An assumption was made regarding the weapons that were used in the shelling of the Azerbaijani city of Ganja

The Azerbaijani authorities announced that the Armenian troops struck at the city of Ganja, 335 thousand. It is the second most populous city in the republic (in the first place is the capital, Baku). From 1935 to 1989 the city was called Kirovabad.

Reports indicate that ammunition fired by Armenian troops destroyed and damaged several buildings. In total, up to seven rounds of ammunition were fired in the city.

At the moment, no casualties have been reported from the shelling.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan announced that it was taking "punitive measures" against the enemy. From the message of the departmental press service:

The Azerbaijani army is taking punitive measures against the enemy, who does not attach importance to the repeated warnings made to him.

The press secretary of the president of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic earlier said that a military airfield in the Azerbaijani city of Ganja had been attacked. It is also used to send drums drones into the zone of armed conflict.

Footage of the shelling of an Azerbaijani city.

Results of Armenia's massive missile attacks against dense residential areas in Ganja city. Azerbaijan retains its right to take adequate measures against legitimate military targets to defend civilians and enforce Armenia to peace. 4 new missile just hit Ganja. pic.twitter.com/GInYCJyJc6

- Hikmet Hajiyev (@HikmetHajiyev) October 4, 2020

However, judging by the footage, we are talking about a residential area. Perhaps it is adjacent to a military facility.
What exactly was the shelling was not reported.

For reference: the distance from Stepanakert to the city of Ganja in a straight line is exactly 100 km. Experts suggest that the strike could have been delivered from the north of the territory of the unrecognized NKR using MLRS or barrel artillery.

Earlier, the Armenian side accused the enemy of shelling settlements in the Republic of Armenia. At the same time, the head of the press service of Armenia Shushan Stepanyan stated that the Armenian army did not open fire in the direction of Azerbaijan.

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[Insurgent]

An assumption was made regarding the weapons that were used in the shelling of the Azerbaijani city of Ganja

YEREVAN, 4 October - Sputnik. The military airfield of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces in Ganja (formerly Kirovabad) has been destroyed, said adviser to the President of Nagorno-Karabakh Vahram Poghosyan on his Facebook page.

© SPUTNIK

"Military airfield in Ganja took off. First", - noted Poghosyan.

In turn, The RA Ministry of Defense has officially announced that no fire is being fired from the territory of the Republic of Armenia in the direction of Azerbaijan.



Read more: https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20201004/24754742/Voennyy-aerodrom-v-Gyandzhe-unichtozhen.html

[dgonni]

Well, if you read the link, then Azerbaijan completely destroyed all UAVs three times. The same applies to other equipment and manpower.
F-16 is pure fake. Azerbaijan does not have them in service, and Turkey did not go into local squabbles with its air forces. This is a fake news for local people to explain the reasons for the losses and inefficiency of the army.

[tralflot1832]

So the Armenians in the second round everything went. But that both sides began to beat on civilians, this is very bad. It means that on the front line it is not at all what the propagandists write about. !

[stalki]

So the Armenians in the second round everything went. But that both sides began to beat on civilians, this is very bad. It means that on the front line it is not at all what the propagandists write about. !

It’s just who first started, in this case, it is very important. Because this is a deliberate aggravation of the situation, a direct provocation. And it is still not clear from which side. And you want to finish already. Everything is just beginning and whoever is involved in such matters did not plan to end the conflict, but on the contrary is interested in escalation.

[maiman61]

But I just want to know! And what does it mean who first started? Armenia has occupied 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan and 350 Azerbaijani refugees cannot return to their homes! Then it turns out that the USSR near Moscow was the first to start a war against Germany! After all, it was not the Germans who launched the offensive near Moscow, so the USSR is to blame for unleashing the war?

[stalki]

But I just want to know! And what does it mean who first started? Armenia has occupied 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan and 350 Azerbaijani refugees cannot return to their homes! Then it turns out that the USSR near Moscow was the first to start a war against Germany! After all, it was not the Germans who launched the offensive near Moscow, so the USSR is to blame for unleashing the war?

Who was the first to start shooting at peaceful people, or did you see something else in my commentary? If you want to debate who Nagorno-Karabakh really belongs to, then you need to start with the Armenian tribes even before our era. Karabakh (a.r.ts.a.kh.) Is their territory. It was just that she was then mutuzili here and there. And in comparison with the USSR, you really don't go down to kindergarten, absolutely not in the subject, not in the top ten, not in the bull's-eye and not even in milk.

[maiman61]

Don't be stupid! This is very clear. 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan is occupied, 5-7 regions are occupied, where not a single Armenian lived, 350 Azerbaijanis are refugees and have been wandering in strange corners for thirty years!

[stalki]

Don't be stupid! This is very clear. 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan is occupied, 5-7 regions are occupied, where not a single Armenian lived, 350 Azerbaijanis are refugees and have been wandering in strange corners for thirty years!

You will poke yourself in the mirror. Open the story and read. And just in general, I did not discuss the belonging of the territory, I remind you that once again.

[K-612-O]

Let's start with the fact that Azerbaijan appeared as a state only under Soviet rule, in contrast to A.R. Ts. A. Ha and Armenia.

[Yeraz]

Quote: stalki

, then you need to start with the Armenian tribes before our era.

and from what it? enough with the legal part of the laws of our time and that's it.

[stalki]

"Why is this?" how you quickly jumped off. Eka takes you away from the real facts of belonging of the indigenous population of the region. Once and in our times. And everything else is on the side. Nope, in this matter it will not work like that, you tell the Armenians in person, let's see the reaction.

[Yeraz]

Quote: stalki

how you quickly jumped off. Eka takes you away from the real facts of belonging of the indigenous population of the region

what does the dismount and the facts of the population belong to ??? Questions are not resolved that way. According to your logic, all Turkic peoples should return to Altai, all Arabs will return to the Arabian sands, etc. There is a legal aspect and that's all. Everything else, and we are here thousands of years ago, and we are 10 thousand years ago this is a conversation for children.

[stalki]

what does the dismount and the facts of the population belong to ??? Questions are not resolved that way. According to your logic, all Turkic peoples should return to Altai, all Arabs will return to the Arabian sands, etc. There is a legal aspect and that's all. Everything else, and we are here thousands of years ago, and we are 10 thousand years ago this is a conversation for children.

