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A large detachment of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan fell into a tactical trap - statement of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia and NKR

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The Ministry of Defense of Armenia shares their vision of how the events in Nagorno-Karabakh are developing. In particular, it is reported that the army of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (unrecognized) used a "special tactical technique."


This technique is said to have been to give the enemy the illusion of retreat.

From the statement of the press secretary of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia Shushan Stepanyan:

The enemy, trying to quickly occupy the positions left by the Armenian forces, was trapped. Then, as a result of a powerful artillery strike, most of the Azerbaijani unit was destroyed.

The note states that the Azerbaijani troops suffered heavy losses - only irrecoverable ones - "more than two hundred."

From Shushan Stepanyan's post:

The enemy ended up running erratically.

The NKR stated that a large Azerbaijani detachment fell into a tactical trap, which was organized in one of the most important directions.

The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry traditionally denies losses.

Meanwhile, they continue to publish footage with the use of anti-tank weapons. On the staff of the Armenian defense department - destruction tank armed forces of Azerbaijan.


It should be added that on the eve of the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that if there is a need for the negotiation process with international mediation, then Turkey should be included in the group of mediators.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 6 October 2020 07: 32
    +8
    A large detachment of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan fell into a tactical trap - statement of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia and NKR
    Meanwhile, they continue to publish footage with the use of anti-tank weapons. On the personnel of the Armenian defense department - the destruction of a tank of the armed forces of Azerbaijan.


    I watched the video, and so I realized that the ATGM tank "got" in / under the lower frontal armor plate?
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 6 October 2020 07: 45
      22
      Turkey is already like a pain in the ass.
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 6 October 2020 08: 04
        +6
        You are apolitical, comrade ...
        [media = https: //youtu.be/wWKgKvViXPc]
        Putin and the Turk are brothers forever))))
        1. set of sets
          set of sets 6 October 2020 09: 02
          +2
          This is most likely geopolitics. We need independent centers of power to confuse the maps of the United States. Well, in addition, the Turks can play the role of a scarecrow, which forces us to reconsider relations with Russia.)
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 October 2020 13: 13
            0
            Quote: set of sets
            It should be added that on the eve of the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that if there is a need for the negotiation process with international mediation, then Turkey should be included in the group of mediators.

            Aliyev's statement only says that it is nothing more than an obvious result of foreign external control of Azerbaijan by Turkey and personally by Aliyev by Erdogan.

            Azerbaijan, in fact, has already lost its sovereignty in this war to Turkey and those who are behind Erdogan in the world now.
            It was Turkey, from the instigating one, to become the REAL party to this conflict from the subtlety.
            1. Scorpio05
              Scorpio05 6 October 2020 15: 16
              -15 qualifying.
              Quote: Tatiana
              Quote: set of sets
              It should be added that on the eve of the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that if there is a need for the negotiation process with international mediation, then Turkey should be included in the group of mediators.

              Aliyev's statement only says that it is nothing more than an obvious result of foreign external control of Azerbaijan by Turkey and personally by Aliyev by Erdogan.

              Azerbaijan, in fact, has already lost its sovereignty in this war to Turkey and those who are behind Erdogan in the world now.
              It was Turkey, from the instigating one, to become the REAL party to this conflict from the subtlety.

              Another unfounded vy-r of the Armenian troll.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 31
        +1
        Already the whole world is like a pain in the ass.
      3. Scorpio05
        Scorpio05 6 October 2020 15: 15
        -12 qualifying.
        And where is Turkey, may I be curious?
    2. Maz
      Maz 6 October 2020 13: 12
      +3
      Amnesty International announced the use of banned Israeli-made M095 DPICM cluster munitions in the shelling of residential buildings in Stepanakert by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces
    3. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 6 October 2020 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: Insurgent
      tank "got" in / under the lower frontal armor plate?

      And it seemed to me in the caterpillar.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 32
    +3
    as a result of a powerful artillery strike, most of the Azerbaijani unit was destroyed.

    Where is the evidence? ... not fake, of course.
    Both sides are practicing such stuffing ...
    1. the finish
      the finish 6 October 2020 07: 45
      +3
      They promised to provide video evidence today.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 49
        0
        We are waiting for documentary evidence. hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 57
          0
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          We are waiting for documentary evidence

          Documents from the General Staff?
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 43
            -2
            Documents from the General Staff?

            If from the Turkish General Staff it would be nice to look ... what they were not planning in the Transcaucasia and the Caucasus.
          2. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 12: 19
            -10 qualifying.
            https://haqqin.az/news/191004 Армяне бегут,оставляя оружие
            1. gurzuf
              gurzuf 6 October 2020 17: 56
              +2
              This is where the Armenians lured the Azerbaijanis.
        2. loki565
          loki565 6 October 2020 10: 41
          +4
          There has already been a video where, first, they knock out two Urals with pits, then the infantry goes on the attack and its art is covered, those who survived quickly retreat. It seems like it was under Matagis
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 12: 18
        -8
        https://haqqin.az/news/191004 Посмотрите на это,пока ждете доки.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 56
      -9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Where is the evidence? ... not fake, of course.

      Which ones?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 59
        -9
        Which ones?

        The conclusions of the pathologist ... the nature of the injuries ... and also the titles ... names ... surnames ... the number of the military unit and the circumstances of his death ... well, much more with a snack and vodka.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 08: 00
          -4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          The conclusions of the pathologist ... the nature of the injuries ... and also the titles ... names ... surnames ... the number of the military unit and the circumstances of his death ... well, much more with a snack and vodka.

          Well then, there won't be enough time for other articles. laughing
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 October 2020 08: 12
          +6
          Quote: The same Lech
          Which ones?

          The conclusions of the pathologist ... the nature of the injuries ... and also the titles ... names ... surnames ... the number of the military unit and the circumstances of death ...

          You only ask Armenians for such evidence ...
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 23
            +6
            You only ask Armenians for such evidence ...

