Events in Kyrgyzstan: Protesters took control of several administrative buildings in Bishkek

The post-Soviet space continues to be in a fever. The scenario is typical of recent times: mass protests after the election results announced by the country's CEC. If one or several political forces are not satisfied with these results, then they believe that the results should certainly be revised or new elections announced. This is how they acted in their time in Ukraine, this is how they operate in Belarus, for Kyrgyzstan such speeches and protests are also difficult to call a novelty.

To date, according to local news sources, the riots have already led to the fact that at least 13 people are in intensive care, one person has died. In total, about 600 people sought medical help.

Protesters have already taken control of several administrative buildings in Bishkek, including the so-called White House, which houses both the Kyrgyz parliament and the presidential administration.

Against this background, it became known about the release of the ex-president of the country Almazbek Atambayev from the jail of the State Security Committee. He left the building of the remand prison to the cheers of the crowd.

According to the press secretary of the President of Kyrgyzstan, the head of state (Sooronbai Jeenbekov) did not leave Bishkek. At the same time, Jeenbekov was forced to leave the administration building at about 2 am local time.

Today, the president is reportedly to meet with the leaders of 16 parties that participated in the elections. 12 of them said they were dissatisfied with the election results.

Comments

[Same lech]

It looks like an internal showdown ... what is the degree of participation of external forces there, this still needs to be clarified. But when almost synchronously it starts to blaze on the borders of Russia in neighboring republics, it involuntarily comes to mind that this is not accidental.

[Deniska999]

The entire post-Soviet space is awaiting reformatting, since nowhere has an adequate development model been proposed. Central Asia generally slipped into a state of khanates.

[Pilot]

This is the fate of the beginning of reformatting, most likely next year, after the Duma elections, when Edro will again “gain” the majority of seats in the Duma.

[Same lech]

after the Duma elections, when Edro will again “gain” the majority of seats in the Duma.

This topic is sensitive for the Edrosov ... don't make them nervous.

[Pilot]

Quote: The same Lech

after the Duma elections, when Edro will again “gain” the majority of seats in the Duma.

This topic is sensitive for the Edrosov ... don't make them nervous.

And that's right, the Fungus immediately fidgeted ... Better to calm them down .. insolently.

[zadorin1974]

Greetings Aleksey. The topic of future elections is vital. Who can unite the people against the Edros? We will not consider the LDPR and the Communists from the beginning, both parties have their own circle of interests, but for almost 40 years under real power they have only dropped themselves. misunderstanding initially tried to stir up the youth, especially the part that considers itself smart and smart and advanced, but did not realize itself above the manager in "Eldorado" or "KFS". In service and competitions, four years ago, communicating with young people from them for Leshinka was just drooling. Now they are merging with the conversation in silence, there is nothing to answer. There are no real, strong politicians who have not frozen themselves with ties to the "pro-Westerners" or the current government. Note that before the elections, all the sleeping people will start chasing and trying to jump into the "last vogon" .Only there will be again the level of Ksyusha Horses.
So, once again we get FARS and dances with tambourines, and not elections.

[Pilot]

Quote: zadorin1974

There are no real, strong politicians who have not frozen themselves in contact with "pro-Westerners" or the current government.

Namesake, it's just that you don't see such a politician, but the authorities saw a real threat for themselves and quickly packed this politician under house arrest under a trumped-up charge, which they can’t stretch for a prison term. If he is not quietly killed with a heart attack or a stroke, then there is a chance for positive changes in the country, people support him. I hope you understand who I mean ...

[zadorin1974]

Good Alexey. I don't see a worthy person so far to whom I can entrust my future and my children’s future, even at the local level. ))))))))

[Pilot]

Why should I be afraid, it is not difficult for me to give a surname, in Russia it is not prohibited yet. I just wanted to look at your political horizons, or maybe you really don't know this politician, this also happens. Will you name it yourself or help me?

[zadorin1974]

Better name it)))) I'm afraid to call it wrong)))) Is he even in the country? or sick)))))
But seriously, it's sad at our periphery.

[Pilot]

Quote: zadorin1974

Better name it)))) I'm afraid to call it wrong)))) Is he even in the country? or sick)))))
But seriously, it's sad at our periphery.

[zadorin1974]

Thank you, read it, think it over.

[K-612-O]

A mixture of suslovism and incoherent slogans from Kozyrev's traitor. Don't hurt yourself.

[K-612-O]

Class, Kozyrev's henchman and traitor to national interests! What a charm, in the days of drunken Borka, only under the red flag.

[vVvAD]

Yes, you sho, he has changed dramatically since then, even changed his shoes.

