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"Cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system": Stoltenberg persuades Ankara to abandon the S-400 air defense system

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Ankara should not create problems aviation North Atlantic bloc. Therefore, it needs to find an alternative to the supply of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.


This statement was made by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg during a press conference in Ankara, which he held today together with Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.

The S-400 cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system, and I invite our Turkish partners to look for an alternative.

- stressed the secretary general of the alliance.

During the press conference, he also recalled that buying from Russia weapon, Ankara is subject to US sanctions.

The head of the Turkish foreign policy department, in turn, noted that Ankara had to purchase air defense systems from Russia, since it was refused to supply American Patriot air defense systems or something similar to protect its airspace.

When Russia began to supply Turkey with S-2019 anti-aircraft missile systems in 400, the Americans began to persuade and intimidate Ankara to abandon the deal and purchase US-made Patriot air defense systems. Turkey refused to make concessions.

Now the head of the North Atlantic Alliance Jens Stoltenberg is in Ankara on a working visit. He has already held talks with Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and is now going to meet with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 October 2020 19: 21
    +1
    "Cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system": Stoltenberg persuades Ankara to abandon the S-400 air defense system
    And that Ankara ???? The secretary general of the alliance is simply the secretary general of the alliance. And what is Ankara ???? bully
    1. credo
      credo 5 October 2020 19: 30
      +8
      Quote: Observer2014
      "Cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system": Stoltenberg persuades Ankara to abandon the S-400 air defense system
      And that Ankara ???? The secretary general of the alliance is simply the secretary general of the alliance. And what is Ankara ???? bully

      Ankara has shown a bad example for the rest of the bloc and the world, therefore, the United States, through its talking head, makes it clear that this issue will not be released just like that.
      For dollars leaving Turkey from Russia and for goods coming from Russia to Turkey, the United States is fighting as for its own good, so this issue will be raised again and again.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 36
        +5
        Quote: credo
        Ankara has set a bad example for the rest of the bloc and the world

        Actually, the Americans set a bad example. Taking off the anti-aircraft "umbrella" from Turkey
        How, in fact, it all started.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 5 October 2020 19: 47
          12
          The S-400 cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system, and I invite our Turkish partners to look for an alternative.

          The S-400 is not for integration, but for the castration of NATO aircraft! yes
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 55
            +5
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            The S-400 is not for integration, but for the castration of NATO aircraft!

            Soviet / Russian air defense systems are in service with many NATO countries.
            For example, the S-300 is Greece, this is Slovakia, this is Bulgaria.

            The probable enemy of Turkey-Greece has long and successfully integrated S-300 systems into the national air defense system

            And when this character gives out such pearls, the Turks begin to scratch concentratedly in the back of their heads ... "And what the hell was that?"
            And the funny thing is that later this same Stoltenberg will whine about the fact that it is Russia "destroying the unity of NATO."
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 5 October 2020 19: 57
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: SRC P-15
            The S-400 cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system, and I invite our Turkish partners to look for an alternative.

            The S-400 is not for integration, but for the castration of NATO aircraft! yes

            And if tonight Ankara "castrates" a Russian plane with the S-400. What will you publish? Maybe we will first find out Ankara's response to the statements of the NATO Secretary General?
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 5 October 2020 20: 13
              +3
              Quote: Observer2014

              And if Ankara "castrates" a Russian plane tonight with the S-400

              Here's something that tells me that the S-400 missiles will not work against Russian aircraft!
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 5 October 2020 20: 27
                -2
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                Quote: Observer2014

                And if Ankara "castrates" a Russian plane tonight with the S-400

                Here's something that tells me that the S-400 missiles will not work against Russian aircraft!

