Is there social justice in Russia?

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Is there social justice in Russia?

Social justice implies fair relations between citizens and society, the existence of equal opportunities for everyone and is measured by the criteria for the distribution of welfare, defined as the provision of citizens, a social group and an individual with material, financial, social and spiritual benefits.

The Russian person has a value base - justice, therefore, he is historically especially sensitive to issues of social injustice and does not accept inequality and private property, leading to inequality of people. In Russian self-awareness, wealth is a sin, capital destroys the soul, engenders injustice and humiliates another person. For him, social justice, equal rights for all and the need for a strong state that takes care of its citizens are important first of all.



Based on the traditional values ​​and mentality of the Russian people, its national idea is to build a society of social justice, a strong and economically prosperous state (civilization) that provides its citizens with a decent life and the realization of their civic interests.

First of all, property stratification leads to social injustice and social inequality, especially if it was achieved dishonestly and its legitimacy is not recognized by the majority of the population. Let's see what social foundations of society are being implemented in today's Russian state.

Property stratification in Russia


The level of well-being of the population is determined by the ability of the state's economy to provide it. In terms of gross domestic product, Russia is the sixth economy in the world, and the welfare of society should have been at a fairly high level. But GDP characterizes only the volume of the national product produced and does not reveal how effectively it is used in the interests of the whole society and every citizen.

With the existing capitalist mode of production in Russia and the presence of private ownership of the means of production, prerequisites are created for the redistribution of part of the income from the produced product in the interests of these owners through the receipt of profit (dividends) from property ownership, which, naturally, provokes property stratification and social inequality in society.

As a result of the collapse of the Soviet system, social inequality in the country has sharply increased, today the population of Russia is divided into three unequal groups: rich owners and officials, a narrow stratum of the middle class and the vast majority of the population, living mainly on a fairly modest salary.

Property stratification leading to social inequality is mainly due to society's non-recognition of the legitimacy of the predatory privatization of the 90s, which formed a class of large owners, unreasonably high incomes of top and middle-level officials and heads of state corporations, as well as servants serving them, and ubiquitous corruption with kickbacks for bureaucratic services ...

All this leads to the fact that the fairly high national income of the state obtained by the labor of the whole society is redistributed and partially appropriated by a handful of the ruling class and the bureaucracy serving them. Moreover, they and their families defiantly flaunt this and show their superiority over the rest of the population. Such unjust social inequality is still causing deep discontent in society, and at the slightest upheaval it can provoke a social explosion.

For the stability of the state and society, it is generally accepted that the incomes of the richest 10% of the population in the country should not exceed the incomes of the poorest 10% by more than 10 times. According to the UN, this coefficient in Russia is 11,0, Italy is 11,6, the United States is 15,9 and the United Kingdom is 13,8, that is, in terms of property stratification, Russia is at the level of the richest countries in the world.

Even more telling is the World Inequality Report, which says that 45,5% of Russia's national income belongs to the richest 10% of the population. This is confirmed by Rosstat, according to its information, the situation is somewhat different, but also impressive: 20% of the richest own 47% of the national income. And such an expert on the fortunes of the richest people in the world, like Forbes magazine, cites information that there are 77 billionaires in Russia with a combined fortune of $ 283 billion. What kind of social justice can we talk about with such an impact on the economy of private capital?

Today, the most informative indicator of social inequality is the Gini index. It most accurately shows how evenly income is distributed among the citizens of the country.

After the collapse of the Union, Russia became one of the states with the highest social inequality. The Gini index, which in Soviet times was at the level of a few percent of European countries, rose to 1995 by 38,7, and is now 41,1. Of the leading countries of the world, only China (46,9) and Israel (42,8) is ahead of Russia in terms of social inequality, the rest, the United States (37,7), Germany (29,0), France (32,7), Japan (32,1), Sweden (25,0), Great Britain (36,0) and Belarus (29,7), it is significantly lower.

