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Washington elders: is the era of "magnificent funerals" in store for the United States

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The opposition likes to call the Russian government gerontocracy. But the age of the US presidential candidates shows that our middle-aged politicians are still very far from their American colleagues in terms of age.


Vladimir Putin will turn 68 the day after tomorrow. Not so little, of course. But his American counterpart Donald Trump is 6 years older than Putin: he was born in 1946, so he is now 74 years old, and Trump became president at 71. Note that this is only Donald Trump's first term in the White House, but he is now running for elections again. If Trump is re-elected, then he will hold the post of US President until the age of 78.

From the U.S. Democratic Party, Trump initially had two main competitors. The first is Senator Bernie Sanders, a well-known figure of the left wing of the Democrats, defending a completely expected program: protecting the rights of national minorities, decriminalizing marijuana, and so on. This is understandable: Sanders is a former member of the New Left movement of the sixties, who did not betray the ideals of his youth. He was a young man during the Vietnam War protests in the United States. Bernie Sanders is now 79 years old: he was born in 1941.

If Bernie Sanders had won the primaries and then the presidential election, he would have ruled the United States until he was 83 for one term, and 87 for two terms.

But another prominent party figure, Joe Biden, won the Democratic primaries. He is called the main rival of Donald Trump in the upcoming elections. Joseph Biden will turn 78 in a month and a half. He was born back in 1942, when the Second World War was in full swing. When in 1972 20-year-old Vladimir Putin was still a law student at Leningrad State University, 30-year-old Joe Biden had already become a Senator of the US Senate.


If now 78-year-old Biden wins the presidential election, he will rule until his 82nd birthday, and if elected for a second term, until his 86th birthday. Recall that the "Kremlin elders" simply did not live up to such years: Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev died at 75 years old, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov - at 69 years old, Konstantin Ustinovich Chernenko - at 73 years old.

In this regard, I would like to note that plans are plans, and health is health. Over the years, this wine only tastes better, but a person, unfortunately, gets old and weaker. By electing eighty-year-olds to the highest public office, the United States risks itself getting a series of "magnificent funerals." But the most interesting thing is how Russian liberals, following the Western press, accuse 68-year-old Putin and his 60-65-year-old associates of gerontocracy, while completely oblivious to the age of American top politicians, who are, on average, 6-12 years older than the Russian president.

By the way, besides the presidential candidates, there is also the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US Congress Nancy Pelosi in the United States. In March this year, she celebrated her 80th anniversary. Nancy's political career began in 1961, when little Putin was still in high school. The upper house of the American Congress, as we know, is called the Senate. So, Chuck Grassley has been the interim president of the US Senate since January 3, 2019, that is, for almost two years. This guy, as they like to call even elderly people in the USA, also grew up a long time ago: on September 17 of this year he turned 87 years old. Chuck Grassley was born in 1933. His predecessor, Orrin Hatch, was a little younger - born in 1934.

As you can see, even long-livers from the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee can envy the age of the first echelon American politicians, let alone the modern Russian leadership. But in the US, no one is confused by the age of Trump, or his rival Biden, or other influential politicians.

Meanwhile, such elderly leaders of the country are really the risk of leaving the "combat post", not to mention the general stagnation of the country. So it is possible that if we maintain this approach to the selection of US leaders for the foreseeable future, we will face America's early elections and acting president vice presidents. Indeed, the latter are still younger than the national leaders: the current vice-president Mike Pence is only 61 years old, and Joe Biden's favorite for this post Kamala Harris is 56 years old.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 06
    +1
    But the most interesting thing is how Russian liberals, following the Western press, accuse 68-year-old Putin and his 60-65-year-old associates of gerontocracy, while completely oblivious to the age of American top politicians, who are, on average, 6-12 years older than the Russian president.

    There is nothing interesting here .. the sense of the manager is important, and age is secondary. If the manager is stupid, then what's the difference what age he is, and if there is benefit from him, then there is no difference either.
    Of course, I personally don't understand why they need billionaires who have everything they need .. the rest of their lives can be spent more interestingly ..
    1. smel
      smel 6 October 2020 15: 11
      +7
      I agree. There was a sense of the young humpbacked, but not for the USSR and the Russian Federation
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 6 October 2020 15: 12
      +4
      Washington elders: is the era of "magnificent funerals" in store for the United States
      do we care? request this is their funeral.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 19
        +4
        It's a pity, so they would have eaten hamburgers, pies ... at the funeral. smile
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 30
          +3
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          ate pies ... at the funeral.

