Combat aircraft. An underestimated unique victim

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Before us today is a very extraordinary aircraft, in fact, which became the prototype and platform for starting the development of a whole family of machines, the main purpose of which would be to provide amphibious operations.

It all began in the mid-30s of the last century, when the aircraft building boom began. Army commanders around the world have realized the benefits of moving troops quickly over long distances with appropriate aircraft. So whoever could, he attended to the creation of new types of aircraft, transport / cargo. Those who could not afford such a luxury prepared to buy from the former.



The Junkers, the successful model of which, the Ju.52m, was produced in various modifications and, in addition to Germany, was purchased by 27 countries around the world.


The operation of "Auntie Yu" showed that the transfer of troops, especially equipment, must be approached differently than the conversion of a passenger plane into a cargo plane. First of all, it was necessary to bring the speed of loading and unloading operations to a different level, which required a new approach to design.

The Germans were the first to understand the benefits of fast transportation of equipment over long distances. And the Luftwaffe came to the conclusion that the Ju 52 / 3m was already becoming obsolete, and it was necessary to develop a new aircraft to replace it, with the help of which it would be possible to transfer not only people and goods, but also military equipment, including tracked ones.

It was not the luminaries (which is surprising) that took up the development business, but the firms, one might say, standing aside from the big contracts, Arado and Henschel. Apparently, the reason was the loading of the same "Junkers" and "Heinkel" by other projects.

Firms were sent technical specifications for aircraft design. In general, the conditions were very interesting, the projected vehicle had to carry two armored vehicles and be able to land and take off from unprepared sites of limited size.

Two projects were submitted on time, that is, by the fall of 1939. The project "Arado" won the competition, which it was decided to implement in metal in the amount of two copies for testing. The aircraft was named Ar-232.

Combat aircraft. An underestimated unique victim

To say that beginners are lucky, in our case, is impossible. "Arado" was a well-known company, but it was not pampered with orders. It was about the peculiar relationship of the Stinnes family with the Hitler regime. The company "Arado" was part of the empire created by Hugo Stinnes, so that later became famous "Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH" originates from the German-American empire of the Stinnes family.

From 1925 to 1945, over 20 years, the Arado company developed and built various aircraft: from training aircraft to the world's first jet bomber Ar-234.

But we are interested in the plane, which was named Ar-232.


The aircraft was created by the chief designer of "Arado" Wilhelm Van Nes and turned out to be not only original, but also with rather good flight characteristics in terms of speed, flight range and takeoff and landing characteristics.

That is what was needed, in theory.

The aircraft was conceived as a high-wing aircraft, with a wing on top of the fuselage and engines on the wing. The vertical tail was made according to a fashionable spaced two-keel scheme, which made it possible to use a horizontal and vertical tail, small in area, with low aerodynamic resistance.

But the main "highlight" of the Van Ness plane was the landing gear. The chassis is, of course, something unimaginable for those years. For takeoffs and landings from normal airfields, the aircraft had a conventional tricycle landing gear with a nose wheel. But for work from unprepared sites in the bottom of the fuselage, another chassis was arranged, consisting of 22 wheels of small diameter.


This innovation made it possible to sit down almost anywhere. Neither pits nor ditches were obstacles, even the trunks of the fallen trees were not critical. For such an unusual appearance and abilities in the Luftwaffe, the aircraft was nicknamed "Tausendfüßler", in a direct translation - "Millipede", but the meaning is closer to "Centipede".

In terms of handling, the plane was excellent. The rear of the fuselage could be lowered hydraulically, acting as a ramp. In the ceiling of the cargo compartment, a rail was laid along which an electric hoist moved.


The defensive armament was supposed to consist of three coaxial MG-81Z machine guns. One installation was located in the nose, one - a circular fire on the top of the fuselage, one - above the ramp for firing back.

In June 1941, the first Ar-232V1 prototype performed its first flight, which, on the one hand, was unsuccessful, and on the other, successful. The main landing gear failed during landing. An ordinary plane, naturally, would most likely be wrecked when landing on its belly. But the Centipede was put on an additional chassis quite normally, and it all ended without incident.

