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Anti-government protests in Bulgaria called "the fourth great popular uprising"

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The protest action in Bulgaria, called the fourth Great People's Uprising, took place yesterday in Sofia without escalation, but was accompanied by an increased police presence. Law enforcement officers carefully checked the protesters for the presence of prohibited items.


Reported by the Bulgarian news portal Novinite.com.

Some of the protesters were banned from participating in the action. One of them, for example, because of the eggs he tried to throw at the police.

The police blocked the streets leading to the Independence Square, where the protesters gathered, and also cordoned off the parliament and government buildings.

The action started at about 17.00. Several thousand people took part in it, including those who came from other cities in Bulgaria. They demanded the resignation of Chief Prosecutor Ivan Geshev and the government of Boyko Borisov, as well as early parliamentary elections.

The demonstrators proceeded to the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral, and then, after 10 pm, headed to the Eagle Bridge. There, one of the protesters climbed into a traffic light and waved the Bulgarian flag from there.

Protests took place in other cities of the country as well. As the organizers called, the action was peaceful.

Mass protests, called the fourth Great Popular Uprising, have been going on in Bulgaria for 87 days.

Previous Great Popular Uprisings probably refer to three events from stories country. The first was the anti-Turkish uprising in 1876. The second was raised by the Bulgarian communists in 1923, and the third took place in 1944 and was directed against the fascists. Recall that the Bulgarian authorities at the first stage of World War II sided with Nazi Germany.

At the same time, today's protesters consider any appearance on the streets to be a "Great Popular Uprising", assigning the appropriate numbering. According to their classification, the "previous Great Uprising" was at the end of September of the same year.
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  1. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 4 October 2020 13: 02 New
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    What is the protest against?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 4 October 2020 13: 17 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      What is the protest against

      If I'm not mistaken then
      They demanded the resignation of Chief Prosecutor Ivan Geshev and the government of Boyko Borisov, as well as early parliamentary elections.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 October 2020 14: 42 New
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        Quote: Lipchanin
        If I'm not mistaken then
        They demanded the resignation of Chief Prosecutor Ivan Geshev and the government of Boyko Borisov, as well as early parliamentary elections.

        Those. SAME as in Belarus. And much longer than in Belarus.

        AND WHERE are the EU and US sanctions against the "illegitimate" dictator Borisov, where are their demands for the transfer of power to the protesters?

        Ah ... nothing! There is not even any press in the West about this.

        For there is YOUR skin son.
        1. Bagatur
          Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 17 New
          -8
          Borisov is legally a premium! He is not a lifelong dad like Lukashenka and your Putin.
        2. Bagatur
          Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 21 New
          +9
          Tired of corruption and rudeness Borisov and the entire political class. Another deco is the prosecutor's office, it is in the service of the oligarchy and politics. For 30 years, not a single corruptionist has been imprisoned.
        3. pytar
          pytar 4 October 2020 17: 44 New
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          Those. SAME as in Belarus. And much longer than in Belarus.

          Protests in Bulgaria They have NOTHING similar to Belarusian! Different reasons, different reactions of the protesters and the authorities! About the reasons and some features of the protests, the text is further:

          first - The European Union has long criticized the Bulgarian authorities for their inability to cope with corruption! Recently, the Borisov government has finally tackled the problem by appointing a new chief prosecutor, Geshev. He immediately rushed into battle, and investigations of the oligarchs began. Among them is the richest in Bulgaria - Vasila Bozhkov. His fortune is estimated at $ 5 billion. According to the prosecutor's office, Bozhkov has been replaced in contract killings, rekets, corruption and much more. Moreover, Bozhkov has strong ties with Russian structures, this is not a secret.
          Oligarch Vasil Bozhkov

          Chief Prosecutor Ivan Geshev

          In the meantime, Vasil Bozhkov fled to the Emitars and from there he leads one part of the protesters. The prosecutor's office published telephone records from the last conversation between Bozhkov and his curators in Bulgaria. By the way, Geshev also tried to conduct an investigation of President Rumen Radev, but it did not give results.
          -------------------------------------------
          Second - In Bulgaria, the opposition is always strong, and the governing bodies change frequently. The main opposition force is the Bulgarian Socialist Party / BSP-former BKP /. The current president is Radev, from her. Seeing how the situation is developing, the BPS decided to use it and try to remove the government of Borisov, who is from the ruling party GERB / ​​Citizens for the European Development of Bulgaria /.
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          The third - The role was played by a long-term personal uncleanness between Premier Boyko Borisov / from the ruling GERB / ​​and President Rumen Radev / from the opposition BSP /. Wallpaper of strong personality, with hardening.

          At first, they somehow got along, but incriminating evidence was published against Radev, in connection with the ego's petition for the appointment of his wife to work. Desislava has a second wife and Radev is clearly very sensitive on such topics. Radev accused Borisov of being behind the compromising evidence.

          Somewhat later, incriminating evidence was published against Borisov! Photos from the ego's bedroom, as he sleeps, and next to them on stools, a pistol, a wad of money and gold. The hint was that here is Borisov mafiot! To which he replied that only people with a clear conscience sleep as calmly as he does.

          The confrontation between these two gentlemen has moved from political to personal! Radev reinforced the protesters.
          ---------------------------------------------
          Fourth - The Borisov government, during the initial stage of the covid-19 epidemic, imposed strict restrictive mayors! In addition, we launched a financial assistance program in this regard. Borisov's rating skyrocketed and showed record figures! And President Radev criticized mayors, and neto's rating fell sharply. This worked for several months. Then people sat at home and began to discontent! The quarantine regime was lifted, the incidence increased, but people no longer wanted to listen to the government! Their discontent spilled over into the streets! Psychological factor has worked!
          ---------------------------------------------
          Fifth - Due to the corona virus, many young Bulgarians, students and workers in the West, have returned to the country. The current level of democracy seems to them insufficient. After all, they can compare. And that part of the protesters demand more democracy, respect for civil and social rights, as in developed Western countries! In fact, this is a rally in support of the EU!
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          Sixth - Borisov and the ego party GERB ruled for the longest period in the new history of Bulgaria. This is the third time the premier. Despite the very good economic results achieved during the ego reign, people are already fed up with it. Even the very best ruler, after what time gets bored. Boyko Borisov is aware of this fact. He declares his consent to apply for abandonment ahead of schedule, but under certain conditions. The question here is how expedient it is, since the next elections will be in 2021 and soon the voters will be able to say who they want in power. Borisov himself will probably no longer be subscribed to the prize even if the GERB is victorious.
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          Seventh - In Bulgaria, governments and rulers quite often lose power as a result of civil protests. The current premier himself, Borisov, has already submitted it twice. Other premiers from both the government and from the opposition also applied when they were in power. During previous protests, one of the protesters was injured. He later appeared on central television channels with a bandaged head and accused the police of abuse of rights! The next day, Borisov, having assumed responsibility for the actions of the police, apologized and resigned. The people appreciated the gesture, and in the next elections the GERB won again, and Borisov became a clear premier.
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          Eighth - The current protests in Bulgaria, in no comparison in terms of the mass character of Belarusians, do not match. The GERB also has electoral support, although at the same time 60% of the population supports the protesters. Here's a paradox. In Bulgaria people often test, this is normal, and the Bulgarian political system does not give anyone a monopoly over power. There is a competitive principle, which is very cool! good

          AND WHERE are the EU and US sanctions against the "illegitimate" dictator Borisov, where are their demands for the transfer of power to the protesters? And ... nothing! There is not even any press in the West about this.

          You Andrey are using one of the Ross. propaganda suggestions! Borisov is legitimate, he did not falsify the elections, he does not have even a small part of the power that Luke has! Western countries, the USA, the EU criticize Borisov, they support the fair demands of the testers! There are a lot of critical publications in the Western media on this occasion! In the Bulgarian media, every day a variety of opinions abound - both for those who support the protests and those who are against.

          Those who have strengthened this text will hopefully get the most complete picture of what has happened in Bulgaria today. hi
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 October 2020 18: 55 New
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            Quote: pytar
            You Andrey are using one of the Ross. propaganda suggestions!

            Do not talk nonsense, this is my personal observation, I do not live in Russia at all
            Quote: pytar
            Borisov is legitimate,

            Learn, finally, WHAT is "legitimacy and what is" legality "
            Quote: pytar
            The USA, the EU criticize Borisov, they support the fair demands of the testers! There are a lot of critical publications in the Western media on this occasion!

            WHERE sanctions against Borisov, WHERE are the EU decisions, statements by Merkel, Macron, Poipeo-on the table them!

            No?

            So WHAT are you talking about then?

            The protest is the SAME: both there and there they demand a REQUEST and NEW elections, but there is neither one nor the other.

            But in one case, the persecution of the legitimate president, in yours, on the contrary!

            What's not clear?!
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 19 New
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              So you are trying to make the sweetest confusion, the comparison of situations in BG and RB is completely incorrect, Borisov exercises his powers within the framework of his term on a legal basis, Mr. Lukashenko could not be re-elected for a new term, his people did not recognize, but this is the main difference
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 5 October 2020 05: 51 New
                +2
                Quote: Vadim_888
                , Mr. Lukashenko could not be re-elected for a new term, his people did not recognize, this is the main difference

                You are who to for the people speak?

                No onedon't forget about it ..

                ALL procedures under the Constitution have been observed: there are decisions of the CEC, Court, Parliament: the elections took place, the majority voted for Lukashenka.
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 5 October 2020 08: 30 New
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                  ... ALL procedures under the Constitution have been followed: there are decisions of the CEC, Court, Parliament: the elections took place, the majority voted for Lukashenka.
                  If the people recognized Lukashenka, it would not have come out against him to protest 100000 a day, and this is only in Minsk, the world has become much smaller thanks to the Internet.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 5 October 2020 09: 09 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Vadim_888
                    If the people recognized Lukashenka, it would not have come out against him to protest 100000 a day, and this is only in Minsk, the world has become much smaller thanks to the Internet.

                    100000 shouters "against" is NOTHING compared to millions of silent FOR and their votes are worth no less than protestors
                    1. Vadim_888
                      Vadim_888 5 October 2020 09: 58 New
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                      You are apparently one of the silent for the inhabitants of Belarus? If not, then it's not for you to decide who their president is for the Belarusians.
                    2. Izotron 3-150
                      Izotron 3-150 6 October 2020 07: 32 New
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                      Where did you see-millions "For" !!! ???)
            2. pytar
              pytar 4 October 2020 20: 31 New
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              this is my personal observation, I do not live in Russia at all

              Okay, take the note! yes
              Learn finally WHAT is "legitimacy and what is "legality"

              I know perfectly well what is the difference between the two concepts! You oh LEGITIMITY are you writing? Here is your text:
              AND WHERE are the EU and US sanctions against "illegitimate"dictator Borisov, where their demands for the transfer of power

              Here is my answer:
              Borisov legitimate, he did not rig the elections ...

              Bulgaria is a parliamentary republic! The Premier is elected by the Parliament! You don't know what you are talking about at all! By the way, President Radev, from the opposition! We elect the President directly, as in Belarus! When the candidate of the ruling GERB party lost the elections, Radev was the first to be congratulated by opponents and Borisov himself! Do you feel the difference with what is happening in Belarus?

              WHERE are the sanctions against Borisov, WHERE are the EU decisions, statements by Merkel, Macron, Popeo-on their table!

