide confirmation of his words. As you understand, Ilham Aliyev did not wait for anything from the Frenchman, except for his blah blah, for which he openly accused him of lying in an interview with a foreign channel, and not for the needs of the domestic audience.
    Note that there can be no misunderstanding or misunderstanding - Aliyev is fluent in French.
    [quote = Anatol Klim] The bodies of PKK militants killed by the special forces of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh. [/ quote]
    The same bodies are shown by the Armenians, calling them Syrian militants, does that smile at you? [/ Quote] So far, the Armenians have not officially presented in the media a single photo or video evidence of the presence of Syrian militants on the territory of Azerbaijan, and even more so in the conflict zone.
    At the same time, the Armenian side reports from thousands of those killed from the Azerbaijani side, but where are the militants, where did they evaporate?
    In addition, they need to be managed, because they need to coordinate actions with each other? - need to. Where is the interception of conversations with militants or among themselves? ...

    After all, although the Syrian Turkmens controlled by Turkey are primarily the descendants of our kindred Oghuz tribes, and despite the similarity of our languages ​​to each other, and not to Turkish, they have many expressions from Arabic in their speech and this cannot but be recorded by interception.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 7 October 2020 02: 28
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    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Quote: VictorM
    I'll start from the end.

    I read your comment and just a few words in response.
    Naryshkin spoke on time, even though the SVR showed efficiency here, maybe they will be able to pull the ally out of the dermets,

    Naryshkin probably reported to Macron about the Syrian militants in Karabakh;
    BRUSSELS, October 1. / TASS /. France has "accurate information" that Syrian militants from Turkey are taking part in hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh. This was announced on Thursday by French President Emmanuel Macron upon his arrival at the EU summit in Brussels. “We have accurate information that indicates that Syrian militants left the battlefield in Gaziantep (a province in southern Turkey - TASS) to join the fighting in Karabakh. This is very serious.
    Long before the start of hostilities, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan, on the basis of data from the special services, officially announced TENS of Russian Il-76 flights to Armenia and the delivery of about 1500 tons of military cargo to the invader - you are already late.

    Well, there can be hundreds of flights to fight the militants, like to Syria, it's not too late.
    The bodies of the PKK militants destroyed by the special forces of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh.

    The same bodies are shown by the Armenians, calling them Syrian militants, doesn't that smile at you?
    We'll have to slaughter a couple of students in Patrice Lumumba, or throw the blindfolds from Syria, or it will be completely bad.

    Cynicism is off the charts, I will not even be like you and write about the Kurds too.

    Read the interview of Ilham Aliyev, he talks about telephone conversations with the President of France. In a conversation with him, Macron also tried to put pressure on "the Syrian militants transferred to Azerbaijan" on the basis of "intelligence data", in response he was asked to provide confirmation of his words. As you understand, Ilham Aliyev did not wait for anything from the Frenchman, except for his blah blah, for which he openly accused him of lying in an interview with a foreign channel, and not for the needs of the domestic audience.
    Note that there can be no misunderstanding or misunderstanding - Aliyev is fluent in French.
    There are no facts.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 October 2020 10: 21
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    Judging by Naryshkin's statement, the Kremlin sided with Armenia.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 October 2020 10: 25
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    Judging by Naryshkin's statement, the Kremlin has openly taken a pro-Armenian position.
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 October 2020 10: 37
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      Judging by the circumstances of time, place and mode of action, Moscow did not "take a position", but lost it.
    2. Sovpadenie
      Sovpadenie 7 October 2020 12: 35
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      That is, the choice of whose side depends on the concealment or disclosure of the revealed facts?
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  • Sovpadenie
    Sovpadenie 7 October 2020 12: 36
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    Now we are waiting for responses from the Erdogan + Aliyev tandem. Aliyev burst out with an angry speech against Macron, who stated the same
  • Victorm
    Victorm 11 October 2020 11: 32
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    Another pearl from Pashinyan is proof of the participation of Syrian militants on the side of Azerbaijan.
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2447815055511383

    A source:
    https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/karabah/20201011/24855491/Litso-segodnyashney-voyny-Pashinyan-vylozhil-video-ob-uchastii-terroristov-v-voyne-v-Karabakhe.html

    Um, I thought after Pegov's report, we decided to sing more about the "Turkish special forces" KOTORIY VES IN BLACK laughing
  • Victorm
    Victorm 11 October 2020 11: 41
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    Found a more readable one.
    It can be seen once again loudly shouted about the Syrians, things are really seams.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 11 October 2020 15: 10
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    Quote: VictorM

    Found a more readable one.
    It can be seen once again loudly shouted about the Syrians, things are really seams.

    Stepanakert calls for the creation of an anti-terrorist coalition Russia-Armenia-Iran

    In the short term, the terrorists deployed by Turkey to Azerbaijan threaten Karabakh, in the long term - the entire region, including the civilian population of Azerbaijan itself, the Nagorno Karabakh legislators emphasize.

    YEREVAN, 11 October - Sputnik. The parliament of Nagorno-Karabakh proposes to create an anti-terrorist coalition of Russia, Armenia and Iran. This is stated in a statement on the parliament's official Facebook page.

    Read more: https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/karabah/20201011/24858787/Stepanakert-prizyvaet-sozdat-antiterroristicheskuyu-koalitsiyu-Rossiya--Armeniya-Iran-.html

    "That's the end of the fairy tale, but who was listening to the fellow!" I will continue "The Tale is LIE, but there is a HINT in it, a lesson for good fellows!"
    Well, what can I say, enough time has passed for the Armenian Nazi agitprop, got the opportunity and "nature" for filming or fabricating the next fakes. Purpose ONE - Hi will never fight himself, this is an axiom, another must fight for him. Under such a correct, relevant and on the spite of the day, the call of "the fight against international terrorism", there is only one thought, the Russian Vanya, and now also the Persian, should fight, since together they did it well in Syria, and then solemnly on a bright chariot they should follow His Majesty HI ... laughing
    Now everything depends on HOW MUCH Russian and Persian are interested in the development of this fake, and as a consequence of a small war, in the interests of their own, but also serving the hapless one, and ... his Master, because they had the opportunity to make sure that Russia is in Armenia with Pashinyan at the head not only is not the owner, but not even the authority for her.

    Much has been said about preventing third parties from being drawn into the conflict, preventing the war from spreading beyond the region. Everything would be correct, but then the high will not be easy to beat, but broken.
    Judging by the strike of the OTRK Tochka-U today on the night of October 11 on the residential area of ​​the Ganja mountain, the death and serious injuries of dozens among the civilian population, judging by the convulsive attempts to get into the Mingechevir hydroelectric complex and the Azerbaijan state district power station in the neighborhood, and now there are no more screams and ore about jihadists in Karabakh, the Armenians are really backed against the wall and are well aware that:
    a) they lost the war;
    b) they have almost sat down on the dock for war crimes.