Following the first aircraft, a second prototype was assembled, on which the designers did a fair amount of work on the armament. Instead of the nose and the MG.81Z mounted above the ramp, MG.131 machine guns of 13 mm caliber were installed, and instead of the upper machine gun mount, a 20 mm MG-151/20 cannon.


It was a more serious deal. Still, by 1941, it became clear that the time for the rifle-caliber rattles had finally passed and large-caliber machine guns looked more preferable.

In addition, each side was equipped with 4 pivot installations, of which they could fire from machine guns, for example, taken on board paratroopers. Eight 7,92 mm machine guns are also a good help when it comes to fighting off enemy fighters.

In total, 10 aircraft of the pre-series A-0 were manufactured, which began operation as transport in the KG-200 squadron.

I liked the plane very much. And since the appetite comes with eating, the Luftwaffe decided that Arado could easily cope with the design and manufacture of the four-engine Ar-232В modification with BMW-Bramo 323R-2 Fafnir engines with a capacity of 1000 hp each. each.

And in "Arado" they coped, and discouragingly quickly. The seemingly difficult task was solved very simply: an insert was designed into the wing in its central part with two more motors. Cheap and cheerful, and most importantly - technologically simple.


The first Ar-232В aircraft took off in May 1942. The car flew in exactly the same way as the twin-engine version, but, naturally, took more payload. After the tests, a series of 18 vehicles was ordered and laid down.

The Ar-232 of both models had a pretty promising future. These aircraft were planned to be used both in Africa and in the Arctic, and between these extremes. Therefore, the development of kits for the use of aircraft both in cold conditions and in heat and dust began immediately.

But alas story ordered otherwise.

The first combat use of the "Centipede" took place when trying to supply Paulus' army surrounded in Stalingrad. It was there that the first two four-engine prototypes of the "B" series were sent for "combat" tests.

The first plane did not reach the Eastern Front at all, because it got into a heavy snowfall over the territory of Poland and eventually crashed.

But the second four-engine and four twin-engine aircraft flew to Stalingrad until the very surrender of the 6th Army. And they received the most flattering reviews, because the design of the machines allowed them what other planes could not: land anywhere without skis.


Used "Centipedes" and in the Arctic. It was with the help of these aircraft that automatic equipment for collecting meteorological information was delivered to Spitsbergen. For this, it was necessary to install additional fuel tanks, but 5 tons of fuel allowed us to safely fly from Banak (Norway) to Spitsbergen and back.

Ar-232 flew to Bear Island with the same mission. Moreover, the crew managed to plant the plane in the mud to the very hubs during landing, but after a day of shock excavation (more precisely, mud) work, the plane was able to take off and head for the base.

Our specialists also appreciated the plane. One of the Ar-232 flying in the Arctic made an emergency landing near the village of Kuklovo, Arkhangelsk region. "Centipede", or rather, what was left of it, was examined by specialists from the Research Institute of the Red Army Air Force and, as a result, issued the following conclusion:

The German four-engine military transport aircraft "Arado-232" is a cantilever monoplane of a metal structure with a high wing position and a two-fin tail, mounted on the tail boom. The aircraft has two landing gear: retractable three-wheeled and non-retractable multi-wheeled. The aircraft has a crew of five.

"Arado-232" is specially designed for transportation of bulky cargo and weapons, as well as for airborne assault. This is ensured by the presence of a spacious cargo compartment 10 m long, 2,5 m wide and 2 m high, as well as the large size of the cargo hatch.

Inspection of the remains of the damaged Arado-232 aircraft gives some idea of ​​its design. The fuselage of the aircraft with the tail boom, controls, part of the empennage and wings have been preserved.

The cockpit is located in the glazed forward fuselage. The seats of two pilots are placed side by side at the front of the cockpit. Directly behind them are the seats of the gunner-radio operator and navigator. The rest of the fuselage, separated from the cockpit by a partition, is a cargo hold.