            Ha ... belay Comrades Azerbadzhans share the proof of the losses of the Armenian side.
            It makes no difference to me ... they themselves prefer to kill each other there ... I call them to peace ... well, they do not want peace.
          2. Mr.X
            Mr.X 6 October 2020 08: 25
            +1
            Who else to ask? They themselves will not ask for it!
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 56
              -1
              There is enough information on the internet for an approximate analysis of the losses of the parties ... at least this one ...

              Syrian militant ... the boy is still ... killed, sent to his homeland in a coffin ... video here ...
              https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/1312701459469946884
              1. Grits
                Grits 6 October 2020 09: 30
                12
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Syrian militant ... the boy is still ... killed, sent to his homeland in a coffin ... video here ...

                But before he died, I traveled and saw the trees
              2. Insurgent
                Insurgent 6 October 2020 09: 45
                +1
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                There is enough information on the internet for an approximate analysis of the losses of the parties ... at least this one ...


                Video of the first days of the war: Syrian militants deployed by Turkey from the territories of the SAR, which they control, watch from the bushes as the Azerbaijani Mi-24 firing at the Armenian positions.

                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 11: 15
                  -14 qualifying.
                  How did you guess that the bushes are in Azerbaijan, and not in Syria ??? Are you a fakecomet?
                2. not main
                  not main 6 October 2020 20: 56
                  0
                  Shooting NAR from pitching! Certainly in the squares! The main direction is to withstand! Where will it go? What's the difference? The main thing is without entering the air defense zone!
              3. Curt
                Curt 6 October 2020 10: 11
                +5
                There he is dear
              4. Scorpio05
                Scorpio05 6 October 2020 15: 20
                -8
                Quote: The same Lech
                There is enough information on the internet for an approximate analysis of the losses of the parties ... at least this one ...

                Syrian militant ... the boy is still ... killed, sent to his homeland in a coffin ... video here ...
                https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/1312701459469946884

                The tweet from the fake account is, of course, the most truthful source) It is a pity, perhaps, who died for the fact that the Armenians held the occupied Azerbaijani regions of Valery Danelin, the Russian pilot of the SU-25, who entered the mountain. I flew from Armenia (!) To bomb Azerbaijani positions.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 October 2020 09: 19
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Where is the evidence? ... not fake, of course.

        Which ones?

        Like the Yankees - "We have proof, but we won't show it to you" lol
    3. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 6 October 2020 08: 22
      +8
      Where is the evidence? ... not fake, of course.
      Both sides are practicing such stuffing ...


      Curious. You were minus just because you asked for proof)
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 28
        +6
        .
        You were minus just because you asked for proof)

        A normal phenomenon ... a new detachment of information troops arrived in time ... I don't know the truth from whose side ... how interesting the battle is developing on our forum. hi
        1. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 6 October 2020 08: 32
          0
          On both sides, who will have time before)
        2. SSR
          SSR 6 October 2020 09: 09
          0
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          A normal phenomenon ... a new detachment of information troops arrived in time ... I don't know the truth from which side ..

          As for me, more from 404, moreover, those who left their native land and are now oozing with bile.
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 6 October 2020 10: 20
        +1
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Where is the evidence? ... not fake, of course.
        Both sides are practicing such stuffing ...


        Curious. You were minus just because you asked for proof)

        Actually, it was black humor, if someone did not understand.
        "Black", because the topic is not a joke.
    4. Albay
      Albay 6 October 2020 08: 34
      -7
      Another nonsense, then they shoot down 10 planes a day, then 50 tanks each, then they recaptured the village and all the bullshit, now the "great Armenian" tactical technique)))
      1. genisis
        genisis 6 October 2020 11: 03
        +6
        This bullshit is Hikmet Hajiyev, who seriously wounded Arayik Harutyunyan, “hiding in a bunker, calling himself the president of Artsakh”, who at the time of this bullshit was broadcasting a live message to the people of Azerbaijan. This is definitely bullshit.
        The Askars are filming any barn they captured. And they hang a flag on it.
        In Talysh, there is almost an honor guard with wreaths.
        Where is the video from Matagis? No. Because there are no askers in Matagis.
        And already from Jebrail there should already be such fanfare, Mom, do not worry. But no. No video.
        Only shot with trembling hands from a car passing at high speed, also from the Iranian side.
        Alibek, what is wrong in the "Azerbaijani kingdom"?
        By the way, how are things on Murovdag?
        Are you preparing to repeat the achievement of the 701st brigade? You would share your experience with them.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 October 2020 12: 19
          -5
          "And already from Jebrail there should already be such fanfare" The campaign has already been taken
          1. genisis
            genisis 6 October 2020 12: 37
            +9
            AND? And where is Jebrail?
            Vadim. You better continue the mantras, how Azerbaijani drones will defeat everyone, tell them.
            Or tell us why the forces of the two army corps of Azerbaijan have been milling about in the foothills for the 8th day already, without passing even the first line of defense, having lost so many people and equipment. And why don't drones help?
            By the way, maybe you know why Azerbaijan does not take the bodies of its fallen soldiers from the battlefield? Are they not even worthy of burial?
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 6 October 2020 13: 54
              -2
              "Vadim. You better continue the mantras, how Azerbaijani drones will defeat everyone, tell them." And I don’t need to tell you anything, since they have already defeated the complete superiority of Azerbaijan in the air.
              1. genisis
                genisis 6 October 2020 14: 11
                +2
                they have already won complete air superiority

                Yes. True, Azerbaijanis need land, not air. And on earth they still have.
            2. flicker
              flicker 6 October 2020 22: 29
              0
              For the 8th day already, the forces of Azerbaijan's two army corps have been milling about in the foothills, not having passed the first line of defense, having lost so many people and equipment.
              So this (loss of people) is bad not only for Azerbaijan, but also for Armenia.
              ---
              Aliyev will be swept away by casualties along with a military defeat in Karabakh.
              And he will be replaced by ... no, not fluffy bunnies, but radical Islamists. The latter will slaughter the secular Azerbaijani population and legitimize the Islamic caliphate now on the territory of Azerbaijan, along with a huge amount of weapons.
              ---
              How long will Karabakh stand? How long will Armenia stand?
              Not satisfied with Aliyev - they will get radical Islamists.
              ---
              Armenia should quickly return to the Kazan Treaty and immediately implement it under the guarantees of Russia - this is the only reasonable way out for Armenia.
              1. genisis
                genisis 6 October 2020 23: 11
                0
                Not everyone can look that far.
                However, the Armenians did not choose this path of development of events.
                I don't think that Azerbaijan + Turkey are ready to discuss the "corridor between Artsakh and Armenia" now.
                I do not think that the Russian Federation today can serve as a guarantor for the Armenians, who, according to the Kazan principles, will have the right to return to their places of residence: Kirovobad, Baku, Shahumyan region, etc.
                The Armenians were left with only one option - to fight until the people were demolished by the Aliyev regime, and then, together with the Avars, Lezghins, tsukhurs, tatami mats, Talysh and Russians, establish peace.
        2. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 6 October 2020 13: 05
          -1
          Quote: genisis
          And already from Jebrail there should already be such fanfare, Mom, do not worry.

