Water cannons used against protesters in Belarus, Tihanovskaya is going to visit Merkel

Armored vehicles were seen not far from the residence of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko in Minsk. At the same time, the State Flag Square in the area of ​​the Palace of Independence has been cordoned off by a double ring of law enforcement officers and the military since the morning.

In addition to army equipment, trucks with barbed wire appeared on the square.

To disperse the protesters, the Belarusian security forces used water cannons against the protesters. It happened near the Sports Palace on Pobediteley Avenue. The footage published by the Belarusian edition of Tut.by shows how the jet of the water cannon was first directed at a public transport stop, and then at the gathered crowd. Fleeing from the pressure of water, people began to run away. After that, the Belarusian police began mass arrests of the protesters.

Personnel of a resource controlled by Poland:

Protest actions in Minsk and other cities of Belarus began on August 9. The demonstrators disagree with the official data of the presidential elections, according to which the incumbent head of state, Alexander Lukashenko, won. The protesters claim the results were falsified. In addition, they oppose human rights violations in Belarus, as well as the abuse of power by the security forces in the course of dispersing demonstrations and arresting participants.

Today it became known that Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, who lost the elections, is going to visit Germany on October 6 and meet with Angela Merkel. Merkel confirmed her readiness to meet with Tikhanovskaya, saying that she admires women who protest for justice. But for some reason, Merkel does not admire women who come out to protest for justice in Berlin. These women are twisted by the German police and sprayed with tear gas, which the Bundescanzlerin apparently does not particularly regret.

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[Alien From]

Tikhanovskaya, until he collects all the infection from Europe and the mattress does not stop)

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Alien From

Tikhanovskaya, until he collects all the infection from Europe and the mattress does not stop)

Let her gynecologist have a headache about it.

[Alien From]

Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye))

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

This is the true face of a traitor who is trying to do everything to harm her country and people.

[SRC P-15]

Merkel confirmed her readiness to meet with Tikhanovskaya

Will the meeting be like with Navalny, at the Charite clinic? Quite a suitable place for Tikhanovskaya.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

A couple of months more will ride around Europe, like a kind of miracle, and then everyone will forget about it.

[venik]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Will the meeting be like with Navalny, at the Charite clinic? Quite a suitable place for Tikhanovskaya.

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I wonder if there is a psychiatric ward at the Charité? It would be just for "svetochka" and for "angela" !!!

[solzh]

Quote: venik

I wonder if there is a psychiatric ward at the Charité?

Yeah, there is.
The Clinic for Psychiatry and Psychotherapy at the Charité Clinic is located on the Campus Charité Mitte (abbreviated CCM).
The head of the Charite Clinic of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy is Doctor of Medicine, Professor Andreas Heinz (Prof. Dr. Andreas Heinz).
http://eurodoctor.ru/charite/chariteclinicofpsychiatryandpsychotherapy/

[hydrox]

There is no trust in Sharitan medicine figures: they are politicized and corrupt there, so even a diote can be given a certificate with an IQ of 150

[solzh]

Quote: SRC P-15

Will the meeting be like with Navalny, at the Charite clinic?

No, like in hell with Mazepa

[fruc]

After meeting the oldest and the youngest, we will again listen to verbal diarrhea.

[solzh]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

This is the true face of a traitor who is trying to do everything to harm her country and people.

The true face of the pro-Western enemy of the people.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Oh, these liberal pro-Westerners, like cultists of totalitarian sects.

[Disorder]

Quote: Senka Mad

Let her gynecologist have a headache about it.

She hasn't met der Leyen yet.

[hydrox]

According to the observations of dog handlers, an ordinary garbage dog, before entering a gang of stray dogs, searches for various strongly odorous shit and bitch for several days, as it should roll around in all this, and then all of himself in such "French flavors" appears in thieves society. It is not obvious that the dog will be accepted into this gangster community, but at least they will not be torn apart right away, and there it will already be possible for her to swim and take on a doggy appearance - over time, maybe even the head teacher-wife of the leader will like it and become a camera lady ...

[begemot20091]

the one with the macron grater, and this one needs to be given an audience with Lyosha anal when he is solid

[Olgovich]

Quote: Alien From

Tikhanovskaya, until he collects all the infection from Europe and the mattress does not stop)

Judging by the footage, I have already collected it: the scoundrels rush into cars on the roadway, waving female used pads, yelling, scaring normal people.

The new Prosecutor General of Belarus, approved by the Parliament the day before yesterday, would have started working faster, he said: "EVERY participant in an illegal action should know: this is an administrative punishment, at least", "All losses of housing and communal services, transport are accumulated, counted and the guilty will pay."

It is necessary to apply the LAW in full, without equivocation.

Shame on the Western trivials, inciting the protestors, grossly interfering in the internal affairs of Belarus, and SILENT about the same actions in Bulgaria against HIS THIEVES in power

[Alien From]

It's hard to disagree with you!

[Terenin]

Quote: Olgovich

Shame on the Western trivials, inciting the protestors, grossly interfering in the internal affairs of Belarus, and SILENT about the same actions in Bulgaria against HIS THIEVES in power

And ... silence from our super-active Bulgarian colleagues in the forum. We see nothing, we hear nothing ...

[vasek5533]

What's boring to put each other plus signs? )) What do you want to hear? Everybody said everything. Even in this article, they wrote the truth this time "The protesters claim that the results were falsified. In addition, they oppose violations of human rights in Belarus, as well as the abuse of power by the security forces during the dispersal of demonstrations and detention of participants." What has changed in two months for the protests to end?

Other videos "resource controlled by Poland" you are not shown, just in case, and you yourself will not watch, tk. the massiveness of performances does not fit into the painted picture of the world. By the way, the very fact of the caption to the video ... so to speak, do not believe your eyes, everything you see is not true, since the resource is from Poland - do they really take you for idiots) What's the difference, whose resource if it shows a video, watch these videos on other resources, frames from this will not change.

So far, there has been an increase in anti-Russian sentiments, due to the fact that you have bet on the wrong one. Soon, I think, anti-Russian slogans will appear, here you will add each other)

Well, and reading insults of a woman, for whom at least half of the country voted, is simply disgusting.

[Terenin]

Quote: vasek5533

While there is an increase in anti-Russian sentiment

You have been observing it since the time of Ivan the Terrible and still will not grow up.

Quote: vasek5533

for which at least half of the country voted

yes, that there is half the country, take higher, all of Europe with America

Quote: vasek5533

not on that you bet.

so this is due to the fact that it is Tikhanovskaya who behaves, "beloved"

Quote: vasek5533

just disgusting.

By the way, thanks for the answer, I will not minis you

[demos1111]

Write nonsense, do not believe it. Return the security forces reserve to the border and wait. And the white-red-white flag itself is anti-Russian (police).
People have forgotten what a civil war is. Ukrainians do not teach them anything.
There is not a single person in their council, even if they are neutral towards Russia. All enemies.
So, remember everyone at the rallies, everyone must answer.

[Victorio]

Quote: vasek5533

watch these videos on other resources, frames from this will not change.

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for me it changes, the amount is less. I think there are those who are on the Western feed, the Nazis, but inadequate.

Quote: vasek5533

Well, read the insults of a woman who voted for at least

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taken from the ceiling, or some Wishlist

[vasek5533]

The numbers in the public domain, like the photos of the official protocols, everything is calculated and compared, the mathematics cannot be fooled. Whoever wanted to checked everything himself. To whom it was explained here that thousands are going out for Polish money, he will not understand.

[Victorio]

Quote: vasek5533

The numbers in the public domain, like the photos of the official protocols, everything is calculated and compared, the mathematics cannot be fooled.

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Quote: vasek5533

To whom did they explain

they "explained" to you firmly. who calculated the amount of work and figures? How many people do you work in the cic? How was the access to the newsletters obtained? stolen, passed on, by whom, can we believe it?

[vasek5533]

The CEC does not count ballots, they are counted at the polling station. The CEC counts the votes according to the protocols that were sent from these polling stations. These official protocols, by law, are posted at the polling stations, anyone can see and photograph them. Photos of these protocols were collected and the votes were counted. You don't even know about it, but you are sure who won.

[Victorio]

[quote = vasek5533] The CEC does not count ballots, they are counted at the polling station. The CEC counts the votes according to the protocols that were sent from these polling stations. These official protocols, by law, are posted at the polling stations, anyone can see and photograph them. Photos of these protocols were collected and the votes were counted. You don't even know about it, but we are sure who won. [/ Quote]
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-? go to court, with a photo of violations and the number of counting
- ) it is you sure, who has won.