                What? bookmarks in the complex itself? winkPersonal relationships between heads of state? Or between state agreements?
                So what tells you personally?
                1. Mountain shooter
                  Mountain shooter 5 October 2020 20: 42
                  +7
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  So what tells you personally

                  You yourself answered. Export option. Bookmarks. Well, they just have to be there. Moreover, they can be both in the complex and in the seeker of missiles. I would even lay such that the launch was carried out, but in the last section the detonation took place no closer than 100 m from the target. On answering machine signal ...
                  Perhaps the NATO members will be hysterical that they have the same complexes in theirs. So that NATO does not work! But the Russians will WORK on NATO! And while the S-400s are in Turkey, NATO and Amerov planes over Turkey are in danger laughing
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 5 October 2020 21: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    So what tells you personally

                    You yourself answered. Export option. Bookmarks. Well, they just have to be there. Moreover, they can be both in the complex and in the seeker of missiles. I would even lay such that the launch was carried out, but in the last section the detonation took place no closer than 100 m from the target. On answering machine signal ...
                    Perhaps the NATO members will be hysterical that they have the same complexes in theirs. So that NATO does not work! But the Russians will WORK on NATO! And while the S-400s are in Turkey, NATO and Amerov planes over Turkey are in danger laughing

                    Yes, I answered. To myself. But I'm not sure of my answer. It happens like that. Is there any real confirmation of such tabs in Russian military equipment exported abroad?
                  2. Avior
                    Avior 5 October 2020 21: 43
                    +3
                    I hear about these bookmarks many times, but I never read about a known case when they would have worked.
                    I heard about friendly fire more than once.
                    How is it possible in principle, if such tabs really exist?
                  3. Incvizitor
                    Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 57
                    0
                    So that when aiming at an RF plane, the complex is undermined laughing
                2. olegfbi
                  olegfbi 5 October 2020 21: 43
                  -1
                  What? bookmarks in the complex itself?

                  What bookmarks? What are you talking about? And why are these most hypothetical "bookmarks" needed?
                  1. The S-400 complex is produced in Russia, respectively, all frequencies, algorithms, etc. not just famous, but .... I don't even know how to put it briefly. You understand, or you must understand.
                  2. Further, the use of electronic warfare, if necessary, while effective by 100%, based on paragraph 1!
                  That something like this.
                  1. Parsec
                    Parsec 5 October 2020 21: 57
                    0
                    Quote: olegfbi
                    all frequencies, algorithms, etc. not just famous, but ...

                    No. The frequency range is known. Algorithms are all the more described in general, and this can be found in any textbook.
                    Quote: olegfbi
                    the use of electronic warfare, if necessary, while effective by 100%, based on paragraph 1

                    No.
                  2. AllXVahhaB
                    AllXVahhaB 6 October 2020 18: 55
                    0
                    Do you, in general, understand what you are writing about? How do you relate to this industry?
            2. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 5 October 2020 21: 03
              -5
              Quote: Observer2014
              And if Ankara "castrates" a Russian plane tonight with the S-400

              What will he do there tonight?
              That is why you consider yourself smarter than others? So you thought that if such thoughts come to your mind, they do not come to other people who were dealing with this issue?
              And they didn’t do anything so that these complexes would NEVER be able to shoot down our plane?
              That's right off the bat.
              Small bookmark in the complex. Just decided to fire at our plane, the signal from space and nothing remained of the complex
              Could this be?
              Can we first find out Ankara's answer to the statements of the NATO Secretary General?

              Already answered

              The head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, in turn, notedthat Ankara had to purchase air defense systems from Russia, since it was refused to supply American Patriot air defense systems or something similar to protect its airspace
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 5 October 2020 21: 05
                -4
                What will he do there tonight?
                To Lipetsk via Ankara will fly from Syria for example wassat
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 5 October 2020 21: 07
                  -3
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  To Lipetsk via Ankara will fly from Syria for example

                  I bet it won't fly
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 5 October 2020 21: 09
                    -2
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    To Lipetsk via Ankara will fly from Syria for example

                    I bet it won't fly

                    You yourself see who it is .. What and how to talk further? negative
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 5 October 2020 22: 12
                      -3
                      Quote: Observer2014
                      You can see who it is

                      so who?
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 5 October 2020 20: 38
          -4
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: credo
          Ankara has set a bad example for the rest of the bloc and the world

          Actually, the Americans set a bad example. Taking off the anti-aircraft "umbrella" from Turkey
          How, in fact, it all started.

          Why a bad example? A great example. Otherwise, we would not be discussing this topic now. yes This is at least .. I will notice a colleague. hi
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 6 October 2020 10: 17
        +3
        Quote: credo
        Ankara has set a bad example for the rest of the bloc and the world ... so this issue will come up again and again.