          Well, why ... here near Dzhebaril - an abandoned position of "brave zinvors" with a whole piece of art, equipment and ammunition.
          https://ru.oxu.az/war/428321
          1. genisis
            genisis 6 October 2020 13: 29
            +3
            How many kilometers is it under Jebrail? So it can be said that Horadiz is also under Jebrail.
            1. kotdavin4i
              kotdavin4i 6 October 2020 13: 49
              -3
              Yes, you are not in a hurry, Azerbaijan does not let journalists under fire like in Khankyandi. as the saying goes, "If you have a pipe, there will be a whistle," and there will be videos and photos, and the restoration of the city after 30 years of devastation, too ... Azerbaijan has enough money for peaceful affairs.
              1. genisis
                genisis 6 October 2020 14: 13
                +2
                There were New Vasyuki, there will be New Jebrail.
                1. kotdavin4i
                  kotdavin4i 6 October 2020 14: 16
                  -1
                  Quote: genisis
                  New Jebrail

                  We'll rebuild it in the old place, don't worry ...
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  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 6 October 2020 07: 34
    +2
    The goose was hit by a rocket.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 40
      -11 qualifying.
      But what about the active defense systems ... really the tanks are not equipped with them ... then it's just shooting ... the tanks burn well after that ... even the crew does not have time to jump out. what
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 6 October 2020 07: 43
        0
        Only in Israel and the USA.
      2. vkl.47
        vkl.47 6 October 2020 07: 44
        -23 qualifying.
        The missile can be tondemic, then there is little sense in active protection.
        1. Sentinel-vs
          Sentinel-vs 6 October 2020 08: 14
          20
          Comrade expert, please explain how a tAndem, not a tOndem, ammunition will help when exposed to active protection? Or have you messed something up with dynamic protection?
        2. venik
          venik 6 October 2020 09: 36
          +8
          Quote: vkl.47
          The missile can be tondemic, then there is little sense in active protection.

          =========
          Yah? belay You, respected by the hour, did not confuse "God's gift" with scrambled eggs? Active protection - destroys the projectile for another approach to the tank! This is still BOPS has some chances to overcome AZ, and even then it is unlikely! And the COP - even if it is "tandem", even though "NOT tandem" - no options! request
    2. Horon
      Horon 6 October 2020 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The goose was hit by a rocket.

      I also got the same impression.
    3. Soho
      Soho 6 October 2020 17: 32
      0
      What kind of goose? There, the bottom sheet is clearly visible. What are you looking at?
  4. Reviews
    Reviews 6 October 2020 07: 38
    -8
    From some Soviet film about the final stage of the Second World War: "The newspapers write that our troops have withdrawn to prepared positions, the front has leveled off and this will allow us to launch a counter-strike."
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 October 2020 07: 43
      +3
      Quote: Avis
      From some Soviet film about the final stage of the Second World War: "The newspapers write that our troops have withdrawn to prepared positions, the front has leveled off and this will allow us to launch a counter-strike."


      If counterattack в The final stage WWII, then obviously we are talking about the German press with its encouraging publications ...

      Are you comparing the state of affairs in the Armed Forces of Armenia and the NKR Autonomous Region with that of the Germans at the final stage of the war? On what grounds?
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 6 October 2020 07: 47
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent

        If counterattack в The final stage WWII, then obviously we are talking about the German press with its encouraging publications ...

        Uh-huh. Quite obvious.

        Are you comparing the state of affairs in the Armed Forces of Armenia and the NKR Autonomous Region with that of the Germans at the final stage of the war? On what grounds?

        Just an analogy can be traced, in my opinion. Both sides say something that day (usually without proof) and pretend that "everything is going according to plan", even if their armed forces retreat. Who's lying more - I can't say.
        1. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 6 October 2020 07: 56
          +1
          And which of them is the USSR?
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 6 October 2020 08: 13
            -1
            Quote: seregin-s1
            And which of them is the USSR?

            Analogies rarely fit 100%.
            So far, everything looks like making a good mine with a bad game. In such cases, both sides lie. Who lies more - time will tell.
            1. Livonetc
              Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 33
              +1
              The analogy given by you does not fit from the word at all.
              Both sides at that time fought shoulder to shoulder.
              We try to reconcile them as much as possible and cool the ardor.
              Your analogy only provokes negative associations.
              Although perhaps you are pursuing the corresponding goals.
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 6 October 2020 08: 45
                -2
                Your imagination is too much played out.
  5. Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 October 2020 07: 39
    15
    The sanctions against Turkey have started.
    Canada has officially stopped the supply of components for the production of Turkish UAVs "Baykatar".
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 October 2020 07: 47
      +3
      Quote: Livonetc
      The sanctions against Turkey have started.
      France has officially stopped the supply of components for the production of Turkish UAVs "Baykatar".

      That may not affect (in the short term) the production of these UAVs. Most likely, the warehouses of Baykar Makina have accumulated a sufficient stock of them ...
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 6 October 2020 07: 48
        +5
        I was wrong with the country.
        Canada, not France.
        Of course, it won't affect the short term.
        The fact itself is interesting.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 6 October 2020 07: 51
          +9
          Quote: Livonetc
          I was wrong with the country.
          Canada, not France.

