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"Russia has no problems with the possible delivery of S-400 to Iran": Ambassador's statement on the imminent lifting of the embargo

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Russia will be ready to supply Tehran with S-400 air defense systems immediately after the end of the embargo imposed by the UN Security Council resolution on the Islamic Republic in 2015. And it expires on October 18.


This statement was made by the Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Tehran Levan Dzhagaryan during an interview with the Iranian newspaper Resalat.
At the same time, Russia does not intend to obey the US demands not to sell weapon to Iran.

As you know, S-300s were delivered. Russia has no problem supplying the S-400, and that was not a problem from the start.

- said Jagaryan.

And if Tehran is interested in Russian anti-aircraft missile systems, this issue can be considered after October 18.

The Trump administration has failed to persuade even its closest allies Germany, Britain and France to support the extension of the arms embargo to Iran.

Al-Monitor journalists believe that it is still difficult to judge how serious Jagaryan's proposal is. But if the S-400 complexes are nevertheless delivered to Iran, it will be a slap in the face to Donald Trump and cause discontent in Israel. In addition, the Russian long-range air defense system is highly developed and could pose a threat to American aircraft operated by the United States and its regional allies in the event of a US conflict with Iran.
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  1. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 6 October 2020 12: 40
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    At the same time, Russia does not intend to obey the US demands not to sell weapons to Iran.
    Even if we had some reasons not to sell, the United States eliminated them by sanctions against our military-industrial complex.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 6 October 2020 13: 27
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      Quote: Trapp1st
      Even if we had some reasons not to sell, the United States eliminated them by sanctions against our military-industrial complex.

      Iran can now become an ally against Turkish aggression in N.K. Counterbalance ... There are a lot of Azerbaijanis in Iran, and the Turkish expansion into Azerbaijan does not smile at Iran at all. And to Adjara.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 6 October 2020 14: 13
        +9
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Iran can now become an ally against Turkish aggression in N.K. Counterbalance ... There are a lot of Azerbaijanis in Iran, and the Turkish expansion into Azerbaijan does not smile at Iran at all. And to Adjara.

        rather, a profitable travel companion. Russia has not had any "allies" for a long time.
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 6 October 2020 13: 29
      +4
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Even if we had some reasons not to sell, the United States eliminated them by sanctions against our military-industrial complex.
      I do not think that the desire of our leadership not to quarrel with Israel has disappeared anywhere. In everything they did, there was always a desire to avoid possible conflicts as much as possible.
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 6 October 2020 15: 53
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        Quote: military_cat
        I do not think that the desire of our leadership not to quarrel with Israel has disappeared anywhere. In everything they did, there was always a desire to avoid possible conflicts as much as possible.

        Can you tell us why we sold them the S-300, the Tor air defense system, even before the sanctions? We didn't seem to want to quarrel.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 6 October 2020 15: 57
          +1
          Can you tell us why we sold them the S-300, the Tor air defense system, even before the sanctions? We didn't seem to want to quarrel.

          We didn't want to pay more penalties ... wink
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 6 October 2020 16: 04
            +1
            Quote: Alex777
            We didn't want to pay more penalties ...

            Thor was sold long before the S-300.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 6 October 2020 16: 05
              +2
              So Thor did not bother anyone.
              The Israeli missile launch range is several times greater than its range.
              And the Prime Minister personally asked not to deliver the S-300.
              But I am not saying that now that Israel is bombing Syria with might and main, their requests will greatly excite us.
              We need someone else's hands to close the Syrian sky.
              Iran in this capacity is just right.
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 6 October 2020 16: 11
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                Quote: Alex777
                The Israeli missile launch range is several times greater than its range.

                laughing What are you talking about? The task of the torus would just be to shoot down cruise missiles, KAB and air-to-surface missiles.
                Quote: Alex777
                And the Prime Minister personally asked not to deliver the S-300.

                Yes, there our clownery played together with Iran. We don’t want to supply it because we have introduced sanctions together with everyone else, but we will deliver because the court decided that we were in breach of the contract.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 6 October 2020 16: 14
                  +1
                  laughing What are you talking about?

                  I mean that the Torah is not a threat to airplanes. laughing
                  The rest of the Israelis are not worried.
                  And the court could really push us precisely because air defense could be supplied, but Medvedev decided otherwise.
                  1. CSKA
                    CSKA 6 October 2020 16: 50
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                    Quote: Alex777
                    I mean that the Torah is not a threat to airplanes.

                    Well Torah yes.
                    Quote: Alex777
                    The rest of the Israelis are not worried.

                    Likewise, the S-300PMU2 would not be capable of shooting down planes. Aircraft would be launched by the CD, not air-to-surface.
                    Quote: Alex777
                    And the court could really push us precisely because air defense could be supplied, but Medvedev decided otherwise.

                    So they put it all the same.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 6 October 2020 18: 55
                      +1
                      Likewise, the S-300PMU2 would not be capable of shooting down planes. Aircraft would be launched by the CD, not air-to-surface.