How Russian officials live


The majority of the population is outraged not so much by the high salaries and incomes of the bureaucracy as by the undeservedness and illegitimacy of receiving them. In this regard, although it is not good to look into someone else's pocket, one can compare the level of income of the heads of the regions with the average income of the population of these regions. For example, the official annual income of the head of the Moscow region is 68,9 million rubles, which is 120,9 times higher than the income of residents of the Moscow region, the income of the head of the Orenburg region is 690 times higher, the head of the Republic of Mari El - 159,2 times. It is difficult to explain why the incomes of the heads of regions can be hundreds of times higher than the incomes of their residents, especially since these incomes practically do not depend on the efficiency of their work.

Even more egregious is the situation with the income of the heads of state corporations, including such well-known ones as Rosneft and Gazprom, which do not restrain themselves in their income at all. For example, the monthly income of the head of Rosneft Sechin is up to 20 million rubles, or 240 million rubles a year, the income of the head of Gazprom Miller is of the same order. And this is with an average salary in the country of 48,3 thousand rubles, and for a significant part of the population it is even more modest and may be less than 20 thousand rubles.

In accordance with the legislation, the board of directors, which includes representatives of the owners, is in charge of the income of state corporations and the remuneration of their top managers. It should be noted that the Russian state owns only 50% of the share capital of Rosneft and Gazprom, the rest of the shares have long been sold into private ownership, and the state cannot always influence decisions. In this regard, part of the profits of corporations often goes to the payment of multi-million dollar bonuses to management and government officials who are part of their management structures; moreover, government representatives often defend not the government, but the corporate interests of companies. The management system, built back in the 90s, allows the use of state property as a tool for the legal redistribution of national income in favor of those in power.

How social inequality is justified


The justifications of the apologists of such a social hierarchy are interesting, for example, political analyst Alexander Zapolskikh, provesthat due to the quality leadership of the heads of state corporations, they mainly fill the budget and bring trillions of rubles to the state, that Sechin manages a team of 249 thousand people, and that Rosneft pays more than 4 trillion in taxes to the budget in just one year. rubles. Indeed, this is so, state corporations are the main taxpayers, but how much their heads influence this is a big question.

Zapolskikh emphasizes that the net profit, for example, of Rosneft, is 649 billion rubles, of which 270 billion is spent on dividends. Further it is concluded that “the above 270 billion of dividends from the annual profit will also go to the budget by 99%,” which is not true, since the state's share in the share capital of Rosneft is 50% and the state will receive only half of the dividends to the budget - 135 billion rubles, and the other half will go into private hands.

He also proves that the heads of state corporations personally pay high taxes to the budget, which is also not true. First, they do not pay taxes on dividends, since the current laws exempt them from such an obligation, allowing them to take dividends offshore and evade taxation. This year alone, the law on the payment of 15% of taxes on dividends was finally adopted, but it comes into force on January 1, 2021. Second, corporate taxes are mainly rents on minerals and income from the labor of hundreds of thousands of people who produce gas and oil, and not so much the personal contribution of their leaders. So the justifications of the apologists of the current system of social hierarchy raise great doubts about their objectivity.

In this regard, it is worth comparing the socio-economic policy pursued in the former republics of the Soviet Union - Russia and Belarus. The Belarusian leadership is pursuing a policy aimed at limiting the capital of private individuals and a relatively even distribution of state revenues among its citizens. Such actions lead to a lower stratification of society than in Russia. There are no billionaires in Belarus and only 1,4% of the population owns assets over 100 thousand dollars. There are millionaires, but there are only 0,1% of the total population. Therefore, Belarus belongs to the countries with the lowest property stratification, where the principles of social justice are generally observed. For all the political and economic problems of Belarus, Russia has a lot to learn from it.
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  1. +49
    7 October 2020 15: 04
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    Of course not ... and the further Putin rules, the less social justice.
    1. +13
      7 October 2020 15: 12
      It looks like Putin gave you a minus wassat
      1. +26
        7 October 2020 15: 48
        Yes, he is not alone here, but it seems that he is being delayed with the whole Cabinet .. wink Apparently on the occasion of their birthday they will curse minus .. what
      2. +8
        7 October 2020 22: 07
        Quote: Varyag71
        It looks like Putin gave you a minus

