The Armenian side announced a successful counteroffensive in one of the directions in the conflict zone

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The Armenian side announced a successful counteroffensive in one of the directions in the conflict zone

The press service of the Armenian Defense Ministry is spreading messages that the Azerbaijani offensive has been stopped. It should be noted that it was the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Armenia that announced the offensive of the Azerbaijani troops. According to Shushan Stepanyan, press secretary of the departments, the defense forces of Artsakh (the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) "managed to stop the large-scale attack of the enemy that had begun."

According to Shushan Stepanyan, heavy defensive battles are going on in several directions, and in one direction the NKR army counterattacked enemy forces.



The statement of the press secretary of the Armenian military department says that "the enemy's plans in one of the directions have suffered a complete fiasco." At the same time, it was announced that as a result of the counter-offensive of the NKR troops, Azerbaijani units suffered serious losses both in manpower and in military equipment.


The footage shows the use, in particular, of anti-tank missile systems.

Meanwhile, the Azerbaijani side declares its own successes. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry is showing footage showing the destruction of Armenian armored vehicles in the conflict zone.


As seen, Drones The Azerbaijani Armed Forces are also shooting in the infrared range, which increases the chances of detecting it.

Judging by the developing events, the conflict is far from over, and the parties clearly do not intend to sit down at the negotiating table under current conditions. Each side expects concessions exclusively from the opponent.
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  1. +7
    3 October 2020 16: 27
    The Armenians cannot withstand this war. This is already clear, but the Kremlin is right and is doing that it stands aside.
    1. +1
      3 October 2020 16: 34
      Will stand. Armenians have a higher spirit. The Azeris have a better equipped army, but supplies from the Russian Federation do not stop here.
      If the Kremlin listens to you, it will hand over the Caucasus to the Yankees, through the Turks, of course.
      1. +11
        3 October 2020 16: 43
        If there are hidden supplies from the Russian Federation, this will soon change the situation. There are already enough lively strong-minded soldiers there, they go into battle with an open visor.
        1. +9
          3 October 2020 16: 54
          Quote: finish
          There are already enough lively strong-minded soldiers there, they go into battle with an open visor.





          1. +10
            3 October 2020 17: 04
            There are women in the frame, they are also fighting.
            1. +8
              3 October 2020 17: 08
              Quote: finish
              There are women in the frame, they are also fighting.




              Armenian girls-volunteers in NKR.

              Chicherin in the NKR, I had to listen to her at a field concert in the DPR ...

              1. +4
                3 October 2020 17: 32
                Chicherina came under fire there and disappeared from communications
                Quote: Insurgent
                Chicherin in NKR
                1. +10
                  3 October 2020 17: 33
                  Quote: Cowbra
                  Chicherina came under fire there and disappeared from communications

                  Let's hope it will cost ...
                  1. -41
                    3 October 2020 17: 45
                    We hope that it will not be enough, otherwise why this news?
                    1. 0
                      3 October 2020 18: 49
                      Judging by the developing events, the conflict is far from over, and the parties clearly do not intend to sit down at the negotiating table under current conditions. Each side expects concessions exclusively from the opponent.

                      Although the blitz-krieg of Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh was thwarted by the Armenians, alas, the WAR is just beginning there.
                      Pashinyan's pro-Western Armenia, focused on cooperation with NATO, was not ready for this war.
                      What is most striking is that there is practically no Azerbaijani population in Nagorno-Karabakh. 30 years after the last Armenian-Azerbaijani war have already passed! Why does Azerbaijan need Nagorno-Karabakh, which has settled down over the past XNUMX years?

                      Nagorno-Krabakh is needed not so much by the Azerbaijanis as only by the Turkish Ottoman Erdogan - and together with his vassal Aliyev, who is pressed under him!

                      Armenian-Azerbaijani War 2020: The Diplomatic Encirclement Of Armenia. 1 oct. 2020
                      1. +9
                        3 October 2020 21: 52
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        What is most striking is that there is practically no Azerbaijani population in Nagorno-Karabakh.

                        And what amazes you ?! The Armenians drove them out of there. You know ethnic cleansing
                      2. +2
                        3 October 2020 23: 10
                        Quote: Stirbjorn
                        And what amazes you ?! The Armenians drove them out of there. You know ethnic cleansing

                        Since 1990, the Azerbaijanis themselves have been brilliant in ethnic cleansing.

                        See the video "Genocide of Russians and Armenians in Azerbaijan Baku 1990. May 10, 2018 "
                        https://yandex.ru/video/preview?text=%D1%8D%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5%20%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD%20%D0%B2%20%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1601753950921306-211658631529930084200101-production-app-host-man-web-yp-355&wiz_type=vital&filmId=5081169260764942431

                        Operation Ring 1991. Film. Russia and Azerbaijan in the ethnic cleansing of the Armenians of Artsakh (Karabakh). • 17 Nov. Dec 2019
                      3. +3
                        4 October 2020 09: 09
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Since 1990, the Azerbaijanis themselves have been brilliant in ethnic cleansing.

                        ethnic cleansing was in both directions, I do not argue. Why are you so pushing against Azerbaijan? But Karabakh, and 6 regions of Azerbaijan along the perimeter from it, remained in the hands of the Armenians, following the results of that war, so the absence of the Azerbaijani population in them is understandable
                      4. +1
                        4 October 2020 14: 32
                        Quote: Stirbjorn
                        ethnic cleansing was in both directions, I do not argue. Why are you so pushing against Azerbaijan? But Karabakh, and 6 regions of Azerbaijan along the perimeter from it, remained in the hands of the Armenians, following the results of that war, so the absence of the Azerbaijani population in them is understandable

                        So if Azerbaijan did not engage in the construction of a MONOnational Nazi state, as Erdogan did in Idlib and as the Ottoman Empire did in 1920, then there would not have been an uprising of national minorities - the same Armenians within Azerbaijan !!!

                        1. Why does not Aliyev recognize that Nagorno-Karabakh could not be recognized as an Armenian Autonomous Republic within Azerbaijan? NK is formally a part of Azerbaijan even now.
                        After all, for 30 years, Azerbaijan was able to - did not want - to solve and settle this very issue and did not recognize the genocide of Armenians in NK by the Azerbaijanis!
                        2. Why doesn't Aliyev admit that he is implementing the Turkish Ottoman policy in Azerbaijan, represented by Erdogan?
                        3. Why does Aliyev not recognize that the leadership of the Turkish generals dominates in the General Staff of Azerbaijan?
                        4. Why does Aliyev not recognize the help of Turkey in the composition of manpower from the pro-Turkish militants from the banned terrorist organizations, which Erdogan sent to Azerbaijan by hundreds to fight N. Karabakh from Idlib?
                        5. Why doesn't Aliyev say that mainly representatives of national minorities of Azerbaijan are sent to the front - to the war with NK - in Azerbaijan?
                        6. Why does Azerbaijan use banned cluster shells and bombs against the civilian population of Armenia?
                        7. If Erdogan wins this war, then who will Aliyev himself become for Erdogan, and Azerbaijan for Erdogan's Turkey? Turkish Gauleiter in Azerbaijan over the Turkish colony - i.e. over Turkish Azerbaijan?
                        8. Why is Aliyev lying?
                      5. 0
                        4 October 2020 14: 55
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        1. Why does Aliyev not recognize that Nagorno-Karabakh could not be recognized as an Armenian Autonomous Republic within Azerbaijan?

                        So he is ready to admit it. It was Karabakh who at one time renounced autonomy and proclaimed independence. And Pashinyan here spoke to his parliament on this matter. To which the Armenian MPs said that they would never recognize the autonomy of Karabakh within Azerbaijan.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        After all, for 30 years, Azerbaijan has been able to - did not want to - solve and settle this very issue.

                        just wanted, only the Armenians stand on the independence of Karabakh + 6 Azerbaijani regions around the perimeter.
                        I skip points 2-4, because this is nonsense
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        5. Why doesn't Aliyev say that mainly representatives of national minorities of Azerbaijan are sent to the front - to the war with NK - in Azerbaijan?
                        So you will decide - a mono-state of Azerbaijan or there are still national minorities
                        6-8 again nonsense
                        Again, you are missing the point that the Armenians also genocide Azerbaijanis, including peaceful ones.
                        hi
                      6. -1
                        4 October 2020 15: 18
                        Quote: Stirbjorn
                        So you will decide - a mono-state of Azerbaijan or there are still national minorities
                        I did not write that Aerabijdzhan is a MONO state. The Azerbaijan SSR was a multinational state. However, after the collapse of the USSR, it began to turn into a MONOnationalist state. Hence all the national problems in Azerbaijan.
                        I wrote that it is MONO-state that is being built in Azerbaijan. And name.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        So if Azerbaijan did not engage in the construction of a MONOnational Nazi state, as Erdogan did in Idlib and as the Ottoman Empire did in 1920, then there would not have been an uprising of national minorities - the same Armenians within Azerbaijan !!!
                        And clause 5 fully and completely corresponds to this nationalist policy.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        5. Why doesn't Aliyev say that mainly representatives of national minorities of Azerbaijan are sent to the front - to the war with NK - in Azerbaijan?


                        URGENT | War in Karabakh | Terrorists at the Russian border | SMERSH 2.10.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX
                      7. -1
                        4 October 2020 19: 50
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        URGENT | War in Karabakh | Terrorists at the Russian border | SMERSH 2.10.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

                        Ahhh, Solovyov - well damn it's clear where you get your inspiration from wassat
                      8. 0
                        4 October 2020 18: 25
                        Aren't ethnic cleansing of Russians in Azerbaijan astonishing? Of all the Caucasian republics (not counting Chechnya), Azerbaijan has distinguished itself with the greatest cruelty against the Russian population. If in Georgia the bloodshed was nevertheless caused primarily by territorial conflicts, then in Baku Russians were killed in January 1990 only because they were Russians.
                      9. 0
                        4 October 2020 19: 49
                        Quote: sailor Roman
                        Aren't ethnic cleansing of Russians in Azerbaijan astonishing? Of all the Caucasian republics (not counting Chechnya), Azerbaijan has distinguished itself with the greatest cruelty against the Russian population.

                        Ethnic cleansing of Russians is striking everywhere. This is the tragedy of the collapse of the USSR, like that of Yugoslavia. By the way, the Russian population in Azerbaijan is ten times more than in Armenia, even after all the purges. In general, there are practically no national minorities in Armenia - I really don't know why.
                        By the way, if you use a fragment of an article, then at least highlight it with quotes, if not the author
                      10. +1
                        3 October 2020 22: 47
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        but alas the WAR is just beginning there.
                        Pashinyan's pro-Western Armenia, focused on cooperation with NATO,

                        As the saying goes, here you understand about sausage scraps and write))))).
                        Where is NATO and where is Armenia? Armenia is a member of the CSTO and it does not even have a hint of NATO membership, unlike Georgia and Azerbaijan. And yet, there is no war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, there are military actions of the Azerbaijani army with the separatists of Karabakh, that is, with the unrecognized republic of NG.
                      11. SSR
                        +1
                        6 October 2020 12: 13
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        only to the Turkish Ottoman Erdogan - and together with his vassal Aliyev, pressed under him!

                        Well, Aliyev decided not to step on the rake of Lukashenka with 30 "Wagnerites", decided the popular discontent with himself, to distract his beloved with a war, preferably a victorious one, inscribe himself in history and again become a favorite hero of the people for 10 years.
                        I once noted that in the fired cities of Azerbaijan and the NCOs of Stepanakert, in NCOs, cars are richer bulut (although the lion's majority are stolen, imkha)
                        But cars in the cities of Azerbaijan are five to seven orders of magnitude worse than in the same Kyrgyzstan, where there are no Lada of the 80s from the word at all.
                    2. -2
                      3 October 2020 19: 05
                      We hope then that this world will manage without you, here is not a man ...
                    3. -5
                      3 October 2020 21: 57
                      Quote: Deck
                      We hope that it will not be enough, otherwise why this news?

                      Apparently, Donetsk did not manage
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              2. -23
                3 October 2020 18: 33
                Now I will cry, you go still trance Lilit Martirosyan in Yerevan, take off in a camouflage bikini and with a combat strap in hand, Armenian propagandist. One lady, dressed in camouflage, was standing up near the trenches, also posed, aiming towards Azerbaijan, let her do the same now.
                1. +4
                  3 October 2020 18: 50
                  What, woke up, night shift? It's time to go to the track, is work calling? No wonder they complained in your Rada that your country has become a sexodrome for the Turks))) They will receive tips from Russian tourists - and they are buzzing on them on the outskirts, on the Wild Field, fuck, there is only one place to make money now)))
                  1. -16
                    3 October 2020 19: 09
                    Your address was wrong.
                    1. +6
                      3 October 2020 19: 35
                      Yeltsin Center? laughing So the owner is one ...
                2. +6
                  3 October 2020 18: 52
                  You might think there is a deficit in Baku with trans.
            2. +2
              3 October 2020 17: 33
              Where are you without women
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              2. -2
                4 October 2020 01: 09
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                Where are you without women

                I think no one would refuse women in barracks. True, it is not necessary to dress up in camouflage. Rather, on the contrary, they would look better in lace.
            3. 0
              3 October 2020 18: 47
              And they are not bad at war. During the first conflict, in the early 90s, such things were done that the men fell into a stupor.
          2. +3
            3 October 2020 18: 51
            The second video shows the famous pop singer Razmik Amyan. He is a laureate of many Russian competitions - New Wave, Slavianski Bazaar, etc.
        2. -33
          3 October 2020 17: 04
          Quote: finish
          If there are hidden supplies from the Russian Federation, this will soon change the situation. There are already enough lively strong-minded soldiers there, they go into battle with an open visor.