                      To start up CD is not cheap. Compared to KABs, etc.
                      And their number is limited.
                      So they put it all the same.

                      So they put it, otherwise the court would have pushed it. And there was a topic under 4 lard.
                      1. CSKA
                        CSKA 7 October 2020 11: 17
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                        Quote: Alex777
                        To start up CD is not cheap. Compared to KABs, etc.

                        They have no choice. They let them into the SAR of the Kyrgyz Republic because the air defense of the SAR does not allow them to fly so close that they would launch the KAB.
                        Quote: Alex777
                        So they put it, otherwise the court would have pushed it. And there was a topic under 4 lard.

                        I think that Russia and Iran played a show for the public.
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 7 October 2020 12: 20
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                        I think that Russia and Iran played a show for the public.

                        I think that President Medvedev wanted the West to please, and President Putin did the right thing.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 October 2020 12: 41
    0
    Return Vedmedev to power, this one is naughty - we will remember for a century! The head of the sixth column from power. ...
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 6 October 2020 12: 46
    -2
    Israel may grumble, but it will not be such a big tragedy for it.
    According to the latest trends, it is necessary to start serious R&D on new air defense / electronic warfare against UAVs with the expectation that they will fly in "swarms", dozens or even hundreds on a narrow section of the front.
    1. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 13: 05
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      Quote: Airdefense
      Israel may grumble, but it will not be such a big tragedy for it.
      According to the latest trends, it is necessary to start serious R&D on new air defense / electronic warfare against UAVs with the expectation that they will fly in "swarms", dozens or even hundreds on a narrow section of the front.

      Judging by quite a whole Khmeimim, everything is fine with our air defense. Operator qualifications.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 6 October 2020 13: 13
        +1
        Nowadays, drones do not fly in flocks on the average drone operator, problems will begin when drones fly in swarms, with dozens of cheap dummies to divert air defense resources. A hundred drones in some area will lead to the depletion of a resource, any current air defense.
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 13: 27
          +6
          Quote: Airdefense
          Nowadays, drones do not fly in flocks on the average drone operator, problems will begin when drones fly in swarms, with dozens of cheap dummies to divert air defense resources. A hundred drones in some area will lead to the depletion of a resource, any current air defense.

          Altitude / speed issue. If the drone flies above 5-6 km, so you have to spend a rocket to defeat it, then it costs accordingly. Bo engine, hardware, glider ... And the drone manufacturer will run out of resources sooner. And if we are talking about small kammikaze drones, scouts and trompe l'oeil, there are Armor and Torah for this. Zadolbutsya in cost with a projectile from an anti-aircraft gun to compete. I'm not even talking about the fact that UAVs have an effective range of 150-200 km in response to a control signal, and they are suppressed by electronic warfare quite easily, and I would really like to understand what the operators of the "UAV flock" will do with the one who has flown to their hearts in a minute after the start by Iskander? Or Caliber? Or Krasnopol at worst? As practice has shown in Syria, they will die. UAVs are effective only in such wars, when the enemy either does not have long-range weapons at all, or he cannot use them for political reasons ... In other cases, the UAV is a toy. An object normally covered by electronic warfare and air defense is invulnerable for them even without their own aircraft in the sky. And with it, these models are better not to take off at all. Well, what can a UAV do against a modern fighter? At least there will be 50 of them. It's like the Su-35 and I-15 to compare in terms of combat capabilities. In your opinion, both we and the Americans have no brains at all, because we rely on UAVs only for reconnaissance and auxiliary tasks?
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 6 October 2020 13: 40
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            spend a rocket, then it costs accordingly. Bo engine, hardware, glider ... and the drone manufacturer will run out of resources sooner

            As a hobbyist, there is a strong suspicion that the high price of drones is discouraging development, plus a relatively small number of suppliers. The glider itself and the engine are not expensive, optics, electronics, communications are expensive, but this is also a matter of mass. Well, plus, if there is no way to reduce the price of electronics, then you can always put cheap pacifiers nearby.

            and EW are suppressed quite easily

            Yes, it’s not so easy, otherwise there would be no such problem at all, plus there are also ways of fighting against electronic warfare. And the development of technology does not stand still, the idea of ​​an autonomous drone that would recognize targets and attack itself is also already underway.

            and I would really like to understand what the operators of the "UAV flock" will do with Iskander, who has arrived to their hearts a minute after the launch? Or Caliber? Or Krasnopol at worst?