              The Internet is open! Look, you will probably be surprised yourself and stop fantasizing - the rallies just broke out after the EU criticized the Borisov government for corruption! Here is a screen, with part of the preprints in the Bulgarian media from the West, with the reaction of the EU and the EC to Borisov and the protests in Bulgaria!



              We do not have censorship, and the EU is reacting more and more sharply! Here is the publication / 04.10.2020 / according to the latest report of the EC and the European Parliament! It says there:

              "The report of the European Commission and the draft resolution of the European Parliament this week caused a great resonance in Bulgaria. In the report, the committee expressed its views on the rule of law in 27 member countries, and the draft resolution lists all the scandals in the country last year, and calls for continuation monitoring judicial reform and combating corruption through cooperation and verification, and in parallel with a new mechanism that controls all countries. "

              The European Union is working! That is why one of the main demands of the protesters is for the authorities to bring the Bulgarian realities to European norms!





              So WHAT are you talking about then? The protest is the SAME: both here and there they are demanding FORCE and NEW elections, but there is neither one nor the other. But in one case, the persecution of the legitimate president, in yours, the opposite!
              What's not clear?!

              I say how it is! Our elections went well, no one has any complaints about the legitimacy of the prime minister or the president! There are claims to the quality of government management! That it does not cope with the tasks! And Borisov may well apply for leave, he has already done this 2 times! And there were pseudo-elections in Belarus! The very legitimacy of Lukashenka is in question! There are protests against fraudulent elections, and the usurpation of power in an illegal way! And our police officers don't wear balaclavas! Clear?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 5 October 2020 06: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: pytar
                Here is my answer:
                Borisov is legitimate, he did not rig the elections ...

                Bulgaria is a parliamentary republic! The Premier is elected by the Parliament! You do not understand what you are talking about at all

                Learn:
                Legitimacy (from Lat. Legitimus "agree with the laws, legal, lawful") - the consent of the majority of the people with the government, its voluntary recognition of its right to make binding decisions.

                Most of the people, as you say, are against. Means-NONLITIMEN, But legally-LEGAL.
                Have you learned?

                Quote: pytar
                Radev was the first to be congratulated by his opponents and Borisov himself! Do you feel the difference with what is happening in Belarus?

                You DO NOT sense what I said, AGAIN for a tanker:
                The protests are THE SAME: both here and there demand resignation and NEW elections, but there is neither one nor the other.


                But in one case -persecution of legitimate president, in your-on the contrary!
                Quote: pytar
                The Internet is open! Look, you will probably be surprised yourself and stop fantasizing -

                Stop pouring water and submit STATEMENTS by MERKEL, MARCONA, POMPEO about the protests in Bulgaria, as with the protests in Belarus and SANCTIONS against Borisov and K for corruption, NON-repudiation, etc.

                Can't ?, No, you can't!
                Quote: pytar
                "The report of the European Commission and the draft resolution of the European Parliament this week caused a great resonance in Bulgaria. In the report, the committee expressed its views on the rule of law in 27 member countries, and the draft resolution lists all the scandals in the country last year, and calls for continuation monitoring judicial reform and combating corruption through cooperation and verification, and in parallel with a new mechanism that controls all countries. "

                The European Union is working!

                What do you LIE to your face, what kind of work? Is this chatter job?
                WHERE are the specific SANCTIONS, and not this empty chatter?
                Quote: pytar
                I say how it is! Our elections went well, no one has any complaints about the legitimacy of the prime minister or the president! There are claims to the quality of government management! That it does not cope with the tasks! And Borisov may well apply for retirement

                Borisov is not retired, the demands of the protestors have not been fulfilled, and there are NO sanctions for this.
                Quote: pytar
                And there were pseudo-elections in Belarus!

                Who decided this? Who are you?

                The court, the CEC and the PARLIAMENT-recognized the elections-on the opinion of the LIEUCE and hypocritical West-do not care.

                In Moldova, he brought bandits, thieves, and murderers to power 11 years ago, supported and fed them. The main thing was that they were for the EU and against Russia, for this EVERYTHING was forgiven them.
                Quote: pytar
                There are protests against fraudulent elections, and the usurpation of power in an illegal way!

                The court did not recognize any falsifications. Dissatisfied - to the COURT! And there are no appeals.
                Quote: pytar
                And our police officers don't wear balaclavas! Clear?

                Don't give a damn what your cops wear. Clear?
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 5 October 2020 08: 40 New
                  -1
                  .
                  The court, the CEC and the PARLIAMENT-recognized the election-on the opinion of the LIEUCE and hypocritical West-do not care

                  In the absence of democracy, the courts lose their independence and cease to fulfill their direct functions. The parliament is also not elected by the people, but appointed - this is all Monsieur PRAFONATION OF THE ELECTIONS, even observers were not allowed there, so do not try to powder the brains of people and speak only for yourself
                2. pytar
                  pytar 5 October 2020 11: 58 New
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                  I give you specific facts and explanations for each line, and you, like a broken glass record, twist the same thing! Do not listen, do not understand! And leave your edifying tone at home!
                  Most of the people, as you say, are against. Means-NONLITIMEN, But legally-LEGAL. Have you learned?

                  At the rallies in Sofia, no more than 5-6 thousand are released, and even less. The maximum was only one day, approx. 30 thousand. Borisov is both legal and legitimate! There are claims to his work, and to the work of the government! In the given case, he decides to leave or not. The law does not oblige him. This decision remains until next year's elections. He doesn't break the law in any way.
                  You DO NOT sense what I said, AGAIN for a tanker:

                  Get out of the tank, take off your headset, and look around! The world is completely different from what you see from the sights!
                  The protests are THE SAME: both here and there demand resignation and NEW elections, but there is neither one nor the other. But in one case, the persecution of the legitimate president, in yours, on the contrary!

                  Borisov has already applied for leave 2 times! Lukashenka how many times? Borisov was selected in strict accordance with the Law, which is recognized by his opponents! Lukashenka himself drew a fantastic 80%! What is the difference, because there is a law in Bulgaria and Belarus? The law, that is, but is it observed, is proved only if there are representatives of the opposition at all stages of the electoral process! We have a lot, at all levels, all participants have their representatives! Together they count the votes, it is impossible to draw something there, I myself have participated many times in the commissions! In Belarus, there is no such thing! Everything is done in the dark there! Oppositions were not allowed anywhere! Where is the guarantee that everything is honest and correct?
                  ..submit the STATEMENTS of MERKEL, MARCONA, POMPEO about the protests in Bulgaria, as with the protests in Belarus and SANCTIONS against Borisov and K - for corruption, non-repudiation, etc. sanctions for that.

                  Statements of. there are EU and US faces, they are public. You don't know anything about what happened! Observers from the EU and other international organizations are present at all elections in Bulgaria. The elections were free and open! Borisov is in power on legal grounds, recognized by the European Union and all other countries! On the topic of corruption, the judicial system, etc. The EC and the European Parliament are constantly monitoring! Violations are recorded and a report with a recommendation is issued! The last one came out recently! The government has a deadline on removing the notes! In case of non-compliance, restrictions may follow from the EU side! The whole mechanism is precisely spelled out and everything is clear with it!
                  Belarus is not a member of the EU, and Lukashenka "won" with very dubious vague machinations! The EU is taking a different approach to it, appropriate to the situation there!
                  Who decided this? Who are you? The court, the CEC and the PARLIAMENT-recognized the elections-on the opinion of the LIEUCE and hypocritical West-do not care.

                  Representatives of the opposition were not allowed in the electoral process! Yes, it is phenomenal kureosis - Tsypkala did not recognize several tens of thousands of signatures, and the other was "recognized" as much more than he collected himself! The man turned out to be honest and said that he did not have so many signatures, no !!! Fraud at all levels! They "counted" in closed votes, only Lukashevists in these commissions! Hundreds of thousands are wiped out, and they are beaten and put in paddy wagons and mocked! This is an election, this is a parody!
                  The court did not recognize any falsifications. Dissatisfied - to the COURT! And there are no appeals.

                  And who will appoint the judge? Have you read the law on the judicial system in Belarus? All judges, at all levels, are personally appointed by Lukashenka! What kind of an independent judicial system, what kind of judge can we talk about then?
                  Don't give a damn what your cops wear. Clear?

                  One thing is clear - you don't understand anything! You have not the slightest idea of ​​reality!
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 5 October 2020 21: 06 New
                    0
                    Quote: pytar
                    I give you specific facts and explanations for each line, and you, like a broken glass record, twist the same thing! Do not listen, do not understand! And leave your edifying tone at home!

                    I don't need your empty TALKER.
                    Quote: pytar
                    At the rallies in Sofia, no more than 5-6 thousand are released, and even less. The maximum was only one day, approx. 30 thousand

                    Then what are the protests in Belarus, where is 1 (one!)% Against? Never mind!
                    Quote: pytar
                    There are claims to his work, and to the work of the government! In the given case, he decides to leave or not. The law does not oblige him.

                    The 4th Great Bulgarian National Assembly demanded the resignation of Borisov.

                    WHY did you not leave ?!
                    WHERE is the West's demand to transfer power to the protestors ?!
                    Quote: pytar
                    Get out of the tank, take off your headset, and look around! The world is completely different from what you see from the sights!

                    This is the statement of a TANKIST looking through the gap
                    Quote: pytar
                    Lukashenka himself drew a fantastic 80%!

                    LIES.

                    COURTS 'SOLUTIONS - ON THE TABLE, not chatter!
                    Quote: pytar
                    In Belarus, there is no such thing! Everything is done in the dark there! Oppositions were not allowed anywhere! Where is the guarantee that everything is honest and correct?

                    LIE AGAIN: there were opponents and later even lied about "violations"
                    Quote: pytar
                    Statements of. there are EU and US faces, they are public. You don't know anything about what happened! H

                    ONCE AGAIN, THIRD: statements by MERKEL, MACRON, POMPEO - NOT A TABLE! (as in Belarus)
                    Quote: pytar
                    recognized by the European Union and all other countries

                    ONCE AGAIN: I DO NOT give a damn about the "recognition / non-recognition of the EU, the US, etc. SHVALI, because there is NO such norm of international law as the need to" recognize the elections by some foreign law "for their legitimacy.
                    this is the right of only the people of the country and its government
                    Quote: pytar
                    and Lukashenka "won" with very dubious vague machinations!

                    EU is machinations, hypocrisy, blatant stupid LIE, slander and double, triple standards-cm. Moldova, where he COVERED the bandits who ruined the country.
                    Quote: pytar
                    Representatives of the opposition were not allowed in the electoral process! Yes, it is phenomenal kureosis - Tsypkala did not recognize several tens of thousands of signatures, and the other was "recognized" as much more than he collected himself! The man turned out to be honest and said that he did not have so many signatures, no !!! Fraud at all levels! They "counted" in closed votes, only Lukashevists in these commissions! Hundreds of thousands are wiped out, and they are beaten and put in paddy wagons and mocked! This is an election, this is a parody!

                    Court decisions are on the table, not your gossip!
                    Quote: pytar
                    And who will appoint the judge? Have you read the law on the judicial system in Belarus? All judges, at all levels, are personally appointed by Lukashenka! What kind of an independent judicial system, what kind of judge can we talk about then?

                    LIE Again: Article 81. Appointment of Judges of Courts of General Jurisdiction
                    Judges of district (city), specialized, regional (Minsk city) courts, economic courts of regions (city of Minsk) are appointed by the President of the Republic of Belarus on the proposal of the Chairman of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Belarus.

                    Judges of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Belarus are appointed by the President of the Republic of Belarus with the consent of the Council of the Republic of the National Assembly of the Republic of Belarus on the proposal of the Chairman of the Supreme Court of the Republic of Belarus.