          You are ... be careful yes And then you know how it happens (not New Year, of course, but relevant) ...

          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 6 October 2020 07: 54
            +4
            So it's too late to drink Borjomi here.
            So in Bishkek, a color revolution flared up.
            Something lively, events flare up around the perimeter.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 6 October 2020 08: 50
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent


            One of them didn't look exactly at the calendar. lol Even the little ones know that Santa Claus delivers gifts for Christmas (at that, Catholic-Protestant, December 25), and Santa Claus for New Year, but for some time now it has become unclear, according to the secular or Orthodox calendar?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 6 October 2020 08: 53
              0
              Quote: Nagan

              One of them didn't look exactly at the calendar.

              Let's forgive them this mistake ...
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 6 October 2020 08: 55
                +1
                That's for sure. Otherwise they will be offended and will not bring gifts. lol
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 6 October 2020 09: 56
        +3
        Most likely, the warehouses of Baykar Makina have accumulated a sufficient stock of them ...
        The Turks have been making all the components for Bayraktar themselves for a long time.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 6 October 2020 10: 01
          +1
          Quote: 72jora72
          The Turks have been making all the components for Bayraktar themselves for a long time.

          Then, what kind of sanctions from Canada are addressed to Baykar Makina?
          Message Livonetc , fake?

          In addition, for example, a partnership of aircraft engine builders from Zaporozhye is known for the supply of engines for some models of the company's UAVs ...
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 6 October 2020 07: 54
      +6
      There are not many Baikatars there - mainly Israeli Elbit Hermes 450, kamikaze Harop and reconnaissance under an Israeli license issued
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 6 October 2020 07: 58
        +3
        On kamikaze it is possible so.
        But the messages regarding the use of shock UAVs are mainly about Baykatars.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 October 2020 07: 59
          +2
          Well Duc - advertising to Turkish comrades)). Plus the psychological factor - it worked in Syria and Libya, now it's effective here
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 01
            +1
            Do you have any information about the weaknesses of the Baikotars?
            If possible, please share information.
            hi
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 07
              +3
              Do you have any information about the weaknesses of the Baikotars?
              If possible, please share information.

              The Israeli comrades are strictly with this ... smile money in the morning in the evening chairs ... in the evening money in the morning chairs.
            2. Sentinel-vs
              Sentinel-vs 6 October 2020 08: 08
              18
              My eyes are already bleeding from local experts. Bayraktar !!! Not baikatar, not baikotar. Bayraktar - standard bearer, flagpole from Turkish.
              TONDE warhead ... Aaaa ... Expertise on the march.
              1. Livonetc
                Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 16
                +2
                Dear, why do you offend.
                For example, I'm not an expert in any way.
                Wrong name yes.
                And this, how does it affect their technical characteristics or facts of application?
                This is not a design bureau or general staff.
                It's just a platform where we can communicate, share information and learn something new.
                We are always grateful for science.
                And you can share information if you are not happy.
                hi
                1. Grits
                  Grits 6 October 2020 09: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: Livonetc
                  Dear, why do you offend.
                  For example, I'm not an expert in any way.
                  Wrong name yes.

                  In general, I just write "Tractor"
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 6 October 2020 08: 32
                +2
                Yes, even Bayrectum is the last section of the digestive tract of a respected person in Central Asia fellow
                A good UAV, but the disadvantage is, optics produced in countries with nonhil national lobbies of potential opponents (Armenians) and competitors (Jews) laughing
              3. Matematos
                Matematos 6 October 2020 09: 31
                +2
                Now accusations that you are a "grammar-nazi" and retaliatory attacks will follow. In general, strange people
              4. venik
                venik 6 October 2020 09: 54
                -1
                Quote: Sentinel-vs
                Not baikatar, not baikotar. Bayraktar - standard bearer, flagpole from Turkish.

                =======
                Not understood? What has the "baykotar" to do with it? The UAV is just called: "Bayraktar TB2"(" Standard Bearer ") .... Or am I confusing something? request
            3. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 6 October 2020 08: 12
              0
              I don't know much about UAVs, to be honest laughing
              I think a good drone
            4. Oleg1263
              Oleg1263 6 October 2020 08: 16
              +5
              The weak side of the Bayraktar is Tor M2, but they are not yet in Karabakh ....
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 6 October 2020 08: 34
                -2
                Quote: oleg1263
                The weak side of the Bayraktar is Tor M2, but they are not yet in Karabakh ....

                And also mountains and a stoned operator wassat You can shoot down absolutely everything
              2. Grits
                Grits 6 October 2020 09: 36
                0
                Quote: oleg1263
                The weak side of the Bayraktar is Tor M2, but they are not yet in Karabakh ....

                I think Buk M2 is even weaker ... Straight, even a laxative.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 6 October 2020 09: 58
        +1
        Baykatarov
        what kind of animal is this? Maybe Bayraktar (Standard Bearer)?
    3. the finish
      the finish 6 October 2020 08: 49
      0
      The Los Angeles Municipality expressed support for Artsakh in this way. At least so.
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 6 October 2020 10: 33
        +3
        The Los Angeles Municipality expressed support for Artsakh in this way. At least so.

        They look like vampires after a meal :)
        Do they even know what Artsakh is?
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 11: 51
          -2
          they pulled a disposable mask over a crocodile's face, with a pattern of a crocodile's mouth. Like an X-ray.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 October 2020 12: 42
          0
          Quote: Alex Justice
          The Los Angeles Municipality expressed support for Artsakh in this way. At least so.

          They look like vampires after a meal :)
          Do they even know what Artsakh is?

          They know. But they think that it is located between the Kuriles and Lithuania.
    4. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 6 October 2020 11: 39
      0
      The same sanctions were in place earlier, during the Turkish military operation "Peace Spring" (2019), then supplies were resumed in May this year. These sanctions are not critical, since the Turkish company Aselsan is capable of producing these components (here is just a matter of price). that's why we restored supplies in the month of May this year. Now the same will happen, it won't take long, they will restore supplies, otherwise they will easily lose the client.
    5. Brturin
      Brturin 6 October 2020 12: 18
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      The sanctions against Turkey have started.

