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The Turkish Armed Forces transfer the S-400 air defense system in the Black Sea region

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The Turkish Armed Forces transfer the S-400 air defense system in the Black Sea region

In the Turkish media environment, materials appeared about where exactly the country's military command decided to send the S-400 "Triumph" air defense systems received from Russia earlier. Recall that Turkey to this day is under pressure from the United States, which is trying to dissuade Ankara from deploying the already acquired S-400 air defense systems and from new purchases of such complexes from Russia.


In the Turkish blogosphere, footage has appeared on which you can see the transfer of military equipment. The technique was captured, as stated, in the city of Samsun. It is a 600 thousandth city located on the Black Sea coast.

In the materials of Turkish journalists it is reported that the transfer of the S-400 air defense system in the Black Sea region is due to the fact that military exercises have begun in these territories. During these exercises, the Turkish Armed Forces plan to use various types of aviationincluding the unmanned one. Military maneuvers involving air defense systems will continue in northern Turkey until October 16.


Comments from Turkish journalists on Twitter:

Ironically enough, Turkey will test the S-400 off the Black Sea, right next to Russian territory.

CAATSA is coming ...

For reference: CAATSA is an American sanctions package, which provides restrictions for a country that has contacts with Russia in the military-technical sphere.
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  1. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 6 October 2020 15: 11 New
    16
    As if it did not turn out that our own lard is the same for us.
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 October 2020 15: 18 New
      +6
      Our Zbigniew Brzezinski: "... against Russia, on the ruins of Russia, at the expense of Russia, ..." In general, sama. Erdogan cannot be denied the ability to highlight accents.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 6 October 2020 15: 27 New
        +4
        Firing practice with the C-400 is scheduled for October 20 in the Sinop area.
        1. pytar
          pytar 6 October 2020 19: 29 New
          +4
          Firing practice with the C-400 is scheduled for October 20 in the Sinop area.

          Sinope battle - the defeat of the Turkish squadron by the Russian Black Sea Fleet on November 18 (30), 1853, under the command of Vice Admiral Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov. The battle took place in the harbor of Sinop (about 300 km from Sevastopol) on the Black Sea coast of Turkey. The Turkish squadron was defeated within a few hours.



          Do Turks want to "repeat"? wassat
          1. Antonio_Mariarti
            Antonio_Mariarti 7 October 2020 12: 22 New
            0
            Quote: pytar
            Firing practice with the C-400 is scheduled for October 20 in the Sinop area.

            Sinope battle - the defeat of the Turkish squadron by the Russian Black Sea Fleet on November 18 (30), 1853, under the command of Vice Admiral Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov. The battle took place in the harbor of Sinop (about 300 km from Sevastopol) on the Black Sea coast of Turkey. The Turkish squadron was defeated within a few hours.



            Do Turks want to "repeat"? wassat

            The main thing is not to succeed, as in the Crimean.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 October 2020 17: 34 New
        +6
        Quote: iouris
        Our Zbigniew Brzezinski: "... against Russia, on the ruins of Russia, at the expense of Russia, ..."

        BB Putin to the words of Brzezinski - "If there is no Russia in this world, then why do we need this world." I hope that those involved in the plan to zero Russia heard it.
    2. newcomer
      newcomer 6 October 2020 15: 21 New
      16
      And so it will be. But the 400th Sultan is unlikely to be able to use it against the Russian Federation. But the region itself is boiling a little. Pay attention to the map: there are only outbreaks of regional meat grinders around the Russian Federation. Doesn't it look like anything?
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 October 2020 15: 26 New
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: newbie
        Sound familiar?

        No. What? We are fine. We are successfully fighting the forbidden terrible virus.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 6 October 2020 15: 35 New
          +3
          You are a happy person. I envy, honestly.
          1. iouris
            iouris 6 October 2020 15: 36 New
            -7
            You are not? Then we fly to you! And you will be happy.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 6 October 2020 15: 39 New
              +2
              I will be glad. We are always glad to see guests.
      2. cniza
        cniza 6 October 2020 15: 32 New
        +9
        Quote: newbie
        And so it will be. But the 400th Sultan is unlikely to be able to use it against the Russian Federation. But the region itself is boiling a little. Pay attention to the map: there are only outbreaks of regional meat grinders around the Russian Federation. Doesn't it look like anything?