For children, this is just "give it mine, because there is a drop of my jam on the bear" "mine is not, because the bear is in my kerchief", etc. this is precisely what legal demagoguery is. And then, according to logic, I will note not according to mine, but simply according to logic, it is necessary to stop hostilities and create conditions for a referendum for that part of the population who lives in this disputed region and, on the basis of this vote, determine the future fate of this territory and the peoples living on it. That's all. And the "Ottomans", as always, took up a dirty game. Azerbaijan wouldn’t have gotten into trouble without their direction.

[Yeraz]

Quote: stalki

For children, this is just "give it mine, because there is a drop of my jam on the bear" "mine is not, because the bear is in my handkerchief", etc. this is precisely what legal demagoguery is. And then, according to logic, I will note not according to mine, but simply according to logic, it is necessary to stop hostilities and create conditions for a referendum for that part of the population who lives in this disputed region and, on the basis of this vote, determine the future fate of this territory and the peoples living on it. That's all

you slept and just woke up ???? 30 YEARS at the table NEGOTIATIONS are underway. And the refugees were not even returned to the regions occupied around Nagorno-Karabakh to go to Nagorno-Karabakh itself.
Something Russia, when it comes to it, is guided by its constitution, and does not allow each region to hold a referendum and, in the event of gestures, carries out a counter-terrorist operation. But as far as Azerbaijan is concerned, a referendum and seizure of lands, which are generally outside the supposedly disputed region, are possible.
Therefore, I consider the result of 30 YEARS OF NEGOTIATIONS, the result of which is 0000000000000000000, not a single meter has been returned, I think it speaks for itself and there is no need to turn on the fool.

[stalki]

you slept and just woke up ???? 30 YEARS at the table NEGOTIATIONS are underway. And the refugees were not even returned to the regions occupied around Nagorno-Karabakh to go to Nagorno-Karabakh itself.
Something Russia, when it comes to it, is guided by its constitution, and does not allow each region to hold a referendum and, in the event of gestures, carries out a counter-terrorist operation. But as far as Azerbaijan is concerned, a referendum and seizure of lands, which are generally outside the supposedly disputed region, are possible.
Therefore, I consider the result of 30 YEARS NEGOTIATIONS, the result of which is 0000000000000000000, not a single meter has been returned, I think it speaks for itself and you don't need to turn on the fool

You speak from only one position. From the position of Azerbaijan. "Everything is ours and give it back to us." And I repeat once again, personally, for an objective assessment by the residents themselves. And this is my subjective opinion, what the rulers of Armenia and Azerbaijan have been doing not for 30 years, but for a couple of centuries, is for God's judgment. There, and Turkey ruled and the British and ours and yours, and it means only us to blame? Interestingly you settled down.

[sevryuk]

What about the legality of the withdrawal of the AzSSR from the Soviet Union?

[nikolaki6890]

Yes, comparisons of course .....

[Mwg]

Well said

[Maz]

Another Transport worker from Israel flies to Baku. ⚡️Did the bq for "Laura", kamikaze dons, UAVs or other Israeli MLRS, which are used to surround the peaceful quarters of Stepanakert? Sixth since the beginning of last week. Shaw, to the Jews of Aizer's money does not smell like the blood of the Jews? And the blood of Armenians and Azeibarjans?

[Bakinec]

Congratulations. Azerbaijani troops liberated the city of Jabrail today. Will be in Khankendi soon.

[Baron pardus]

No need to roll your eyes in mock indignation. Weapons are sold by EVERYONE. And the USA, and Russia, and Canada, and Sweden, EVERYTHING. Do you think the weapons sold by Russia, or is there more humane or pretend killing by France than what the Israelis sold? You know, Rafale and Grippen are not fertilizer planes, not agricultural fields. The arms trade is a normal business. If Israel (or Russia) sold someone a batch of, for example, howitzers, or MLRS, then HOW the Howitzers and MLRS data are used is not Israel or Russia, but the one who bought it. On F16 you can patrol your borders and not fly anywhere outside your country. And you can bomb everyone you can. And this is not the fault of the manufacturers of F16, and not the fault of those who sold it, but the fault of those who decided HOW to use this F16. Do you know you can make meatballs with a hammer, or you can kill people.

[Sergey_G_M]

Strange news - what does the distance from Stepanokert to Ganja have to do with it?
Stepanokert is not the closest point of Nagorno-Karabakh to Gayanj, so it is 50 kilometers from the border of Nagorno-Karabakh to Ganja. And this is quite a working distance for MLRS.

[genisis]

For example, from Matagiz, "taken" by the Azerbaijanis yesterday, to Gandzak (Ganja) is just 50 km.
Now Hikmet Hajiyev, mentioned in the article, speaks out and declares that "Araik Harutyunyan, who is hiding in a bunker and calls himself the president of Karabakh, is seriously wounded."
I go to Facebook, President of Artsakh Arayik Harutyunyan is addressing the people of Azerbaijan on the air. I made a screenshot specially. How to take Hikmet Hajiyev and all the blizzard that he sweeps seriously after this?

[Bakinec]

Do not believe it. Do you believe shun Hovhannisyan who has already destroyed 14 planes, 14 helicopters and an uncountable number of Turkish f16

[Hypertension]

Once such a booze has gone - cut the last cucumber. I would not be surprised if, in the current situation, the Armenians will crap about everything that moves, as they say. Maximum damage in the shortest possible time - this is the strategy of modern wars. Whether it is humane or not is no longer a question. Go and go brutality, bitterness and hatred. All these events, no matter how the conflict ends, have already programmed the situation in Transcaucasia and the world as a whole for centuries. Star Wars with Jedi and lightsabers seems more real than peaceful relations between Armenians and Azeris. And this is in the 21st century. Where scientists send messages to extraterrestrial civilizations. Holy simplicity. Peace to us, earthlings, only dreams ...

