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French Press: Western Leaders Can't Solve Putin's Puzzle

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A large French edition of Le Figaro published an article by the columnist Laure Mandeville, in which the author tries to answer the question of how the West can conduct a dialogue with "Putin's Russia."


The article points out that many American and European leaders have tried to build such a dialogue, from George W. Bush and Nicolas Sarkozy to Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron.

The Le Figaro article says that, by and large, the dialogue with "Putin's Russia" each time turns into a "real puzzle" for the heads of Western states.

It was noted that the reason for this may be the anti-Western course chosen by the Russian authorities. This course of Laure Mandeville is considered the basis of the legitimacy of the Russian government. It should be noted that for some reason the author of the French edition does not consider the anti-Russian course in the West. The message in the material is something like this: the West "is trying to establish a dialogue, and anti-Western Russia will prevent this, since it is beneficial to the authorities to maintain their legitimacy."

The situation with Navalny is given as an example. The author writes that Emmanuel Macron appealed to Putin with a request to provide clarifications on the "poisoning". Without explaining, and what has to do with Macron in general, the French publication declares that Putin “refused to provide explanations,” saying that Navalny could have poisoned himself.

From the material:

It turns out that Putin practically does not take into account the opinion of his Western colleagues, including the French.

Generally speaking, it would be strange to take this opinion as a basis, especially considering that Western leaders are actually constantly exercising what sanctions and restrictions to impose against Russia, not seeing the "beam" in their own eyes.

The article says that Macron's hopes for a dialogue with Putin look "fainter", and the West cannot solve Putin's conundrum.
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  1. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 6 October 2020 06: 53
    40
    Anti-Western sentiments within Russia have been fueled by the West itself at all times, from the Crusades and numerous wars to endless sanctions pressure, as well as constant interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 October 2020 06: 56
      33
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Anti-Western sentiments within Russia have been fueled by the West itself at all times

      And here is the classic: "What about us?" They are with all their hearts to us and with all of democracy. And we all do not understand and do not accept!
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 07
        10
        Quote: Egoza
        And here is the classic: "What about us?" They are with all their hearts to us and with all of democracy

        And as a gesture of goodwill SANCTIONS
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 17
          +6
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And as a gesture of goodwill SANCTIONS

          Mikhal Ivanovich said that the sanctions were in his favor.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 20
            +4
            Quote: Malyuta
            Mikhal Ivanovich said that the sanctions were in his favor.

            So we half of the last century and from the beginning of this under sanctions. And nothing, we live
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 23
              +2
              Quote: Lipchanin
              So we half of the last century and from the beginning of this under sanctions. And nothing, we live

              You are confusing the greatest Soviet power with cheap show-off Mikhal Ivanovich, mainly for the plebs.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 29
                +5
                Quote: Malyuta
                You are confusing the greatest Soviet power

                I am not confusing anything. I remember the USSR well, and Russia. And I don’t know any of Mikhail Vanych’s show-offs without knowing. I just know very well that even under the sanctions, we are getting up, albeit slowly.
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 6 October 2020 18: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I just know very well that even under the sanctions, we are getting up, albeit slowly.

                  Where are you going up there? Are you all growing up? I remind you that the world is already living in the 21st century, and we are rolling back into the obscurant Middle Ages and our leaders will not break through the bottom, but they are persistently trying.
                  1. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 October 2020 23: 45
                    -1
                    You First look at the map of the world who lives in what century and then talk about the world.
                  2. Curious
                    Curious 7 October 2020 20: 23
                    0
                    What are you talking about? Everyone lives in the 21st century and Russia too! The West is rolling back in the Middle Ages! Excuse me, but I have been living in this West for over 25 years! I see where it is heading, how the standard of living is falling. My visit to Russia in 2018 was just a shock for me! Before that, I was in Russia in 1991. Russia is moving forward with leaps and bounds! The development of roads and infrastructure is the first thing that catches your eye. You can argue and say about the outback, about the regions, but have you been in the outback in the West ?! It will be even more trenchant than in Russia! And it is true!
                    1. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 7 October 2020 20: 26
                      +2
                      Quote: Curious
                      Excuse me, but I have been living in this West for over 25 years! I see where it is heading, how the standard of living is falling.

                      Come back to us, we will look forward to waiting for you to sip the steadily rising standard of living of Russian citizens together with you. hi
                      1. Curious
                        Curious 8 October 2020 03: 18
                        0
                        I can't go back! I'm not Russian :) But I'm going to move to Russia! As soon as the children become independent, we will move to you. At the moment we are studying immigration law and choosing a region to live.
                        Excuse me of course, but you clearly do not have the REAL experience of living in Western countries. They may have been a tourist, but this is not at all the same! Just don't talk about a loser living on loans and so on. This is clearly not my example laughing
                      2. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 8 October 2020 07: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Curious
                        I can't go back! I'm not Russian :) But I'm going to move to Russia! As soon as the children become independent, we will move to you.

