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Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him

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World media comment on the statement of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Syria. Erdogan announced that the Turkish army could begin another military operation in the northern regions of the Syrian Arab Republic. This statement was made by the Turkish president during the opening of the Reyhanli dam in Hatay province. According to Erdogan, Turkey will continue to take all measures to ensure security along its southern borders.


Erdogan:

There are still terrorist-controlled zones in Syria. And these areas must be cleared. Turkish troops are ready for this.

It is important to note that in this case, Erdogan understands terrorists as the Kurdish armed groups - primarily the units of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, recognized by Ankara as a terrorist organization.

Commenting on this statement by the Turkish President, experts note that Erdogan "decided to try on the combat helmet of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent." It is noted that Erdogan actually announces his readiness to wage war on four fronts at once: the Syrian, Libyan, Caucasian, as well as the front in the Eastern Mediterranean - "for shelf gas fields." Western experts note that for Erdogan himself, this could end badly, since "such a policy with an emphasis on militarism may eventually lose support from the Turkish public."

Against this background, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan once again announced the Turkish military presence in the zone of the armed conflict in Karabakh. According to the Armenian Prime Minister, about 150 Turkish soldiers are in charge of the actions of the Azerbaijani army. Pashinyan called it an unprecedented attack on Nagorno-Karabakh.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 3 October 2020 18: 29
    +5
    Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him


    Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2020 18: 39
      +7
      That which ends badly for the Sultan has recently become good news for us ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 October 2020 18: 58
        22
        We cannot hope that it will overstrain, it must be stopped and put in place ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 October 2020 19: 29
          +5
          If it was not for it, then we had to invent it. And you are in place wassat drinks
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 October 2020 20: 53
            +5
            Maybe you are right, there are many facets, but we need to isolate the main one ...
          2. Warrior-80
            Warrior-80 3 October 2020 22: 05
            +9
            Oh, if there is a war with the Turks, we must no longer miss such a chance and take the straits and the cradle of Orthodoxy to Byzantium, dreams of course, but what the hell is not joking, more than once have already approached
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 October 2020 22: 38
              +4
              Turkey must self-destruct and their leader is suitable for this.
              1. Shah909
                Shah909 4 October 2020 07: 11
                +1
                Their leader, a real leader. He defends his interests for his people. For my people. Not like ours. Look how much he has done since coming for Turkey. So, self-destruction threatens us more and not their way.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 4 October 2020 08: 04
                  +2
                  In general, he is an unbalanced person. Those. let's call it, mildly, a mental disorder. When there was a coup, before which he was a zits-president and a corrupt official, he certainly received a terrible psychotrauma. He was saved ... here is the one that we have laughing a few minutes before liquidation. And there, how, we sleep, we will cut ... they sleep, we will cut. He destroyed the caste that ruled for a century, his main enemy Gulen in the United States, etc. Therefore, Erdogan apparently does not sleep, he is in a hysterical state. A terrible curse on Turkey ... stick a shovel around and oil will start oozing, and in Turkey it’s a little shish. And the most offensive, all these lands were part of the Ottoman Empire. Another reason for hysteria. Well, now we have what we have. I climbed to all the neighbors with weapons and got spelled everywhere. Sofia converted into a mosque from hopelessness. The economy is tourism dependent and tourism has disappeared. All neighboring countries are boycotting Turkish goods and breaking economic ties. The West is severing economic ties, plus the entire world economy has sagged. Russia spawned it (so that NATO's Southern Front would crack) and supported it with pipes, with the construction of a nuclear power plant, and provided the S-400 for protection. Even worse, the US began to declare an embargo. Well, etc. He does not just make his country worse, but kills. The Russian Federation is also hated by everyone, for being the largest and richest, besides being invincible. But the Russian Federation has nuclear submarines, aerospace forces and strategic nuclear forces. They also hate the United States ... Such is the abstract wassat He may be trying, but everything goes to the abyss.
            2. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 3 October 2020 23: 40
              +1
              Quote: Warrior-80
              Oh, if there is a war with the Turks, we must no longer miss such a chance and take the straits and the cradle of Orthodoxy to Byzantium, dreams of course, but what the hell is not joking, more than once have already approached

              NATO countries will never give up the straits, even if Turkey leaves NATO and we take it apart into cogs. No one in Europe benefits from strengthening the Russian Federation
              1. Warrior-80
                Warrior-80 3 October 2020 23: 48
                0
                This is clear, it is necessary on the story branch when there will be a moment to take it, there were such moments in our history, Erdogan can jump, a new player, at least Israel will not allow, and without him there are enough players
            3. Pravodel
              Pravodel 4 October 2020 16: 29
              0
              it is necessary ... to take the straits and the cradle of Orthodoxy to Byzantium