A door on the left side of the fuselage serves to enter the plane. Loading and unloading of goods is carried out through the rear of the fuselage. A monorail is laid along the ceiling of the cargo compartment. A hoist with a carrying capacity of up to 2000 kg moves along it. There are lugs in the floor and walls of the compartment for securing loads. To accommodate the troops along the sides of the cargo compartment, reclining seats for 24 people are reinforced. The dural tail unit with two rectangular keels is mounted on a special beam.

The main landing gear is a tricycle, retracted in flight using a hydraulic system. Side leg racks serve as a hydraulic jack for lowering the aircraft onto a multi-wheel fixed landing gear and lifting onto the main three-wheel landing gear.

The additional all-terrain chassis consists of ten pairs of spring-damped wheels mounted under the fuselage along the axis of the aircraft. It serves to land an aircraft on unprepared sites. In this case, the side legs of the main landing gear in the shortened position are side supports that protect the aircraft from stalling onto the wing.

Loading and unloading of goods is carried out when the aircraft is parked on a multi-wheeled chassis, for this the front leg is removed, pressure is released from the racks of the side legs, and they are shortened. Part of the compartment floor leans back to the ground and a ladder is formed, and the rear wall of the fuselage rises to the ceiling of the cargo compartment.

The result is an entrance to the inside of the cargo compartment. After the download is complete, all operations are performed in reverse order. Taxiing and takeoff are performed on a tricycle chassis.

The aircraft does not have bomber weapons and armor protection. Radio communication is provided by a FuG-16 radio station and an additional portable radio.

"Centipedes" plowed through the entire war, transporting goods wherever they could send them. They also supplied groups of Germans surrounded by Soviet troops, evacuated whoever was possible, but the further towards the end of the war, the more difficult it was to do all this. Still, Soviet superiority aviation became total, and in such conditions you cannot fly.


In 1944, the Arado company proposed to the Luftwaffe a project for a deep modification of the aircraft called the Ar-432. It was an aircraft in the spirit of the end of the war: a mixed structure with wooden outer wing sections and a tail unit. In the Reich, it became bad with metal, and any savings were only welcomed.

The Luftwaffe liked the idea and was given the command to start building a prototype. And it was decided to start the serial construction of the Ar-432 in October 1944. There is no exact data on whether the Ar-432 test prototypes were built; after the war, several partially assembled components and assemblies of the aircraft were found at the plant in Jaeger.

In addition to the creation of Ar-432 under the indexes Ar-532, 632 and E.441, it was planned to design larger versions of this aircraft. All of them practically did not differ from each other and had a wingspan of 60 m, six engines and an additional chassis with 30 wheels.

However, in December 1943, a discouraging order came from the Luftwaffe command: to stop the production of Ar-232 of all modifications in favor of the release of Fw-190 fighters.

In addition, it was planned to install BMW.801MA engines on the new models, which went to the same Focke-Wulfs.

In fact, it was a verdict for our hero. In fact, it turned out to release all 22 cars of all modifications, which, of course, absolutely could not have even a negligible effect on the course of the war.


It is worth noting that the Ar-232 was an excellent replacement for the Ju 52 / 3m. He had a speed 70 km / h higher, flew further, lifted twice as much cargo, took off and landed anywhere, and was fairly well armed.

In addition, the pilots of the Ar-232 had an excellent view from the cockpit (over 200 degrees), loading and unloading equipment and cargo was quick and convenient.

It was from this plane that two Abwehr agents with a motorcycle were landed in the Smolensk region, whose task was to assassinate Stalin using the Panzerknakke rocket launcher.

It can be safely asserted that the world's first specialized military transport aircraft capable of operating from unprepared takeoff and landing sites was a success. The only thing that removed him from the scene was the inevitable collapse of the Third Reich.

And the plane came out very good, we must pay tribute to the company "Arado". And many such machines of the future were built with an eye on this, perhaps strange-looking, but very useful aircraft.


LTH Ar.232b-0

Wingspan, m: 33,50.
Length, m: 23,60.
Height, m: 5,70.
Wing area m: 138,00.

Weight, kg:
- empty aircraft: 12 790;
- normal takeoff: 20 000.