        This is the implementation of the US plan to create a belt of conflicts around Russia ...
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 6 October 2020 15: 37 New
          +2
          Victor, hi you are as always perspicacious.
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 October 2020 15: 47 New
            +7
            hi
            It's not me, everyone who has watched the US plans for Russia, which is periodically adjusted and does not hide, knows this ...
        2. askort154
          askort154 6 October 2020 16: 14 New
          +5
          cniza ....the conflict belt building in This is the implementation of the US plan for around Russia ...

          This is called the "anaconda loop" with three "squeeze" options
          developed under Reagan. They have already performed two options:
          - "the first compression of the anaconda ring" was the destruction
          Warsaw Pact,
          - "the second compression of the anaconda ring" was the collapse of the USSR.
          - "the third compression of the anaconda ring" - the collapse of Russia is planned,
          on the "splinters", so they burn fires along the perimeter of the border of Russia, in order to tear off all the post-Soviet republics from it. The main focus is on Ukraine, to make it the main bridgehead, since it has the longest border with Russia in the European part (1500 km) and is close to the center of Russia. Moreover, Ukraine
          she is eager to get such a role. Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko have repeatedly stated that Ukraine is Europe's defensive line from Russia. The United States began to realize that it would be impossible to incite the old European NATO against Russia, decided to bet on
          Young NATO members (Poles-Balts) and Ukrainian-Georgians rushing to them. Stubbornly kindling fires around Russia - "the third ring of anaconda"
      3. private person
        private person 6 October 2020 16: 02 New
        +1
        Sound familiar?

        Well, what should it remind? Remind please.
      4. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 6 October 2020 16: 15 New
        -1
        Quote: newbie
        And so it will be. But the 400th Sultan is unlikely to be able to use it against the Russian Federation. But the region itself is boiling a little. Pay attention to the map: there are only outbreaks of regional meat grinders around the Russian Federation. Doesn't it look like anything?

        As a reminder, the Russian Federation is losing its influence at a catastrophic rate, I really would not like to see another Karachun. hi
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 18: 40 New
          -2
          This "karachun" is quite consistent with the infantile foreign policy of the Russian Federation, alas ((
          Internal assertiveness, but in an external channel, it would be good, probably
      5. pytar
        pytar 6 October 2020 19: 38 New
        -3
        The S-400 has a range of 400 - 600 km. From Sinop to Crimea / Sevastopol / about 300 km ... You can be 100% sure that if Erdogan needs it, he will use them. And no alleged bugs in the software / if any / will interfere. The very fact that the exercises are being conducted in the Sinop region, on the Black Sea, indicates who the Turks are training against! Turkey in the Black Sea has no enemy / rival other than Russia!
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 6 October 2020 20: 20 New
          0
          Quote: pytar
          Turkey in the Black Sea has no enemy / rival other than Russia!

          Not in the Black Sea, but with Greece it seems to be aggravated again.
          1. pytar
            pytar 6 October 2020 22: 57 New
            -2
            Not in the Black Sea, but with Greece it seems to be aggravated again.

            From Greece around Cyprus to the Mediterranean Sea. Directly opposite direction.
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 8 October 2020 11: 45 New
              0
              Quote: pytar
              From Greece around Cyprus to the Mediterranean Sea. Directly opposite direction.

              The Greeks don't think so.
              https://topwar.ru/175896-turcija-mogla-aktivirovat-s-400-dlja-otslezhivanija-samoletov-sojuznika-po-nato-v-presse-grecii-prizvali-projasnit-situaciju.html
              1. pytar
                pytar 8 October 2020 14: 23 New
                0
                The Greeks don't think so.