      Since October 3, the Saudis have imposed an embargo on the Turkish
      "Turkish entrepreneurs supplied fruits, vegetables, other food products, furniture and hotel equipment to the Arab kingdom. The export volumes were estimated at $ 3,3 billion a year."
      https://riafan.ru/1315914-saudovskaya-araviya-vvela-embargo-na-tovary-iz-turcii
  6. 210ox
    210ox 6 October 2020 07: 43
    +2
    Both sides brag about their successes. There is only one fact - different weight categories of opponents Armenians will not be able to wage a war for a long time.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 46
      +3
      The Armenians will not be able to wage a war for a long time.

      The real war has not yet begun ... so far these are border clashes ...
    2. Graz
      Graz 6 October 2020 07: 53
      +7
      to seize territory, you need to actively use infantry (motorized rifle) subunits, with strikes from drones alone, wars are not won by capturing territory, at most some infrastructure can be destroyed
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 00
        +4
        Here I am about the same ... there is a lot of noise in the information space.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 38
        0
        There, further into the mountains, they will have problems with the use of UAVs and aviation and equipment, and those defending them will arrange unrealistic guerrilla warfare, they will be sad ...
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 6 October 2020 07: 47
    +8
    Judging by the reports of the parties about the losses incurred by both sides, the war should end soon .. There will not be enough population.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 52
      +5
      In 2020, the population of Azerbaijan will increase by 144 people and at the end of the year it will be 122 people.

      The population of Armenia as of January 1, 2020 exceeded 2.959 million.

      what Wait and see.
    2. Graz
      Graz 6 October 2020 07: 54
      +6
      I think all statements of the parties should be divided by at least 5
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 6 October 2020 08: 05
        +8
        Divide by ten
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 6 October 2020 08: 14
          +4
          Quote: MVG
          Divide by ten

          What for? "Write forty thousand! Why should you feel sorry for these bassoons?"
    3. Mwg
      Mwg 6 October 2020 08: 06
      +5
      Judging by the reports of the sides about the losses of the other side, both equipment and manpower should have ended there yesterday
    4. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 6 October 2020 08: 38
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      There won't be enough population.

      Diasporas will help people.
      1. ANB
        ANB 6 October 2020 09: 39
        +2
        ... Diasporas will help people

        Diasporas have already diligently excused themselves.
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 6 October 2020 10: 00
          +1
          Quote: ANB
          Diasporas have already diligently excused themselves.

          That's ....
          How is that?
          And so it was possible ???
          1. ANB
            ANB 6 October 2020 10: 53
            0
            Embassies and consulates are massively renouncing citizenship. Moreover, both of them. On Ria yesterday slipped through, did not guess the link to save. No one needs war.
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 October 2020 09: 28
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      There won't be enough population.

      Militia will be recruited from Russian bazaars There will be enough of both Armenians and, especially, Azeris in our markets for two wars.
  8. Tneburashka
    Tneburashka 6 October 2020 07: 52
    +4
    Direct Armenian radio
  9. Master
    Master 6 October 2020 07: 52
    +2
    According to the statements of the NKR army, every day 400-450 "destroy" and 2-3 planes that you)) According to my calculations, Azerbaijan has no aviation left at all.
    What are the losses of the NKR? 213 in total. As reported in Armenia itself. Interestingly, in the first 2 days. when everything was just beginning. Themselves reported 87 dead. Then, miraculously, over the past 8 days, only 100 were lost. And how beautiful the "tactical retreat" sounds, this is probably why Azerbaijan took as many as 3 tanks and several d30 howitzers the day before yesterday. Not to mention trucks and bk. No, these tanks were not abandoned. because they were hit. There is no damage to the vehicle, they are completely intact, this is just a tactical retreat. They specifically left these techniques. To then destroy the entire division with artillery
    And yes, I know. That Azerbaijan does not report its losses. But it's better to be silent. Than carry x..n such
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 6 October 2020 08: 32
      +5
      Oh yeah. The soldiers are killed, if not in hundreds, but in dozens, and Azerbaijan has no losses. Maybe Aliyev is simply afraid that the Azerbaijani people will ask their president for such a level of losses?
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 55
    +3
    Now the Azerbaijani side will explain: that there was no ambush, and in general, there was no word for their troops in this area. And the Armenians were firing at the positions they had left. Can it be enough to fight? hi
  11. iomoe
    iomoe 6 October 2020 08: 01
    +4
    Why talk about your tricks? The next time they may not bite.
  12. Mwg
    Mwg 6 October 2020 08: 04
    0
    "Special tactical technique" - you can turn off. Even techniques are used not simple or complex and tactical or strategic, but exclusively "special" and probably also "exclusive". And there will also be "VIP", "luxury" and "deluxe"
  13. svp67
    svp67 6 October 2020 08: 07
    +7
    A single tactful success is not enough that it would develop into a strategic turning point. One thing I will say is that the artillery of the Armenians works beyond praise, they are well prepared.
  14. ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 6 October 2020 08: 11
    +8
    Russia fell into a tactical trap, with any outcome of this war, Russia may lose the rest of its influence in the Caucasus. If Azerbaijan gains the upper hand, Turkey will further strengthen its influence in the Caucasus, and possibly direct penetration and the creation of military bases under our noses. If Comrade Pashinyan and his fellows are very likely to ask for help not from Russia, but for example from France or directly from the United States. Then the question of closing the military base and breaking the agreement with Russia will arise. And in our country, as no one was involved in the post-Soviet space, so no one is. This is not our war, but we do not need it at all! And if we don’t do anything, then either Turkey or a gayrope led by the United States will do everything for us.
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 6 October 2020 08: 38
      +5
      Will Pashinyan win? You are an optimist, my friend. How not to lose Karabakh to Armenia. But you are right, the Caucasian knot has tied Russia tightly.
      I am afraid that the Armenians will draw the wrong conclusion from this war: Russia has betrayed them! But they completely forgot that first they betrayed Russia.
    2. Lesorub
      Lesorub 6 October 2020 08: 39
      +2
      Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
      Russia may lose the rest of its influence in the Caucasus.