        this one can laughing only he is very busy, not everything has been robbed belay
        1. -10
          8 October 2020 19: 12
          Quote: Malyuta
          Quote: Varyag71
          It looks like Putin gave you a minus

          this one can laughing only he is very busy, not everything has been robbed belay

          The question is about nothing ... "Is there social justice in Russia?" A counter question, when was this social justice in general, and not only in Russia, the USSR? The answer is, there was neither when, nor where, nor when ... The USSR and RUSSIA are no exception ... Chattering about nothing ... Rubbing with tongues and declining everyone and everything ... I remember the idlers of the liberated Komsomol secretaries, fattening and parasitizing at work collectives. Traders, there were many opportunists in Kom. party .. Even to remember this social justice is disgusting .. In modern Russia, too, not sugar .. In principle, as in the United States .. In the World there is only one principle - either row tirelessly with oars, or go to the bottom.
    2. +49
      7 October 2020 15: 17
      It’s not Putin that matters, but capitalism .. Putin is just a talking head, judging by the last few years, nothing is decisive at all .. For no one is paying attention to his formidable instructions and plans. There will be no Putin - they will put another zits-chairman, exactly the same worthless .. Here you need to look at the root, change the system, and not the furniture in the institution ..
      1. +34
        7 October 2020 15: 20
        Quote: paul3390
        It's not about Putin, it's about capitalism

        I agree, but it was in Putin's power to turn on social rails and choose with the people he or the oligarchs, the choice was not in favor of the people.
        1. +42
          7 October 2020 15: 23
          You know - the further, the more I doubt that Putin initially could have solved anything at all .. It seems that this is just a very successful PR project to create an image of a wise, almighty and kind king. To which many fell for .. But in reality - a vacuum, a Torricellian emptiness ..
          1. +23
            7 October 2020 15: 24
            Quote: paul3390
            You know - the further, the more I doubt that Putin initially could have solved anything at all .. It seems that this is just a very successful PR project to create an image of a wise, almighty and kind king. To which many fell for .. But in reality - a vacuum, a Torricellian emptiness ..

            I am also, every year more and more convinced of this .. hi
          2. +20
            7 October 2020 15: 32
            Initially, Putin could have solved something ...
            ... We live in a bourgeois-democratic state, where, like, democratic elections, but the bourgeoisie really rules. GDP is simply a protege of certain financial circles, nothing more. And acts in their interests and for their interests.
            1. +14
              7 October 2020 15: 34
              “Participation in the bourgeois parliament (which never solves the most serious issues in bourgeois democracy: they are decided by the stock exchange, banks) is barred from the working masses by thousands of enclosures, and the workers perfectly know and feel, see and feel that the bourgeois parliament is a foreign institution, an instrument of oppression of the proletarians by the bourgeoisie , an institution of a hostile class, an exploiting class "
            2. +15
              7 October 2020 22: 04
              Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
              We live in a bourgeois democratic state

              Bourgeois-oligarchic. The bourgeois democratic system in some European countries, but not here.
          3. +9
            7 October 2020 16: 20
            Quote: paul3390
            the further, the more I doubt that Putin initially could solve at least something ..

            In vain. With the support of the people that he had, it was possible to decide whatever you wanted.
            1. +18
              7 October 2020 16: 38
              Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
              With the support of the people that he had, it was possible to decide whatever you wanted.

              So he decided ... what he wanted ...
              1. +4
                7 October 2020 16: 43
                Quote: mat-vey
                So he decided ... what he wanted ...

                Exactly
            2. +10
              7 October 2020 22: 04
              Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
              you could decide whatever you want.