[vasek5533]

Do you think such fools have not guessed that it is necessary to go to court, and not to shout in the media. All candidates submitted. The court's decision - since the decision on the recognition of the elections is taken by the CEC, then complaints about the invalidity of the elections are not subject to consideration in court, since such requirements do not fall within the competence of the court. cool, huh?
Whatever I tell you how it all happened does not mean anything, you do not believe the eyewitnesses of the events. At least I can cite facts why Lukashenka lost (well, to be honest, in fact the question is: did Tikhanovskaya get more than 50% or a little less, then Lukashenka with 30% would get into the second round). Well, you simply do not have any facts, except for the figures from the ceiling, announced after the elections. So think for yourself.

[Victorio]

Quote: vasek5533

Do you think such fools have not guessed that it is necessary to go to court, and not to shout in the media. All candidates submitted. The court's decision - since the decision on the recognition of the elections is taken by the CEC, then complaints about the invalidity of the elections are not subject to consideration in court, since such requirements do not fall within the competence of the court. cool, huh?
Whatever I tell you how it all happened does not mean anything, you do not believe the eyewitnesses of the events. I can at least give facts why Lukashenka lost (well, to be honest, in fact, the question is: whether Tikhanovskaya gained more than 50% or a little less, then Lukashenka with 30% would have got into the second round). Well, you simply do not have any facts, except for the figures from the ceiling, announced after the elections. So think for yourself.

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Well, yes, you wrote that the overall majority is for Tikhanovskaya, then everything is 70-80 ?! ).
and about “thinking,” I will write the following: for whatever reason, you can vote against Lukashenka, but you have to be absolutely inadequate to vote for Madame - a puppet.

[vasek5533]

You are confusing Lukashenka's shouts of 80% with what I wrote) Your conclusions about inadequacy are based on false initial data, that's all. For example, how can you vote for a person whose program is banning the Russian language, closing factories, joining NATO, etc. Naturally, Tikhanovskaya lost with such a program, it's obvious. So think about who inspired you that she has such a program and why you are being told this.
Sincerely believing in Lukashenka's victory, saying that you are defending the Belarusian people, you will get anti-Russian sentiments from the majority of the population. And everyone knows who needs it. And all due to the fact that they confused who won)

[Victorio]

Quote: vasek5533

So think about who inspired you that she has such a program and why you are being told this.

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Tihanovskaya is a puppet, isn't it obvious ?! this lady is not even worthy of discussion. write and criticize it better than Lukashenka, because there is a reason, and from all sides)

[the lord]

Do you really believe that half of the country voted for it? For a stupid donkey of duck stories against the man who saved the economy for you? Do you seriously think that the Belarusians have become so stupid that they decided to put the cook, who had never learned to rule the state during the world crisis, at the head of their country?
Are you tired of working in factories and have you decided to live in unemployed status? But privatization is, first of all, job cuts, and then also diversification of production with the loss of markets. Bored of the high proportion of budget student places? Did you want to pay a lot of money for education? Are you tired of preserved arable land and developed agriculture? Did you miss the gullies instead of farmland?
Well, grow anti-Russian sentiments further, there will be a reason to help your security officials without a twinge of conscience. Beating Poles and their podlyashek is an old Russian pastime.

[Victorio]

Quote: znavel

Do you really believe that half of the country voted for it? For a stupid donkey of duck stories against the man who saved the economy for you? Do you seriously think that the Belarusians have become so stupid that they decided to put the cook, who had never learned to rule the state during the world crisis, at the head of their country?
Are you tired of working in factories and have you decided to live in unemployed status? But privatization is, first of all, job cuts, and then also diversification of production with the loss of markets. Bored of the high proportion of budget student places? Did you want to pay a lot of money for education? Are you tired of preserved arable land and developed agriculture? Did you miss the gullies instead of farmland?
Well, grow anti-Russian sentiments further, there will be a reason to help your security officials without a twinge of conscience. Beating Poles and their podlyashek is an old Russian pastime.

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but they themselves do not believe. throw off Lukashenka and his associates, take vacant seats and make money, get visa-free and association with the EU, so that those who are dissatisfied with the new government can dump there in search of food

[solzh]

Quote: Alien From

Tikhanovskaya, until he collects all the infection from Europe and the mattress does not stop)

Her puppeteers do not want to stop. Tikhanovskaya will run abroad until her retirement

[tihonmarine]

Today it became known that Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, who lost the elections, is going to visit Germany on October 6 and meet with Angela Merkel.

Grandmother fell deeply, she was already down to the cook. And by the way, today is the 30th anniversary of the betrayal of the GDR.

[Alien From]

You noticed it correctly), began to be forgotten ..

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

Grandma fell low, she sank down to the cook

And how is this cook worse than Khodorkovsky, Navalny?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

And how is this cook worse than Khodorkovsky, Navalny?

Yes, in principle, nothing, in one incubator removed.

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, in principle, nothing, in one incubator removed.

Then why be surprised?

[Tusv]

Quote: svp67

And how is this cook worse than Khodorkovsky, Navalny?

Sergei. There is no need to ascribe to Tikhanova the skills of a cook. As a cook, she is at least obliged to feed tasty and satisfying food, and not hang noodles on her ears. Alas, you will never be full from those noodles. And as a rule, a good cook has more faith than politics

[Tusv]

Well, in general, no politician will let go of a good cook. We need ourselves

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tusv

And as a rule, a good cook has more faith than politics

But when a cook becomes a politician, it is worse than a politician, and she has no faith at all.

[Incvizitor]

To the anal dropped.

[newcomer]

No, they could not harness Belarus into a fireball around the Russian Federation and thank God. Merkel, on the other hand, has completely shrunk against the backdrop of Macron's eternal rival.

[Terenin]

Quote: newbie

Merkel, on the other hand, has completely shrunk, against the background of the eternal rival of Macron

What kind of macro measurementsand measure-crown tehan before your eyes

[Sergey_G_M]

It used to be fashionable to go to England, now to Germany. Something England is sharply losing its position on gathering oppositionists.
Ahhh, so they (Tikhonovskaya, Navalny) are not billionaires! then it is understandable why they were not invited to England!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

It used to be fashionable to go to England, now to Germany.

England only accepts the rich, not the poor. "There is money, you are Vasya Nosov, there is no money ... Leshik."

[Russian Bear_2]

Lyosha probably has money for England.

[Severok]

Here's what's interesting, and how many women politicians have their children ??? Women who are childless should not be allowed close to leading positions, for those who have not known motherhood are not ways to preserve and create.

[abrakadabre]

Women who are childless should not be allowed close to leading positions, for those who have not known motherhood are not ways to preserve and create.

Are you proposing to establish an appropriate qualification? For men, this is military service, for women, births 1-2, and preferably three children.
Interesting ...

[Andobor]

So it is necessary to slow down the horses - it's high time.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Andobor

So it is necessary to slow down the horses - for a long time

I noticed, solid young growth

[Sergey_G_M]

So all sorts of ultras are going forward.
Most of the demonstrators are like this:
https://vk.com/ruslankarmanov?z=video-197487820_456239285%2Fcc4d0fc6faae79ce6b%2Fpl_wall_288925483
The girls in the Polish cart were not told where to go and they were confused and the revolutionary enthusiasm went somewhere

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sergey_G_M

So all sorts of ultras are going forward.

Yes, there is no one there in the middle not behind. A young man runs around the square and kicks the car

[solzh]

Quote: Lipchanin

Youngsters run around the square and kick the car

Ordinary hooliganism, not oppositionists

[Alex Justice]

Youngsters run around the square and kick the car

... that washes the street.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

I noticed, solid young growth

Youngsters are greedy for a dollar.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Youngsters are greedy for a dollar.

And show your folly.
Here they say I'm what, I'm afraid of cops.
They don't care about elections. Anyone boil so that they can boast in front of their friends

[Incvizitor]

Youngsters nowadays are stupid, greedy and corrupt, they do not have enough proper patriotic education.
Such people just thump from boredom on the gateways of the master and jump in the squares, skins.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Andobor

So it is necessary to slow down the horses - it's high time.

The water cannon is somehow weak. A normal person should fall down.

[Terenin]

Quote: Piramidon

The water cannon is somehow weak.

Yes, strengthen it - laxative powders ... but not a beginner

[petrol cutter]

" dispersal of demonstrations and detentions of participants. "
The demonstrators ought to be "accepted" and sent - someone to stand at the machines (I'm afraid many there won't have enough qualifications), then hand out the shovels, and send under escort - to dig out potatoes in the fields. Moreover, all.
There will be at least some benefit.