[A.TOR]

So far, I don't see a worthy person to whom I can entrust my future and that of my children.

Poor you, poor ... you do not need a person, a system of checks and balances in politics, based on the complete and absolute control of society over politicians. We need real political parties expressing the views of different strata and groups of the population, which agree and build a reasonable resultant line of development that suits everyone.
And the personality in itself in a modern, very complicated society, will not solve anything, only slogans will be thrown. Problems will be blamed on "external enemies"

[zadorin1974]

At the expense of personality in history and society, your opinion is controversial. Parties will all be formed from the leader. Full control of politicians by the people is a utopia.

[syndicalist]

It was a utopia before the onset of the information age. Now everything is quite real. In reality, it is not easy to control the life of any politician to the point of watching his actions in the outhouse. It's realistic to do without politicians altogether. We are here discussing political problems and sometimes even succeed in reaching consensus. Believe me, in the State Duma there is not even a quarter of such an understanding of the topic as in many social information platforms. It remains only for everyone to add a button to participate in making a particular decision.

[zadorin1974]

Good Dimon. At the moment, full control is a utopia. Computer technologies do not yet guarantee the safety and security of information (like the law and the tongue). There is a direction in the science fiction EVE, with a state controlled by AI. But before that we are skiing))) the account of what we are discussing here and finding consensus is controversial, and we go over to the individual and do not divide money.

[syndicalist]

Even today's technologies provide a guarantee of FULL safety and security. You are not afraid to make transactions in Sberbank Online, are you? We are not even talking about the level of blockchain security. Tens of millions of cryptocurrency users, trillions of transactions, and so far NOT a SINGLE case of hacking or unauthorized access.
Finding (or not finding) consensus is the tenth thing. The most important thing is the legitimacy of the decisions made. And it will be the maximum of all possible management models. The disadvantage of representative democracy is that there will always be claims to the elected that they ignore the interests of voters and act in their purely own interests.

[zadorin1974]

At the expense of safety, I strongly doubt (several times they broke the mail, it's like a glass half full or empty). And at the expense of claims to the chosen ones, you can't please everyone. Even my mother and I sometimes find it difficult to agree on the principle of raising my children (her grandchildren )

[syndicalist]

Eternal claims of voters to the elect is half the trouble. The trouble is that these claims are always well-grounded, since the elite (any, the most democratic and patriotic) really always act in their own interests, which only partially intersect with the interests of the majority of voters.

[A.TOR]

It is not necessary to control politicians, it is necessary to form a system of total control by the people of institutions. The people are not, they will quickly figure out the balabols. And you also need to understand that life is changing, and the regular change of priorities is normal.
But! They can only be changed deliberately on the basis of clear goals. For the people understandable

[Yaroslavl]

do you really think that we do not have decent and smart people for 145 million?)) no, this is some kind of nightmare ... you at least understand, all these figures listed above by you are a screen of power to show ... who else if not us. ... look these are even worse ... do you really think that our country is so poor in smart and honest people?)

[zadorin1974]

Good Valery! And you try to suggest an option. Maybe I have never heard about them (great country, 145 million)))). I do not think that everything is so deplorable, but so far, as in the saying "If you are so smart, then why so poor "

[Yaroslavl]

yeah, about being smart about yourself, don't get excited, that's for sure) this is the first ... but the second, if you have heard only the options that the media present you with, and it is, then you are hardly rich in the normal sense .. .and your irony is completely inappropriate))) if you see everything so one-sided and primitive ... Do you need the options for candidates? I will certainly voice them ... ... and I am very ashamed of the power that you choose, dear ...

[zadorin1974]

Firstly, do not be rude to a person with the opposite opinion. It is small. Secondly, why such confidence about my choice? At the expense of fervor, isn't it about myself?

[Yaroslavl]

I don’t even want to, let alone be rude, just have a discussion with you ... just said that you are for power, because all the other contenders are fools, freaks, etc. (having listed at the same time those who are convenient for the authorities to present to the layman, all sorts of unworthy people) .... and immediately give up your words ... so who are you for then?

[Victorio]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

Platoshkin, Bondarenko, Anidalov, Markhaev, etc., etc.

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What is the problem with these candidates? if they are so good, they enjoy the support of the people, then no obstacles can prevent them from taking elective places, where they, rolling up their sleeves, will begin to work to improve society and the state.

[Yaroslavl]

and you do not take into account the obstacles to occupy elective places in the person of the power? in the person of the criminal power (probably, you don’t know how Bondarenko was not allowed into the Federation Council, how Platoshkin is sitting) you don’t know anything!) ... if if everything was as you think, then Putin would have been retired long ago, and not in a bunker in Barvikha)

[Sibtema]

Your logic is strange, although, in fact, many also think.