          And they die in batches with him ... yeah. The Armenian army is NOT AFFECTED BY THE WORD AT ALL. Moreover, the command staff there is also as dense as 12 o'clock in the morning, not understanding what the tactics and strategy of modern warfare are. And this illiteracy cannot be covered with a fighting spirit.
          I'll give you a simple example ... 41 years old, the Red Army is suffering colossal losses in equipment and manpower. Why? There is no combat experience, no strategy, no tactics ... and what's the point that at that time, the Red Army outnumbered the army of the Third Reich?
          1. +5
            3 October 2020 17: 44
            Quote: NEXUS
            I'll give you a simple example ... 41 years old, the Red Army is suffering colossal losses in equipment and manpower. Why? There is no combat experience, no strategy, no tactics ... and what's the point that at that time, the Red Army outnumbered the army of the Third Reich?

            they mentioned tactics, but you yourself are engaged in bookkeeping
            1. -13
              3 October 2020 17: 53
              Quote: poquello
              they mentioned tactics, but you yourself are engaged in bookkeeping

              Not only ... my opponent is talking about the fighting spirit of the Armenian soldier. The Russian soldier had no less than 41 fighting spirit in the 45st ... however, our soldiers died in the millions. Why? I think you know what the answer is.
              1. +3
                3 October 2020 18: 01
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: poquello
                they mentioned tactics, but you yourself are engaged in bookkeeping

                Not only ... my opponent is talking about the fighting spirit of the Armenian soldier. The Russian soldier had no less than 41 fighting spirit in the 45st ... however, our soldiers died in the millions. Why? I think you know what the answer is.

                where did they get about the fighting spirit in the 41st?, the border guards fought with their teeth and the rest had heroes, but there were also surrenders and flight, etc., this is a war. Just for the first six months, the keys were selected for the new German tactics.
                1. -3
                  3 October 2020 18: 06
                  Quote: poquello
                  where did you get about the fighting spirit in 41m?

                  Uff ... Well, let's think together ... Brest Fortress, the defense of Sevastopol, the defense of Odessa, the defense of Leningrad ... enough? Well, I can give you examples of 41 years at least until the morning.
                  Quote: poquello
                  Just for the first six months, the keys were selected for the new German tactics.

                  Just in the first half of the year, they were collecting, in fact, rags from the army, withdrawing from the boilers not only divisions and regiments, but armies.
                  1. +2
                    3 October 2020 18: 23
                    and what "uff"? Bialystok, Vitebsk, Vyazma, and Kerch was in front of Sevastopol.
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Just in the first half of the year, they were collecting, in fact, rags from the army, withdrawing from the boilers not only divisions and regiments, but armies.

                    they learned to swing quickly with their fists, and did not learn - they would be beaten again, do not collect
                  2. +5
                    3 October 2020 21: 04
                    Nexus, stop acting up. Of course, the RA Armed Forces are far from the Red Army as well as the Azerbaijan Armed Forces from the Wehrmacht. Outside the border of Karabakh, the Armenian soldiers have homes and families. They have nowhere to retreat. Azeris and Turks and Syrian barmaley will tear with teeth and nails. By the way, there are already dead among the latter.
                    1. -2
                      3 October 2020 21: 13
                      Quote: newbie
                      Outside the border of Karabakh, the Armenian soldiers have homes and families. They have nowhere to retreat.

                      Stop talking outright nonsense. De jure Karabakh is the land of Azeybarjan! The Armenians have where to retreat, to their territories.
                      Or with Crimea, we are right in everything, because ours is historically, but with Karabakh, Baku is not right in any way?
                      I repeat, the Kremlin will allow Azeibarjan to finish what he started ... that is, to win HIS OWN. And there are no Downs in Baku, realizing that this is ONLY Karabakh, and therefore the Azeybardjan army will not advance a centimeter further than Karabakh, realizing that then the Russian Federation will intervene.
                      This is with regards to the interests of Baku, while the interests of the Russian Federation are to prevent a full-scale war on its borders, ... to remove the pro-American Pashinyan from the throne, and to gain a foothold in Armenia for a long time, establishing a peacekeeping contingent there. Here is the balance of power.
                      And those who drown for Armenia, let them remember about Crimea. Karabakh is historically an Azeybardjan land.
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                      4. +7
                        4 October 2020 01: 20
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        And the interests of the Russian Federation are to prevent a full-scale war on its borders, ... to remove the pro-American Pashinyan from the throne, and to gain a foothold in Armenia for a long time, establishing a peacekeeping contingent there. Here is the balance of power.

                        This is one side of the coin. Most acceptable for Russia. But there is another - not very pleasant. In case of loss of Karabakh by Armenia, the main part of Azerbaijan, Karabakh and Nakhichevan are united into one large territory. With access to the borders of Turkey. With all the resulting logistics and opportunities for economic, political and military relationships. Up to the unhindered transfer of troops and weapons. Azerbaijanis have already become satellites of Turkey, and after that, since the Turks provided them with military assistance, they become complete mongrels of Turkey. Automatically Turkish troops go to the border with Russia in Dagestan (note - a NATO member) and on the Caspian coast. Azerbaijan will gladly provide them with a place for its naval base. Is it worth the candle? So they are now thinking in the General Staff - which is better - to protect the pro-Western Pashinyan and defend Karabakh, or to lose Karabakh, but to squeeze Pashinyan out?
                      5. +4
                        4 October 2020 01: 46
                        Even with the capture of Artsakh, Azerbaijan will not unite with Nakhichevan. Armenian Zangezur (Syunik) will interfere.
                        But Azerbaijan will not see Artsakh either.
                        For 7 days of intense fighting, having lost a large number of people and equipment, Azerbaijan rejoices, they say, "We took Magadiz !!!!!!". From the starting point to Magadiz, for a minute, 4,5 kilometers. Magadiz is the very beginning of the foothills. It is unlikely that it will be easier further, given the relief. Therefore, in my opinion, it is somewhat premature to unite with Turkey.
                      6. +1
                        4 October 2020 02: 57
                        [quote = genisis]
                        For 7 days of intense fighting, having lost a large number of people and equipment, Azerbaijan rejoices, they say, "We took Magadiz !!!!!!". From the starting point to Magadiz, for a minute, 4,5 kilometers. Magadiz is the very beginning of the foothills. It is unlikely that it will be easier further, given the relief. Therefore, in my opinion, it is somewhat premature to unite with Turkey.

                        Thanks for the map. premature glee now becomes clearer
                      7. 0
                        4 October 2020 05: 19
                        One question is the infantry of Azerbaijan at least learned something in recent years or, as before, a sad sight?
                      8. +3
                        4 October 2020 11: 05
                        here we must also understand from what moment this territory belongs to Azerbaijan. So, if you think about it, almost half of Turkey is the territory of Armenia. Moreover, quite recently, no Azerbaijan existed. The funny thing is that even a people like the Azerbaijanis never existed and still does not exist in essence.
                      9. 0
                        5 October 2020 16: 07
                        Oh, these "de jure". There is the way it wants to, and there is the way IT IS. And all "de jure", sucked out of the fingers (and from both sides), become insignificant. Let it be a "war for the return of territories" on the part of Azerbaijan, but in this period, given the situation of the population of these territories, it is a war of conquest, whatever one may say. Certainly not a "liberation war". This is a war for "clearing the territory of Armenians", that is, genocide, another genocide, pendulum in the opposite direction. Yes, there were ethnic cleansing on both sides, and the Armenian side can be even more disgusting, although there is no point in comparing the degree of bestiality. But this has happened. God punishes Armenian politicians for the previous greed, who seized the Azerbaijani regions in the NKR. And God will punish the Azerbaijani politicians who thoughtlessly thrust the heads of their people into the heat of the interethnic war. The chance of resettlement / demarcation of the demarcation line within the NKR was lost long ago, and through Armenian fault. Now both sides will wash themselves in blood until the possession of the disputed territories loses its meaning, and then the neo-Sultan Turkey will take them.
          2. +12
            3 October 2020 18: 04
            Quote: NEXUS
            Did the Red Army outnumber the Army of the Third Reich?

            Oga, so superior that the entire number of the Red Army at that time was 5 million people, of which 3 million were in the theater (the rest were in the Far East, etc.), the Germans, together with their allies and reserves, were leading almost 5 million to us, and this is not counting those who stayed Europach ...
          3. -4
            3 October 2020 20: 54
            Quote: NEXUS
            and what's the point that at that time, the Red Army outnumbered the army of the Third Reich?
            They fight not by number, but by skill, at that time the skill of the Germans was higher. Do not confuse a finger with a banana, the Union at that time did not have such military advisers as Armenia has today!
          4. +3
            3 October 2020 21: 25
            And how did the Red Army win then?
            Forty-first year is deployment preemptive. During the first two weeks of the war, there are no regiments, divisions and corps staffed according to wartime states, that is, they are limitedly combat-ready or not at all combat-ready. The troops were not deployed to wartime states because this requires mobilization, and it would provoke a war like in 1914, the next day.
          5. +4
            3 October 2020 22: 09
            Why not combat capable? Ezhe has been fighting for six days with superior forces and the army dominating the Az army. And far they have advanced !!!
            1. -4
              3 October 2020 22: 49
              Quote: Dimon71
              And far they have advanced !!!

              By the end of the day - 14 settlements. And this despite the fact that they take care of their personnel - they work UAVs, art, bypass reinforced positions, knock out the equipment and personnel of the enemy.
              1. +3
                4 October 2020 01: 48

                Here is the actual progress on the map.
          6. +4
            4 October 2020 00: 08
            Quote: NEXUS
            and what's the point that at that time, the Red Army outnumbered the army of the Third Reich?

            In what place did she surpass him, you may ask?
        3. +2
          3 October 2020 17: 21
          Quote: finish
          There are already enough lively strong-minded soldiers there, they go into battle with an open visor.

          You, what?) Do you think they are shooting a blockbuster there?)
          What are you peeping about? are you aware of it?
          There people are dying now! Just wearing helmets.
        4. SSR
          +1
          3 October 2020 20: 50
          Quote: finish
          If there are hidden supplies from the Russian Federation, this will soon change the situation. There are already enough lively strong-minded soldiers there, they go into battle with an open visor.

          Russia will not do this. To stand on one of the sides under the legal right of Azerbaijan is simply utter stupidity, but there are others who consider Turkey their competitor, this is Iran.
          Iran will help both its weapons and Chinese. Again, I feel sorry for the simple on both sides, wars start when the politicians are at the bottom.
        5. 0
          3 October 2020 21: 48
          Alas, there are no hidden supplies from Russia to Armenia and there will never be.
        6. +4
          3 October 2020 23: 51
          If there are hidden supplies from the Russian Federation, this will soon change the situation.


          Can you at least wait for Armenia to come to the war before harnessing Russia? In fact, now the Azerbaijani army is fighting with the local militia, and not with the armed forces of Armenia. There is no war as such, no one has declared it. The armed forces of Armenia are not involved. There is not even basic air defense support. Not a damn thing yet. And thank God not yet. They have Pashinyan, he was eager for the presidency - go ahead, it's time to decide. He hopes that it will resolve itself, the locals will somehow settle their small homeland, and he will sit on his horse and receive the parade. The scoundrel, shits - and sits silent.
      2. +23
        3 October 2020 16: 45
        Well, Armenia is certainly white and fluffy. If anything, in 2019, the Armenian authorities banned the update of 102 databases.
        West expects Pashinyan to withdraw Russian base and withdraw from CSTO

        Or this:
        Yerevan bluffs raising issue of 102nd Russian military base withdrawal

        Pashinyan continues to use the method of blackmailing Moscow, which has proved to be successful under Sargsyan, in order to obtain additional funds from it.

        In Armenia, more and more often voiced theses about the need to revise the military agreement with Russia, which will lead to the withdrawal of the Russian 102nd military base from the country... In this connection, the leader of the Prosperous Armenia Party Gagik Tsarukyan stated that the current authorities are ruining Armenia. In his opinion, the withdrawal of the base from Armenia may cost this country its statehood.

        Or this:
        Action was staged in Armenia demanding to withdraw Russian military base from Gyumri


        1. +4
          3 October 2020 16: 47
          And who said about "fluffiness"? In the previous article I have already expressed my opinion that these are the operas of the "Anaconda" plan.
          1. +1
            3 October 2020 17: 27
            Quote: newbie
            In the previous article I have already expressed my opinion that this is an opera part of the Anaconda plan.

            Anaconda?!
            Tell Pashinyan.
            1. -2
              3 October 2020 21: 06
              Run away yourself, like a hog. Although I do not advise, Pashinyan is a puppet.
        2. +1
          3 October 2020 18: 34
          Quote: donavi49
          West expects Pashinyan to withdraw Russian base and withdraw from CSTO

          Yes, not the West in general, but the Soros. But in the West there are those whom Soros has already got.
        3. 0
          3 October 2020 21: 00
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, Armenia is certainly white and fluffy. If anything, in 2019, the Armenian authorities banned the update of 102 databases.