                        Where toya has already heard it, like "we would be the enemy on the horns, only the skin is expensive and horns are not cheap now either."
                        And since you are not with us now, then it is better to sit and keep quiet in your foreign country, and we will figure it out without your useless advice! hi
                      3. Curious
                        Curious 4 November 2020 22: 55
                        0
                        laughing I forgot to ask you if I can speak here. Well, they really made fun! And about "we'll figure it out without your useless advice!" And where did I give advice ?! Give an example! I expressed purely my opinion about what I saw and about my experience of living in the West. And of course, figure it out for yourself, I don't pretend.
                  3. sleeve
                    sleeve 8 October 2020 05: 20
                    0
                    ABOUT! And I think what is the secret of negativism? Kicked out of work? Have you run out of money?
                  4. Curious
                    Curious 4 November 2020 23: 04
                    0
                    What is negativism? I would also ask for an example wink In order to compare, you need to have reliable data from both sides. Do you have them? I doubt it very much. I have - my personal experience of living in different countries, plus I have traveled half the world. It's subjective, but it's much more than yours laughing
                    And the last "Was it kicked out of your job?" The answer is that I am firing from work. There is no one above me! tongue "Have you run out of money?" - The answer is - again they did not guess! I'm certainly not an oligarch, but ... repeat
                  5. sleeve
                    sleeve 5 November 2020 14: 38
                    0
                    I really liked your answer. I took phrases from the dialogue and printed them out. I will adjust the frame a little later, it is not included a little. I'm serious. I honestly did not expect such an answer.
  • Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 6 October 2020 10: 30
    11
    We must declare war on Denmark.
    Why did they torture their prince Hamlet?
    This reason was proposed by Ostap Bender.
    To enter Copenhagen on a white war camel.
    More absurdity!
    As they are to us - we also need them! wink
    1. DLord
      DLord 6 October 2020 21: 23
      +2
      Good idea
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 6 October 2020 07: 13
    19
    And from time immemorial they have been striving for us with something, either with their Catholic faith, or simply as conquerors, or with their Western "values" alien to Russian society. Tellingly, they always try to convince us that this is for our own good.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 6 October 2020 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      And from time immemorial they are torn to us with something, ...
      always trying to convince us that this is for our own good.

      They do not know a Russian proverb: "Don't ask, don't dance!" hi
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 7 October 2020 13: 36
      +1
      Konstantin Simonov has a good expression about the "collective west": ... where not with swords, there with trade, where not with trade, there with a cross. At the same time, this “civilization” does not accept anything but a “sword” in response.
  • Private89
    Private89 6 October 2020 09: 13
    +7
    I do not understand why the West is so indignant, the liberal economic policy of "our" government has ceased to suit them? we are already exporting everything to the west, what else is needed. Nabiullina and Siluanov are doing everything possible so that there is no development in the country, and poor Putin cannot remove them, oh, probably more than once the constitution needs to be changed, otherwise there are not enough powers. And here the evil west is threatening us with a finger, so our people need to rally around a national leader, otherwise the boat will suddenly tip over and the capitalists will wet their feet. And the people, like barge haulers on the Volga, continue to drag this boat into the bright bourgeois future, though not for the people, but for a new class of masters. Such is the football between the capitalists of bourgeois Russia and the capitalists of the West, although the game is played with one goal.
    The West is certainly an enemy, but not ours are in the Kremlin either.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 6 October 2020 19: 23
      +2
      How is that what it takes? It is necessary that the vassal knows his place and obsequiously bows at the sight of the owner. Well, at least like Germany.
      Otherwise, it’s not clear: he pays tribute, but he allows himself to snap back and does not kiss his hand!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 October 2020 09: 28
    -1
    Quote: Egoza
    They are with all their hearts to us and with all of democracy. And we all do not understand and do not accept!

    Well, we cannot accept Western democracy with its double standards and "Maidaneks".
  • Same lech
    Same lech 6 October 2020 06: 58
    18
    I agree ... I will add to your commentary the constant lies that Western politicians pour into the ears of our people and our politicians.
    I have already stopped counting how many times the West has deceived our politicians, starting with Gorbachev by giving false promises and then brazenly breaking them.
    As a result, communication with the West resembles the communication of a scammer with his victims.
    Putin just turned out to be smarter ... a scam looks like his favorite game where he drives the balls around the field ... not always, of course, successfully.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 6 October 2020 07: 11
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      a scam seems to be his favorite game where he drives the balls around the field ... of course not always successfully.
      laughing It turns out that the crooks ran into a crook? wassat It's hard to disagree with you. yes
      1. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 6 October 2020 07: 30
        12
        Who comes to us with what and why, that we have from this and that!
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 6 October 2020 07: 43
        +2
        The article is not "about corruption in Russia", chill, Alexy fool
      3. meandr51
        meandr51 6 October 2020 19: 27
        +1
        Moreover, the bandit from the 90s with the biggest "gun". They are not used to grating between factions. They do not even understand that they can be the first to receive a bullet in the forehead ...
    2. Machito
      Machito 6 October 2020 09: 03
      +5
      The main lie of the West is the independent media, which are in fact just a department of the special services. For me, the word West is equal to the word Lie. Russia is constantly trying to find some kind of truthful dialogue with the liars, although it is high time to act like them.
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 6 October 2020 09: 07
        -9
        So he wrote, as if our Kisel-Nightingale TV are independent .. and broadcast their nonsense solely because they really think so ..))
        Why look for specks in other people's eyes when you yourself are with a log ..

