The park of Armenian T-90s is expanding: the seizure of the latest tanks from the Azerbaijani troops is announced

Armenian troops began to replenish with the latest type tanks... MBT T-90 enter the army not as part of purchases in Russia, but thanks to the seizure of captured equipment from the Azerbaijani military during the battles that erupted in Karabakh.

Before the escalation of the conflict, Armenia possessed only one T-90S tank. It was received as a prize for the successful performance of the country's team at the Tank Biathlon in 2014. Then the Armenian team, which included conscripts, won second place in the military games and was awarded the MBT as the best foreign team. The T-90S from the new reserve was delivered by the Russian An-124-100 aircraft only in 2016.

According to the Armenian Military Portal resource, now the fleet of Armenian T-90s has expanded by two more vehicles. BTR-82A and BMP-2 are also awarded as trophies.

According to The Dead District, two T-90s and one BTR-82A were captured in one battle.

The armed forces of Azerbaijan have 200 T-90S tanks (according to the IISS, 100 vehicles at the beginning of 2020). The contract for the purchase of about 200 MBTs in Russia was signed in 2011, deliveries began in the spring of 2013. Along with them, the T-55 and T-72 Aslan tanks (according to the IISS, 95 and 244 units, respectively) are in service.

Comments

[Observer2014]

This is war. Some lose, others gain, and vice versa. Here is a trophy. And behind the mountain, a bunch of soldiers were killed by a drone strike.

[Insurgent]

The park of Armenian T-90s is expanding: the seizure of the latest tanks from the Azerbaijani troops is announced

Another photo of the T-90 indicated in the article, as well as the BMP-2 that became trophies of the NKR JSC.

[loki565]

Perhaps it was him knocked out of the ATGM, traces of fire are visible on the tower.

[Mwg]

What is "possible" there, after the detonation of the BC, the tank is either for scrap or in repair shops for a long time

[Warrior-80]

It looks more like they hit the front hemisphere, there was no penetration, otherwise what kind of trophy is it if everything inside is burned out

[Warrior-80]

And this makes me happy, in the sense that there seems to be no penetration and this is not the first time I have seen this, in Syria, too, the tank holds an excellent blow, the crew seems to be cowardly

[yehat2]

Quote: Warrior-80

the crew looks cowardly

maybe the tank got stuck somehow?
if at the same time they could not answer the enemy, then the only thing left for them was to flee.

[Livonetc]

The Azerbaijani army is still not ready for combat.
As if who, that did not assert, convincing the opposite.

[saigon]

I do not know how it is now, but before the pekhrura in Azerbaijan looked extremely sad, but here you have to fight with the infantry.

[Runway]

It is impossible to assess the combat readiness of both sides. The dust will settle - then we'll take a look. The technology abandoned on the march is a sadness, but not great.

[Livonetc]

Probably.
As a result of the previous companies, the Azerbaijani divisions did not show themselves from the best side and vice versa.
What could have happened drastically in the Azerbaijani army since the age of 16?
Yes, we see, we got it and learned how to use unmanned aircraft.
Another important point is the presence of flamethrower systems.
Nothing more serious paco appeared.
They have conceived this blow for a long time.
At least at the first stage, the factor of surprise and the simultaneous concentration of serious forces should have worked.
There should have been relatively serious successes in the first stage.
Further, the situation might have slowed down.
But these first successes are missing.
The Armenians have already fully mobilized.
But we will see what the answer will be.
So far, the Armenians have just shown their combat readiness by repelling the initial strike of Azerbaijan.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Livonetc

Azerbaijani units

More precisely, the Soviet ones - on the side of Azerbaijan - that's the whole vegetable to the penny

[major147]

Quote: Cowbra

More precisely, the Soviet - on the side of Azerbaijan

Moreover, it is by no means voluntary ...

[Cowbra]

So I say, forgot both sides a little ...

[Avior]

It seems that Azerbaijan itself understands that the combat readiness of its troops, by definition, is lower than that of the Armenians, therefore it relies on drones, and not on battles on the ground.
If the Azerbaijanis manage to cut off Karabakh from Armenia - and there, judging by the map, there are only two main roads, and I saw statements that they took control of one of them, and destroyed the bridge on the second, I don't know how true, then the next question will be stand, which will end earlier, the equipment of the Armenians in Karabakh, or the UAV of the Azerbaijanis.
If a UAV is possible, a temporary truce is possible, if the equipment of the Armenians, ground battles are activated, without equipment the Armenians in Karabakh will have a hard time, no matter how they surpass the Azerbaijanis in terms of combat readiness

[Pavlos Melas]

By the way, if the Turks were sent to the front, they might be able to tip the scales on the Azerbaijani side and it would be difficult to catch them in forgery.

[Avior]

I think, how many Turks will not be introduced en masse, this is a reason for both Armenia and Russia to intervene in the events.

[Pavlos Melas]

The fact is that if for a long time the operation was being prepared, then you cannot distinguish a Turk from an Azeri in six months, the Turks will be completely like an Azerbaijani to speak well, and they can prepare documents.

[major147]

Quote: Avior

I think, how many Turks will not be introduced en masse, this is a reason for both Armenia and Russia to intervene in the events.

I disagree. Okay, Armenia, but on what basis should Russia interfere?

[Avior]

It seems to me that something like "Syrian militants - terrorists - mercenaries are killing Armenians" can be voiced in justification.
If it is difficult to oppose Azerbaijan, since Azerbaijan is not formally at war with Armenia, then against the Syrian militants is another matter.
In fact, it will work against Azerbaijan, but the accents are different.
And it doesn't have to be military action, maybe just pressure.

[major147]

Quote: Avior

"Syrian militants - terrorists - mercenaries are killing Armenians"

If it was an attack on Armenia, then yes. The NKR is not a member of the CSTO, and the number of militants is not so great that the Armenians would not deal with them on their own.

[RUSS]

Quote: Avior

I think, how many Turks will not be introduced en masse, this is a reason for both Armenia and Russia to intervene in the events.

Why should Russia interfere in the internal affairs of Azerbaijan? Now Azerbaijan is at war with the occupants and separatists on its territory. Or how to send "vacationers" to Donbass? In Chechnya, we killed the separatists, in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, together with the separatists fought against the Georgians, in the Donbass the same way together, and often instead of separatists we fought with the Ukrainian army, and now what, again, to support the Karabakh separatists as in Ossetia and Donbass? Or, on the contrary, help Azerbaijan in its struggle against the unrecognized republic of NG?

[Avior]

Yes, as long as the Azerbaijanis are fighting on the territory of Azerbaijan, the likelihood of Russian interference is very low.
But if massively Syrians are against Armenians, it is noticeably higher

[Volder]

Quote: RUSS

Or how to send "vacationers" to Donbass?

"Vacationers" were not sent to Donbass - they are there voluntarily to earn extra money. There have never been professional military personnel from the regular army of the Russian Federation in Donbass.

In Chechnya, we killed separatists

This is due to the fact that Chechen separatists began to engage in outright banditry and terror, not only in their own Chechnya, but also outside of it. The activities of Chechen militants are a very bad example of a separate movement.

in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, together with the separatists, they fought against the Georgians,

When Georgia is the first to attack, including the base of Russian peacekeepers, it is difficult to resist and not to fight back, especially if there are grounds for doing so according to the norms of Russian and international law. By the way, the separatists are, on the contrary, the Georgians, because Georgia seceded from the USSR, and South Ossetia, which was a part of the Georgian SSR, chose to remain in the Union and refused to recognize the authority of Tbilisi.

in Donbass, they also fought together, and often instead of separatists they fought with the Ukrainian army

Yes, there are volunteers from Russia who are welcome in the DPR and LPR. Weapons also came from Russia.

What now, again to support the Karabakh separatists as in Ossetia and Donbass?

Armenia is interested in this. But since the leadership of Armenia is engaged in anti-Russian rhetoric and politics, the Russian Federation is still wondering whether it is worth helping ...

[Pavlos Melas]

I wonder why the minus, in the place of Ertogan and Aliyev, I would have done both a plus.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Livonetc

Yes, we see, we got it and learned how to use unmanned aircraft.