Engines: 4 x BMW-Bramo-323 "Fafnir" x 1200.

Maximum speed, km / h: 305.
Cruising speed, km / h: 288.
Practical range, km: 1.
Maximum rate of climb, m / min: 285.
Practical ceiling, m: 6900.

Crew, person: 5.

Payload: 2000 kg of cargo and 8 passengers.

Armament:
- one movable 13 mm MG-131 machine gun in the nose with 500 rounds;
- one 20 mm MG-151 cannon in the upper turret;
- two 13-mm MG-131 machine guns with 500 rounds in the rear installation.
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  1. +5
    6 October 2020 18: 12
    Thank you. Really nice car.
  2. +6
    6 October 2020 18: 31
    A really interesting piece of aviation technology.
  3. +3
    6 October 2020 18: 33
    The layout is advanced, but the mass return is not high even in comparison with the Ju-52 - 15% for Junkers and 10% for Arado, for Douglas (and Li-2) and even for 20%
    1. +3
      6 October 2020 19: 27
      This is the price for the fact that all the time "drag" 22 fixed wheels. And the weight and aerodynamics. Although a good idea, to say - a transport plane for special tasks
      1. -1
        6 October 2020 19: 48
        Duck why "overpay" - you could put the ski.
        1. +5
          6 October 2020 20: 33
          There, in the article, it is said that even tree trunks are not a problem. It is unlikely that this happened with the ski. Precisely, a special plane.
          1. +4
            6 October 2020 20: 38
            You don't need to believe everything what is written in the article, see with your own eyes. Ch.z. the tree trunks of the landing gear will be broken on any landing, and there can be no question of takeoff.
        2. 0
          7 October 2020 06: 32
          Quote: mark1
          Duck why "overpay" - you could put the ski.

          Better a caterpillar, then ...
          1. +1
            7 October 2020 07: 06
            Weight, above all weight. The ski is light and simple (don't just take its construct as close to the skis of a skier or hunter). So the purpose of the wheels was to preserve the stability of the aircraft during loading and unloading and not for hopping the ch.z. windbreaks, but the ski would have coped with it. An excessive number of firing points also negatively affects the total weight; the hydraulic drive for opening and closing the flaps is also an excess with such a small gp. The tail boom in the form of a small-diameter pipe has low strength and is prone to vibration, and may break off when roughly fitted.
            1. +2
              7 October 2020 07: 52
              Quote: mark1
              The ski is light and simple

              Is it simple? :) Well, it depends on what size ...
              (one should not only perceive its constructiveness as close to the skis of a skier or a hunter).

              You are what?
              So the purpose of the wheels was to preserve the stability of the aircraft during loading and unloading.

              Funny.
              may break off in case of a rough fit.

              Yah?! :))) Seriously? :)
              1. -1
                7 October 2020 08: 22
                Quote: Avis
                Well, it depends at what size ...

                And what, the dimensions are outrageous?
                Quote: Avis
                You are what?
                And this is for you ..
                Quote: Avis
                Funny.

                Read the description, for example, David Donald, my funny friend.
                Quote: Avis
                Yah?! :))) Seriously? :)

                Well, not all of you giggle, sometimes it happens seriously
                1. -2
                  7 October 2020 08: 34
                  Quote: mark1
                  Quote: Avis
                  Well, it depends at what size ...

                  And what, the dimensions are outrageous?
                  Quote: Avis
                  You are what?
                  And this is for you ..
                  Quote: Avis
                  Funny.

                  Read the description, for example, David Donald, my funny friend.
                  Quote: Avis
                  Yah?! :))) Seriously? :)

                  Well, not all of you giggle, sometimes it happens seriously

                  Clear. You are just chatting.
                  1. -4
                    7 October 2020 08: 49
                    So do not chat without knowing the topic.
                    1. +1
                      7 October 2020 09: 11
                      Quote: mark1
                      So do not chat without knowing the topic.