        Russia is constantly trying to find some kind of truthful dialogue with liars,

        Yes, yes .. right ..
        And we are not in Donbass .. and Petrov and Bashirov went to the spire to see ..))
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 15
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      As a result, communication with the West resembles the communication of a scammer with his victims.
      Putin just turned out to be smarter ... a scam looks like his favorite game where he drives the balls around the field ... not always, of course, successfully.

      I am very sorry, colleague, but not smarter, but more cunning and for a long time behind the husk of words, many could not fathom what kind of fruit it was.
      But later he was even seated at a separate table at one of the summits.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 09: 29
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I have already stopped counting how many times the West has deceived our politicians, starting with Gorbachev by giving false promises and then brazenly breaking them.

      Western democracy was born on a lie.
    5. vVvAD
      vVvAD 6 October 2020 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      Putin just turned out to be smarter ... a scam looks like his favorite game where he drives the balls around the field

      They did not guess, otherwise the West would have taken him for their own wink
      The approaches are different: in the West they talk a lot and strive to deceive someone, therefore they do not even trust each other. If they agree - out of great necessity. But even here they are looking for benefits.
      We bring to the attention of our partners the correct information, but - it is not enough, because do not shout out of every iron. And they use a hysterical Western disposition - let them scare themselves, and we will calmly do what is needed.
      In other words, the West cannot understand us because it does not even try to go beyond the framework of its worldview and its own delusions. Apparently, their world fades when understanding of others comes.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 06
    +6
    Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
    ranging from the crusades and numerous wars

    During the civil war they robbed Russia not sickly
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 16
      +9
      Quote: Lipchanin
      During the civil war they robbed Russia not sickly

      Now there is no civil war, but the Russian Federation is being robbed 100 times harder.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 22
        -2
        Quote: Malyuta
        but the Russian Federation is being robbed 100 times harder.

        Yes, it gradually stops. The forest has already been settled.
        And by and large, Russian citizens steal much more
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 30
          +9
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Yes, it gradually stops. The forest has already been settled.
          And by and large, Russian citizens steal much more

          Colleague, stop talking nonsense! Even if all citizens of the Russian Federation are sewn additional pockets, they will not carry away as much in a year as they steal 100 families from the lake in one day.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 35
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            Colleague, stop talking nonsense!

            Ooooh, I see. There are two opinions.
            One is yours, the other is wrong.
            How much was stolen from Vostochny? And this is only one construction site
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 6 October 2020 09: 46
              +5
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Ooooh, I see. There are two opinions.
              One is yours, the other is wrong.
              How much was stolen from Vostochny? And this is only one construction site

              Unfortunately, you have no opinion. Some postulates have been instilled in many and you broadcast them, passing off as your own, a common thing ...
              "Eastern" is only a particular misunderstanding in the general and global system of plundering everything and everyone.
              I don't see any point in continuing the discussion with you, as well as explaining common truths to you, I hope you will document yourself someday hi
        2. Roman13579
          Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 26
          +1
          Yes, it gradually stops. The forest has already been settled.

          What have you solved with the forest there ??
          And where is it - on the sly ?? Maybe from Monday the dollar will fall at least 5 percent, but gasoline will fall in price by the ruble, but the price tags in stores will at least decrease in life ??
          Stops ..)) "Naive Chukchi youth" (c)
  • Errr
    Errr 6 October 2020 07: 15
    +6
    The feeling is that it cannot be otherwise:
    “Ah, what am I to blame?” - “Be quiet! I'm tired of listening,
    Leisure me sort your fault, puppy!
    You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. "
    Said and dragged into the dark forest Lamb.
    Ivan Andreevich Krylov, 1808
  • Far B
    Far B 6 October 2020 06: 53
    +9
    dialogue with "Putin's Russia" each time turns into a "real puzzle" for the heads of Western states
    Well, such a dialogue has become a real puzzle for the people of Russia themselves long ago, as there are some Western states. We cannot figure it out ourselves.
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 6 October 2020 07: 07
      +9
      Exactly! Itself would understand the whole depth of the depths and comprehend the cunning plans of the huge)))
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 6 October 2020 09: 09
        -2
        We ourselves would understand the whole depth of the depths and comprehend the cunning plans of the huge)))


        Here's another multi-move ..


        The Russian pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky, after a few months in Germany, sailed to Kaliningrad. This was announced on Monday, October 5, by the Prime agency with reference to data from the Marine Traffic vessel tracking portal.

        It is indicated that the ship was docked in the German port of Mukran - the logistics base of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

        The pipelayer moved slightly away from Mukran on October 2 and again anchored. Now Chersky is back in motion and headed for Kaliningrad, where he is to arrive on October 7
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 6 October 2020 07: 09
      +2
      Quote: Dalny V
      such a dialogue has become a real puzzle for the people of Russia themselves ... We cannot figure it out for ourselves.