      I think the leadership of the Russian Federation should have thought about its influence on the former republics of the Union earlier - no matter how sad it sounds, the "West" is acting more decisively and aggressively taking away by the "Maidans" what was recently part of the USSR - now under the full influence of the striped and Europe.
    3. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 39
      +3
      It is possible to get out of the tactical trap.
      Not everything goes smoothly in life.
      It is glaano not to get into the strategic one by starting to support only one side with crude forceful methods.
      Turkey seems to be bogged down in such a strategic trap.
      And Azerbaijan is pulling along with it.
      The task of Russia is to help Azerbaijan break out of this strategic trap.
      We are neighbors for life.
  15. Master
    Master 6 October 2020 08: 15
    +4
    The tactic was a success. Armenia "retreated tactically" leaving equipment on the battlefield.



    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 41
      +5
      Dear, good health!
      Where exactly is the photo from?
      1. Master
        Master 6 October 2020 08: 48
        +7
        Good. Jebrail. Where tactically retreated
    2. AndreyS
      AndreyS 6 October 2020 18: 22
      +6
      Quote: Master
      The tactic was a success. Armenia "retreated tactically" leaving equipment on the battlefield.

      Oops the error came out)))) https://mod.gov.az/ru/foto-arhiv-045/?gid=12946
      ADDITIONAL AMMUNITION STOCKS ARE CREATED - VIDEO 4 May 2016 (Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan) Directly ammunition with the same data is visible in one of the photos. To be honest, I was very confused by the foreign letters on the shells, I think there are none in Armenia. I can assume that the rest of the photos are the same true)))
  16. Yurahip
    Yurahip 6 October 2020 08: 22
    -5
    Lured to Mosk ... to Erevan!
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 43
      0
      Hello Dear!
      Welcome to Moscow!
      Dear guest!
  17. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 6 October 2020 08: 38
    +6
    It should be added that on the eve of the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that if there is a need for the negotiation process with international mediation, then Turkey should be included in the group of mediators.
    An important statement. And its importance is not that Azerbaijan wants Turkey in the negotiations, but that, in general, negotiations are already being discussed. The Azerbaijani blitzkrieg is exhausted, and Baku does not need a protracted war either.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 08: 54
      +1
      With a protracted version, even in Baku it can blaze like in Bishkek.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 6 October 2020 09: 24
        +1
        A protracted option is possible only if there are supplies of weapons and ammunition to Karabakh. And so in a month ammunition and heavy equipment will run out. Defense after exhaustion will begin to crumble.
        It looks like Armenia itself is in no hurry to supply weapons to Karabakh. A simple example with drones, in Armenia they are and are mass-produced, but where are they in Karabakh? Why don't they adjust artillery fire, for example?
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 6 October 2020 09: 30
          +3
          There is no doubt that there will be supplies.
          Armenians will find options, that's why they are Armenians.
          As for the artillery fire from the NKR, he is already very effective.
          Why do Armenians not use drones seriously, of course.
          What follows will show how correctly the parties acted.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 6 October 2020 09: 37
            -1
            Only if Iran doesn't mind, there are no other options. Pashinyan is a pro-American leader; it is not profitable for Iran to supply a pro-American republic.
            1. Livonetc
              Livonetc 6 October 2020 09: 42
              0
              But it is beneficial for Iran to draw Armenia into its sphere of loyalty.
              Iran and Armenia are neighbors, and America is far away.
              And Pashinyan will not sit still, even if the situation in Karabakh somehow freezes.
              The Armenians definitely cannot hold all of Karabakh.
              And Pashinyan will be blamed for the losses and demolished in the near future.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 6 October 2020 09: 56
                0
                It is not enough for Pashinyan not to sit still, he needs to be replaced by the same American protégé. Iran can only benefit from Armenia and Azerbaijan utilizing each other as long as possible and as much as possible. In fact, this is the only straw that Karabakh can grab onto.
                1. Livonetc
                  Livonetc 6 October 2020 10: 20
                  0
                  I did not understand what is the benefit of Iran.
                  It is beneficial for Iran, of course, to pacify the ambitions of Azerbaijan and Turkey, since Iran has a very serious Azerbaijani diaspora and problems with separatism may arise.
                  How can Armenia interfere with Iran now?
                  1. Herman 4223
                    Herman 4223 6 October 2020 10: 50
                    +1
                    A country controlled by the United States on its border is a dangerous neighborhood for them.
                    And through Pashinyan it is controlled by them and can be used as a springboard and manpower to strike at them. As well as Azerbaijan in principle.
                    1. Livonetc
                      Livonetc 6 October 2020 10: 52
                      0
                      Difficult option.
                      Moreover, with a Russian military base on board.
                      Now, if Russia is squeezed out of Armenia, then Armenia becomes a threat to Iran.
                      And now it is beneficial for Iran to support Armenia and maintain the status quo in the Armenia-Russia link.
                      1. Herman 4223
                        Herman 4223 6 October 2020 11: 14
                        +1
                        There is nothing complicated in this option, Armenia controlled from the USA is a threat to Iran, and our bases do not play a role here. They may be asked to leave if something happens. Throwing in some weapons to exhaust both sides of the conflict is certainly possible. The question is whether they will do it and how they will do it.
                        The victory of Armenia is not beneficial to them.
          2. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 6 October 2020 09: 44
            +2
            In other matters, we will soon find out that if the defense in Karabakh does not fall down in November, then we have found a source of supply. If there is a collapse, then the miracle did not happen and no one helped.
          3. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 44
            +2
            The Armenians there began to talk about shells and pull something with them.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 6 October 2020 11: 20
              +1
              Do they have them? If not, then this is a long story, we still need to train the calculations and collect the technique.
        2. Grits
          Grits 6 October 2020 09: 43
          0
          Quote: Herman 4223
          A protracted option is possible only if there are supplies of weapons and ammunition to Karabakh.