[K-612-O]

Smart and honest people either never go into politics themselves, this is a dirty business, or when they come to power they fill everything with even more blood than thieves like Gunpowder. Remember 1917, smart and mostly honest came to power, the result of 15-20 million in the civil war and the red terror.

[alexmach]

However, the situation is really hopeless. On the one hand, the authorities must have mechanisms for the rotation of personnel. You can't do without it. On the other hand, there really are no really visible frames for rotation.

[K-612-O]

Why not? Look at the new young governors, many are working noticeably and effectively. The same Degtyarev, in 2 months did more than Furgal in a year. In the Kaliningrad region, too, a person is adequate. There are many where normal people sit. And the Leaders of Russia are not just a project engineer, but a real management school for the selection of personnel. I know from Rosatom, we have had this practice for a long time and we have become a leader in nuclear technologies in the world, including due to competent management, albeit with its excesses, but still.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: alexmach

However, the situation is really hopeless. On the one hand, the authorities must have mechanisms for the rotation of personnel.

And you can find out why you need to rotate personnel in power, in addition to what you said that it is needed..?

[alexmach]

And you can find out why you need a rotation of personnel in the government, in addition to the fact that you said that you need it ..?

First, cadres tend to retire. Or just grow old and die.
Secondly, it is just to grow decrepit, grow old, get fat, sit up and lose grip. To avoid this, the ruling elite must be open and constantly (but by no means hastily and chaotically) select new cadres, and promote the best of them up.
Otherwise, there will be a new stagnation (and, by the way, it already exists, in terms of personnel policy, Putin's rule is oh-oh-very similar to the reign of Dear Leonid Ilyich), and when the stagnant leaders die and new hungry and inexperienced ones come, a new "perestroika" orgy.

In a nutshell - why? To ensure long-term stability and continuity and adequacy to the moment of this very power.

[Incvizitor]

In order to get in there you need a lot of dough and cronyism, and a decent person does not have this.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Yaroslavsky

do you really think that we do not have decent and smart people for 145 million?)) no, this is some kind of nightmare ... you at least understand, all these figures listed above by you are a screen of power to show ... who else if not us. ... look these are even worse ... do you really think that our country is so poor in smart and honest people?)

If you are of course Yaroslavl, then, for example, your Yaroslavl. There were people in power in the city, there was order, and when the "Varangians" - Mironov and Volkov (replacement of the "shift worker" Sleptsov) came, the system of support for the city economy was destroyed and everything slowly began to bend, reduced to one-time ostentatious actions. There are 700 thousand people in the city, but he is not able to influence this "administrative public". Of the 700 thousand, there are probably a hundred intelligent people, but who will allow them to control levers?

[Yaroslavl]

I’m not for example, but definitely Yaroslavl) about the fact that there was order when, say, Urlashov, I would not shout too much ... he was the mayor for a week without a year ... then Nechaev and Malyutin were, they are United Russia and therefore, as they were ordered to do so ... and the next two are also United Russia ... so this is the root of the problem, in the party of the so-called power, in authoritarianism and a command system that chases propaganda and sticks ... that's what you need to talk ... and who is driving, Ivanov Petrov or Sidorov, and where is he from ... you don't need to speak ... this is all the second question and not the main one ...

[Incvizitor]

Voted for the communists of Russia.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: The same Lech

after the Duma elections, when Edro will again “gain” the majority of seats in the Duma.

This topic is sensitive for the Edrosov ... don't make them nervous.

And their nerves were naughty. Rumor has it that given the "wild popularity and popular love" for the leader of YEDRA, they are preparing to replace DAM with another party leader, so that for the Duma elections to maximize the image of the party in the eyes of the people and not irritate the electorate with the appearance of an unreasonably optimistic Medvedev, more - "optimism for no reason, a sign ... (pick up a rhyme yourself)" And then, you see, some kind of stupid law will be adopted for a free distribution of rain jets in the amount of two cubes per capita and machines will be installed for distributing rose-colored glasses in order to demonstrate concern. With this, most of the Duma seats will be mastered.

[halpat]

Quote: Pilot

This is the fate of the beginning of reformatting, most likely next year, after the Duma elections, when Edro will again “gain” the majority of seats in the Duma.

in Kyrgyzstan it is not a khanate, there the aul shishkari come to power, as I understand it.
Whoever has more relatives, he and the president, for a while, until the others agree and do not get crowded.
Well, to rob once again the "white house" - office equipment, furniture.
And then (in power) to shove Russian loans into their pockets, faster, faster ...
Russians will give more, it has been checked many times - you don't have to give anything.