[Baron pardus]

When they climb on you in a fight, you hit anywhere, even in the throat, eyes and crotch (personally, I hit in the throat first of all in a fight). a fight is not an Olympic boxing. And war is not a place for college girls. If you were attacked (and the aggressor is Azerbaijan), then all means are good. It is necessary to bleed so that later it was discouraging. Never to anyone. If YOU were attacked, then after you were subjected to aggression for you, in my understanding, the laws are not written. And the defending side has the right to hit where the attacker will hurt the most, including civilian cents. When you are attacked, you need to answer in such a way that no one ever has a thought to attack you, so that they understand what is more dear to themselves. I'm not Armenian, from the word at all, and I know perfectly well where most of the thieves in law in the USSR and Russia came from, and how people from both "small but proud republics" in Russia behave and how they behaved in the USSR. I saw perfectly how the Armenians lived, and how they lived in Russia and in Ukraine and Belarus. Nevertheless. Karabakh is ARMENIA. The people expressed their desire - the dissatisfied can leave or assimilate. And the attack of Azerbaijan, WITHOUT an ultimatum, WITHOUT declaring war (does it resemble anything?) In my humble opinion, gives Armenia the right to practically everything. Maybe not for the use of weapons of mass destruction, although if it comes to the loss of statehood, then it is possible to use weapons of mass destruction, the Armenians know very well what awaits them if they are conquered by the Turkic peoples (and the Azerbaijanis are TURKS and the Turks too) .. There were incidents.

[YOUR]

Armenians opened fire on Ganja in retaliation for shelling their cities. Before that, Azerbaijan was warned, if they do not stop shelling their cities, they will answer. They didn't believe it. They fired on, believed. At present, both sides have stopped all shelling of settlements.

... The fighting between Azerbaijan and Nagorno-Karabakh stretched along the entire border. Baku reports that they managed to recapture several secondary roads and nine settlements. The attacks on Stepanakert had to be stopped, as Nagorno-Karabakh promised to hit back on Azerbaijani settlements. It seems that after the artillery strike on the city of Ganja, they were believed. Over the past day, the cover of the website of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has actually turned into a demobilized photo album of Turkish servicemen who came to the exercises in Baku ...
Well, the speeches of presidents where they compete who will say the big kaku about the neighbors.

[Asad]

The blitzkrieg did not work out, and now there will be an endless series of killings, injuries, and tragedies, especially among the civilian population of both states.

[Prahlad]

And no one wanted a blitzkrieg, Azerbaijan is methodically knocking out the positions of the armies. And then there will be a cleanup. They have a clear plan there, unlike the arm.

[nnm]

Not true. The introduction of tank reserves into battle after breaking through the first line and when it slowed down on the second line shows that they were trying to implement exactly the idea of ​​a blitzkrieg (as far as it is applicable to the terrain).
And considering the peculiarities of TVD, where the Armenians occupy the dominant heights, "methodically knocking out" in the positioning will most likely be Azeri.

[Asad]

I completely agree with you, the most disgusting thing is that the civilian population is dying in both Karabakh and Ukraine.

[Alena-Baku]

there is no need to let your Armenian variants here, the association with Ukraine was inappropriate.

[Asad]

Actually, I'm from Novosibirsk, aunt.

[Alena-Baku]

Take care of yourself, son, I didn’t ask where you came from, but I said about your Armenian options.

[aiden]

But the Azerbaijani bots arrived

[Prahlad]

These heights will not be held for long, given the complete air superiority. All the same, they are kicked out of the pipe. How not cool time works against the arm. Their empty is only a matter of time. If Russia doesn’t help, it will obviously not help.

[nnm]

It doesn't look like that. Recent days have not brought much change.

[genisis]

Uncle, don't be afraid. The Ossetians haven't pulled themselves together yet. They, too, will ask the askers for Mirza Abaev and his guys.

[Skarpzd]

and seasonal weather changes when in this region? just wondering. with the onset of rains, air support will be very difficult.

[Keyser soze]

given complete air superiority

Bayraktars are not air superiority at all. With it you will destroy 2 tanks and 5 tents, but you will not knock out the mountain fortified area. Yes, and the Armenian air defense, which is none, but there is a C300 there and a SU 30 there and the entire Russian base there. Most likely the end of the aizers. End. Finito.

[Vadim237]

Over time, Azerbaijan will disable and destroy all armored vehicles from Armenians with its drones along with artillery positions. There is no blitzkrieg - just the tactics of exhausting the air defense and the Armed Forces of Armenia, when they are exhausted, then they will hit massively.

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

Azerbaijani army takes punitive measures

How do they then differ from the fascists?

Don't give up, Armenians.

[Otshelnik]

But where will they go ... unless back to India, to their camp ... your anger is like a balm on the soul)

[sabakina]

Quote: Otshelnik

your anger is like a balm to the soul)

Ha, I am also a Universal evil !!! Look, as if Russia does not turn out to be the very fifth element !!!

[Insurgent]

Quote: sabakina

Look, as if Russia does not turn out to be the very fifth element !!!

[Otshelnik]

Your consciousness is still somewhere in the 90s of the last century, and among the Armenians too ... it pleases ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Otshelnik

Your consciousness is still somewhere in the 90s of the last century, and among the Armenians too ... it pleases ...

You will rejoice exactly until the time when the children of Russian soldiers who brought peace to Karabakh in the 90s will forced come again ...
But keep in mind, more, the Russian soldier will not leave there ...

[Graz]

And what will you do when all your oil production is destroyed by a missile strike? You will suck your paw with the whole country

[Keyser soze]

Your consciousness is still somewhere in the 90s of the last century

But yours gurgled straight into the 14th century and the wet dreams of the Sultan ibriks.

[Otshelnik]

The dog barks, the caravan moves on .... proverb ..

[Lelek]

Quote: sabakina

Look, as if Russia does not turn out to be the very fifth element !!!

, Vyacheslav.
I read your post and thought - does Russia need it? Azerbaijan with a firm gait in the Erdogan sultanate, and Pashinyan's Armenia twist and twirl its tail, but mainly with a desire to lean against the United States. The latter hopes for the canon of the CSTO (since friend Trump is neither a dream nor a spirit for Armenia), but does not give a clear answer to the leadership of the Russian Federation about his orientation. So is it necessary to tear the vest for one of these, eager to clean up the face of their vi-za-vi? And our military has a lot of problems. I think that the only argument to get involved in a fight is Turkey's aggression against the state of Armenia.

[Bakinec]

And what is the difference between the Armenians shelling a peaceful city from the Nazis.

[the finish]

And that the Armenian towns and villages are not peaceful?

[Bakinec]

It is not our fault that in the cities occupied by the Armenians in Karabakh, the Armenians set firing points in residential areas. Azerbaijan tries its best to deliver pinpoint strikes. The best solution is to send Armenians to Armenia as soon as possible. After the liberation of the Azerbaijani troops from the occupation, the Armenians of Karabakh will be able to return and finally live in peace.