                    Judicial power in the Republic of Belarus belongs only to courts formed in accordance with the established procedure, and is exercised byregardless of legislative and executive power
                    Quote: pytar
                    One thing is clear - you nothing is clear! You you have not the slightest idea of ​​reality!

                    Are you the-WHO to judge something about me? Nobody!
                    From this and proceed, yes.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 5 October 2020 22: 56 New
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                      Andrew! I can only say one thing - you can't be hysterical! Take care of your health! yes
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 6 October 2020 09: 57 New
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                        Quote: pytar
                        Andrew! I can only say one thing - you can't be hysterical!

                        Boyan
                        Quote: pytar
                        - You can't be hysterical!


                        And be healthy! hi
          2. Kasym
            Kasym 4 October 2020 18: 59 New
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            Thank you, Boyan, for the information !!! See how you are needed here on this site. Previously, I wanted to "quit" myself, but ... our brothers need to convey the point of view of "direct participants".
            Do not hurt, and may your family be healthy !!! Good luck !!! hi
            1. pytar
              pytar 4 October 2020 20: 40 New
              +3
              Thank you Dauren! hi I look at the "novelties" from Russian sites / media, they look like they are from a parallel universe! Zero correlation with reality! Of course, opinions can be very different, but by removing propaganda and direct communication with people from other countries, you can still get an idea of ​​the real situation! Be healthy, Dauren! I wish you all prosperity and peace! good
            2. Terrible GMO
              Terrible GMO 4 October 2020 21: 08 New
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              Quote: Kasym
              Previously, I wanted to "quit" myself, but ... our brothers need to convey the point of view of "direct participants".

              If they could also listen to alternative points of view request There is little sense in this.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 4 October 2020 21: 30 New
                +1
                These are the authorities, not ordinary people. You have to understand the difference. hi
                1. Terrible GMO
                  Terrible GMO 4 October 2020 21: 39 New
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                  Quote: Kasym
                  These are the authorities, not ordinary people. You have to understand the difference.

                  Unfortunately not. The problem is that many people in the Russian Federation adhere to the Kremlin's version, he will not lie.
                  Young people for the most part understand everything, but the rest ... VO is an excellent example. Nobody has done more for the emergence of Russophobic thoughts than the "patriots" from the pages of this resource and the actions of the Kremlin.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 4 October 2020 22: 28 New
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                    "VO is a great example ...."
                    I do not agree with your point of view. hi
          3. Selevc
            Selevc 5 October 2020 14: 13 New
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            Corruption in Bulgaria ??? How can a Bulgarian write something about corruption when there are quite a few rows in Italy (in the southern regions of the country) without corruption and without gilding the handle it is impossible to even park the car in the parking lot !!!
            How can the EU countries teach someone the fight against corruption when they themselves traditionally live for centuries up to their ears in corruption ??? Even the word Mafia is an Italian word !!!
          4. pytar
            pytar 5 October 2020 18: 10 New
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            Just for comparison:

            Sofia (03.10.2020) - "IV Great popular uprising." No more than a thousand people participate.



            Minsk (04.10.2020/100.000/XNUMX) - XNUMX Belarusians came out against Lukashenka.
      2. frruc
        frruc 4 October 2020 17: 23 New
        +1
        What happened? What are the "brothers" not happy with?
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 October 2020 13: 20 New
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      In the zopark tigers are not fed! We are waiting for the guys from the table. Local Wait should catch up.
      1. frruc
        frruc 4 October 2020 17: 16 New
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        At the same time, today's protesters consider any appearance on the streets to be a "Great Popular Uprising", assigning the appropriate numbering. According to their classification, the "previous Great Uprising" was at the end of September of the same year.
        good
        What number was it under? Great Bulgarians make Great Uprising.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 October 2020 13: 42 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      What is the protest against?

      You see ... You are most likely aware of what is happening in Minsk "From and To"in interpretation"Western media", but YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL about similar protests in Sofia ...

      What can be assumed?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 4 October 2020 13: 55 New
        -7
        The question was rhetorical, and not for you, but for the editorial board. The news is about nothing. As a telegram from Odessa:
        "EXCIT THE DOT DETAILS IN THE LETTER DOT"

        Protests in Minsk don't give a damn about me. Protests in Bulgaria, even more. hi
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 October 2020 13: 57 New
          +8
          Quote: A. Privalov
          The question was rhetorical

          Quote: A. Privalov
          Protests in Minsk don't give a damn about me. Protests in Bulgaria, even more.


          So why then the Internet had to dirty with an empty, "rhetorical" comment, since everything is "on the drum".
          We could have kept silent.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 4 October 2020 14: 17 New
            -5
            Quote: Insurgent
            So why then the Internet had to be dirty with an empty "rhetorical" comment, since everything was "on the drum".
            We could have kept silent.


            Only questions are rhetorical. That's what I asked Editorial staff... Are you the editorial board? No?
            We could have kept silent.
            And the protests in Minsk hurt you, but not me.
            It's about drums.

            As for the poor fellow of the Internet, my dear, he did not stand up to that. And now it will stand. hi
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Only questions are rhetorical. That's what I asked the editorial board.

              WHERE, in that case, you indicated that this is the question Editorial staff, given in the general field of discussion, since you are so rushing "for principle"?

              Here :
              Quote: A. Privalov
              What is the protest against?

              , somehow it is not visible request To teach you how to address questions correctly?
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 4 October 2020 14: 25 New
                -6
                Quote: Insurgent
                WHERE, in this case, did you indicate that this is a question of the editorial board, since you are rushing "on principle"?

                Here :
                Quote: A. Privalov
                What is the protest against?

                , somehow it is not visible

                Have I already explained it clearly enough to you? Or teach you to understand the questions correctly?
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 5 October 2020 09: 06 New
                  -2

                  A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
                  Yesterday, 14:25 ... Have I already explained it clearly enough to you? Or teach you to understand the questions correctly?

                  “Painfully you are formidable, as I can see! ... "N. Nekrasov
                  laughing tongue laughing
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 26 New
              0
              Quote: A. Privalov
              As for the poor fellow of the Internet, my dear, he did not stand up to that. And now it will stand.

              Yes, a lot of absurdity, it is often not easy for them to "digest", and with your yes
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 4 October 2020 14: 28 New
                -5
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: A. Privalov
                As for the poor fellow of the Internet, my dear, he did not stand up to that. And now it will stand.

                Yes, a lot of absurdity, it is often not easy for them to "digest", and with your yes

                In that case, I dare not delay any longer! hi
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 31 New
                  -3
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  In that case, I dare not delay any longer

                  You will not be able to "delay" me with empty "rhetorical" chatter, as if you suddenly even wanted to yes
                  1. aszzz888
                    aszzz888 5 October 2020 08: 44 New
                    0
                    Insurgent
                    Yesterday, 14: 31
                    NEW

                    -2
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    In that case, I dare not delay any longer

                    You will not be able to "detain" me with empty "rhetorical" chatter, as if you suddenly even wanted to yes
                    Drives to full halts! laughing Already distributes commands to the VO, who is "detained", who is not! Is there food for the horse? wink
          2. Liam
            Liam 4 October 2020 14: 20 New
            -5
            Quote: Insurgent
            So why then the Internet had to dirty with an empty, "rhetorical" comment, since everything is "on the drum".
            We could have kept silent.

            The Internet can withstand your daily kilotons of ranting nothing. And Privalov, unlike you, is an educated Persian
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 October 2020 08: 50 New
              -1
              Quote: Liam
              Privalov unlike you, an educated Persian

              So is he a Jew, or a Persian? belay
              1. borberd
                borberd 5 October 2020 14: 31 New
                -2
                He is a person who knows what he says, in contrast to your text towels - "about nothing."
          3. Alesi13
            Alesi13 4 October 2020 14: 24 New
            0
            And they are tired of waiting for your opinion
          4. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 4 October 2020 14: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Insurgent
            We could have kept silent.

            He's not here for that ...
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 5 October 2020 08: 46 New
              -2

              Lara Croft
              Yesterday, 14: 26
              NEW

              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              We could have kept silent.

              He's not here for this.
              Otherwise, the owner will arrange a spanking ... wink
        2. aszzz888
          aszzz888 5 October 2020 08: 58 New
          -1

          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
          Yesterday, 13: 55
          The question was rhetorical, and not for you, but the editorial board.For the gifted laughing - it turns out there is a feedback on the site.

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      2. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 26 New
        +1
        So why are Western media outlets if there are Belarusian social networks where everything is posted anyway? About Bulgarian has long been known to those who watch Bulgarian TV, everything is in the public domain if anything
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim_888
          So why are Western media outlets if there are Belarusian social networks where everything is posted anyway?

          Privalov is a citizen of Israel, "part of the Western world", although formally it is the East ...
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 57 New
            0
            Oh, someone didn't like Belarusian social networks
        2. pytar
          pytar 4 October 2020 18: 21 New
          +3
          So why are Western media outlets if there are Belarusian social networks where everything is posted anyway? About Bulgarian has long been known to those who watch Bulgarian TV, everything is in the public domain if anything

          You are absolutely right, Vadim! good Protests in Bulgaria, the most discussed event in our media! Sometimes it seems to me that there are more journalists there than the protesters! bully I often go through the center of Sofia, watching what happened from the first person. It should be noted here that in Bulgaria, state-owned only BNT / Bulgarian National Television / and BNR / Bulgarian National Radio / and they reflect the protests quite routinely. The BNT and the BNR are governed by a governing council appointed by the Parliament. The council is attended by representatives of all parliamentary represented parties. This is not government media! There are no independent media in Belarus! Everything is controlled by the authorities! Therefore, the Internet has become a field for the opposition to display its position! Even though the Belarusian authorities are trying to censor him! And how Lukashenka's riot police operate is incredibly wild! Beatings, detentions, beatings, this is natural fascism! More than 7 thousand. passed through this Hell! This is unthinkable in Bulgaria !!! I am higher in my lengthy post, I wrote how the previous government of Borisov fell! Then there were also protests in Sofia. 4 testers were not seriously affected. One of them with a bandaged head appeared on TV channels in the evening, including state ones, accusing the police of exceeding their powers! The next day, Premier Borisov apologized and gave it away! Gone saving face! What is Lukashenka doing? Compare!
        3. Terrible GMO
          Terrible GMO 4 October 2020 21: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Vadim_888
          if there is a Belarusian social network where everything is already spread?

          Nope, they died long ago. If it is about social. networks, then this is a contact and Facebook in general, and most of them have been in telegram channels for a long time. For the authorities will not get to them, they will not have enough strength. hi


          Quote: pytar
          There are no independent media in Belarus! Everything is controlled by the authorities! Therefore, the Internet has become a field for the opposition to display its position! Even though the Belarusian authorities are trying to censor him!

          Exactly. Tiny independent regional newspapers even refuse to print, almost all Internet resources are blocked, and the largest has no media status.
          Until the weekend, all foreign journalists were stripped of their accreditation .... Except for propagandists from RT.

          Quote: pytar
          And how Lukashenka's riot police operate is incredibly wild! Beatings, detentions, beatings, this is natural fascism! More than 7 thousand. passed through this Hell! This is unthinkable in Bulgaria !!!

          It couldn't be better.
          A truly abnormal situation. Those who every year on May 9 shout from the high rostrum about the inadmissibility of repeating the horrors of fascism and Nazism, with such frenzy and hatred call on Luka to continue torturing, beating and torturing the Belarusian people. And the population with hooting shouts "so beat them up and get sick!"