              The return of Constantinople is the great dream of the entire Russian people and all Orthodox Christians. But the question is, who and how will manage the territory on which Constantinople, Russia is located ?! Despite the fact that the return of Constantinople and the straits is of strategic importance for Russia, but Russia will not be able to manage this territory, there will not be enough forces. Russia already has a separate enclave - Kaliningrad, where, by the way, mostly Russians live. The annexation of Constantinople to the Turkic population will require a change in the ethnicity of the living population, which Russia is unable to fulfill? The transfer of the territory of Constantinople to the Greeks is also not an option. The Greeks have already "pissed away" this territory once. There is no hope that they will be able to retain the annexed territory for a long time, taking into account the economic situation in Greece itself. Likewise, with Bulgaria, where the economic situation is even worse than in Greece, and, as history teaches, the transformation of Bulgaria into a Great Bulgaria does not lead to anything good. So it turns out that the return of Constantinople is a great dream, which so far can only be a dream. For the return of Constantinople, Russia must make another breakthrough in its own development, maybe more than one ...
              1. Galleon
                Galleon 5 October 2020 00: 27
                +2
                You have one but defining imprecision in your reasoning: the return of Constantinople is a great dream Greek people, "noble" tsars instilled in the Russian people. The kings needed access to the Mediterranean Sea, but why do we need it now? Over-the-horizon radar or missile range? We have a lot of our own problems, how else to give Constantinople to the Greeks. Twice there has already been a question in history: if you Russians take Constantinople - you will get a war with Europe - and once you got it! What, everything is itching? Why, may I ask?
            4. Giharka
              Giharka 4 October 2020 18: 10
              +1
              And how many of our guys will die for this crazy dream?
            5. Looking for
              Looking for 4 October 2020 19: 49
              +1
              and how old are you. What are you living with fantasies?
        2. Hwostatij
          Hwostatij 3 October 2020 20: 31
          -6
          Are you going to do this right from the couch? wassat
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 October 2020 20: 53
            +8
            Not out of bed, just like you ...
        3. iouris
          iouris 4 October 2020 11: 15
          -1
          Quote: cniza
          it must be stopped and put in place ...

          Once I saw an excerpt from a film about the army, filmed in the Russian Federation. Episode. The ensign calls on the soldiers to study military science in a real way and issues: "Do I have to defend the Motherland? Why do I need this?" (Something like this)
      2. 210ox
        210ox 3 October 2020 19: 09
        +8
        By the way. Remind me what has ended badly for him lately? They did not leave the north of Syria, muddy the waters in Transcaucasia, they flex their muscles at sea. What ends badly for him?
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 October 2020 19: 26
          21
          In Sirte he was not only stopped, but by very successful pinpoint air strikes. Destroyed Turkish air defense crews and even aircraft. Let's call it the loss of highly qualified specialists and expensive equipment. In the case of Greece, these are Sultan's very soiled trousers. On Syria, it is not just so indignant, the Kurds are working. He sends fighters to AzR, but here it is not easy. He dreamed of Crimea. He dreamed of Syria and pumped oil with fuel-carrying rivers, and then yok. What about the economy? And so it was undermined by the Russian bikot, minus ten billion at once, so here is the coronavirus. And the country is highly dependent on tourism. It’s not only from the Russian Federation, from all the shish, not bakshish. Is it good in Karabakh? Nothing good there. I was subscribed to one arm resource .. there really are heaps of corpses. There the work of snipers is shown, and so on. Blitzkrieg then failed. In short, there is no oil, there is no tourism, unemployment, so everywhere else they gave in to the horns ...
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 3 October 2020 19: 29
            +3
            Thank you :: briefly, but the mood improves markedly.
            Why don't you go to Smirnov - invites you ...?
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 October 2020 19: 47
              +5
              I am illiterate drinks
          2. 210ox
            210ox 3 October 2020 19: 34
            +3
            You know, what you wrote is a trifle for the Turks. Besides tourism, of course. And he has enough resources, especially financial. Moreover, his appetites are not really able to stop. There is no USSR and there is no balance in the world. There is no one to give good bream.
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 October 2020 19: 41
              +6
              Yes, oil is probably more important. Now you have to buy it for tugriks. I used to rob. And even tourism does not give money and also pay money for hydrocarbons. After all, he did not climb to Sirte because of his good life, but for oil. Not for nothing to the Greek islands, but for oil. In Syria, he rocked, and now he is shish. Likewise, AzRu helps with the calculation of oil, with the prospect of connecting it. And here again in the course of shish.
            2. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 3 October 2020 20: 36
              -1
              We now have China the second center of power, so even if he distributes bream, like tiger number 2 (this is an unnamed so said)
              1. 210ox
                210ox 3 October 2020 21: 19
                +4
                Tiger, you say? So he is a specific predator, this China. If there is no interest, don't move. Despite all the SCOs and others like them.
            3. SSR
              SSR 3 October 2020 21: 46
              +2
              Quote: 210ox
              You know, what you wrote is a trifle for the Turks