[the finish]

I dare to assume that art was installed on the balcony of this house in Stepanakert.

[Bakinec]

Not necessarily on the balcony. You can put it nearby and then when the rocket arrives, you can give interviews with a distorted face, they say, see what Azerbaijanis are evil.

[the finish]

The airfield is also with residential areas ...

[Bakinec]

Which airfield?

[Nastia makarova]

airfield destroyed

[Bakinec]

Precisely that the Armenians do not fire at the airfield, the civilian population is fired at

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Is it that Armenia is forcibly keeping the local Armenians under occupation?
All the same, it is bad not to pay attention to the local population, to their interests and preferences.
Such episodes feed separatism. Separatism is evil in itself, but the present states were formed from the USSR, this was also separatism.
The variant of a quiet life, after a purely forceful "decision", becomes more and more illusory.
How will they live in peace? Right now they are sitting and thinking, would they rather free us from the occupation troops? The decision on amnesty to all parties to the conflict has probably already been made?
Or are they going to be prosecuted, at best judicial?

[Bakinec]

Do not worry about them, the Armenians, citizens of Azerbaijan, after de-occupation of the territories can return to their homes and live in peace. It is not the first time Armenia does nasty things for us, but we have always asked for them. For example, in 1918. By the way, I congratulate the Armenian population of Karabakh - Azerbaijani troops liberated the city of Jabrail today. Will be in Khankendi soon

[alexmach]

It is not our fault that in the cities occupied by the Armenians in Karabakh, the Armenians set firing points in residential areas

Well, are the Armenians to blame for placing your aircraft at an airfield in the second largest city?

[kapitan92]

Quote: alexmach

Well, are the Armenians to blame for placing your aircraft at an airfield in the second largest city?

Alexander,
The places are familiar. in Kirovobad there was 104 airborne division. I was there a couple of times. They had a cool "lip", a couple of times drove their "outrageous" there, a week later they were silk.
Agjabedi (on the map). half a year in a company stood, Imishli (they received fuel and lubricants), Yevlakh, Agdam (now in ruins), a luxurious port. They took at the factory. Everything is already "far away".
Do not pay attention to these emerging "patriots", they are now like dirt on the site.
They are "waving a saber" on their sofas, and not in the trenches, let them make fun of them.

[alexmach]

Agdam (now in ruins), a gorgeous port. The factory took

Father-in-law was telling something about cognac in tanks

[kapitan92]

Quote: alexmach

Father-in-law was telling something about cognac in tanks

There was a sin in my youth. 1 liter of 95th = 1 liter of port, by the way. cool.
10 liters of 95th = 1 liter of cognac alcohol. They took him in cans when they went to school for young people. The most valuable gift was, and if you add pomegranate and fruit, then the "white hundred" was guaranteed.

[perm23]

do not write nonsense, no one is aiming at this war and beating anywhere. and no need to translate the arrows. I had to sit and negotiate and not shoot. And you hit the residential areas. just like the Ukrainian Armed Forces beat and hit the towns and villages of the DPR and LPR

[K-612-O]

Well, we also regularly heard this from the Sumerians when they covered residential areas. Then you start to say that they fired at themselves?

[Alena-Baku]

Khojaly genocide is on the conscience of such people.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Khojaly genocide is on the conscience of such people.

Looking at numerous photographs of soldiers, Armenians and Azerbaijanis I saw people with bad teeth and partially without teeth ... With sunken cheeks, thin and not very well fed. Ordinary, simple, completely not rich people ... Trying to hide their frightened eyes ... They will die for Aliyev-Pashinyan ..., rich. healthy, well-fed, dishonorable, Who hid their relatives and friends from death under daddy's trousers ... politicians. You Alyona Baku throwing slogans ... Take and give up your father, son, husband for slaughter. brother ... To the glory of Great Azerbaijan - Great Armenia .. All this slaughter is stupidity and impotence of politicians!

[Alena-Baku]

here I agree with you, my son from his first marriage is Russian and my daughter is from an Azerbaijani, why should my son die. This is how Karabakh was under the occupation of Armenia for thirty years and still lived until Pashinyan came with his fascist literature that Karabakh is Armenia.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Alena-Baku

here I agree with you, my son from his first marriage is Russian and my daughter is from an Azerbaijani, why should my son die. This is how Karabakh was under the occupation of Armenia for thirty years and still lived until Pashinyan came with his fascist literature that Karabakh is Armenia.

Please tell me, you personally do not care whose Karabakh is .. What do you have there? Vineyards, factories, hundreds of hectares of land, a lot of real estate in personal ownership ... In addition to the hypothetical type - "Karabakh, Azerbaijan land .." what are the interests of You there ! ! All are wrong .. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. And if Aliyev and Pashinyan so want war.. Let them sit in a tank, an airplane, climb into a trench covered in rain, full of sticky, smelly mud. At the head of their sycophants and daughters with their little sons, they die for the glory of Az-na-Ar-nii. But it won't be like that .. Innocent Armenians and Azerbaijanis will die .. simple, not rich people. Deceived, robbed people

[perm23]

what nonsense all the same. You then something from the one whose Arabs you are forbidden to enter there or something. You are like ukrodebily. they are yelling about the Crimea, and then someone forbade them to go to the Crimea. Yes, no one, so here we must live together and peacefully and not shout about the occupation

[Kapany3]

Is Sumgait on you?

[rocket757]

Civilian casualties, this is a new wave of hatred ...
The incendiaries of the conflict dare to kindle a fire to the skies ... they either warm up in this conflict, but they warm up their raking rakes. It has always been this way!

[Fungus]

Dot Y that they shied away

[Lesorub]

Quote: Fungus

Dot Y that they shied away

From Point Y there would be a big funnel and these houses are in ruins (and there are partial destruction)

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Lesorub

From Point Y there would be a big funnel and these houses are in ruins (and there are partial destruction)

The "Tochka U" has a cassette warhead, which includes 50 high-explosive fragmentation elements. At an altitude of up to 2000 m, the main warhead is being opened and 50 OF elements scatter over an area of ​​up to 7 hectares, it is good to use it for areal targets, including airfields. They hit residential buildings, or poorly guided, or some combat elements hooked on nearby houses.

By the way, where is the Azerbaijani air defense, Point U is flying along a known trajectory, does not maneuver, did you sleep?

[nobody75]

Something I can't believe in the destruction of the airfield ... To destroy the airbase in Ganja, special ammunition is needed ... The war of cities has begun ...