          Already now the scale of political repression is approaching (if not already) the scale of repression in the 30s. Of course, there are no more shootings, but still.

          What is Lukashenka doing? Compare!

          They will not compare. They also believe (huh) that it is the bought protesters who provoke the poor OMON, the police and a decent collective farmer.
          1. pytar
            pytar 4 October 2020 22: 15 New
            +4
            I deliberately avoid discussing the events in Belarus here. The adept Solovev, Sheinin, and the two of them are famous families, you know them ... But I will tell you another example from my life! I have Russian relatives and many friends in the Russian Federation! Periodically come to visit, relax, arrange feasts as expected! drinks And when the first time, one of them came, the same thing is always repeated! We rarely talk about politics, but you still can't do without it! My Russians are beginning to repeat to me that they listened from Russian media, and what they believe in all seriousness! I take and show them situations in place, specific events, as they are! So that you can see with your own eyes how much reality differs from the propaganda picture that is hammered into their heads! I am showing approximately specific materials and how they are published in Russian - media! It's about sugrubo Bulgarian events! My friends try to argue at first, but the evidence is so obvious that the guys fall into a stupor! Over time, their surprise grows - like "Well, yes ... here in truth the situation is not quite the same ...", "well, here probably ours have confused something", "but here ours certainly misled", "hmmm ... it's really not true ... everything was distorted" etc! At one point they realize the facts and begin to wonder - why do our people do that !? And then one more insight comes - if about what happened in Bulgaria, with which Russia has no fundamental contradictions, they denise so much, so what about other countries ?! They probably lie even more about them! Of course there are friends who flatly refuse to admit the facts! I try with them no longer talking about politics. hi
    4. Greenwood
      Greenwood 4 October 2020 14: 02 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      What is the protest against?
      The problems are probably the same as in the entire post-Soviet space: unemployment, low living standards, corruption in bureaucratic circles, the authorities' ignorance of the opinions of the local population to please their business interests and the interests of foreign "partners".
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 4 October 2020 15: 39 New
        -2
        Quote: Greenwood
        unemployment, low living standards, corruption in bureaucratic circles, ignorance by the authorities of the opinions of the local population to please their business interests and the interests of foreign "partners".

        Again, you have to buy Bulgarian pepper in Italy. And they want to grow themselves! So a patriot climbed onto a lantern on the Orlov Bridge to wave a flag. repeat
    5. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 4 October 2020 14: 25 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      What is the protest against?

      Reread again ... fellow
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 October 2020 14: 42 New
      -3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      What is the protest against?

      The main thing is protest, and against what and against whom none of the protesters knows.
    7. aszzz888
      aszzz888 5 October 2020 08: 38 New
      -2

      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Yesterday, 13: 02
      NEW
      -2
      What is the protest against?
      And read, poorly? laughing Just to scratch off a quick line. tongue

      The action started at about 17.00. Several thousand people took part in it, including those who came from other cities in Bulgaria. They demanded the resignation of Chief Prosecutor Ivan Geshev and the government of Boyko Borisov, as well as early parliamentary elections.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 October 2020 13: 03 New
    +5
    Now friends Bulgarians will have lunch and will provide more accurate information, otherwise all Belarus and the NKR. hi drinks
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 4 October 2020 13: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      and then all Belarus and the NKR.

      Yes, you can pray to Temka lol
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 31 New
      17
      Now Bulgarian friends will have lunch and will provide more accurate information ...


      The protests have been going on for nearly 90 days. Tired of the corrupt and oligarchic government. The European Union is doing all sorts of nonsense, but not paying attention to corruption within the Union. We are stumbling both Brussels and our own politicians. People want the resignation of the government, elections, the resignation of the prosecutor general and politicians in the slammer. For a very, very long time.

      And for the fans on duty of the State Department and the flat Earth - no, here the State Department has nothing to do with it. Our politicians bored us and that's it. The only way for them is to hard labor.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 4 October 2020 13: 36 New
        +2
        Well, good luck in such a good deed !!! And who will you choose for their place? Besides you, of course, if not a secret? hi drinks
      2. Oleg1263
        Oleg1263 4 October 2020 13: 43 New
        +9
        And during these 90 days, neither Poland nor the Baltic states have ever expressed their support for the protesters? Strange .....
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 47 New
          14
          During these 90 days, neither Poland nor the Baltic States have ever expressed their support for the protesters? Strange .....


          Yes, we also started protests before the European Commission in Sofia and Brussels - hushing up problems within the union and stealing European grants is more important than foreign policy. I have nothing to do with Belarus and Khabarovsk, and I want the priority of internal problems. Otherwise, I wanted to spit on this oligarchic democracy.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 4 October 2020 14: 32 New
            -4
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            theft of European grants

            did you think you will get something too?
            more important than foreign policy.

            when you entered the EU with bulging eyes, foreign policy was more important for you, and not future theft of grants ...
            Otherwise, I wanted to spit on this oligarchic democracy.

            It's too late to rush about already left the CMEA and entered the ESU, it would be time to get used to "not the first year married" ...
            1. Bagatur
              Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 24 New
              +2
              SEV and VD were dismissed! They threw allies. Enough feeding Eastern Europe, which is funny. A country which itself did not feed itself cannot feed us
            2. pytar
              pytar 4 October 2020 18: 35 New
              +2
              did you think you will get something too?

              Where there is a lot of money, there is always corruption! In Russia it is outrageous, so it's not for you to teach us.
              when you entered the EU with bulging eyes, foreign policy was more important for you, and not future theft of grants ...

              We had corruption during socialism, it was after that, and it is now. Because all the same gentlemen - the former communists rule around the authorities. In vain we did not carry out lustration, in vain ... Although it is thanks to the intervention of the EU, the level of corruption in our country has noticeably decreased in recent years! By the way, it is in terms of the level of corruption that we are closer to modern Russia, although you are much ahead, we will not catch up!
              It's too late to rush about already left the CMEA and entered the ESU, it would be time to get used to "not the first year married" ...

              We did not destroy the USSR, the OVD and the CMEA. They have outlived their time. By the degrees of your throwing, we will not reach you! But you are no stranger to, you have radically changed your amploa in just a century, 3 times. I don’t know how it’s with you since marriage, but obviously the great experience you have gained teaches you nothing.
      3. Insurgent
        Insurgent 4 October 2020 13: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        The protests have been going on for nearly 90 days. Tired of the corrupt and oligarchic government.


        But "for some reason"The only thing that doesn’t scream about the protests in Minsk is the iron in the European Union, and no one knows anything about the protracted crisis in Sofia what request .

        "Double standards"? But the" progressive part of humanity "in the person of" Western democracies "denies the very fact of such a selectively differentiated approach ...
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 51 New
          10
          But "for some reason" only the iron in the European Union does not shout about the protests in Minsk, and no one knows anything about the protracted crisis in Sofia.


          I'm talking about the same - the Brussels bureaucratic freaks have completely beguiled the banks. Either they will enter into normalcy or people will be very disappointed, but this is much worse than the "Russian threat" and may ruin the union in the future.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 4 October 2020 13: 55 New
            +3
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            could break the union in the future


            A reasonable person will not grieve over the lost oppression of the European bureaucracy No.
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 31 New
              0
              Will grieve for infrastructure investments and open borders where goods can be moved, or learning to travel over the hill
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 4 October 2020 14: 41 New
                +9
                Will grieve for infrastructure investments and open borders where goods can be moved, or learning to travel over the hill


                Yes, this is a blessing, and that's why I also support the EU - the economy is going well, a ticket to Berlin or Paris costs 25 euros, young people can study everywhere and I can drink beer for the weekend wherever I want and where there are friends. What are the open borders - I have not had a passport for ten years - I ride with an ID card all over Europe.
                1. ultra
                  ultra 5 October 2020 08: 37 New
                  -2
                  well, I see, the main thing is the ticket
                  wassat
                  1. Keyser soze
                    Keyser soze 5 October 2020 10: 14 New
                    +2
                    well, I see, the main thing is the ticket


                    A ticket, it's freedom of movement, no borders ... Sometimes I call my friends in Berlin or Paris and fly to visit on Saturday and Sunday, just like that, talk, have a can of beer. And on Monday back to work.
                    1. ultra
                      ultra 5 October 2020 10: 30 New
                      -3
                      I love fantastic stories
                      laughing
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 5 October 2020 12: 17 New
                        +3
                        I love fantastic stories

                        Mikhail, I lived half my life under socialism. During that time, I never managed to go abroad, that is, in socialist countries. It was difficult with this then! And over the past 10 years, I traveled around the field! I have been to Spain 2 times - once by car, the second by plane, while the ticket cost only 60 euros. I've been to Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, Germany, Czech Republic, Hungary and will go again as soon as this virus goes away. And in neighboring Greece and Romania, I’m by car in 2-3 hours! And I visit Russia often! So - if reality seems to you a fantasy, then you are not living in reality! yes
                      2. Keyser soze
                        Keyser soze 5 October 2020 13: 01 New
                        0
                        And I visit Russia often!


                        This is where I want to go, but so far I haven’t been able to - visas, expensive tickets, the devil knows what else, but a passport must be made ... it’s easier and cheaper to wind up in Rome or Barcelona ...
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 42 New
              -1
              Quote: Vadim_888
              Will grieve for infrastructure investments and open borders where goods can be moved, or learning to travel over the hill

              To "move goods", you need to have their production. How many countries that have joined the EU have been able to maintain their industrial and agricultural base?
              It's the same with education, so that there is an urgent need to study abroad, you need to eliminate your education system ...

              What else is there? "Infrastructure investments"? Have you seen them in Bulgaria, the Tribaltic?
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 4 October 2020 15: 04 New
                +4
                How many countries that have joined the EU have been able to maintain their industrial and agricultural base?


                But this myth is a colleague. We surpassed the best years of socialism in terms of equal prices and GDP back in 2009. Industry gives 34% of GDP (in Germany it is 38%). Agriculture is also excellent - in second place in the world for wheat for sowing, Iran was displaced for the production of first-class saffron, France was displaced for the production of lavender. Etc. As I said in the economy, there are no complaints.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 4 October 2020 15: 13 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Keyser Soze

                  But this myth is a colleague.

                  I will not argue, perhaps you know better. I will only note that the Baltics, an industrial
                  whose legacy is more familiar to us after joining the EU, it cannot boast of any special achievements.

                  Here, a hackneyed, largely propaganda video, but after all, much of what is declared is the bitter truth ...



                  The last cannery to produce sprat, by the way - CLOSE ...
                  1. Keyser soze
                    Keyser soze 4 October 2020 15: 17 New
                    +3
                    I will only note that the Baltics, an industrial
                    whose legacy is more familiar to us after joining the EU, it cannot boast of any special achievements.


                    I am an economist, but the economics and development of the Baltics is completely unfamiliar to me. There I am not an expert and therefore I do not give an opinion.
                  2. My doctor
                    My doctor 4 October 2020 17: 10 New
                    0
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    I will not argue, perhaps you know better. I will only note that the Baltics, an industrial
                    whose legacy is more familiar to us, after joining the EU, cannot boast of special achievements

                    What if this inheritance was directed to the USSR? And with the complete insolvency of market participants, it is logical that the enterprises closed. The governments of these countries did not want to provide support in haste to get rid of the Soviet legacy. I do not think that the Balts regret what has happened.
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 4 October 2020 19: 13 New
                      -2
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      The governments of these countries did not want to provide support in haste to get rid of the Soviet legacy. ...