          ... broke two button accordions
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 36
            +2
            good Yes, two will not be enough ... smile Here on a grand scale it is necessary laughing
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 52
              +2
              smashed 5 pianos for firewood?
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 October 2020 15: 23
      +4
      Quote: Svarog
      Of course, I personally don't understand why they need billionaires who have everything they need .. the rest of their lives can be spent more interestingly ..

      Tired of idleness to swim in fat, we decided to warm up a little.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 7 October 2020 11: 37
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Tired of idleness to swim in fat, we decided to warm up a little.

        When income is low, a person generally works largely for money / sustenance. When there is a lot of money, they are used as a tool to satisfy their own ambitions. Achieving power that is not controlled by other forces is one of the most powerful ambitions of almost any person with guaranteed satisfaction of the lower half of the pyramid of needs.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2020 11: 55
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Achieving power uncontrolled by other forces is one of the most powerful ambitions of almost anyone.

          Well, yes, the thirst for power is stronger than the thirst without water.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 12 October 2020 09: 31
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Svarog
        Of course, I personally don't understand why they need billionaires who have everything they need .. the rest of their lives can be spent more interestingly ..

        Tired of idleness to swim in fat, we decided to warm up a little.

        They want to live. At this age, the meaning of life is decisive. Why do you even smoke the sky. And it is worth losing it a little - hello domina, in their case a stamped steel, not a wooden suit, but all the same.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 29
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      If the manager is stupid

      and if the manager is insane?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 30
        +1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Svarog
        If the manager is stupid

        and if the manager is insane?

        Here's the problem laughing But insanity directly affects the result, which means the manager is stupid.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 32
          0
          and from whose position should the result be assessed? repeat
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 38
            +4
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            and from whose position should the result be assessed? repeat

            In the case of the Americans, the result should be assessed according to election promises, if it does, then there is a result. In our case, there were no pre-election debates and promises .. our "genius" and considers it beneath his dignity to plan and defend his position .. and he has a word, like a lady .. today so, and tomorrow I ask you to treat with understanding. For this reason, ours needs to be evaluated according to the following indicators:
            -Economy
            -Demography
            -Standards of living
            -Development of industry
            -Medicine, education, science
            Moreover, they are listed in one order of priority.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 40
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              For this reason, ours needs to be evaluated according to the following indicators:
              set starting point
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 43
                +3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Quote: Svarog
                For this reason, ours needs to be evaluated according to the following indicators:
                set starting point

                If you are talking about the most important thing, then I would point to demography, since it is demography that ultimately reflects the health of society and other spheres .. Well, demography will determine the future .. If industry, medicine, science, education do not develop, if the level life will decrease, then we are doomed to extinction.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 52
                  -2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  then I would point to demography, since it is demography that ultimately reflects the health of society and other areas ..

                  no matter the date of the zero point is needed - with what we compare
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    no matter the date of the zero point is needed - with what we compare

                    Take the period of Stalin's rule.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 54
                      -1
                      not correct, firstly which of the years are we taking to compare the demographic situation, and secondly, will we compare the RSFSR or the USSR?
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 6 October 2020 15: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        not correct, firstly which of the years are we taking to compare the demographic situation, and secondly, will we compare the RSFSR or the USSR?

                        Take any period that seems more advantageous to you, Stalin is in power as much as Putin, moreover, the conditions of government are very different .. Putin has them practically hothouse in comparison with Stalin ..
                        And these are demographic indicators ..
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 16: 05
                        0
                        this is not a correct comparison at all, the increase by nationality, sorry bird, here everything adds up
                        besides this is a comparison of the RSFSR or the USSR ?!
                      3. Svarog
                        Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        this is not a correct comparison at all, the increase by nationality, sorry bird, here everything adds up
                        besides this is a comparison of the RSFSR or the USSR ?!