                      Nude ...
      2. +1
        8 October 2020 08: 25
        Not only + reinforced armament + unloading mechanization
  4. +7
    6 October 2020 18: 35
    In 1944, on one of the Arado versions, two German intelligence agents, Tavrin and Shilov, were thrown into our rear with the aim of committing an attempt on Stalin's life. When crossing the front line, the plane was fired upon, damaged and made an emergency landing. Tavrin and Shilova left the landing site on a motorcycle that was in the same plane. After a while, they were detained, subsequently Shilova agreed to take part in a radio game, which lasted almost until the end of the war. sad
    1. +1
      6 October 2020 19: 24
      Quote: Radikal
      In 1944, on one of the Arado versions, two German intelligence agents, Tavrin and Shilov, were thrown into our rear with the aim of committing an attempt on Stalin's life. When crossing the front line, the plane was fired upon, damaged and made an emergency landing. Tavrin and Shilova left the landing site on a motorcycle that was in the same plane. After a while, they were detained, subsequently Shilova agreed to take part in a radio game, which lasted almost until the end of the war. sad

      And still they shot
      After the arrest, Pyotr Tavrin and his wife Lydia Shilova are in prison. They are used in the interests of Soviet intelligence. At the end of September 44, the first report was sent to Germany: "We arrived safely. We started work." The last message was sent a month before Germany's surrender. The verdict - execution - was passed to both only seven years after the unsuccessful delivery, in 1952.
      More details: https://www.m24.ru/articles/sovetskij-soyuz/14052014/44278?utm_source=CopyBuf
      1. 0
        7 October 2020 00: 56
        our prisoners of war from the cauldrons and sentences were not passed. drove into the field, fenced off with a thorn and die as you want. And these lived for another 7 years on state support. it is strange that they did not spank right away in 45, they fed for so many years
        1. 0
          7 October 2020 12: 15
          Quote: ecolog
          our prisoners of war from the cauldrons and sentences were not passed. drove into the field, fenced off with a thorn and die as you want.

          strange parallel. And what value did "our prisoners of war" represent for German intelligence in terms of a combination game? Were they all Majors Vikhri and Katya Kozlov?
    2. +3
      6 October 2020 19: 55
      Quote: Radikal
      Shilova agreed to take part in a radio game that lasted almost until the end of the war

      Радиоthe game lasted until April 1945, when the Center stopped responding to "agent" messages. But the game itself continued until the execution of the saboteurs in 1951, because [presumably] the authorities hoped that the former allies would be interested in such a "sweet" version of ready-made agents in Moscow.
  5. +8
    6 October 2020 18: 37
    It all began in the mid-30s of the last century, when the aircraft building boom began. Army commanders around the world have realized the benefits of moving troops quickly over long distances with appropriate aircraft
    It all began in the early 20s, when the British military realized the benefits of moving troops using the appropriate aircraft, especially given the territory of the British Empire.
    Therefore, in 1921, the first specialized transport aircraft, Vickers Vernon, appeared.

    The plane accommodated 11 people and had a range of 510 km.
    And in 1923, Vickers Vernon of the 45th and 70th RAF Squadrons airlifted nearly 500 troops to Kirkuk, Iraq, after the city was captured by the Kurds. This was the first strategic airlift.
    1. +5
      6 October 2020 18: 48
      Of course, it does not reach the Me 323 - another weight category, but the layout played a role. At one time, I had a chance to look through the album of the silhouettes of the planes of a potential enemy in the 1950s, since there was a similar layout for both the Americans and the French. Unfortunately, the album is not at hand now, and memory omits the details ...
      1. +3
        6 October 2020 18: 52
        There is a 20-year difference between them. For that time - an era.
      2. +2
        6 October 2020 19: 05
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        an album of aircraft silhouettes of a potential enemy in the 1950s, since there was a similar layout for both the Americans and the French. Unfortunately, the album is not at hand now, and memory omits the details ...

        Just don't lie. In the 1940-60s, only the C-82 (and its successor C-119) and the Nord 2500 Noratlas were similar aircraft, but only when viewed in profile. In fact, the layout is completely different, fundamentally different from the "arado" from the article.
        1. +2
          6 October 2020 19: 24
          Well, what's my lie? You yourself have just listed three similar layouts.
          And note - I was not talking about complete similarity. I was browsing album of silhouettes.
          I found a book cover on the Internet:
          1. +1
            6 October 2020 19: 43
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Well, what's my lie? You yourself have just listed three similar layouts.