[7,62x54]

"... Experts suggest that the strike could have been delivered from the north of the territory of the unrecognized NKR using MLRS or cannon artillery ...."
If they used barrel artillery for 100 km, then the Armenians quietly bypassed the best developers in the world.

[Olezhek]

If they used barrel artillery for 100 km, then the Armenians quietly bypassed the best developers in the world

So, absolutely suddenly "terrible military secrets" are revealed ...

[sabakina]

in a straight line is exactly 100 km. Experts suggest that the strike could have been delivered from the north of the territory of the unrecognized NKR using MLRS or barrel artillery.

The article does not cover the topic of "boobs". Excuse me, is this a VO or a WoT forum?

[voyaka uh]

At least one missile hit the middle of a residential area.
Show video.
Did you hit the airfield? - no information.

[the finish]

Since the world community has been pretending for a week that nothing is happening, then it is still necessary to jump through the oil and gas pipelines. Maybe then they will see the smoke! A bunch of Navalny and Tikhanovskaya's cry are heard and seen clearly! Aleppo and Idlib were also well noticed, Rakka was not seen. 2 days they bombed Stepanakert with MLRS and Polonezov, aviation.

[Olezhek]

Since the world community has been pretending for a week that nothing is happening, then it is still necessary to jump through the oil and gas pipelines.

Well ... not in residential areas - is there any point in hitting residential areas?
The people will only be angrier

[Alena-Baku]

Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan and the armed formations there are not laws and the point of view of the criminal code of the Russian Federation under Article 208 are illegal armed formations.

[sabakina]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan and the armed formations there are not laws and the point of view of the criminal code of the Russian Federation under Article 208 are illegal armed formations.

Since when did the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation begin to spread on the territory of other states?

[Alena-Baku]

it seems we are sitting on a Russian site

[aiden]

Why are you sitting here, and not in Azerbaijani? You still answer the genocide of the Russians

[Alena-Baku]

Well, son, what are you doing here with incitement? Or do you need the Russian brother to go to conquer the lands instead of you?

[aiden]

Nobody will go there, they will scramble something with tactical complexes, and the mustache will end, including the help of the Turks and Sooros. I have a good attitude towards the majority of the inhabitants of both states, but the Armenians, at least, do not drag the terrorist slag from Syria. And think about what will happen if the Russian Federation considers that they pose a threat to the Russian Federation. And the Russian Federation borders on Azerbaijan. And there Iran is also ready to provide assistance to Armenia. He pulled the equipment to the border. Will Erdogan have enough strength to compete?

[Alena-Baku]

if interested, I will throw off how many mercenaries from Syria in Armenia Now.

[perm23]

Do you live in Russia or something. you ran away from us in 91. so what have our laws to do with it.

[Alena-Baku]

I personally did not run anywhere, 88 - 91 years old hunchbacked and then Yeltsin drove me to hell.

[perm23]

Nobody drove you anywhere. who prevented you from staying in Russia

[the finish]

Idlib is the territory of Syria. What are the Turks doing there? Have you chopped off another thirty kilometer zone? Plus they invaded Iraq.

[Insurgent]

Quote: finish

Idlib is the territory of Syria. What are the Turks doing there? Have you chopped off another thirty kilometer zone?

This is a question for some comrades in the Kremlin and on Smolenskaya Square ...

[Spartanec]

You are right in everything, except for the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (it is absolutely out of place here). The problem is that you (meaning Azerbaijan) do not want to understand that the war of destruction will not give a positive result, it will only lead to bitterness. And spirit is also very important in the conduct of war. You are fighting for the land (this can be clearly seen from all the comments), and the land, although an important but inanimate object, but the Armenians are fighting for the people who now live there, but this is a completely different calico. The same is happening in Donbas. And that is why, personally, I think that you cannot win, or you will get the victory with a lot of blood. You don't have to shoot, but think about how to coexist peacefully, it's hard for me to understand, but nothing else is given.

[K-612-O]

Let's start with the fact that A-rtsakh is either an independent republic according to Soviet laws, when it was seceded, or the territory transferred to Russia by the Persians in 1813 for eternal times. But not Azerbaijan, which did not exist before the Soviet regime.

[Livonetc]

Now the question is in providing ammunition.
Azerbaijan will most likely have fewer problems with this.
If anything, Turkey will supply its own weapons systems with ammunition.
But who will supply Armenia?

[vladimirvn]

Like who? Russia of course. Not for the first time already, during the Karabakh conflict.

[Livonetc]

Not sure.
Most likely, earlier, the reserves of the times of the USSR were used.
Of course there are delivered Russian systems.
The same Iskander with a certain stock of missiles. ...
And the S300 air defense systems will probably provide. missiles if necessary.
However, no additional weapons system or ammunition load will most likely be delivered.
Russia will defiantly and strictly maintain neutrality in terms of problems related to Karabakh.
But the Russian grouping in Armenia itself will be strengthened, especially in the air defense unit.
And they will cover the very territory of Armenia.
Iran can provide serious support to Armenia.
And then, in fact, a geopolitical game between Turkey and Iran on foreign territory will begin.

[nnm]

Now, for sure, they regret that they themselves forbade us to improve our database.

[Livonetc]

So, a certain number of aircraft have landed there recently.

[Insurgent]

Quote: vladimirvn

Like who? Russia of course. Not for the first time already, during the Karabakh conflict.

Alas, this will remain an objective reality as long as the former republics of the USSR (constituent parts of the Republic of Ingushetia) demonstrate a "parade of sovereignty" and an imaginary "independence" outside the common civilizational space.

In general, the word is for Russia ...

[maiman61]

Soros will supply! It is only necessary to remove the Russian base, the occupation one!

[Livonetc]

Let's take offense at Armenia, say "don't play with my toys and don't pee in my pot".
Then we will settle down and surrender Transcaucasia.

[maiman61]

But you also need to be friends with brains! In Armenia, Soros NGOs are preparing a color revolution in Russia. Armenian politics, pure Russophobia! Armenia is Caucasian Ukraine in relation to Russia! Look at the map, Armenia has captured at least five purely Azerbaijani regions. As a result, 350 Azerbaijani refugees left for Azerbaijan.

[Livonetc]

Of course you need to be friends with brains.
You can not rush into the bushes lamenting how fickle they are.
We have strategic interests there.
Russia and all sorts of Soros and Soros are incommensurable concepts.
Such rubbish must be crushed, but squeezed out wisely and systematically.