                        So give an example of a correct comparison. The graph does not show the increase by nationality, but the total number of the population and the share of Russians in it .. The graph is good because it immediately answers the question that liberals usually ask, that the growth was not due to the Russians .. So there is no heap. And the drain is counted. hi
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 16: 11
                        0
                        you suggested it is funny to evaluate, but I must prove
                        once again how are you going to evaluate the activity of the GDP
                        I will clarify, purple is positive or negative
                        tell me what we compare with what and let's compare, just not blue with a round
                      5. Svarog
                        Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        you suggested it is funny to evaluate, but I must prove
                        once again how are you going to evaluate the activity of the GDP
                        I will clarify, purple is positive or negative
                        tell me what we compare with what and let's compare, just not blue with a round

                        That is, you do not know how to assess Putin's activities and how to relate to the results of his activities?
                      6. ZEMCH
                        ZEMCH 6 October 2020 19: 20
                        +4
                        You are asked for numbers for the start date of the board, and numbers for the current date for the issues monitored.
                      7. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 21: 23
                        +2
                        there is no need to translate the arrows, it was YOU who offered to evaluate the activity of the GDP according to specific parameters
                        I asked you to indicate the starting point of coordinates, otherwise I'm sorry, you can't evaluate the result, I'm sorry, but these are elementary basics
                        if starting point for example 93 is one thing, if 2007 is different, if 2014 is third
                        if you do not understand this, then forgive me even there is no desire to conduct further discussion
        2. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 16: 06
          +1
          For example, the Soviet communists compared the results of their work with the best year for Russia in 1913, because, unlike the enemies of the communists, they were people with a sense of their own dignity and a sense of responsibility. They were proud of what they did useful for their country and people in comparison with the Russian Empire. And although they could also compare objectively with the state in which they got the country after two wars - the First World War and the Civil. And you, enemies of the communists, are AFRAID of comparing the results of your work over 30 years with 1991.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 16: 08
            +1
            have you tried thinking before writing?
            once again, I'm not afraid of anything, but for ANY comparison we need dates, what we compare with what, name and we will compare
            1. tatra
              tatra 6 October 2020 16: 48
              0
              You can't read, or are you unable to understand what you read? I clearly wrote the points of reference for the Soviet communists and for you, their enemies, who seized Russia 30 years ago, and you all compare only what you had under the USSR, and what you HAVE GOT after you captured Russia, and the results of the WORK of the Soviet communists - and yours, you are afraid to compare, because you yourself admit that the results of your work are monstrous for Russia and the Russian people. And there is no need to "yakat", how to be angry against everything that the Bolsheviks-Communists did, to proceed with maniacal criticism of how they worked and fought, because the enemies of the Communists are all together, but how to bear responsibility for everything that you yourself have done, this is how it begins. " here I am, me, me, and I have nothing to do with it. "
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 21: 14
              +4
              Quote: tatra
              You can't read, or are you unable to understand what you read? I clearly wrote the points of reference for the Soviet communists and for you, their enemies, who conquered Russia 30 years ago
              the first where you managed to read that I am an enemy of the communists, I am already silent about the fact that 30 years ago I did not live in Russia
              second, when you interfere in someone else's discussion, at least study what the argument was about, you look stupid

              Quote: tatra
              you are afraid to compare, because you yourself admit that the results of your work are monstrous for Russia and the Russian people

              young lady are you in your mind at all ?! 20 years from 91, I heard that I was an occupier in a city founded, among other things by my great-grandfather, and now it turns out that all this time I was breaking up Russia
              when YOU and people like YOU stood up for the fact that 20 million Russians stayed abroad, what did you think about?
              or just like yelling now without delving into the topic?
              Quote: tatra
              And there is no need to "yakat", how to be angry against everything that the Bolsheviks-Communists did, to proceed with maniacal criticism of how they worked and fought, because the enemies of the Communists are all together, but how to bear responsibility for everything that you yourself have done, this is how it begins. " here I am, me, me, and I have nothing to do with it. "

              heal
            3. Motorist
              Motorist 6 October 2020 22: 23
              +4
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              where did you manage to read that I am an enemy of the communists