However, it is not a fact that the complexes of shock and reconnaissance UAVs are not used in coordination, and possibly with direct control of Turkish operators ...

With Israeli systems it is clearer, but Turkish ... A variant is possible.

[Albay]

Hi Gennady!
And what was wrong with the Azerbaijani army in 16? which everyone is silent. Now, yesterday they have already taken Talish, Madagiz in the north, strategic heights. In the South yesterday 2 villages were taken, and today they liberated the city of Dzhabrail and the entire Dzhebrail region.
Why not combat-ready?
What are the criteria for judging?
Here are the stupid articles Pashinyan said, someone farted, and for two days no one writes anything about how the Azerbaijani army is advancing.

[Albay]

Here are the first prisoners
https://ru.oxu.az/war/427350

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

Here are the first prisoners
https://ru.oxu.az/war/427350

Not seriously, dear Alibek.
What do these prisoners mean?
The fact that they surrendered, and did not put the last bullet in their head?
Or the fact that Azerbaijani fighters left their lives?
And the article itself is not serious.
"As you know, the Azerbaijani army has achieved significant success in its counter-offensive operations in response to enemy provocations."

[Albay]

The Livonets don't know your name, but where did I write "these prisoners"?
Why I showed this article and the photo is a response to any insurgents who believe that we are going to exterminate all Armenians. We are not Dashnaks, we do not fight with civilians, do not kill or torture prisoners.
With no less respect, with battle greetings)

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

The Livonets don't know your name, but where did I write "these prisoners"?
Why I showed this article and the photo is a response to any insurgents who believe that we are going to exterminate all Armenians. We are not Dashnaks, we do not fight with civilians, do not kill or torture prisoners.
With no less respect, with battle greetings)

Greetings Alibek!
My name is Gennady.
You did not write "these prisoners".
You wrote "here are the first prisoners."
To which I asked what significance this fact (this event) has.
I do not have a negative attitude towards Azerbaijan.
Rather the opposite.
Azerbaijan suffered in the situation with Nagorno-Karabakh.
Your situation requires a compromise.
The only option is to divide the disputed territories between Azerbaijan and Armenia ..

If Azerbaijan managed to quickly conquer Karabakh, then the "right of the strong" would work.
Azerbaijan would be condemned, but without serious consequences.

The current situation, without a quick victory for Azerbaijan, is almost equal to defeat.
Now only negotiations on a territorial division are possible.
The earlier the negotiations begin, the fewer the citizens of Azerbaijan and Armenia will die.
Complete victory in the current military campaign is no longer possible.

[Albay]

Dear Gennady!
Believe me, I have a normal attitude to all users, regardless of their position on the conflict. I respect any opinion if it is justified. Whoever remembers me, they know. As for the prisoners, they seem to have sorted it out.
In fact, for 30 years, the enemy has not made any compromises. Openly expressing the position that the territories were taken by force and if you can free them. Then there was usually delirium about the incredible spirit and invincibility of the Armenians.
I think the moment of truth has come. The war has already begun and I think, I hope, without any external interference, to end and once and for all to resolve this issue.
This is my personal position.
I do not understand why you think the current position is tantamount to the defeat of Azprbaydjan. Yesterday in one of the discussions I tried to explain how I see the situation and why I think that in military terms everything is in favor of Azerbaijan and it would be interesting to know why you think that victory is impossible? military?
With deep respect

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

Dear Gennady!
Believe me, I have a normal attitude to all users, regardless of their position on the conflict. I respect any opinion if it is justified. Whoever remembers me, they know. As for the prisoners, they seem to have sorted it out.
In fact, for 30 years, the enemy has not made any compromises. Openly expressing the position that the territories were taken by force and if you can free them. Then there was usually delirium about the incredible spirit and invincibility of the Armenians.
I think the moment of truth has come. The war has already begun and I think, I hope, without any external interference, to end and once and for all to resolve this issue.
This is my personal position.
I do not understand why you think the current position is tantamount to the defeat of Azprbaydjan. Yesterday in one of the discussions I tried to explain how I see the situation and why I think that in military terms everything is in favor of Azerbaijan and it would be interesting to know why you think that victory is impossible? military?
With deep respect

Alibek,
Today the Azerbaijani army has achieved its first real successes.
About defeat.
Azerbaijan has a very short time period for which it can achieve real military successes.
If the company drags on, then Azerbaijan will face serious problems both in the foreign policy arena and in the country.
That is, if Azerbaijan does not seize Karabakh in the near future, then it will no longer be allowed to do so.
And this does not depend on how the citizens of Azerbaijan are ready to go to the end.
And what can I wish Azerbaijan.
Try to stay away from color revolutions.
In situations similar to yours, in case of not achieving complete victory and increasing internal problems, the current government is often overthrown.
Now it will play into the hands of many pro-Western forces.
Take care of yourself and good luck!

[Albay]

Thank you for your wishes.
I also sincerely wish you all the best!
Good luck!

[SSR]

Quote: Albay

The Livonets don't know your name, but where did I write "these prisoners"?
Why I showed this article and the photo is a response to any insurgents who believe that we are going to exterminate all Armenians. We are not Dashnaks, we do not fight with civilians, do not kill or torture prisoners.
With no less respect, with battle greetings)

Kamrad, I apologize for interfering, but in the course of both sides of the conflict, where are the prisoners?
What I see, I can say one thing, moral, neither side showed a live prisoner, but they post footage with people on their knees.
The genus s.

[Albay]

Hello comrade!
Thank you for your comment, but isn't that how they take prisoners in all the armies of the world?
They even strip down to their underpants, including in Russia.
Best regards

[SSR]

Quote: Albay

Hello comrade!
Thank you for your comment, but isn't that how they take prisoners in all the armies of the world?
They even strip down to their underpants, including in Russia.
Best regards

Comrade, you misunderstood me.
Prisoners as a dem factor are always shown, but here on the contrary, like there are stills of prisoners, but they are not on official TV.
For me, this is a factor in the watchfulness of the parties.

[Albay]

Again, comrade did not understand. This is the official state site gave pictures.
What is the problem?
Nonsense you say.

[SSR]

Quote: Albay

Again, comrade did not understand. This is the official state site gave pictures.
What is the problem?
Nonsense you say.

Photos. RIP.

Quote: Herman 4223

Do you have a video with them?
Or can they no longer be removed?

Photos showed.
It's really hard when people are captains of the obvious.

[Albay]

This is on the front line, I don't know if the video is or not. In my opinion, there is no difference between video or photos. On the contrary, in my opinion, posting a video is more unethical than a photo of a captain obvious.

[kopar]

Alibek, the same in this conflict I hope that Azerbaijan will return its occupied territories. For me, the Armenians in NK, this is what the Albanians did in Kosovo ...
Politically, Azerbaijan has always leaned towards Turkey, and built economic relations with Russia.
Armenia, on the other hand, has always been on its own, and against the background of the latest Russophobia, it generally exposes us as occupants (which is not surprising, remembering how many Armenians there are in the US and Europe). But as soon as it smells of fried, they immediately remember us ...

[Albay]

Greetings to Kopar, I agree with you about Armenia, but as far as politically to whom Azerbaijan is closer, this is the fault of the former and partially current political leadership of Russia. Events in January 90 in Baku, participation of the 366th regiment in the atrocities of Khojaly. Donation of weapons to Armenia for a billion dollars. which was revealed by the late General Rokhlin, all these events showed that Russia chose another political partner at that time. If it were not for this, Azerbaijan would be politically much closer to other states of Russia. I think all the same here the religious affiliation of the parties played a role.

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

Greetings to Kopar, I agree with you about Armenia, but as far as politically to whom Azerbaijan is closer, this is the fault of the former and partially current political leadership of Russia. Events in January 90 in Baku, participation of the 366th regiment in the atrocities of Khojaly. Donation of weapons to Armenia for a billion dollars. which was revealed by the late General Rokhlin, all these events showed that Russia chose another political partner at that time. If it were not for this, Azerbaijan would be politically much closer to other states of Russia. I think all the same here the religious affiliation of the parties played a role.

Alibey, Greetings?
What happened in January 1990?
How is this directly related to the RF?
The Russian Federation was formed only in December 1991.
Before that, we were all together in the USSR.