          If, of course, the Armenians do not abandon equipment, weapons and ammunition, as in the above photo, then it may even last until a protracted option.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 6 October 2020 09: 49
            +2
            In war, one cannot do without this, the retreating loses equipment sometimes simply due to lack of fuel.
            By the way, both sides are losing their equipment, recently there was news about the seizure of two T-90s and three BMP-2s of Azerbaijan.
            1. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 45
              +1
              They could destroy the equipment so as not to give it away.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 6 October 2020 10: 55
                0
                I agree, if this is true, then this is a clear cant. It was possible to leave a couple of people for security and a couple of cans of gasoline.
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    2. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 6 October 2020 13: 24
      -2
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Azerbaijani blitzkrieg exhausted

      Good afternoon. Nobody planned a blitzkrieg, they are not fools in the General Staff of Azerbaijan. For 30 years in Karabakh fortifications and minefields, be healthy. The war is going on calmly and systematically, knocking out posts, knocking out reserves being pulled up - and on the march, they are in no hurry, realizing that the life of their soldier is more expensive than a UAV. The capture of enemy positions is mainly when the enemy soldiers retreat or surrender. And why negotiations - but there is simply still a hope that Armenia will understand that killing its soldiers in vain will not do anything good. Just withdraw the troops - no one will touch the civilians
      for example, there are more than 40 thousand people of Armenian nationality in Azerbaijan - and all this time no one has touched or will touch them. They are citizens of Azerbaijan - the rest is not important!
  18. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 6 October 2020 08: 57
    +3
    Most likely, at first they just scrambled, but then they pulled up the reserves, pounded with artillery, and as a result others scrambled.
    I would understand if the abandoned positions were completely mined, Azerbaijan took them and then an explosion followed with a bunch of victims. And so just a successful counter attack.
  19. yehat2
    yehat2 6 October 2020 09: 17
    10
    something is not celebrating an important moment
    tactics with an imaginary retreat are characteristic of well-trained troops.
    in this episode the Armenians showed that their army, albeit not very armed, was serious.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 6 October 2020 09: 32
      +6
      Their army is sufficiently armed and experienced.
      It's just that the superiority of forces and means is clearly on the side of Azerbaijan.
      1. Rokambol
        Rokambol 6 October 2020 16: 30
        11
        Quote: Livonetc
        It's just that the superiority of forces and means is clearly on the side of Azerbaijan.

        Especially when you consider that Turkey helped Azerbaijan to improve and modernize the Armed Forces.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 6 October 2020 17: 49
          +3
          there are reports that Turkey not only helped, but that long-range systems - UAVs, aviation, heavy MLRS installations are controlled by Turkish military personnel.
          in addition, among those killed by the Armenians there are already Syrians from the groups controlled by Turkey.
          This, if proved, then direct unprovoked aggression in the UN should receive a response.
          In addition, this explains the high level of skill in UAV operations.
    2. Bakinec
      Bakinec 6 October 2020 09: 34
      -8
      What another episode, your Armenian army is galloping towards Armenia, abandoning all equipment
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 6 October 2020 16: 42
        +3
        You personally, on a white horse. amble her?
        1. Bakinec
          Bakinec 6 October 2020 16: 48
          -2
          No, they have raised such dust from Baku. And yet, they are not on horses, but on their fours.
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 6 October 2020 16: 54
            +3
            We'll see.
            If they jump so briskly, as you claim, then by the end of the week Karabakh should be controlled by Azerbaijan.
            1. Bakinec
              Bakinec 6 October 2020 17: 29
              -1
              In my opinion, the main goal is to liberate the regions around N. Karabakh (where the Armenians do not live) and to force the Armenians to accept Lavrov's plan. Which Pashinyan rejected. There is no need for Azerbaijani troops to enter Armenian-populated areas. It doesn't matter after a week or a month. The main thing is that Russia does not interfere.
              1. Livonetc
                Livonetc 6 October 2020 18: 12
                +2
                Sorry for the denseness.
                And what is Lavrov's plan you mentioned?
                hi
                1. Bakinec
                  Bakinec 6 October 2020 18: 53
                  +1
                  1 / Liberation of 5 regions and then 2 regions around Karabakh
                  2. Opening of communication from Az. and Turkey
                  3. Return of refugees from both sides to their lands
                  4. Determination of the status of Karabakh
                  1. Livonetc
                    Livonetc 6 October 2020 19: 03
                    0
                    Thank you!
                    I may have a premature question for you, but I will.
                    How do you think.
                    Can Azerbaijan in principle agree to the creation of an independent state on the territory of Karabakh, if the above conditions are met?
                    Or only for a wide autonomy, within Azerbaijan?
                    1. Bakinec
                      Bakinec 7 October 2020 06: 23
                      +2
                      Maximum autonomy that is possible in world practice. But only as part of Azerbaijan
  20. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 6 October 2020 09: 32
    +4
    The trap is tactical, but so far the loss is strategic. The Ottomans press, the territory is squeezed
  21. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2020 09: 49
    +8
    to create the illusion of retreat for the enemy.
    The enemy thinks that we are running and we are carrying out a tactical maneuver. In BUSV, an organized retreat is a type of military action along with an offensive, defense, encirclement, coverage ...
    The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry traditionally denies losses.
    And who wants to admit their losses if, moreover, they are great? Judging by the way the representatives of Azerbaijan behave on talk shows (they are hysterical, loud, do not give a word to speak), the actions of the attackers are not as good as they want to show it.
    1. yehat2
      yehat2 6 October 2020 10: 07
      +2
      They are hysterical because there are no arguments other than revenge and greed for this war.
      And convincing them that you are right is difficult. Therefore, hysteria instead of arguments and logic.
      1. Bakinec
        Bakinec 6 October 2020 17: 34
        -2
        Watch the interview of Aliyev and Pashinyan on the program "60 Minutes" and you will see who is logic and who is hysterical. Or the Munich debate between Aliyev and Pashinyan.
    2. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 13: 20
      -4
      Д
      Quote: rotmistr60
      to create the illusion of retreat for the enemy.
      The enemy thinks that we are running and we are carrying out a tactical maneuver. In BUSV, an organized retreat is a type of military action along with an offensive, defense, encirclement, coverage ...
      The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry traditionally denies losses.
      And who wants to admit their losses if, moreover, they are great? Judging by the way the representatives of Azerbaijan behave on talk shows (they are hysterical, loud, do not give a word to speak), the actions of the attackers are not as good as they want to show it.