      The main thing is that Putin himself figured out his puzzle, otherwise such zugzwang will come that it becomes sad.
    3. Per se.
      Per se. 6 October 2020 08: 12
      +1
      Quote: Dalny V
      We cannot figure it out ourselves.
      There is an amusing episode in the movie "Real Dad" ("Fenya" with translation). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmY4nQpk4sE
  • 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 6 October 2020 06: 56
    +8
    Something I did not notice the "anti-Western course" .... we would have parallel
    1. vVvAD
      vVvAD 6 October 2020 11: 22
      -1
      Well, how: we leave the door open, but this does not mean that after entering, no one will fly out of it. laughing
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 6 October 2020 07: 00
    +6
    Well, the West is back to hell, they say Putin is a great, almighty, multi-walker, etc. etc., the creator of cunning plans and we are very lucky that we have such a president! And the country was spat upon from all sides. Tactics however.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 04
      -12 qualifying.
      Putin is great, omnipotent, multi-way, etc. etc., the creator of cunning plans and we are very lucky that we have such a president!

      Well, Crimea is ours ... the success of course is half-hearted ... unsecured ... that a shrewd politician does not seem to be.
      1. Volder
        Volder 6 October 2020 08: 56
        +4
        Quote: The same Lech
        Well, Crimea is ours ... success is of course only half
        The referendum in Crimea shows that the success is far from half-hearted. But you don't care about the opinion of the Crimeans, right?
        ... loose ...
        Well, what about unsecured, when the ban on alienation of the territories of the Russian Federation is included in the Constitution of the Russian Federation? The presence of a strong army in the south of Russia confirms the consolidation (no one tries to fight back). The Russian flag in Crimea for 6 years already indicates that some other fixing tools are not necessary at all.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 6 October 2020 08: 59
          0
          But you don't care about the opinion of the Crimeans, right?

          No, don’t give a damn ... it’s you already drew your fantasies ... you didn’t understand the commentary ... Crimea is only half the battle ... the LDNR problem has not been resolved ... the problem of water supply in Crimea has not been resolved ... than the Ukrobanderites are active now enjoy ... be careful with your conclusions. hi
          1. vVvAD
            vVvAD 6 October 2020 11: 37
            +3
            Difficult, but possible.
            The problem is that the Russian excesses surpassed the Soviet ones, and even capitalistic ones were added. Where is the expert assessment of the USSR Academy of Sciences, here at least to achieve a high-quality implementation of what is accepted what
            I, of course, understand that the lag in electronics is critical, and it needs to be made up, but how much the almost 300 liards in the 14nm process technology will help in this is a question. And the shameful 9, it seems, - for the garbage reform on recycling 65.000 tons of garbage out of 650.000.000 tons annually and here are new payments - there is no incentive for regional operators for real recycling (paid for everything) - it is easier to burn and compress than to extract and recycle paper , wood, plastic, metal, glass. Where are separate containers in each courtyard, where are mini-factories for waste processing (no, we will grow huge ones, we will take everything there, and take money from people) of one kind or another, where instructions for the population what and where to dispose of, where are specialized collection points in the end ?!
      2. Roman13579
        Roman13579 6 October 2020 09: 12
        -7
        Well Crimea is our ... success of course half..


        Another question is .. is it a success ..))
        We didn't have it .. now we have it .. And what did it give us ??
        Well, there are a lot of useful sanctions, from which everything has doubled in price in 6 years ..
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 6 October 2020 09: 15
          +4
          And what did it give us ??

          Who is this for us?
          This gave me confidence that NATO would not be registered at our side in the Black Sea ... the threat from the alliance was real ... but the sanctions ... I think we need to rely on our own forces and not count on the help of the West ... it will be safer ... don't care about the sanctions ... we'll survive.
          1. Roman13579
            Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 24
            -4
            Who is this for us?
            Well, I can tell about myself .. about my relatives and friends .. Just about the people with whom I work or communicate .. - Here are all of us ..

            This gave me confidence that NATO would not be registered with us in the Black Sea ...
            How little a person needs to be happy ..

            .the threat from the alliance was real ... well, and the sanctions ... do not care about the sanctions ... we will survive.
            A masterpiece phrase ..
            As far as I understand, you agree that prices will double again .. if only from the TV they announced that the NATO threat has been stopped again ..))

            Is it possible to raise prices 4 times for everything ?? Or at 8 ??
            At what point do you suddenly realize what is really real and important for a person who wants to not just survive .. thanks to the "great strategist" .. and even call it SUCCESS .. but just live ..

            PS .. Half of the success from the Crimea boiled down to the fact that - we will survive ..
            And I didn't write it ..
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 27
              +2
              As far as I understand, you agree that prices will double again .. if only from the TV they announced that the NATO threat has been stopped again ..))

              smile I agree ... because I saw NATO bombing Yugoslavia ... what they turned Libya into, and if you approve of this, then we are irreconcilable enemies and I am ready to fight people like you .. dear Roman. smile hi
              NATO should be in Germany and not at the borders of Russia ... NATO is a real threat to Russia and not imaginary.
              1. Roman13579
                Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 47
                -4
                I agree ... because I saw how NATO troops bombed Yugoslavia ... what they turned Libya into

                But for some reason they didn't bomb us .. and they didn't turn us into Libya ..

                and if you approve of this, then we are irreconcilable enemies and I am ready to fight with people like you .. dear Roman.