[mikh-korsakov]

With the mind - how is it? So far, Russia has failed to show anything in the post-Soviet space that would indicate effective squeezing out of rubbish. Ukraine is not an example? Here is the dad - well done - he squeezes out effectively. Back in the nineties, he got into trouble with the Americans about the location of their embassy near his residence. Those rested. So dad turned off the sewer for them. They understood this and moved out. Fu, how ugly, and most importantly, unplanned, they say, but effective. Now Lithuania has resisted reducing its embassy. Will make you run for water in neighboring houses and go to a public toilet - they will understand. Although I agree, the step will not be European at all.

[Livonetc]

I agree.
So far, the reverse pulling up of the allies of the times of the USSR is going on with difficulty.

[maiman61]

I agree! But Azerbaijanis will fix their brains faster! Do you think why Azerbaijan started the war so dashingly? We understood that we were not going to harness ourselves for the pro-Matrasov power in Armenia !!!

[Kapany3]

I would be silent already about the heroism of Azarov ... We saw your martyrs (not in Karabakh)

[maiman61]

idiot! I am from Russia, and I am categorically against our boys dying for all sorts of devils, no matter how they call themselves!

[K-612-O]

And what has Armenia to do with it? You just need to recognize the statehood of A * rtsakh and pull out the Gustin peace treaty, which, by the way, has not lost its legal force. And immediately the brains of the bearded gnome and Aliyev will turn on.

[perm23]

and Azerbaijan is just a pro-Russian region so loves mother Russia who gave them everything. Stupidity, why write. What are you that Armenians are just looking for someone to sell and someone to milk.

[Retvizan 8]

I see not all of your sarcasm is understood.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Livonetc

Now the question is in providing ammunition.
Azerbaijan will most likely have fewer problems with this.

Does Turkey have a common border with Azerbaijan? Here Iran will rule everything. As he wants - so it will be. Georgia has climbed in, does not provide a corridor for our aviation (according to rumors). Will Iran help Armenians? I do not know. But the Turks will definitely not be!

[Alena-Baku]

Russia does not need Armenia soon it will not be in the CSTO in its place will be Azerbaijan and there Turkey will leave NATO. This is how the vector changes.

[Livonetc]

Alena, Hello!
Russia will not surrender Armenia in principle.
Russia will cover the territory of Armenia to the best of its ability.
But with regard to Karabakh, Russia will maintain strict neutrality.
Azerbaijan is a friendly state to Russia.
The same applies to Russia to Azerbaijan.

[Alena-Baku]

I will not argue, but I see the picture so Armenia will lose Karabakh, there will be an agreement between NGOs and joint patrols between Russia and Turkey. And the authorities, more loyal to Russia, will return to Armenia.

[Livonetc]

There is no point in arguing.
We are all just making our assumptions.
I fully admit that Armenia will leave Karabakh.
However, Azerbaijan will need to take extraordinary measures to prevent the exodus of the Armenian part of the population of Karabakh.
Otherwise, Azerbaijan will face long-term and serious sanctions that could severely cripple the economy.
And then the consequences are unpredictable.
As for the arrival of the authorities loyal to Russia in Armenia, I strongly doubt it.
Rather, they will rebuild the vector even more towards the west in case of loss of Karabakh.
Exclusively my guess and feeling from modern Armenia.

[Alena-Baku]

to rebuild the vector will not work the blockade by Turkey and Azerbaijan, no one has canceled and Iran has nothing to do but obey Russia.

[K-612-O]

You are serious, so that Iran generally listens to someone, this is heavy nonsense. Iran is more likely to suit you with a Shiite coup, the Sunni Aliyev does not imply Iran at all, and so for a second there are 2 times more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan, there is a resource and there are ways to swing the situation. This scenario is more likely, and in this scenario, Iranian oil will quickly legalize and become "Baku"

[Alena-Baku]

how do you imagine a religious revolution in a secular state?

[maiman61]

That's right, but Russia will squeeze Turkey out of this region. Azerbaijan is a friendly state to Russia and we will find a common language on patrolling Armenian Karabakh, and other regions will return to Azerbaijan, Peace will come when all parties will benefit!

[perm23]

You yourself believe in such tales

[Livonetc]

Either way and it is Georgia.
Turkey has a border with Georgia.
Georgia has Azerbaijan.
Turkey is firmly entrenched in Georgia.
Huge funds have been invested.
And politically Georgians cannot even condemn Azerbaijan with Georgia's problems similar to Azerbaijan.
So one axis looms Turkey Azerbaijan Georgia.
The second is Armenia and Iran, we'll see who else gets involved.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Livonetc

Turkey is firmly entrenched in Georgia.

Adzharia is being squeezed out of Georgia with a "sly glan", and it won't even jump, because there is nothing. Turks invest a lot of money there. And they buy real estate there.

[Livonetc]

It is difficult to say whether they will be squeezed out as a sidebar to their own territory.
Rather, Georgia will be completely undermined and the borders will be left intact.
However, the fate of Turkey's regional dominance in this region is still unknown.

[the finish]

Georgia, on the other hand, lets through military cargo for Azerbaijan, even provides police escorts. Such mean behavior of Georgia does not fit into my head.

[Revival]

And why is it mean?
Are they in alliance with Armenia and betrayed it?

[maktub]

Pashinyan said that, if necessary, he will use the resources of 102 bases

[Livonetc]

Quote: maktub

Pashinyan said that, if necessary, he will use the resources of 102 bases

Will use it.
But only for the defense of Armenia itself.
No more.

[Yeraz]

They are trying to get an answer on the cities directly in armenia in order to involve Russia.

[maktub]

Baku stated that since the strike was delivered from the territory of Armenia, an adequate response will follow. THC

[donavi49]

Apparently, they threw half a packet-package of the Tornado.

[Asad]

Can you please tell me what a half-packet of a tornado is? I would not like to find this thing in the garden! Sorry, no time for jokes there!

[donavi49]

Part of this:

Azerbaijanis write 6 missiles arrived by the way.

[Asad]

How accurate is this thing?

[Pechkin]

This is a tornado. And half a packet means half of the ammunition was fired at a time (6 missiles).

[Asad]

Thank you very much!

[Mikhail Alexandrov]

Possibly "Polonaise"

[donavi49]

polonaise on the other hand, but they also prefer the classics there. They threw the Tornado into Stepanakert in response.