                      Getting rid of tax revenues and jobs at the same time ...
                      I do not think that the Balts regret what has happened.
                      Well, why do the Balts need jobs in their homeland, they have always dreamed of working in a foreign land ...
                    2. borberd
                      borberd 5 October 2020 14: 46 New
                      +1
                      And who said that the government should maintain unprofitable industries? Just because they still worked about the USSR? The world is changing, and you are stuck in the realities of the USSR, where buying a can of Riga sprat for the new year was an achievement and an indicator of success.
                    3. My doctor
                      My doctor 5 October 2020 18: 14 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      Getting rid of tax revenues and jobs at the same time ...

                      What are the payments, what are the taxes? At that time, everyone was not solvent, the only thing that saved was barter.
                2. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 4 October 2020 21: 55 New
                  +4
                  I will answer about the Baltic states - the reason for the closure and liquidation of Soviet enterprises was an attempt to economically squeeze the Russian population out of the region, because mainly Russians worked in industry, the Balts were traditionally engaged in agriculture, fishing, and the service sector, which suffered, but to a much lesser extent
              2. ultra
                ultra 5 October 2020 14: 32 New
                -1
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                As I said in the economy, there are no complaints.

                Of course, there are no complaints, because only one name remains from the Bulgarian economy. I looked now for the sake of interest 40% of Bulgaria's GDP is the service sector.
            3. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 06 New
              +2
              Of course I did, because I ride there (in BG) sometimes, and believe me, evolutionary development is taking place there, and many Bulgarians return home from Europe, because new perspectives open up at home
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 4 October 2020 19: 15 New
                -2
                Quote: Vadim_888
                Of course I did, because I ride there (in BG) sometimes, and believe me, evolutionary development is taking place there, and many Bulgarians return home from Europe, because new perspectives open up at home

                Which ones? Even Schengen is closed for Bulgarians and Romanians ...
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 30 New
                  +2
                  Schengen is closed for those who enter with a Bulgarian or Romanian visa, and everything is open for Blogs and Romanians
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 4 October 2020 20: 49 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Vadim_888
                    Schengen is closed for those who enter with a Bulgarian or Romanian visa, and everything is open for Blogs and Romanians

                    By no means.
                    List of Schengen countries as of 2020:

                    https://viza-info.ru/information/strani-shengena.html
                    You are not there ... fellow
                  2. Vadim_888
                    Vadim_888 4 October 2020 22: 03 New
                    +5
                    You are again confusing the list of Schengen countries and the rights of citizens of the European Union, which the Bulgarians are, also a number of island states have the right to enter the European Union, so learn materiel
    3. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 4 October 2020 14: 36 New
      -6
      [quote = Keyser Soze] but this is much worse than the "Russian threat" and may ruin the union in the future. / quote]
      Those. "Russian threat" still has a place to be ...?
      Well, that's why the grants were paid not to you but to your senior comrades, you did your job, Bulgaria is in the EU, what else do you want?
      1. Bagatur
        Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 30 New
        0
        The threat from Russia is not military ... But corruption, bribes are of interest to her. Now, the Turkish Stream is being built with budget money. Why? Because some people took 800 million euros from Gazprom for the implementation of South Stream ...
      2. pytar
        pytar 4 October 2020 20: 47 New
        -1
        Those. "Russian threat" still has a place to be ...?

        There is no project with Russian participation, in which there is no corruption! The corruption component is the main one in all approaches of the Russian Federation. business! Connections between our and your oligarchs, even from the time when they were party bosses or their order bearers, drivers, cooks, etc.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 October 2020 14: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    The European Union is doing all sorts of nonsense, but not paying attention to corruption within the Union.

    This is the whole essence of the European Union. Nonsense, incompetence, corruption, and the countries entering the EU must submit to a bunch of these figures.
    1. Bagatur
      Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 30 New
      +1
      And in the USSR and Russia, corruption was not and no ???
    2. pytar
      pytar 4 October 2020 20: 51 New
      +2
      This is the whole essence of the European Union. Nonsense, incompetence, corruption, and the countries entering the EU must submit to a bunch of these figures.

      Nonsense, what are you writing! EU voluntary union! No one is there with force to drag, no one will interfere with the exit! If the EU is as bad as you say, everyone would run away from it! Now 71% of Bulgarians approve of EU membership! The indicator is stable, people see and understand everything perfectly!
      https://news.bg/society/71-ot-balgarite-odobryavat-chlenstvoto-ni-v-es-60-v-nato.html
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 October 2020 08: 15 New
        0
        Quote: pytar
        If the EU is as bad as you say, everyone would run away from it! Now 71% of Bulgarians approve of EU membership!

        I do not argue that they do not approve of you, just as we have entry into the EU, our small countries have nowhere to go. BUT! do not forget the opposite side of the medal, all EU countries must act by the decision of the EU, and not of their own free will, and also join the NATO bloc, while all EU countries automatically become an enemy of Russia, no matter how you treat it, and the time will come when our small countries are forced to fight with Russia. In the meantime, we have to live on the front line at gunpoint "Caliber". Our line runs along the Narova River.
        1. pytar
          pytar 5 October 2020 11: 10 New
          0
          I do not argue that they do not approve of you, the same way we have accession to the EU ...

          I don't know about you, but we have 71% approve EU membership! Yasnenko is written there!
          ... all EU countries must act on an EU decision, not on their own ...

          And EU decisions are taken as a result of a general vote, where each country has an equal right to vote. Every union is a kind of compromise. The good thing about the EU is that no one is forcing anyone to be a member. Not with tanks, as in the CMEA, they drag countries.
          and the time will come when our small countries will be forced to fight with Russia. In the meantime, we have to live on the front line at gunpoint "Caliber".

          Ha, ha, ha! I mean, blow up the whole planet? If you are in a sound mind, then it should be clear to you that no war is possible between NATO and the Russian Federation. Your "Gauges" from the closet in the day room will remain. You will continue to be proud of him, they will not be useful for anything else.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 5 October 2020 11: 42 New
            0
            Quote: pytar
            I do not know about you, but we have 71% approve of EU membership! Yasnenko is written there!

            And we have the same percentage as yours. Big uncles decide only for us, and we are in the wings.
  • venik
    venik 4 October 2020 15: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Their way is only to hard labor.

    =======
    good drinks
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 4 October 2020 13: 31 New
    -1
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Now friends Bulgarians will have lunch and will provide more accurate information, otherwise all Belarus and the NKR. hi drinks

    I have vague doubts about their exact information. laughing There were some words from one of them how good it was for them to follow the current direction. How good they are.
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 4 October 2020 13: 44 New
      +3
      Some kind of kabzdets! These stupid Bulgarians do not understand their happiness! Probably overripe with democracy. Here in Belarus, on the contrary, they want to already can not. I've talked to some of them who were on vacation in Bulgaria. They live, they say, in the EU as in Christ's bosom. Democracy at least eat your booty. And that's what we want. Well (as Zadornov said there).
    2. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 33 New
      +1
      Last year the salary of a bus driver in Sofia exceeded the salary of a bus driver in Moscow, would you like any more comparisons?
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 4 October 2020 14: 38 New
        +6
        Last year the salary of a bus driver in Sofia exceeded the salary of a bus driver in Moscow, do you want any more comparisons?


        We have no complaints about the country's economy. But it could be better.
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  • halpat
    halpat 4 October 2020 13: 04 New
    -9
    It is necessary to bring down a promatrasnuyu click.
    Russia can take Shipka again, if cho. smile
    It is necessary to reach the borders of Turkey and, in general, let this coast be Russian, Bosphorus / Dardanelles. We do not need a Turkish coast (there).
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 4 October 2020 13: 14 New
      -3
      Quote: Halpat
      We do not need a Turkish coast (there).

      And it would come in handy for me, to have a rest for free lol
      1. halpat
        halpat 4 October 2020 13: 26 New
        -2
        So it will be for free :) on everything official, to view Istanbul with binoculars :) from Constantinople.
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 4 October 2020 14: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Halpat
          So it will be for free :) on everything official, to view Istanbul with binoculars :) from Constantinople.

          It always seemed to me that Istanbul and Constantinople, two names of the same city)))
          1. halpat
            halpat 4 October 2020 16: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: ZEMCH
            Quote: Halpat
            So it will be for free :) on everything official, to view Istanbul with binoculars :) from Constantinople.

            It always seemed to me that Istanbul and Constantinople, two names of the same city)))

            So there are 2 banks)) on both is Istanbul, formerly Constantinople.
            We must take one coast (western), return the historical name of Constantinople.
            And then, as I wrote ... with binoculars ... :) watch Istanbul :))

            So see? smile
            Finish the work of great-grandfathers (1877). Then the Englishwoman shit, Alexander II did not dare to end the Ottomans.
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 4 October 2020 15: 34 New
      +6
      It is necessary to reach the borders of Turkey and, in general, let this coast be Russian, Bosphorus / Dardanelles.


      With this insane under-sultan, the partition of Turkey may come again. So there are chances. Yesterday, our media published that Yerdogashka was also aiming at Yerusalim. If this is not a fake, then it gives off psychiatry, no worse than Hitler, so anything is possible.
    3. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 40 New
      +1
      Of course it can, but for some reason Kiev can't, and even Mariupol won't take it either way ...
    4. Bagatur
      Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 31 New
      +2
      Russia land is not enough, or what?
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 31 New
        +2
        Russians always lack something ... The soul is wide, it is difficult to fill
        1. Not with you
          Not with you 4 October 2020 19: 44 New
          -1
          "Something is missing"....
          Not land))) ???
          Not the Russians, but you ...
          most probably....
          I'm a stranger
          no land ...
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 4 October 2020 13: 10 New
    +1
    Oh, these hot people are Bulgarians. What to take from them, if "yes" and "no" are mixed up with them, "to the right" is straight. They cannot agree in any way. You still look for a couple of centuries and they will stir up something.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 4 October 2020 13: 12 New
      -1
      Oh, these hot people are Bulgarians. What to take from them, if "yes" and "no" are mixed up with them, "to the right" is straight. They cannot agree in any way. You still look for a couple of centuries and they will stir up something.


      They won't sweat it out.
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 46 New
        -1
        Why stir up something if the people are gradually getting richer?
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 4 October 2020 16: 37 New
          +1
          Why stir up something if the people are gradually getting richer?

          You know better...
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 October 2020 13: 15 New
    +3
    Anti-government protests in Bulgaria called "the fourth great popular uprising"
    One of the protesters climbed into a traffic light and waved the Bulgarian flag from there.
    Some of the protesters were banned from participating in the action. One of them, for example, because of the eggs he tried to throw at the police.
    Tin.
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 4 October 2020 13: 15 New
    +3
    Liquid protests of some kind. The hand of the State Department is not visible. Or someone else's.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 36 New
      11
      Liquid protests of some kind.


      Yes, people got tired - 87 days. In the beginning, there were hundreds of thousands and everywhere in the country. Either we remove the corrupt officials and the oligarchy, or the end of the country, we will not develop normally.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 4 October 2020 14: 19 New
        +3
        So if you remove the oligarchs, you will start building socialism again! You do not want to physically eliminate the oligarchs, but take away the means of production from them? smile
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 4 October 2020 14: 34 New
          +9
          You don't want to physically eliminate the oligarchs, but take away the means of production from them?


          I want to see them in the jail. And the next generation of politicians who go to work ride the subway or ride a bike, not in a stupid armored Mercier ...