            In everything. The layouts, I repeat, are not alike, they differ radically: "Arado" is not a two-boom aircraft. The airplanes I listed are no more like him than dolphins are like a shark.
          2. +3
            6 October 2020 19: 55
            PS /
            And, if you look closely at this book (widely known since the 1980s), you can clearly see that these aircraft are completely different.


            1. +4
              6 October 2020 19: 59
              You are right here. I do not argue. But I also wrote that the memory is not the same. So we apologize.
              1. +3
                6 October 2020 20: 15
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                You are right here. I do not argue. But I also wrote that the memory is not the same. So we apologize.

                Nevermind.
              2. +2
                7 October 2020 00: 55
                Given the initial message and tone of your comment, you have been met with pedantry.
                How to misspelling a comment, like pretending to be "oh, oh, oh!" ...
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  7. +6
    6 October 2020 19: 09
    Two projects were submitted on time, that is, by the fall of 1939.
    There were at least three projects. And the most original one was from Gerhard Fieseler Werke - Fieseler Fi 333.

    The project involved an aircraft with removable specialized cargo cabins. Suspended cabins were developed in several types: for transporting passengers, for transporting troops, a container for fuel (it was envisaged to create, among other things, a tanker aircraft) or for transporting various goods. Such a concept was supposed to speed up the aircraft's speed on the ground, reduce the time spent at the airfield and speed up the delivery of cargo: loaded cockpits were to wait for the aircraft and all that remained was to fix them under the fuselage.
    For that time, the concept was too revolutionary and the project was not continued.
  8. -2
    6 October 2020 20: 58
    An interesting and original plane! How many of these Germans have not thought of ... But our Victory all the same crossed out these Nazi show off!
    1. -3
      6 October 2020 22: 33
      But our Victory all the same crossed out these Nazi show off!
      The absence of "show off", similar to the German ones, was compensated by the additional number of soldiers' graves, orphans, widows and other losses.
      Therefore, the USSR copied these "show off" after the Victory for many more years. But for turbopatriots, this is beyond comprehension.
      1. +1
        7 October 2020 12: 41
        Quote: Undecim
        The absence of "show off", similar to the German ones, was compensated by the additional number of soldiers' graves, orphans, widows and other losses.

        It would be nice to give a "formula" here. Otherwise, a counter question arises: how many graves were produced by those wunderwafli that the Germans could not release in the necessary and sufficient quantities? Just by virtue of the technical complexity, "show off". On the topic of the article - could it be that 22 aircraft with a carrying capacity of 2 tons (albeit with unique a / c characteristics) could have made the weather? And yes, but when did the Germans stop releasing "Aunt Yu", which, it seems, was supposed to be replaced by the Ar-232?
        1. -2
          7 October 2020 12: 47
          Here, as it were, the "formula" would be nice to give
          So give me what's stopping you?
  9. 0
    6 October 2020 22: 22
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Well, what's my lie? You yourself have just listed three similar layouts.
    And note - I was not talking about complete similarity. I was browsing album of silhouettes.
    I found a book cover on the Internet:

    Precisely found on the Internet, or maybe you got lost for ...? In the attic of the cottage. wink hi
    1. 0
      7 October 2020 06: 27
      Quote: Radikal

      Precisely found on the Internet, or maybe you got lost for ...? In the attic of the cottage. wink hi

      It is on the Internet in its entirety.
  10. -2
    7 October 2020 00: 36
    Reading such articles, you understand how much the Germans were superior in the technical level to the Soviet Union. And even more admire the ancestors who were able to break this enemy machine
    1. -2
      13 October 2020 00: 31
      Found something to admire, ours paid 42 million lives for it.
  11. -2
    7 October 2020 08: 36
    so that's where the AN-14 bee came from!
    1. +1
      7 October 2020 10: 43
      Not even near at all.
      Why write such deliberate nonsense?
      Wouldn't you be bored anyway ...
      1. 0
        7 October 2020 10: 45
        it was a joke. But you must admit that the layout of both machines has a lot in common.
        1. 0
          7 October 2020 15: 01
          Quote: yehat2
          the layout of both machines has a lot in common.