[Albay]

Gennady, in 90, the actions of the Soviet army were still associated with Russia. I remember after the August putsch, the journalist asked Rutskoi a question, you took people out into the street, and if the army would shoot, what then? He replied that the army could not to shoot! So we were not OUR people?

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

Gennady, in 90, the actions of the Soviet army were still associated with Russia. I remember after the August putsch, the journalist asked Rutskoi a question, you took people out into the street, and if the army would shoot, what then? He replied that the army could not to shoot! So we were not OUR people?

Alibek,
In the USSR, the Russians (RSFSR) have always been in a disadvantageous position compared to other republics.
There were also events in which the army fired directly at the people in the cities of the RSFSR.
And there were no national armies either.
My company commander (during his military service in the Soviet army) was an Azerbaijani, Lieutenant Mamedov.
Did you have any complexes or humiliations on ethnic grounds during the Soviet era?

[Albay]

Gennady, no, I was not infringed upon, I managed to be a member of the Komsomol. Although even remembering that time, I understand that we were in a flawed condition. Despite the fact that we gave more than other republics, we still had a lot of trouble and cotton. shortage. In Georgia, in Armenia, food was supplied of better quality, even the supply was many times higher. After 7, in many places there was no water, as if there was a war. In Georgia and Armenia, it was of high quality around the clock.
I can cite hundreds of such examples. They drank lemonade in it there was no gas, the first time I tasted real ice cream in Moscow at the age of 13 and realized that I hadn't eaten ice cream before, but the devil knows what.

[Livonetc]

Alibek, I see.
But my friends Azerbaijanis of those years, from Baku, having arrived in Moscow to study, were very surprised at how poor we live.
Although I was born and raised in Moscow and it was a sin to complain about anything, especially in comparison with other regions of the RSFSR.

[kopar]

Gennady, so the inhabitants of the southern republics, the Baltic states, coming to Moscow and St. Petersburg, were surprised at our poverty. We fed all of Africa and Asia ...

[kopar]

You are wrong, not religious ...
Look at the composition of the USSR deputy ministers, how many Armenian surnames are there?
By the way, the first terrorist group from the Soviet Union who fought in Beirut, who is 100% by nationality?
Or do you seriously believe that the militias, without a single command center, were able to repel the attack of the army ?! Not only can you recapture, but then also seize several areas of the opponent ?!
Russia made the mistake that after the collapse of the USSR, it began to treat Christian countries (Armenia, Georgia) as its own, instead of including a market economy. Although considering how many Armenians and Georgians were in the leadership, it is not surprising ... All the people are brothers ... We were taught this way ...
We are still reaping the fruits of this.
In this regard, I like Israel, it pursues only its own interests ...

[Albay]

Dear Kopar, you are contradicting yourself. First, you say that the reason for the support of Armenians from Russia and the center was not religious, then you yourself refute this statement.
I will give you a simple example. In 1988, when the Armenians expelled Azerbaijanis from Armenia, not a single newspaper or TV wrote or said a word about this. When these refugees were located in Sumgait and Baku, and then the Armenians incited pogroms, then began to talk about the fact that Muslims are killing Christians. Few people know and preferred to remain silent about this, that the investigation carried out by the USSR Prosecutor General's Office revealed that the main instigator and the man who killed 6 Armenians and raped two Melkumyan sisters was Armenian Eduard Grigoryan, he incited the crowd and showed the addresses of the Armenians There is documentary evidence about 5 more Armenians who made the lists and participated in the pogroms? Where was it written or shown? Grigoryan was sentenced to 15 years, a year later he was transferred to Yerevan and released there. Now openly this bandit lives in Russia in the Krasnodar Territory. to the whole USSR and the world we were shown as pogromists and murderers. Throughout the entire conflict on central TV and in newspapers there was an outright lie and justification How can we explain this? How can we explain the support of an exclusively Armenian position throughout the conflict? In the 90s, politically and culturally, Turkey had no influence whatsoever in Azerbaijan. It was by their policy that the leaders of Russia, first of all, Yeltsin pushed Azerbaijan towards Turkey. events about which they probably do not know here, after the clash with the Armenians in Tovuz and the death of General Pashayev, police planes with ammunition from Russia to Yerevan. Aliyev asked Putin about this, he sends Shoigu to Baku to explain. And what does Shoigu say? That Russia is not I sent weapons, and construction materials for my base in Armenia. What did they count on with this answer? That everyone doesn’t understand or know anything? Only personal relations between the Presidents still keep us together, I think so.
Sincerely.

[SSR]

Quote: Albay

This is on the front line, I don't know if the video is or not. In my opinion, there is no difference between video or photos. On the contrary, in my opinion, posting a video is more unethical than a photo of a captain obvious.

I put it a little wrong.
Just remember, Russian paratroopers from armored personnel carriers, American Marines captured by the Iranians, footage from Syria, Pakistan.
That is, when they are taken prisoner, they begin to pressure psychologically, where the prisoners give their names and surnames, the unit number, they can say to the camera that they are occupants, and here the parties declare, they continue to show silence, it just seems to me that no conventions are observed in this conflict, was taken prisoner, photographed and consumed.

[Albay]

How do you imagine it, show it on the photo and use it?
The same can be shown on video and put into consumption. I will repeat it much better to show on video and humiliate soldiers .... in the first war, dozens of our soldiers were filmed and then tortured and shot, so what? ? Which one of you or the international community is outraged?
You in my opinion are not logical.
Here is the appeal of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry.
"Addressing the Armenian citizens of our country living in settlements in the combat zone, the military command of Azerbaijan declares that the Azerbaijani army does not target the civilian population, civilian objects and infrastructure." This is stated in the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

“The targets of the Azerbaijani army are firing positions, military facilities and military infrastructure in the occupied territories. In this regard, we call on the civilian population living in these areas to stay away from the war zone.

We declare that we will create the appropriate conditions for them not to suffer from heavy fighting and to be evacuated from this area without hindrance. Civilians will be treated in accordance with the requirements of the Geneva Convention and their human rights will be protected, ”the statement said.

[Herman 4223]

Do you have a video with them?
Or can they no longer be removed?

[Insurgent]

Quote: WFP

The dust will settle - then we'll take a look.

I'm afraid the Turks won't let the dust settle. How would not have to (VIDEO).

[media = https: //youtu.be/u-EmfUxNmfY]

[Alien From]

Oh how! And again, mattresses are more and more known))

[Cowbra]

Y-yes ... Something I remembered the morning tales on this portal, that the non-Turk broke through everything, defeated everyone, and the armored vehicles with artillery from the Armenians had already been destroyed three times

[saigon]

Fairy tales will be more challenging, what and what can I tinker with.
Moreover, storytellers from the Ukrainian Maidan are very active here.

[uranium]

“Meanwhile, in the pillbox, the Armenian soldiers are chained so that they do not run away

[Cowbra]

Quote: saigon

Fairy tales will be more challenging, what and what can I tinker with.
Moreover, storytellers from the Ukrainian Maidan are very active here.

[uranium]

It's a pity I can't put the video, but if you want to find it yourself

[hrych]

Pathetic propaganda. Very pathetic. It may seem original to you, but we don't. The castle is heavy, especially at the top. It will never be like this in natural conditions. They also tried to show this nonsense in a damaged truck, but without a corpse. Not original and stupid.

[sifgame]

I never could understand why someone chained in a pillbox should shoot back and fight to the last for the one who chained ?!

[Albay]

Sometimes during the wars, the soldiers themselves asked them to be chained, covering the retreat of their comrades, so that at the last moment they would not become cold-hearted and not escape. In World War II, many Germans did this.

[the finish]

What to shackle them, if they even wanted to spit on your drones?

[uranium]

Perhaps that is why Pashinyan calls VVP and Macron every day?

[Vadim237]

And in packs from their spit go to the grave.

[Cananecat]

,, In the meantime, in the pillbox, the Armenian soldiers are chained so that they do not run away request

And the chain is fresh and the lock is neat and the chain didn’t even come down with anything when the bunker was destroyed? ))

[Albay]

What do you think should have been chained with a rusty lock last year?))