                Quote: "Greek media discussing statements and personnel from Turkey, where it was noted how the S-400 Triumph air defense systems purchased from Russia are sent through the city of Samsun to the Black Sea training ground to participate in military maneuvers. It became known that in the Greek press now there have been calls to the country's authorities to find out the following:Turkey could activate the Russian air defense system to track the aircraft of a NATO ally. Is it so?"
                It is about journalistic speculation. Just look at the map, the answer is obvious! If zyablik.olga (Olga), the rights and the radius of destruction is 250 km., And the radars open targets at 600 km., Then the S-400 does not reach Greece (the easternmost Greek islands). But the S-400 radar covers the entire Crimean Peninsula and a significant part of the Krasnodar Territory! Almost all the Black and Azov seas are under supervision!
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 8 October 2020 18: 45 New
                  0
                  Why are you showing me a map? I had 5 in geography at school. These are teachings. Turks can train in one place, and apply for purposes in another. So the Greeks are worried. And rightly so.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 8 October 2020 19: 38 New
                    -1
                    Why are you showing me a map? I had 5 in geography at school.

                    It is unlikely that in school geography maps show the range of the S-400 with reference to a specific event. The event that is written about in the article.
                    These are teachings. Turks can train in one place, and apply for purposes in another.

                    Of course, but still back to the stat: "It's ironic enough that Turkey will test the S-400 off the Black Sea, right next to Russian territory."
                    Exercises are usually held in some area, just to practice combat operations in this area.
                    So the Greeks are worried. And rightly so.

                    The map shows that in vain. But if the S-400 are closer to the Aegean Sea, then it is worth worrying.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 8 October 2020 21: 06 New
                      0
                      Quote: pytar
                      The map shows that in vain. But if the S-400 are closer to the Aegean Sea, then it is worth worrying.

                      Is it really impossible to transport the S-400? Today at the Black Sea, tomorrow at the Aegean. Already with experience in shooting practice.
        2. zyablik.olga
          zyablik.olga 7 October 2020 00: 31 New
          +1
          Maximum 380 km for low-maneuverable targets at high altitude. And this is when using new missiles with ARLGSN. The missiles supplied to Turkey have a firing range of no more than 250 km.
        3. Essex62
          Essex62 7 October 2020 20: 04 New
          0
          No, our dear Bulgarian friend, the Sultan will not be able to use the S-400 against the Russian Federation. Technically, and he is unlikely to decide on a direct conflict. The returns will not be comparable to the possible acquisitions. Such a beast, the Ottomans, so far, are too tough. Only Buddha knows what will happen when macaros fit on the Kremlin stool.
          1. pytar
            pytar 8 October 2020 09: 42 New
            0
            Disappointing data on the configuration of the S-400 air defense system ammunition supplied by the Turkish Air Force. Own goal or a long-range contract?
            https://topwar.ru/175881-neuteshitelnye-dannye-o-konfiguracii-boekompletov-zrk-s-400-postavlennyh-vvs-turcii-gol-v-svoi-vorota-ili-kontrakt-s-dalnim-pricelom.html
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 6 October 2020 15: 29 New
      -1
      Well, we will find a "scrap" against our own С400, the main thing is that the Turks do not allow the US to approach them, or do not give them the information requested by С400.
    4. KCA
      KCA 6 October 2020 15: 30 New
      +5
      The times of unrestrained kissing with the West in the gums are long gone, I would not be surprised if the backdoor in the export S-400 is of such size that you can enter a tank without bending down
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 6 October 2020 16: 17 New
        -8
        There is no backdoor, Turkey in its right mind would not buy such a weapon, but the second one will be easy to find and publish.
        They say that the F-35 has something similar, but there countries that buy them immediately sign commitments on software updates and remote control, but it could also be OBS.
        1. KCA
          KCA 6 October 2020 16: 41 New
          +5
          Come on, and how do you find the backdoor? You are just a genius, there is a problem for the whole world, but you are straightforward and "easy to find", it is easy to find something that will be hung in front of your eyes, and to scan the entire software complex that is used in the air defense system is not enough life, especially since they do not write it in BASIC or Pascal, but in a specially developed programming language, no one will ever give you its commands and operators, will you analyze the binary code? Good luck, we'll meet in 100500 years, tell us where the ambush was
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 6 October 2020 17: 01 New
            -4
            Come on, and how do you find the backdoor? You are just a genius, a problem for the whole world, and you