          And what is there, in the last picture, that makes the flag independent ?! Not talking about anything? All the former Soviet republics are shaken by the West, creating anti-Russia out of them, therefore, these rallies should be viewed as an inevitable, but, if desired, easily liquidated evil! Liquidation depends on the will of those in power. In Belarus they wanted it today, and tomorrow they will show it.
      3. -11
        3 October 2020 16: 46
        probably that's why they prefer to give up)
        1. +12
          3 October 2020 17: 02
          And these are definitely Armenians, not a staged shot!
          1. +12
            3 October 2020 17: 38
            Quote: tralflot1832
            And these are definitely Armenians, not a staged shot!


            Who are you asking this question? A fake jerk?

            Quote: uran
            “Meanwhile, in the pillbox, the Armenian soldiers are chained so that they do not run away

            1. -15
              3 October 2020 17: 53

              Keep the fake hitter
              1. +10
                3 October 2020 18: 02
                Quote: uran

                Keep the fake hitter


                Well you give laughing ... Indian film concern Bollywood, together with "White Helmets" - REST ...
              2. +2
                3 October 2020 19: 12
                specially half-dressed socks ??? Choose your leg ??
          2. -12
            3 October 2020 17: 42
            No, it's ninja turtles sorry for the sarcasm. Certainly not a staged shot

            1. SSR
              +1
              3 October 2020 20: 58
              Quote: uran
              No, it's ninja turtles sorry for the sarcasm. Certainly not a staged shot


              The fact that you are posting does not "honor" the Azerbaijanis, there are no statements about prisoners (I have not seen), it means a war without rules and prisoners are destroyed.
              1. -7
                3 October 2020 22: 00
                Now there is no time for statements. Magadiz was freed and a few more villages.
                Azerbaijan is committed to the Geneva Convention and Red Cross employees will be allowed to see all the prisoners.
                1. SSR
                  +5
                  3 October 2020 22: 03
                  Quote: uran
                  Now there is no time for statements. Magadiz was freed and a few more villages.
                  Azerbaijan is committed to the Geneva Convention and Red Cross employees will be allowed to see all the prisoners.

                  That is, they scored on propaganda and do not want to extract advantages from the obvious?
                  Comrade, thank you.
                  1. -6
                    3 October 2020 22: 17
                    Why was it scored maybe tomorrow or the other day there will be a report or interview with prisoners of war. Everything has its time.
                    1. SSR
                      +6
                      3 October 2020 22: 21
                      Quote: uran
                      Why was it scored maybe tomorrow or the other day there will be a report or interview with prisoners of war. Everything has its time.

                      Are you a schoolboy?
                      1. -5
                        3 October 2020 22: 25
                        Thank you for the compliment but you flatter me)
                      2. SSR
                        +9
                        3 October 2020 22: 29
                        Quote: uran
                        Thank you for the compliment but you flatter me)

                        This is not flattery, any conflict, captive is immediately an argument.
                        Ukraine, Syria, Georgia, but not Karabakh.
                        This is a massacre, unfortunately I know what it is.
                      3. -7
                        3 October 2020 22: 44
                        Let's not confuse the regular army of Azerbaijan with the Armenian gangs. You see how the MoE of Azerbaijan is working all the facts before your eyes, in contrast to the enemy who talks about the mythical destroyed planes and spread many other fakes.
                2. +2
                  4 October 2020 01: 51
                  This is, in fact, the path traversed to Magadiz in 7 days of intense fighting.
                  1. -2
                    4 October 2020 07: 46
                    You know very well that the Armenians have been digging there for 30 years and there is the "impassable line of Ohanyan" if they broke through the defense, then soon everything will fall down. ...
                    1. +3
                      4 October 2020 13: 28
                      Do you have poor eyesight? What defenses have you broken through? In 7 days, they laid down so many people, walked only 4 km. The Azerbaijani Armed Forces spent so much effort to step on the first! line. How many more askers are planned to be killed in order to cross the first line? How many more askers will it take to reach the second? How many more Turks are planning to kill Talysh, Lezghin and Avar guys for the sake of the interests of Kurd Aliyev and Laz Erdogan?
                      1. -2
                        4 October 2020 14: 01
                        Azerbaijanis gave 300 lives during the Second World War. Now we are ready to give 000 million lives. As for the Talysh Lezgins and other national minorities, do not worry with one of them, you are in polemics.
          3. +1
            3 October 2020 17: 45
            I would like to know the place where it was filmed. If It was filmed against Azerbaijan, it turns out that our sun is at its zenith but in the north, the guard's shadow is too short. what
            1. +6
              3 October 2020 18: 18
              Quote: tralflot1832
              I wish I knew the place where it was filmed

              WHERE it was filmed is an open question, but WHOM it was filmed and FOR WHAT PURPOSE is not a question at all.

              By the Department of Special Propaganda of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan (or whatever it is called), do not go to your grandmother Yes

              But it was done clumsily, roughly, without imagination ... With cinema in Azerbaijan, apparently not very ...
              1. +3
                3 October 2020 18: 46
                This is how I didn’t play this shooting today, from the NKR side: nothing will work out, but if from Azerbaijan, then everything falls into place right away. hi
            2. 0
              4 October 2020 01: 30
              Tie the line of contact to the cardinal points and the solitaire will fold. The photo was taken with a high probability at 15-17.00 on the right flank.
              1. -1
                4 October 2020 07: 01
                Whose right flank is Armenian or Azeri. Left Azeri is ideal. Time 13 00 14 00. I'm from Sochi. A few minutes after 18 00 the sun sets with us. Well, as an option, the Armenian checkpoint was deployed towards Armenia. Right Armenian with In the morning, you could see if the guard's shadow would be long, this is possible in the morning, after 10 o'clock, not like an Armenian checkpoint. Not only one toiled with this foolishness, but with friends. And on flat terrain and with Yandex maps bindings. hi
                1. +3
                  4 October 2020 09: 37
                  Right Armenian. The fighter stands with his back to the south-southeast. There is no shadow since he is a vampire. And there is a shadow from the "gabion" of the tires.
      4. -4
        3 October 2020 16: 59
        Quote: newbie
        Armenians have a higher spirit

        In a modern war on one spirit, victory cannot be won by word at all.
        Quote: newbie
        but deliveries from the Russian Federation do not stop here.

        If even the most advanced weapon is given to an illiterate inept, in his hands it will remain a hoe, not a weapon. It is enough to look at how the Armenians feel about their art, which is not masked and is put in an open field, filming videos on the phone.
        Quote: newbie
        If the Kremlin listens to you, it will hand over the Caucasus to the Yankees, through the Turks, of course.

        Firstly, mattresses are not up to the Armenians with the residents of Azerbaijan now. Secondly, the Kremlin is forcing Yerevan to sign a surrender, but on condition that our peacekeepers are stationed in Karabakh, so that the Azeybardjans do not start slaughtering everyone there indiscriminately.
        Thirdly, why Moscow Pashinyan? Have you ever asked yourself such a question?
        As for the Turks ... there are two main players here, the Russian Federation and Turkey. Nothing depends on the word at all from Baku and Yerevan. And Pashinyan has no one to turn to, except the Kremlin, where he has already called twice.
        You understand that a country that cannot influence geopolitics is doomed to be led by stronger countries, and if such a led country tries to fight a state that determines geopolitics not only in the region, but also in the world, it will lose a priori.
        1. +7
          3 October 2020 17: 37
          Yes, calm down already, you are a good connoisseur of psychology and tactics and strategists. You can safely put yourself a plus and run to the cashier to get your 30 pieces of silver))
          1. -11
            3 October 2020 17: 39
            Quote: Spartanec
            Yes, calm down already, you are a good connoisseur of psychology and tactics and strategists. You can safely put yourself a plus and run to the cashier to get your 30 pieces of silver))

            Dear gorlopan, you are sitting here trying to get a plus for your op, but your vyser is not interesting to me at all.
            Quote: Spartanec
            run to the cashier to get your 30 pieces of silver))

            Che have experience? wassat
            1. 0
              4 October 2020 15: 06
              First, I'm not used to bawling. But all your komenty is just bawling and arrogance with a complete lack of intelligence. Well, or as a last resort with his rudiments, like a schoolboy
        2. +2
          3 October 2020 18: 40
          Quote: NEXUS
          It is enough to see how the Armenians relate to their art, which is not masked and is put in an open field, filming videos on the phone.

          With Azerbaijan's almost complete domination of the air, here mask, do not mask, you will still get what will come from the drone.
        3. +2
          3 October 2020 21: 15
          Nexus, don't lump it all together. Verbosity will not add any sense. Not to see Baku Karabakh, only after the death of the last RA warrior. What are you writing about? The beginning of the slaughter on the conscience of the sultan on the signal of the west, azerbaijan_ consumable. You are poking around talking about geopolitics, but in fact, apart from the heel on Karabakh, you are not able to see wider.
          1. +4
            4 October 2020 01: 35
            Quote: newbie
            The beginning of the slaughter on the conscience of the sultan on the signal of the west, azerbaijan_ consumable.

            Without diminishing in the least the provocative role of Erdogan in this war, I would nevertheless note that most of the responsibility is on Pashinyan's conscience. It is thanks to him, his supporters and those Armenians who support him and are jumping on the squares against Russia that turned the Russians away from Armenia. After that, we Russians are deeply offended by you. They considered them their allies, their friends, and you, excuse me, turned to us. Please note that even here, in VO, there is no full support for Armenia in this war. But before, before Pashinyan's arrival, she was almost unconditional. I think at a high level they think the same. So, thanks to your multi-vector nature and cunning, you can shit about your country about ___. No one wants to help you anymore. Traitors do not like anywhere. You can go and tell Pashinyan with his clique for this many thanks
        4. +1
          3 October 2020 21: 56
          No level of spirit will save you from artillery shells and kamikaze drones.
      5. -12
        3 October 2020 17: 00
        The Kremlin has already surrendered the Caucasus. Armenia walks under the Yankees, Azerbaijan is supported by Turkey. After the invasion of Azerbaijanis, when the US took a passive position, the situation began to change. And how good it all is is not clear. Because it was the Armenians who seized the now controversial piece of territory from Azerbaijan in the early 90s, and the current military support is controversial from an international point of view. At home, Russia has even introduced amendments to the law to make it difficult to do such a trick with it.
        1. +1
          3 October 2020 17: 11
          Quote: spectr
          The Kremlin has already surrendered the Caucasus.

          He did not pass, but tries to return.
          Quote: spectr
          Armenia walks under the Yankees,

          The Yankees sent Pashinyan through the forest, because mattresses will not fight with a NATO member, that is, Turkey.
          Quote: spectr
          And how good it all is is not clear.

          The Kremlin is now pickling Pashinyan in order to remove him. How? He will sign a surrender and give Karabakh to Baku, subject to the deployment of our peacekeepers there. And the Armenians will never forgive Pashinyan's surrender.
      6. +10
        3 October 2020 17: 14
        Will stand. Armenians have a higher spirit. The Azeris have a better equipped army, but supplies from the Russian Federation do not stop here. If the Kremlin listens to you, it will hand over the Caucasus to the Yankees, through the Turks, of course.

        Russia will not allow Azerbaijan to take Karabakh. Because, in this case, Russia will lose Armenia, and Azerbaijan will finally go into Turkey's orbit. As a result, Russia will lose the entire Caucasus - the region is vital for it. The Kremlin is now silent, because it conducts educational work with Pashinyan, and at the same time provides logistics / intelligence, weapons, etc. / support to the Armenians. Armenians are fighting for their lives, they have nowhere to retreat, so they will fight to the death. Azerbaijanis are weak warriors. In the main directions, the Turkoman mercenaries are bending, and they themselves keep at a distance. With all that, having complete technical superiority, they have not advanced very deeply. UAVs are a big problem. The downed drone turns into fragments, but the equipment hit by them on the ground turns into fragments with ... corpses. UAVs are riveted, but dead soldiers cannot be returned. Apparently the Armenians underestimated the threat from the air, and the UAV is a very difficult target.
        By the way, the Turkish-Azerbaijani lobby, here at VO has become more active, which was to be expected. Azerbaijan is clearly better prepared for the information war than Armenia.
        1. -4
          3 October 2020 17: 20
          Quote: pytar
          Russia will not allow Azerbaijan to take Karabakh.

          Of course it won't, but ... on its own terms, namely the deployment of a peacekeeping contingent on the territory of Karabakh. I think with the subsequent construction of a full-fledged base.
          And here Yerevan has two ways ... either to lose in pure Baku and squander Karabakh, which will never be forgiven Pashinyan, or to agree to the terms of the Kremlin, thereby formally defending Karabakh within the framework of its state.
          The third is not given to Yerevan.
          1. +9
            3 October 2020 17: 26
            Sure. The existence of the Karabakh conflict is the "short leash" on which the Kremlin keeps both Yerevan and Baku at some level. Therefore, Moscow is not interested in an unambiguous victory for either side and will not allow this.
          2. +1
            3 October 2020 21: 51
            Karabakh is not within the framework of Armenia.
        2. +2
          3 October 2020 17: 23
          Quote: pytar
          Because, in this case, Russia will lose Armenia, and Azerbaijan will finally go into Turkey's orbit.

          It is a pity that not all of my fellow citizens understand this. If Armenia sees that it was thrown, it will look for other allies. France and the United States will gladly place their bases there, and naturally in Georgia. Further there will be movement to Central Asia and the Turks and the USA and China. Russia will simply not be left behind.
          1. 0
            3 October 2020 17: 32
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            If Armenia sees that it was thrown, it will look for other allies. France and the United States will gladly place their bases there, and naturally in Georgia.