[Cananecat]

I think that someone is spreading misinformation ...

[Albay]

I can’t say disinformation or not, but in my opinion a fresh chain and a new lock is not an argument to assert that this is disinformation.

[Cananecat]

You could call it staged shooting ... what will change from this? )))

[Albay]

On equipment, what can you call staged shooting?))
Why can't the lock be new and the chain clean? I repeat, the dude hasn't been chained for months. There are no arguments to consider the photo staged.

[Cananecat]

We look at the scattered cartridges and look at the chain, we look at the cartridges and we look at the lock, we look at the cartridges and we look at the barrel, we look at the cartridges and we look at the leg .... am I the only one who see the discrepancy? )))

[Albay]

I don't see the photo now. First, you wrote that the chain is clean and the lock is new, and here is the fact that it was a misinformation! I argued that this fact cannot be an argument.
Now you are joking about cartridges, about the barrel.
What do you want to say, speak directly, and I will probably see the photo in two days.

[Bakinec]

The fake photo is immediately visible. The picture below shows two tanks and one tank in the photo from different angles. What made it difficult to photograph the entire armored personnel carrier and tanks.

[Alena-Baku]

here are the first official military Armenian terrorists

[Orange bigg]

Do you support the cannibals Aliyev and Edik? Masochists? They send you to the slaughter and you are happy.

[the finish]

Here is published a military review and a vargonzo video of retreating under fire from Azerbaijani infantry, Syrian mercenaries dancing in the front-line Horadiz, and aerodata about the arrival of three planes with Afghan mercenaries.

[Orange bigg]

Aiding terrorism. Favorite fun of NATO countries. Azerbaijan decided to learn from the experience. One plus only is that terrorists are sent to slaughter like cattle. They are used and thrown out. Their soldiers are taken care of.

[vex]

In the 90s, both Mozhdahidov and Chechens were already imported. Basayev received his baptism of fire in Karabakh and met Hottab.

[Bakinec]

Fake emissions of Armenians about some kind of mercenaries from Azerbaijan have two tasks
1. The Armenians have been convinced for years that the Armenian soldier catches a bullet with his teeth, the head is made of concrete, the Azerbaijani soldier cannot even look in his direction. Therefore, now the Armenian agitprop is inventing any heresy in order to convince its own citizens that the Armenian soldiers are being killed by ISIS, Syrian militants, the Taliban, the Turks, but not Azerbaijanis. It was also 2016 - according to the Armenians, our tanks were driven by Ukrainians, the pilots were Israelis and Turks.
2. The Armenians want to involve Russia in the conflict. Therefore, either the Syrian militants are shooting them, then some invisible Turkish F16 attacks them.

[Orange bigg]

What are you trying to instill in us? There are objective means of control. The Turkish F-16s, together with the pilots, remained in Azerbaijan after the exercises. The Azerbaijani MiG-29s after "quality" repairs at the Lvov plant are not so hot, and they are old Soviet aircraft. Here are the Turks and help.
Read translations of Western newspapers, but the same Turkish ones where Erdogan made it clear that mercenaries from Syria are participating in the conflict on the side of Azerbaijan. This is a fact, not a fake.

[Avior]

What are the objective controls? Where can you see?

[Bakinec]

Where did Erdogan make it interesting? And the translations of Western newspapers from what day have become absolute truth.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bakinec

Where did Erdogan make it interesting? And the translations of Western newspapers from what day have become absolute truth.

Erdogan's interview with Sabah newspaper. He no longer tries to hide it.

[Bakinec]

and what is in this sabah?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bakinec

and what is in this sabah?

And not only there is information on this topic.

A statement published on the SOHR website claims that 4 Syrian militants have been sent to Azerbaijan to date, of which 320 militants have been transferred to the Azerbaijani authorities by Turkish military companies. As reported by Rudaw with reference to one of the commanders of the Syrian National Army (SNA), formerly known as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), General Ziyad Hagie Ubeyd, SNA militants went to Azerbaijan to fight. In addition, BBC Türkçe, with reference to the Sultan Murad and Hamza brigades, which are part of the SNA, informs about the dispatch of about 500 militants from Jerablus to Azerbaijan. , Chobanbei and Afrin.

As you know, when the Turkish authorities intervened in the war in Libya to support the Government of National Accord (GNA), similar events took place. The information that Turkey sent thousands of jihadist fighters from Syria to Libya in order to support the NTC has been on the agenda for a long time, but has not received confirmation from the official authorities. Exactly until the moment when President Erdogan said in February 2020: "We are there, there are our military heroes, our troops from the Syrian National Army."

https://inosmi.ru/politic/20201002/248238717.html

[Bakinec]

And not only there is information on this topic. - I understand that nothing was found in sabah?
"As reported by Rudaw with reference to one of the commanders of the Syrian National Army (SNA), formerly known as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), General Ziyad Haji Ubeid" - you know, I met with this general and he swore that he did not know no rudava, and does not even know where Azerbaijan is. Do you believe me? Or do you believe only the information where they write Armenian - fakes about Azerbaijan

[Pavlos Melas]

Come on, from your side, the agitropist works no worse, write about the hordes of Kurds. Something the PKK fighters are not visible among those killed by the Armenians.

[Bakinec]

Did you sort the dead yourself?

[Pavlos Melas]

No God forbid, but so numbness if the Kurds were, you would have already found them among the killed. Even before the hostilities, accusations against the Armenians about involving the Kurds in this conflict were slipped. I personally do not see any reason for the Armenians to use the Kurds. But it makes sense to blame, the Armenians are accomplices of terrorists once cooperating with the PKK (PKK).

[Oquzyurd]

What do you say to that?
"Komsomolskaya Pravda": Syrian militants from "Nubar Ozanyan" are fighting on the side of Armenia
"Authoritative experts" continue to talk about Syrian mercenaries arriving in Karabakh from Azerbaijan, Komsomolskaya Pravda writes.

As proof, we are shown "photo-video from social networks." Moreover, there are other evidences, which for some reason are not so readily replicated, that militants of the Syrian Nubar Ozanyan group from the “Kurdish self-defense units”, an organization recognized as terrorist in some countries, are operating from the western line of the Karabakh front. Which, in its own way, is even logical: one unrecognized entity (Kurds) helps another - "NKR".

Moreover, for every "evidence of the presence of foreign mercenaries in Azerbaijan" one can find no less powerful statements by some "veterans of local wars" who gather near Khankendi, the newspaper writes.

Also, "experts from social networks," the publication continues, call the Russian Foreign Ministry as a witness, which, indeed, expressed concern about the transfer of militants from other countries to the conflict area.

“The problem is that the Foreign Ministry did not say WHERE these militants are being transferred. Whereas, for example, the head of the department for resettlement affairs of the Kashatagh region of the "NKR" Robert Matevosyan said that a group of hundreds of armed volunteers, including ... immigrants from Syria, had moved to the front from this region, "the newspaper notes.

[Pavlos Melas]

In my non-professional opinion: the Kurds are essentially partisans imprisoned for the area in which they live. In a serious war where regular units are involved, it is not logical to use them. Yes, it would be super trained saboteurs who could carry out devversion in the rear of the Azerbaijani troops, they would be a good judge. On the other hand, the Azeri use Syrian and Arab mercenaries as the first wave of bashi bouzouks is very logical. You attack you for any losses will be higher, the number of these losses must be somehow reduced. Correct me if I am wrong in my views.

[Oquzyurd]

Our losses are 10 times less than the Armenian ones. Why does Azerbaijan need incomprehensible mercenaries if modern technologies are at its disposal to help not send its own people to slaughter? No matter how you want, Azerbaijan does not hire militants, they are not needed. Moreover, all the enemies are waiting for this moment, even without these militants, they are ready to "prove" that they exist. There are no such thugs in Azerbaijan, they are not. They write to Armenia, and it's not us, but Komsomolskaya Pravda

[Pavlos Melas]

Well, it would be naive to assume that Armenians and Azeris do not have access to different newspapers or online publications. So different newspapers will write custom-made articles. Until the hostilities end, or until reinforced concrete evidence is presented, it is difficult to believe in something. As for the scumbags, both Armenians and Azeris have a place to draw volunteers and not dubious ones tainted in terrorism but quite "profitable" Lebanese and Syrian Armenians are not accused of terrorism, nor are Turkomans. In addition, the Azeri, if they themselves cannot, do not want, or if they have any other reasons to attract the side fighters, can attract the Turks and no one will ever prove that the mercenaries fought. So until the Arab and Kurdish terrorists are shown with strong evidence, this is all propaganda.