              I am always amazed at such comments))) the Turks are omnipotent, the lira is everywhere, and how the ruble does not jump from oil prices and simply does not jump, and therefore the Turks with the Russian Federation transferred part of the mutual settlements to the lira-ruble. But comrades persistently write, Turkey is the enemy!
              Does anyone admit the idea that there can be an agreement?
              VVP in general mentioned the delicate aid to Erdogan.
              1. Oleg123219307
                Oleg123219307 3 October 2020 22: 31
                0
                Quote: SSR
                But the comrades persistently write that Turkey is the enemy!
                Does anyone admit the idea that there can be an agreement?

                In our relations with Turkey? If we talk about real prospects, in the event that our leadership stops playing "partners", then of course it can. The act of unconditional surrender of Turkey is called.
                1. SSR
                  SSR 3 October 2020 22: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: oleg123219307
                  Quote: SSR
                  But the comrades persistently write that Turkey is the enemy!
                  Does anyone admit the idea that there can be an agreement?

                  In our relations with Turkey? If we talk about real prospects, in the event that our leadership stops playing "partners", then of course it can. The act of unconditional surrender of Turkey is called.

                  Yeah, and at the same time strategic projects go on their own (only without trying time events) ooo comrade vkurse "real" events and billion-dollar investments and, by the way, in the approval of vacation trips to Turkey.
                  Comrade, I wish you success and please add me to the black list, answer the Experts, unfortunately I cannot. Thanks.
                  1. Oleg123219307
                    Oleg123219307 3 October 2020 22: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: SSR
                    Yeah, and at the same time strategic projects go on their own (only without trying time events) ooo comrade vkurse "real" events and billion-dollar investments and, by the way, in the approval of vacation trips to Turkey.
                    Comrade, I wish you success and please add me to the black list, answer the Experts, unfortunately I cannot. Thanks.

                    I, as probably many others here, are very sorry that our leadership takes exactly this position, and the money for Turkish projects obscures their eyes and conscience. And not everyone, not everyone in Russia forgave the Turks for that plane. I am not a supporter of senseless wars, but Turkey is an enemy, and it is not necessary to clatter with them, but to put them in their place.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 3 October 2020 19: 28
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          What ends badly for him?

          War on multiple fronts is a very risky game. There may simply not be enough resources.
          1. figwam
            figwam 3 October 2020 20: 24
            +1
            Erdogan actually declares his readiness to wage a war on four fronts at once: the Syrian, Libyan, Caucasian, as well as the front in the Eastern Mediterranean - "for shelf gas fields"

            Wow, won't the muzzle crack?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 3 October 2020 20: 44
              0
              You didn’t answer that.
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 3 October 2020 19: 44
          +4
          cniza (Victor)
          Today, 18: 58
          No, I will support Victor, it's not about WHAT the Sultan's behavior ended up in some way: no, it's about his "swing, hand!" has a chance to end badly, because, indeed, he got involved in an impossible task for himself - the construction of the Great Turan with such a dense confrontation of "nesultan forces" along the "limits" of Turan, which he cannot influence - this task is beyond his strength (with excessive emotionality) ...
        4. Warrior-80
          Warrior-80 3 October 2020 23: 18
          +1
          If you recall the history, the complete collapse of Turkey was prevented in the 19th century, only the threat of France and England to enter the war, a second chance when they could do anything with it, after World War II, did not insist and the opposition was great
        5. alexmach
          alexmach 3 October 2020 23: 21
          0
          Remind me what has ended badly for him lately?

          In the Mediterranean, it’s not a fact that they dare to face a real clash. And this is the only potential serious threat to them. And they wage all other wars by someone else's hands. Convenient and with a minimum amount of your own losses. Have you managed to get a decisive victory in either Syria or Libya? Oh, okay, maybe next time it will work out ..
      3. RealPilot
        RealPilot 3 October 2020 19: 15
        +7
        Turkish wide trousers, I wonder, will not tear at the seams?

        But he buries himself.

        It takes militants from Syria to Libya and Azerbaijan, and there are not endless numbers of them. That is, it weakens Idlib, which is at risk of losing.
        Moreover, it displays its own, controlled ones. But the aliens for him, who are there too, will finish off the forces of Assad, and it makes no sense for the Turks to even defend these barmaley.

        Plus, it's not that simple in Libya. Although the Turks carried out very successful operations there. But there are also losses. Plus friction with NATO partners.