            Forgive me, but how do you see France or the United States on the side of Armenia, if NATO member Turkey is in the anti-submarine camp?
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Russia will simply not be left behind.

            If you are an Armenian and a really smart person, then I think you understand that Armenia will be stupid without the Russian Federation. All these noodles from Pashinyan and about "we are with Europe and the United States" are designed for narrow-minded baboons like those who rode on the Maidan in Kiev. And then it dawned on these macaques that everything had become shitty, since there was no money in their pockets. And who got rich? That's right, only Parasha and those who put him on the throne, with the help of the United States. And the people became impoverished.
            1. +6
              3 October 2020 17: 44
              Quote: NEXUS
              Forgive me, but how do you see France or the United States on the side of Armenia, if NATO member Turkey is in the anti-submarine camp?


              Just like a NATO member, Turkey fought with NATO member Greece in Cyprus. NATO membership concerns external threats when a third party attacks the territory of one of the participants. Technically, Nagorno-Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan, NATO protocols do not work at all in this case.
              Quote: NEXUS
              that Armenia will be stupid without the Russian Federation.

              Armenia will bend without "Big Brother", who is not particularly important, who is stronger and will fall under. The United States, Russia or China does not matter, the main thing is that they would be against Turkey.
              1. -5
                3 October 2020 17: 51
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                Just like a NATO member, Turkey fought with NATO member Greece in Cyprus.

                On August 14, 1974, against the background of the aggravation of the Cyprus crisis, Greek Prime Minister Konstantinos Karamanlis announced the withdrawal of Greece from the NATO military organization, explaining this step by the inability of the bloc to prevent the outbreak of an armed conflict between Greece and Turkey.

                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                the main thing that would be against Turkey.

                And this is where the Kremlin's card is played in order to return Armenia to the field of its interests.
            2. +5
              3 October 2020 20: 56
              I don’t know why you speak with such aplomb about the mediocrity of the Armenian commanders, but I know that such categorical judgments are not typical for smart people.
              And if you
              really smart person

              then answer what will happen to Armenia if it loses Artsakh?
              What will stop the Erdogan / Aliyev tandem from completely ousting Armenians from the territory of the Armenian Highlands?
              How do you see the development of the situation if the Azerbaijanis win over the Armenians?
          2. +10
            3 October 2020 17: 45
            It is a pity that not all of my fellow citizens understand this. If Armenia sees that it was thrown, it will look for other allies. France and the United States will gladly place their bases there, and naturally in Georgia. Further there will be movement to Central Asia and the Turks and the USA and China. Russia will simply not be left behind.

            You are absolutely right! Yes For many Russians, the look at this crisis is purely domestic and is exhausted from the vegetable market and taxi drivers, where representatives of both diastors occupy a weighty place. On a global scale, these citizens are incapable.
            But here we must also bear in mind the factor - information war! Many Russian Internet resources have long been occupied by pro-Turkish propagandists posing as "ordinary Russian forum users." By the way, they can be really Ross. citizens receiving remuneration for their activities. They are here to see prices on VO, though for a long time! If you look at their comments in the past, you will see that, in principle, they always speak out against all other peoples, littering the Russians with everyone. Such a tactic, these pro-Turkish couch fighters! The Armenians also have their own information lobby, but it is clearly weaker and almost inaudible.
            But the Kremlin perfectly understands the whole essence of the situation and works according to its own strategy. It is not so obvious, and sometimes it looks illogical! For example, large-scale deliveries of weapons to Azerbaijan, even though Moscow knows perfectly well against whom it will be used! In fact, the Kremlin makes money and poses a threat to the obstinate Armenia, but this makes sense, since this way Armenia becomes more attached to Russia due to the threat of defeat. Armenia, led by even the most pro-Western politician, will not be able to leave the orbit of Russia! For the same reason, Moscow will not give an edge to either side. She does not need Erdogan and NATO in the Caucasus, she will not allow this! hi
            1. +1
              3 October 2020 18: 04
              Quote: pytar
              Moscow will not give an edge on either side. She does not need Erdogan and NATO in the Caucasus, she will not allow this!

              In fact, it is a very difficult game, you should not forget about Iran, Erdogan and the United States are a direct threat to them, if everything becomes critically bad, they will send troops to help Armenia, but Russia does not need that either.
              If Russia intervenes directly in the war, then we will be put on the ball. Karabakh, Syria, Libya, LDNR, Ossetia on 3 fronts, we will not be enough to fight. Losing even at one of these points will be extremely painful.
              East is a delicate matter. In Armenia, China is just not enough, but their interests are there
              1. +6
                3 October 2020 18: 16
                I think Iran is helping Armenia quietly even now. And Russia accordingly prepared in advance, no one knows what really is at the base in Gyumri. Russia has a lot of experience in countering Turkish aggression! In Syria / Idlib / the Turks carried out the same, let's call it UAV tactics! RVKS studied it and could not fail to take the appropriate mayors in the Caucasus direction. The fact that we do not see Russia's direct participation in Karabakh does not mean at all that "they are not there"! I am 120% sure that Russia is in control of the situation! bully The Russians put enormous efforts to keep Syria, and the Caucasus at their side! They will not give it to the Turks under any circumstances! In vain Erdogan straightened his girdle like that, in vain ... No. In fact, this is a decent Russian-Turkish war!
                1. +1
                  3 October 2020 18: 28
                  The fact that both Iran and Russia are helping is a fact, but it may not be enough, if the front collapses, then you will need to directly help.
                  Quote: pytar
                  In Syria / Idlib / the Turks carried out the same, let's call it UAV tactics!

                  The fact of the matter is that it is extremely successful. In Syria, Assad's "troops" were ground down, they were already ready to scurry to Latakia, PMCs and the Russian military suffered significant losses. Only direct Russian intervention and trade deals helped.
                  In Libya, the intervention of the United States, France, Russia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia stopped Erdogan, from a military point of view, he could reach Benghazi and take him.
                  1. +3
                    3 October 2020 18: 48
                    The fact that both Iran and Russia are helping is a fact, but it may not be enough, if the front collapses, then you will need to directly help.

                    Dear, Russia cannot afford to lose the Caucasus! If the front collapses, departments inf. war of the Russian Federation, will be shown around the world "cadres of Armenian refugees, scenes with the massacre of civilians" and ... Russia will directly intervene to prevent genocide of civilians. Peacemaker type! Moreover, the West will not mind! Everyone is terribly tired of Erdogan! Big daddy, in Washington, in Brussels, in Moscow and Beijing, the neo-Ottoman Empire is not in the plans. The current statute in Karabakh suits them perfectly!
                    1. 0
                      3 October 2020 18: 55
                      Quote: pytar
                      Russia cannot afford to lose the Caucasus!

                      You proceed from the fact that the current government proceeds from the interests of Russia, I'm not sure about that. Putin is terminally ill and tired. Everyone else has selfish interests. At the same time, they drove Russia into a situation of war on several fronts, not in one of which it is impossible to lose.
                      If the front collapses, Russia will intervene without a doubt, I completely agree with your arguments, but in a big game it will bring you to lose.
                      1. +5
                        3 October 2020 19: 07
                        From a military-strategic point of view, the Caucasus is vital for Russia! It doesn't matter what state the current government is in! And Russia will not leave there! It seems to me that only Aliyev and Erdogan have some kind of illusion, which will soon disperse ... Yes, you are right that Russia is fighting on several fronts, but Erdogan is also not sweet! And yet, he managed to quarrel with everyone, everyone will be happy if he fails! Yes, the United States tried to overthrow him, did you forget? Here the global players are somewhat on the side of Russia. Nobody is interested in the final victory of Azerbaijan! It is in the interests of the big people that Bakun continues to spend his honestly earned money on oil and gas on weapons! True, there is a version that the West is interested in knocking Russia out of the Caucasus, as if Armenia suffers defeat and loses Karabakh, then it will go to the Western bloc. Thus, Turkey will gain access to the Caucasus and Central Asia, and NATO will settle in Georgia and Armenia. In any case, I consider this version to be one of the branches of possible scenarios, but we must understand that it all depends on the development of the situation! The West may and wants to step into Kazkaz, but it is not at all interested in Erdogan being there too! Nobody wants to see Erdogan anywhere! He dangles at their feet, bleating the Ottoman Empire, but no one will let him carry it out! The world is too small for new global players. For example, this is the only reason why the US is so opposed to Iran!
                      2. 0
                        3 October 2020 19: 42
                        Quote: pytar
                        True, there is a version that the West is interested in knocking Russia out of the Caucasus, as if if Armenia is defeated and loses Karabakh, it will go to the Western bloc. Thus, Turkey will gain access to the Caucasus and Central Asia, and NATO will settle in Georgia and Armenia.

                        I also adhere to this theory. It was infa that a few days before the Azerbaijani offensive in Turkey, NATO analysts arrived
                        Quote: pytar
                        yet, he managed to quarrel with everyone, everyone will be happy if he fails!

                        All this is France and Russia. The United States is 50-50, it is not a monolith, there are many trends, Erdogan is not beneficial for some to others, these are features of democratic regimes, there is no one decision-maker. England supports Erdogan, Qatar is their pocket gas company, Germany as a whole supports Erdogan, well, or does not interfere, Italy has positive neutrality. As they say, everything is not clear. The important point here is the US presidential elections, if Erdogan goes to make up after them, he will be written off all the tricks. The USA needs an ally against Russia, Iran, China. In Central Asia, Turkey has a high potential, fraternal peoples, a common faith, a window to Europe. And there, China strengthens its position, creates a transport corridor bypassing Russia and sea routes, is engaged in the extraction of useful resources, etc.
                      3. +1
                        3 October 2020 19: 54
                        Yes, many interesting ones are tied here. An extremely controversial story. Let's see what happens next. hi
                      4. 0
                        3 October 2020 20: 01
                        Yes, there will be no peace. I am sincerely sorry for the peoples of Transcaucasia.
                        I expect a big deal between the United States and Turkey after the presidential elections. C400 will either be sold to a third party or for storage, Turkey's return to the F3 program, the launch of several joint military projects, financial transactions and foreign policy alliances. Here Erdogan needs to get more trump cards, for more baksheesh.
                      5. 0
                        3 October 2020 19: 37
                        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                        Putin is terminally ill and tired

                        About tired I can not say anything, but sick with something?
                2. 0
                  3 October 2020 18: 34
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                  If Russia intervenes directly in the war, then we will be put on the ball.

                  Erdogan:
                  There are still terrorist-controlled zones in Syria. And these areas must be cleared. Turkish troops are ready for this.

                  Good video on this topic. I agree with Strelkov's operational assessment, he is a good operative. Otherwise, no.
              2. 0
                3 October 2020 21: 13
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                do not forget about Iran, Erdogan and the United States are a direct threat to them, if everything becomes critically bad, they will send troops to help Armenia
                On the basis of what the Islamic Republic of Iran will send troops to Christian Armenia? As bad as it gets, this will not happen because it will mean the end of Iran's relations with Russia.
          3. -1
            3 October 2020 17: 53
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            If Armenia sees that it was thrown, it will look for other allies. France and the United States will gladly place their bases there, and naturally in Georgia. Further there will be movement to Central Asia and the Turks and the USA and China. Russia will simply not be left behind.

            as it finds, it will end itself
          4. +1
            4 October 2020 01: 45
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            If Armenia sees that it was thrown, it will look for other allies.

            Just before drawing conclusions that Russia left Armenia, it should be pointed out that first Armenia left Russia. And what else should be expected after this?
            And the second question - seeing how Armenia wags backwards to the right and left, betraying its allies, the same France or the United States will think three times - do they need such allies?
        3. -2
          3 October 2020 18: 17
          Quote: pytar
          Apparently the Armenians underestimated the threat from the air, and the UAV is a very difficult target.

          for "Torah" / "Tunguska" no - they do not care about the UAV / turntable / attack aircraft / CD - it all depends on the personnel of the battalions / batteries (and not like the Arabs - they pray / missed the attack of Israel / USA / France / Italy ), operators of detection and guidance systems, from their training and desire to fight ...
          1. +2
            3 October 2020 22: 03
            Unmanned aerial vehicles for Tunguska and Thor are quite complex targets now, even new specialized missiles have begun to be created for these complexes, including for Pantsir - and Azerbaijan also has more than 100 Spike ATGMs of the latest modification in range
            1. +1
              3 October 2020 22: 10
              Quote: Vadim237
              specialized missiles began to be created for these complexes, including for the Pantsir

              If I'm not mistaken, then for Pantsir they just created an extremely small and cheap rocket, so as not to waste more expensive ones.
            2. 0
              4 October 2020 01: 03
              Are you an airborne officer? If so, which one? vPO or air defense of the country (VKS)?
              Quote: Vadim237
              Drones for Tunguska and Thor are quite complex targets

              nifiga, there is a war - the price of a rocket / the price of a drone (the feasibility of using a rocket) is cheaper than 2A38 to work (for tunguska / shell), but for spending missiles on a target such as a quadrocopter they can also "get off" (for all air defense systems / air defense systems) ... I repeat once again - it all depends on the battalion commander and the commander of the air defense missile system / air defense system (well, on the training of the air defense missile system / air defense system crew in using these complexes) and the state of "metal in manhood" when disassembling with commanding for the waste of ammunition according to "incomprehensible goals "...
        4. SSR
          +1
          3 October 2020 21: 12
          Quote: pytar
          Russia will not allow Azerbaijan to take Karabakh. Because, in this case, Russia will lose Armenia, and Azerbaijan will finally go into Turkey's orbit.