[fruc]

They were not taught this. They have bubble-gum on their minds and debility in their ears.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Petrol cutter

The protesters claim the results were falsified.

It also surprises me, well, how can a common man in the street know what the election results are.

[solzh]

Quote: tihonmarine

how can a common man know what the election results are

For them, everything is simple and obvious:
a) Because it cannot be otherwise. The people of Belarus cannot vote for Lukashenko. Though you crack, it cannot be.
b) Polish and European telegram channels and the media claim so, but Poland and the EU will not lie

[tihonmarine]

Quote: solzh

Because it cannot be otherwise. The people of Belarus cannot vote for Lukashenko. Though you crack, it cannot be.

It is true that the owners have hammered them into their heads, and they will speak and shout. They cannot think with their minds.

[Terrible GMO]

Armored vehicles were spotted in Minsk.

She's been there for a long time. Every Sunday and Saturday, including days before and after elections. Most often, a lot of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
Helicopters are also allowed over the city, and this is not MI-2/8.

At the same time, the State Flag Square in the area of ​​the Palace of Independence has been cordoned off by a double ring of law enforcement officers and the military since the morning.

The "Palace of Independence", the stele and several other places are cordoned off all the time these days, with connections. The usual streets are constantly blocked with thorns.

In addition to army equipment, trucks with barbed wire appeared on the square.

Every week they bring them and not only to Minsk.

Belarusian security forces used water cannons against protesters to disperse them

Again, roll out every week. Usually used in Minsk, Brest. Where there is a shortage of water cannons, fire trucks are requisitioned (as in Lida on election day).

After that, the Belarusian police began mass arrests of the protesters.

Mass beatings. One more thing.
The other day on Akrestsin Street, another person was crippled, he died in the hospital from his injuries. Broken ribs from 2 to 12, bilateral hematomas on the head, shoulders and other injuries.
According to "law enforcement officers" fell from the second tier of the bed.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Mass beatings. One more thing.
The other day on Akrestsin Street, another person was crippled, he died in the hospital from his injuries. Broken ribs from 2 to 12, bilateral hematomas on the head, shoulders and other injuries.

Here's how you want. I am not delighted with cops in any country, but I have never seen them just like that, for no reason, rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row.
Well, I have not seen But how they are provoked I saw more than once
I will never forget how "Berkut" was beaten and burned

[Deck]

not for no reason rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row

Mainly for money and apartments, but there are also "enthusiasts" in their field, like the "pearl ensign" in St. Petersburg

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Deck

Mainly for money and apartments

I have not seen this.
They usually stand behind their shields. And only after professional provocateurs brought them to the "white heat", that's when it began
And yet, not one cop will never raise a club without a command

[Deck]

The commands and the psychological treatment are done by others, and you will have to pay the bills with these:

I will never forget how "Berkut" was beaten and burned

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

But I have never seen them just like that, for no reason, rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row.

Well, if you ask well, then they will finish. You will pass in silence, and they will also pass.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: TerribleGMO

Mass beatings. One more thing.
The other day on Akrestsin Street, another person was crippled, he died in the hospital from his injuries. Broken ribs from 2 to 12, bilateral hematomas on the head, shoulders and other injuries.

Here's how you want. I am not delighted with cops in any country, but I have never seen them just like that, for no reason, rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row.
Well, I have not seen But how they are provoked I saw more than once
I will never forget how "Berkut" was beaten and burned

Yes, you sho ?! You really lived in Russia this spring ?! Where even now, for without a mask, you will be handcuffed in the subway and beaten ?!

[nnm]

What kind of nonsense are you writing?

Quote: Corona without virus

Where even now, for without a mask, you will be handcuffed in the subway and beaten ?!

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nnm

What kind of nonsense are you writing?

Quote: Corona without virus

Where even now, for without a mask, you will be handcuffed in the subway and beaten ?!

Maybe for the ZAMKADya - this is the bullshit ... and for the Muskwiches - the harsh current truth of life

[nnm]

Oh, well, I'll know. Apparently, on Friday I rode some kind of personal subway. Yes, again more people began to ride in masks again (60 percent), but no punitive measures are applied. Including at the entrance to the station (once a week at the entrance they asked to wear it, but they let it through anyway). There were no handcuffs either in spring or summer. They were simply not allowed without masks and gloves at the station.
Therefore, if you please rave elsewhere.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nnm

Oh, well, I'll know. Apparently, on Friday I rode some kind of personal subway. Yes, again more people began to ride in masks again (60 percent), but no punitive measures are applied. Including at the entrance to the station (once a week at the entrance they asked to wear it, but they let it through anyway). There were no handcuffs either in spring or summer. They were simply not allowed without masks and gloves at the station.
Therefore, if you please rave elsewhere.

I understand when I, a Muskvich, get minus for posts on the topic of life in Russia (although I have traveled far and wide across the entire European part of Russia) ... But when I talk about what I see every day in Moscow - there’s why minus me? !!! Or "really hurts your eyes" ?!

[nnm]

Maybe the whole point is just that you should try to lie less and pretend not to understand who? Try it, I am sure that the result will please you

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nnm

Maybe the whole point is just that you should try to lie less and pretend not to understand who? Try it, I am sure that the result will please you

We bet for a million rubles with everyone that I live in the suburbs ?! the last 2 years ... and before that he lived in Moscow for 32 years?

[nnm]

Do you think that I meant your lies regarding the place of residence? Here, in general, it does not matter where you stay ...
Just stop lying about what you write. For you do it so selflessly and constantly that sometimes it simply reaches the extreme degree of absurdity.
By the way, so you are about yourself ...

Maybe for the ZAMKADya - this is the bullshit ...

Best regards, colleague!

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nnm

Do you think that I meant your lies regarding the place of residence? Here, in general, it does not matter where you stay ...
Just stop lying about what you write. For you do it so selflessly and constantly that sometimes it simply reaches the extreme degree of absurdity.
By the way, so you are about yourself ...

Maybe for the ZAMKADya - this is the bullshit ...

Best regards, colleague!

The question is rhetorical - you don't have to answer, colleague
That is why it so happened ... that the Zaputins live in some kind of their own Russia, where everything is karasho, and I, day after day, live in another Russia ?!

[nnm]

It is very interesting how you determine who is for Putin and who is not? That is, if I, who rode the metro almost every evening during even the entire coronavirus, tell you that you are lying when you are just stupid and brazen about handcuffs and arrests in the metro, then this somehow testifies to my political views ?

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: nnm

It is very interesting how you determine who is for Putin and who is not? That is, if I, who rode the metro almost every evening during even the entire coronavirus, tell you that you are lying when you are just stupid and brazen about handcuffs and arrests in the metro, then this somehow testifies to my political views ?

Yes, I am RESPONSIBLE I declare that during the period of the "coronavirus" from my village near Moscow to Moscow (35 km) without a digital pass, neither by buses, nor by minibus, even by taxi it was IMPOSSIBLE to get there !!! Not to mention the fact that turnstiles in the Moscow metro were allowed only with cards that had been registered in advance using digital passes ...

... or are you not a maskwich ?! and hang up here for all of us "noodles" ?!

[nnm]

How fast is your initial

Where even now, for without a mask, you will be handcuffed in the subway and beaten ?! laughing

turned into:

Quote: Corona without virus

turnstiles in the Moscow metro were allowed only with cards that had been registered in advance using digital passes ...

And two questions arise:
1. Why did you deliberately lie in the first place?
2. That is, if you lied on one issue, did you lie on many other issues as well?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Corona without virus

That is why it so happened ... that the Zaputins live in some kind of their own Russia, where everything is karasho, and I, day after day, live in another Russia ?!

If a certain guy is constantly yelling that he stinks of shit everywhere, it’s not because it really stinks, but because this type of face is constantly in shit.

However, in essence, he is telling the truth. After all, personally for him, in fact, wherever he is, everything always stinks of shit.

[Incvizitor]

I went to the concert that week without a mask on the subway, even at the concert no one demanded, maybe they beat it up in your parallel reality?

[solzh]

Quote: Crown without virus

Where even now, for without a mask, you will be handcuffed in the subway and beaten ?!

Are you definitely from Russia?

Quote: Crown without virus

Maybe for the ZAMKADya - this is the bullshit ... and for the Muskwiches - the harsh current truth of life

Strange ... Why, none of my acquaintances Muscovites were handcuffed or beaten ... They probably don't go there.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Corona without virus

Maybe for the ZAMKADya - this is the bullshit ... and for the Muskwiches - the harsh current truth of life

You, my dear, vile liar and provocateur.