          But we often change power, by kicks or through elections, and sooner or later everything will grow together.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 4 October 2020 14: 43 New
            +1
            Do I understand correctly, you are against the expropriation of the expropriators? If the oligarchs from prison will manage their own means of production through proxies? And then, it is somehow communistically throwing a person into prison, just because he is an oligarch, he paid taxes, set up jobs, gave people jobs, in other words, he took care of the people.
        2. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 35 New
          +3
          You were not told about petty-bourgeois revolutions in history lessons?
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 4 October 2020 14: 50 New
          0
          Quote: parusnik
          So if you remove the oligarchs, you will start building socialism again! You do not want to physically eliminate the oligarchs, but take away the means of production from them? smile

          Will the oligarchs want negative clean up? Just to think about how to count the majority - by heads or by the amount $$$, €€€ bully
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 4 October 2020 15: 01 New
            +2
            They will be scared of popular protests and how they will run away with the government. laughing Roughly speaking, 90 days have passed to the government, then in a fig. And they protest culturally. Gathered for the weekend to protest and dispersed. Then again, they created super-profits for the oligarch during the working week, and the weekend was again on protest. So you look and break the foundations. laughing
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 4 October 2020 15: 07 New
              +1
              ..... and protest culturally .....
              well yes! As before, like ---Leopold! Dastardly coward! Go away!
              1. parusnik
                parusnik 4 October 2020 15: 14 New
                +2
                That's the whole bourgeois democracy. The most ordinary totalitarianism. The authorities are not controlled by the people.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 4 October 2020 15: 35 New
                  0
                  Quote: parusnik
                  That's the whole bourgeois democracy. The most ordinary totalitarianism. The authorities are not controlled by the people.

                  The other is seen at a distance. Inside the situation, the actions are more significant, the distance to the target is closer
                2. pytar
                  pytar 4 October 2020 21: 10 New
                  +3
                  That's the whole bourgeois democracy. The most ordinary totalitarianism. The authorities are not controlled by the people.

                  Democracy is actually a very good thing! Allows to change the ruling and even ahead of schedule! bully They don't work as they should, well, get out, others will be appointed! But in the given case, there are nuances ... According to opinion polls, more than 60% of the respondents said they support the demands of the protesters! At the same time, the ruling party still has higher electoral support than the opposition! No political force has more than 33-35%! Therefore, if pre-term elections are held, the currently ruling GERB B. Borisov will probably win again! But he will not be able to form a government without coalition partners! It also rules the coalition, in which the pro-Russian "Attack" participates, by the way! Who will rule depends on who will be able to coalition! There are new political players looking for their place in politics! Borisov is now ready to leave, but what's the point, because the next elections are coming soon - in 2021! Besides, now the government is in very important negotiations with the EU, the eventual abandonment will not be in the interests of the country! Borisov is definitely not going to be a very clear winner, even if GERB wins. Our people prudently does not allow any political force to crush all power under them! Here is President Radev from the opposition! Democracy forces politicians to compete, this is the only way people can defend their rights! The rallies are a confirmation of this! hi
          2. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 31 New
            -1
            They will hardly clean up, but taxes will begin to be paid in full
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 4 October 2020 14: 39 New
        -6
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Either we remove the corrupt officials and the oligarchy, or the end of the country, we will not develop normally.

        The end came to you when you joined the EU ...
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 4 October 2020 14: 44 New
          +7
          The end came to you when you joined the EU ...


          Yes Croft ... everything is over - and for us and the dollar and the State Department and the Mask ...

          1. parusnik
            parusnik 4 October 2020 14: 56 New
            +6
            You know Evgeny, somehow I don't particularly condemn the countries of the former socialist orientation for joining the EU. But where to go? .. The former CMEA countries and the former Soviet republics were not smart enough to create their own economic community. The EU is, of course, there will be costs, it always happens when the mind is not enough, this is what I said about everyone above. Russia and RICS have created a bunch of alliances, how many years have passed, I don't feel somehow ...
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 4 October 2020 15: 01 New
            -1
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            Yes Croft ... everything is over - and for us and the dollar and the State Department and the Mask ...

            For the photo of the dog and the end
            the dollar and the State Department and the Mask .....
            I bet YOU +
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 October 2020 14: 47 New
      -1
      Quote: Sergey39
      Liquid protests of some kind. The hand of the State Department is not visible. Or someone else's.

      Do you think there are not enough "Georgian snipers"?
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 44 New
        0
        ... Do you think there is a lack of "Georgian snipers"?

        It is not customary to shoot at your people there, this is the fun of more northern regions
    3. Bagatur
      Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 34 New
      0
      The State Department has nothing to do with ... But the protest is too peaceful and quiet, not many people. Life in Sofia is much better than in the province. Sofia is not Bulgaria! If Borisov left the street 200 long ago, where else
  • iouris
    iouris 4 October 2020 13: 15 New
    +3
    Finally they pointed to Bulgaria. And then everything is Khabarovsk, Belarus, Navalny ...
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 25 New
    +6
    Previous Great Popular Uprisings are likely to include


    No. The author got confused - the first three were within these 87 days. Larger protests were convened as an uprising, against corruption and oligarchy.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 October 2020 13: 30 New
      +4
      Good afternoon, now that the people don't like it. Like in the European Union and in NATO. I'm afraid to assume "external control". hi
      1. Bagatur
        Bagatur 4 October 2020 17: 35 New
        +1
        Not the EU, our bastards need to be dispersed!
      2. pytar
        pytar 4 October 2020 21: 18 New
        0
        Good afternoon, now that the people don't like it. Like in the European Union and in NATO. I'm afraid to assume "external control".

        People like the EU / 71% FOR /, even support for NATO membership / 60% FOR / is growing. I do not like that the government is too slow in pursuing European standards in life. Borisov has no claim to economic policy. The economy, incomes grew really during his reign. But corruption is a fact! Scandals alternate one after another! And the forced retirement from home due to the pandemic aroused people. hi
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 13: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      uprising, against corruption and oligarchy

      Buying iPhones - you fill the pocket of US oligarchs. If all these people, mindlessly wandering around the city, simply stopped buying iPhones, it would be a much more serious blow to the oligarchy. Not in words, but in deeds.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 October 2020 14: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
        Buying iPhones - you fill the pocket of US oligarchs. If all these people, mindlessly wandering around the city, simply stopped buying iPhones, it would be a much more serious blow to the oligarchy. Not in words, but in deeds

        People, even from the poison of McDonald's, cannot refuse and boycott these eateries, and you mean the iPhones.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 47 New
          0
          .
          People cannot even refuse the poison of McDonald's
          then in Russia because of fear they go to other eateries, in BG you can eat everywhere
      2. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 37 New
        +1
        The purchase of iPhones on olinarhat by the subsoil trade does not affect either
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 15: 07 New
          -2
          Quote: Vadim_888
          The purchase of iPhones on olinarhat by the subsoil trade does not affect either

          Do you think iPhones are made of wood? Or mammoth bones? Metals (the same lithium in batteries), plastics (hydrocarbons), etc. - all from there, from the bowels of the earth. The energy consumed by production is also 80% (at best) from the bowels. And the one that is allegedly not from the bowels, is also not obtained on wooden windmills and not accumulated in wooden batteries.
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 4 October 2020 16: 59 New
            -1
            Carbon fiber can be obtained from cellulose, there is more and more green energy every year, progress does not stand still
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 20: 32 New
              -2
              Quote: Vadim_888
              Carbon fiber from cellulose can be obtained

              Tell that to the iPhone oligarchs - they'll laugh. The only way to prove something to them is to stop buying their iPhones.
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 October 2020 13: 51 New
      +1
      Excuse me, but what is the corruption of the government? In the redistribution of property?
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 4 October 2020 13: 55 New
        +8
        Excuse me, but what is the corruption of the government? In the redistribution of property?


        Yes - the showdown between the under-oligarchs, the theft of European grants, the prosecutor's office acts as a bit of power to eliminate inconvenient ones, they buy up the media and they begin to bend the government's line. This does not smell like democracy.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 4 October 2020 14: 00 New
          +2
          It reminds me of something, only nationalists were used there. If you have leaders, then everything should be lost. Just don't miss, as in Ukraine.
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 38 New
            +2
            There is no Crimea there, it is of course - North Macedonia, but it was squeezed long ago
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 14: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          It doesn't smell like democracy

          As for me, what you described just smacks of democracy.
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 4 October 2020 15: 02 New
          +3
          ... showdown ... theft of European grants ... the prosecutor's office ... buying up the media ...
          can it really stop from protests? Terrible doubts request request
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 4 October 2020 15: 08 New
            +6
            can it really stop from protests? Terrible doubts


            Well, of course we won't. But we often change power, through kicks or through elections. The next ones will be a little better if they know that they are waiting in jail. There the Romanians hid the former premier, the finance minister and a bunch of politicians for real terms. And here we want it.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 4 October 2020 15: 17 New
              0
              ...... hid ..... a bunch of politicians .... we want it .....

              Good luck to you !
            2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 15: 39 New
              -2
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              we often change power

              These are all the governors. Not power.
      2. pytar
        pytar 4 October 2020 21: 24 New
        +1
        Excuse me, but what is the corruption of the government? In the redistribution of property?

        In fact, corruption exists wherever public orders and tenders are held. And here not only the government and structures close to it are involved, but also the opposition, where it has a local preponderance. For example, in municipalities, representatives of different parties rule in different communities. It makes no difference with whom they will negotiate, money does not smell, that the opposition, that the ruling party. Why protests against the government? Yes, because the government should have adopted mayors to restrict corruption practices! If the opposition wins the elections tomorrow, it will become the ruling party and will not restrict corruption, the next protests will already demolish it! We've had this more than once! hi
    4. iouris
      iouris 4 October 2020 14: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      uprising, against corruption and oligarchy.

      Good God! Where does corruption and oligarchy come from in Bulgaria? Did Bulgaria join the Russian Federation?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 October 2020 13: 32 New
    +2
    A correct protest is always “right” paid, although not always well organized. 5% of the marginalized can be found in any society. The most prosperous and prosperous. And there will ALWAYS be a reason. It is necessary to watch who pays and to whom. As old as the world - look for who benefits ...
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 40 New
      -2
      At the beginning of the XNUMXs, far from morginals went to a rally in defense of NTV in Moscow
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 4 October 2020 14: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim_888
        At the beginning of the XNUMXs, far from morginals went to a rally in defense of NTV in Moscow

        The rallies should not be confused with an attempt at a "color revolution". Did NTV Defense Demand the Overthrow of the Government?
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 21 New
          -1
          Rallies in defense of NTV demanded the preservation of freedom of speech and the right to receive information as a basic value in our country, which, in principle, yes to your question
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 4 October 2020 15: 23 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadim_888

            Rallies in defense of NTV demanded the preservation of freedom of speech and the right to receive information as a basic value in our country, which in principle, yes to your question

            From my point of view, we have more than enough freedom of speech. Without any rallies. There is more than enough unreliable information for every taste.
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 35 New
              -1
              How many TV channels do you have that are self-sufficient? Except for the rain?
              Round zero - what kind of independent television after that?
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 16: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim_888
        not morginals

        And the marginals
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 17: 50 New
          0
          Morginals sounds funnier, there is even funnier, but not the format
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 18: 00 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadim_888
            Morginals sounds funnier

            I think this is the usual illiteracy. But it sounds funny, yes.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 4 October 2020 13: 38 New
    +2
    What the hell is the 1944 uprising? It was just that the guys then realized that the Russians would come, and also the Yugoslavs, and they would slaughter these Nazi accomplices. In time to betray, it is not to betray, but to foresee.
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 14: 42 New
      -2
      Again, you don't know, BG was not an accomplice of the Nazis, the Bulgarian Jews WERE NOT extradited to Germany, and the Bulgarian soldiers did not fight on the eastern front
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 17: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadim_888
        BG was not an accomplice of the Nazis

        Tell the Serbs and Greeks. In those days, the Bulgarians, together with Hitler and Mussolini, went to kill their neighbors. They then fell for their faithful service a piece from the neighboring territories (Eastern Serbia, the Aegean coast, part of Macedonia). Have you hobbled around and think that no one will remember it? We all remember.