Creeping line in Russia 24:
The Kyrgyz government works, but in a "special" regime.

As I understand it, they summoned their relatives to take out what was left of the night robbery, which was traditionally carried out by representatives (infantry) of the new unstable aul coalition.

[Fungus]

There were revolutions in the sub-Soviet space in 4 countries. And there is no sense. On the contrary, they began to live worse ...

[Far B]

It’s just their name is so romantic - “revolution”, but in reality - banal coups, because the social structure has not changed.

[Same lech]

in fact - banal coups

And who turns whom over?

[Far B]

And they do not care who who. Today these are those tomorrow - those of these. Cho remembered the anecdote.
Dad: - where was you all night, son?
Son: - at a friend's, they played chess.
B .: - well, who will win?
D.S .: - nobody nobody, we played chess !!!

[Incvizitor]

The gang is overturning the power in order to get to the trough and does not shun even the support of Western Amerzians.

[K-612-O]

Revolutions and coups were everywhere, except for the 4 countries of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and in Belarus it almost worked

[cat Rusich]

There was a civil war in Tajikistan from May 5, 1992 to June 27, 1997. The hottest battles were from August 1992 to July 1993. Let's see what will happen in Tajikistan after E. Rakhmonov (date of birth October 5, 1952 ...)

[halpat]

Quote: Fungus

There were revolutions in the sub-Soviet space in 4 countries. And there is no sense. On the contrary, they began to live worse ...

Why not. For those who break through to the helm for a while, there comes a sweet period of stuffing their pockets, preparing a way to escape and a place of future residence in warmth and contentment.
Not everyone succeeds in cranking this operation completely (all 3 parts), but risk is a noble cause.
And there is Kyrgyzstan or Moldova, Ukraine or Georgia - but what's the difference.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Fungus

There were revolutions in the sub-Soviet space in 4 countries. And there is no sense. On the contrary, they began to live worse ...

It's better in Georgia

[Fungus]

Old fake. We rested there. Poverty and hopelessness ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Fungus

Old fake. We rested there. Poverty and hopelessness ...

I also rested there, it became much better than in the XNUMXs.

[Fungus]

Everyone has their own truth

[Victorio]

Quote: Fungus

Old fake. We rested there. Poverty and hopelessness ...

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yes, as long as there are hopes for tourism, and even for entering the eu, in order to make legs in more prosperous countries.

[Alibekulu]

Vityok, but you can look at the return line .. Where there were no revolutions, they began to live an order of magnitude better?
By the way, in Georgia, and in Armenia, they have become better ..

[Doccor18]

..In general, Central Asia has slipped into the state of khanates.

The khanates were not there only for 70 years of Soviet rule. Thousands of years before and 30 years after - all the same, returned with the traditions of the Middle Ages. The tendency of the emigration of the intelligentsia from there is interesting. Doctors and teachers from Central Asia appeared in the city. Really, even the educated have no place in their states ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Deniska999

Central Asia generally slipped into a state of khanates.

Three days ago, Bagdasarov spoke of Kyrgyzstan as another troubled point in the post-Soviet space.

[Alex Justice]

Central Asia generally slipped into a state of khanates.

So it was and it will be so.

[Far B]

Still, rather by accident. For the Kyrgyz, this is something like a national entertainment in the 21st century. In terms of the number of such turmoil, ahead of all the former republics. USSR (it will be possible to add soon - combined).

[vkl.47]

Plans are fighting and the forelocks of the slaves are cracking.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dalny V

For the Kyrgyz, this is something like a national entertainment in the 21st century.

I would not say, in the collapse, what happened in Tajikistan, as in Kyrgyzstan, these are flowers.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

it involuntarily comes to mind that this is not accidental.

By chance, this is when a maximum of two times

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

By chance, this is when a maximum of two times

As I already wrote, Bagdasarov said three days ago "Kyrgyzstan will be next." As I looked into the water.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

"Next will be Kyrgyzstan." As I looked into the water.

And this will be wherever there are elections

[hydrox]

Sorry, but maybe a more precise definition would be more appropriate: "Democratic elections are ALWAYS painted in the restless color of unrest "(look how they ran in Belarus with bloody sheets).

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: hydrox

Democratic elections are ALWAYS tinted with the turbulent color of unrest. "

The concept of "democracy" has long been defamed and raped. But it continues to be used as cheese in a mousetrap.
As a result, ".. the mice injected, cried, but continued to eat ..." the fruits of this very democracy ..