              Vladimir, she (?) Every second is an enemy of the communists. In my opinion, this is some kind of disease; you just need to sympathize and advise you to see a doctor - do not judge strictly.
      2. nnm
        nnm 6 October 2020 17: 09
        +2
        Dear Tatra, I think it would be more correct to compare the growth rates of the main indicators.
        It is absurd to argue that the USSR has become an industrial and social giant, but it seems to me that it would be more correct and clearer to compare the dynamics + compare it with the dynamics of other economies.
        1. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 17: 14
          0
          And let’s you honestly admit that the result of the capture of Russia by the enemies of the communists is a total degradation in EVERYTHING compared to the Soviet period, starting with the quality of power, the system in the country, the economy, demography, the social sphere? And of course, the mentality of those who own the country, their vocabulary?
        2. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2020 17: 17
          +4
          Well, it's even silly to argue with this. More precisely, with the comparison results for the main indicators. But about who captured there (are not comrades with party membership cards from the higher echelons), I think it is useless to argue, because in this part you are not ready to accept counter-arguments.
        3. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 17: 20
          -4
          Ha, that is, do you evaluate the ideological convictions of people solely by their membership cards? Is Zhirinovsky a liberal and a democrat for you? And if you had a friend who for many years said that he was your friend, and then betrayed you, began to slander you, accuse you of crimes, would you consider him your friend until the end of your life?
        4. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2020 17: 28
          +4
          Dear colleague, I propose to listen to WHAT I am writing, and not to decide for me just who and whom I consider. Otherwise I will ask you why you are not guided by the theses of Lenin's article "The Tasks of the Units of the Revolutionary Army", but are content with the struggle on the Internet. I hope you are familiar with the theses of this work? bully
          Therefore, let's abandon the dispute for the sake of the dispute, and move on to the point when discussing issues.
        5. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 17: 34
          -2
          The enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are a unique phenomenon in humanity, they have nothing that is nothing good, but simply normal. So, the Russian enemies of the communists thank the CPSU member Gorbachev for the "freedom", for 30 years they have been imposing the members of the CPSU Yeltsin, Putin, Medvedev in the power of Russia, they voted for the members of the CPSU Yavlinsky and Prokhorov in the elections, and they immediately throw all their supporters of the Communists into the power of Russia. " ours, they are your communists. "
        6. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2020 17: 39
          +4
          Would you like a quote from YOUR Gorbachev's New Thinking? Read .... a straightforward Leninist to the core - he is sleeping with his party card at his heart. So, there is no need to disown the "heroes" here - it is the Soviet party nomenclature that has become few in numbers, assets, and so on. It was YOU who wanted more for your loved ones. So come on, don't be about the fact that they are not yours. This is entirely the merit of your reincarnations.
        7. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 17: 46
          0
          That is, you did not want to, but using the example of Gorbachev, you still answered my question. If a person first called himself your friend, and then proved that he is your fierce enemy, you will still consider him your friend. This is idiocy.
        8. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2020 17: 52
          +4
          No, you want to tell me that when it is convenient for you, he is a communist, and when it is not convenient for you, no, he is a traitor! How convenient - if he, Korolyov, is correct, good, then he is a communist! And when he was tried before that, he was an enemy of the people and not a communist. Today, the leader of production - hurray! Communist! Tomorrow he raped, killed someone - the enemy !!!! And not a communist. Very comfortably. Please be responsible for those whom you yourself accepted into the party. You gave him recommendations, you voted for his admission, you voted for his nomination! You, not non-partisans. So the responsibility is fully on you. And the analogy with a friend is not true, because friendship is an emotional category, not formalized. there should be an analogy with a member of a work collective. Or what if the director committed theft, then everything, you will assure everyone that in fact you have never been an employee of your plant?
        9. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 18: 01
          -2
          And you are one of those who have been slandering the Bolshevik-Communists for 30 years, destroying, destroying everything Soviet, enriched, crucified like "and now it is better than under the Communists", and cowardly blaming the Communists on the responsibility for the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR, and for everything that the enemies of the communists have done with the republics of the USSR and their peoples that they have captured. How well the enemies of the communists settled down, first, together with Yeltsin, they blamed the Soviet communists for what they had done to Russia and the Russian people, then together with Putin, including his "galoshes." And they themselves have only big and huge salaries and incomes compared to the people, to parasitize at the expense of other people's labor, to plant a vicious anti-Sovietism, to praise the enemies of the communists.
        10. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2020 18: 08
          +4
          I think you have set a world record in mentioning the words "communist" and "enemy" in one text, surpassing Lenin, Stalin and even sentences to enemies of the people)))
          But in fact, to be honest, you have very weak theoretical training in the theory of Marxism-Leninism and the history of the CPSU. No offense and respect, colleague.
          You know, I am with great interest in the idea of ​​socialism, but one has only to imagine that you and "faithful Leninists" like you will come to power again ... stop
          After all, you will walk on the bones of people, proving that your communism is more correct than the communism of other people. You will turn the country into China during the Cultural Revolution and the regime of the Khmer Rouge ...
        11. tatra
          tatra 6 October 2020 18: 15
          -2
          Well, how can I care about the enemies of the communists, who do not have themselves, you are not yourself in the history of the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, and falling into hysterics when you are called that. In both the Soviet period and the post-Soviet period, you have only communists. For 30 years after your seizure of the USSR, every day you selflessly "suck" everything that the communists did, how they worked and fought, and categorically do not want to discuss yourself, everything that you did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods.
        12. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 21: 18
          +2
          Quote: tatra
          everything that you did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods

          but let’s specifically WHAT PERSONALLY YOU DID IN THE LAST 30 YEARS ?!
          so far, apart from saliva on the monitor, nothing is visible
  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: tatra
    For 30 years, the members of the CPSU Yeltsin, Putin, Medvedev have been imposed on the power of Russia, they voted for the members of the CPSU Yavlinsky and Prokhorov in the elections

    and who YOU ​​voted for?
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 October 2020 12: 05
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and who YOU ​​voted for?

    I do not know for whom "tatra" votes, but this is dearer to me - "I am for Lenin, for Stalin, I am for all Soviet women."
  4. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2020 12: 31
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    I am for all Soviet women

    well, it's hard to argue with that
  • Hagen
    Hagen 7 October 2020 11: 43
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    If industry, medicine, science, education do not develop, if the standard of living will decrease, then we are doomed to extinction.

    Doesn't fit. The countries with the highest population growth do not show high results either in the economy, or in medicine, or in the standard of living ... Here is something different. We are following the European path of civilization development. We are becoming more and more a consumer society. And this does not dispose to self-restraint and thoughts about the wide spread of the genus.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 12 October 2020 09: 32
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and from whose position should the result be assessed? repeat

    From the standpoint of those who promoted them there. This has nothing to do with elections, promises, benefits for the country and other nonsense.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 October 2020 11: 57
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and if the manager is insane?

    This is for sure, insanity is like a pandemic, only it does not mow down everyone, but only managers.
  • Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 6 October 2020 16: 14
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    There is nothing interesting here .. the sense of the manager is important, and age is secondary. If the manager is stupid, then what's the difference what age he is, and if there is benefit from him, then there is no difference either.

    I cannot remember a single chess player who became world champion at 60. Usually they end their careers altogether at 40. Why, you ask? Yes, because nature is merciless, and by this time, even the best of the best, the inter-ear ganglion is gradually turning into hard lime, and they are no longer able to compete with the younger and no less capable. So age matters, and how much.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 6 October 2020 16: 23
      +5
      Quote: Aleksandre
      So age matters, and how much.

      I partly agree with you. But in old age there are pluses, hormones do not interfere with making sober decisions. Here it depends more on the constitution of a person .. The brain, of course, is no longer so plastic, and the memory is not the same .. But again, there is a result - it means there is a strategy, vision and will to achieve the goal. No result - for retirement ..
      But if they propose sometime to limit the reign of presidents to the retirement age, I'm only FOR. I mean the same ..
      1. nnm
        nnm 6 October 2020 17: 15
        +6
        Quite right. You have practically quoted theses from Plato's "State" regarding age. But I think there is a more important question - the team. Who is included in it, because the leader alone means little. Who would Roosevelt be without Wallace, or Stalin without such a manager as Beria? But there are only one in a million. And in the end, the team can begin to slowly creep up to the power of the leader, as with the same Stalin, or use him as a screen behind which you can do whatever you want. And this is true both for the elderly dear Leonid Ilyich and the young Zelensky. Thus, it seems, more important is the direction of the mood of the top of the political, economic, industrial elite. If these are people living in the interests of their country, then they will not allow the ruler's insanity to roam. As with the same Khrushchev ...
    2. nnm
      nnm 6 October 2020 17: 31
      +2
      Copernicus, by the way, formulated his theory in 60)))
      1. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 6 October 2020 19: 18
        +2
        Quote: nnm
        Copernicus, by the way, formulated his theory in 60)))