                First, it is not clear what kind of THIS is ..
                Thanks to Stalin, we have something that is why we were not bombed and transformed ..
                Secondly - fight for health ..))
                I somehow also do not really respect alarmists who are ready to fight at the expense of a normal, quiet life .. Remain in torn trousers, but spend all the money on healthy guards ..

                NATO should be in Germany and not at the borders of Russia ... NATO is a real threat to Russia and not imaginary.
                It stands in Germany and the Germans live no worse than us from this ..
                And the threat is all sorts of nonsense in the head, akin to this ..

                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 55
                  0
                  Your arguments are not convincing ... they did not bomb us, including because Crimea became ours ... now our military has turned it into a real fortress ... there you can bury all NATO calmly ... in your opinion, a normal calm life is when you put a gun to my head smile .
                  As for the war with you ... I mean if you go to war against Russia as part of NATO troops, you will approve of their actions.
                  Your photo is, frankly, primitive ... shows your outdated stamp that is how Americans see Russians ... there is not enough balalaika and bears in this photo.
                  Update the training manual. smile
                2. Volder
                  Volder 15 October 2020 12: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Roman13579
                  Thanks to Stalin, we have something that is why we were not bombed and transformed ..
                  If this is not supported and developed, then sooner or later they will trample us.
                  Somehow, I also don't really respect alarmists who are ready to fight at the expense of a normal, quiet life ...
                  When Germany attacked the USSR in 1941, for some reason the Soviet people went to fight instead of "a normal, quiet life." There is a saying: if you do not want to feed your army, you will feed someone else's army. This will definitely not make life better.
                  And the threat is all sorts of nonsense in the head, akin to this ...
                  What is this "nonsense" if NATO has more weapons than Russia? Who is it against? The US military budget is several times larger than the Russian one. Why, if they are not going to threaten anyone? Apparently, you have not heard anything about US military intervention in various countries of the world and public threats to Iran and North Korea. Russia is a much nicer piece than any country.
            2. Volder
              Volder 15 October 2020 11: 52
              0
              Quote: Roman13579
              As far as I understand, you agree that prices will double again ... if only you can announce on TV that the NATO threat has been stopped again.
              Why did NATO continue to expand eastward after the collapse of the USSR, while the United States built military bases along the perimeter of the Russian border? Obviously not in order to threaten Russia - you say, right? And you will be wrong. The goal of the West as a whole is to prevent the recurrence of a bipolar world, as was the case during the Cold War. The hegemon of the United States and its dependent vassal countries need a unipolar world to dictate their democracy. Therefore, strengthening Russia is not beneficial for the West. On the contrary, it is beneficial to contain Russia, including sanctions. The struggle of some Western countries against Nord Stream 2 is evidence of foul play. As I understand it, you are in solidarity with the West, and are you ready to betray national interests in order to lower prices? And give Crimea as well. And the Kuril Islands to the Japanese. And Kaliningrad ... You are ready for anything so that prices do not rise. How little a person needs to be happy.
    2. oracul
      oracul 6 October 2020 07: 56
      +2
      Spat on it when you wipe yourself off and endure. In our case, it is not suitable, since the West, due to its centuries-old habit, tries to spit in our direction, but they themselves turn out to be spat upon.
  • Fungus
    Fungus 6 October 2020 07: 01
    +2
    Putin said correctly. Navalny's girlfriend poisoned him.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 06
      0
      Navalny's girlfriend poisoned him.

      Yeah, moonshine diluted by the Novice, they drank together and only Navalny got poisoned by the Novice ... a strong girlfriend ... and Navalny has already come to life ... jumped off his deathbed and runs as if nothing had happened ... miracles.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 10
      +4
      Quote: Fungus
      Navalny's girlfriend poisoned him.

      Sorry not until the end
      1. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 6 October 2020 07: 31
        +7
        Klavka is a cloddy girl! winked
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 41
          +3
          Quote: Mikhail Tynda
          Klavka is a cloddy girl!

          Sounds like Manka abligation laughing
      2. Dimy4
        Dimy4 6 October 2020 07: 37
        -1
        Sorry not until the end

        Apparently something hooked. wink
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 42
          +1
          Quote: Dimy4
          Apparently something is still hooked

          And we can "Novice" was overdue request lol
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 6 October 2020 09: 38
            +1
            The "newbie" is good, he just doesn't take reptilians ...
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 43
              0
              They cook it wrong there. That's why it doesn't work.
    3. Roman13579
      Roman13579 6 October 2020 09: 15
      -6
      Yes, this clown generally said, like Navalny himself in the kitchen Newbie cooked, and he poisoned himself with a specialist ..))
      This is from the same series "She Drowned" ..