[poquello]

Quote: Corona without virus

Yes, you sho ?! belay You definitely lived in Russia this spring ?! am Where even now, for without a mask, they will handcuff and beat you in the subway ?!

and if you give him in the face, they will also give him, disgrace)))))))))))))))))))))))))

[ender]

but I have never seen them just like that, not for no reason rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1312426043353989120/pu/vid/1280x720/x7JZXRUedFEwNX1y.mp4

[Terrible GMO]

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Quote: Lipchanin

But I have never seen them just like that, for no reason, rushed at people and massively beat everyone in a row.
Well, I haven't seen

And the Belarusians have seen. But what does it matter to ordinary Belarusians, we will not believe them. Let's not believe our eyes and hundreds, thousands of facts confirming this. It is the eternal and omnipotent West that builds intrigues and wants to tear off the negligent from their temporarily lost homeland.
We will believe the collective farmer who has gone mad with impunity and thirst for power. He swore an oath of eternal loyalty to Putin, he won't betray, right? Really, how many times did you swear? And when he sold weapons to the Arabs, and when Azerbaijan, and when he drove the sanctions, and when the Crimea recognized, and pays debts on time, and does not beg for another loan.

Quote: Deck

Mainly for money and apartments, but there are also "enthusiasts" in their field, like the "pearl ensign" in St. Petersburg

And for retirement at 45 We get a state apartment in Minsk, huge salaries and pensions by the standards of Belarus. And of course the opportunity to beat people with impunity, the holiday is real.

And from the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs who did not want to participate in this information that they were also zombified by the higher ranks very actively. How can you not kill people, break limbs?

[carstorm 11]

what would you like in Kiev? what would the Ministry of Internal Affairs catch flies, kill them and then destroy the whole country? in your opinion the essence of the siloviki is stupid to ignore everything that happens and stand chewing snot? I do not consider myself a lover of Lukashenka. moreover, I would not worry that he will disappear from his post. that's just your leaders are a cowardly woman running around Europe and a bunch of sheep that are torn to the trough. no more. and if you want to drag them into power, you are either very strange or just stupid. in the first year everything will be lost. approximately 40 percent of jobs are optimized instantly. if the position is against Moscow the markets are lost. What are you dreaming about? about the litvinization of which supporters of Tikhanovskaya openly declared? forward and with a song. fortunately, my relatives gradually moved to the Russian Federation these years. will not see this big top.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: carstorm 11

what would you like in Kiev?

Why Kiev at once? Why not Moscow of 91st? Why not Prague, where a non-legitimate government was removed without a single shot.

Quote: carstorm 11

what would the Ministry of Internal Affairs catch flies

For the Ministry of Internal Affairs to comply with the LAW, and not the whim of one person.

Quote: carstorm 11

and then the whole country was destroyed?

Elections don't ruin countries. If you do not hold onto the chair with blue fingers.

Quote: carstorm 11

I do not consider myself a lover of Lukashenka

And I have a completely opposite opinion.

Quote: carstorm 11

that's just your leaders

There are no leaders, there are people. And those who could become them have been in jail for a long time without trial or investigation. Since June.

Quote: carstorm 11

and a bunch of sheep that are torn to the trough.

The main rams are already sitting at the trough. The feeder, however, is wayward, sometimes it dares to kick and does not want to issue a loan. A billion here, a billion there. Russian citizens will not lose

In general, do whatever you want. There will no longer be such a good-neighborly attitude towards Russians as closest comrades. The "brothers" did their best with the support of the "loyal ally". Then, of course, write that the West has torn away the oaths from the Rossiyushka, but this will no longer make any difference.

[carstorm 11]

that would not answer all this I will simply say that all my relatives live in Gomel and Minsk. mother and her three sisters and brother were born in Besedi if you know what kind of village it is. father, grandfather and uncle are buried there. so I don’t need to screw this children's political canoe about what’s there and from whom I tore it off.

[Dart2027]

Quote: TerribleGMO

And the Belarusians have seen. But what does it matter to ordinary Belarusians, we will not believe them.

Are they the kids?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Belarusian security forces used water cannons against protesters to disperse them

Again, roll out every week. Usually used in Minsk, Brest. Where there is a shortage of water cannons, fire trucks are requisitioned (as in Lida on election day).

And if there is a strong fire, and there is no reserve of fire trucks, although it is clear that the authorities have a priority, the water cannons also break down.

[Incvizitor]

They are trying to burn the whole country.

[Dart2027]

Quote: TerribleGMO

One of these days another person was crippled at Akrestsin Street

What was this man doing there? Throwing at a policeman with a stick?

[vasek5533]

It doesn't matter. Throwing, then it is necessary to arrest, judge and imprison. And he was beaten and he died. They were beaten not at a rally, again, but after the arrest. And best of all, they said that he fell out of bed. You can continue to pull the owl on the globe, trying to justify it.

[Dart2027]

Quote: vasek5533

They were beaten not at a rally, again, but after the arrest.

How is it known, there are witnesses, medical report, video recording or what?

[vasek5533]

Everything is. And videos from neighboring houses, and sound recordings and medical reports. 450 documented cases of another 2000 complaints to the prosecutor's office - 0 criminal cases against the security forces. Or just thinks people go out for two months for one hundred thousand ... well, they tell you here that these are children paid for from Poland, in the amount of 200 people, but the reality is different.

[Dart2027]

Quote: vasek5533

Everything is.

Can you be more specific - where?

Quote: vasek5533

what are these youngsters paid for from Poland

Youngsters do not have to pay, they do not have a very good idea of ​​what they are doing here. The truth ends badly.

[Aviator_]

Calm down, troll. Are you working off Polish money?

[RVAPatriot]

And according to the reports of the same bai, he was detained after a routine. It's easy to pervert everything without saying everything!

[solzh]

Quote: TerribleGMO

Most often, a lot of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
Helicopters are also allowed over the city, and this is not MI-2/8.

Where are the tanks with artillery? Around the city?
Well damn you give

[Sergey_G_M]

Something in the video, I did not notice the dispersal of the demonstrators, in my opinion on the video a flock of wild Banderlog is attacking a police car, which is already drawing on the article.

[g_ae]

In general, today everything is somehow sluggish. Without a spark. Both sides are working on a mandatory program. They went out, knocked together, dispersed. What came out, one wonders? What did they want? Now they will move around the districts to drink tea, eat cakes and bawl songs. And then at midnight listen to their drunken cries under the windows "zhyvebelgus". Zadolbali, little bitches.

[Sergey_G_M]

And it's good that without a spark, it's time to calm down already.
With the onset of cold weather, the water cannons will turn into a super weapon, it will get colder and you will not have to overclock it - poured some water and disperse, dry, warm up.

[My doctor]

Quote: g_ae

... And then at midnight listen to their drunken cries under the windows "zhyvebelgus". Zadolbali, little bitches.

How things change And we remember, under the windows of the "Golden Baths" bawled, as if it was quite recently.

[g_ae]

Well, then they are normal people! And then the finished "Warriors of Light". With his foolishness (now it is called a civil position). There is a difference.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: g_ae

They went out, knocked together, dispersed. What came out, one wonders?

Money was expected, but the EU limit is over, the states have their own elections.

[likana]

It's time to force Belarus to join the Russian Federation, why is it worse, for example, Tatarstan? After all, the state-forming people are the same in two countries, AHLy himself says about this ...

[vitvit123]

Previously, Luka hindered the entry of Belarus into Russia in every possible way, vanity, ambition, lust for power ... in the light of recent events, Luka can probably be pushed through, but is it necessary for D. Vova now, that's a question ..

[vasek5533]

That's it, the train has left. Lukashenka resisted for 20 years, kept holding on to power. During this time, the support of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Belarus decreased from 60% to 30%, and after he lost the elections, and you supported him ... this is also one of the election results - there will be no unification.

[pexotinec]

I won't be surprised if her newbie is also trawled :))

[KVU-NSVD]

Compared to American and European accelerations, the top of humanism is straightforward - thorn fences and water cannons. PS How many young idlers are there.

[Kuzmitsky]

This is yes. The French police are more relaxed. And American too.

[Deck]

There, demonstrators are more relaxed. Not a single glass was broken in Minsk, not a single ballot box was turned over.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Kuzmitsky

This is yes. The French police are more relaxed. And American too.

Stop comparing with America. With their number of trunks in the hands of the population.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Observer2014

Stop comparing with America.