        In general, the Sultan himself is his own death! A swing of a million, but a blow ... Let's see ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 October 2020 19: 42
          +3
          The trousers are not, for that they are wide, but what they put on can crack wassat
        2. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 3 October 2020 20: 39
          0
          ... Turkish wide trousers, I wonder, won't tear at the seams?

          That's why they are harem pants so as not to be torn,
        3. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 3 October 2020 22: 29
          +4
          He recently stated that Jerusalem is Turkish, the Turks controlled for 400 years, but left "with tears in their eyes." Promises to return)))
    2. lucul
      lucul 3 October 2020 18: 50
      -3
      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      The Sultan is eager to expand the borders of Turkey to strengthen power inside. Therefore, he checks all the neighbors in battle)))
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 October 2020 18: 57
        +8
        He broke up because no one stops him and this is bad ...
        1. lucul
          lucul 3 October 2020 18: 59
          +2
          He broke up because no one stops him and this is bad ...

          And it always happens when the leader (USA) has grown decrepit, and the youth expands their zones of control. It was like this for millennia)))
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 October 2020 21: 07
            +3
            Nothing changes under the shadow of the world ... yes
          2. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 3 October 2020 22: 50
            0
            And it always happens when the leader (USA) has grown decrepit, and the youth expands their zones of control. It was like this for millennia)))
            Akela missed, Akela missed. Here's what can be said about Turkish tactics.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 3 October 2020 19: 33
          +3
          Bad or good, but states are always harnessed more slowly than we would like - everyone is waiting for the Sultan to piss in shoes for one of them ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 October 2020 21: 08
            +3
            It is understandable that the nature of laziness always sends us to the same rake, and then, and then again all over again ...
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 3 October 2020 21: 31
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              It is clear that nature of laziness always sends us to the same rake, and then, and then again all over again ...

              That's right, Victor. I know from myself laughing
        3. RADIOACTIVE
          RADIOACTIVE 3 October 2020 20: 41
          +3
          They will stop, put a new Sultan, who will be accommodating to everyone except us
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 October 2020 20: 55
            +3
            And this is quite possible, or rather more likely ...
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 3 October 2020 20: 04
        +3
        Quote: lucul
        Therefore, he checks all the neighbors in battle)))

        everyone? the other day - "In the city that we were forced to leave after the First World War, you can still find traces of Ottoman resistance. So Jerusalem is our city, a city from us."
    3. Livonetc
      Livonetc 3 October 2020 19: 05
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him


      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      "Broke away and pours
      The triangle will be drunk!
      Be it a parallelepiped!
      If he was a circle, you are a louse! "
    4. venik
      venik 3 October 2020 21: 21
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him

      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      ========
      And if he DOES NOT WIN at least one of them ...
      1. iouris
        iouris 3 October 2020 22: 37
        -1
        A familiar animal ... Shaw again ?!
    5. halpat
      halpat 3 October 2020 21: 23
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him


      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      the Turkoführer will end badly. tearing a motni on his sultan's shalwar is the most harmless of the possible.
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    7. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 3 October 2020 23: 47
      -4
      Quote: cniza
      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      Interestingly, he is listening to Tsoi? laughing
      Outside the windows again, a white day
      The day calls me to fight
      And I can feel, closing my eyes
      The whole world goes to war against me

      True, Erdogan himself, like Turkey as a whole, is not touched by anyone, on the contrary - they themselves climb everywhere. yes
      There is such a category of people: they are at the door - they are at the window. am As you can see, there are entire countries that adhere to the principle of "impudence is the second happiness." And how has he not yet got into the inter-Korean confrontation? request wassat
    8. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 4 October 2020 09: 08
      +1
      Broke out in earnest, do not stop ...

      Erdogan is a key figure in the Middle Eastern outrage.
      It may sound cruel, but we would benefit from his physical destruction.
      This mustachioed cockroach has scraped up more than one grave of dirty tricks.
      The assassination of our ambassador Karlin, the massacre of the pilots, the constant scam in Syria and gas, the S-400 scam ...
      Now - the Caucasus ...
      If there is no bastard, there will be no neo-Ottoman policy. At least for a while.
      The troops will return to the barracks. Equipment - to storage.
      The Turks will again begin to grow tomatoes and please Russian tourists of Balzac age ...
      Negotiating with him is like nursing a snake on your chest.
      Crush the cockroach! am
      1. prodi
        prodi 4 October 2020 12: 12
        -1
        is it really better to negotiate with the "Caucasian" freak show (and most importantly, more promising)?
  2. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 3 October 2020 18: 29
    12
    The Germans did not pull two fronts into both worlds, and this one swung four)))