          How zadolbali these mantras, Russia, Putin, the Hand of the Kremlin ... if Russia "hammers a bolt" on the former, then these next "all-non-merliks" will be torn by others, Turks, Persians, Jews, everyone who tries to dictate and impose in their region, the Russian Federation if in a simple way, on the graters of the Turks and Persians, we are army. With Bibi, VVP and fish and bones, caviar will agree.
          In a real batch, regional disassemblers will be carried out at a time, two.
          Erdogan is pushing, puffing, catching what can be caught, looking for the edge of the banks, but he is bent over and gutted by the dguzi who tried to do it earlier. He is not complete and he has a memory of how the "partners" did not let the board and who it was.
          Comments, these are the comments of ordinary members of the forum, but absolutely know-it-alls really poke up.))) Like me.))
        5. +1
          3 October 2020 21: 59
          "Russia will not allow Azerbaijan to take Karabakh." Honestly, Russia does not care whose Karabakh. We will not interfere in the showdown between the two countries. Putin said this directly.
      7. -1
        3 October 2020 17: 19
        Quote: newbie
        If the Kremlin listens to you, it will hand over the Caucasus to the Yankees, through the Turks, of course

        Oh! already scary!
        Don't be scary.
        Are you writing from the trench?
      8. -10
        3 October 2020 17: 46
        On the website of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, in the section "Purchases", a tender for a total of 20 million rubles was discovered with an order for pictures demoralizing Azerbaijanis. The winner of the open competition was the Russian forum Dvach, where the execution of the order began in the section / politics /.
        According to Azerbaijani intelligence, several hundred Russian graphic designers were involved in creating provocative images, which were later used by Armenian Internet trolls on Twitter and in the comments of VKontakte. “Ponadbakin Shvaynoturk” and “Karabakh Azeri Baran” are only the pinnacle of what we are found on the internet. Russian collaborators cooperate with the invader for money, this will leave a deep wound on our relations with Russia, ”said Azerbaijani Ambassador to Russia Polad Bulbul-oglu.
        1. -1
          3 October 2020 18: 43
          Polad Bulbul-oglu was such a Soviet singer, however
          1. +3
            3 October 2020 21: 56
            This he is
        2. +2
          3 October 2020 19: 24
          I opened it, so there and ... they distribute it badly, found some kind of garbage resource ... check at least the information you write about ... -
      9. +4
        3 October 2020 18: 27
        The Karabakh sabotage group went into the rear and blew up an Azerbaijani cannon, from which they hit Stepanakert⚡️Sources of @wargonzo in the Karabakh special services confirm this information. According to our information, an Israeli-made LORA cannon was destroyed.
        1. +1
          4 October 2020 02: 04
          Quote: finish
          The Karabakh sabotage group went into the rear and blew up an Azerbaijani cannon, from which they hit Stepanakert⚡️Sources of @wargonzo in the Karabakh special services confirm this information. According to our information, an Israeli-made LORA cannon was destroyed.

          Well, what remains to be done when there are no drums of your own? At least so to oppose. At the risk of life.
      10. +2
        3 October 2020 22: 32
        I think there are no supplies yet, but if they decide, not so much is needed to change the alignment, there are 7 silt flights, 5 tori, a couple of systems of reb and 200 willows, and all the karachuns will come to Azerbaijan's drones, they don't have so many
      11. +5
        3 October 2020 22: 36


        That also happens
    2. +6
      3 October 2020 16: 36
      Quote: NEXUS
      The Armenians will not survive this war.

      Wait and see. It is clear that all information is filtered, but one can more or less confidently say that there will be no blitzkrieg, and that in a trench warfare everything can change.
    3. +3
      3 October 2020 16: 36
      Quote: NEXUS
      And the Kremlin is right and does what it stands aside.

      The Armenians shouted too loudly that the fellows themselves. We are all interested in seeing what they are worth. So far, not very good
      1. -6
        3 October 2020 18: 50
        I just received news that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces took the city of Agdere (Mardakert)
    4. -3
      3 October 2020 16: 40
      The shot looks like retreating Azerbaijani infantry! We stopped and fought terrorism at the distant approaches in Syria, but we don't notice at close range! It turns out the whole idea with Syria was an image gamble for rating and window dressing.
      1. +3
        3 October 2020 17: 03
        And what is the point of Russia getting involved in the conflict on the side of Armenia, if they did not officially recognize Karabakh? It turns out that there is a civil war in Azerbaijan, therefore our business is a side. hi
      2. -5
        3 October 2020 18: 52
        Yours lost the city of Agdere, contour-stepers)
        1. SSR
          +2
          3 October 2020 21: 18
          Quote: Oquzyurd
          Yours lost the city of Agdere, contour-stepers)

          I repeat, I am neutral to all sides, but if I don’t confuse it, then it has already happened, the Azerbaijanis, attacking, recaptured and then lost even more.
          It’s just sad to me how former residents of the same house kill each other and how 404 yelling America will help us.
          Pawns think of themselves as queens and people are dying, our former Soviet, not European and American, but ours.
    5. 0
      3 October 2020 17: 32
      We don't need a war on the country's southern border. The bloodshed must be stopped before it's too late.
    6. 0
      3 October 2020 18: 06
      Well ... what to do, they will return the territories.
    7. nnm
      +1
      3 October 2020 21: 01
      Already survived. The Blitzkrieg actually failed. The positional stage has begun.
    8. -3
      3 October 2020 22: 25
      They have such a successful offensive that they lost territory in both directions))
      Just finish)
      Of course they won't.
    9. 0
      3 October 2020 23: 07
      Quote: NEXUS
      The Armenians will not survive this war.

      =======
      And here is Andrey - "we'll see" !!! Az-s have more population (and therefore mob.resuns), and money - more will be ..... But! More organized by and more motivated!
      ---------
      So that "we'll see "!!!
      PS. Personally, I - neither for "ar-s" and not for "az-s"! The main thing is that PEOPLE do not suffer! It will be necessary - and we will accept Armenian and Azerbaijani families! It doesn't matter - WHO! We are all from the USSR!
    10. -1
      5 October 2020 11: 43
      If the Armenians want, they will stand.
      But this will be Stalingrad, not a standing on the Elbe.
  2. +2
    3 October 2020 16: 33
    Azerbaijan will fight as long as drones are available - this follows from the logic of events.
    If it comes out to cut off Karabakh from Armenia and knock out the equipment of the Armenians in Karabakh, more intense ground battles will take place.
    1. +2
      3 October 2020 18: 50
      Quote: Avior
      Azerbaijan will fight while drones are available

      And it depends on the Turks. Thrown in instead of the lost, it means they will not end soon. But the Turks need Bayraktars in Libya, Syria, and their own Kurdistan, and they produce them, with all the desire, not like baked pies. So it depends on Erdogan's priorities.
      1. +1
        3 October 2020 18: 58
        As far as I understand, there is a joint production of UAVs in Azerbaijan with Israel.
        1. +1
          3 October 2020 19: 15
          Firstly, production, even jointly with Israel, has volume restrictions, even in 3 shifts without days off. Secondly, at least in the press, the Azerbaijanis place their main emphasis on Bayraktar (maybe it is inconvenient to advertise relations with Israel?). And only Erdogan has a stock of ready-made Bayraktars.
          1. +3
            3 October 2020 19: 57
            In the video I saw that they were using not only shock weapons - the ammunition flew in from the side.
            With those dimensions, the combat areas can fight without shock.
            The Polonaise has a range of up to 300 km, add target designation to it from the UAV and no shock is needed for those conditions on stationary targets for sure.
            1. +1
              4 October 2020 02: 16
              Quote: Avior
              In the video I saw that they were using not only shock weapons - the ammunition flew in from the side.

              I also paid attention to this. Reconnaissance from the UAV, then target designation and artillery strike. Such a bundle was used in Idlib and was very successful. Nobody drew conclusions to counteract.
      2. 0
        4 October 2020 02: 13
        Quote: Nagan
        So it depends on Erdogan's priorities.

        I thought from the possibilities of supplying Bucks with Shells to Armenia
  3. +12
    3 October 2020 16: 36
    It is only obvious that the sixth day of the Azeri blitzkrieg was drowned out and unable to achieve anything significant. Bearing in mind that the Armenians simply have nowhere to retreat and they are defending their homes, it is possible to predict a trench war in the mountains of Karabakh and a bloodbath on both sides.

    Yes, if it were not for the successes of drones, this would have gone to the Azeri defeat. If your blitzkrieg comprehended zero for six days and you took two cowsheds and 10 sq. kilometers, then this is not a blitzkrieg but a failure.
    1. +3
      3 October 2020 16: 45
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      It is only obvious that the sixth day of the Azeri blitzkrieg was drowned out and unable to achieve anything significant. Bearing in mind that the Armenians simply have nowhere to retreat and they are defending their homes, it is possible to predict a trench war in the mountains of Karabakh and a bloodbath on both sides.

      Yes, if it were not for the successes of drones, this would have gone to the Azeri defeat. If your blitzkrieg comprehended zero for six days and you took two cowsheds and 10 sq. kilometers, then this is not a blitzkrieg but a failure.

      Yes, they would have to cope with the drones, and everything would be easier. hi
    2. +5
      3 October 2020 17: 44
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      It is only obvious that the sixth day of the Azeri blitzkrieg was drowned out and unable to achieve anything significant. Bearing in mind that the Armenians simply have nowhere to retreat and they are defending their homes, it is possible to predict a trench war in the mountains of Karabakh and a bloodbath on both sides.

      Yes, if it were not for the successes of drones, this would have gone to the Azeri defeat. If your blitzkrieg comprehended zero for six days and you took two cowsheds and 10 sq. kilometers, then this is not a blitzkrieg but a failure.

      Yes, this is not a blitzkrieg. Provocation - retreat - blow. Azerbaijanis do not climb into echeloned defense. They use their main advantage - numerical, technological and financial superiority, exhausting and gradually reducing the Armenian Armed Forces.
    3. 0
      3 October 2020 18: 02
      3 days ago, the size of the liberated territories was equal to 500-550 square kilometers, mainly the territory of echeloned recaptured positions from the Armenians, in the south there are 7 villages in the Fizuli and Jebrail districts, in the north the Murov Dag mountain range. This figure was increased in the Aghdera district (Mardakert) in the direction of Madagiz and Talish village.
      There is a planned action, without blitzkrieg and haste. Everything is according to plan.
      1. +3
        3 October 2020 18: 13
        3 days ago, the size of the liberated territories was equal to 500-550 sq. Km.


        Well, of course, and I captured the Sea of ​​Tranquility on the Moon.

        7 villages in Fizuli and Jabrayil districts,


        If at least one were captured, then your propaganda would have staged a parade like on May 9th. There they would march across the liberated land, with orchestras and fanfare. And so you have nothing that would resemble even remotely a populated place ... laughing
      2. +3
        3 October 2020 18: 52
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        There is a planned action, without blitzkrieg and haste. Everything is according to plan.

        And the plan, oh, big!
      3. +1
        3 October 2020 21: 33
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        ... in the south, there are 7 villages ...

        Can you tell us about the number of inhabitants of these villages and their nationality?
        1. +1
          3 October 2020 21: 57
          Before the first war (1992-94) these settlements were purely Azerbaijani population and belong to the flat Karabakh, that is, outside the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. After the Armenian occupation in 1994, they remained with them, behind their forward positions. Therefore, they could not people will return (during the battles they were expelled) to their villages. Now, ours have liberated these villages, but there is one name, the occupiers "designers" for 26 years dismantled all the houses in these villages, to the last brick. The total population of these 7 villages to the war was 23700 people.
          1. +1
            3 October 2020 22: 27
            Those. ashes. This is the result of the war. Do you really believe that today you will resolve the centuries-old feud with war? Make it worse.
            1. 0
              3 October 2020 22: 36
              We want to return 750 thousand people to our land, build new houses for them (in 2016, 1 village was liberated, Jojuk Merchanli, a beautiful settlement was immediately built on the site of the ruins) Armenians were also asked a hundred times so that they would not be afraid, peaceful people will be fine, so how peacekeepers will most likely be responsible for their safety along with us. Raspry cannot be immediately cured, but people can get along if there is the slightest desire. And there are no other options, since in any case Armenia and Azerbaijan are neighbors. Sooner or later we will have to put up with ...
              1. +2
                3 October 2020 22: 51
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Sooner or later you will have to come to terms.

                And, while we shoot. Logics!
                1. -1
                  3 October 2020 22: 55
                  Pashik brought it, unambiguously, God sees that we, as a people, wanted peacefully, but over the past 2 years, Pashik has even brought in peaceful Azerbaijanis with his statements and actions. I'm not looking at yesterday or today, I am looking a little ahead.
                  1. +1
                    3 October 2020 23: 28
                    Quote: Oquzyurd
                    I am not looking at yesterday or today, I am looking a little ahead.