And with France?

[silverwolf88]

it's time to end with the Protestants ... applying the best European and American practices to suppress illegal performances ... enough of this circus ...

[abrakadabre]

applying the best European and American practices to suppress illegal performances ... this circus is enough ...

Better the latest Chinese developments. There is a lot to learn:
- a tough blockade of the meeting place without food, water and toilets;
- installation of mobile cellular jammers;
- Tracking outgoing calls from the territory to establish the registration data of subscribers;
- Simultaneous tracking of Internet traffic from the same numbers;
- combining (geo-positioning) video filming of instigators and activists with data from the mobile network. Especially if the activist hides his face.
And other modern methods. The Chinese comrades are very adept at this.

[vasek5533]

All this has been done for two months now, and on a larger scale than that of the Chinese comrades. Even add to your list. - to detain any group of people more than three people, not to allow gathering in a column or a large group.
When the dissatisfied minority, then everything is resolved quickly. And the Belarusian comrades have a lot of experience, in fact, this is not the first elections. But this is a matter of quantity. The experience of suppressing the majority on the streets, then and no, it is simply not brought the situation.

[ZEMCH]

But for some reason, Merkel does not admire women who come out to protest for justice in Berlin. These women are twisted by the German police and sprayed with tear gas, which the Bundescanzlerin apparently does not particularly regret.

This is the same "democratic" tear gas, it is approved for use against pregnant women and children)))
It's sarcasm!
I see a speck in someone else's eye, I don't notice in my log)))

[Operator]

The police and the KGB of the Republic of Bashkortostan are slowing down - it is high time to arrest all participants in the riots, sue them for several years and send them to the construction of the Dnieper-Don canal to transfer water to Crimea.

Waving shovels and transporting land in wheelbarrows in the fresh air using the technology of building the White Sea Canal is the most intelligible measure to sober up the extremists.

[karpusha]

All Russians say that Lukashenka lost and is now fighting with his own people.

[Operator]

In addition to being Russians, we are also citizens of the Union State

[Was mammoth]

Quote: karpusha

All Russians say that Lukashenka lost and is now fighting with his own people.

Quote: karpusha

However, she won.

However, she lost. Not miserably, but lost.
Check it out. You can, of course, question the conclusions of Vedomosti. They conducted their analysis using data from the opposition "Voice". But, he is more realistic tutbay.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/articles/2020/09/16/840201-golosov-tihanovskaya

[vasek5533]

Well that is the elections were rigged, after all, not 80% for Lukashenka. It seems that outside Belarus are beginning to understand what the essence of the protests is)

And for the rest (you don't have to read it, but suddenly), this is the message of "Voices"

- Vladimir Solovyov claims that Golos gave Lukashenka 61%
- Russian "Vedomosti" is doing its own analytics, allegedly based on data from "Golos" and say that Lukashenka could hardly gain an electoral majority, but perhaps he could gain 50,8%.
‼ ️ ALL THESE STATEMENTS ARE LIES‼ ️
Each of you can go to partizan-results.com and find protocols, ballots and discrepancies between them at specific polling stations.
All propaganda rhetoric exists for the sole purpose of distracting people from the fact that the election was rigged. And switch them to imitation of calculations, interest, doubts and thoughts "what if he really could win."

[Was mammoth]

Quote: vasek5533

"All propaganda rhetoric exists for the sole purpose of distracting people from the fact that the elections were rigged. And switch them to imitation of calculations, interest, doubts and thoughts" what if he really could win. "

"
Is there at least one country where the elections are fair? Well, in Belarus and Russia, by default, the address is included in the menu.
The problem is not counting. Discontent with Lukashenka’s actions is quite significant. There are reasons. Also "heating" from abroad. There is no reason to follow the lead of the opposition and call new elections. A reason for "working on yourself".
Have you read the response of the Foreign Ministries of "completely democratic" Poland and Lithuania regarding the reduction of the staff of their embassies? What is this if not rudeness? They "do not intend to cut ...". Provocation?
PS

Quote: vasek5533

Vladimir Soloviev ...

Yesterday he had an extraordinary program. On the unification of Germany with the screening of Kondrashov's documentary "The Wall". I advise you to look.

[solzh]

Quote: karpusha

All Russians say that Lukashenka lost and is now fighting with his own people.

You are not right.
1. Lukashenka won.
2. Lukashenka does not fight the people.
3. Russians worry not about Lukashenko, but about the people of Belarus, which you are pushing into the abyss.

[vasek5533]

1. Verbatim statement
2. He fights for his power, in order to achieve this goal he has to fight with the people, I still think that he himself is not happy about this.
3. I believe that you are worried about the people, but it is a mistake to support an anti-Russian politician who has lost the election.

[Incvizitor]

That is, the residents of the Republic of Belarus preferred the puppet housewife to the present? Do you think the majority of Belarusians are vegetables?

[vasek5533]

On the first question, yes. Why this is another question, but why do you need to understand, it is immediately clear that only vegetables could think so. Don't waste your time.

[Isotron 3-150]

People disassembled this water cannon

[businessv]

Today it became known that Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, who lost the elections, is going to visit Germany on October 6 and meet with Angela Merkel

Yeah, chat about yours, about girls. Lukashenka can't cut off the channels for the protesters? Or will they now begin to convince me that all the protesters are deceived by the daddy's hard workers, who go beyond their own money, not looking back at their hungry children? Then why are they being led from Poland? Why are they not being sued with a demand for a recount to remove the issue? Or are they afraid to get a real, not a virtual loss?

[karpusha]

Are you seriously? To sue the state in Belarus? Where are you from so fabulous? People collected complaints in the cycle - they immediately drove into the isolation ward. Count them say, but nothing that the ballots were all burned on the same day as the vote. Nobody even counted them, they drew the required number and that's it. That's why the people came out. Consider why you have a secret inauguration if you have 80% support. And where are the rallies of 80% supporting Lukashenka?

[japs]

What are you, Karpusha, are you talking about? There were "zmagars" in the queue to submit applications. Nobody "drove in" them to the isolation ward. The CEC even answered their complaints. Once - because the complaints were copied.
You probably saw with your own eyes how the ballots burn?
Let's have Karpusha, goodbye ... Sing us a song about "zhyvebeligus" ...

[karpusha]

Confused the complaints to the CEC with the complaints to the KGB. Here is the news
https://news.tut.by/society/694505.html
Well, you can still see it
https://news.tut.by/economics/692878.html
https://news.tut.by/economics/695540.html

[solzh]

Quote: japs

What are you, Karpusha, are you talking about?

Their job is to tell stories.

[nnm]

What the hell are you talking about again?
Can't Tikhanovskaya file a complaint against the CEC from abroad?
And how many times have they denied nonsense with burnt ballots ..
The feeling that you are simply retelling Polish nekhta

[karpusha]

Yes Yes. How was this refuted? Maybe they showed photos of the ballots? Or maybe at least 1-2 sites were counted. The country voted for Tikhanovskaya, and the old dictator simply decided to put power in his hands. Here is a video of how government workers. the plant was voted on by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNMcT4Ys5o and so on throughout the country for all segments of the population. How can this be explained? Where are those 80% from which they hid the inagrute and which are nowhere to be seen. 80% of the votes for Tikhanovskaya.

[businessv]

Quote: karpusha

Where are you from so fabulous? People collected complaints in the cycle - they immediately drove into the isolation ward. To recount say, but nothing that the ballots were all burned on the same day as the vote.

Real you are ours! Leave your tear tales for fake resources, such as rain, or nekhta! Here you have heard enough of those in the 13th! "I am also the daughter of an officer ... I lived in Crimea ... not everything is so simple ...!" As for the rallies in support of the current presidents, we have them, we also observed them in 13th, we know how it ended there, and we can hardly tolerate a repetition of this booth! Yes, even the "secret inauguration"! In Russian, this action is called swearing-in and does not apply to secret action in any way. Who should know, knew, others do not have to report.

[karpusha]

To the rest to report - to whom? Own people - are the rest apparently? They cordoned off the entire city center without giving any reason. They took a bunch of soldiers and riot police to the palace and held the inauguration in such an atmosphere (while breaking the law and not showing on TV). Why is Lukashenka hiding from his own people? He has 80% support. Where are the crowds of cheering people? All past years, the ceremony was broadcast on TV and took place in a festive atmosphere with invited citizens, and not quietly among the soldiers and riot police. President of the riot police.
Apparently you are writing from Russia?

[businessv]

Quote: karpusha

Apparently you are writing from Russia?