        Quote: Vadim_888
        Bulgarian soldiers did not fight on the eastern front

        To fight with Russia? Fools of nema. Better let another Serbian village pacify.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 17: 30 New
          -1
          The territories you are talking about were inhabited mainly by Bulgarians and not by Graks and Serbs, carefully study the materials on the Balkan wars before the First World War, the Serbs violated the agreement with the Bulgarians by occupying the territories inhabited by the Bulgarians during the partition of the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks generally stabbed the Bulgarians in the back ... And this is when the Bulgarians stood near Istanbul. RI collapsed because of the Serbs, the SFRY was not included in the Warsaw Treaty, the Greeks took part in the intervention against Russia in 20 years, so take a closer look at whom you are defending
          1. Polymer
            Polymer 4 October 2020 18: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Vadim_888
            RI collapsed because of the Serbs

            Wow, "history turns", it will take your breath away!
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 42 New
              0
              Nicholas II harnessed himself to the Serbs after an ultimatum to them from Austria-Hungary, as a result of defeat, revolution, collapse of Ingushetia
              After the revolution, how did the Serbs thank you?
              1. Polymer
                Polymer 4 October 2020 20: 19 New
                +1
                It was not the Serbs who dragged the Republic of Ingushetia and Austria-Hungary into the war, the shot of Gavrila Princip is only a pretext, not a reason for the war. And so it turns out that because of the Serbs and WWI started in general. There, half of the planet declared war on each other - and all just because of the Serbs?
                And the question is not whether they thanked them or not, but that "because of the Serbs the Republic of Ingushetia collapsed" - this is definitely a fiction.
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 4 October 2020 21: 40 New
                  0
                  Think what you want, your right, but the fact is the fact of the sequence of events - a shot in Sarajevo, an ultimatum, mobilization, war ...
        2. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 17: 33 New
          -1
          The Bulgarians occupied territories with the Bulgarian population, nothing more, and to moderate the Serbs there were Croats and Hungarians, and partly White emigrants,
          Sorry, I forgot the Italians, they occupied Albania and Kosovo then
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 18: 02 New
            -2
            Quote: Vadim_888
            Bulgarians occupied

            Well. And you said - not accomplices. What other accomplices.
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 39 New
              0
              Does it remind you of Crimea? There is a Russian population there, it became a reason to occupy Crimea by Russian troops, East Polish-Russian population - Vu Al and the partition of Poland, did you like Vyborg - once it is part of the Leningrad region?
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 20: 35 New
                -1
                Quote: Vadim_888
                Does it remind you of Crimea?

                You don't go crazy. We did not take Crimea for Hitler. Unlike the Bulgarians, who aided Hitler looking for their own benefits.
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 4 October 2020 21: 42 New
                  +1
                  So the Bulgarians did not take Macedonia for Hitler, but for the reunification of the people
          2. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 44 New
            -1
            And again, the historical truth hurts someone's eyes ...
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 20: 36 New
              -2
              Quote: Vadim_888
              hurts my eyes.

              Forgive me, but in your case it is not what you embarrassedly try to translate the topic to.
              1. Vadim_888
                Vadim_888 4 October 2020 21: 43 New
                +1
                I do not translate anything, but simply cover aspects that are hushed up in the Russian Federation
        3. pytar
          pytar 5 October 2020 01: 27 New
          +1
          Tell the Serbs and Greeks. In those days the Bulgarians ...

          Respected Vadim, I told you everything correctly. And I will say something else, which you absolutely do not understand! I will not even explain who is right in history! She is always ambiguous, looks different from different sides! For centuries we have been at enmity in the Balkans, fought, killed! Everyone has a long list of historical claims! And all from abroad! So listen - there is no border like this in the European Union! People easily travel, work, rest, buy real estate, do business wherever they want! For centuries we have looked at our neighbors through the sight of a weapon! And only thanks to the European Union, we were able to go and see who our neighbor is! It turned out to be like us! Man! And he also saw that we are people like him! What pretenses can be? You cannot return history, and you should not delve into it obsessively! The European example is very convincing! Germany, France, World Bank and so on, with millions were consumed from time immemorial! It’s impossible to imagine that they will kill each other! We realized that we can live like that too! We have the best relations with Greece, Romania and Serbia / hopefully soon Serbia will also join the EU / in the whole history! And this is super!
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 02: 30 New
            -2
            Quote: pytar
            Vadim, I told you everything correctly

            Oh, well, if some guy from the Internet says so ... laughing

            Quote: pytar
            I will not even explain who is right in history

            Someone can do something. Those who cannot - will gossip.

            Quote: pytar
            We have been at enmity in the Balkans for centuries, fought, killed!

            Yes, you sat quietly under the Turks for many centuries and did not yap. Warriors.
            You can "fight", as history has shown, only on the sly - a jackal for the Nazis where it cannot fly in the face.

            Quote: pytar
            EU <...> it's super!

            The extent to which you know how to serve any master with inspiration - we have long understood.
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 03: 13 New
            -2
            Quote: pytar
            thanks to the European Union <...> What predictions can there be? <...> The European example is very convincing! <...> Shas it is impossible to imagine that they will kill each other! <...> better relations with Greece <...> we hope that Serbia will soon join the EU <...> And this is great!

            I really can't)))). I will even comment on it a second time, I can’t resist.

            1941 year
            Germans: "We must kill the Greeks and Serbs!"
            Bulgarians: "And this is super!"

            2020 year
            Germans: "We must be friends with the Greeks and Serbs!"
            Bulgarians: "And this is super!"

            We are seeing some development in Germany. But in Bulgaria ...

            1. pytar
              pytar 5 October 2020 11: 02 New
              +1
              Oh, well, if some guy from the Internet says so ...

              Aren't you the type from the internet? lol
              I really can't)))). I will even comment on it a second time, I can’t resist.
              1941 - Germans: "We must kill the Greeks and Serbs!" Bulgarians: "And that's super!"
              Year 2020 - Germans: "We must be friends with Greeks and Serbs!" Bulgarians: "And this is super!"


              You drew a fairy tale for yourself and now, you will heal, urraaa ... lol
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 13: 15 New
                -1
                Quote: pytar
                Aren't you the type from the internet?

                Are you really unable to follow that logical chain?

                Quote: pytar
                drew a fairy tale

                This is not a fairy tale. Et "A Brief History of Bulgaria in the XX century".
                And if you are an honest person, then you must admit that the completeness, accuracy and clarity of presentation in this work is "super!"
                1. pytar
                  pytar 5 October 2020 14: 31 New
                  +1
                  Are you really unable to follow that logical chain?

                  Boris, you are not friends with logic. From the word at all!
                  This is not a fairy tale. Et "A Brief History of Bulgaria in the XX century".

                  You have a fairy tale, but to see prices as it is in real life. Read on for health, it may come to you! Andrey is right! good Here's a look at the roots of the problem:
                  https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2017/10/20/738689-bratushki-bratoubiitsami
                  And if you are an honest person, then you must admit that the completeness, accuracy and clarity of presentation in this work is "super!"

                  I am an honest person and that is why I cannot agree with your fairy tales. They write to you about children, not on VO!
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 14: 34 New
                    -1
                    Quote: pytar
                    Boris, you are not friends with logic. From the word at all!

                    Are you a complete humanist? Is it difficult for you to understand the simple idea that one statement is not enough and arguments are needed? ))

                    Quote: pytar
                    how is it in real life

                    Exactly. What the owners tell you, so you live.

                    Quote: pytar
                    I am honest man

                    Did your mother tell you so? She probably also assured you that you are handsome.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 5 October 2020 14: 49 New
                      +1
                      I have two graduates, all of an engineering profile. Objects are developed by me and are available all over the country. Participated with bol. side to the UP project, and going to the BP. But who you are, I'm completely uninteresting! You answered so quickly,
                      then they obviously did not read the link. Okay ... Continue to compose nonsense, the conversation has become pointless.
                      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 14: 55 New
                        -1
                        Quote: pytar
                        Objects are developed by me, there are all over the country

                        You can only sympathize with your country.
                        And where did you get the idea, with all this, that you are here to me, or anyone else - interesting? Why are you suddenly dumping your dull biography on us? Usually people who write smart things are interesting. Able to reason and lead reasoned conversation. And what kind of third-rate sharaga graduated from another neponymi who broadcasting propaganda - no one is interested, believe me.

                        The conversation is over. And this drum roll is super!
                      2. pytar
                        pytar 5 October 2020 16: 30 New
                        0
                        You can only sympathize with your country.

                        My country absolutely does not need your sympathy, Boris. laughing
                        And where did you get the idea, with all this, that you are here to me, or anyone else - interesting?

                        You asked...
                        Are you a complete humanist?

                        ... and I answered. yes You can't even read to yourself! lol
                        The conversation is over.

                        Yes, it's over. yes
          3. Selevc
            Selevc 5 October 2020 14: 22 New
            0
            I really can't)))). I will even comment on it a second time, I can’t resist.

            1941 year
            Germans: "We must kill the Greeks and Serbs!"
            Bulgarians: "And this is super!"

            2020 year
            Germans: "We must be friends with the Greeks and Serbs!"
            Bulgarians: "And this is super!"

            We are seeing some development in Germany. But in Bulgaria ...