            This has never happened before, neither in Syria, nor in Libya, nor now in Armenia, and it is unlikely in proxy wars and local conflicts that are gaining momentum.
            1. KCA
              KCA 6 October 2020 14: 08
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              In 2011, the latest US reconnaissance UAV RQ-170 landed in Iran, do you think there was protection from electronic warfare on the communication channel with the operator? Choi could not easily resist it, and if Iran had Russian or Belarusian (as they also believe) electronic warfare systems, then obviously export options and not the newest ones, and as a retreat - a couple of years ago Iran presented a drone, well, how similar to RQ-170
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 6 October 2020 14: 14
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                Well, nine years have passed since 2011, once again I do not in any way declare that the UAV is a new nuclear weapon, against which there is no protection. UAVs as a weapon now occupy an important niche for which a cheap antidote must be sought. Now the economy is in favor of UAVs, it is cheaper to buy a hundred UAVs than to build an echeloned air defense against them.
            2. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 14: 37
              +1
              Quote: Airdefense
              As a hobbyist, there is a strong suspicion that the high price of drones is discouraging development, plus a relatively small number of suppliers. The glider itself and the engine are not expensive, optics, electronics, communications are expensive, but this is also a matter of mass. Well, plus, if there is no way to reduce the price of electronics, then you can always put cheap pacifiers nearby.

              Is there something fundamentally more expensive in the rocket from the Pantsir than in the drone?

              Quote: Airdefense
              Yes, it’s not so easy, otherwise there would be no such problem at all, plus there are also ways of fighting against electronic warfare. And the development of technology does not stand still, the idea of ​​an autonomous drone that would recognize targets and attack itself is also already underway.

              And who tried it besides us in Khmeimim? Ours not only suppressed them, but intercepted and imprisoned them. Super weapon that can be stolen right during the attack. About the drone with AI. And we and the states have such developments. But as a programmer, developer and specialist in AI and machine learning, I can unequivocally say that the recognition and selection of targets in real conditions, with the simultaneous execution of a combat mission, self-defense, navigation and avoidance of damage to one's own targets, even not using active responders, is an extremely difficult task. Akin to the invention of a trained attack pilot, at least. It is solvable, of course, but in 30-40 years when it comes to that and we'll talk. In the meantime, this is all the cutting edge of theoretical neuroinformatics, not real systems. And even before the creation of massively computers surpassing today's ones by 2 orders of magnitude in power, there is nothing to dream of solving it with a reasonable price and weight of the machine.
              Quote: Airdefense
              This has never happened before, neither in Syria, nor in Libya, nor now in Armenia, and it is unlikely in proxy wars and local conflicts that are gaining momentum.

              This was every time drones were launched over Khmeimim. Read the news for 15, 16, 17 years.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 6 October 2020 13: 54
          -2
          Quote: Airdefense
          problems will begin when drones fly in swarms, with dozens of cheap dummies to divert air defense resources.

          They have already begun - in this way Israel in Syria was able to destroy a pair of Shells. A light missile for Carapace, this is a response to such a threat. But this is only the beginning of the drone-air defense confrontation.
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 6 October 2020 14: 05
            -1
            But this is only the beginning of the drone-air defense confrontation.
            I'm talking about this and the food that a new trend is starting now.
          2. Oleg123219307
            Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 14: 39
            +1
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            They have already begun - in this way Israel in Syria was able to destroy a pair of Shells. A light missile for Carapace, this is a response to such a threat. But this is only the beginning of the drone-air defense confrontation.

            Cannon complex Pantsir, and the operator trained not to sleep at the post is the solution to this problem. And gentlemen, Arab scoundrels are not very suitable for the role of demonstrators of advanced technologies)
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 6 October 2020 15: 36
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              Quote: oleg123219307
              Cannon complex Pantsir, and the operator trained not to sleep at the post is the solution to this problem.

              I doubt very much the expediency of having a cannon on the Shell. Something there is no information that she actually knocked something down.
              In my opinion, hitting a small drone with this gun is a big problem, if only because of the swinging of the transporter when firing.
              It is more useful to exclude it altogether, and in return to increase the missile ammunition ready for firing.
              1. Oleg123219307
                Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 15: 55
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                Quote: Captain Pushkin
                I doubt very much the expediency of having a cannon on the Shell. Something there is no information that she actually knocked something down.
                In my opinion, hitting a small drone with this gun is a big problem, if only because of the swinging of the transporter when firing.
                It is more useful to exclude it altogether, and in return to increase the missile ammunition ready for firing.

                It even hits MLRS shells, and compared to a rocket it shoots almost free of charge, so the expediency is undeniable.
                1. PSih2097
                  PSih2097 7 October 2020 00: 15
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                  Quote: oleg123219307

                  It even hits MLRS shells, and compared to a rocket it shoots almost free of charge, so the expediency is undeniable.

                  the problem is that ACS has not yet been screwed onto the "shell", and yes - the quality of graduate officers from academies is lame from year to year ...
                  1. Oleg123219307
                    Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 00: 21
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                    Quote: PSih2097
                    the problem is that ACS has not yet been screwed onto the "shell", and yes - the quality of graduate officers from academies is lame from year to year ...