                    Cynically! And antastically. There are three times more Azerbaijanis than Armenians. Offensive battle with losses 1 to three. Until the last Azerbaijani and Armenian? Who will come to this ancient land later? Instead of Armenians and Azerbaijanis?
                    1. +2
                      4 October 2020 03: 16
                      Quote: There was a mammoth
                      Who will come to this ancient land later? Instead of Armenians and Azerbaijanis?
                      The same Turks. Although the Persians can also present to do. They will also cut each other until they get bored. But they can type. But if the Russians come, the whole world will yell "aggression !!!"
      4. 0
        4 October 2020 02: 18
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        in the south, there are 7 villages in the Fizul districts

        Are sheepfolds and cowsheds also counted?
  4. +5
    3 October 2020 16: 36
    This is just a shot where the ATGM pierces the forehead of the T-90 turret. Sheaf from the top hatch
    fire from ignited powder charges.
    And the uninjured mechanic continues to drive the tank forward,
    1. +6
      3 October 2020 16: 50
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Sheaf from the top hatch
      fire from ignited powder charges.
      And the uninjured mechanic continues to drive the tank forward,

      Seriously? wassat
    2. +10
      3 October 2020 16: 53
      Firstly, not in the forehead, but in the side, and secondly, there is no partition between the mechvod and the tower and no one has a chance when the powder charges ignite.
      1. +2
        3 October 2020 16: 58
        Perhaps you are right: not in the forehead, but in the side of the tower at an angle from the front.
        I do not claim that the mechanic will survive, but the video shows the tank on fire
        continues to move forward quickly.
    3. +1
      3 October 2020 17: 27
      I hope because of the quarantine, your plant for the production of UAVs "kamikaze" is closed?
      1. +3
        3 October 2020 18: 01
        All military factories continue to operate in quarantine.
        1. +1
          3 October 2020 18: 08
          We had the same parsley in quarantine.
  5. +4
    3 October 2020 16: 44
    It seems like Aliyev was assassinated in the West, like the last dictator in the Caucasus.
    1. +7
      3 October 2020 16: 48
      It seems like Aliyev was assassinated in the West, like the last dictator in the Caucasus.


      And if Moscow and Washington confirm Macron's accusations about Turkoman bashibozuk in Karabakh, then it will be an accomplice of terrorism, with all that it implies ...
      1. +6
        3 October 2020 17: 02
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        And if Moscow and Washington confirm Macron's accusations about Turkoman bashibozuk in Karabakh, then it will be an accomplice of terrorism, with all that it implies ...


        Actually, both Moscow and Washington without Macron have a complete picture of what is happening. He was simply given an "honorable opportunity", "as a European leader," to be the first to declare the infiltration of militants into Azerbaijan from Syria ...

        And yet, yes ... Aliyev, on this basis you can pinch it great ...
        1. +2
          3 October 2020 17: 07
          I don’t know what’s going on at the top, but so far everyone is keeping "trump cards" up their sleeve.
          1. +2
            3 October 2020 17: 31
            Quote: tralflot1832
            while everyone keeps "trump cards" up their sleeve

            It seems to me that the main trump cards are in the hands of the Kremlin, so that someone does not think otherwise ...
  6. 0
    3 October 2020 16: 55
    Reaping the benefits;
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that if the countries that promised to end terrorist-controlled zones in Syria do not keep their word, Ankara will act independently.
    "Countries that do not speak a word about terrorist organizations and their patrons, when it comes to Turkey, forget about all moral principles, rights and laws. However, this cannot force us to deviate from our path," Erdogan quoted the Anadolu news agency ".
    According to him, Ankara's actions thwarted plans to create a "terrorist corridor" along the southern border of Turkey, and the Turkish authorities will continue to make efforts to achieve complete security in this region.
  7. +5
    3 October 2020 17: 00
    Quote: NEXUS
    And the Kremlin is right and does what it stands aside.

    It is the peaceful people who need to be defended, which is what the armies of both Armenia and NKR are doing, and it is not a sin to join them, the experience of peacekeeping forces is there, under the auspices of the UN, or the CSTO, it does not matter.
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    If your blitzkrieg comprehended zero for six days and you took two cowsheds and 10 sq. kilometers, then this is not a blitzkrieg but a failure.

    A blitzkrieg is when a decisive victory is achieved before the enemy forces are mobilized and deployed. In small states, this takes several days. And it requires a blitzkrieg of significant advantage and readiness for big losses, Azerbaijan does not have the wrong one, so it is not clear why they initially thought that the operational plans provided for the blitzkrieg?
  8. 0
    3 October 2020 17: 03
    We will be ashamed if the French Legion is the first to help the Armenians of Karabakh.
    Macron hates Erdogan.
    Putin also hates Erdogan, but in his own way.
    1. -1
      3 October 2020 17: 08
      Quote: fn34440
      We will be ashamed

      Who do you need this?
      1. -3
        3 October 2020 17: 17
        "Who is this for you?"
        US is the Turetsky Choir. We will have to change the destructive drive, otherwise there will be problems with the Armenians.
    2. 0
      3 October 2020 17: 20
      First, the French legion needs to get to the NKR, do not tell me who will give the "corridor"?
      1. +7
        3 October 2020 18: 02
        First, the French legion needs to get to the NKR, do not tell me who will give the "corridor"?


        The French will never send a Legion to Armenia. But if they want, then Georgia will give them a corridor in 4 milliseconds and even have time to kiss them in the ass in this time ... laughing
    3. +1
      3 October 2020 19: 02
      Quote: fn34440
      if the first aid to the Armenians of Karabakh will be provided by the "French Legion".

      How do they get there? what Georgia negative will not want to quarrel with Azerbaijan, but through Iran negative the French will not go themselves. Through Turkey? fool
    4. -5
      3 October 2020 21: 04
      when French women fell under the Nazis, the heroes Azerbaijanis fought against the Nazis. The death of the hero Akhmediyar Dzhabrailov was on the conscience of the Armenian terrorists, when it was decided to send the hero to France for negotiations in Azerbaijan, it was not a happy accident, but everyone knew whose hands it was.
      https://youtu.be/4TGchPjlUIc
  9. -2
    3 October 2020 17: 12
    Quote: voyaka uh
    This is just a shot where the ATGM pierces the forehead of the T-90 turret. Sheaf from the top hatch
    fire from ignited powder charges.
    And the uninjured mechanic continues to drive the tank forward,

    Can you tell me what they struck? I expect Cornet
  10. +1
    3 October 2020 17: 18
    The Armenian side announced a successful counteroffensive against ONE from directions in the conflict zone

    That's all there is to know about this news. hi
  11. 0
    3 October 2020 17: 39
    But what about the exhortation of the world's luminaries. In terms of peace-peace, war is not necessary!
    Listen, Azerbaijanis and Armenians do not respect us at all! ..
    It even grows offensively however.
    I hope they will be sanctioned?! .. Or where? ..
    1. 0
      3 October 2020 18: 07
      It's difficult with Pashinyan's Armenia.
      Three weeks ago Belarus was zaidanil and Alexander Lukashenko rushed to the Kremlin. There he promised Vladimir Putin "to stay closer to Russia." It seems like nothing concrete, but it sounds beautiful, and most importantly it works! Minsk was immediately given a loan of $ 1,5 billion.

      The Armenian prime minister is no more stupid than the Belarusian president. As soon as the Azerbaijani army began an offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh, Nikol Pashinyan also rushed to Moscow. Where he announced the upcoming establishment of "relations of a new level and quality" with Russia. It sounds no worse than "staying closer" and, most importantly, also does not oblige to anything. That is, when there is no need for the help of the damned Muscovites, they can be sent away legally.

      Pashinyan never concealed his desire to send. Against Armenia's accession to the Eurasian Economic Union, he voted in parliament, then demanded to leave it ...
      Alas, just like 100 years ago, when the Turks defeated the Armenian army, the West is in no hurry to help. So while Muscovites are needed ...
      1. +2
        3 October 2020 18: 35
        To my deep regret (as they say: there are few real violent ones. So there are no leaders).
        All this "kitchen" of the Russian Federation should be taken under its personal control. And not to play games of political essays.
        By the way, this is exactly the case today.
        And then everything - what will the partners think, what will Grandma Merkel say? ...
        And suddenly, he does not approve ... What will we do ...
  12. -2
    3 October 2020 18: 10
    The army of the Azerbaijan SSR can knock out headquarters, commanders, warehouses ... and so on and on with its unrequited actions of UAVs and reconnaissance. By such actions they will turn the NKR army into non-systemic formations. And then, after 5 years, they will repeat the offensive.
  13. -4
    3 October 2020 18: 16
    People work while you express regrets and concerns. It is in a critical situation that you can see who is worth what.
  14. +1
    3 October 2020 18: 16
    Judging by the developing events, the conflict is far from over, and the parties clearly do not intend to sit down at the negotiating table under current conditions.


    All this is sad, but sooner or later it will have to, although the situation may be critical for someone.
  15. +5
    3 October 2020 18: 16
    A senseless massacre !!! To satisfy the ambitions of politicians. Grief comes to people's homes, and some commentators, like necrophiles, "savor" propaganda videos ... Aliyev cannot take Karabakh, the territory can be captured, but it is unlikely to be held - a guerrilla war will begin, which of Azerbaijanis will agree to live with their families in the place where they will be shoot, mine, set fire to ??? Is that the Syrian "refugees" - barmaley who are already accustomed to living in war, and not so that to grow and build something ... But this is from the point of politics. If we speak from a military position, then expecting that the Armenians will surrender is self-deception. The calculation shows that for 100 Armenian soldiers, Azerbaijan will need at least 000 for a more or less successful offensive ... the ratio should be 300 to 000, and taking into account the mountainous terrain, 1 to 3. Drones are already "fizzling out", and their high efficiency has not yet been confirmed by facts (so far only propaganda for intimidation). Mountains are a different kind of war, with their own specifics and with great losses among people, because in the mountains, neither armored vehicles, nor artillery, nor aviation, including unmanned aircraft, are able to operate effectively. Everything is decided by a direct clash between small military groups. This has already been proven by us and the Americans in Afghanistan. So the war is meaningless for both ordinary Azerbaijanis and ordinary Armenians !!! It is necessary to resolve the conflict peacefully. Somewhere the Armenians should give the territory to Azerbaijan, and Azerbaijan should recognize Karabakh as Armenia, which should guarantee against provocations and deaths of military and civilians in the border areas. And it is imperative to remove Turkey from the number of negotiators. But ... as both Azerbaijani and Armenian friends told me (he indicated the order in alphabetical order, not in sympathy): "A politician came and made our peoples enemies, but there is no new politician who could measure us." But first we need to stop shooting and killing each other for the fact that someone in Azerbaijan or Armenia would "sit" in power ... or in Turkey.
  16. -3
    3 October 2020 18: 26
    While the Armenians are engaged in chatting, ours promptly destroy them. Let them chat and praise themselves further
  17. 0
    3 October 2020 18: 47
    Quote: fn34440
    We will be ashamed if the French Legion is the first to help the Armenians of Karabakh.

    Have you looked at the map for a long time? The only possible weak link is Georgia. All the rest of the "French Legion" will not miss. And Georgia is also a big question. There will be an instruction from Washington - they will pass, there will be a ban - they will send Marcon by the forest. It remains for the French paratroopers to parachute only from space

    Quote: fn34440
    "Who is this for you?"
    US is the Turetsky Choir. We will have to change the destructive drive, otherwise there will be problems with the Armenians.

    And these are already the problems of the Armenians, not the Turkish choir
  18. -8
    3 October 2020 18: 52
    Shushan Stepanyan, by the way, wow, so little chick, it will go well with vodka and herring, in short, this beautiful young lady just forgot to clarify, that the Armenian troops, as a result of a counterattack of their rear and ahead of the train, took Magadiz, or, fucking, left, as is correct? laughing

    Sorry for the gags of the gateway level, but men, are you going to discuss military issues, on business, sorting out the nuances, since everything is recorded on video and photos or is Shushan Stepanyan's erotic fantasies?

    What counterattacks ?! The Armenians are skittish, the men dress their eyes ... although her face is nothing, if you believe one legend of the First Karabakh War, then some company of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces will be lucky ...
  19. -2
    3 October 2020 19: 17
    Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
    but it is unlikely to keep - a guerrilla war will begin

    And who will be the partisan?
    Whoever wants to die at home, the barmaley from Syria will help (at the same time they themselves will have a closer communication with the houris), and the rest will flee to Armenia. And 700 thousand displaced Azerbaijanis with "patriots" will return to Karabakh.
    1. +1
      3 October 2020 21: 46
      Imagine yourself in the place of these 700 thousand displaced. Will you agree to return to a place where everything will be destroyed by war? A house should be built (or do you think that the Armenians will leave everything there in its original form), plow and graze cattle in minefields, in an area with destroyed infrastructure. To bring everything back to normal for life, you need a lot of money, but where can ordinary people get it? And yet, a whole generation of Azerbaijanis, whose parents lived on the territory of the Soviet Nagorno-Karabakh, settled down in new places both in Azerbaijan and in Russia. There is also a large group of people in mixed marriages ... It's not that simple ... It was in the late 80s and early 90s that people fled from their homes, Azerbaijanis from Armenia, Armenians from Azerbaijan, abandoning everything except documents, if only stay alive and save your children and old people. So to hope that the Armenians will run away leaving everything intact is naive, it is also naive to assert that 700 thousand Azerbaijanis will want to return to Karabakh destroyed by the war.
  20. -5
    3 October 2020 19: 22
    Quote: VictorM
    Shushan Stepanyan, by the way, wow, so little chick, it will go well with vodka and herring, in short, this beautiful young lady just forgot to clarify, that the Armenian troops, as a result of a counterattack of their rear and ahead of the train, took Magadiz, or, fucking, left, as is correct? laughing

    Sorry for the gags of the gateway level, but men, are you going to discuss military issues, on business, sorting out the nuances, since everything is recorded on video and photos or is Shushan Stepanyan's erotic fantasies?