[TatarinSSSR]

I don’t believe non-Armenian, non-Azerbaijani reports. The very case when everyone lies, but people really die.

[maiman61]

In war, everyone lies, that's why it is war!

[Alena-Baku]

The leader of the unrecognized NKR, Arayik Harutyunyan, announced the start of attacks on Azerbaijani cities with military targets. And this is not terrorism by accident? You cannot strike at civilian objects and civilians. Unfortunately, it is impossible to completely avoid this in the course of hostilities. But the official declaration of readiness to strike at cities is already crossing the red line. The Hague - definitely.

[Mikhail Alexandrov]

Come on with your hague .... who was she judging?

[Alena-Baku]

and that's right ...

[Stavros]

Hi Zeinab.) Do you mean to say that you can strike at civilians, but Armenians cannot?

[Alena-Baku]

I want to remind you about Article 208 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. And I am glad that you acknowledge the attacks on civilians.

[ashot1973]

Hello Alena.
And nothing that VS Az. for the 5th day they have been bombing the NKR capital Stepanakert, on the civilian population and infrastructures of almost all NKR cities, on the buildings of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, on schools and hospitals ???
So Baku has long crossed the red line ...
The NKR leadership calls on the population of Azerbaijan to leave the front-line settlements, since it is mainly artillery and MLRS of the AZ Armed Forces. fire while in the same settlements.

[Alena-Baku]

Ashot Jan strikes at the occupants, another question is what is the Armenian soldier doing there? Karabakh is recognized by the whole world the territory of Azerbaijan

[ashot1973]

hitting the occupants

- If it seems to you that the Armenians living in the cities of Stepanakert, Hadrut, Martuni, Martakert, who have been bombing the Armed Forces of Az for 7 days, the invaders are evil or deliberately mistaken ... or you are simply not aware of what is happening ...

[maiman61]

Sorry! I'm not for those and not for these! BUT! Azerbaijan hits its territory !!! There is a difference?

[Stils]

Stepanakert is also being hammered with rockets. By the way, the city where people live. Here is the answer and flew in.

[TAMBU]

These are the shelling ...

[Olezhek]

Armenians, by and large, have nothing to lose ...

[iouris]

Quote: Olezhek

Armenians, by and large, have nothing to lose ...

Everybody what?

[Livonetc]

Apparently to those who live in Karabakh.
However, they also have something to lose and for this they will stand to the end.

[Old26]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Does Turkey have a common border with Azerbaijan? Here Iran will rule everything. As he wants - so it will be. Georgia has climbed in, does not provide a corridor for our aviation (according to rumors). Will Iran help Armenians? I do not know. But the Turks will definitely not be!

But the same Georgia can provide a corridor, and not only an air corridor for the transfer of ammunition and equipment from Turkey to Azerbaijan, if necessary ...

Quote: finish

Georgia, on the other hand, lets through military cargo for Azerbaijan, even provides police escorts. Such mean behavior of Georgia does not fit into my head.

Vile in relation to whom? Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia?

[the finish]

Of course the brotherly neighbor of Armenia? Once you proclaimed neutrality, then observe it, and not shit under the door!

[Sovkovy]

What other brother? An Armenian brother to a Georgian?

[Essex62]

It was like that in the USSR. Kikabidze and Mkrtchan portrayed it well in the film "Mimino". Not brothers, but not enemies either. With Azeris, both have always enmity. Even on foreign territory, in Moscow, they were constantly gushing in the markets and in hotels. At Altai-Zarya - Vostok, in the north-east of the capital, where they were especially densely populated by special - a police department had to be created.

[nobody75]

There are much more dire consequences of shelling Ganja than the (non) destruction of a military air base. This is panic among the civilian population of the city! Refugees will flee and carry the covid through the back streets ... The fact that Aliyev was counting on the blitzkrieg is supported by the medical fact that not only did he not bother with tetra missile defense, but also did not create a simple civil defense system ...

[nobody75]

Sorry, theatrical PRO

[yfast]

Quote: ASAD

I completely agree with you, the most disgusting thing is that the civilian population is dying in both Karabakh and Ukraine.

Does it fly from Karabakh to Ukraine?

[Stavros]

Quote: Otshelnik

But where will they go ... unless back to India, to their camp ... your anger is like a balm on the soul)

Again I propose to the glorious Kavtatar Kim marshals to gather in the teahouse, and finally decide where the Armenians came from, the options are India, the Balkans or Persia.

[Stavros]

Quote: finish

Georgia, on the other hand, lets through military cargo for Azerbaijan, even provides police escorts. Such mean behavior of Georgia does not fit into my head.

Georgians have long been under the Turks, they call each other brothers.

[Stavros]

Quote: Alena-Baku

I want to remind you about Article 208 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. And I am glad that you acknowledge the attacks on civilians.

Zeinab, I don't need to remind you of anything, I asked you a simple question, and you are bringing me articles from the Criminal Code. You have been bombing civilians every day, how do you think the Armenians should react?

[ashot1973]

It was a warning fire. Today the President of the NKR reported on TV and called on the population of Azerbaijan to leave the b / d zone ...

[Shahno]

In general, Armenians are storytellers in life ... I think this virus has also infected more solid structures ...

[Stavros]

Quote: finish

Since the world community has been pretending for a week that nothing is happening, then it is still necessary to jump along the oil pipeline and gas pipeline

I can imagine how then I will start to blow up farts of Cavtatars and Turkophiles

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Lesorub

Quote: Fungus

Dot Y that they shied away

From Point Y there would be a big funnel and these houses are in ruins (and there are partial destruction)

Warhead 9H123 high-explosive fragmentation 163 kg of explosives with 14.5 thousand fragments. Covers an area up to 3 hectares.
Warhead 9H123K cluster fragmentation projectile with 50 submunitions of 7.5 kg each. covers up to 7 hectares.
So about the funnel, this is greatly exaggerated, Point U works on areas, high-altitude detonation.

9N39 nuclear warhead 10 CT
9N64 nuclear warhead 200 KT.

[Vadim237]

Here the question arises: what is the state of the TochkaU missile in the Armenian Armed Forces?

[Sovkovy]

And the Armenian barbecue leader said that the airport in Ganja was shot down

[Livonetc]

How do you put it strangely.
Indeed, there was a missile attack on the airport area.
However, the scale of the damage has not yet been revealed to the general public.