      Yes, ara, of course, we believe. Hitler, after the Kursk Bulge, also allegedly launched a strategic defense and leveled the front line)) Again, Armenian pathos and loud words. Aren't you tired of yourself?
    3. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 13: 28
      -3
      Are you talking hysterically?)) But they don’t scream like a drunken cabman (Semyon Bagdasarov), don’t hysterize and don’t give an opportunity to say a word to anyone like Sarkis Tsaturyan - a pretentious braggart who brazenly shouts on the air: Ara, Armenians are a nation of warriors)) Where were these soldiers 2000 years before the Russians came to the Caucasus? The answer is known: under different conquerors, of course in the most impartial pose, like Pashinyan is now begging world leaders to stop the hostilities, to prevent the Azerbaijani Armed Forces from recapturing their ancestral regions) And now the Armenians are calling the respected V.V.P, whining pitifully and howling in a bad voice : Save, help, stop. Ara, genocide. Putin bring in troops. And as they shouted "our Armenian army has stopped," "the invincible Armenian army", "our Armenian Armed Forces are the most combat-ready army in the entire region. It has become an important factor in the Middle East." Waa .... Is the water in Dilijan in second place? wassat
      Shame, clowns ...
  22. Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 6 October 2020 09: 53
    +4
    The Turks will be your mediator, yeah))))
    Perhaps at the Nuremberg trials, when you will be responsible for Sumgait and Baku.
    1. Rokambol
      Rokambol 6 October 2020 16: 27
      12
      Quote: Artavazdych
      for Sumgait and for Baku

      Some, let's not point the finger at Scorpio05, believe that there was nothing in Sumgait and Baku. And everyone who claims the opposite is for him liars, provocateurs and so on. He called me that already laughing
  23. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 6 October 2020 10: 21
    +4
    On the personnel of the Armenian defense department - the destruction of a tank of the armed forces of Azerbaijan.
    The footage shows a hit into a tank, destruction is not filmed, non-penetration is quite possible
  24. bogart047
    bogart047 6 October 2020 10: 26
    +3
    and to hell with them: let them kill each other and buy weapons. They would still send migrants back as reinforcements
  25. iouris
    iouris 6 October 2020 11: 05
    -3
    What's this. A strategic trap was set for one "great power". Together.
  26. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 6 October 2020 11: 27
    -6
    A cheerful mix between churkami and khachami. How should a real Russian behave in this situation, whom should he support?
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 October 2020 12: 51
      0
      Now this is Erdogan's problem.
    2. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 6 October 2020 13: 22
      -4
      The Armenians at least swore by their mother for certainty. And "Military Review" immediately publishes any, even unconfirmed and most dubious statement of the Armenians)
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 October 2020 15: 07
        +1
        You shouldn't be so stressed out here. All parties' statements are highly dubious. Since the war was caused by the internal causes of Azerbaijan and Armenia, the target audience is the population and the "elite". And VO can publish anything: you can't ban it.
        An attempt from the outside to understand the intention of the parties leads to bad thoughts.
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        2. Scorpio05
          Scorpio05 6 October 2020 19: 39
          -1
          Quote: iouris
          You shouldn't be so stressed out here. All parties' statements are highly dubious. Since the war was caused by the internal causes of Azerbaijan and Armenia, the target audience is the population and the "elite". And VO can publish anything: you can't ban it.
          An attempt from the outside to understand the intention of the parties leads to bad thoughts.

          After all, they do not publish any "dubious" or even any statements from Azerbaijan.
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  28. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 15: 25
    -6
    Quote: genisis
    This bullshit is Hikmet Hajiyev, who seriously wounded Arayik Harutyunyan, “hiding in a bunker, calling himself the president of Artsakh”, who at the time of this bullshit was broadcasting a live message to the people of Azerbaijan. This is definitely bullshit.
    The Askars are filming any barn they captured. And they hang a flag on it.
    In Talysh, there is almost an honor guard with wreaths.
    Where is the video from Matagis? No. Because there are no askers in Matagis.
    And already from Jebrail there should already be such fanfare, Mom, do not worry. But no. No video.
    Only shot with trembling hands from a car passing at high speed, also from the Iranian side.
    Alibek, what is wrong in the "Azerbaijani kingdom"?
    By the way, how are things on Murovdag?
    Are you preparing to repeat the achievement of the 701st brigade? You would share your experience with them.

    Cheered up? Rides growing. military aid or has already arrived? There is filming from Madagiz, your barracks are shown on Az.TV. By the way, did your Pashinyan get through to everyone? Or is it still howling into the phone?
    1. solzh
      solzh 6 October 2020 23: 00
      0
      Yours then reports to Erdogan every day. So how did your Turkish hosts help you? wink
  29. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2020 15: 28
    -5
    Quote: Herman 4223
    In war, one cannot do without this, the retreating loses equipment sometimes simply due to lack of fuel.
    By the way, both sides are losing their equipment, recently there was news about the seizure of two T-90s and three BMP-2s of Azerbaijan.

    Not capture (the Armenians, as always, like to boast) but about blowing up tanks.
  30. solzh
    solzh 6 October 2020 22: 58
    0
    Turkey should be included in the group of mediators.

    There can be no Turkey in the event of negotiations. All negotiations should be conducted only with the mediation of Russia and representatives from the UN, but not Turkey.
  31. Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 7 October 2020 01: 09
    -2
    Something to me and my Acting Half - this message imperceptibly reminds of the ideology and construction of the message about fake "cauldrons" allegedly created by "Donbass" ApAlchenie "in our South-East in 2014-2015." Ilovaisky [pseudo] "cauldron" - etc., etc. wassat
  32. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 7 October 2020 12: 11
    0
    A mediator and guarantor is one who enjoys the authority and trust of both sides, the Armenians of Turkey may not accept as a mediator)))
    And yes, the day before yesterday, against the background of the complete defeat of the NKR Armed Forces, there was nothing to negotiate about, according to him, what went wrong?