            Yes, this is at first glance strange - but you do not look at the very root of this !!! And the root lies in the Balkan wars even before the 1st World War !!! It was then that the "brothers" - the Balkan Slavs together chewed each other's throats !!! And since then, many Balkan countries hate their neighbors more than the Germans and Turks !!!
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 14: 40 New
              -1
              Quote: Selevc
              you don't look

              "You are not watching", "you should not delve into history", etc.
              I'm talking about this, gentlemen. Bulgarians closed their eyes and forgot history - this is the only way they can put up with themselves today. Naturally, we are not going to do this.
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 4 October 2020 17: 10 New
      0
      Bulgarian soldiers fought in Yugoslavia and Greece, seized territories, freeing German units for the war with the USSR. There is no need to tell tales that they were not accomplices, this is an attempt by the Bulgarians to justify their abomination. Jews are not an indicator of complicity, but only demonstrates the level of influence of Jews on Bulgarian society. Bulgaria played on the side of Germany in all worlds. They were and will be accomplices of Germany and enemies of Russia.
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 4 October 2020 17: 42 New
        -1
        In Germany, Jews influenced a lot, and where are they? An abomination, monsieur, is to plant your people in concentration camps on a social basis, and caring for your citizens is an indicator of the level of culture of society
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 5 October 2020 08: 08 New
          -1
          In Germany, the Jews did not influence anything when they killed the communists, the Jews sat and puffed into two holes. An indicator of culture in society is the ability to understand where the truth is and to take its side, and not send troops to neighboring countries in order to kill those who are at war with Hitler and help Nazism there. Serbia and Greece, which fought with Germany and the same Bulgaria to the end, this is an indicator of the culture of society at that time, and not fascist Bulgaria. Since its inception, Bulgaria has been a state - a hyena, like Poland, a vile country with the same population.
          And now about caring for the Jews in Bulgaria: After the occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia by German troops as an allied gratitude for using the Bulgarian territory as a springboard for attacking these countries, Germany in April 1941 transferred Yugoslav Macedonia and Greek Thrace to Bulgaria. About 8000 Jews lived in Macedonia, and about 6000 Jews in Thrace. These Jews, in agreement with the Germans, were deported to death camps by the Bulgarian authorities in 1943. The organization of the deportation was carried out by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Bulgaria, Peter Gabrovsky, and the head of the Committee for Jewish Affairs, Alexander Belev. On March 4, 1943, over 4000 Thracian Jews were arrested and sent to transit camps until March 18-19, 1943. They were then transported to Auschwitz. On March 11, 1943, Macedonian Jews were arrested and sent to a transit camp in Skopje. Eleven days later, 165 of those detained, mainly doctors, pharmacists and foreigners, were released. The rest were deported to Treblinka. 11 Jews from Macedonia and Thrace died in death camps.
          And of course the culture of Bulgaria is evidenced by the fact about additional taxes on Jews, about the nationalization of their property, etc., it is so cultural to leave people without means of subsistence and stripping is as sticky.
          There is no need to shield Bulgaria, it is difficult to find a more vile and hypocritical country, except Poland.
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 5 October 2020 09: 01 New
            +2
            You just forgot to mention that the Germans occupied Macedonia before the Bulgarians, and their units were stationed there, since Germany attacked Greece through Macedonia, in fact, Macedonia was contrasted by the German administration, and it was about the Jews who lived on the territory directly in the interior of Bulgaria itself, so I'm not the facts jerking
            ... , about the nationalization of their property, etc., it is so cultural to leave people without means of livelihood and ripping off as sticky.
            ... Tell this to the descendants of Russian peasants who went through collectivization and genocide, on your territory you did the same, only with your people
            1. Viktor Sergeev
              Viktor Sergeev 5 October 2020 19: 50 New
              0
              Did I forget to mention that the Jews were extradited by the Bulgarian authorities, and Macedonia was included in Bulgaria? And the main thing: yes, we had collectivization, but there was no genocide, read the meaning of this term. There was the Civil War, brother went against brother, then there was a continuation: counter-revolution and class struggle. How is it in Bulgaria, who went to fight for the Jews of Macedonia? Or maybe they sent Bulgarians to Serbia and Greece?
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 4 October 2020 15: 45 New
    -1
    The Bulgarian communists were waiting for that. Comrade Stalin will put the authorities in charge. If in the USSR they stood in brilliant green to this day ...
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 4 October 2020 13: 45 New
    +3
    Where is Macron and Co.?
    Why are Poles and Balts silent?
    Why are there no sanctions?
    Why have they not yet demanded new elections and appointed a government in exile?
  • thinker
    thinker 4 October 2020 13: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    No. The author got confused - the first three were during these 87 days.

    Rightly noted, without any excursions into history. yes
    23.09.2020 Yesterday at about 23:00 in Sofia on Independence Day another protest action began against the government of Boyko Borisov and the chief prosecutor Ivan Geshev. The protesters named her "The Great Popular Uprising 3"... The number 3 means that the first two attempts went to hell ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 4 October 2020 14: 15 New
    +3
    Mass protests, called the fourth Great Popular Uprising, have been going on in Bulgaria for 87 days.
    .. In the first was it reported on the VO or the second?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 4 October 2020 15: 21 New
      0
      I didn't see it on VO, but I could have missed it. But, the fact is that all the news on the network every day ---- and never met. Unclear recourse
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 October 2020 14: 39 New
    -1
    This is a warm-up. Then they will decide what to protest against.
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 4 October 2020 18: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: Pavel57
      Then they will decide what to protest against.

      Money is paid, but the purpose of the protests was not reported:
      Quote: pytar
      In the meantime, Vasil Bozhkov fled to the Emitars and from there he leads one part of the protesters.

      We understand what it means to "lead the protesters" in modern conditions. To what extent has monetization reached - no one even wants to go to a rally for free.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 4 October 2020 14: 47 New
    -1
    Little Bulgaria also wants to be at least something great ...
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 15: 15 New
      +2
      One day will not be applied
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 01: 31 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadim_888
        One day will not be applied

        I know what the word "certainly" means. But what does "not applied" mean? Is this kind of "not applicable"? Those. will not be?
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 5 October 2020 09: 04 New
          +1
          You have a talent in spelling, maybe you should use it for peaceful purposes and go to work in a rural school as a Russian language teacher? ))))))
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 13: 06 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadim_888
            spelling talent

            Well, in general - spelling here is just a way to comment on your level of mental activity from the next side. For a more voluminous presentation, so to speak. So, many smart people misspelled them. But then the smart ones are not critical for them.
  • askort154
    askort154 4 October 2020 14: 54 New
    +2
    The demonstrators proceeded to the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral, and then, after 10 pm, headed to the Eagle Bridge. There, one of the protesters climbed into a traffic light and waved the Bulgarian flag from there.

    And what else can a demonstrator not paid for by the sponsors of the "color revolutions"?
    This is a vivid example of attitudes towards the demands of the people - and who benefits from it ?! Therefore - "Mass protest actions, called the fourth Great Popular Uprising, continue, in Bulgaria for 87 days",modern media are not interested.
    Boring and not "rich" for the media. These are not well-paid, custom-made assignments - about the "aggression" of Russia, "the villain Putin", constantly poisoning those he dislikes,
    type: "Magnitsko-Litvinenko-Skripalino-Bulk".
  • fn34440
    fn34440 4 October 2020 14: 58 New
    -1
    Now the Bulgarian Maidan will weaken Bulgaria and its armed forces, and then Erdogan's janissaries will grab hold of it, according to the scenario already worked out in Syria, Libya, Armenia, Iraq.
    This vulture pecks out weak rivals, potential prey, avenges the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
    1. Bagatur
      Bagatur 4 October 2020 15: 43 New
      +1
      Erdogan is not up to us now ... If after all we clean up the thieves' bastard all the parties, it will be good!
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 4 October 2020 15: 54 New
      0
      Now the Bulgarian Maidan will weaken Bulgaria ...


      This is not a Maidan colleague, in your understanding. And we are both Greeks and Italians, and whoever does not change power across the street and this is not a problem for the economy. She works for herself.

      her armed forces,


      Well, we haven't invested in the army for years and have now started in full:

      - a request for the second eight F16 Block70 has already been sent (about 650 million dollars)
      - new 3D radars for the Air Force - negotiations are underway with Israel (IAI, about 200 million euros), 7 radar systems (5 long-range and 2 medium-range, MS MMR
      - two new corvettes for the fleet - Lursen Verft, about 700 million euros
      - 150 infantry fighting vehicles for the army, the contract will be one of these days - Patria or General Dynamics Land Systems (about 870 million dollars)
      - modernization of 80 pieces of T72 on the way and again probably with Israel, but there is still a project.
      - the modernization of all SU 25s goes with the Belarusians.

      We also produce UAVs of small and medium radius ourselves, with the help of Israel, so we just need to take care of the drummers. In general, our military is quite powerful and the Turks are too tough for us.

      then Erdogan's janissaries will grab hold of her


      Not so likely, but possible. Therefore, time will arm themselves to the teeth. And if the rabid undersultan is thrown out of NATO, it will be absolutely fine.
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 4 October 2020 15: 41 New
    -1
    The first was the anti-Turkish uprising in 1876. The second was raised by the Bulgarian communists in 1923, and the third took place in 1944 and was directed against the fascists. [i] [/ i]

    There are too many uprisings in our history and 1876 is not the first. In 1923 the communes, by order of the Comintern, raised a fence and got hit in the face! As always, many innocent people perished .. 8/9/09.1944 after the Soviet Union declared war on Bulgaria, the communists with the support of the military of the Sofia garrison made a military turn and seized power! All!
    A comedy took place in Burgas ... Our communists came to the Soviet commandant and shouted, "Comrade, my vostali! ... ???? Vostali? Why didn't we get up yesterday?"
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 4 October 2020 16: 48 New
      -1
      A man is preparing for a life-long job and a pension in Brussels. Fine...
  • Coconut
    Coconut 4 October 2020 15: 51 New
    -1
    Lukashenko for the presidency of Bulgaria ... laughing
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 16: 37 New
      -1
      ... Lukashenko for the presidency of Bulgaria .... laughing

      Mayor of Moscow is better
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 17: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadim_888
        Mayor of Moscow is better

        By the way, I do not mind.
        Removing him from the republic (subject to the transfer of affairs to an adequate successor) will help reduce the centrifugal tendencies he is driving there. And Moscow itself is the center, here you cannot overtake such trends. As for the rest - in Moscow the mayor is already Sobyanin - we have nothing to lose in this regard.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 4 October 2020 19: 48 New
          -1
          ... By the way, I do not mind

          There will be a chance that someone in the capital will start creating jobs in the real sector, and not in the service sector
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 October 2020 20: 30 New
            -3
            Quote: Vadim_888
            places in the real sector

            You absolutely do not understand the things about which you are trying to talk publicly.
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 4 October 2020 21: 45 New
              +1
              I just understand very well the things I'm talking about
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 01: 22 New
                -1
                Quote: Vadim_888
                I just understand very well the things I'm talking about

                What kind of nonsense?
                1. Vadim_888
                  Vadim_888 5 October 2020 09: 06 New
                  +1
                  Dear Boris, the time for your comment is very late, you are apparently tired, and in the morning you will be able to comment better))))))
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 13: 23 New
                    -1
                    What kind of nonsense?
                    1. Vadim_888
                      Vadim_888 5 October 2020 17: 36 New
                      0
                      ... What nonsense?


                      Boris, so that the surrounding reality does not seem to you delirium, you need to sleep at night
                      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 October 2020 23: 29 New
                        -1
                        Your delirium surrounds only those who sympathize with your ailment. I'm obviously not one of these
                      2. Vadim_888
                        Vadim_888 6 October 2020 18: 43 New
                        0
                        Boris, you are not at all of any, but your knowledge of spelling will come in handy in a rural school, show patriotism and go to work in the village as a school teacher, there your talent will be 100% happy and nightmares will stop tormenting, go Boris ...
    2. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 October 2020 17: 54 New
      +1
      I can smell the minus workers of the Moscow mayor's office
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 5 October 2020 09: 39 New
    0
    I read it ... and I will insert my 5 kopecks
    Here, a friend from Bulgaria writes that the protests in Bulgaria are completely different than in Belarus ... and how they have everything there is culturally decorous and noble :)
    It's just there Soros and his team didn't fit. Any country, with the availability of money and the preparation and delivery of a certain contingent, can be stirred up to a bloody bath. Relatively speaking ... to pay 500 euros for a beaten policeman and 800 euros for a burnt car and the country will not be recognized :)
    The US Department of State honestly named how much the chaos cost in Ukraine .... $ 5 billion
    Bulgaria is still in the status of "elusive John" :)
    So let them rejoice that they are simply not needed by anyone yet, therefore, everything is not like in Belarus, Libya, Syria, Iraq ...

    And the Kremlin propaganda has nothing to do with it.
  • nnz226
    nnz226 5 October 2020 22: 26 New
    0
    Why are they holding a meeting? Are there any specifics?