            And who said that for the whole world this problem is a question of the price and the amount of attracted resources, I think that the United States will reverse-engineer the S-400 supplied to Turkey, but this is not a great tragedy. The second direction of the "backdoor" is also clear where to look, it is the possibility of remotely shutting down the complex, but I believe that it is not there in principle, this is stupid and a huge risk, the opened backdoor exposes all buyers of weapons. Or you need to immediately stipulate in the contract that the manufacturer has the ability to remotely turn off the complex, according to such and such a crypto protocol.

            that they write it not in BASIC or Pascal, but in a specially developed programming language

            What does a high-level programming language have to do with reverse engineering, especially since I would bet that they use C well, maybe now C ++ (although in my time only C and assembler)

            you will analyze the binary code

            Believe it or not, this is exactly what they do, when they can still reverse layer photos, but of course there are tools for common architectures that translate binary code into assembler commands, can build various visualizations that simplify the analysis. I do not know what processor architecture is used specifically in the S-400 systems, but all the processors that are developed / produced in Russia or on Russian orders in Taiwan are known.
            1. KCA
              KCA 6 October 2020 17: 20 New
              +4
              Why suddenly x86 OS will be used in Russian air defense systems? Everything is wrong there, no disassembler can cope, layered photo of what? Chips? Algorithms will also be removed from the photo? If there is a goto command in the assembler, then how the disassembler recognizes the command "And run bl ..!". For military systems, there is no need for mega-super-super-processors, which are ordered for SMTC, the F-22 flies under the control of i80386DX 40MHz, and Micron will be enough to create something like that with a margin of 100
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 6 October 2020 17: 38 New
                -1
                Why suddenly x86 OS will be used in Russian air defense systems?
                What is x86 OS? x86 is the architecture on which which OS can run. But in general, these are independent entities.

                Everything is wrong there, no disassembler can cope, layered photo of what? Chips?

                Of course they will, and they do so you can google microsem reengineering from a photo, for example, the simplest one http://www.righto.com/2013/09/understanding-z-80-processor-one-gate.html

                here, for example, the reverse of Leica https://alexhude.github.io/2019/01/24/hacking-leica-m240.html one person did it /

                Algorithms will also be removed from the photo?
                These algorithms were given to you, as if only in Russia specialists in DSP, radar, etc., our "partners" are more interested in the capabilities of the assembly complex. Reverse itself without design documentation is not pleasant, but not critical, unless the reversers find an obvious bug that can be exploited, which is unlikely. Moreover, I repeat, our “partners” can experience the complex, however they like, get any parameters they want.

                For military systems, there is no need for mega-super-super-processors, which are ordered for SMTC, the F-22 flies under the control of the i80386DX 40MHz, and Micron will be enough to create something like that with a margin of 100 years
                I agree that many algorithms are implemented in hardware and the military does not need multitouch.

                F-22 flies under the control of i80386DX 40MHz, similar to create enough and "Micron" with a margin of 100 years
                The easier it is to reverse.

                But the F-22 is large and the carrying capacity is solid, but for the UAV you already need to shrink and you need a modern element base.

                As for the reverse, the planted American drone helped Iran a lot in its program.
                1. KCA
                  KCA 6 October 2020 17: 54 New
                  -1
                  "Cut" the western MSX (reverse engineered) the USSR, but even opening the internal processor commands will not give any idea about the system in general, especially, as is customary with us, there is no full CPU priority, there are spaced controllers
                  1. Airdefense
                    Airdefense 6 October 2020 17: 58 New
                    -2
                    We are now, what are we arguing about, about the possibility of finding tabs that allow remote control / shutdown of the complex or reverse it until a full analogue of the CD is obtained and the possibility of organizing the production of copies?
                    I'm talking about the first, the second does not make much sense, in terms of money it will be comparable to developing a complex from scratch.
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 October 2020 15: 48 New
      -3
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      As if it did not turn out that our own lard is the same for us.