                    I can’t give a reasoned answer on any point, I don’t have any information. But probably if everything were so bad, something would have flown over Khmeimim. How many times have you tried ...
                2. Captain Pushkin
                  Captain Pushkin 7 October 2020 11: 15
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                  Quote: oleg123219307
                  He even hits MLRS shells

                  If so accurate, why aren't the drones shot down?
                  If it confuses, why is everyone silent about it?
                  1. Oleg123219307
                    Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 11: 17
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                    Quote: Captain Pushkin
                    If so accurate, why aren't the drones shot down?
                    If it confuses, why is everyone silent about it?

                    And when OUR shells with OUR crews missed the drone, please remind me? The fact that gentlemen Arabs do not know how to fight and destroy equipment - well, if you drive nails with a microscope, it breaks. As well as if, instead of working at a combat post, you stand and smoke near the air defense complex at the time of an enemy attack, which has been going on for 20 minutes ...
                    1. Captain Pushkin
                      Captain Pushkin 7 October 2020 13: 13
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                      Quote: oleg123219307
                      And when OUR shells with OUR crews missed the drone, please remind me?

                      Give an example of a shell hitting something with a cannon.
              2. Xscorpion
                Xscorpion 7 October 2020 07: 07
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                Our base Khmeimim is bombarded with drones almost every day, and as if 5+ cannons work out their purpose, since there are no losses among equipment and personnel.
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 7 October 2020 00: 12
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          Quote: Airdefense
          Drones don't fly in flocks now

          watch the presentations of Israeli and American offices about kamikaze drones - there are a lot of videos on YouTube.
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 6 October 2020 14: 15
        +1
        Quote: oleg123219307
        Quote: Airdefense
        Israel may grumble, but it will not be such a big tragedy for it.
        According to the latest trends, it is necessary to start serious R&D on new air defense / electronic warfare against UAVs with the expectation that they will fly in "swarms", dozens or even hundreds on a narrow section of the front.

        Judging by quite a whole Khmeimim, everything is fine with our air defense. Operator qualifications.

        this while the "handicraft" flies. when serious "flocks" appear, it will be very troublesome.
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 6 October 2020 14: 41
          -1
          Quote: Aerodrome
          this while the "handicraft" flies. when serious "flocks" appear, it will be very troublesome.

          And what a "serious" flock can do with a pair of Su-35s covering the object? Everyone now so praises these drones, forgetting that for us and the states this is the day before yesterday. Cruise missiles are better in all respects and nothing, but we are fighting, and we and they are quite successful.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 7 October 2020 11: 17
            +1
            Quote: oleg123219307
            And what a "serious" flock can do with a pair of Su-35s covering the object?

            Another question is, what can a pair of Su-35s do with a serious flock of drones and how much will it cost?
            1. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 13: 08
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              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              Another question is, what can a pair of Su-35s do with a serious flock of drones and how much will it cost?

              And given the advantages in speed, range, altitude, maneuverability, armament and the presence of an aircraft cannon with shells that are almost free by the standards of missiles, the Su-35, according to you, cannot do with a flock of drones?
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              1. Captain Pushkin
                Captain Pushkin 7 October 2020 13: 29
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                Quote: oleg123219307
                And what can the Su-35 NOT do with them? The gun is almost free

                What the Su-35 cannot with a bunch of penny drones? Almost nothing can. If the pilot is an ace, he will shoot down a couple of three and that's it.
                Free Cannon? For one flight there are 5 tons of kerosene, plus depreciation of the aircraft, for example, for an hour of flight.
                With 40 million dollars for the plane and 40000 hours of resource, the depreciation of an hour will be 1000 dollars, plus 4 tons of kerosene per hour, a couple of thousand more, totaling about 3000 dollars for three drones worth 600 dollars. We do not count the salaries of pilots, technicians, the cost of all life cycle repairs, etc. etc.
          2. Airdefense
            Airdefense 7 October 2020 14: 43
            -1
            It is quite expensive to use the Su-35 against drones.
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 6 October 2020 23: 56
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        Quote: oleg123219307
        Judging by quite a whole Khmeimim everything is fine with us with air defense... Operator qualifications.

        no, we are starting to lag behind, as a policy of the Ministry of Defense, it's like destroying a drone for $ 100 with a $ 000 rocket ... But they don't touch Khmeimim, because in Israel they don't want to play STALKER for life ...
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 00: 14
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          Quote: PSih2097
          no, we are starting to lag behind, as a policy of the Ministry of Defense, it's like destroying a drone for $ 100 with a $ 000 rocket ... But they don't touch Khmeimim, because in Israel they don't want to play STALKER for life ...