        But he worked on it for more than a dozen years, starting at a fairly young age.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 6 October 2020 20: 46
    +2
    Donald Trump is 6 years older than Putin

    What happens? Do you have time to swing?

    And the fight continues again
    And heartbreakingly in chest,
    And Putin is so young
    And the buildup is still ahead.
  • engineer74
    engineer74 6 October 2020 15: 15
    +3
    The American gerontocracy has its pluses - anyone can be strangled with a pillow without arousing unnecessary suspicion, and a "young energetic leader" a la Gorbachev can be nominated. wink
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 15
    +4
    But in the US, no one is confused by the age of Trump, or his rival Biden, or other influential politicians.
    laughing My age, too, does not bother Trump, Biden, Putin or his associates. It is upsetting that there are no promising young people either in the United States or in the Russian Federation. One thing is surprising how under Stalin the People's Commissariats were headed by quite young people under forty and successfully coped. And now, it turns out that neither they nor we have such personnel.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 31
      -1
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      how under Stalin the people's commissariats were headed by quite young people under forty and successfully coped

      not always the same
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 37
        +2
        Compared to today, we managed it.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 43
          -2
          Tukhachevsky, Khrushchev
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 46
            +2
            I'm talking about the people's commissars, about the ministers ... Baybakov, Ustinov and others ... Tukhachevsky is deputy people's commissar, Khrushchev was not a people's commissar either, along the party line ..
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 October 2020 15: 55
              -2
              we can give examples of people's commissars who broke up and filled up
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 7 October 2020 13: 29
              0
              As a member of the Politburo, Khrushchev surpassed most of the people's commissars in status.
  • iouris
    iouris 6 October 2020 15: 31
    0
    And already our victory ... We must wait for less than a month.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 6 October 2020 15: 40
      +1
      And already our victory ...
      .... "Yes, Malchish-Kibalchish rushed to help them" (c)
  • Rudkovsky
    Rudkovsky 6 October 2020 15: 35
    -6
    What does the age of Soviet rulers have to do with it, who in their 70s could no longer read the text from a piece of paper? Another state, another era, another medicine. Look at the debate at least how these "old people" smartly discussed with each other. Even if their bodies have become limp over the years, then the mind is quite in place and that's enough.

    Well, the "stagnation" of the United States is generally such a meme for the inhabitants of the third world states, their joy in life and a ray of hope for the poor and lazy.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 October 2020 15: 35
    0
    Washington elders: is the USA waiting for the era of "magnificent funerals

    Why not, we have already gone through this.
  • U-58
    U-58 6 October 2020 15: 36
    -3
    Is this the author rubbing us in about the youth and inexhaustible reserves of the incumbent president, or is he prophesying stagnation and decay of the West?
  • Rokambol
    Rokambol 6 October 2020 15: 40
    12
    Somehow their age is not interesting. I wonder what kind of policy they will pursue in the world. Will they abandon the old imperialism or tighten their imposition of democracy in different countries.
  • reeston
    reeston 6 October 2020 15: 44
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    But the most interesting thing is how Russian liberals, following the Western press, accuse 68-year-old Putin and his 60-65-year-old associates of gerontocracy, while completely oblivious to the age of American top politicians, who are, on average, 6-12 years older than the Russian president.

    There is nothing interesting here .. the sense of the manager is important, and age is secondary. If the manager is stupid, then what's the difference what age he is, and if there is benefit from him, then there is no difference either.
    Of course, I personally don't understand why they need billionaires who have everything they need .. the rest of their lives can be spent more interestingly ..