[Sovkovy]

The airport is still operating. I called a relative in Ganja and asked for it. 7 rockets fell into residential areas. The Armenian side is lying and does not become impudent. Every day they write about downed planes and there is still not a single breakdown.

[Livonetc]

I understood you so.
Dull aggressive Armenian missiles chaotic fall exclusively on peaceful neighborhoods.
Even more stupid Armenian anti-aircraft systems regularly smear past the valiant Azerbaijani falcons, piloting or unmanned.
In general, as the journalist Tymchuk liked to say, NO LOSS.
If you know of course this famous character in Ukraine.

[ism_ek]

The airport has been closed since spring due to the pandemic

[Otshelnik]

Just now ... Dzhabrail was released !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Solo2503]

Where is it? And then I remember the map of the Caucasus from the time of the Soviet school. And a lot of water has flown under the bridge since then ...

[Otshelnik]

Border with Iran ... southern front

[Sovkovy]

Ilham Aliyev announced the release of Jabrayil
4 October 2020, 16:41 | 11855 views
Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev announced the release of Jebrail.

“Today the Azerbaijani army has liberated the city of Jebrail and several villages from occupation. Long live the Azerbaijani army! Karabakh is Azerbaijan, ”the message says.

(@azpresident) October 4, 2020

[ashot1973]

Ilham Aliyev announced the release of Jabrayil

- and in the morning they announced the capture of the Armenian village of Madagis ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_GxgysQBrE&feature=emb_rel_end
Here are the footage where the Azerbaijani invincible army flees from the battlefield near Madagis and is destroyed by the NKR defense army.

[Adimius38]

Azerbaijan must understand that it will fly to them. These Azerbaijani Turks, as they call themselves, are still confident that they have no losses, and only Armenians are fleeing and perishing. They dance and dance in Baku, but only the Armenians are dying, this is how they were brainwashed by local propaganda.

[Sovkovy]

The Armenians had to understand what would come to them. Until yesterday, these Armenians, who call themselves haimi, were sure that "if you start again, we will only stop in Baku." This is how they were brainwashed by the propaganda about "Great Armenia from sea to sea".

[Livonetc]

You are the heirs of the glory of the great Ottomans.
Where are they to you.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Artura

And you don't worry if it goes on like this soon there will be Armenians in Baku !!!!!! You watch more video from the front as your rams run away from the battlefield)))))))

Here are the folks ... you are being dunked in ... now. Pashinyan humiliatingly calls everyone every day 5 times, howling into the phone. So no, all the same puff, swagger, threaten. Sick people in one word.

[Vadim237]

Considering how the Armenians equip their positions and fight, they are all suicides.

[Stavros]

Quote: Bakinec

Do not believe it. Do you believe shun Hovhannisyan who has already destroyed 14 planes, 14 helicopters and an uncountable number of Turkish f16

Is it possible to trust your starball Ilham?

[mark021105]

To destroy this airfield, you need a massive bomb strike, or missile ...

[Severok]

If all the resources and funds spent on arms and wars in the 20th century were directed to feed the hungry and provide for the poor, then there would be no hungry in the world at all, just as there would be no poor. But, wars and weapons are needed by those Kaschenki patients who are in power in every country in the world and who cannot stop hoarding gold and enjoying power. These mentally ill people dictate the rules of life to the world and destroy the planet Earth, turning it into hard currency.

[Stavros]

Quote: maiman61

Sorry! I'm not for those and not for these! BUT! Azerbaijan hits its territory !!! There is a difference

I root for the Russian population of Donbass with all my heart. BUT! Ukraine beats on its territory !!! There is a difference.
So, in your opinion, it turns out that the Russian people from the DPR and LPR, as well as the Armenians of Artsakh, do not have the right to self-defense? What should they wait until they are cut out? How strange you are arguing.

[Stavros]

Quote: Bakinec

Do not worry about them, the Armenians, citizens of Azerbaijan, after de-occupation of territories, can return to their homes and live in peace.

Do you yourself believe what you write or consider people to be fools?

[Scorpio05]

Quote: sevryuk

What about the legality of the withdrawal of the AzSSR from the Soviet Union?

And where does the Azerbaijan SSR? In a referendum in Azerbaijan, about 90% of the population voted to stay in the USSR. Unlike the Armenian SSR, where the majority voted to leave. All claims to the sweet couple M. Gorbachev and B. Yeltsin did everything to ruin the USSR, and put an end to Belovezhskaya Pushcha. Not a single Azerbaijani was present in these parts when the decision to dissolve the USSR was made. It was there that they decided to "close" the USSR. You are always looking for the causes of your problems in others, as if hundreds of thousands of Azerbaijanis were demonstrating in support of B. Yeltsin, or M. Gorbachev was from Lankaran))

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Ragnar lodbrok

Azerbaijani army takes punitive measures

How do they then differ from the fascists?

Don't give up, Armenians.

Are you talking nonsense again? Do you specialize? The fact that, unlike Armenians, children and women are not massively executed (as in the Azerbaijani cities and villages occupied by the Armenians: Khojaly, Karadagly, Aghdaban, Mesheli, etc.), and the fact that they are fighting for the liberation of their native land from the invaders who do not want to leave for 30 years

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Stavros

Quote: maiman61

Sorry! I'm not for those and not for these! BUT! Azerbaijan hits its territory !!! There is a difference

I root for the Russian population of Donbass with all my heart. BUT! Ukraine beats on its territory !!! There is a difference.
So, in your opinion, it turns out that the Russian people from the DPR and LPR, as well as the Armenians of Artsakh, do not have the right to self-defense? What should they wait until they are cut out? How strange you are arguing.

For self-defense, this is almost 8 thousand km. occupied Azerbaijani land? This is outside Nagorno-Karabakh. Areas inhabited exclusively by Azerbaijanis before the Armenian occupation. What were you against the right to self-defense of the "poor" Germans in Smolensk, Stalingrad or Sevastopol? It's not good, somehow inhumane ...

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Livonetc

Let's take offense at Armenia, say "don't play with my toys and don't pee in my pot".
Then we will settle down and surrender Transcaucasia.

No, let's for the Armenian interests to the last Russian soldier ... And then the Armenians will again burn the Russian flags, die out everyone in the Russian Federation, post a banner: "Russians out of Armenia. Some kind of sadomasochism. Are you Russian? Haes ara?"