          Where do we lag behind in your opinion? We are among the leaders in air defense and electronic warfare in general in the world. For purposes like large UAVs, we have a number of systems, and Torah, and Buki, and missile systems Pantsir and Tunguska. And for small-sized drones, kamikaze works the same as against the CD in the final section. Cannon complexes of Pantsir and Tunguska, not counting actually thousands of units of deployed systems of older generations, which are also quite suitable and are almost free in today's times. Read more here https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%92% D0% 9E_% D0% A1% D1% 83% D1% 85% D0% BE% D0% BF% D1% 83% D1% 82% D0% BD% D1% 8B% D1% 85_% D0% B2% D0% BE% D0% B9% D1% 81% D0% BA_% D0% A0% D0% BE% D1% 81% D1% 81% D0% B8% D0% B9% D1% 81% D0% BA% D0% BE% D0% B9_% D0% A4% D0% B5% D0% B4% D0% B5% D1% 80% D0% B0% D1% 86% D0% B8% D0% B8
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 7 October 2020 00: 22
            +2
            Oleg less read VIKI. It is not technology that is fighting - people are fighting.
            Have you seen the air defense lieutenants? Personally, I saw, I saw how they study ... and I saw the order - not to expel for deuces for the semester and for the course, and for the defense of the diploma, double - to put a three and send to the troops.
            1. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 00: 45
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              Quote: PSih2097
              Oleg less read VIKI. It is not technology that is fighting - people are fighting.
              Have you seen the air defense lieutenants? Personally, I saw, I saw how they study ... and I saw the order - not to expel for deuces for the semester and for the course, and for the defense of the diploma, double - to put a three and send to the troops.

              As I wrote above, I am not familiar with the students of today's military universities. But a couple of my acquaintances fought in Syria, and I would not say that their stories are so sad.
      4. Danila46
        Danila46 7 October 2020 12: 55
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        And what, someone attacked the Khmeimim base with high-tech weapons that you have such confidence in "everything is fine with the air defense"? And because of this you have no questions about the qualifications of operators ???
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 13: 13
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          Quote: Danila46
          And what, someone attacked the Khmeimim base with high-tech weapons that you have such confidence in "everything is fine with the air defense"? And because of this you have no questions about the qualifications of operators ???

          What do you understand as a high-tech weapon? Bayraktars with a speed of 150 km / h? Or American CDs including JASSM 90% of which were knocked down by the Syrian air defense as old as a shit ** mammoth?
          1. Danila46
            Danila46 7 October 2020 16: 16
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            let's say the Turks have more advanced UAVs, and the Americans have enough choice for five exhibitions, and you probably forgot about the barrage of UAVs. Or do you think that Hmemim is not an accessory bastion ???
            1. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 16: 20
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              Quote: Danila46
              let's say the Turks have more advanced UAVs, and the Americans have enough choice for five exhibitions, and you probably forgot about the barrage of UAVs. Or do you think that Hmemim is not an accessory bastion ???

              No, not impregnable of course. The best quality can ultimately be outweighed by quantity. The only question is that not a single country in the region will be able to do this, because they really want to live, and the states spend 150-200 KR on a base that can be covered with 1-2 blocks of ICBMs for no reason. Anyway, this is only possible in the scenario of World War 3, and there no one will play toy airplanes.
              1. Danila46
                Danila46 7 October 2020 17: 36
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                that's exactly what is not impregnable. In general, I believe that there have never been any impregnable structures and fortifications, even if they have the most modern means of protection. And about Khmeimim, this base can be endured with much less effort than you described above. And yes, of course, no one is going to do this, because this is a declaration of war by the Russian Federation, and there are no such idiots so far, the glory of G-Gu. But purely hypothetically, this is possible without much effort for the same Turkey, for example ...
                1. Oleg123219307
                  Oleg123219307 7 October 2020 18: 07
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                  Quote: Danila46
                  that's exactly what is not impregnable. In general, I believe that there have never been any impregnable structures and fortifications, even if they have the most modern means of protection. And about Khmeimim, this base can be endured with much less effort than you described above. And yes, of course, no one is going to do this, because this is a declaration of war by the Russian Federation, and there are no such idiots so far, the glory of G-Gu. But purely hypothetically, this is possible without much effort for the same Turkey, for example ...

                  Well, not that effortlessly but straining to carry they can probably. True, taking into account what is on Khmeimim and what the Turks have, they will leave exactly half of their aviation there when they try. Apart from those ships that will turn up at the arm of the covering fleet and those objects where the Iskander from Khmeimim will reach. And of course, after this, they will be kicked out of NATO in 10 minutes, because how we will answer a no-brainer, and no one in NATO wants to die for the Turks, they are there and so everyone is a thorn in the seat ... And I think if the base was built with a sight in order to withstand the concentrated blow of the Turks, it would have been otherwise staffed. And for those threats that there is protection, as we can see, it is quite enough.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 6 October 2020 13: 10
      -8
      Quote: Airdefense
      Israel may grumble, but it will not be such a big tragedy for it.
      According to the latest trends, it is necessary to start serious R&D on new air defense / electronic warfare against UAVs with the expectation that they will fly in "swarms", dozens or even hundreds on a narrow section of the front.

      Yes, the Russian Federation spat on our discontent. Well, we didn't really doubt it. I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 6 October 2020 13: 25
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        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.

        What is anti-Semitism? It borrows a lot of money from a Jew and never gives back laughing
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 6 October 2020 13: 56
          +3
          Quote: g1washntwn
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.