      So what? The Turks at their own expense will test the S-400 in combat conditions, however, on our own aircraft.
    6. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 October 2020 15: 56 New
      +3
      I am more than sure that the developers have included in the export version of the S-400 (especially for such a "friend" as Turkey) a certain number of "tabs". Moreover, this is a constant practice of manufacturers of high-tech weapons. Russian scientists are no more stupid than Western ones. So, on the issue of the use of Russian anti-aircraft systems by the Turks against Russia, I somehow do not worry too much.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 6 October 2020 16: 12 New
        -5
        It will be stupidity and a blow to prestige, if such bookmarks are made public, and if they exist, then it is a matter of time to find them, then Russia will have to restore its credibility as a supplier of reliable weapons for a long time.
        Moreover, as now I don’t know, but 15 years ago, export options, at the request of the customer, could be completed from foreign components, in particular computing modules.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 6 October 2020 16: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: Airdefense
          from foreign components, in particular computing modules

          The fact of the matter is that one of the "chips" of modern air defense systems is not at all in "sophisticated electronics" (in which Russia allegedly lags behind), but in the algorithm for processing signals for target detection, control and guidance. I'll tell you a "secret" that military computing technology is radically different from the one we are used to. It has its own software, its own "configuration" and its own electronic filling (besides, it is filled with compound and is often designed to self-destruct with unauthorized access). I'm afraid that Western "computing modules" won't help there. As one character said, "they have the wrong system of grenades."
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 6 October 2020 16: 36 New
            -5
            I'll tell you a "secret" that military computing technology is radically different from the one we are used to.

            I don’t need to say) and may not be fundamentally different.

            C It has its own software, its own "configuration" and its own electronic filling (besides, it is filled with a compound and is often designed for self-destruction with unauthorized access). I'm afraid that Western "computing modules" will not help there.

            Software of its own, but amenable to reverse engineering.

            its own electronic filling (moreover, filled with a compound and often designed for self-destruction with unauthorized access). I'm afraid that Western "computing modules" will not help there.

            Why do you think the T-90 in Syria didn’t explode, its electronics didn’t turn into brick when the barmaley captured it? The answer is simple, because there is no self-destruction system, it is pointless and moreover dangerous, the complexity of the system, the cost of maintenance increases many times.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 6 October 2020 16: 53 New
              +3
              Quote: Airdefense
              it is pointless and moreover dangerous,

              To destroy electronic components, they do not have to be blown up. It is enough to burn out the chains. What can be done programmatically, or on a signal from the outside. In addition, the electronics on the tank are orders of magnitude simpler, so the example is not entirely successful.
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 6 October 2020 17: 08 New
                0
                Again, I cannot argue how it is now, but earlier self-destruction blocks were considered a senseless complication, the operator himself must take measures to disable the equipment in case of a threat to fall into the hands of the enemy.
                Exceptions can be communication systems from which encryption keys can be extracted, but I did not participate in this, I can only guess that the damage from the enemy gaining the ability to decrypt is many times greater than the installation and maintenance of "self-destruction" systems, so it makes sense to make a system of "oskirpichivaniya" ...
          2. KCA
            KCA 6 October 2020 16: 51 New
            +6
            Compound is cheap, or an export version, I saw microassemblies, they are filled with ceramics, no markings, nothing, the leads stick out in different directions, the operating temperature range is from -50 to +120 degrees, everything from power supplies to processors was filled in, such beautiful ceramics , shiny, gray-violet
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 6 October 2020 16: 54 New
              +4
              Quote: KCA
              beautiful such ceramics, shiny, gray-purple

              Or so, I do not argue. good
    7. frruc
      frruc 6 October 2020 15: 56 New
      +1
      No, they will train on American drones.
    8. APASUS
      APASUS 6 October 2020 16: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      As if it did not turn out that our own lard is the same for us.

      Erdogan is not yet strong enough to quarrel with the Russians. This is, so to speak, a show of strength, purely in the southern mentality.
  2. cniza
    cniza 6 October 2020 15: 20 New
    +3
    Ironically enough, Turkey will test the S-400 off the Black Sea, right next to Russian territory.