    Don't tear your pants, Sultan.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2020 18: 47
      +9
      If you ask him where he fought and what formations he commanded, it becomes clear that having such an enemy is not that pleasant, but somehow painless - along with his murzas, tanks, drones and omnipotence - there are no victories for him listed (like "Battle of Stalingrad", "Kursk Bulge", "Berlin operation" ...).
      Yes, Pristina alone is worth it!
  3. Russ
    Russ 3 October 2020 18: 33
    +7
    And the priest will not break on the British flag ????
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 3 October 2020 18: 41
      +5
      Somewhere the Americans darn ... in spite of the differences .. smile
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 3 October 2020 18: 59
        +3
        Will the torpedo be sewn in? wassat
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 3 October 2020 19: 05
          +1
          With a nuclear engine.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 3 October 2020 21: 33
      +6
      Quote: Russia
      And the priest will not break on the British flag ????

      So all the same they are friends with each other ... against Russia.
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 3 October 2020 18: 34
    -5
    Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him
    This strategist will finish badly. Something smelled like a big war with this strategist. Will force him to climb into Armenia (and I'm not talking about Nagorno-Karabakh) And he will have a New Ottoman Empire. We will have to break through the lands of Azerbaijan to Armenia a land corridor. And the Turkish army into a stall. Erdogan probably understands that no one is going without nuclear weapons. Well, something like that. Around the bush. Tell me that the figure of Erdogan has become generally not profitable as such. And Russia too. If he was saved five years ago. Now ... bully
  5. imobile2008
    imobile2008 3 October 2020 18: 35
    -6
    Dictators love this. And how will our dictator answer?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 3 October 2020 18: 43
      +9
      Will sell another batch of S-400 ... money doesn't smell .. smile
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 October 2020 18: 37
    +9
    Erdogan "on takeoff" ... He caught the courage, and he cannot be stopped until ... he stumbles heavily. We must remember his biography. His character ... Not easy. And even gratitude for the salvation (actually pulled out from under the machines) ... He never felt. This is not typical of him.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 3 October 2020 18: 46
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We must remember his biography. His character ...

      He hits while everyone else is weak. US elections, until the beginning of next year they have no time for world politics, Europe was crippled by the coronavirus crisis, Russia under new and new sanctions. It's time to beat, it was not in vain that he stated that they would come out stronger from this pandemic. When everyone is okay, he will agree, a strategy for all time.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2020 18: 51
      +2
      Any character is broken with a good club, taken in the hand familiar to this business ...
      The S-400 is a pity, but it was predictable on the VO! yes
      Let him try, adenysh, not to return !! am
    3. Anyuta Glorious
      Anyuta Glorious 4 October 2020 00: 36
      +1
      Well, as they say, they wanted the best then. The lesser of the two evils was chosen. If they had not helped him then he would have sat on the Ottoman throne, a type - a US protege. And Turkey would only be at war with the Russian Federation, and so it is at war with everyone, including the Russian Federation.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 3 October 2020 18: 40
    +4
    Erdogan "decided to try on the battle helmet of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent"
    .... No matter how it ends with the fate of "Lightning Bayazet" smile
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 3 October 2020 18: 46
      +6
      I am inclined to believe that ... history teaches nothing ...
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 3 October 2020 19: 27
      -4
      "Lightning Bayazet" was defeated by another Turkic ruler, Tamerlane. It can be said that he was defeated not by others, but by his relatives)
  8. vex
    vex 3 October 2020 18: 43
    +4
    For the undersultan, Idlib was like the Sudetenland for Hitler, Libya - like Czechoslovakia, Karabakh - like Poland before the Drang.
  9. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 3 October 2020 18: 49
    +5
    Goes to Nuremberg, with great speed. Or they will hang him - we'll see.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 3 October 2020 18: 54
      +3
      War is a continuation of domestic politics. The people must be distracted by wars from internal problems. But how much the ordinary Turks have enough jingoistic patriotism, we'll see.
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 3 October 2020 22: 35
        0
        He can also organize an internal front, the Kurds have not gone anywhere, they may want independence)))
  10. paul3390
    paul3390 3 October 2020 18: 49
    +9
    I wonder what he is counting on? The Ottoman Empire will give him hell to reincarnate all the neighbors, without exception. No one needs such happiness for nothing. So it will come out like in an old anecdote - what is friendship of peoples? This is when all together, Russians, Armenians, Greeks, Persians, Bulgarians, Arabs, French, get together and go to beat the Turks ..
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 3 October 2020 19: 07
      +6
      what is friendship of peoples? This is when all together, Russians, Armenians, Greeks, Persians, Bulgarians, Arabs, French, get together and go to beat the Turks ..