[the finish]

Ozanyan's name was not Nbar, but Andranik.

[mitroha]

Therefore, now the Armenian agitprop is inventing all sorts of heresy to convince its own citizens that the Armenian soldiers are being killed by ISIS, Syrian militants, the Taliban, the Turks, but not Azerbaijanis.

And you, as I understand it, want them to know and say that they are being killed only Azerbaijanis?

[Bakinec]

It's not that I want something or not. Just the Armenians think that even the bullet of an Azerbaijani soldier is afraid of flying towards the zinvoor (then the bish of an Armenian soldier)

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Alena-Baku

Armenian military terrorists

Study the definition of a terrorist. Then you will be clever

[Mountain shooter]

War ... that they did not finish their studies in peacetime will have to be studied with blood and where, as in a hurry. Throwing armored vehicles is the last thing.

[polk26l]

The Artsakh army clearly does not have enough air defense equipment to fight the attack drones, from which they suffer heavy losses! An urgent need to strengthen air defense!

[Bakinec]

It's too late. Partzakh's army will be saved only by flight beyond the borders of Azerbaijan

[vindigo]

Only not to our Russia.

[7,62x54]

Expensive price for a tank, it would be better to exchange for raisins and dried apricots. They are all healthier than palm oil.

[Thunderbolt]

Before the escalation of the conflict, Armenia possessed only one T-90S tank. It was received as a prize for the successful performance of the country's team at the "Tank Biathlon" in 2014

It was a training tank
I admire the Jesuit logic of the Russian military-industrial complex. Keep it up, the team of Armenia / CSTO /.

Give it to Ankara!

[fn34440]

The Ministry of Defense of Armenia reported on the offensive in the morning of 03.10. Azerbaijani troops in Nagorno-Karabakh in the northern and southern directions. According to the press secretary of the department Shushan Stepanyan, stubborn battles are going on.


More and more heavy weapons are being used
Armenia and Azerbaijan have not yet used all their combat capabilities
Great forces are concentrated in these areas. The Armenian military is holding back the enemy's advance, suffering very heavy losses, Stepanyan wrote on Facebook.
Who would doubt that.
Musulim petrodollars cannot be compared with apricot cutters. While.......

[Thunderbolt]

YuVO is in the "daytime, ori" mode "Rise, Alarm"

[Avior]

Formally, Armenia does not participate in hostilities.

[Pavlos Melas]

It is true that this conflict will end only in Ankara, but to be fair, it must be said that the Azeris have nominally the right to act in Karabakh. This territory is officially recognized for them.

[Keyser soze]

Azeris have nominally the right to act in Karabakh.

Pavlos, good shit. The Turks also have a nominal right to Constantinople, which does not mean that they generally have a right to the great city of Constantine. This shrine of Byzantium must be Greek and must be recaptured from the Turks. Cartagen must be destroyed.

[Pavlos Melas]

Of course, Carthage should be destroyed, but the Armenians did not even recognize Nagorno-Karabakh as an independent state, look now there are military actions only in Karabakh. This gives the Armenians a clear advantage to the Azeri to choose the place and time.

[Alexey G]

Strong!!!!

[Astra wild]

"Armenia possessed only one T-90S", and now it is a new addition. Pashinyan should call Aliyev.
Dear Ilham, thanks for the tanks. You are a true friend

[Vadim237]

Judging by the first photo, one of the T 90 Khan's shells hit the roof.

[Alexey Sommer]

I'll get the hour from the Armenian censorship minus 10, but the truth is more expensive.

Pashinyan named the condition of the negotiations on Nagorno-Karabakh

(C)

President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said that he saw no point in negotiations with the head of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan, and demanded the return of Nagorno-Karabakh

(C)
Winners do not talk about negotiations.
Pashinyan, he is Pashinyan .. Ara.
The Armenians lifted Pashinyan on the Maidan, rejoiced, turned away from Russia. Wanted "lace panties" like in the EU.
Now receive and sign the receipt.
And the T90 is just a tank. losses are inevitable in war.
ps another lesson for Lukashenka. But is the horse feed? ...

[Orange bigg]

And what do you want? Miracles do not happen. If the already small Defense Army of Artsakh is not sufficiently equipped. How can you hope that in case of war you will have to fight at the expense of trophies captured from the advancing larger army of Azerbaijan? This is utopia. Self-confidence seems to have played a cruel joke with the Armenians. It was necessary to prepare for the war in advance and properly. And not to say that if we fight with captured equipment, it will be enough for us.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Self-confidence seems to have played a cruel joke on the Armenians. It was necessary to prepare for the war in advance and properly.

Alexander, they thought that they would screw up on Russia in front of the door (Maidan-Pashinyan), and we would settle down and go to fight for them again.
But they miscalculated this time. Let the sponsor of Pashinyan, Soros send them new divisions for reinforcement.
This is a natural result of betrayal.

[Orange bigg]

Since we can fight for Karabakh if ​​we do not recognize it ourselves? We can only help with weapons. The CSTO obligations concern only Armenia itself. It's just that the Armenians reacted lightly to the strengthening of the Azerbaijani army. There was once. Maidanili And whoever is in Maidan always loses territory.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: OrangeBigg

We can only help with weapons.

We can. But now let Soros pay for it.

[Orange bigg]

I think that Pashinyan is not against merging Karabakh at the request of his overseas partners, simultaneously blaming Russia for everything and closing our base in Armenia. After all, Armenia needed the base for insurance. And if Karabakh is squeezed out, then what will be the point. After that you can Armenia will think about NATO and about investments. I think this was the meaning of Pashinyan's coming to power, and the anti-Russian protests in Armenia and the attack on the "Karabakh" ones that followed.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: OrangeBigg

I think that Pashinyan is not against merging Karabakh at the request of his overseas partners

And his compatriots will not hang for testiculus in that case?
Will we lose the base? Well, let it go. We now have it in Syria. Moreover, 90% of Armenians served on that base. Let Pashinyan find them jobs now.
Well, at least we will get rid of one parasite.
We will build normal relations with Azerbaijan on the other hand.
You can come to an agreement with Azeris. easier than with Arami at least.

[Orange bigg]

So he will say that he did everything he could, but the forces are not equal and betrayed. In short, he is not to blame. Russia will be accused of everything. He will only in fact help to drain Karabakh. Few people will understand this, but he will fulfill his task before the Western curators. He is not one of the "Karabakh" ones. It is not in vain that he harasses them.

We will build normal relations with Azerbaijan on the other hand.
You can come to an agreement with Azeris.

What to agree on? We are competitors with them on oil and gas, and there is nothing else to negotiate about. Azerbaijan is in fact occupied by Turkey and Israel.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: OrangeBigg

What to agree on? We are competitors with them on oil and gas, and there is nothing else to negotiate about. Azerbaijan is in fact occupied by Turkey and Israel.

Do you think Azerbaijanis don't need us without Armenia?
How many of them work here? Not less than Armenians.

Quote: OrangeBigg

So he will say that he did everything he could, but the forces are not equal and betrayed.

Let him speak. Before him everything was smooth, but now "Well, I couldn't, .. I couldn't!"
Not all Armenians will be satisfied with these arguments.
ps And after the loss of Karabakh, do you think that Ar will begin a cloudless life?) They need our base like air, Armenia, this state is a loser.
You must die. This is what awaits Armenia without Russia.

[the finish]

Will he receive big dividends upon surrender of Karabakh and withdrawal of the base? The second point most likely will not be in time - they will hang. And it will already be meaningless that she is what is not.

[Orange bigg]

Not hang. Not he will be designated as the main reason for the defeat, but the inequality of forces and "betrayal" of Russia. He simply directs the already ongoing process in the right direction.