And you, apparently, are from Poland? Who writes from where is absolutely not important, it is important - about what! I am writing about another attempt at a "color revolution", in other words, about another coup in the next former republic of the Union, and you are trying to use the guidelines of the Washington Regional Committee to defend your position. Previously, the oath was held solemnly, now it will be so, apparently. A reaction is developed for each action, this is its consequence. Do you yourself understand what exactly is happening in Belarus? Or do you really think that a housewife can head the state and run it on her own ?! Or that she herself achieved a meeting with Merkel out of old friendship? What do you want yourself? Freedom? Democracy? Not full yet? It is not necessary to answer, I already heard you!

[vasek5533]

I can't understand why the protests don't subside, right? After all, everything is obvious, paid for at the rallies. Maybe it's something else?
And they filed a lawsuit, you know what decision? The elections were fair, because the Central Election Commission is in charge of the elections, and they did not report any violations there. And your 3000 documented facts in 50 folders have no time to read.

[Igor Litvin]

Quote: TerribleGMO

... Mass beatings. One more thing.
The other day on Akrestsin Street, another person was crippled, he died in the hospital from his injuries. Broken ribs from 2 to 12, bilateral hematomas on the head, shoulders and other injuries.
According to "law enforcement officers" fell from the second tier of the bed.

It is useless to explain this to Russians, they live in the categories of Rashitudey

[Aviator_]

It is useless to explain this to Russians, they live in the categories of Rashitudey

If it's useless, then why did you get out? It is strange that I have not forgotten the Russian language yet.

[japs]

You are right, it is also useless to explain anything to the Litvinians, they live in the categories of "Nehta" ...

[nnm]

How long has it been "onizhedeti" and so on.

[viber]

You shouldn't, you speak for all Russians .. there are just a lot of pro-government bots ... but in life they are completely different)

[solzh]

Quote: Igor Litvin

It is useless to explain this to Russians, they live in the categories of Rashitudey

Just one question: What are you doing here then?

[Viktor Sergeev]

We live in categories of reason. They hit a little, it is necessary harder, and instead of water cannons, rubber bullets and gas. It is necessary to act as in "democratic" countries.

[Rostislav]

Water cannons? And rightly so. We must take an example from enlightened Europe, as the White Maidans call. Macron is okay, right? Why can't Luka?
Or "What is allowed to Yuriter ..."

[Coconut]

And who is Tikhanovskaya ..? politician ..? ... the governor ..? .. the headmaster of the school in the end .. ?? ... no .. it’s an aunt who feel sorry for her husband .. I don’t mind ... but her presidency ???? !!! .. uzhos nah ..

[karpusha]

However, she won.

[nnm]

And why did you decide that?))))
Just don’t - "all my friends voted that way" or "everyone knows that"!

[karpusha]

At all polling stations where the commission did not succumb to persuasion and counted the votes honestly - everywhere Tikhanovskaya has 70-80% of the votes. Plus, the voice platform where people sent photos of ballots with their address and number also confirmed Tikhanovskaya's 80% victory. At our polling station, only 112 votes were officially counted for Tikhanovskaya. In 2 days, people collected more than 200 signatures (with passport numbers and addresses + phone numbers) that they voted for Tikhanovskaya at this polling station. The CEC did not even want to accept the complaint. Watch on the Internet a video of how the electoral commission is being pressured in Vitebsk to count Lukashenka instead of Tikhanovskaya 80% of the votes.

[nnm]

Quote: karpusha

At all polling stations where the commission did not succumb to persuasion and counted the votes honestly - everywhere Tikhanovskaya has 70-80% of the votes.

Can you even tell me the numbers of these sites?
And then you make such a generalizing and loud statement ... but I would like specifics, not slogans from nekhta.

Quote: karpusha

Plus, the voice platform where people sent photos of ballots with their address and number was also confirmed by 80%

Oh, that's five! The best proof. We have so "Echo" and Leshenka Navalny love to vote. And do not care that this is done among their fanatics - the results are so beautiful.

Quote: karpusha

At our polling station, only 112 votes were officially counted for Tikhanovskaya. In 2 days, people collected more than 200 signatures (with passport numbers and addresses + phone numbers) that they voted for Tikhanovskaya at this polling station.

And you know about it from / from .... (finish the phrase) ....

Quote: karpusha

The CEC did not even want to accept the complaint.

Is there a mark on the delivery of the postal item and a refusal to accept the application?

Quote: karpusha

Watch on the Internet a video of how in Vitebsk pressure is put on the election commission to count Lukashenka instead of Tikhanovskaya 80%.

And how has the opposition filed an application for a recount of votes?
I have never heard of such a thing. Or was a refusal received, which was appealed in court?
No again. Words, hysterics - I really don't want to. But in the legal field, absolutely nothing has been documented.

[karpusha]

Quote: nnm

And you know about it from / from .... (finish the phrase) ....

also signed and saw the number of signatures with my own eyes.

Quote: nnm

Is there a mark on the delivery of the postal item and a refusal to accept the application?

The postal item is gone - no one has received any more marks, as if it did not exist.

Quote: nnm

And how has the opposition filed an application for a recount of votes?

A huge number of complaints were filed and everything else was refused. The laws only work towards the state.
Let's start from the very beginning. In accordance with Article 56 of the Electoral Code of the Republic of Belarus, the voting date must be announced no later than 5 months in advance, and when was it actually announced? For 3 months instead of 5. Even here they violated their own laws. And you tell me here, write. The state wanted to spit on laws and complaints. Laws only work to fine and restrict people.
So what about the violation? Again, tell me to file complaints? What can you say about the video of voting from factories that I threw off? A fake from Poland?

[nnm]

Dear colleague, don't misunderstand me. I have read carefully everything you have written. And excuse me for being straightforward, but apart from clearly not a stupid person who had been driven into such nonsense into his brain, I saw nothing else. The disappearance of registered letters on all postal operators, the number of signatures, even without knowing the reliability of the data shown, the belief that complaints were filed about the recount, although even the nechta did not print about this with copies attached ...
Excuse me, but it’s just people like you in my earlier in Ukraine and now in Belarus that cause the most extreme surprise - obviously not stupid people, but with elementary, childish tricks they twirl you well, just as they want ... It reminded me of the period of the collapse of the USSR, when residents of the USSR, naive in their expectations, just like children were bred ...

[karpusha]

Why did the state break the law and announce the elections in 3 months, and not 5? Why did you break the law and not broadcast the inauguration on radio or television? Why did the president's press secretary, even during the inauguration ceremony, deny that it was taking place? That is, the state even in such things violated the laws - not the votes were counted honestly. It's funny and nothing more.

[nnm]

To be honest, I am not aware of the nuances of electoral law in the Republic of Belarus, and I absolutely do not want to check broadcasting obligations, deadlines, etc.
I’ll say something else - but it didn’t occur to you why exactly these questions were put into your consciousness (and, in fact, purely formal, and not essential), but why you don’t want to ask - why the opposition calls for massive violations of the law, or about where the west's money went. Do you want to clarify how it is, do they pay compensation to the strikers, as promised? Everyone? You don’t want to ask a question, doesn’t it sound like treason and a violation of the constitutional order to create a State Council? Don't you want to ask why exactly the opposition rejected Lukashenka's proposal to recount the results? How suddenly a new flag appeared, how suddenly the Poles and the Balts have become your best friends, that your opposition is hiding with them? Isn't your historical memory too short? Or how your opposition, having escaped from the country, demands sanctions against the Republic of Bashkortostan from the mighty of this world And so on ...

[karpusha]

You know too little about our country. But I will try to answer your questions. I will also note that I am an ordinary person and not an ardent oppositionist or something else. I will say right away that I am in favor of friendship with Russia.
The opposition does not call for massive violations of the law. The right to a peaceful meeting is enshrined in the constitution. The government refuses to coordinate any peaceful rallies other than pro-government ones. If the state does not want to allow rallies according to the law, rallies will be held without the permission of the authorities.

Quote: nnm

about where the west's money went

This is very funny. And most importantly, it says that you have no idea what is happening in our country. What other Western money? You know that in our country ALL financial flows have been under the complete control of the state for the last 10 years. 20 years ago, it was necessary to report to the last penny for humanitarian aid from the west or a parcel with money, and God forbid you cannot report - you will return the money plus a fine (from my relative received humanitarian aid from Italy, lived poorly). We can only bring money from the West in shorts (and this is not a joke). How much will you carry in your underpants? Well, 50-70 thousand dollars (if you saw such an amount live, you should represent) and that is a very high chance that you will be completely searched if you often travel abroad. And you think you can sponsor meetings of many thousands with this money for 2 months?
Remember in December 2010 in Minsk there was an attempt to organize the Belarusian Maidan? There were definitely sponsors from the west.