    What counterattacks ?! The Armenians are skittish, the men dress their eyes ... although her face is nothing, if you believe one legend of the First Karabakh War, then some company of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces will be lucky ...

    Sorry, Madagiz laughing
  21. +1
    3 October 2020 19: 37
    Friends, 6 days have passed since the start of this batch. Judging by the analysis of the articles on the website, the bulk of the respondents willingly sided with Armenia. I want to remind you that all this mess is taking place on the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan, and de jure (that is, officially) has nothing to do with Armenia itself or the CSTO. It is about the purely personal relations of Azerbaijan to the 7 regions seized from it, and the self-proclaimed "NKR", which even Armenia itself does not recognize in any way. The Russian Federation and the whole world recognize the "disputed territory" of Nagorno-Karabakh under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan itself has no claims to the territory of Armenia, realizing that if it moves even a centimeter deep into this republic, it will have serious claims from the CSTO. Hence the moral, let Azerbaijan calmly finish what they started, without questions, without fakes, without emotions and pro-Armenian attacks. Believe me, Azerbaijan is much closer to the Russian Federation than Armenia, take this as a fact, an axiom, from a person dedicated to all this cuisine, who is directly on the line of this "chaos" :)
    1. +1
      3 October 2020 19: 47
      No no no. Most of the respondents are on the side of Russia. This is not our war.
      1. 0
        3 October 2020 19: 50
        Exactly! Let them figure it out! Not "our" Armenian presenters on all TV channels, but themselves, in the field!
    2. 0
      3 October 2020 23: 00
      Quote: Svidetel
      This is about the purely personal relations of Azerbaijan to the 7 regions seized from it,

      The NKR was the Shusha district of the Caspian region of the Russian Empire, so what is the claim? The Karabakh Khanate, like the Baku Khanate, were in the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR is also less than 100 years old, military raids on the NKR somehow do not look very reasonable.
  22. -2
    3 October 2020 19: 44
    Quote: Nagan
    Firstly, production, even jointly with Israel, has volume restrictions, even in 3 shifts without days off. Secondly, at least in the press, the Azerbaijanis place their main emphasis on Bayraktar (maybe it is inconvenient to advertise relations with Israel?). And only Erdogan has a stock of ready-made Bayraktars.

    Erdogan himself has few of them, and the rate of production of new ones is low, and Azerbaijan has bought only 5-7 pieces.

    How not tired of everyone chewing the Armenian gum about Bayraktary?

    Azerbaijan has been producing more advanced drones under an Israeli license for a long time.
    For the eleventh time I will repeat, I began to produce both before Turkey and before Russia, which also bought a license from Israel and, moreover, for the same reconnaissance UAVs ("Orlan").

    Sorry, but the arrogance and ostentatious condescension of some writers is not that annoying and simply inappropriate, but, so to speak, cause fits of laughter. Okay, Azerbaijan, he bought a license and bought it for the best, but Russia with its aircraft industry and megalomania of some local sights could not create its own, and came to a purchase only after its little neighbor, who is both "close-minded" and "his generals are stupid ", and" the president is stupid ", and here everyone is smart, but they are just slow-witted and late ignition, so what? laughing The facts, not the chatter, show that Azerbaijan approached the military construction VERY and VERY correctly, thoughtfully.
    Many people are scribbling about UAVs near Iravan, but for purkuy they are needed there? How to so humbly remind laughing that Azerbaijan also has dual-use satellites ... In addition, the country has deployed its own ground-based system for precise determination of coordinates, etc. and so on. And yes, "stupid aizers", it was the Armenians who said so, but they can be trusted laughing And the fact that during the crisis years it was the "stupid aizers" that kept Russia building nuclear submarines, air defense systems, etc., etc., well, after all, the Armenians said that, for example, Ashurbeyli "byaka" means byaka ...
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 03: 07
      earlier than Russia, which also bought a license from Israel and, moreover, for the same reconnaissance UAVs ("Orlan")
      I bring to your attention that the Orlan-10 is a purely Russian development (the production of which is patented by its Russian creators Yes ). And from Israel, Russia bought a license to manufacture the Forpost UAV. I was only interested in one circumstance. Are you INCIDENTLY wrong, or are you deliberately sketching?
      hi
  23. +2
    3 October 2020 19: 44
    Azerbaijanis proved themselves to be complete losers:
    brought in a hired shantrap,
    themselves went under the command of the Turks,
    moreover, they got shit in public.
    1. -1
      3 October 2020 19: 57
      "brought in a hired shantrap,
      they themselves went under the command of the Turks ... "
      proofs, as they say, in the studio ...
      Or how should we perceive it? how pro-Armenian vyser?
      [media=https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/8/5/0/13011058.jpg]
      1. +1
        3 October 2020 20: 01
        everything will come up at the trial
      2. 0
        3 October 2020 21: 01
        Quote: Svidetel
        rufs, as they say, in the studio ...

        So here, I did not see an intelligible explanation here
        https://youtu.be/mWHQvRMI5e0
  24. +1
    3 October 2020 20: 18
    Witness:
    Your possible quote, after the attempt to attack the Donbass by Bandera
    “Friends, 6 days have passed since the beginning of this batch. Judging by the analysis of the articles on the site, the bulk of the respondents willingly stand on the side of Russia. has nothing to do with Russia itself or the CSTO. This is a purely personal relationship of Ukraine to the captured from it parts of 2 regions, and the self-proclaimed "DPR" and "LPR", which even Russia itself does not recognize. RF and the whole world recognizes the "disputed territory" of the "DPR" and "LPR" for the jurisdiction of Ukraine. Ukraine itself has no claims to the territory of Russia, realizing that if it moves even a centimeter deep into this federation, it will have serious claims from the CSTO. Hence the moral, let Ukraine calmly finish what they started, without questions, without fakes, without emotions and pro-Russian attacks Believe me, Ukraine is much closer to you than Russia, take this as a fact, an axiom, from a person dedicated to all this cuisine, directly but staying on the line of this "chaos".
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 18: 30
      Ok, so why until now, after so much time, Russia, like the whole world, does not recognize the independence of the DPR / LPR, in fact, like Armenia of the NKR? What is the problem? Do not confuse soft with warm, Azerbaijanis and Armenians are not ethnically Slavs, and the LPR has never been a part of independent Russia!
  25. -9
    3 October 2020 20: 25
    Quote: starley
    everything will come up at the trial

    I also hope that the international tribunal will be immediately requested as soon as the occupation troops are kicked out ... At the same time, I know that it will not be, since the main accused will be cleaned out by their accomplices - they will clean it up already well.
  26. -5
    3 October 2020 20: 47
    Quote: VictorM
    Quote: VictorM
    Shushan Stepanyan, by the way, wow, so little chick, it will go well with vodka and herring, in short, this beautiful young lady just forgot to clarify, that the Armenian troops, as a result of a counterattack of their rear and ahead of the train, took Magadiz, or, fucking, left, as is correct? laughing

    Sorry for the gags of the gateway level, but men, are you going to discuss military issues, on business, sorting out the nuances, since everything is recorded on video and photos or is Shushan Stepanyan's erotic fantasies?

    What counterattacks ?! The Armenians are skittish, the men dress their eyes ... although her face is nothing, if you believe one legend of the First Karabakh War, then some company of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces will be lucky ...

    Sorry, Madagiz laughing
    Once again, sorry, the historical name was returned from that day, so SUGOVUSHAN was released.

    Hmmm, if only the President of Azerbaijan would have returned the historical name to Lake Goycha after the successful offensive of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces ... It's too early to talk about this, but a good tradition and tendency has appeared.
  27. -1
    3 October 2020 21: 09
    https://m.haqqin.az/news/190830
  28. +1
    3 October 2020 21: 12
    If you look at politics, you can go blind!
    I wish Karabakh a peaceful sky and a peaceful life!
    He served in the army together with the Armenians and Azerbaijanis, they also tried to divide Karabakh with us! It didn't work out, Russian "tolerance". After two weeks we were friends!
    1. +2
      3 October 2020 21: 18
      We have nothing to share, it's time to unite, for me this conflict is the consequences of the collapse of a great country. So the only cure is to return the former greatness and country.
  29. -2
    3 October 2020 21: 16
    While you were burying us here, we liberated Magadis today. The northern gate on NK.
  30. -4
    3 October 2020 21: 53
    Quote: MsRedMaster
    We have nothing to share, it's time to unite, for me this conflict is the consequences of the collapse of a great country. So the only cure is to return the former greatness and country.

    I also think so, we need to re-unite our country with the capital in Tabriz. Are you talking about this?

    Unfortunately, after the collapse of the Russian Empire, the northern lands of Azerbaijan were not allowed to return home, as a result, after a coup staged by farces in the 20s of the last century, the country ceased to exist. This is because our territory became the arena of a clash between the remnants of the Entente - Great Britain and France, on the one side, since the German General Staff was able to essentially destroy the Russian Empire, and on the other side, Germany and its ally Turkey. The Turks and the Germans basically put a pig on us, although the time has not yet come to talk about this story ... but how stupid are those who believe that Azerbaijan has a short memory, and he only sleeps and sees how to become a province of Turkey, or place base. Many "Ivans do not remember kinship" themselves, and they wrote us down in them.

    Great Britain, an old professional, preferred to arrange games, not reunification, despite the fact that we lost the northern territories twice fighting the Russian Empire precisely for the sake of its interests and the interests of the East India Company. And laughter and sin, because in the south the Ottoman army was driven into the fortress of Baghdad and the epidemic that had just begun saved it from complete defeat, in the north near Erzurum their superior forces were utterly defeated, because the old woman was shaking, and the Ottomans got closer to her tender than the Russian Empire, and in the north they suffered an unfortunate defeat (the Gulistan Treaty), they tried to return them later, but Russia had already transferred the troops and strengthened, as a result, the north was lost (Turkmenchay). And then Russia moved the Armenians here and rushed ...
  31. 0
    3 October 2020 22: 08
    Official Yerevan is ready to discuss within the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group the issue of the introduction of Russian peacekeepers into Nagorno-Karabakh.
  32. -2
    3 October 2020 22: 22
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Svidetel
    rufs, as they say, in the studio ...

    So here, I did not see an intelligible explanation here
    https://youtu.be/mWHQvRMI5e0

    Um, well, I see pickups, behind the scenes I hear a voice in Azerbaijani, fighters in pickups shout "Allahu Akbar!" - I hear that too, and?
    If this took place in Azerbaijan or would have taken place in Azerbaijan, I am embarrassed to ask, and has anyone heard that Azerbaijanis are Muslims? laughing
    If you put me in a pickup truck with fighters, what will you order me to shout in response to the appeal "May Allah bless you!" - in your opinion, in response to shout "Truly keeps!" overshadowing themselves with the banner of the cross? laughing laughing laughing
    Madhouse ...

    And how to attack? "Hurray" did not shout even during the exercises and my fighters shouted only "Allah!" Now it is not politically correct for us Azerbaijanis, Muslims? Like, will the Syrian fighters write?

    All the troubles from illiteracy, as there in the film of our childhood and youth: "You don't need a knife for a fool ...".
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 00: 58
      Quote: VictorM
      If this took place in Azerbaijan or would have taken place in Azerbaijan, I am embarrassed to ask, and has anyone heard that Azerbaijanis are Muslims?

      therefore they love Toyota with a cargo tailgate))))))))))))))))))))))), the picture is exactly like from recent Syria
  33. 0
    3 October 2020 22: 24
    Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
    that 700 thousand Azerbaijanis will want to return Karabakh, destroyed by the war.

    Do not worry about them so much, Azerbaijan is not a poor country and can very much even spend up to $ 1 billion on repatriation a year.
  34. -4
    3 October 2020 22: 24
    Quote: varakin_54
    Official Yerevan is ready to discuss within the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group the issue of the introduction of Russian peacekeepers into Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Uh-huh, they introduced to Georgia, for the most tomatoes ... laughing laughing laughing
    Armenians really still consider themselves the smartest, and other idiots ...

    There is nothing for foreign troops to do in Azerbaijan, the Russians have left, we will soon finish the job and we will see the Turks out, they are still needed for decency, like seconds in a duel - on the one hand, the Russian MiG-29, on the other, the Turkish F-16, how the duel will end we our seconds having thanked and kindly sent home, and let the Armenians deal with their own, this is their sovereign business.
    1. +2
      4 October 2020 02: 38
      Quote: VictorM
      There is nothing for foreign troops to do in Azerbaijan, the Russians have left, we will soon finish the job and we will see the Turks, they are still needed for decency, like seconds in a duel

      Do not indulge yourself with the illusion of independence. You have already written yourself into Turkish pawns. Therefore, the "seconds" will not go anywhere and be prepared for this.
  35. -3
    3 October 2020 22: 47




    The results of the Armenian "counteroffensive" counterattacked in such a way that the heels were sparkling ... wink
    How is the adored Shushanochka there? love getting on? ... who is herrequest interesting...