[the finish]

it does not change anything - they will hang.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Not he will be designated as the main reason for the defeat, but the inequality of power and "betrayal" of Russia

Under Sargsyan, everything was smooth, under Pashinyan, Russia betrayed ..
Do you seriously think that the argument with the betrayal of Russia will matter when the Armenians lead Pashinyan to trial?

[Pavlos Melas]

And here I disagree with you Pashinyan will not lose anything in any case. The excuse is easy to find: "I have not been in power for a long time, the previous rulers and their pro-Russian policies are responsible for everything." And if we take into account that the previous ones are the Karabakh clan, then maybe the loss of Karabakh for Pashinyan is not a loss at all?

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

And if we take into account that the previous ones are the Karabakh clan, then maybe the loss of Karabakh for Pashinyan is not a loss at all?

You understand, this "clan" is called Armenia, or Armenians, it is not just a clan. They are Armenians. They will cook Pashinyan alive in boiling oil.

[Orange bigg]

Yes, of course, Karabakh is not a loss for him. His goal is to integrate Armenia into the West as a member of Western alliances, to drain Karabakh. Borders will open, investments will go, and in time everything will be forgotten. His role is akin to that of the current President of Serbia, Vucic. There is Kosovo, and here is Karabakh.

[Pavlos Melas]

No, it will not be forgotten, but in fact, yes, Armenia will be completely torn away from Russia.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

but in fact, yes, Armenia will be completely cut off from Russia.

As one character said above - "we will get rid of the parasite."

[Pavlos Melas]

You want to say that the struggle between the USSR and the USA. Great Britain and Ingushetia for spheres of influence was senseless or Iran feeding Shiites everywhere or CA and Qatar fighting for allies are also not smart people?

[The eye of the crying]

I want to say that among the "patriots of Russia" there is an opinion that Armenia is a parasite. There is also an opinion that Russia should sell weapons to both sides, because it is profitable.

By the way, the USSR has been gone for 30 years, the Republic of Ingushetia - already 100. And the struggle for spheres did not save them.

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

I want to say that among the "patriots of Russia" there is an opinion that Armenia is a parasite.

I won't argue with that, but maybe instead of getting rid of it, I will force you not to be a parasite?

There is also an opinion that Russia should sell weapons to both sides, because it is profitable.

It is a very correct opinion, but nevertheless, it must be taken into account that Azerbaijan has more maneuvers than Armenia, why allow and encourage Armenia to maneuver?

By the way, the USSR has been gone for 30 years, the Republic of Ingushetia - already 100. And the struggle for spheres did not save them.

Ri and the USSR did not collapse because of the presence of spheres of influence.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

I won't argue with that, but maybe instead of getting rid of it, I will force you not to be a parasite?

I will not ask how Russia can now force Armenia to do at least something, but how can a small, distant Armenia be useful to Russia?

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Very correct opinion

We will not analyze the ethical side, but this opinion makes the struggle for spheres of influence meaningless. Russia will be treated simply as an arms dealer.

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Ri and the USSR did not collapse because of the presence of spheres of influence.

Sure. Only the presence of spheres of influence did not save them. So it is quite possible that the fight for them was pointless.

[Pavlos Melas]

but how can a small, distant Armenia be useful to Russia?

Yes, at least as a factor of instability, for example, on Georgia, to put pressure through the Armenian diaspora to hold it against the Sultan when the Sultan is too upset. Here Russia has nothing to do with it, but everyone understands everything. It is not ethical, but in principle, to use Armenia as a kid who sells bricks.

Russia will be treated simply as an arms dealer.

Perhaps I am wrong, but the United States also sells weapons, but for example, the F-15 did not sell to Greece in due time, but Israel received it. That is, there are options to be the prevailing pole of power by selling weapons to two players.

Sure. Only the presence of spheres of influence did not save them. So it is quite possible that the fight for them was pointless.

One can cite the example of the South Caucasus and the United States, which fed and feed from their spheres of influence, a vivid example of a reviving Germany which competes with France within the EU for spheres of influence and is successfully growing rich.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

at least as a factor of instability, for example, on Georgia, to put pressure through the Armenian diaspora to hold it against the Sultan when the Sultan is too upset.

That is, Armenia should be ready to fight for Russia? With Turkey? I don't think Armenia will agree to this.

Quote: Pavlos Melas

The United States also sells weapons, but for example, the F-15 did not sell to Greece at the time, and Israel received

And here is it? If Greece fought with Israel and they both sold the F-15 - it would be similar.

Quote: Pavlos Melas

As an example

It was about the senselessness of the struggle between the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR. If for someone such a struggle was meaningful, for RI and the USSR it does not change anything.

[Pavlos Melas]

That is, Armenia should be ready to fight for Russia? With Turkey? I don't think Armenia will agree to this.

Sometimes you can make an offer that cannot be refused, but seriously, why should you immediately fight with skillful actions to shove them, for example, a C 400 and put it where the Turks will be very nervous if it will not be a decision?

And here is it? If Greece fought with Israel and they both sold the F-15 - it would be similar.

I would like to emphasize by this that there are clients and there are strategic allies, another example can be the Arab Emirates receive the F-35 after the recognition of Israel.

It was about the senselessness of the struggle between the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR. If for someone such a struggle was meaningful, for RI and the USSR it does not change anything.

Here I swami agree that building only schools and hospitals will not go far.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

to shove them, for example, a C 400 and put it where the Turks are very unnerved will it be a decision?

Solution to what problem? Even if the Turks are nervous, what is the benefit for Russia? Although they will not, it is obvious that Armenia will not climb into Turkey, as well as Turkey against Armenia (NATO and the CSTO).

Quote: Pavlos Melas

can be another example the Arab Emirates receive the F-35 after the recognition of Israel

Again you gave an example when the USA does not sell weapons to the two sides of the conflict.

Quote: Pavlos Melas

I swami agree that building only schools and hospitals will not go far.

You agree with what I didn't say. By the way, even the USSR did not only build schools, especially RI. To "fight for spheres of influence" you need either a business plan or a moral and ethical idea. In the case of Armenia, I do not see either one or the other.

[svoit]

Quote: Livonetc

What could have happened drastically in the Azerbaijani army since the age of 16?

How that, after a fire defeat, the Syrian infantry will go (it will also cut out the peacekeeper later), and only then the Azerbaijani.
Corrected tactics a little.

Quote: Albay

The Armenians have already fully mobilized.

The bridge that was blown up, that it was not very much used for the transfer of troops, or did you wait for the night?

Quote: Bakinec

Partzakh's army will be saved only by flight beyond the borders of Azerbaijan

It's an illusion, escape has never saved anyone

[Master]

Who's talking about why not prisoners. The first batch of fresh prisoners. Today Azerbaijani army took 5 prisoners during the storming of the post

[shtatsov]

I don't understand why the minuses were thrown over the photo. Corrected a little.

[fn34440]

And Erdogan is wise.
Azerbaijani forces gained full control over a Russian military airbase in Armenia.

The Russian military airbase in Gyumri on the territory of Armenia is currently actively controlled by the Azerbaijani military, who, as it became known, received tactical missile systems "Lora" from Israel. The range of the latter is sufficient to reach the Russian military airfield from the border areas, while the tracking of the Russian military airbase is carried out by Turkish fighters, reconnaissance aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles.
If the Russian Ministry of Defense dwells on the building of churches and infirmaries, there will be no good.
The Turkish Defense Ministry is not engaged in such destructive activity.

[Bakinec]

Why would Azerbaijan keep an eye on the Russian base. Azerbaijan needs Karabakh. Couldn't think of something smarter to raise the Russians against the Azerbaijanis? Well, write about the next Turkic f16.

[fn34440]

0
"Why does Azerbaijan need to keep an eye on the Russian base. Azerbaijan needs Karabakh. Couldn't they come up with something smarter to raise the Russians against the Azerbaijanis? Well, write about another Turkic f16."
It is important to understand that Russia is Armenia's partner in the CSTO, and Yerevan has the right to request any support. Until that moment, Moscow will not intervene in the situation, however, apparently, Baku believes that Russia's demonstration of force and full control over the military airbase in Gyumri is an effective measure, although this will only aggravate the position of Azerbaijan, despite the support from Turkey.
So, dear effendi.