[Thrifty]

National Kyrgyz fun? In order not to freeze at home, they go to overthrow the government they themselves have chosen in order to choose a new government, which then, as they freeze from sitting at home, will also go to overthrow! !!

[hydrox]

The fun ends with satisfaction and relaxation in a much calm atmosphere - but this is not about Kyrgyzstan, from time to time they live worse and worse.

[K-612-O]

The Sultan continues to have fun. All allegations of violations were made by Turkish observers and diplomats, and before that, $ 3 million was allocated to ensure elections and support civil society, this is so for a second.
And the first thing the protestors did was release the Turkish fanboy Atambayev.

[halpat]

Quote: K-612-O

The Sultan continues to have fun. All allegations of violations were made by Turkish observers and diplomats, and before that, $ 3 million was allocated to ensure elections and support civil society, this is so for a second.
And the first thing the protestors did was release the Turkish fanboy Atambayev.

Well, if this is so, then we can compare the effectiveness of the work of Russia and its enemies in the post-Soviet space.
The CSTO, the EurAsEC, and give immeasurable and irrevocable money, and stand together on some podium. Sense 0, in fact.
And "Turkish recruitment" - to build several mosques, to organize 2-3 dynamic NGOs + free education of students in Turkey. Also money, of course. But an order of magnitude less, I'm sure.
And at any moment - I swayed your pipe.

It seems that all Russian functionaries in the field of work in the post-Soviet space are idlers and parasites.

[K-612-O]

Well, the Turks have been methodically working there since 91, the same Atambayev did not just jump out like that as soon as the American influence weakened. And before 2005-2007 we all disappeared in the post-Soviet space.

[SSR]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

It looks like an internal showdown ... what is the degree of participation of external forces there

These children are small, always like that! From their clan, authority did not pass, raised calls to relatives, those clan and went to blow out their lips, always infuriated by this feature of the Kyrgyz. Until the real authority on their fingers explains that this is so and so and your donkey is just a donkey, they will sacredly believe that they are right.

[iouris]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

it involuntarily comes to mind that this is not accidental.

Yes, you, my friend, are a Marxist-Engelsist! "Necessity always pushes its way through the mass of accidents."
Chance is not something that denies necessity, alien to it, incompatible with law. In reality, where not only the main and main, internal connections of phenomena operate, but also secondary, secondary, external connections, the need is revealed in the form of chance. In whatever favorable conditions artillery fire is fired, accidents are always possible: an initially absent wind may arise; its direction can somehow change in the higher layers of the atmosphere, where the projectile takes off during its flight; the possibility of a change in the pressure and humidity of the air on one or another part of the path of the projectile, a change in the temperature of the charge before the shot, etc. is not excluded.

[Alex Justice]

It looks like an internal showdown ..

Tak is. I have relatives there. Ordinary inter-clan showdown.

[Maz]

Tikhanovskaya and Navalny with Pashinyan urgently go there to color the revolution.

[Avior]

Oh, these elections!
It is necessary that the list contains one candidate from a bloc of party and non-party people, then there will be no problems.
This choice will be another matter. There's nothing to rock ....

[rotmistr60]

The Kyrgyz, like the Ukrainians, fell in love with color revolutions. As it became simple - those parties that do not enjoy mass support did not pass in the elections, which means we do not recognize the elections, the people take to the streets, the seizure of parliament, demands to release those previously imprisoned, etc. Walk the flaw, smash, smash, the foreign countries will help us.

[Graz]

unfortunately this is a classic sign of a failed state

[Serg65]

Quote: rotmistr60

those parties that do not enjoy mass support did not pass the elections

Is this really so?

[K-612-O]

So she helps a lot, at first the striped ones tried to squeeze us out of there, now the sultan got a little spirited and is trying to shove his pawn back

[Serg65]

Quote: K-612-O

now the sultan has grown out of his head and is trying to shove his pawn back

And who is this pawn ... in your opinion?

[military_cat]

Against this background, it became known about the release of the ex-president of the country Almazbek Atambayev from the jail of the State Security Committee. He left the building of the remand prison to the cheers of the crowd.

Well, this one is quite pro-Russian, convenient, class close, negotiable. He made his guards and drivers billionaires, crushed the fifth column, and you read his constitutional reform - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_referendum_in_Kyrgyzstan_(2016) - so in general the complete feeling that you are reading about ours (including the percentage "for") ... So if he is brought into the office again, Russia will only benefit.

[K-612-O]

Pro-Russian? !! Yes, he and the Sultan almost kissed the tonsils.

"Turkey is a star shining far in the sky for the Kyrgyz. We know that a star shines behind the clouds, even if the sky is closed, this star is our brother, our friend Turkey" - Atambayev, 2012.