        "Cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system": Stoltenberg persuades ....

        Nonsense, Nata's air defense system has not suffered: the exchange of information between control centers continues, but an independent element that is not controlled is a headache. They just screwed up, because there is an air defense system that is not integrated into the overall system and can be controlled exclusively by the local shah - that's all "democracy". Among other things, the Americans are afraid that the Turks will begin to control Incirlik, and this is very serious.
        PS By the way, at the statement about the impossibility of integrating the Russian system into the previously built other / amerov system, the South Koreans at one time silently smiled
  2. ArioN
    ArioN 5 October 2020 19: 23
    -14 qualifying.
    Erdogan got a taste of invulnerability by testing the S-400 ... But this is all temporary!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 31
      +1
      Quote: ArioN
      Erdogan got a taste of invulnerability by testing the S-400 ... But this is all temporary!

      No, this is forever.
      Turkey's "allies" in NATO have behaved very dishonestly. And now they are reaping the benefits.

      Well, the NATO Secretary General, blinking his eyes and pretending that nothing happened, is at least a strange character. However, he has long been accustomed to being so disgraced.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 5 October 2020 21: 08
      0
      Quote: ArioN
      Erdogan felt taste of invulnerability having tested the S-400 .... But this is all temporary!

      Yes you are right. I would add taste PERSONAL invulnerability.
      For those who have forgotten.
      On the night of July 15-16, 2016 in Turkey, a group of rebels attempted a military coup.
      An air raid was carried out on the parliament building. Coup participants also launched airstrikes aircraft F-16 on the residence of President Erdogan in Ankara.
      The rebels attempting a coup in Turkey had the opportunity to shoot down Erdogan's plane flying from Marmaris to Istanbul. According to him, at least two F-16 aircraft followed Erdogan's side as he headed to Istanbul.
      Only this one reason, to save yourself a loved one, the Sultan. And for this, some $ 2 billion of which 50% is a loan, for him it is like roadside dust. To save yourself, the "Patriot" air defense system is not suitable, it does not work on US-made aircraft.
  3. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 5 October 2020 19: 27
    +1
    NATO secretary general, talking head. Erdogan, I think, will remember them the recent failed coup, and who was behind it.
    1. KCA
      KCA 5 October 2020 19: 34
      -1
      The states still keep Gulen in their pocket, I don’t know, will they hand him over to Turkey, they will quarter him there, with Erdogan, they will improve relations a little, but with all the other gayrops and others?
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 5 October 2020 19: 29
    0
    All the same, a dog somewhere in this business has rummaged deeply, since the "partners" stink for so long ...
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 5 October 2020 19: 31
    +1
    Turkey has its own interests and will not be intimidated. smile
  6. Harry.km
    Harry.km 5 October 2020 19: 41
    +1
    It cannot be integrated into NATO air defense, even if it modestly stands on the side and controls NATO air defense and NATO air force.
  7. Reviews
    Reviews 5 October 2020 19: 43
    -2
    What does the author smoke?
    NATO is thrilled to be able to explore the entire S-400 hardware. It does not matter whether the complex is dangerous to them or not, but they will learn EVERYTHING about it and decide whether they are scared or can be ignored.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      5 October 2020 19: 54
      +5
      Aftyr has not smoked for a long time - he quit ten years ago. Just facts are stubborn things. If NATO wanted to get the S-400 so badly, they would have added money to the Turks for the purchase. Instead, they pressure Turkey to refuse the deal. Why's that? Apparently there is a reason.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 57
      0
      Quote: Avis
      NATO is delighted with the opportunity to explore the entire contents of the S-400

      Of course delighted.
      But Turkey does not agree.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 5 October 2020 19: 43
    0
    "Cannot be integrated into the NATO air defense system": Stoltenberg persuades Ankara to abandon the S-400 air defense system

    the problem is not technical, the problem is in the manufacturer! I think if the S-400 was Chinese, the problems were the same
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 58
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      I think if the S-400 was Chinese, the problems were the same

      Have already been.
  9. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 5 October 2020 19: 45
    10
    This Stoltenberg is completely inadequate. I'm starting to think that he has a problem with a complicated Latin name. What kind of S400, what kind of integration and defense with NATO ?! Turkey should be thrown out of the block and finished with this underdog.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 October 2020 19: 58
      +4
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Turkey should be kicked out of the block

      It is intended.
      Your aggressive military bloc must not control the Straits
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 5 October 2020 20: 02
        +5
        Your aggressive military bloc must not control the Straits


        Not mine ... laughing If he were mine, he would have bombed Ankara, Constantinople and dozens of other cities.

