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Britain unveils a hybrid vertical takeoff jet

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Recently launched UK-based Samad Aerospace showcased a design for the new Q-Starling jet. It is a two-seat hybrid aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing.


This is reported by the publication FlightGlobal.

The British startup plans to start production in 2023 and bring the annual production of such aircraft to 500 units.

An aircraft with a T-shaped tail unit will be created according to the mid-wing scheme, that is, a monoplane, the wing of which will pass through the middle part of the fuselage. Q-Starling will be equipped with two turbojet engines. They are used in horizontal flight to create a driving force.

Vertical take-off and landing will be carried out using an electric fan installed under the middle part of the fuselage. Four more small electric fans will be installed at the ends of the wing and the horizontal part of the tail to stabilize the process.

Composite materials will be mainly used in the manufacture of the aircraft. The manufacturer has not yet fully disclosed the technical characteristics of Q-Starling.

The estimated price for such an aircraft will be about two million dollars.
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  1. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 5 October 2020 12: 32
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    This idea is at least 2 years old. The idea is interesting. But this startup is most likely just scammers.
    Link to the presentation itself: https://samadaerospace.co.uk/docs/brochure.html


    1. venik
      venik 5 October 2020 12: 43
      +4
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      This project is at least 2 years old. But the idea is interesting, the further development of convertiplanes.

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      Just something description нe corresponds "cartoons"!
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 5 October 2020 12: 47
        0
        They have several projects. This third.

      2. RealPilot
        RealPilot 6 October 2020 09: 05
        0
        If you take an idea that has been implemented in practice in drones ... And then draw a presentation of a passenger plane and start collecting money ... Then you get this e-plane (electro-jet in the sense laughing )! With a minimal chance of success. Another hybrid, suitable only for a 3D model of a flight simulator ...

        Let's figure it out. How much thrust does it take to lift it vertically? Strength is needed more than his weight, that's the minimum.
        There is at least a ton in it, while there is a full refueling of kerosene during takeoff on electric thrust vertically. With such a takeoff, the wings do not give lift. The weight and cost of the battery will be huge! At the same time, even if we take off, we will carry the entire electrical part with us, reducing the payload.

        Plus, vertical takeoff has an increased risk of failure - the plane will simply crash, it won't be able to glide. The Harrier pilots (and now the F-35B) know this well. Therefore, they prefer to take off in a shortened airplane way, but they can also land vertically. And in large aircraft, they simply redirect the thrust of the main engines down, rather than creating a separate additional power plant (even the F-35B fan is still powered by a jet engine).
        Well, drones are mostly just electric, hybrids are exotic.

        In general, this office with the name "Samad" hints at the Middle Eastern origin of its owner. The oil monarchies have invested well in asset diversification in recent years, and such projects are likely done by acquired firms to please investors and justify the investment. Looks nice and aerodynamically licked, technically damp, but work is progressing wink And in many cases this is the main thing, money is washed.
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 5 October 2020 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      But this startup is most likely just scammers.

      And the price is the same as that of a conventional propeller plane.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 5 October 2020 12: 56
        +1
        The timing, cost, quantity, name (a hint of the Mask) all indicate that the task is to collect money, and not to make an airplane. But overall, the idea is interesting.
        Something like the Turks did.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 5 October 2020 13: 11
          +3
          Just about, by the way, the allusion to the Mask is generally a stigma - "razvodilovo"! And also a small question - who exactly will build this? Does everyone know that England has a specific shortage of workers in production? In agriculture and fisheries in general, about 80% of the shortage, according to the Guardian. All the clerks and the service staff went, there is no one to work. Yes, 500 pieces will be riveted. Elves with gremlins in the middle of Stonehenge
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 5 October 2020 13: 43
            -1
            Quote: Cowbra
            All the clerks and the service staff have gone, there is no one to work.