              It was possible, but did not want to decide. As a result, time is lost forever.
              1. +1
                7 October 2020 22: 44
                Quote: Vladimir B.
                irretrievably

                Time always runs out forever. I have to state this, although the time machine is one of my favorite dreams.
                1. +1
                  11 October 2020 23: 42
                  Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Quote: Vladimir B.
                  irretrievably

                  Time always runs out forever. I have to state this, although the time machine is one of my favorite dreams.

                  hi Has not come yet her time, unfortunately.
          4. +1
            12 October 2020 12: 26
            Herr Putin in general is squeezed by the system, everything is private and a bunch of saboteurs inside not only the country but also the government. Who should he do something with? Step to the right - the money bags will be thrown off, step to the left - the bags will be dumped and the rabble will hang. So he sits quietly, trying to play with both that and that, but it is much easier to please the population and it is much easier for a bunch of moneybags. In fact, in the country at the wrong time we call stagnation.
      2. +28
        7 October 2020 15: 22
        There is no justice, even a wolf howl ... And the people still believe in the good king and evil boyars)))
        1. -6
          7 October 2020 15: 50
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          There is no justice, even a wolf howl ... And the people still believe in the good king and evil boyars)))

          What is so gloomy?. Knowledge gives both justice and methods of solution. Only can we use ... ????
          1. +12
            7 October 2020 22: 06
            Quote: apro
            only can we use ... ????

            We can, but officials do not allow us to use it. Before you can achieve justice, you will have to go through many "circles of hell".
            1. -4
              8 October 2020 01: 09
              Quote: Vladimir B.
              We can, but officials do not allow us to use it.

              And for what reasons? We do not have the opportunity to organize? Clearly formulate our interests? Do not want to defend our interests? Officials are an instrument of the state, and the state is the spokesman for interests who could achieve the dominance of their interests ...
        2. +13
          7 October 2020 22: 05
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          And the people believe everything

          Not the people believe, but the people make to believe in the "good tsar and bad boyars" by influencing them through various kinds of media and PR actions called press conferences.
          1. +16
            7 October 2020 22: 19
            Quote: Vladimir B.
            It is not the people who believe, but the people who are forced to believe in the "good tsar and bad boyars" by influencing them through various media and PR actions called press conferences.

            Comrade! You are 100% right !!! Exactly. They came up with a "mask" at the "request" of the population (so as not to drink, not smoke, was a KGBist, tongue hung, young and strong), blinded the "mask" with the necessary biography, promoted in a paper box and voila, a new scribe in the arena.
            20 years lost for the country are exactly those 20 years that were allocated for plundering the country under the sweet broadcasting promises of scrap-zombie media.
            The marked man prepared the ground, the ebn acted as a "Trojan horse", and the scar is completing what he began with his spiritual mentors.
        3. -7
          8 October 2020 12: 26
          What kind of people is this and the power - even if you change the ranks, at least not bypass, in the end, the same will come and everyone will individually pursue their interests and no matter what beautiful and convincing soap they pour into your ears and hang noodles, your shirt will always be closer to your body ...
          1. +1
            12 October 2020 12: 29
            Here I agree with you - they were extremely lucky with the population, too submissive and inert, although they themselves are trying to make it this way for a very long time.
      3. +12
        7 October 2020 22: 13
        Quote: paul3390
        It’s not Putin that matters, but capitalism .. Putin is just a talking head, judging by the last few years, nothing is decisive at all .. For no one is paying attention to his formidable instructions and plans.

        Comrade, you are right about capitalism.
        but not quite the head club. Do you have a firm belief that his "pointers" are intended for anyone at all, and are not a lulling background for the plebs?
        I think that not everyone has yet understood the degree of cynicism and treachery of people who have emerged to the top of power in our country.
      4. AUL
        +1
        8 October 2020 14: 35
        Quote: paul3390
        It's not about Putin, it's about capitalism ..