          What is anti-Semitism? It borrows a lot of money from a Jew and never gives back laughing

          So you take it first. tongue tongue
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 6 October 2020 14: 31
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            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            So you take it first.

            Give it without interest and we will be happy laughing
      2. Airdefense
        Airdefense 6 October 2020 13: 41
        +1
        Why, such grunts, the S-400 delivered to Iran, will have little effect on the overall balance of power. On the contrary, let Iran sit on the Russian S-400 in the export version, which will burn something of its own.
      3. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 6 October 2020 14: 15
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        Yes, the Russian Federation spat on our discontent. Well, we didn't really doubt it. I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.
        Because of Georgia, Ukraine or Azerbaijan? although what is it about if Israel supplies weapons to Myanmar and even South Sudan.
      4. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 6 October 2020 14: 33
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Yes, the Russian Federation spat on our discontent. Well, we didn't really doubt it. I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.

        Would you like to threaten? (joke) But seriously, the article is only about the S-400 system. But not only air defense systems will be supplied, and not only Russia.
      5. CSKA
        CSKA 6 October 2020 15: 56
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I hope the Russian Federation will not have any grudges against Israel.

        So why should we be offended by you? We are partners. Moreover, we are not anti-Semites. But what difference does it make to you? You over there are excellent fellows with anti-Semites.
    3. jonht
      jonht 6 October 2020 14: 23
      +1
      Everything has been invented for a long time, electronic warfare and charges of buckshot or shot create a dense cloud which is enough for the eyes of the swarm.
  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 12: 47
    -8
    Our bourgeois S-400 will not be delivered to Iran, since they store their loot in the USA!
    Who wants to lose their blood-stolen?
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      1. Thrall
        Thrall 6 October 2020 12: 57
        +8
        Quote: stas
        Our bourgeoisie

        Is there a publicly available list of "our bourgeois"? smile
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 13: 04
          +4
          Bourgeois for him are those who have more money than him
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                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 6 October 2020 13: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: stas
                  Eat eater!

                  I'm eating. As much as 3 times a day.
                  And you are probably from the hunger of the great so evil? recourse
                  Have you tried to work and earn money for food?
                  1. stas
                    stas 6 October 2020 16: 26
                    +1
                    Give advice to your own, maybe they will beat for good. And I'm getting good!
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 16: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: stas
                      Give your advice,

                      Which one?
                      ... And I'm getting good!

                      Clear. You don't eat, you save money, that's why you are so angry
                      1. stas
                        stas 6 October 2020 16: 43
                        +1
                        Eater, calm down. The future of Russia is not for people like you from Lipetsk!
                        Parquet or something!

                        The future of Russia belongs to its people without the Eaters of Russia!
                        But while you are doing the Sabbath in EREFIA, you are not sorry for Russia!
                      2. stas
                        stas 6 October 2020 16: 45
                        +3
                        10 pigs, 3 cows you won't be hungry with them. This is not licking ass in stripes!
                      3. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 6 October 2020 16: 51
                        0
                        Quote: stas
                        10 pigs, 3 cows you won't be hungry with them

                        Clear. before such fists were called
                        Therefore, the bourgeoisie and envy.
                        So you will soon be rakulakut
                    2. stas
                      stas 6 October 2020 16: 47
                      +1
                      Lipchanin, you have licked a lot here in a year, parquet specialist from the Eaters of Russia!
                    3. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 16: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: stas
                      Lipchanin, you licked a lot here in a year,

                      Blabbol with cows, and from whom did I lick?
                      Specifically. Can you prove it?
                      Prove, or sew your mouth.
                      And in general, you bothered me with your whimpering and black envy worse than a bitter radish.
                      I won't tell you any more words, letters on the screen negative
  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 13: 07
    -3
    The place where Russian money is kept must be changed and the bourgeoisie must be removed from power.
    And not every person can lick the fifth point of the authorities! But you succeed, according to the Kremlin manual!
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 6 October 2020 13: 00
    -2
    So your bourgeoisie has a maximum of the worker that is Soviet Buki
  • iouris
    iouris 6 October 2020 13: 05
    -5
    Quote: stas
    Who wants to lose their blood-stolen?

    This money is no longer there, you can start from scratch. The United States will get out of the crisis not only and not so much at its own expense.
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 6 October 2020 13: 18
    +2
    Absolutely, otherwise some patriots will immediately receive personal sanctions.
  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 16: 49
    +1
    Eaters of Russia, from your minuses the S-400 will not be delivered to Iran anyway, you at least stand on your ears!
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 6 October 2020 12: 53
    -3
    immediately after the end of the embargo imposed by the UN Security Council resolution on the Islamic Republic in 2015. And it expires on October 18th.

    So it will be extended further
  • Dave36
    Dave36 6 October 2020 12: 54
    -1
    Russian Ambassador Levan Dzhagaryan ... finish ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 6 October 2020 12: 58
      12
      Quote: Dave36
      Russian Ambassador Levan Dzhagaryan ... finish ...