      So it is not surprising that the West reacts to it this way .. I read it myself - I was taken aback by what I saw ..))
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 6 October 2020 11: 50
        -3
        Quote: Roman13579
        Yes this clown

        throws again here, and so for half a year. yes laughing
  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 October 2020 07: 04
    +1
    the anti-Western course chosen by the Russian authorities.
    ...All? Will there be no Western investments? smile
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 21
      +3
      Yes, you are encroaching on sacred. Sanctions are for everyone who we are cool. And they themselves invest quietly, and the market of our shares is at the bottom, I don’t want to come in. Even I didn’t see that 2 pension funds left our markets. hi
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 October 2020 07: 25
        +1
        Why, you are encroaching on sacred things.
        ... God forbid, we are partners, as we are told. lol hi
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 40
          +6
          The sanctions are the clearing of the market from competitors. Siemens was removed, and General Electric entered, The holy place is never empty. Something that a Chinese heavy truck brought to Murmansk, yesterday he fumbled at Rybachy. Usually he drags drilling. The Chinese began to quietly load the SMP. good
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 6 October 2020 07: 41
        +2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Even I have not seen that 2 pension funds left our markets

        How to see it? I also want to be aware of!))
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 47
          +1
          Read the comments at the auction, where the "mother's mother" will be sold for profit. hi
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 07: 25
      +5
      ..All? Will there be no Western investments?

      All Western investments are aimed at exporting our resources ... for example, the same unprocessed timber ... Americans will not share their high technologies with us. smile
      It would be better not to have these Western investments ... our country becomes too dependent on the whims of the West after that ... it always ends badly for us.
      Historically, we will have to develop ourselves under external pressure.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 43
        +2
        Let's see how the next company will end with the forest. How many of them have already been, how round timber and boards were transported! hi
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 44
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . for example the same raw wood ...

        Well, GDP has already begun to cut off oxygen for them
      3. parusnik
        parusnik 6 October 2020 07: 54
        +2
        Historically, we will have to develop ourselves under external pressure.
        .. About 10 years old we will digest this thought, and in the 40th year of the existence of "new democratic" Russia we will begin ... Before that, understanding did not exist and does not exist ... Little eyes, are they just starting to open up? .. Why are there numerous economic forums on which Western investors flock to, and happily write about the results for which lard in dollar terms have been concluded contracts? Birch sap? smile
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 42
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      Will there be no Western investments?

      There will be. New sanctions
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 October 2020 08: 00
        +1
        There will be. New sanctions
        ..It's so good. Import substitution will go. Russian business, large, will invest money in Russian production, set up factories, enterprises, we will throw out China with Russian iPhones. We will nationalize Renault-Nissan-VAZ, expel foreign directors from the councils of the same name of gas and oil companies, squeeze Rusal back ... smile
        1. martin-159
          martin-159 7 October 2020 05: 46
          0
          Not so fast, otherwise we'll be in paradise before grandfather.
  • askort154
    askort154 6 October 2020 07: 09
    +7
    .... Putin "refused to provide explanations," saying that Navalny could have poisoned himself ....

    Something can be explained only by the fact of the materials of the incident, and a joint investigation. But this stubbornly does not allow to do, what with Skripal, what with Navalny. So, there is an impudent one-sided game. Sometimes it seems that all this is happening not at the state level, but in kindergarten. International politics is degrading, day after day. Therefore, Putin correctly answered him that he could have poisoned himself, and you prove that this is not so.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 October 2020 07: 45
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      Degrading international politics, day after day

      Because it is not professionals who go to it, but blabbats. The one who promises more is on a horse
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 October 2020 09: 18
        +1
        It is also an indicator of the general decline in the intelligence of politicians, since politics, it has always been dirty, and now it is prohibitive, the smart do not really strive there ...
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 October 2020 09: 39
          0
          Quote: cniza
          there the smart do not really strive.

          And they will not be allowed. The clever will not promise what he cannot do
          Over there prezikloun promised so much ... and did nothing
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 October 2020 09: 47
            +1
            In order not to start up, you also need to understand something, and the general level is already below the plinth ...
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 October 2020 07: 13
    +4
    The mind cannot understand Russia, and if there is no mind at all, you cannot understand anything! !! This is the whole west!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 6 October 2020 07: 19
    +3
    Western leaders struggle to solve Putin's conundrum

    Is it like news?
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 6 October 2020 07: 23
    +3
    The article is intended for the Western layman living in a different information field. What is the point of discussing it here?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 October 2020 08: 40
      +2
      What is the point of discussing it here?
      Well, like, since Putin is scolded in the West, then he is doing everything right. do not know what this informational support is for? elections are not expected, the age has been raised? Perhaps soon everyone will self-isolate again.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 October 2020 07: 30
    +3
    Let them start themselves, exceptional ones! Let them figure out with all the foolishness who has more rights for gay people. We are not. Listen while Lukashenka AGon to you without diplomatic curtsy his and our point of view brings to your disgusting behavior. hi repeat
  • Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 6 October 2020 07: 33
    0
    Never plot anything against Russia, for any of your cunning she will answer with her unpredictable stupidity
    1. askort154
      askort154 6 October 2020 08: 07
      +5
      Angelo Provolone ....Never plot anything against Russia, for any of your cunning she will answer with her unpredictable stupidity