[donavi49]

Well, this is how the Sultan revives the empire, and not only talks about it. Jerusalem, not Jerusalem, but in fact - in Syria its proxies are protected, and the north of the Aleppo province is in fact Turkey already. In Libya, he squeezed half of the country, while the lull. The Greeks are conducting impudent exploration of minerals under the noses, but they write only in the sport lotto. The vassal is trying to take away Karabakh. Another vassal to take power in the Central Asian republic.

[K-612-O]

Once again, let's say thanks to two prominent bosses of the CPSU MSG and EBN, for ruining the empire and excluding us from politics even in the post-Soviet space for 15-20 years, and the rest, even Turkey, did what it wanted even in Tatarstan.

[military_cat]

Quote: K-612-O

Pro-Russian? !! Yes, he and the Sultan almost kissed the tonsils.

"Turkey is a star shining far in the sky for the Kyrgyz. We know that a star shines behind the clouds, even if the sky is closed, this star is our brother, our friend Turkey" - Atambayev, 2012.

These are protocol phrases for all the good things during an official visit.

[K-612-O]

Now Stepanokert is also ironing the same protocol

[military_cat]

There, in addition to the protocol, there is also a history of genocide. It is strange, in my opinion, to draw parallels so freely.

[halpat]

Quote: K-612-O

Pro-Russian? !! Yes, he and the Sultan almost kissed the tonsils.

"Turkey is a star shining far in the sky for the Kyrgyz. We know that a star shines behind the clouds, even if the sky is closed, this star is our brother, our friend Turkey" - Atambayev, 2012.

So they (Kyrgyz preziks) money received from the GDP from the Sultan are hoping now, probably :))
Americans / EU will be taken away, there are examples of living and dead (Nazarbayev and Karimov).
And the sultan ... he will not betray.
naive, of course, aul, but they are not laughing there, for the term of office is very short.

[Serg65]

Quote: K-612-O

Atambaev, 2012.

Is Atambaev a pawn? Atambaev ate from his uncle Vova's hands and was very happy about it, and words ... words in the East are just words

[Egoza]

Let them set up their observers and recount the ballots. Why bring to such confrontations? But this is the neglect of the very horizontal, about which I wrote. Well, they still see that unauthorized rallies are taking place in one, second, third country. Moreover, it is necessary to disperse by force, with many victims. So don't think about it, but how to prevent this? After all, it does not happen that a person reads the election results in a newspaper or listens on TV, went to a neighbor and said: "Hey! Neighbor! I don't like this result. Let's go to the square tomorrow and hold a rally." All these rallies are prepared in advance, there are organizers, and there are financial flows that supply these rallies. This is what must be covered in advance. And not then substitute the police.

[samarin1969]

Quote: Egoza

After all, it does not happen that a person reads the election results in a newspaper or listens on TV, went to a neighbor and said: "Hey! Neighbor! I don't like this result. Let's go to the square tomorrow and hold a rally." All these rallies are prepared in advance, there are organizers, and there are financial flows that supply these rallies.

That's it!
All revolutions and "revolutions" are quite planned for themselves. Judging by the passivity of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, everything was settled for a long time in a baysky meeting.

ps The "budget" of "parliamentary revolutions in Moldova, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan is probably less than the cost of the" deputies "fleet.

[Avior]

It happens like this, you ask everyone you know, who are you for?
And he finds out that everyone is for candidate A.
And then it suddenly turns out that Candidate B. won, who quite by accident either the power itself or it is supported.
And if there are many like you, the protest turns out

[vitvit123]

- It happens like this - you ask everyone you know - who are you for? -
Is it that simple?

[Avior]

Simply, if you do not read my post to the end.

[vitvit123]

Once again I read your comment to the end and smiled again!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Avior

And if there are many like you, the protest turns out

Oh how! How simple it turns out. I asked the neighbors, decided to protest, and the "telegrams" already told you where to go, where stones, sticks and posters were stacked ... where and when to gather, identification signs for "like-minded people" and foremen ... And all by itself in a few hours "self-organized"?

[Grits]

Quote: Egoza

Moreover, it is necessary to disperse by force, with many victims.

I have always argued that the best cure for the color revolution is Tiananmen Square. It heals quickly and for a long time.

[evgen1221]

It's time to end these games in a supposedly free choice - to introduce a collegium of representatives of each community (politicians, industrial workers, agricultural workers, etc.) - and choose by voting. And so this mess will be used by everyone who has a louder hawalnik and a lot of insolence. There is always a group who does not like something and this is not an excuse for actions to infringe on the choice of the majority in favor of the loudmouthed minority on the basis that they yell louder and muddle up steeper.