      US President Barack Obama. smile
      1. Dave36
        Dave36 6 October 2020 13: 16
        +3
        Negro, full of scum
      2. kit88
        kit88 6 October 2020 13: 47
        12
        Quote: Thrall
        U.S. President Barack Obama

        Barak Hussein
        Obama
        please note
    2. KCA
      KCA 6 October 2020 14: 20
      +2
      The fact that Sergei Lavrov is an Armenian does not bother you?
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 6 October 2020 12: 54
    +5
    You can put it. And it would even be nice.

    In this way, we help, if not an ally, then a temporary fellow traveler, we receive money in the budget and enterprises for the development of newer S-500 complexes. We are strengthening military-technical cooperation (MTC), linking them to our technology. Military-technical cooperation usually leads to political benefits.

    Plus, we are reducing the availability of flights in the region for "partners", which is very good.

    Well, from the technical side. This region has mountainous terrain, the relief there is not only desert. That is, in some areas, target illumination with the help of buyers' radar will be visible and marked by our complexes. I mean that the operating radar station in Iran emits, and we see the reflected signal, including from the targets, the detection of which is otherwise difficult. Our specialists put systems on our frequencies, we easily decode the signal. And if we also officially share the radar fields under the agreement, then it's generally great.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 October 2020 12: 56
    +1
    , "it will slap Donald Trump in the face and cause discontent in Israel."

    "Ugh on you.
    Ugh on you again. "
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 13: 07
      -1
      Quote: Livonetc
      "it will slap Donald Trump in the face and displease Israel.

      Can be smarter laughing
  • Antidote
    Antidote 6 October 2020 12: 57
    +3
    in general, before nothing prevented from selling, except the will of the parties.
    https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/ru/node/63339
    https://www.unroca.org/categories
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 6 October 2020 12: 57
    +1
    How much in common Shiite Iran and modern Russia have, even more than meets the eye. Why didn't the rulers of the two countries become the strongest geo-political and economic allies? Such an alliance would benefit both countries.
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 6 October 2020 13: 00
    +4
    And what does the reference to the embargo have to do with it? The ban concerns the supply of offensive weapons; there are no formal restrictions on the supply of air defense systems. Other factors influence the decision on supply.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 6 October 2020 13: 05
    +3
    Why C - 400? Take from the presence of the VKS S - 300, otkitalit to PMU - 2 and let them use.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 13: 26
      0
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Why C - 400?

      Well, if they need exactly the S-400. why do they need another?
      They just won't buy it
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 6 October 2020 13: 59
        -1
        I think Iran is not in a position to "twist its nose".
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 14: 04
          0
          They are asking us for the S-400.
          We do not offer them, they ask us
  • Antokha
    Antokha 6 October 2020 13: 27
    0
    And if Tehran is interested in Russian anti-aircraft missile systems, this issue can be considered after October 18.

    Does the embargo also apply to expressions of interest? In fact, on the 18th, deliveries could begin.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 6 October 2020 13: 33
    -3
    the only question is whether Iran has money for this
  • zontov79
    zontov79 6 October 2020 13: 55
    +2
    If asked to put it is necessary. This is a guarantee that the United States will not ruin another country.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 6 October 2020 14: 01
    -1
    But if the S-400 systems are nevertheless delivered to Iran, it will be a slap in the face to Donald Trump and cause discontent in Israel.

    It is not yet known whether Trump will become president, and Israel's displeasure will be caused by any supply of air defense weapons, even the American Patriot, MIM-104!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 October 2020 14: 11
    +2
    Yes, it seems, as the Iranians themselves stated, they themselves have a mustache! They do everything they need to be no worse than us. Ali still NO?
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 14: 12
    -1
    And if Tehran is interested in Russian anti-aircraft missile systems, this issue can be considered after October 18.
    You can be interested in anything, of course, the Iranians ARE INTERESTED, but in the current conditions they will buy from China. For many reasons, the simplest of which is with China it is easier for them to pay for the supplied weapons with counter oil deliveries.
    In tabloid terms, Russia has left Iran, who after that in his right mind and memory will turn to a scammer? ...
    Russian inconsistency, the possibility of manipulation by the Russian leadership both by the United States and by little Israel, reduced the chances of possible cooperation to practically ZERO. The maximum possible is the modernization of the Soviet and Russian-made equipment and weapons in Iran's arsenal.
    In addition, Iran is consistently developing its own production of air defense systems and has achieved success in this, but significantly slips in aircraft construction, even civilian, even military.
    With civilian products, Russia has flown by, and the military remains, at least here Mr. Pogosyan did not offer and did not implement "international cooperation." Iran will be interested in proposals for multifunctional fighters, but it all depends on the ratio of cost and performance. In conditions when China released another clone of the Su-27, which has a more modern avionics, modern missiles and is already equipped with original Chinese engines, the relevance and attractiveness of the same Su-35 is questionable, and this is the most modern Russian fighter that it can actually produce and supply to export. Until now, there is no airborne radar with AFAR, export versions of missiles are significantly inferior to the latest Chinese, etc.
    So, most likely, all that shines in the Russian military-industrial complex in the case of Iran is the modernization of the existing MiG-29 and nothing more.
    1. Pytnik
      Pytnik 6 October 2020 14: 58
      0
      You wrote everything correctly, the only thing that might interest the Iranians is the localization of production on their territory, and so yes, otherwise they will acquire aviation from China, well, maybe we also get something from the contracts through the radar and through the Navy
  • Victorm
    Victorm 6 October 2020 15: 24
    -1
    Quote: Pytnik
    You wrote everything correctly, the only thing that might interest the Iranians is the localization of production on their territory
    It is unlikely that this is the case, for example, this is possible for tanks or infantry fighting vehicles, and for aviation, even in the case of modernization, there will most likely be a variant of offset transactions. In this case, Russia has a slight advantage over China, maybe something else will be sold.
    But now Iran itself is not up to it.
    1. Pytnik
      Pytnik 6 October 2020 16: 23
      0
      in 12 days we will find out wink
  • Old26
    Old26 6 October 2020 15: 27
    +3
    Quote: stas
    Our bourgeois S-400 will not be delivered to Iran, since they store their loot in the USA!
    Who wants to lose their blood-stolen?