      And more literate and intelligent people said:
      "Do not expect that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever ... With the Russians, it’s worth it - either play fair, or not play at all”
      (Otto von Bismarck).
      1. bar
        bar 6 October 2020 09: 18
        +2
        It's worth it with the Russians - either play fair, or not play at all

        The golden words of an intelligent person good
  • tralmaster
    tralmaster 6 October 2020 07: 56
    +3
    After all, the West leaves us no other than in the case when we are pinned into a corner to do away with their capital, because there is no other way to defeat them. And again, go along the path of socialism only in Europe.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 09: 15
      +1
      Moreover, they have already done this and want to repeat ...
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 6 October 2020 08: 24
    -2
    No wonder they cannot understand. Merkel stated back in 2014
    During a conversation with the American leader, the German Chancellor said that after talking with Putin, she was not sure whether "Mr. Putin kept in touch with reality." As Merkel put it, the Russian leader is "in another world."
    1. bar
      bar 6 October 2020 09: 16
      +2
      It is only true that they are in different worlds. But which of them is in real life, a big question for Ms. Merkel herself.
  • Yurahip
    Yurahip 6 October 2020 08: 28
    0
    So Bismarck seems to have said about it that Russia will respond to their cunning with such (as it seems to them) stupidity!
    And then they scratch the turnip: is this stupid ?!
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 09: 14
      +1
      They hear only themselves and their interests, and they do not accept to look from the outside ...
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 October 2020 08: 52
    +1
    I am interested in the commentators of this article on purpose or thoughtlessly confusing a supporter of liberal market relations with Russia. It was he who introduced the word partners, because he sincerely considers the West to be his partner. For him, not residents of Russia, his own, whom he does not give up. It was during his reign that boards were hung to the Mannerheims, the koliizurengoya performed, and memorials were erected in honor of the destroyer of the country using public money.
    praise him praise, he will lead you through the deserts for another 10 years, until a generation of grandfathers grows up that does not remember.
  • cniza
    cniza 6 October 2020 08: 58
    +3
    It should be noted that for some reason the author of the French edition does not consider the anti-Russian course in the West.


    As always, they don't want to look in the mirror ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 October 2020 11: 00
      +2
      They are watching! Only they have specfis mirrors!
      In them falsehood, is reflected by the truth and vice versa, the truth looks for falsehood!
      Sharpie they are still the same in everything!
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 October 2020 11: 56
        +2
        Well, yes, there is such a fairy tale - "the kingdom of crooked mirrors" is definitely about them ...
  • yfast
    yfast 6 October 2020 09: 03
    +1
    Are they pretending to be fools in the West? If Navalny is persecuted, it is exclusively "Novichok", if we are to take the evidence to the west, then it is exclusively the shadow leader of FBK Maria Pevchikh, who lives in Landon.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 09: 12
      +2
      They are on the principle - we will assert what we want, but let them be justified and while it works ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 October 2020 10: 58
        +1
        Hi soldier
        Westerners then cut such a world that it would always and in everything be more to the right of the right.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 October 2020 11: 55
          +3
          Good time! hi
          They always succeeded, but they stumbled on us and this infuriates them even more.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 October 2020 12: 32
            0
            We have a good family memory, and there is plenty of combat experience. How many vorogs found their graves on our land, you can not count!
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 October 2020 12: 46
              +2
              This is true, but it's better without war, let them go about their business and don't come to us ...
    2. bar
      bar 6 October 2020 09: 13
      +3
      In order to hang noodles on the ears of the Western electorate, Western propaganda does not have to bother. There they eat everything anyway.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 October 2020 12: 30
        0
        We already had a snack there. Now such ideas are wandering with them, it is even strange to find out about it ... all the more, those ideas have nothing to do with us!
        It's just interesting to see how it all ends.
  • bar
    bar 6 October 2020 09: 11
    +1
    Western leaders struggle to solve Putin's conundrum

    Maybe because they are looking for a black cat in a dark room that is not there? recourse
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 6 October 2020 09: 12
    +4
    Do not understand what is the puzzle? The puzzles will stop when they stop twisting Putin's words. They write that one hundred Putin said that Navalny poisoned himself. In fact, Putin said "The reason for the poisoning is not fully known, maybe he has domestic poisoning. Agree - not the same thing. A flight of imagination - and a puzzle begins.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 October 2020 10: 10
    +2
    How many centuries have they been breaking firebrands !!! And just to live in peace, do not want to try to be good neighbors ???
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 6 October 2020 10: 24
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      And just to live in peace, do you want to try to be good neighborly ???

      Then what will they provide for the "European standard of living"?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 October 2020 10: 56
        +2
        Yes, they had enough colonies, I don't want to rob!
        Now it has become more difficult, of course, but they have not begun to open their company to Russia either.
        Greed, without measure, is the only incentive that can explain a lot.
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 October 2020 11: 58
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      How many centuries have they been breaking firebrands !!! And just to live in peace, do not want to try to be good neighbors ???