    Damn, people are kind, not very and frankly evil, well, they found someone to refer to, and even a whole topic to open, but how to present the news to the bullshit, sorry ochEn zhzhzhgyuchi brunEtki laughing
  36. 0
    3 October 2020 23: 04
    And so, today, apart from Magadiz, we "losers" dared, without asking you, to release another 7 NP and bungle a boiler in the north ...
  37. -1
    3 October 2020 23: 17
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3257726477597963&id=100000819277674&set=a.613925955311375&source=48
  38. -1
    3 October 2020 23: 25
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3257726477597963&id=100000819277674&set=a.613925955311375&source=48
  39. -1
    3 October 2020 23: 26
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2877029065917112&id=1689831254636905
  40. -3
    4 October 2020 00: 52
    In general, the Russian Federation leaves these areas for a long time to be in charge! Turks will come! in general ishe is one shah of GDP! although we will wait and see but 95% that the check! I'm just afraid that a mistake and fear of everything in the future will play a sick joke with the Russian Federation
  41. -1
    4 October 2020 02: 54
    Quote: opuonmed
    In general, the Russian Federation leaves these areas for a long time to be in charge! Turks will come! in general ishe is one shah of GDP! although we will wait and see but 95% that the check! I'm just afraid that a mistake and fear of everything in the future will play a sick joke with the Russian Federation
    The Turks will not come, Russia would probably not mind, but none of the other major players will allow the Turks to do so.
    Not quite "politically correct" and by the time what I will write below, and many fellow countrymen fooled at me sulk for it.

    In some ways, those who argue that Russia is now killing several birds with one stone are right, not even two as in the proverb.
    1. Solves the conflict at the borders, to put it mildly, she is bored.
    2. Puts Armenia in its place.
    AND...
    3. Supports trousers, according to opponents of Russia, to the unbelievable neosultan Erdogan, on whom he has control and leverage, contrary to the opinion of local personalities. And it supports the neosultan in opposition to his opponents, Erdogan is not doing well in the economy now, there are many contradictions. And Erdogan will undoubtedly write down the victory of Azerbaijan as an asset and will beat him in the interests of domestic policy and preserving his stay in power.

    Turkey in different historical periods captured half of Europe, northern Africa, almost the entire Middle East, that is, territories sometimes thousands of kilometers away from it, and these are huge distances for past centuries, BUT ... she could not do anything with Azerbaijan, which was her by her side. It captured it more than once, cut out the population, but could not hold it for a long time, and then shook it off the track to the fullest, in the end I left this thankless occupation. For those who do not know, Ottoman Turks and Azeri Turks are almost equally divided. In Turkey with a population of 80 million, ethnic Turks barely make up the majority, but there are almost the same number of Azerbaijani Turks in the region, the difference is 4-5 million maximum, and this proportion is old. Not only are different, albeit related languages, different customs and traditions, the border between us is also religion - Sunni Ottomans, Shia Azerbaijanis. This is an abyss, the Turks are trying to Sunise Azerbaijan, but have not been very successful in this, the Azerbaijanis are conservative both in matters of tradition and in the matter of religion. If a couple of centuries ago they would have asked an Azeri Turk or an Ottoman Turk who but, the first answer - I am a Muslim, they would begin to clarify, the second answer - I am a Turk. Moreover, both would have answered so.
    At one time, Great Britain supported Azerbaijan - the Qajar State, in the first place against Turkey, although, as you know, it could also direct it against the Russian Empire. Following the results of World War II, Great Britain was finally replaced by the States, but their approaches with the British are very similar. At the moment, with their confrontation with the Iranian Ayatollahs, the Americans are fomenting separatism in the southern part of Azerbaijan, which threatens Iran with either destabilization and a change of power, or even the Soviet / Yugoslav scenario.
    In the latter case, the unification of Azerbaijan is again possible, which will again become a barrier on the way of Turkey if its policy of neo-Ottomanism is continued. It is necessary to understand one more point that Erdogan and the policy of modern Turkey are fundamentally far from pan-Turkism, relatively "moderate" Islamists are in power, who only USE pan-Turkism for their own purposes, solving part of the tasks and trying to expand in the east.
    No one will let the Ottomans into Central Asia, neither Russia, nor the States, nor China, which has recently settled down well there.

    In short, the conversation is long, you need to see everything in a complex and remember that there are no friends and strong alliances, there are interests at the moment and for the future. There are no fraternal peoples, etc., there are, for example, torn to shreds, like the Russians, who, in an effort to weaken and control, were divorced as Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians. ONE people who were slandered and turned upside down history and who were once again sent along the path of the essence of the civil war, raising brother against brother. But Azerbaijanis and Ottomans are NOT BROTHERS and not one people, contrary to the now fashionable slogan, Azerbaijan has no plans to become an appendage or vassal of Turkey, if only the latter is passed on and it will again go through another spiral of history. Azerbaijan has its own interests and its own future, it is possible in an alliance with Turkey, but not in Turkey or near Turkey.
  42. -1
    4 October 2020 03: 08
    Shushan Stepanyan love and dedicated to the author of this news on this resource ...
  43. -2
    4 October 2020 11: 01
    "Destruction of the airfield" in Ganja in Armenian ... Everything, as always, realizing that there is no high-precision weapon, they hit what it was impossible to miss - in the populated areas, the civilian population.
    https://baku.tv/az/cemiyyet/25485/

    It does not reach, neither to the dog, nor to its owner, that this only aggravates their situation.
  44. 0
    4 October 2020 12: 31
    Quote: NEXUS
    Uff ... Well, let's think together ... Brest Fortress, the defense of Sevastopol, the defense of Odessa, the defense of Leningrad ... enough? Well, I can give you examples of 41 years at least until the morning.

    The Brest Fortress characterizes the Red Army in 1941. It housed units of the 17th Red Banner Brest border detachment, several units of the 132nd separate battalion of the NKVD convoy troops, 8 rifle and 1 reconnaissance battalions of the 42nd rifle division and 6th rifle division, 2 artillery divisions (PTO and air defense), some special forces of rifle regiments and corps units units, gathering of the assigned personnel of the 6th Oryol and 42nd rifle divisions of the 28th rifle corps of the 4th army, the 33rd separate engineering regiment, unit headquarters (the headquarters of the divisions and the 28th rifle corps were located in Brest), not all less than 7 thousand people, and most likely about 11000 people. At the same time, there was no single leadership. Not a single commander from battalion to division organized centralized control. Each unit is for itself, and only one infantry regiment attacked them (up to one and a half thousand infantry from three battalions of the 45th Infantry Division attacked) with reinforcement units, mainly artillery. At the same time, losses from the effects of artillery among hp were minimal (destroyed warehouses, open parking facilities, and even then not all. The Red Army was not occupied even fortifications. As a result, only prisoners were about 6800 prisoners, including about 100 commanders, and how many killed no one counted speaks of 2000). This is a complete demoralization. And individual cases of heroic defense did not solve anything. Also Sevastopol and Leningrad.
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 12: 52
      "Brest Fortress" - Yes, the defense of the fortress was led by one Major - and where all the generals and colonels were most likely part of the deaths, the rest skidded with conducting "stubborn defensive battles" to Brest and then to Minsk which they shamefully surrendered.
      1. 0
        4 October 2020 13: 45
        Amendment. He did not supervise, but coordinated the actions of individual groups of servicemen in the defense of one fortification (not the entire fortress).
  45. -3
    4 October 2020 18: 20
    Shushan Stepanyan, the press secretary of the Armenian military department, said in a statement:
    Today, 04.10.2020, the victorious army of the Republic of Armenia, acting out of modesty under the pseudonym "NKR army", once again counterattacked the enemy forces. As a result of successful battles, demonstrated unparalleled courage, the regional center, the city of Dzhabrail, and several villages of the Dzhabrail district were heroically abandoned!
    The enemy will win, victory will not be with us!


    Shushanochka love



    After repeated warnings from the Armenian Ministry of Defense and the ongoing enemy offensive, it was decided to preemptively strike all armored vehicles and vehicles of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces - 600 employees (300 crews) of the Yerevan traffic police regiment with striped strategic sticks are sent to the routes of the occupied Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent regions ...

    The women's battalion, the old men, began to rake out the cops ... Why ?! Well, it's understandable with women, after such losses they will not get married now, and maybe the baby will be like that.
    Old men with submachine guns - maybe they will take someone to shoot at and well, then you can advantageously undress and present as a shot civilian population over whom the atrocities were committed by "wild aizers".
    But with the traffic police in vain, Pashinyan does this, who then have a share, what kind of marafet should he buy for his son? ... the driver of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, except for urine and feces tests in their own pants when they meet. Not good...
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 18: 46
      Oh, VictorM, until the "dear Russians" taste the petty side of "Armenians", although in the Krasnodar / Stavropol Territories already ... they will not understand our feelings. In the 90s, in Baku, on the square of the former 11th Red Army, there was an announcement on the wall of the house: I am changing 10 eraz for a Baku Armenian. This is because Armenians in Baku have always lived better than Azerbaijanis and other nations. What prevented them from remaining human, only God knows! An Armenian church still stands in Baku, several thousand Armenians still live in Azerbaijan, one of them, today, was wounded during the shelling of the city of Ganja from Armenian territory. Ask in Yerevan, how many Azerbaijanis live there today? And the Russians? There are not even Russian schools there, in contrast to the thousands of Russian diaspora in Azerbaijan! Come to Baku and you will see real tolerance!
  46. 0
    4 October 2020 19: 17
    Quote: Svidetel
    Ok, so why still, after so much time

    Both Russia and Armenia are hoping (hoping) for some political decision and did not close the door completely, but all this is in vain, so "throwing" people who believe in you and hope for your protection is a betrayal.
  47. -2
    4 October 2020 22: 01
    Quote: svoit
    Quote: Svidetel
    Ok, so why still, after so much time

    Both Russia and Armenia are hoping (hoping) for some political decision and did not close the door completely, but all this is in vain, so "throwing" people who believe in you and hope for your protection is a betrayal.
    Armenia struck a blow at the Mingachevir hydroelectric power station ...
    If successful, there will be a huge territory in the flooding zone, which will lead to the death of more than one HUNDRED of thousands of civilians.

    Who now undertakes to justify any Armenian lies and to disassemble what the next one has said?

    Russians, I appeal to you, which of you now continues to believe that the Armenians did not beat all these days systematically and methodically in the populated areas Azerbaijan killing civilians and striking from its territory under the cover of the CSTO, that is, Russia, trying to blot out you in their crimes?

    I would like to ask, Russia did not you see the light at least now ?!

    Russia, are you with the fascists, or do you still continue to believe in their fairy tales, having become a blind instrument of nonentities ?!

    The attacks on the Mingechaur hydroelectric power station were delivered from the territory of Armenia, a state that finally showed its fascist, Nazi, vile essence. Conversations ended there.

    THIS STATE SHOULD BE DESTROYED.

    ALL THE LEADERSHIP OF ARMENIA FROM KOCHARYAN TO PASHINYAN SHOULD BE INVOLVED AS A WAR CRIMINALS.

    ARMENIAN NAZISM SHOULD BE CONDEMNED AS WELL AS GERMAN FASCISM. ASSOCIATES OF THE NAZIS ALSO BEING LIABLE.
  48. -2
    4 October 2020 23: 24
    YEREVAN, October 4 - Sputnik. The RA Ministry of Defense refutes the information of the Azerbaijani side about strikes in the direction of Mingechevir from the territory of Armenia. The press secretary of the Ministry of Defense Shushan Stepanyan wrote about this on her Facebook page.
    Archive photo
    © Sputnik/Asatur Yesayants
    The situation in Karabakh gives the right to transfer actions to the territory of Azerbaijan - Stepanakert

    "This is another falsification. No fire was fired from Armenia in the direction of Azerbaijan. This is the result of the desperate convulsions of the Azerbaijani side," she wrote.

    Earlier, the Azerbaijani authorities accused the Armenian Armed Forces of striking the territory of Mingechevir.

    It should be noted that Azerbaijan periodically carries out artillery and rocket attacks on the settlements of Nagorno-Karabakh, including the capital Stepanakert.


    Read more: https://en.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20201004/24766372/V-napravlenii-Mingechaura-udary-s-territorii-Armenii-ne-proizvodili---Minoborony.html

    Our honest girl Shushanochka love one more rose for you, and you will have a bouquet, and what will be done with a bouquet of roses in relation to you Shushanochka ...
    Desperate falsifications of Azerbaijan, as they wrapped up, for this, the bouquet will need to be cranked one more time ...
    For some reason, Shushanochka today does not write that as a result of the counterattack of the heroic Armenian army, well, remember, hiding under the pseudonym "NKR self-defense forces", today the Azerbaijani army, having raised the flag in Jabrail, barely has time to catch up with the counterattacking heroic Armenian army, simultaneously hoisting its flag in nine villages Karhulu, Shukurbeyli, Chereken, Dashkesan, Khorovlu, Mahmudlu, Jafarabad, Yukhary Maralyan, Dejal. Of course, the situation is desperate, so you counterattack on the run and sparkling with your heels that the flags do not have time to bring up.


    But Shushanochka is scary, now it is not only you who are scared, it is scary for the whole people - for the attempted murder of hundreds of thousands of people, for this Nazism, they probably did not know, but the whole people must answer.
    Well, if it arrives, you will hide in the metro, get used to it, a neo cave for savages, and now live only there, until you either wake up becoming people, but if you don't, you will have to dispose of them like mad, God forbid you bite and infect someone ...
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