        And now seriously - the Straits are controlled not by NATO, but by Erdogan. And he is tight with medicines and I hope you don’t think that outside of NATO he will become adequate by the twink of an eye? Yesterday he announced that Jerusalem is a Turkish city, and tomorrow only medicine knows where it will take its roof ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 October 2020 20: 06
          -4
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Not mine ...

          Yours, yours ...

          Quote: Keyser Soze
          If he were mine, he would have bombed Ankara, Constantinople and dozens of other cities.

          That is, instead of the main goal - Russia to bomb its own ally?
          I fully approve.
          You can still burn in Berlin, London and Ottawa.

          Quote: Keyser Soze
          And now seriously - the Straits are controlled not by NATO, but by Erdogan.

          Of course .... Both the European Union and NATO threw Turkey for so long that the local residents decided that you couldn't cook porridge with your audience. Some are liars and hypocrites. Erdogan at least lies less.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 5 October 2020 20: 12
            +5
            Yours, yours ...


            Thank you dear Lopatov. Aviation rises into the air. The northern animal came to the Turks ... laughing

            Some are liars and hypocrites. Erdogan at least lies less.


            I see you are an admirer of Yerdogan - I will remember and mock when he pees on your head.

            That is, instead of the main goal - Russia to bomb its own ally?
            I fully approve.
            You can still burn in Berlin, London and Ottawa.


            The Tambov wolf is an ally of Yerdogan. I wanted to go around London, but the phone overheated - your whole cooperative Ozero called and asked for Voronezh, if possible ... laughing
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 October 2020 20: 13
              -3
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              I see you are an admirer of yerdogan

              I am an admirer of anyone who puts sticks in the wheels of your aggressive military bloc.

              Quote: Keyser Soze
              The Tambov wolf is an ally of Yerdogan.

              How nice it is with you in NATO .... Keep up the good work laughing
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 5 October 2020 20: 25
                +1
                How nice it is with you in NATO .... Keep up the good work


                Yes, Lopatov .... to all observers outside Russia it is clear that NATO is an operetta, amorphous, useless and untenable bloc. Its only benefit is not to let the Turks and Greeks fight. And as we can see, he copes with this task at the UN level.

                You need NATO to have an external enemy. Otherwise, half of your TV stars will be left without bread. Poland needs to have an external enemy and give them money for excellent rearmament. And the Baltics - so that they feel protected. Amer needs NATO to sit in Europe and put pressure on you. And that's all. All other NATO to the lantern .... with him, without him - all the same.

                Even I don't need NATO if I can't bomb Ankara .... laughing

                Have a nice evening
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 5 October 2020 20: 30
                  -3
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  operetta, amorphous, useless and untenable block.

                  Well, yes.
                  The only thing that you can do well is to rob and support terrorists.

                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  You need NATO to have an external enemy.

                  The USA is enough for our eyes


                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  Even I don't need NATO

                  Nobody will ask.
                  Mobilized and sent to kill the Russians
                  1. Keyser soze
                    Keyser soze 5 October 2020 20: 33
                    +2
                    Nobody will ask.
                    Mobilized and sent to kill the Russians


                    Hitler did not have time to mobilize and send us to kill the Russians, but he was a little more abrupt than Stoltenberg.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 5 October 2020 20: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Keyser Soze
                      Hitler did not have time to mobilize and send us to kill the Russians,

                      Americans will be tougher.
                      Well, well, they will send Serbian villages to burn, and the Croats freed from this will be sent to fight with Russia
                    2. no one
                      no one 6 October 2020 11: 35
                      -2
                      You were of little use to him. And the Russians are of little use, and there will be amers. Clueless
                      1. Keyser soze
                        Keyser soze 6 October 2020 19: 13
                        0
                        You were of little use to him. And the Russians are of little use, and there will be amers. Clueless