    Money is good up to a certain point, only power is farther!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 October 2020 16: 11
    -1
    We need to check them for the testosterone level.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 6 October 2020 16: 22
    +2
    Quote: smel
    humpbacked

    at the Goblin on the canal they made out what Gorbachev said before perestroika.
    it turned out that he did not know Marxism at all. Almost nothing. Hence his really sincere delusions and misunderstandings. How could such a person become the head of the USSR?
    And not only an ignoramus (graduated from Moscow State University !!!), but also a rag as a person.
    This is how the top degraded, and people condoned it.
  • Vanches
    Vanches 6 October 2020 16: 22
    -2
    Well, and a comparison, they have at least elections of two or more candidates, without chernukha and "systemic opposition" such as the Liberal Democratic Party and the SR, although there is intrigue. If a pensioner won a convincing victory in the elections, in the real elections), then I don't see anything wrong with that.
    1. nnm
      nnm 6 October 2020 17: 42
      +2
      That's how I want to ask - name the third)))
      "No chernukha" - seriously ?!)))) Yes, such slops, as in the recent campaigns in the United States and can not be found. This is even if you do not go into the nuances of mass "suicides" of auditors and lawyers checking the Clinton funds ...
      And what is the intrigue, in fact ??? Can you name ten points of difference between elephants and donkeys right off the bat?
      1. Vanches
        Vanches 7 October 2020 10: 44
        0
        Name the third))) honestly, I didn't understand the sarcasm, I don't even know what to say.
        Chernukha is when, 2 weeks before the elections in Russia, suddenly inconvenient candidates find foreign accounts or find any insults that the candidate allegedly cheated in the 90s, etc., although maybe you are right and they also have some kind of problems that pop up a week before the elections. Something "SECRET DOCUMENTS"), I was simply not interested in how they advertise there, but bp, there is at least a real struggle of competitors, Clinton or Trump still thought that a democratic woman would win, but hell. And since there is intrigue, there is a choice, then people are at least a little interested in candidates, and not on from .... if they put a tick.
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 6 October 2020 16: 26
    +2
    Old age does not add intelligence, experience, or health.
    After 65 years, please retire.
    And this rule should apply to all, without exception, heads of the highest and middle levels of the state administration.
    The point is not even that age, but that one should not be a stone on the road of young people, one should not be a blood clot in the circulatory system of the state. You have to understand when it is already "time", but since there is no understanding - please, in accordance with the retirement age - to leave.
    No replacement? Well, then you were a bad leader, since you didn't prepare a replacement for yourself. After all, it is by the students that teachers are judged.
    What to do if you are still full of energy? There is a lot to do. Starting from consultations, ending with lectures and writing memoirs. Again, with grandchildren, if any, it's time to joke around.
    In short, the rule is simple and worthy of inclusion in the Constitution: 65? You are a student, brother, again!
    I think so.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 6 October 2020 19: 44
      0
      For senior management, limit to 70 years. I think it's time to retire. Starting from consultations, ending with lectures and writing memoirs. - again, not a bad option for those who have retained vigor of body and mind. hi
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 6 October 2020 18: 53
    0
    Along the way of the late USSR. Let's see what happens to the American Empire.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 6 October 2020 19: 34
    -1
    VVP for life as a law student. Pupil of Sobchak.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 October 2020 23: 12
    -1
    Quote: nnm
    Can you name ten points of difference between elephants and donkeys right off the bat?

    One is enough - some representatives of the world financial capital, the second - national industrial.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 7 October 2020 11: 55
      0
      Trump - the representative of the national industrial capital? Seriously?
  • Brturin
    Brturin 6 October 2020 23: 35
    0
    the era of "magnificent funerals"