      This is not really a joke ... laughing When I hear "Turks" and start going to the military registration and enlistment office, there is Russian, Bulgarian - no matter ...
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 3 October 2020 19: 19
        +8
        I agree. drinks At the word of the Turks, the hand somehow itself reaches for the weapon safe .. What is frankly incomprehensible is why our guarantor Erdogan licks, forgiving what decent countries immediately beat in the face for. Really really hopes for some kind of gratitude and sanity of the Ottomans? What fierce elfism .. fool
        1. Garris199
          Garris199 4 October 2020 01: 43
          0
          With Edik's hands, Russia is fighting for the European gas market. Therefore, he gives the Sultan some freedom in his pranks.
  11. Polymer
    Polymer 3 October 2020 18: 50
    +1
    There are still terrorist-controlled zones in Syria. And these areas must be cleared. Turkish troops are ready for this.

    Yes, it is rightly noted - such zones do exist in Syria. But who will ask the Turkish troops to clear them? Obviously not Assad or Putin. The UN has long been indifferent to the problems of the Syrian peoples. Who else, USA? It is highly unlikely that they will give up the oil wells and the Kurds to boot. Only Erdogan himself remains. But in this case, it will already be the occupation of a neighboring state.
    He was overwhelmed. It's one thing to be friends with Russia against the United States, or vice versa, and it is quite another to oppose everyone. To do this, you must clearly understand that you must have enough resources for decades of war. It is doubtful that Turkey has them.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 October 2020 19: 00
    +6
    So far, in the open, no one has even threatened the Turks .... Egypt mumbled something .... The Russian Federation did not even begin to draw "red" lines. France is involved in PR.
    1. Asad
      Asad 3 October 2020 19: 05
      +2
      I completely agree, everyone has their own hemorrhoids! Until the realization comes, it will be too late!
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 3 October 2020 19: 11
        +1
        Quote: ASAD
        I completely agree, everyone has their own hemorrhoids! Until the realization comes, it will be too late!

        It will be too late for Erdogan.
        Turkey will not pull it.
        And as a result, the Turks themselves will dump him.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 3 October 2020 19: 31
          -2
          Nevertheless, today the Azerbaijani Armed Forces took the village of Madagiz and the city of Agdere (mardakert) These are key places for speedy advancement.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 3 October 2020 22: 11
            +1
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            Nevertheless, today the Azerbaijani Armed Forces took the village of Madagiz and the city of Agdere (mardakert) These are key places for rapid advance

            If using Turkey is one thing, without help is another. Turkey's participation in these matters (and it participates in any way) is never good for the reputation of Azerbaijan. IMHO. request
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 3 October 2020 22: 25
              -1
              The Turks sold us drones. Our officers are trained in Turkey, inside and out. If they meant it, then yes they helped. And so, directly in the battles, the guys of Azerbaijan, and the commanders too. Understand, the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan are not small, and half of the composition is contract soldiers. , who have served for many years, professionals, in particular tankers, artillerymen, etc., are recruited from contract soldiers and in the army they are called Mach.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 3 October 2020 22: 30
                +5
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Turks sold us drones

                The Turks, throughout history, have fought (are fighting) against Russia, killed (kill, Peshkov as an example) Russians. Azerbaijan, accepting the help of the Turks, is joining this row. I do not know how the leadership of the Russian Federation, but the sane part of the population of the Russian Federation clearly understands this and draws conclusions. IMHO.
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 3 October 2020 22: 50
                  0
                  It is similar to the fact that I accused you of brotherhood with the Belarusians. Drones were sold, the Russian Federation sells much more weapons to Azerbaijan, and many officers are being trained in Russia. Well, now what do you order? It's time to understand that a neighbor is not an enemy if he is still friends with another neighbor. The main thing is not to throw stones at each other. Our problem is that you do not see a neighbor in us, we are a vegetable garden for you. The world is changing, you are They didn’t manage to change in ourselves, or didn’t want to. Many problems because of this, in your views to us. And every time as a thread, then you put market traders in our eyes. God grant that you send them to their homelands, so that never there were no more these conversations and reproaches.
                  1. chingachguc
                    chingachguc 3 October 2020 23: 15
                    -1
                    I personally have no claims against Azerbaijan. Quite sane. Much more to the Armenians. What have we done to them wrong that they treat us like that?
                  2. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 4 October 2020 09: 24
                    +2
                    Quote: Oquzyurd
                    It's time to understand that a neighbor is not an enemy if he is still friends with another neighbor

                    It's time to understand that friendship with the enemy is not just friendship with a neighbor, but friendship with an enemy. This applies not only to Azerbaijan.
                    Quote: Oquzyurd
                    Our trouble is that you do not see us as a neighbor, we are for you a garden behind the house

                    I can only say for myself, I don’t want to see you at home, neither one nor the other, you have your own houses built with the help of Russia, so live there, you didn’t have any houses before, you lived alone under the Persians, others under the Turks. Neither one nor the other (Persians, Turks) bothered to build houses for you. And there are constant complaints against the Russians, that the house was not built that way, then the vegetable garden ... But Turkey, the enemy of Russia, was and will be, the corresponding attitude to the enemy.
                    Quote: Oquzyurd
                    The world is changing, you have not mastered this change in yourself, or did not want to.