            And what about migrant workers?
            Sweep the streets, fix the taps, clean the toilets, that's it.
            But planes are unlikely to be entrusted to them.
            1. vVvAD
              vVvAD 5 October 2020 16: 26
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              The trick is that there are no specialists of this profile especially - mass education does not produce such specialists there. So, only with qualified personnel from the former Soviet bloc to leave. Well, or to attract Western specialists and forget about warm places for your loafers, because they will have to pay completely different salaries. And this miracle will cost ...
              1. Vadim_888
                Vadim_888 5 October 2020 18: 09
                +1
                You will look at the construction time frame of the last British aircraft carrier, and then you will understand the production capabilities of the Brit
                1. vVvAD
                  vVvAD 5 October 2020 19: 51
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                  And how does that fit in with what I wrote? I just pointed out how this is done in modern Britain. Specifically, at least in civil shipbuilding.
        2. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 5 October 2020 13: 14
          +1
          The fuel efficiency and range of such aircraft raises questions.
          And the most important thing is that the operation of aircraft in all countries is so legally regulated (coordination of flight routes, time, corridors) that the advantage of vertical take-off is lost, it is simply legally prohibited wherever you hit and where you want to fly. Somewhere simpler, like in the United States, but still, for the mass operation of such aircraft, it is necessary to seriously modify the legislation and ground flight control services.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 5 October 2020 13: 22
            -2
            Quote: Sergey_G_M
            aircraft operation in all countries is so legally regulated (coordination of flight routes, time, corridors) that the advantage of vertical takeoff is lost,

            In Europe, everything is extremely liberal, you can fly without problems. The number of helicopters and aircraft is outrageous. An interesting video on this topic:
            1. Sergey_G_M
              Sergey_G_M 5 October 2020 13: 27
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              But the flight was agreed in advance, for tourism this is the norm, but for a normal situation when you need to get somewhere and the time for approval is five times more than getting by car is not very good.
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 5 October 2020 16: 42
                +2
                Quote: Sergey_G_M
                But the flight was agreed in advance, for tourism this is the norm, but for a normal situation when you need to get somewhere and the time for approval is five times more than getting by car is not very good.

                Now, even with us, an FPL can be submitted an hour before departure. If the FPL was submitted the day before, then on the day of departure, the plan can be drawn up half an hour before departure, while you have breakfast. Pick-up planting has been practiced since Soviet times. You are too stuck in the 1990s. :)
              2. Vadim_888
                Vadim_888 5 October 2020 18: 10
                0
                So there is no problem, look for business jets, there is not Russia
          2. orionvitt
            orionvitt 5 October 2020 14: 29
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            Quote: Sergey_G_M
            Fuel efficiency and range of such aircraft raises questions

            Sure. Here you have both turboprop and electric engines. In addition to fuel tanks, batteries need to be placed somewhere. Another would be prosobachi rocket engine. laughing For me, this is all garbage, solely for the purpose of advertising and increasing the capitalization of the void. In the states, too, the company advertised an electric truck, which is in one prototype and does not even drive. But the company itself is worth more than a billion. I understand that, the grandmas are sawing from scratch. And then they wonder why financial markets are bursting.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 5 October 2020 14: 40
              -1
              Quote: orionvitt
              Here you have both turboprop and electric engines. In addition to fuel tanks, batteries need to be placed somewhere.

              Do you think that electric motors will be powered by batteries? It is unlikely. For this, there are generators on the main engines.
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 5 October 2020 15: 00
                +1
                Quote: Piramidon
                It is unlikely. For this, there are generators on the main engines.

                The power of the generators (10-20 kW) is enough only for powering the on-board systems, and not for takeoff or landing. Ask at your leisure, so as not to write, to put it mildly nonsense.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 5 October 2020 17: 05
                  -3
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  The power of the generators (10-20 kW) is enough only for powering the on-board systems, and not for takeoff or landing. Ask at your leisure, so as not to write, to put it mildly nonsense.