Quote: nnm

Do you want to clarify how it is, do they pay compensation to the strikers, as promised?

Not aware of this issue.

Quote: nnm

You don’t want to ask a question, doesn’t it sound like treason and a violation of the constitutional order to create a State Council?

And what does the violation of laws and the seizure of power give?

Quote: nnm

Don't you want to ask why exactly the opposition rejected Lukashenka's proposal to recount the results?

I'd like to get a link to this material or proposal. Lukashenka could possibly have talked about this, but he is a noble verbiage and lied a hundred times in front of television cameras.

Quote: nnm

How suddenly a new flag appeared, how suddenly the Poles and the Balts have become your best friends, that your opposition is hiding with them?

Why a new flag? Is it okay that Lukashenka took his first oath with this flag? This is our first flag and people like it. The Balts and Poles have always been our friends. Historically, we have been together with them much longer than with Russia. Many have relatives in Poland, Lithuania, including Ukraine.

Quote: nnm

Or how your opposition, having escaped from the country, demands sanctions against the Republic of Belarus from the mighty of this world. Well, and so on ..

They did not flee the country, they were either forced to leave under the threat of death of their loved ones or were simply not allowed into the country after leaving.

[Hyperion]

They won't believe it anyway. They think that their opinion will be taken into account in 2024. Naive. Putin could not help but recognize Lukashenko. Himself like that.

[solzh]

Quote: Hyperion

They won't believe it anyway

There would be something to believe

[nnm]

Quote: karpusha

The Balts and Poles have always been our friends. Historically, we have been together with them much longer than with Russia.

- that's what I'm talking about - how you were zombified! You were with them about the same as blacks in the American south were together with whites.
To be honest, I don't even want to answer other questions. All this has already been discussed a hundred times. And if you haven’t heard these arguments until now, you will not hear them now.
I will only say about the fact that Lukashenka announced the recount at a meeting with workers at some factory, there is one of the first videos, and the next day Tikhanovskaya and Co. immediately announced that they had only one demand - the transfer of power. I think, if you wish, you will quickly confirm it all.

[karpusha]

So why didn't he count the votes? What is the problem? I counted the votes and immediately closed all the problems and showed the world community who is the boss and his own people. All problems can be solved in one fell swoop. Or it turns out according to your words, did not count the votes. the opposition refused it?

[nnm]

And why should he do this? The CEC summed up the results - I do not agree if someone, let them appeal. But they don't want to - they demand an unconditional transfer of power.
And do not be ridiculous, he can count a million times - no one will send any observers and will also yell that he again falsified the result. Well, it's obvious.

[karpusha]

Understandable, understandable. It turns out there is an action that removes all questions, but he refuses it because just doesn't want to do it))

[nnm]

Yes, this is an absolutely useless action, when initiating the procedure by Lukashenka himself, which will not change anything at all.

[Campanella]

Don't write any bullshit! Go to telegram tut. by all information is aimed at inciting hatred! I tried to give my opinion and was immediately disconnected from the chat. Is this democracy and these people criticize Lukashenka? They are a thousand times worse, God forbid they come to power, then a person's life will be worth a penny.

[karpusha]

I can imagine what you wrote there))) I have 90% of comments being deleted there, but I mostly speak out against the authorities (though very softly).

[Campanella]

My message was not deleted, someone managed to call me a freak, they just deprived me of the opportunity to write my opinion at all.
The dictatorial and authoritarian telegram channel is a garbage dump!

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: Campanella

God forbid they come to power, then a person's life will be worth a penny.

Even the moderator of the channel's telegrams will be better than the collective farmer. And now a person's life is a broken penny, so it won't get any worse.

[Campanella]

Originally, what is your belief based on? On the fact that the opposition
will go from being victims to tyrants!
What model of behavior do you think they will choose when they come to power?
Partnerships? Such power will not last even six months! You just have no idea what you are talking about, and you yourself will remember the collective farmer with the kindest memories.
Look how they work with demonstrators in European countries, Father is an angel in comparison with them, but you don't want to see that!

[nnm]

Just get it right - I will not say on behalf of everyone, but I am more than satisfied with the independent Belarus (and I have lost time with the idea of ​​unification), but what the Tikhanovskys and others like her lead you to are only one to one reminiscent of recent Ukrainian history. And believe me, in a few years you will start jumping, and hating us and falling to your knees in front of the West, and rejoicing at the opportunity to scrub Polish toilets. It will be a fact. Because there is no vacuum in power, and it is the sixes of the West that will fill it. It will be inevitable.
We are writing all this to you not because we want it to be like ours, but because we don’t want what it would be like with us. For in the 90s we went through all this ourselves. And then we saw a copy in Ukraine.
And when I hear from Belarusians that everything is definitely different with us and it will not be so, I don’t understand whether I want to laugh or cry.

[karpusha]

90s are now under Lukashenka. The lowest minimum wage among all neighbors. Rampant banditry (people without identification marks grabbing and beating citizens). For a start, you would know what salaries and prices are in the camp. I recently voiced my friend from flax. what salaries are offered in Minsk for the state. factories so he almost died with laughter. The difference is exactly 2 times turned out. And many are already happy to go to Poland to work. The Poles are happy with our workers, and the workers see that they have enough money for something other than food and housing. For example, work in the city of Lida at a bakery for 70 dollars or at Lidselmash for 110. You will have so much patriotism at once.
People are tired of Lukashenka's incompetence. From his impudence. He bronzed.

[nnm]

That's right, do not prepare a new national elite, do not learn responsibility for voting, but drag Tikhanovskaya further to the presidency - either she or Kolesnikova (or whatever her) and salaries will immediately raise and order in the country will be restored ...

[karpusha]

What are you talking about, everyone who has brains or money - Lukashenka immediately eliminates. Nobody thinks that with Lukashenka's departure it will immediately get better, but this will give him a chance. He has already done the very best he could. For the last 7-8 years, it has been pulling the country into an abyss and lives only on borrowed money.

[nnm]

Colleague, this is your country - do whatever you want with it. I just feel sorry for you in advance.

[Campanella]

What a chance? Write?
You can immediately exclude Russia from the list of your partners. What chance do you have? Does the West promise you to boost the economy?
In the best case, he will deal with the reform of the political system of Belarus with all that it implies.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: karpusha

For example, work in the city of Lida at a bakery for 70 dollars or at Lidselmash for 110. You will have so much patriotism at once.

Greetings to fellow Lidchanin I would also add that there are worse options. Kindergarten teachers receive a minimum wage at all, there is not even enough to survive, people live off their parents' pension.

Something better is only at BelMed (and then selectively, they are breathing in frankincense. The next few months will be a complete calm on the antibiotic crumbling, people are sent on vacation early for 21 years, the next shortened weeks are coming) and Lidskoe Piva, but there is a private trader ... Only the crown knocked them down.

[karpusha]

I have a wife from Lida. She has a sister and parents there.

[Campanella]

They do not understand this, and how dumbfounded they are sawing the branch on which they sit self-confident and businesslike.
It is clear that they are mostly young, but this does not change anything, everyone can lose the country.

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: nnm

Do you want to clarify how it is, do they pay compensation to the strikers, as promised? Everyone?

Those who applied for support to the fund were paid to all those people.

[solzh]

Quote: Coco

And who is Tikhanovskaya ..?

Mazepa in a skirt. Judas of the Belarusian people.

[Oberleutnant]

In Germany, no one knows about Tikhanovskaya. And we are not at all concerned with the topic of Belarus. We have enough of our own problems. Let Merkel meet such a woman. Die Hunde bellen, aber die Karawane zieht weiter. Nothing will change. (Translation: the dogs bark but the caravan moves on).

[karpusha]

Your feedback is very important to us.

[solzh]

Quote: karpusha

Your feedback is very important to us.

Especially your opinion oh how important

[Incvizitor]

For your light it is important, probably, if it covers all the thresholds there.

[Stirbjorn]

And in your country in Germany, indeed, "the police are twisting and pouring tear gas on women who come out to protest for justice in Berlin." As the author of the article states at the end ?!
And it comes out very somehow ordinary. Well, France, the United States, are already used to it, and that in Germany, too, protesters are screwed, worse than the Belarusian Omon ?!

[Incvizitor]

And they carry out fascist flags with them, like these Untermenschs? Then of course they will be arrested.