                    We have changed a lot (here I mean ordinary citizens, not leaders who are temporary), I am no longer the same internationalist that I was before 1990. I repeat, you are all indifferent to me, do not think too much about yourself. I am not interested in you, your garden, I do not want to go there to you and I don’t want to go to me. But Turkey wants to get in, I don't like that.
                    Quote: Oquzyurd
                    .And every time that a thread, then the market traders put it in the eye. God grant that you send them to their homelands, so that these conversations and reproaches never again.

                    Last year I went to one of the markets, where most of them are Azerbaijanis, I felt uncomfortable, to put it mildly, I bought the goods not from them, so I heard not the best wishes about myself, it was stupid to argue, about 50 young people immediately ran up, clearly began to bully. I had to solve issues with 4 opponents, but 40-50 is too much, but I didn’t do anything wrong, I just bought the goods not from Azerbaijanis. I'm tired of this behavior in my country. Very strong, and not for me alone. repeat
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 3 October 2020 19: 47
          +5
          Quote: Livonetc
          Turkey will not pull it.

          Along with the waste of reserves that accompanied the drop in export revenues, Turkey had to increase its external debt. By the end of July, he set another record - 1,72 trillion lira, or $ 234,15 billion, an increase in just a month by 80 billion lira ($ 11,15 billion) ... In seven months, 5,44 million foreigners visited the country tourists - almost five times less than in the same period in 2019, and in August, the decline in foreign tourist traffic was more than 71%. As a result, in addition to the fall in the export of goods, the inflow of the life-giving currency for the Turkish economy and in the service sector sharply decreased ... in August, the largest number of foreigners arrived from Russia (773 thousand), and Ukraine was in third place after Great Britain (256 thousand) .. In August, the Turkish Central Bank announced a new reduction in its reserves, which in aggregate fell to $ 83,8 billion, that is, by $ 10 billion in two months .. However, the figures cited by Moody's definitely indicate that the situation has gone too far ...
          https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/02/geopoliticheskiy-avantyurizm-erdogana-vedet-finansy-turcii-k-krahu
          Patriotism is of course, but in the last elections it had about 53% ... the opposition is close
    2. chingachguc
      chingachguc 3 October 2020 23: 17
      0
      that is exactly what Sultan is counting on. We are waiting for you to kick the Turks out of NATO.
  13. Kapkan
    Kapkan 3 October 2020 19: 10
    +1
    Imagines himself as Sultan Suleiman. Oh well... lol
  14. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 3 October 2020 19: 14
    +2
    Patience is over. Release Gulen ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 October 2020 19: 35
      +5
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Patience is over. Release Gulen ...

      Gulen won't help. Roksolana must be sent to take him in the harem for a long time.
      1. Seaflame
        Seaflame 4 October 2020 03: 48
        +2
        Neither Gulen nor Roxolana will help. Remember the good old aid to the Kurds.
  15. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 3 October 2020 19: 15
    +2
    The roof seems to have gone, the economy of Turkey needs to be beaten, it doesn't seem to be so hot there)
  16. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 3 October 2020 19: 17
    +7
    "This is our city": Erdogan said Jerusalem belongs to Turkey
    http://www.rusfact.ru/node/91880
    1. albert
      albert 3 October 2020 20: 25
      +2
      I wonder what the Jews will say to this.
  17. Alien From
    Alien From 3 October 2020 19: 22
    +3
    Such cases do not end well for anyone ...
  18. Egoza
    Egoza 3 October 2020 19: 38
    +3
    Well? Will it march north-south and west-east? But from some side a brick can fly in! And it's time to put a magnet under the compass.
  19. maktub
    maktub 3 October 2020 19: 49
    0
    Whoever says what, Recep Tayyip Erdogan is a serious comrade
    1. Gado
      Gado 3 October 2020 22: 39
      +2
      This is while he is at war with the weak serious. Sooner or later, he will really get into one of the four fronts, and then we'll see.
  20. Shahno
    Shahno 3 October 2020 19: 56
    -1
    I think that the Turks have many fronts. Always fun to see ....
  21. opuonmed
    opuonmed 3 October 2020 20: 20
    +2
    fellow fights for his interests
  22. Shahno
    Shahno 3 October 2020 20: 29
    +1
    Quote: albert
    I wonder what the Jews will say to this.