    And what about the S-300 supplies? Then they kept the loot in three-liter jars?
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Have you tried to work and earn money for food?

    So you have to work for this. And he, as a "lightly wounded" man, can only do light work - hang labels. Pay no attention, Sergei, to this "personality"

    Quote: Lipchanin
    immediately after the end of the embargo imposed by the UN Security Council resolution on the Islamic Republic in 2015. And it expires on October 18th.

    So it will be extended further

    No, Sergei, it will not be extended. Then all the permanent members of the Security Council voted for the introduction of sanctions over the Iranian nuclear program. Now, given the fact that the United States withdrew from this agreement under a far-fetched pretext, and even such allies as Britain did not support them in this. She did not withdraw from the 6 + 1 agreement. So the maximum that can be - the US will impose sanctions, but these will no longer be UN Security Council sanctions and are not subject to implementation by all countries

    Quote: RealPilot
    You can put it. And it would even be nice.

    It all depends on the quantity. If we put a regimental kit, then it will not make the weather, both in terms of finance and in terms of protection. Moreover, in the event of a conflict, it could bring reputational losses to Russia. For they will be able to destroy a couple of S-400 divisions (regimental set). And what kind of high will rise in the Western media - you can imagine. The simplest would be a heading like "Russian S-400s could not do anything to protect Iran ,,,"

    Quote: RealPilot
    I mean that the operating radar station in Iran emits, and we see the reflected signal, including from the targets, the detection of which is otherwise difficult.

    A new word in radar ... There is such an early warning station of the "Gadir" ("Resonance-NE") type in the Shiraz region. The operating range is 1000 km. And our station, where the reflected signal will be received, one and a half thousand kilometers to the north, near Derbent, for example. How, at a distance of 1000 km, the reflected signal will overcome 2500, probably only the author of the post knows. As well as how you can transfer target designation to air defense weapons at a distance of 1500 km, then the radar has such a range of 600 km

    Quote: Rostislav
    And what does the reference to the embargo have to do with it? The ban concerns the supply of offensive weapons; there are no formal restrictions on the supply of air defense systems.

    The formal limitation is our statements, such as the fact that the S-300 and S-400 missiles are capable of striking ground targets as well. Formal but reason
  • iouris
    iouris 6 October 2020 15: 29
    -3
    Wonderful. So Turkey may also need additional missiles to replace those used up in the Black Sea region.
  • stas
    stas 6 October 2020 16: 31
    +1
    Quote: Old26
    Do not pay attention

    Here Russia does not pay attention to the Eaters of Russia. They are stealing for now, but they will soon get their hands on it!
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 October 2020 16: 35
    0
    Don't say GOP until you jump! C300 also did not fall under sanctions. And nevertheless, they pulled the rubber for a long, long time. There will be direct negotiations on this matter and pressure from the United States and Israel specifically on the countries that want to sell ... and sanctions for transferring dollars through SWIFT. And Iran itself will have difficulties in terms of money.
    PS But children still live and study there, and money is there too. And I don't want new sanctions.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 6 October 2020 16: 41
    -2
    Russia has no problem with Iran. But you won't be able to deliver, because there will be problems with us.
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  • Iris
    Iris 7 October 2020 09: 42
    0
    The period of time when Iran could be perceived as a situational ally was due to similar tactical tasks. The tasks were completed, and the situation - as a result - changed. Due to the initial difference in the goals of its presence in Syria, Iran has turned from a situational ally, at least, into a rival; and there is no guarantee that the process will stop there. Therefore, selling modern systems, even defensive ones, may turn out to be a strategically wrong step.