[Same lech]

The majority is usually passive and the minority takes full advantage of this ... a vivid example of Tikhanovskaya and Guaido, who declared themselves presidents ... if this goes on, I will declare myself President of the United States and I will demand recognition from the world community in this ... and I will write more a complaint to the UN about the oppression of my rights to be elected President of Poland.

[Avior]

A very smart decision!
It is much easier to buy several members of the college than all.
Only here you are not embarrassed that riots will begin even when this collegium is created.

By the way, how to create it - also by elections or will someone simply appoint?

[evgen1221]

And how the Politburo was recruited, from a locksmith and above on affairs. Why is that system worse?

[yehat2]

are these locksmiths like Yeltsin a combine operator?
the selection you mentioned existed only from about 37 to 47.
There used to be too many "honored" ones, and then Khrushchev changed this formula.

[evgen1221]

Here I am talking about this selection and talking-37-47.

[Avior]

And how to make such a selection if it was what happened years ago?
Another selection revolution?

[Fedor Sokolov]

Another ally is dumbfounded. First Belarus is storming the CSTO from all sides, now the war in Karabakh, the revolution in Kyrgyzstan, and all this is not without reason, such coincidences do not happen.

[Nastia makarova]

there is such a thing all the time, just a coincidence, all over the world everyone is rebelling against the government

[keeper03]

Everything unfolds according to the manuals of the United States, Russia is surrounded by chaos and war, in order to eventually finish us off!

[Graz]

Interestingly in Kyrgyzstan, at least one change of power without Maidans and about a criminal situation managed?

[Serg65]

Quote: Graz

in Kyrgyzstan, at least one change of power without Maidans and around a criminal situation did?

In 2017, it was quite civilized!

[parusnik]

It is not the first time in Kyrgyzstan ... such events ... but stable ...

[Asad]

Who's next? Kazakhstan?

[Same lech]

Who's next? Kazakhstan?

Yes, he seems to be the last in line.

[K-612-O]

The nearest disco will be in Moldova, there will be elections soon

[iouris]

Quote: ASAD

Who's in the queue?

Don't ask for whom the bell tolls. Everything goes according to plan.

[Klingon]

all this mess is due to the fact that at one time in the USSR they decided to introduce fill in the concept of "President" and his election according to the striped stencil. , this was a big mistake, but it was necessary to leave the system of characteristics, promotion and appointments to a leading position.

[Avior]

Believe it or not, the "striped" elections are held according to a completely different "stencil". There the states choose.

[OgnennyiKotik]

State is translated as state. Correct semantic translation from English The United States of America - United States of America. Therefore, they have such a "strange" state system for us.

[avia12005]

Western-style democracy is a phantom that allows the West to establish its rule over the entire world. If you want true independence, create your own democracy.

[501 Legion]

The worthless security forces could not even defend anything, although there were no crowds as in previous years. passed absolutely all positions. only at night they drove them with light noise and confused. And these myrki do not learn anything, they lower the country below the plinth, if you are dissatisfied stand there and hold a meeting. What does the capture of the Kenesh and the White House have to do with it? Why rob and burn, they also attacked ambulances and firemen. a complete crowd so that they all get sick with coronavirus.
A bunch of rabid idiots decide for the country, as most of those who were in the square themselves obviously did not go to the polls. Moreover, most of them are thugs from 20-30 years old, to whom, before the fanar, they go out into the streets in a frenzy, and even for frequent smoky and drunken ones.

[Humpty]

Quote: 501Legion

The worthless security forces could not even defend anything, although there were no crowds as in previous years.

Why the crowd. "Siloviks" as (the right word) trained militants were laid with one blow.

[Alsur]

Quote: Egoza

Let them set up their observers and recount the ballots. Why bring to such confrontations? But this is the neglect of the very horizontal, about which I wrote. Well, they still see that unauthorized rallies are taking place in one, second, third country. Moreover, it is necessary to disperse by force, with many victims. So don't think about it, but how to prevent this? After all, it does not happen that a person reads the election results in a newspaper or listens on TV, went to a neighbor and said: "Hey! Neighbor! I don't like this result. Let's go to the square tomorrow and hold a rally." All these rallies are prepared in advance, there are organizers, and there are financial flows that supply these rallies. This is what must be covered in advance. And not then substitute the police.