      They always robbed and lived, and live, at the expense of others ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 October 2020 12: 36
        +1
        They are really trying to continue the "glorious" history of their ancestors! Of course, they changed the methods, but not completely and not always!
        Whatever you call western "investments", it will still be a robbery for those who hate them!
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 October 2020 12: 49
          +2
          Yes, they began to throw "sweet" baits in the form of investments and loans, and then everything is classically into bondage ...
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  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 6 October 2020 10: 38
    +1
    Western democracy is already enough for our eyes, we tried it in the 90s and 00s, so what? Russia almost collapsed, but to the great disappointment of the West, it survived and began to rise, albeit slowly, unstably, but itself without democratic measures.
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 October 2020 12: 48
      -1
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Russia nearly collapsed

      Do you think "a little"? It would be better if the USSR hit the US and NATO.
  • iouris
    iouris 6 October 2020 10: 55
    0
    Is this a "puzzle"? Well, they won't rack their brains. Chopped up.
  • v.biseroff
    v.biseroff 6 October 2020 12: 04
    0
    I remember Krylov's fable about how a wise mechanic tried to open an outlandish casket and could not, and I remember the ending, "and the casket just opened!" As my father used to say, all the trick is in simplicity, my son! And yet there are many scientists, but few smart ones! Do not understand further, gentlemen!
  • Antokha
    Antokha 6 October 2020 13: 21
    0
    Yes, just talk to him: tell him the truth, and there will be a constructive dialogue. And then they are surprised: we spit on him until he sees, we push the rags to pour dirt on him 24/7, we hate his country, but we either don't want to explain why, or we don't know ourselves. Well this is a clinic. Well, what kind of dialogue can there be? It's good that he talks to them at all. If this was communication of ordinary people, the conditional Putin's side would simply have abandoned it a long time ago.
  • Antokha
    Antokha 6 October 2020 13: 24
    0
    In Russia, deaths and diseases occur every day. What, Putin should personally participate in all of them? Why doesn't he know that I had a cold yesterday? And if he was asked about it?
    Why and how Navalny got poisoned, if Putin should know who he was at all, one should ask Navalny and the participating doctors and law enforcement agencies.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 6 October 2020 14: 04
    0
    read, but did not understand-what exactly is the "Putin's puzzle" from the title, which they solve - racking their heads? Or just a headline for the catchphrase? from the series about "multi-pass"? Didn't understand what the article was about at all .. That he doesn't answer them sometimes? the aftertaste of some kind of propaganda after reading ..
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 6 October 2020 14: 40
    +1
    Strange, we here in Russia have long understood who this is Mr. Putin))
  • Rokambol
    Rokambol 6 October 2020 16: 37
    10
    There is no way the West can solve Putin's conundrum.

    Maybe the West cannot solve the puzzle because there is no puzzle? And the West is simply trying to behave with us like "master and servant"?
  • Crabong
    Crabong 6 October 2020 19: 17
    -1
    How can you conduct a dialogue with elites who pose an existential threat to Russians?
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 6 October 2020 20: 43
    0
    Gospidya! Morons not frightened! They invented a game themselves! We set the rules themselves! Now they are afraid that they do not want, all are adequate, to play by their rules!
  • RVAPatriot
    RVAPatriot 7 October 2020 00: 26
    0
    "It turns out that Putin practically does not take into account the opinion of his Western colleagues, including the French."
    Finally they realized it, here ... Well, actually, funny ...
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 7 October 2020 00: 30
    0
    if Tyutchev is remembered, it will be easier for them: "" Russia cannot be understood with the mind, cannot be measured with a common yardstick, it is special to become, in Russia you can only believe. "
  • Gunther
    Gunther 7 October 2020 23: 01
    +1
    and who is this macron grabbed by the shoulder in the photo?
    in any way a monogolic rower on galleys, he did not admit - the rich will))))
  • sleeve
    sleeve 8 October 2020 05: 16
    0
    In general, of course, it is bad that the level of politics in the West has dropped to newspaper hysteria. How to work with this? Yes, it is incomprehensible at all. And the level of state organization once again becomes concrete-like, incapable of changes in time. Judge for yourself: one of the problems (powerful and serious) was generated by practically one speech by Merkel about accepting refugees. It is clear that before this Libya was gouged and Syria and Afghanistan stirred up. But the policy of "admission" was simply announced and that was it. Without preparation, without discussion with the population. Hold on ... Again, something that globally changes the current, far from the most effective way of life is simply not traced. Does this suit the population? Not at all. The level of excitement is off scale. Strikes almost every month are a systemic crisis, not a struggle for "handouts." It is clear that the general level of the elite is also "piling up" downward. I dare to assume that the inability to assess the situation and set clear and necessary goals is close. As a result, the picture is already close to satire. In the course of a massive conflict, support and contacts may begin to be provided to one, and perhaps not a decisive force from some unknown background, and just as suddenly everything will stop. Or, on the contrary, a not particularly important episode that carries more news than a political result is blown up to the heights of global governance regulation. And the "decisions" in such cases "require" the upper echelons from the upper echelons. Moreover, the real picture of the causal relationship may be completely different.
    How can we open the "Putin's riddle" here?