[japs]

I can argue with you, Herr Oberlutenent. The press has been writing about this "leader" for a couple of weeks.
The elderly chancellor herself admires her. On the site of the newspaper "Welt" commentators argue.
And you say you haven't heard.

[Oberleutnant]

Don't argue with me. "Welt" is not Germany but a propaganda tool. The newspaper is obliged to write about Belarus

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Everyone present Who lives in Belarus.?

[g_ae]

Why are you interested in?

[Sergey Nikiforov]

But because only those who live in Belarus, or at least do not climb out from there, can talk about the situation in the country and the mood of the (real) people.Otherwise, it resembles pike vests from the classics

[g_ae]

And what exactly interests you? All opinions are subjective. In general, I will advise you. Find Alexey Golikov's YouTube channel from Brest. Here, in my opinion, is the most objective view of current events from the very heart of Belarus. Highly recommend. Many questions will disappear by themselves. And you can draw conclusions.

[Sergey red]

Well, me, and for what purpose are you interested?

[tralflot1832]

All diseases of women and nonsense in the head from the neglect of men!

[Pavel57]

Quote: svp67

And how is this cook worse than Khodorkovsky, Navalny?

Perhaps even better, without ambition, it is easier to manage.

[Sergey red]

Quote: Sergey Nikiforov

But because only those who live in Belarus, or at least do not climb out of there, can talk about the situation in the country and the mood of the (real) people

People have different moods ... like everywhere else ..
There are rabid zmagars - non-Khtarians, there are those who do not care and have bothered these youngsters running down the street - "IT people". There are a lot of those who are in order. But it is not fashionable to be like that)))

[Tusv]

I am against only one water cannon - the Belarus tractor, which washes the Moscow sidewalks, and even then, if it cannot be overtaken on my Lasapeda and have to trudge in its wake. The rest of the water cannons, I'm not interested

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Tikhanovskaya is going to visit Merkel

and the newcomer has already taken, to her now only after taking this drug

[karpusha]

Quote: nnm

Can you even tell me the numbers of these sites?

Here https://news.tut.by/economics/696057.html

[solzh]

Quote: karpusha

Quote: nnm

Can you even tell me the numbers of these sites?

Here https://news.tut.by/economics/696057.html

Protocols such as those provided at your link can be printed as many as you want on a computer and then distributed on the Internet, saying that they are real.

[vasek5533]

And this is not on the Internet, but on tut.by - this is the media. They would have been closed on August 10 if not for the real ones in the article. And what does this mean? That it is useless to prove anything to you.

[Campanella]

Tut.by is such a nasty bug like Neksta and similar publications, writes about freedom and justice.
However, if you suddenly write an opinion there that does not correspond to the "warming up" of the young audience, you are instantly disconnected from the chat. And these vile cynics are trying to instill democracy in Belarus? Belarusians wake up! You are being led to the slaughter like rams!

[Campanella]

Until all these telegram channels like here.by are plugged, nexta people will go on marches like zombies.
In principle, it turns out that "unsinkable" telegrams are as evil as good. Depends on who holds this stick. Now she is in the hands of kindling a civil war in Belarus, so we still need to learn how to crush this Durov program.

[karpusha]

Quote: nnm

You were with them in much the same way as the blacks in the American south were with the whites.

Here you wrote something completely out of topic. We were together with the Lithuanians in the GDL, then together with the Poles in the Rech Pospalita. My wife has Polish roots and relatives in Lithuania. The Belarusian language is very similar to Polish. Being in Poland, I understand 70% what they write and what the Poles are talking about (although I have never learned Polish and cannot speak it).

[nnm]

Even so? What period of the great Polish-Belarusian friendship would you like to talk about? Rzeczpospolita, or after 1921? On specific historical examples.

[karpusha]

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

[nnm]

Could you tell me, colleague, what were the Krevsk and Brest unions aimed at? Is this how they treat equal partners? And how were they accepted by the local population on the territory of modern Belarus?
Does the opinion of the Belarusian poet Bogdanovich regarding that period mean anything to you? Or what did Dovnar-Zapolsky say about the Union of Lublin?

[karpusha]

Quote: Campanella

Tut.by is such a nasty bug like Neksta and similar publications, writes about freedom and justice.
However, if you suddenly write an opinion there that does not correspond to the "warming up" of the young audience, you are instantly disconnected from the chat. And these vile cynics are trying to instill democracy in Belarus? Belarusians wake up! You are being led to the slaughter like rams!

You write nonsense. Tut.by is the most popular news resource in Belarus and is rather neutral. Until recently, Lukashenka communicated very well with Yuri Ziser (founder of tut.by).
If, for example, I can say about Nexta that this is a strange channel, then tut.by is an excellent news resource. One of the best in the post-Soviet space.

[Well done]

In the subject
Anecdote: Navalny is lying in Germany, in a hospital. The Germans come to him and speak.
_- Alexey, don't go back to Russia. What are you going to do there? There is Putin, there is a morder, you will come back, they will definitely kill you there.
Navalny asks:
- Is your type safe?
The Germans answer:
- Sure! Near Berlin, there is a posh bunker. Special protection. By the way, Skripal has been hanging out there for 2 years. Everything, you have a company. He has apartment number 1, you will have number 2.
Navalny answers:
- Well, let's. I'm going to the bunker.
Night. Bunker. Apartment number 2. Navalny is waking up. And quietly goes to apartment number 1. Leans over to the sleeping Skripal and quietly says in his ear:
- Well, what, .. well, thought we won't get it?

[Yaro Polk]

Eurodumps are 2-personal. why don't you cover it?
I think water cannons are preferable to tear.gas.
"In Finland, a peaceful protest of environmentalists was dispersed with tear gas
Olga Kotova, October 4, 2020 "
https://yandex.ru/turbo/belnovosti.by/s/v-mire/v-finlyandii-mirnuyu-akciyu-protesta-ekologov-razognali-slezotochivym-gazom

[Yaro Polk]

* even more so to apply gas to such a small group of people (* several dozen people)

[Igor Litvin]

Quote: TerribleGMO

... In general, do whatever you want. There will no longer be such a good-neighborly attitude towards Russians as closest comrades. The "brothers" did their best with the support of the "loyal ally". Then, of course, write that the West has torn away the oaths from the Rossiyushka, but this will no longer make any difference.

The Russians do not understand this. Despite the fact that they have already lost allies, they continue in the same spirit. The Russians do not fit in their heads - that by supporting the illegitimate Lukashenko against the Belarusian people, they will lose the Belarusians as allies.

[Viktor Sergeev]

That's right, only more bleach should be added to the water to disinfect against coronavirus.
,

[Igor Litvin]

Quote: nnm

...
I’ll say something else - but it didn’t occur to you why exactly these questions were put into your consciousness (and, in fact, purely formal, and not essential), but why you don’t want to ask - why the opposition calls for massive violations of the law, or about where the west's money went. Do you want to clarify how it is, do they pay compensation to the strikers, as promised? Everyone? You don’t want to ask a question, doesn’t it sound like treason and a violation of the constitutional order to create a State Council? Don't you want to ask why exactly the opposition rejected Lukashenka's proposal to recount the results? How suddenly a new flag appeared, how suddenly the Poles and the Balts have become your best friends, that your opposition is hiding with them? Isn't your historical memory too short? Or how your opposition, having escaped from the country, demands sanctions against the Republic of Bashkortostan from the mighty of this world And so on ...

"put into your head" - this is, excuse me, they put propaganda into your head. We live here and see for ourselves, with our own eyes. Not from RT. About the proposal to recount the votes - you are simply intrigued - can I have a link? Our opposition is a dozen marginals who have no influence. The main partner in the economy is Russia, plus traditionally good relations. The performances are popular, so they are stupid and poorly organized. By supporting a losing candidate against the people, Russia risks losing the good attitude of the Belarusian people. I am already silent about the losses for Belarus from the breakdown of relations.

[g_ae]

Nonsense about folk performances. I somehow collected money for an intercom. Cursed everything. And then self-organization. Three times ha. And stupid, because this is the goal - to wreak havoc. Which is easy and done. And it’s always easier to take out and pump up the brain of the people with beautiful slogans, lacy panties, funny pictures and performances than to force the convolutions to strain. Especially young people. We are not the first, we are not the last. Now Karabakh, Kyrgyzstan. Georgia is next, then Moldova. Who's next not reaching?

[spectr]

Maybe a deal is in the pipeline. Germany is funding the "shadow government" of Belarus, while the US turns a blind eye to the Nord Stream.