                  And I will not be interested, because I have known for a long time. I have 28 years (25 army and 3 years serving in the RA) in the aviation of the USSR Navy. Let it be known to you that only one TV engine can contain generators with a total power of more than 60 kW. Ask at your leisure, an advisor from the construction battalion. As my squadron commander said - "Born to crawl, don't get confused on the runway"
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 6 October 2020 02: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Ask at your leisure, advisor from the construction battalion

                    I've spent twenty years testing aircraft engines, and I know more about generator loading than you do. It is different for different engines, on average 10-20 kW, which I wrote about above. ... By the way, even with a power of 60 kW, for takeoff, this is. That's just funny. Maybe some moped will take off. laughing
              2. Rzzz
                Rzzz 5 October 2020 18: 31
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                Yes, there is no other way. There will be not a very large battery, but with a high current output, such as 30C. It should be enough for a few minutes while the craft jumps to a safe height and picks up the speed required to fly on the wings.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 5 October 2020 20: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: rzzz
                  There will be not a very large battery, but with a high current output, such as 30C.

                  And how much will this cargo, uselessly carried after takeoff, weigh, have you counted? Your "not very big" how much will it weigh and what capacity in ampere hours do you assign to it?
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 5 October 2020 21: 54
                    -1
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    how much will this cargo, uselessly carried after takeoff, weigh

                    Quadrocopters somehow fly with such batteries. They hang in the air for half an hour, they also have enough electricity for the camera and for the transmitter. Moreover, the more quadrics, the longer the flight time, for obvious reasons.
                    And not uselessly wearable. Because you need more energy for vertical landing. However, while the device is flying horizontally, the batteries can be recharged from generators powered by internal combustion engines that move the device horizontally.
                    The disadvantage of this scheme is the small battery life. On quadrics, high-current LiPo-shki begin to lose first the current output, and then the capacity already somewhere after 150-200 cycles. This is especially noticeable at high charge currents, they do not like this, although they allow it.
      2. venik
        venik 5 October 2020 13: 25
        +5
        Quote: Sergey39
        And the price is the same as that of a conventional propeller plane.

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        Well, so we are talking about TWO-local models! Although in this case the price seems overly optimistic!
        PS And to be honest - this development causes excessive enthusiasm: there are too many fundamentally new (not time-tested) constructive solutions! The designers even have such (unofficial or, rather, semi-official) concept of "critical coefficient of novelty" (it seems so), the essence of which boils down to the fact that if there are too many "unconventional" (not time-tested) design solutions in a design, then such a design with a high degree of probability will be unsuccessful! And here - we can say ALL the design is based on "non-standard" solutions! Yes and time и cost - some unreal!
        In short: "Let's shake" - we'll see !!!
        1. vVvAD
          vVvAD 5 October 2020 16: 29
          +1
          As the saying goes: don't goorie "gop" until you jump wink
          1. venik
            venik 5 October 2020 16: 36
            0
            Quote: vVvAD
            As the saying goes: don't goorie "gop" until you jump wink

            ========
            Something like that! drinks
            From a "bearded" anecdote: ... Parrot: "- Let my neck bend, but I definitely want to see HOW IT they will succeed! ... " laughing
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 5 October 2020 14: 15
        0
        Quote: Sergey39
        And the price is the same as that of a conventional propeller plane.

        When was the preliminary price equal to the final price?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 October 2020 15: 03
      0
      A very promising development, if everything goes according to plan, the demand for such an aircraft around the world will be frantic.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 5 October 2020 21: 45
        +1
        A two-seater jet? Hardly ... Even private family jets need 4-5 seats, including the pilot.
        Small tiltrotor - I understand that. Or a small electric plane. This is promising.
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 October 2020 12: 34
    0
    Well, island talkers, in two years, from the start of the project to serial production? Where has it been seen, where it has been heard, someone conceived, and someone will lie.
    1. LifeIsGood
      LifeIsGood 5 October 2020 12: 43
      +5
      Come on, that there is a project for 2 years ... it's still flowers, but
      to bring annual issue such aircraft up to 500 units
      it is generally laughing
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 5 October 2020 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      Well the island talkers