[Bakinec]

Oh my cat! That is, you think that Azerbaijan scares Russia, they say, if you help Armenia, I will capture you? Bravo! You have revealed all the plans of Azerbaijan.

[fn34440]

Hazreleri, will you interpret my vision of the situation for me?
Although it is time to revive the Russian Empire within its former borders.
In order to end all wars at once and stop the enrichment of Turkey, Israel, and so on. greedy for the post-USSR good, shvantoty.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bakinec

Oh my cat! That is, you think that Azerbaijan scares Russia, they say, if you help Armenia, I will capture you? Bravo! You have revealed all the plans of Azerbaijan.

Yes, these are not the plans of Azerbaijan, but the United States and companies, Turkey and Azerbaijan are only accomplices of the Stars-Stripes. It's also a secret to me. The hegemons are completely frostbitten. They are preparing for a battle with China, so they are in a hurry to clean up the clearing before the battle.

[Paul zewike]

Fantastic nonsense. Control is not what you think it is.

[Nastia makarova]

Russia is watching Baku, not all bases

[Alexey G]

If Russia needs it, it will land a landing directly in Baku from the Caspian Sea and, under the cover of the calibers of the fleet, will take control of the capital of Azerbaijan, while someone controls Gyumri, someone will put a PM on the ass ...
And they will build churches right in Baku, so that it can be seen in Turkey ...
Otherwise, St. Sophia Cathedral will become Orthodox again ...

[xomaNN]

Taking into account the real losses of the parties, the Azeri have more chances. Their country has three times the potential human reserve. And they bought a hundred T-90S from the Russian Federation and learned how to use it.
---
But the main discovery is the effectiveness of the UAV! Especially the ammunition loitering in the sky. And all this in dozens of pieces. And AN-2 - a drone - is generally trash

[Vadim237]

And what is a very cheap and effective piece of unmanned aerial vehicle An 2 - for opening enemy air defense it is the most.

[evgen1221]

Today, the weapons themselves dictate the nature of the war - first we minus the air defense, aviation, if any, then we iron everything that moves as much as possible with drones and long-arm systems. Money, again, has a lot of influence if the war is not for complete destruction but for the capture of a separate territory. Plus media support in the right way.

[Pavel57]

Three T-90s can be shown at the parade.

[Vadim237]

It seems to me that all this equipment captured from Azerbaijan will be destroyed by shock drones of Azerbaijan itself in the next couple of days.

[otstoy]

T-90, Abrams, Leopard are bright candy wrappers for losers. In modern, regional warfare, the best tank is the T-55. Syria, Libya, Yemen have shown that the cheapest tank with the cheapest crew is required.

[Victorm]

The tank was hit, what is so surprising about the war? Is he first? How to listen to the press secretary of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, so there are already more than one hundred Azerbaijanis destroyed, but not in one circle .
T-72 Aslan or T-90S, whatever one may say, a tank, and all the same, the same ferrous metal T-72, the Soviet cheaper and simplified mass version of the T-64 / -80.
Apparently, in this sector, the attack drowned, rolled back, the wrecked tank remained in the positions of the Armenians, until the Azerbaijani Armed Forces finally knock them out, they will have many opportunities to pose and use it in Armenian propaganda, which unfolded on this resource.

The further into the forest and the worse the situation will develop for the beloved Russian hanger, the more of this there will be, tales about the fact that they say this is not Azerbaijan, but Turkey, this is not an Azerbaijani soldier, but some mercenaries from Syria, etc. , by this they will try to pull up the same external forces, and at the same time they will prepare an excuse for defeat, they say Khachik is a great warrior (who did not win a single war and lost his statehood), and it was not an Azerbaijani soldier who defeated him, but this host of mercenaries and 80 million. Turkey.

By the way about the mercenaries. How many of them were there 4000 bayonets in the Armenian delirium? And how many losses in manpower at the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are already in the delirium of the Armenian Defense Ministry? ... Well, if you believe the Armenian side, then in theory the question is closed and they have already destroyed all the bearded men behind whom the "cowardly askers" were hiding or another 4000, 6000, 8000 were brought to Azerbaijan?
Gentlemen Herspekty and Armenian propagandists, I strongly apologize for spoiling you raspberries now, but ... there is such a thing show "dozens" of charter, unscheduled passenger flights to the airports of Azerbaijan (Baku, Ganja, Nakhichevan)? And then I keep looking, looking, but I can't find it in any way ...

PS Oh, how Khachik doesn't want to fight in the sense of myself - to come off and do abominations from behind the broad back of Uncle Vanya is always welcome, to shoot the women and children there, removing their scalps, and not hesitating to write memoirs, but as he himself into battle, then alas ...
We can say for sure that these provocations about the Turks and the barmaley have almost disappeared, after all, the press is not engaged everywhere, everyone knows how to use the Internet. I wonder what they will come up with next?

[Was mammoth]

Didn't want to comment. Your centuries-old showdown.

Quote: VictorM

... to do abominations from behind the broad back of Uncle Vanya it's always welcome, shoot the women there and the kids, scalps ....

Are you accusing us of your atrocities? Abomination YOU!

Quote: VictorM

Oh, how Khachik doesn't want to fight laughing laughing laughing

... .
Came across.
"Hundreds of Azerbaijanis have occupied the consulate in Yekaterinburg. The reason is the war in Karabakh"

Not a man without honor and conscience.
Beyond the results of the "blitzkrieg", it is clear that the solution to the Karabakh conflict is moving away. You can't build peace on hate.

[Scorpio05]

Captured?)) Why are you reprinting Armenian bravura reports from Armenian nationalist sites? It is imperative to write with pathos, they say, captured?)) And you can not write just hit, and even from an ATGM?

[Butchcassidy]

Tramps! Or tight-fisted - FIG knows. They do not want to pay for the latest technology - either they win in competitions, or they take them as a trophy. One thing - they don't pay! Where is Putin looking ?! ;)

[Scorpio05]

In the last tank biathlon in Alabino or an art competition, what did you (the Armenians) win, let me ask you? Where were the tank crews (well, the artillerymen too) from Azerbaijan and Armenia in the standings for the last 3 years?
Well, you can't live without traditional Armenian bragging)

[starley]

The military component in this conflict is nothing more than an entourage,
and the main point is that one side crossed the line of what was permitted,
than put itself out of parentheses during further settlement.
It's one thing when two neighbors quarreled and even fought.
A completely different story when one neighbor set mad dogs on another.
Here this scumbag can no longer avoid court and responsibility.

[Nadrub]

Quote: fn34440

And Erdogan is wise.

It’s hard to disagree
Twist your bot to spelling ... otherwise you want to laugh in a serious topic :)

Ten Azerbaijani hackers entered the network, three were electrocuted at once ...

[svoit]

Quote: VictorM

And then I keep looking, looking, but I can't find it in any way ...

Do not waste your time, the special services, even the Turkish ones, have not yet forgotten how to hide their ends in the water.
These flights are not there and will not be

[Victorm]

Quote: Was Mammoth

Didn't want to comment. Your centuries-old showdown.

Quote: VictorM

... to do abominations from behind the broad back of Uncle Vanya it's always welcome, shoot the women there and the kids, scalps ....

Are you accusing us of your atrocities? Abomination YOU!

I have already heard about the fact that the Azerbaijanis themselves staged Khojaly by killing the Azerbaijanis and the Meskhetian Turks ... Armenian agitprop is not distinguished by its variety. They will judge you for this, your Serzhik and company, and Pashinyan will be there next to him in the dock for shelling our villages and killing civilians.

And about Yekaterinburg - rejoice that the coronavirus and the land border of the Russian Federation with Azerbaijan are closed and flights have been canceled until today, otherwise an additional 200-300 thousand would have returned to Azerbaijan. men. You have caused so much grief and pain, believing that you will be eternally unpunished, you have been exiled so much, you have demonstrated your untouchability and influence so much, you have poured so many lies on our people that now EVERY Azerbaijanian prays to the Lord God, the Almighty, only about one thing - SHOULD BE SLEEPED.
I have a military registration and enlistment office next to my house, every day they cannot get my home because of the crowds of people.