    They had a "sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce - he said that the 44th president would be the last, Trump 45, but one (Stephen Grover Cleveland) was twice with a gap, so if you count on the "heads" then ... although Errare humanum est
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 7 October 2020 11: 58
    0
    Even if Trump or Biden dies in office, the vice president will inherit it. Both potential vice presidents are younger than Putin. So there will be no funeral era. The only lavish funeral - maybe.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Just your opinion. There is no need to trim the cream of American society to our mentality. We all came from the common people. Since childhood, American candidates have been instilled with special attention to their health. All the numerous servants are only concerned with the health of their boss. Who do Hollywood artists take as an example? Again, from them. The death of the president, apparently, is also not critical. The role of the president is immediately taken over by the vice president. In the end, the role of the president is limited by many factors.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Just your opinion. There is no need to trim the cream of American society to our mentality. We all came from the common people. Since childhood, American candidates have been instilled with special attention to their health. All the numerous servants are only concerned with the health of their boss. Who do Hollywood artists take as an example? Again, from them. The death of the president, apparently, is also not critical. The role of the president is immediately taken over by the vice president. In the end, the role of the president is limited by many factors.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Just your opinion. There is no need to trim the cream of American society to our mentality. We all came from the common people. Since childhood, American candidates have been instilled with special attention to their health. All the numerous servants are only concerned with the health of their boss. Who do Hollywood artists take as an example? Again, from them. The death of the president, apparently, is also not critical. The role of the president is immediately taken over by the vice president. In the end, the role of the president is limited by many factors.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Just your opinion. There is no need to trim the cream of American society to our mentality. We all came from the common people. Since childhood, American candidates have been instilled with special attention to their health. All the numerous servants are only concerned with the health of their boss. Who do Hollywood artists take as an example? Again, from them. The death of the president, apparently, is also not critical. The role of the president is immediately taken over by the vice president. In the end, the role of the president is limited by many factors.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 October 2020 13: 19
    0
    Just your opinion. There is no need to trim the cream of American society to our mentality. We all came from the common people. Since childhood, American candidates have been instilled with special attention to their health. All the numerous servants are only concerned with the health of their boss. Who do Hollywood artists take as an example? Again, from them. The death of the president, apparently, is also not critical. The role of the president is immediately taken over by the vice president. In the end, the role of the president is limited by many factors.
  • Kushka
    Kushka 7 October 2020 13: 43
    0
    Late USSR. Newspaper stand near Privoz.
    Every day in the morning a man runs up, fluently
    examines the entire layout of newspapers and, nothing
    buying it, leaves. Finally a Jewish salesman
    could not resist and asked - are you looking for?
    He answered - an obituary. So they are written on the last
    page! THE ONE I WAIT WILL BE FIRST!
  • Kushka
    Kushka 7 October 2020 13: 44
    0
    Late USSR. Newspaper stand near Privoz.
    Every day in the morning a man runs up, fluently
    examines the entire layout of newspapers and, nothing
    buying it, leaves. Finally a Jewish salesman
    could not resist and asked - are you looking for?
    He answered - an obituary. So they are written on the last
    page! THE ONE I WAIT WILL BE FIRST!
  • Kushka
    Kushka 7 October 2020 13: 45
    0
    Late USSR. Newspaper stand near Privoz.
    Every day in the morning a man runs up, fluently
    examines the entire layout of newspapers and, nothing
    buying it, leaves. Finally a Jewish salesman
    could not resist and asked - are you looking for?
    He answered - an obituary. So they are written on the last
    page! THE ONE I WAIT WILL BE FIRST!
  • NF68
    NF68 7 October 2020 16: 12
    0
    The United States has been buried for more than a decade, but so far the United States is in no hurry to die.
  • NF68
    NF68 7 October 2020 16: 12
    0
    The United States has been buried for more than a decade, but so far the United States is in no hurry to die.
  • NF68
    NF68 7 October 2020 16: 12
    0
    The United States has been buried for more than a decade, but so far the United States is in no hurry to die.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 7 October 2020 17: 33
    0
    If there are a lot of people in the country who occupy leading positions at the age of 70, this also indicates that it is very difficult to get up to those who are now 50+ ... And those who are now 40+ - on the contrary, will get into the stream - when 75 85-year-olds will begin to massively carry out of their offices with their feet first !!!
    But in general, I personally knew very sensible people - professors who, in 75, read entire sections of higher mathematics from memory !!! And I know those about whom, even at 45, they said that it was like a talent but in fact an oak tree ... So the connection between age and intelligence is too individual !!!
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  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 7 October 2020 20: 39
    -1
    Quote: Eye of the Crying
    Trump - the representative of the national industrial capital? Seriously?

    Yes. Seriously.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 7 October 2020 20: 41
    -1
    Quote: NF68
    The United States has been buried for more than a decade, but so far the United States is in no hurry to die.

    Let's see what will happen on November 4th. Very interesting.