          No more than Bf 109 and LaGG. Even less.
          "Arado" cantilever, An-14 - strut-braced. The chassis of the "Arado" is retracted into the engine nacelles, while for the An-14 it is not retracted at all and is attached to the fuselage. The "Arado" has a tail attached to the gondola, while the An-14 has a full-fledged fuselage (albeit narrowed) to the very tail.
  12. +3
    7 October 2020 09: 21
    For takeoffs and landings from normal airfields, the aircraft had a conventional tricycle landing gear with a nose wheel.
    For the 30s, the tricycle chassis was unusual in itself. How many of them were there then?
    1. +1
      7 October 2020 15: 07
      Quote: sivuch
      For takeoffs and landings from normal airfields, the aircraft had a conventional tricycle landing gear with a nose wheel.
      For the 30s, the tricycle chassis was unusual in itself. How many of them were there then?

      Oh, it's true. :) Now Rommie will take revenge on you - at least delete your posting.
  13. 0
    7 October 2020 16: 40
    another creative of the "dark genius" ...
  14. 0
    9 October 2020 01: 33
    Thanks to the author, surprised)
  15. 0
    9 October 2020 12: 58
    The C-82 Packet was an outstanding transport aircraft.


    Its further development of the C-119 Flying Boxcar and the C-120 Packplane led to the well-known Fairchild C-123 Provider scheme with a rear lifting ramp - which became an example for everyone to follow (for example, in the An-8).


    And the Arado scheme was not used anywhere else, just as a multi-wheeled chassis of this type did not find constant use.
  16. 0
    9 October 2020 13: 12
    Ar.232b had one very significant drawback - a very narrow tail boom with a circular cross-section, it was subject to transverse, longitudinal, and torsional vibrations.
    Such a power scheme for attaching the tail assembly is read as erroneous, since it does not provide strength and low weight of the structure.

    Much more durable and advantageous in terms of weight perfection, turned out to be the C-82 scheme (two-girder two-keel-closed power unit from developed engine nacelles)
  17. +1
    9 October 2020 13: 24


    Here's the Fairchild XC-120 - it had a claim to modularity.
    This is a really original idea for that time.
  18. 0
    12 October 2020 19: 30
    Roman, tell me, did this plane take part in sending saboteurs to Kazakhstan? And in general, it would be very interesting to hear your opinion about that murky story.
  19. 0
    13 October 2020 00: 30
    They also had flying boats for throwing saboteurs into our deep rear for sabotage on the railways. But one of our cars was knocked out from an ambush, mortally wounding the pilot, and he did not fly far.
  20. 0
    13 October 2020 10: 18
    Quote: ua1osm
    Found something to admire, ours paid 42 million lives for it.

    You have problems reading comprehension.
  21. 0
    17 October 2020 19: 07
    I'm not an expert in transport aviation of the Third Reich, but an insert about a motorcycle, Panzerknakke, etc. leads to the idea that about the plane can be all the stuff of some kind of garbage.
  22. 0
    21 October 2020 08: 44
    Several years ago, I went to an abandoned tract to dig in the old days, for some reason I began to come across a lot of duralumin sheathing from the plane. Strangely I thought, the locals had torn up some kind of plane nearby? On a large stone lay a mechanism of many nickel-plated levers. In short, I later found out from the locals that it was a German plane, namely "Arado", which was delivered by Shilov-Tavrin. The trim is gray.
    The landing site is located between two villages, as a local resident could have shown.
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      22 October 2020 23: 32
      The meaning of my post .. There is a photo of AR-232, .. when the crew of the plane scattered into three groups, they buried a lot of secret things along the way in the forest. Some of the team were taken prisoner, while others were killed. There you have to look (what they managed to bury), any evidence of those events. The results of this famous operation by the NKVD will be confirmed. The places there are quiet.

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