Nobody wants to destroy your people, but you, like the Germans after the Second World War, need to be cured first on the battlefield, and then also on an outpatient basis, so that this nationalistic infection does not visit you anymore. Unlike the Ottoman Turks, we are tolerant, we had thousands of Orthodox churches of the Albanian Orthodox Church and synagogues, we accepted Nekrasov Cossacks and Old Believers, no one’s rights were ever violated, all the troubles began as you started to flee to Azerbaijan in general, we accepted your shrines, they accepted you, they accepted you, and when Russia resettled which did not have enough Cossacks and their villages. As soon as you emerged from Ottoman Turkey, the cheese boron immediately began, and when the Russian Empire also seized the northern lands and made a bet on you, you generally got loose. "You" is not about the entire Armenian people, but about such thugs like you, you need to be stopped from the Armenian people, through amputation of heads, our army is now doing this, it's a pity that children of 2000-2001 are dying along the way, regardless of nationality , but there is no way out, you need to put an end to this issue once and for all, and then solve the problem in general.

You, Armenians, are not our biggest problem and the de-occupation of Karabakh is not our biggest task, but even this shows your arrogance and self-conceit.

We have nationalism, and the Russians, and other peoples, but in your case we are talking about Nazism. You need to defeat Nazism in you, and everything else is incidental tasks and they are not as important as this. You are pouring a lot of lies and now, hoping to win over to your side, or more precisely to provoke Russia, I hope this will not succeed, from this there will only be troubles, and first of all for Russia itself.
Many of my fellow countrymen believe that Russia supports you because they say you are Christians, this is a mistake, you are not Orthodox, and it is because of you that Russia essentially liquidated the ancient Albanian Orthodox Church, fought with Orthodox Georgians ... I hope Russia will come to its senses someday, if only it was not too late for Russia itself, for you are traitors, carriers of treason while you are sick of Nazism.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: VictorM

You Armenians ....

"If God did not give the mind ...".
I, that RUSSIAN, "whom you accused of complicity in crimes, which both Armenians and Azerbaijanis have done for hundreds of years. Your" blitzkrieg "has added atrocities to this piggy bank.
Without respect!

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: VictorM

an additional 200-300 thousand would have already returned to Azerbaijan. men

What for? It is clear that putting them under arms will not be enough time or money.

[Victorm]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Quote: VictorM

an additional 200-300 thousand would have already returned to Azerbaijan. men

What for? It is clear that putting them under arms will not be enough time or money.

1. In addition to the fact that the mob.resource makes up for losses in combat units, new units are also deployed at the expense of it.
2. There is enough time, money is also available, weapons and equipment are also in reserve, in addition, they are produced by their own enterprises of the defense industry. Moreover, in this case, Azerbaijan will need light infantry and mountain rifle units, for which all weapons are produced, with the exception of MANPADS and ATGMs.
3. Expand, prepare and carry out the coordination in the mountainous areas in the north and south, at the same time covering the border in these directions.

The latter is very important. Let me explain.
In the world, I know only one people who can compete with the Jews, and do not think that they are Armenians, they are just naive and cheated children in front of Jews and ... FARS (Persians). Just the other day, in the north of Iran, which is the southern part of Azerbaijan, and a large one, a column with equipment from Russia intended for Armenia was burned. Judging by the chassis, these were just electronic warfare systems and inaccurately, but I suppose also the chassis of the MLRS Tornado, and in both cases there were exactly the chassis and auxiliary units, but without the main superstructures, apparently Russia intended to transfer them or airlifted them, did not trust its partner in Syria. In addition to the fact that the Azerbaijani population blocked the road and burned some of the cars, there were also performances in Tabriz, once the capital of the united Azerbaijani state. Those who gathered chanted not only "Karabakh is ours!", "Karabakh is Azerbaijan", but also the phrase "Russian, FARS (Persian) and Armenian are enemies of Azerbaijan!" If the Iranian authorities generally do not give a damn about the Russians and Armenians, the farces are not so simple. A rebellion has been brewing for a long time in the southern regions of Azerbaijan, and the Iranian authorities were even forced to change its administrative structure.
As a result, today through the mouth of the head of the Iranian Presidential Administration Mahmoud Vaezi sounded the following, I do not remember in this or another topic I have already quoted: "Iran stands in defense of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, and ending the Armenian occupation will guarantee stability in the region"And Iran has officially stated that it will not allow, at least by dry land, military cargo to Armenia from now on.

I repeat, there is only one nation in the world that can compete with the Jews, and these are farces. Farces deprived Russia of the opportunity to support Armenia. Farces love to do this and manipulate Russia and other countries even more. On the surface, everything seems to be simple - the Iranian authorities, fearing internal problems, they say, were forced to block transit through their territory. In reality, they have driven Russia into a corner.
Without Russian support, Armenia will not hold out for a long time; it is possible to go broke by airplanes. Moreover, it was already before the start of the Armenian provocations, sorry if he made an opening for some heralds about Turkish incitement - Russia delivered about 1400 tons of military cargo to Armenia by air, after which it began.
Deprived of support, Armenia will not last long in Karabakh; it will either have to withdraw its troops or start hostilities from its territory. In turn, deprived of the opportunity to support its parasite ally, Russia will have nothing to do but try to stop Azerbaijan up to direct military aggression under any pretext, and it will most likely be the unleashing of direct hostilities by Armenia from its territory, it is ALREADY trying to provoke Azerbaijan by striking artillery from its own territory, and not from the territory of the occupied regions of Azerbaijan, and strikes at settlements and residential areas where there are no military installations.

Farces would not be against if Russia repeated something like the Georgian scenario and, in fact, today's, mind you, who are a few days late in their statements, are pushing Russia to this. Azerbaijani Turks make up slightly less than half of the population of Iran, and together with other Turkic-speaking peoples - Turkmen and Uzbeks, almost half. Persia, known to you from textbooks, at one time ceased to exist, what is the Islamic Republic of Iran, it is an Azerbaijani state before the beginning of the last century. The Azerbaijani Qajar dynasty first united under its rule all the Azerbaijani lands, and then all those included in the zone of influence of Persia. At the beginning of the last century, a coup took place as a result of which farces came to power. But there was one problem, firstly, many state officials remained Azerbaijanis, and secondly, almost all of the army, these are Azerbaijanis, in the future, after the Islamic revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini, not from a good life, will create the IRGC - the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, because he could not count on loyalty and devotion to the army, in the officer corps of which, despite the purges under the Shah Pahlavi, Azerbaijanis still traditionally predominated, who, although pious, are not radical and not orthodox, and hate farces. The mood in the southern part of Azerbaijan is now being used by the United States to destabilize Iran; under the auspices of the CIA, a kind of government of southern Azerbaijan is located in Turkey.
The mood in the southern part of Azerbaijan, plus the growing state in the north of Azerbaijan, and even in the event of a victory and decision of Karabakh, is not the most desirable by the Iranian authorities. If we sum up the population of the northern and southern parts of Azerbaijan, then the number of Azerbaijanis exceeds the farces and farso-speaking in the region.

So it would be useful to form new units, prepare them for further battles in the mountainous terrain of Karabakh and at the same time cover the borders, this would preserve peace with neighbors and keep the countries from adventures.

[Livonetc]

Quote: Albay

Hi Gennady!
And what was wrong with the Azerbaijani army in 16? which everyone is silent. Now, yesterday they have already taken Talish, Madagiz in the north, strategic heights. In the South yesterday 2 villages were taken, and today they liberated the city of Dzhabrail and the entire Dzhebrail region.
Why not combat-ready?
What are the criteria for judging?
Here are the stupid articles Pashinyan said, someone farted, and for two days no one writes anything about how the Azerbaijani army is advancing.

Alibek, Hello!

Yes, at the moment, the success of the Azerbaijani army's operation is objectively obvious ..
Please clarify.
What really happened in Ganja?
Was there a missile strike in reality and how serious are the consequences.
Thank you in advance.

[Boris63]

This war ... is not the essence of who will win. Russia, from any outcome of this confrontation, will not ah. Is it all the same who will "tumble down" in the Russian Federation, Armenians or Azerbaijanis ... Some will run away from "Baku", others so as not to get up under arms again.