    The Sultan is wise, he confuses moves ...
  3. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 6 October 2020 15: 26 New
    0


    Well, by the way. The maximum range of our missiles is 400 km.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 October 2020 15: 48 New
      +3
      Who said that missiles with such a range were supplied to Turkey? As far as I know, we don't have a lot of them either.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 6 October 2020 15: 49 New
        -2
        And who said that they were not delivered?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 6 October 2020 15: 50 New
          +4
          I sooo strongly doubt that there are these missiles in export versions. It turns out to be a very tasty dish.
          In addition, in order to shoot at a distance of 400 km, external target designation is needed; the S-400 ground radar will see only highly high-altitude targets at such a distance.
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 6 October 2020 16: 21 New
            -1
            I can put it, in the sense that, purely physically, the rocket is capable of flying 400 km, but in order to shoot down something at such distances, additional infrastructure is needed, well, or to attack something very high-altitude.
    2. loki565
      loki565 6 October 2020 16: 02 New
      -2
      Well, by the way. The maximum range of our missiles is 400 km.

      and the C 300 will have a range of 300 km? in real life it will be smaller)))
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 6 October 2020 17: 14 New
      0
      There, the Russian Federation and the Turks have no confrontation either.
  4. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 27 New
    +1
    Turkish Gambit?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 15: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Turkish Gambit?

      Erdogan is bombed.
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 October 2020 15: 48 New
        +6
        Soon he will start to sausage not childishly ...
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 6 October 2020 15: 54 New
          +4
          So he never ceased to be sausage from the moment of the attempted armed coup.
          Now he cannot part with the power.
          In order to retain power, he needs to become victorious.
          And did he have at least one really serious victory?
          Other than suppressing the coup, I can't remember.
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 October 2020 16: 03 New
            +3
            If only the agony does not begin or the mania, then the wood will chop ...
  5. fn34440
    fn34440 6 October 2020 15: 42 New
    +5
    The exercise, during which the Turkish military plans to test the S-400 purchased from Russia, will be held at the Sinop missile range from October 5 to 16. It is assumed that the air defense systems will have to hit ten air targets. At the same time, the military must receive permission to launch each missile personally from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    From July 29 to August 10, Turkey held joint military exercises with Azerbaijan. They involved artillery installations, armored vehicles, combat and transport helicopters of the Air Force, air defense forces and anti-aircraft missile units of the armies of Azerbaijan and Turkey. The maneuvers were also carried out near the border with Armenia. Pashinyan and his General Staff were not alarmed by this.
    Maybe our General Staff will draw conclusions from the mistakes of Armenia of the brilliant commander Pashinyan, a little distracted from the construction of pompous religious buildings and the development of the Ministry's inexhaustible budget for the construction of covid hospitals.?
    And the question is: is it worth exporting Covid-19 from Turkey, sending tens of thousands of unreasonable Russian hostages, potential ones, to slaughter.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 6 October 2020 16: 04 New
      0
      Quote: fn34440
      S-400 purchased from Russia will be held at the Sinop missile range

      This is the northernmost part of Turkey, in the center of the Black Sea. Sevastopol, Simferopol, Novorossiysk, Sochi are located in the 400 km zone of this region. There is much more insistence to other countries.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 6 October 2020 16: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        This is the southernmost part of Turkey, n

        north
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 6 October 2020 16: 13 New
          +1
          Thanks for the amendment.
  6. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 6 October 2020 15: 47 New
    +2
    Vova is just a genius, to sell his own anti-aircraft systems to an openly hostile country that shot down his military plane, this must be alternatively gifted.
    1. Airdefense
      Airdefense 6 October 2020 16: 24 New
      -1
      Well, there are more than two spiders in the bank and everyone has to maneuver, the enemy of Russia is undersult, but now he is no less an enemy for the EU, a generator of problems in NATO, and the sale of the anti-aircraft complex looks like a good shit on the fan inside NATO. Globally, these supplies do not change the balance of power.
  7. Radikal
    Radikal 6 October 2020 16: 02 New
    -3
    Quote: Fedor Sokolov
    As if it did not turn out that our own lard is the same for us.