      Ah, I firmly believe them in ... vertical fit yes
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 5 October 2020 14: 33
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        in ... vertical fit

        To sit down, you first need to take off somehow. laughing
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 5 October 2020 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: orionvitt
          Quote: Terenin
          in ... vertical fit

          To sit down, you first need to take off somehow. laughing

          Forgot to add ... in a very fast vertical landing wink
  3. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 5 October 2020 12: 43
    +1
    The British startup plans to start production in 2023 and bring the annual production of such aircraft to 500 units.
    .... Apparently, buyers have already appeared .... If such a quantity ..
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 5 October 2020 13: 13
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Apparently, buyers have already appeared ... If such a quantity ..

      Production capacity is announced.
      There are only 2 pieces and a minimum of luggage. For that kind of money, you can take 5 Cessna tarahtelok from the secondary housing. Is that a VIP-air taxi for city and suburbs where there is a ban on noise and except for the roof of a skyscraper there are no sites ... If only they lobby (in Russian they will give them a paw) so that in some city they can demonstrate an exemplary ecological Eden (with billions of crutches on his support).
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 5 October 2020 14: 40
      +1
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      ... Apparently, buyers have already appeared .... If such a number.

      Why Buyers? The current Western economy is not designed for buyers, but for bank loans and the conjuncture of financial markets. In our amazing time, it is no longer at all necessary to produce something. He showed a cartoon, ran an advertising campaign, Banks issued loans, capitalization and order increased on the stock exchanges. Then you can safely play on the stock rate and nafig that production.
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 5 October 2020 12: 48
    +1
    It is a two-seat hybrid aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing.


    This is reported by the publication FlightGlobal.

    The British startup plans to start production in 2023 and bring the annual production of such aircraft to 500 units.
    What for ? in a two-seater version it is a toy for millionaires with a distribution sphere smaller than that of one-piece supercars.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 5 October 2020 12: 51
    +2
    It is a two-seat hybrid aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing.

    Here's another problem to worry about, what will the dollar millionaires fly on? On a hybrid or maybe on solar panels and how are they there with the landing .............
  6. vvnab
    vvnab 5 October 2020 12: 57
    +5
    Not take off.
    It's a bad idea to use a separate engine for takeoff / landing. Have already passed ...
  7. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 5 October 2020 13: 16
    +1
    Double jet?
    Is it a drug to transport something?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2020 13: 17
    +1
    The flight of fantasy has no limits ... however, greed also has no limits.
    Of all these projects, it is good if one in a thousand is realized!
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 5 October 2020 13: 18
    0
    Another business jet, in this form, I think at least you can do it with an underwater takeoff. Series from 1 unit and how lucky
  10. Alien From
    Alien From 5 October 2020 13: 35
    0
    The Brits are also pursuing startups ...
  11. Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 5 October 2020 14: 21
    -1
    Now it remains to implement the project, so that it would still fly, at least somehow ... In recent years Ukraine began to copy England, giving birth to projects one by one, but forgetting to bring them to life
  12. thinker
    thinker 5 October 2020 14: 50
    +1
    Quote: venik
    ALL construction is based on "non-standard" solutions!

    There is also an interesting feature good
    In case of failure of all systems during takeoff or landing, the company has provided ballistic parachute, which will slowly lower the light plane to the ground.

    https://hightech.plus/2020/10/05/samad-aerospace-predstavila-koncept-reaktivnogo-vtol-samoleta-biznes-klassa
  13. keeper03
    keeper03 5 October 2020 16: 03
    0
    Well what can I say ... we need to declare sanctions on them so that this aircraft remains a concept! request
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 October 2020 17: 28
      0
      We are waiting for the creation of their Skylon combined engine is already being tested.