The losers will be unhappy anyway. If in the Republic of Belarus France and Germany, countries with established democracies, their president and prime minister, insist on holding repeated elections, until the desired result is obtained, without having the information about election fraud, I do not send observers to the elections in Belarus. They have already made a bet. For some reason, Merkel's stay in power for a long time, Macron is not outraged, this is the choice of the German people .. And nobody is interested in how the elections were held. It was the same in Ukraine, Armenia and many other countries. If the West appoints the heads of such states, these countries will have no problems.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: ALSur

insist on rerun elections

The PEOPLE insists on this.

Quote: ALSur

having no information about electoral fraud,

Twenty-three volumes of data on fraud were submitted to the court. The latter threw them into the trash, as well as the signatures of hundreds of thousands of those given for other candidates.
Video, audio, photo. Documents. All that the soul desires.

Quote: ALSur

I do not send observers to the elections in Belarus

Have you sent? Observers have the right to arrive AFTER the invitation of the country, and there was no such thing from Belarus. Even from the Russian Federation they were not.
Belarusian observers were driven out of the polling stations, watched from the streets, and were not allowed through the cordons of the pro-government in all possible ways. But we do not want to see this.

"This is all the hand of the West"

[Yurahip]

East is a delicate matter! Fuck them you will understand what they need.

[K-612-O]

At the moment, it is not them, but Erdogan who needs to return Atambayev and his clan.

[Yaroslavl]

I suppose there will be one more “fair” elections like the voting on September 13, and we also need to go out and demand that the authorities stop the lawlessness ... quiet speeches like in Khabarovsk, the authorities do not notice ...

[K-612-O]

Did you yourself go to these elections? In Khabarovsk, there was a movement organized by the local criminals in support of the murderer and the thief. I know very well what kind of "business" Furgal had and how he ran it.

[Yaroslavl]

yes, I went, and all my acquaintances went to these elections (these words are just right), and voted against the candidate from United Russia, Mr. Kovalenko, and he lost ... but then they pulled up the electronic voting, which took place as part of the compulsion to vote by the state employees and a number of other professions, and everything was done as it should ... the votes were smeared over other candidates, and he entered the party that raised the retirement age for us and is engaged in the genocide of the Russian people ... I don’t know about Furgal’s business, and not I know what you know there all the more ... but I want to say the following, I trust more those many thousands of Khabarovsk residents who have come out for the third month in a row and arrange a legal protest against the lawlessness than you ... I know that for sure ... and what kind of power is in charge of us, and how the common people live, I also know for sure ... and I don’t need to know anything else in principle ...

[K-612-O]

And by the way, administrative and criminal cases were opened for all violations in those elections.

[Alex Justice]

And by the way, administrative and criminal cases were opened for all violations in those elections.

By the way, the former president shot a policeman with his own hands during his arrest and earned a sentence.

[The gentleman]

every time, at the same time ... the guys and I get together ... well, and then according to the standard scenario

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Serg65

Is this really so?

Robyats, why are we minus Sergey? A person lives in Kyrgyzstan, so he knows more than all of us what is happening there. Besides, a Russian patriot. And adequate, in contrast to "Humpty". No, to ask him , ask to describe the events taking place ..

[Humpty]

Quote: Alibekulu

And adequate, unlike "Humpty"

They taught me how to piss while standing, so don't be shit while standing. You move there as your brothers in mind and sex.

[Zymran]

Hello fellow countryman. Banned?

[Zymran]

Kasym seems to be pissing, but the swamps disappeared as the site was again banned in Kazakhstan. Semurg was sent to the ban. My account got unbanned sometime this year. Before that I was in the bath for three years.

[GAndr]

Quote: The same Lech

It looks like an internal showdown ... what is the degree of participation of external forces there, this still needs to be clarified. But when almost synchronously it starts to blaze on the borders of Russia in neighboring republics, it involuntarily comes to mind that this is not accidental.

I think that there is a simple showdown of the beys, and if there was any outside interference, it was minimal.

[Tavi]

Cancel all elections to hell, and introduce into the constitution - a change of power through the Maidan every 4 years.

[Cat]

change of power through the Maidan every 4 years

Shoot the losers behind the toilet.

[I must]

So maybe the time has come to change something in the electoral system, in the voting system? Somehow to organize so that everyone can check and double-check, count and count these unfortunate ballots personally. Otherwise, riots under the slogan "the elections are dishonest - all the trouble!" even with the most honest, honest, spotless and noble head of the election commission will continue over and over again.

[Victorio]

Well, if this helps the Kyrgyz to get rid of theft and clannishness, then it can be destroyed. But why should we crumble and set fire to state buildings, rebuild for what shishi? the main thing. for the next president to be pro-Russian.

[Sibtema]

The former republics were never able to decide why they needed independence. And was it even needed.