    In my opinion, it is enough to watch the video of the Janissary's meetings with the Guarantor, where the first looks at the second with barely concealed condescension and disdain, so one should not be surprised at the actions of the Turks. sad
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 03 New
    -2
    Here's what they write about our Turkish friend and about combat readiness)) "On Tuesday, October 6, on the telegram account" Military Observer "there was information that an unknown reconnaissance aircraft was seen over the Russian military base in the Armenian city of Gyumri. According to the channel's sources, the combat vehicle initially broadcast false information about its status, and then invaded Armenian airspace. The winged vehicle flew directly over the Russian air base in Gyumri, and then entered Turkish airspace. The crew of the vehicle turned off the transponder. "
    1. maktub
      maktub 6 October 2020 16: 45 New
      -1
      "Business jet" Bombardier
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 47 New
        -1
        I already looked ..)) it still suggests that someone does not catch mice ..))
        1. maktub
          maktub 6 October 2020 16: 55 New
          -2
          Should the Armenian S-300s carry the DB there?
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 59 New
            -1
            But I wonder if it is possible to cram a transponder into a cruise missile from a standing (for example, being repaired) side and launch an enemy or "partner" at the airfield?
  9. Dikson
    Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    In general, we can say that Turkey is quite ready for the CSTO to meet Pashinyan's calls and get into a fight .. Or the CSTO will be forced to get into a fight .. This will give Turkey a wonderful field for retaliatory strikes against friendly Russia. And there you look, and the disagreements with NATO will be forgotten - here, after all, such an opportunity looms! ..
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 6 October 2020 16: 16 New
      +5
      And then you look, and the disagreements with NATO will be forgotten ...


      NATO will not utter a word. A great opportunity for the Turks to get a boot in the head and get behind the Greeks.

      there is such an opportunity looming! ..


      What is this opportunity? Get 5400 nuclear warheads from Turkey? laughing

      You can enter either Warsaw or Constantinople. Everyone will be busy with business.
    2. keeper03
      keeper03 6 October 2020 16: 55 New
      0
      We will make a strait in the Samum area! wassat soldier
  10. set of sets
    set of sets 6 October 2020 16: 25 New
    +2
    Turkey on its territory has every right to transfer any weapons anywhere in the country. And this question should not cause anyone, and even more so to inflate an elephant out of a fly is stupid.
    We do not ask anyone for permission to transfer weapons to Crimea or Kaliningrad. Why Erdogan should act differently.
  11. Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 6 October 2020 16: 30 New
    -2
    Quote: cniza
    This is the implementation of the US plan to create a belt of conflicts around Russia ...

    And it seems to me that this is the intrigue of anchutka, an evil devil. Is it possible for the people in Belarus or Kyrgyzstan to get tired of the local authorities that regularly falsify elections? Power is from God. Precisely, the machinations of the evil one. It is not necessary to insert the USA into any barrel with a plug. Doesn't fit.
  12. Dikson
    Dikson 6 October 2020 16: 41 New
    0
    The air corridor is covered by the transfer of barmaley closer to us .. Air bridge to Azerbaijan.
  13. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 6 October 2020 17: 21 New
    -2
    No matter how they hit a Russian plane with a rocket. The Ottomans are not the first time to do nasty things.
    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 6 October 2020 18: 03 New
      -4
      Nitsche, bald tomatoes won't buy from them
  14. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 6 October 2020 18: 02 New
    -3
    bald Turks still need to sell a couple of S-400 regiments and a Su-35 or just a Su-57, strategist damn unfinished
  15. Antonio_Mariarti
    Antonio_Mariarti 7 October 2020 12: 21 New
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    Quote: pytar
    Firing practice with the C-400 is scheduled for October 20 in the Sinop area.

    Sinope battle - the defeat of the Turkish squadron by the Russian Black Sea Fleet on November 18 (30), 1853, under the command of Vice Admiral Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov. The battle took place in the harbor of Sinop (about 300 km from Sevastopol) on the Black Sea coast of Turkey. The Turkish squadron was defeated within a few hours.



    Do Turks want to "repeat"? wassat

    The main thing is not to succeed, as in the Crimean.
  16. no one
    no one 7 October 2020 15: 55 New
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    Do not listen to these provocateurs from bulgaria brothers. Everything is really simple. The rocket test site is in sinop
  17. no one
    no one 7 October 2020 15: 55 New
    -1
    Do not listen to these provocateurs from bulgaria brothers. Everything is really simple. The rocket test site is in sinop
  18. no one
    no one 7 October 2020 15: 55 New
    -1
    Do not listen to these provocateurs from bulgaria brothers. Everything is really simple. The rocket test site is in sinop
  19. no one
    no one 7 October 2020 15: 55 New
    -1
    Do not listen to these provocateurs from bulgaria brothers. Everything is really simple. The rocket test site is in sinop