    Let them come and take them. And to say that, well, clearly is not enough.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 3 October 2020 20: 37
    +2
    Judging by the fall of the Turkish lira, victories can be postponed soon. Besides politics, there is also the economy, but here there is no smell of victories
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 3 October 2020 20: 56
      +1
      the ruble is also falling, besides
  24. the Saint
    the Saint 3 October 2020 20: 47
    -4
    One thing is good that Putin (through his own efforts) does not have a single ally on the planet, and that the pensioners of Russia are not obliged to share their pennies with any swarthy.
    But you still have to :-(
  25. czes
    czes 3 October 2020 20: 48
    -1
    I started early. I haven't bought the Su-57 yet!)))
  26. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 3 October 2020 21: 02
    -3
    So I try to wanganut:
    1. Who will lose - of course Pashinyan, for Azerbaijan will cut off part of the territory of Artsakh-Karabakh.
    2. Who will win - Aliyev turning the return of part of the territory under his control into an appearance of victory.
    - Moscow, returning Armenia to the wake of pro-Russian politics after Pashinyan's resignation
    - Turkey, having strengthened its positions in Arzeibajan and began penetrating into Central Asia
    1. starley
      starley 3 October 2020 21: 20
      0
      three ha ha for such a wang -
      if only because for Armenian money
      states will stand up against Aliyev with a hired rag.
  27. iouris
    iouris 3 October 2020 21: 14
    +3
    Do you like to relax in Turkey? Bring your hard-earned money.
    1. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 4 October 2020 20: 37
      0
      Fair exchange. There money for a buffet and lying belly up on the sand, back the coronavirus. All tip-top. Well it is necessary, - already 733 thousand managed to hit the road there after the partial lifting of restrictions. Of course, each of them left at least a couple of thousand civilian tugriks. Total $ 1.5 Limard in Turkey alone at a conservative estimate. And they say - alegarchs take out, alegarchs take out ... And from the Nord Stream, they say, such a terrible ruin.
  28. starley
    starley 3 October 2020 21: 17
    0
    it's time for the Sultan to form the First Nail Corps -
    and keep him at the gates of Constantinople,
    because God really wants to see the nailed Russian shield on those gates.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 4 October 2020 04: 44
      -2
      Quote: starley
      God really wants to see the nailed Russian shield on those gates.
      Actually, their religion is the same Abrahamic. So "God" does not matter, logically.
  29. Moskovit
    Moskovit 3 October 2020 22: 03
    +3
    All this is wonderful. But what is going on with us? The ruble is diving. The prices are the opposite. Again, covid comes and smacks of another destructive quarantine.
    A. Yes. Turkey is in trouble too)
  30. Tank hard
    Tank hard 3 October 2020 22: 06
    +3
    "Sultan" may well overstrain, especially if you help him with this, such as stop going to Turkey on vacation or buy different tomatoes. But this requires conscience and will, and money suppresses these concepts, alas .. request
  31. chingachguc
    chingachguc 3 October 2020 23: 06
    0
    appetite comes with eating)) we will wait until the sultan is kicked out of NATO. He already got everyone.
    1. starley
      starley 4 October 2020 01: 29
      +1
      They themselves will never be thrown out - they do not want the Turks, but the straits.
  32. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 4 October 2020 01: 07
    -1
    Turkey rushes to decay
  33. Kapral Alphych
    Kapral Alphych 4 October 2020 04: 24
    +1
    "Try on the Battle of Suleiman the Magnificent")))
  34. musorg
    musorg 4 October 2020 12: 05
    0
    This is = everything can end badly = like a saying in which it is not known whether it will end badly or when at all. Like the dollar will collapse soon.
  35. tank64rus
    tank64rus 4 October 2020 16: 25
    0
    Since Pashanyan began to talk about the Turkish military, it means that the Armenians have a hard time.
  36. fif21
    fif21 4 October 2020 18: 10
    0
    It looks like the church of St. Mary in Constantinople will again be Orthodox. hi
    1. fif21
      fif21 4 October 2020 19: 39
      0
      Quote: fif21
      It looks like the church of St. Mary in Constantinople will again be Orthodox. hi

      I beg your pardon for Maria! Of course, the temple of St. Sophia. repeat
  37. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 4 October 2020 18: 19
    -1
    Turkey will default and disintegrate immediately after the collapse of the world's dollar and other debt systems. Which, in its own way, will happen in connection with the civil war and the collapse of the United States after the November elections. USA, Turkey, dollar status left to live from 1.5 to 4 months
  38. venaly
    venaly 5 October 2020 18: 28
    0
    His turban will fly off the undersultan. Will finish badly.