                        Do you write ibrik from the front? Beware of the Armenians - they do not take prisoners. Disposed of right in the mountains. laughing
                      2. no one
                        no one 7 October 2020 15: 46
                        -1
                        No, I'm sitting in Turkey, waiting until you come to liberate Constantinople. The Azeris are doing well without me. But yours here a lot go komshi komshi they tell us a discount
              2. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 5 October 2020 22: 51
                0
                Wash Churchill said about NATO: NATO needs the Americans to be inside the bloc, the Germans are under control and the Russians are outside the bloc ...
              3. no one
                no one 6 October 2020 11: 34
                -2
                You just need more NATO so that something does not come to your head from ankara. What are you going to bomb with? Russians?
          2. Charik
            Charik 5 October 2020 20: 36
            +2
            In Voronezh-hell you will succeed
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 October 2020 20: 40
              0
              Quote: Charik
              In Voronezh-hell you will succeed

              But they hope ... Train every day under the wise guidance of the Americans.
      2. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 5 October 2020 22: 56
        +1
        If he were mine, he would have bombed Ankara, Constantinople and dozens of other cities.
        A very commendable desire to bomb Ankara, and Constantopol may be left drinks
      3. no one
        no one 6 October 2020 11: 31
        -2
        The bomb didn’t grow. You are always singing along, whether it is with the Russians or the Nazis. NATO brothers. And for some reason it is the "enemy" Turkey that blocks actions against the Russian Federation, and you support, both in NATO and in the EU
    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 20: 11
      -4
      Until our boys cool their feet in the Bosphorus (and it will be so), we will "be friends"
  10. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 5 October 2020 21: 58
    0
    As much as we would like it not to be kicked out, and if they finish the Turkofuehrer, NATO will do it.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 5 October 2020 19: 49
    -2
    Did they start trading there in the light of the recent events in Karabakh? Or is it just a routine attempt to hobble Erdogan?
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 5 October 2020 20: 03
      -5
      I thought so, sho Turkish S-400, dual control.
      If the student zakosyatsya, the instructor from Ashuluk, takes over the reins.
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 20: 07
    -2
    Whoever said what, but this deal made EVERYONE "sparkle" with their brains !!!)))
    Paradoxically, but this trick is very impressive, if you like))
    And none of us, "smerds" (sorry), will be able to predict its consequences!)))
    Although ... for me, the Turks as a state will not be ..)))
    Ismyshlisms ...
  • Charik
    Charik 5 October 2020 20: 29
    -1
    Maybe Turkey is not going to integrate С400 into NATO air defense
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 October 2020 20: 33
    -2
    Let Stoltenberg imagine how some kind of f16 flies behind him in the sky of Europe in order to overwhelm the plane with his persnaya, for some reason everyone broke down and pick up the second f16 to intercept it, it's kind of dull, but suddenly he joins the first one. , probably thinking to him came to buy from us a S400 when he was in the night sky of Istanbul from his F 16, hid during the coup.
  • iouris
    iouris 5 October 2020 22: 13
    -2
    Duc, for this we bought it ...
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 6 October 2020 07: 26
      -3
      tyk tyk and nothing happened
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 5 October 2020 22: 47
    0
    will this mutual destruction never end? apparently the merciful god loves to play soldiers, so he came up with this world for his toys
  • Antidote
    Antidote 6 October 2020 07: 20
    0
    Something confused. Is Turkey a friend or is he / is not yet? do they still need to sell the 400 or they are bombing the NKR?
    Explain experts.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 6 October 2020 09: 52
    0
    The Turks set a bad example for those whom Americans considered and still consider to be their clients. The fact that Turkey and Russia have contradictions, so all neighbors and more or less developed countries have them. But buying weapons, and even such from the main opponents of the United States, is no longer comme il faut. The audacity of Americans is their calling card anytime, anywhere. We tried to overthrow you, we abandoned you when a response from Russia appeared for the plane shot down according to your instructions. We throw you at every step, but you shake it off and do as we tell you. a good example for the Chukhonts and Great Poland, although these descendants of Hitler's rump do not want to learn anything in the hope of making it to the plane, which will fly with them to beautiful America ...
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 6 October 2020 10: 55
    0
    There is nothing to replace the ridiculous patriot with.