        But where did you get the idea that we have capitalism? What is going on here is called differently (but obscenely). And the point is just those who created and maintains this situation!
      5. -9
        9 October 2020 06: 50
        I read the comments on this article and the impression is that I am on the observer som ya, or the correspondent som ya .. Completely people who hate Russia. Not a single comment trying to figure out the problem .. Frenzied, dull hatred in all comments ... Svido warriors of sofa troops from the kryzhopels and thorns have saddled the Military Review! Something like this ! Shanovna peepers, that chitochi!
    3. +16
      7 October 2020 15: 22
      But what, before Putin or when Medvedev, who portrayed the president, was somehow smoother?
      no, equality disappeared when Khrushchev began to form privileged castes in society
      Collapse, perestroika and Putin only reinforced and deepened inequality.
      And social justice depends on beliefs and propaganda.
      150 years ago, there were many serfs who were sure that the difference between a master and a serf was just. Now they are trying to drive us into the same stall so that a part of society believes that others should have more rights. And it begins unobtrusively already in schools to the cynical songs "you are incredible and anything is possible."
    4. +3
      7 October 2020 15: 22
      Yes, it is not the essence of who rules, the essence is in the system. Let's vote for Platoshkin, he will start building socialism, no. Will be, everything is the same ...
      1. -10
        7 October 2020 16: 12
        PLUToshkin project of the Kremlin!
        1. +1
          7 October 2020 22: 07
          Quote: stas
          PLUToshkin project of the Kremlin!

          good Comrade, I agree with you 100% hi drinks
      2. +6
        7 October 2020 22: 07
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        Let's say we vote for Platoshkin, he will start building socialism, no.

        One should vote not for Platoshkin with his "new socialism", even he does not understand, but for the time-tested real communists from the RKWP. Then the restoration of Soviet power will begin.
        1. 0
          7 October 2020 22: 56
          Quote: Vladimir B.
          for the time-tested real communists from the RKWP

          Wow modern communists were thrown around. How many parties and parties today dismembered so-and-not sickly, if put together, the communist movement? Is the poor voter confused enough with communist views?
          1. 0
            8 October 2020 12: 29
            There are no communists for a long time - only pseudo-communists and their imitators remained.
            1. +1
              8 October 2020 15: 04
              Quote: Vadim237
              Communists are long gone

              Are you talking about the elected or about the voters?
          2. +4
            8 October 2020 14: 10
            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            How many parties and parties today dismembered so-and-not sickly, if put together, the communist movement?

            A lot. A lot. Moreover, some parties and parties simply use the name communist, but they are not even close.
            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            Is the poor voter confused enough with communist views?

            I cannot answer you this question. I do not know. Probably yes, confused. The whole problem, I think, is that no work is being done to bring our programs to the people. Many games are represented by regular sites, about which (sites) no one knows.
    5. 0
      7 October 2020 15: 39
      By the way, today is the "good tsar" anniversary. Congratulations, do not forget)))
      1. +10
        7 October 2020 15: 44
        I would be kind - I would celebrate the anniversary by distributing nishtyaks to the people and a dozen stealing boyars on stakes in the middle of Red Square ..
        1. +4
          7 October 2020 17: 06
          Quote: paul3390
          I would be kind - I would celebrate the anniversary by distributing nishtyaks to the people and a dozen stealing boyars on stakes in the middle of Red Square ..

          Why are you so angry ?! am
          Enough of the guillotine ... on stakes in the middle of Red Square - it's cruel !!! This is half a day of at least torment ... crying And the West will start howling about the observance of the "rights of the stealing boyars" ... and the guillotine - raaaz !!! and all good We still live in the 21st century !!! laughing We must do everything in a civilized manner !!! bully hi
        2. +1
          7 October 2020 18: 06
          and a volley from Calibers was not a bad fireworks display for him at the beginning of the operation in Syria
    6. 0
      7 October 2020 16: 12
      And here is Putin?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that was established in Russia and in the world and there is no social justice anywhere, but where it was, it was ruthlessly destroyed
      1. +15
        7 October 2020 16: 56
        Yes, it has nothing to do with it. Is always what He was also asked and offered to change social and property relations. LOW! Here is the answer.
    7. -7
      7 October 2020 16: 13
      And then what will we sit on the couch? Why are these statements if there is no sense?
    8. +21
      7 October 2020 16: 15
      This is how V.V. Mayakovsky:

      Comrades!
      What is this?
      I used to eat one mouth, but now they eat
      company?

      The republic turned out to be the same king, yes
      only one hundredth.

      Why are you boiling?
      We promised and we share equally:
      one a donut, the other a donut hole.
      This is a democratic republic.
    9. +4
      7 October 2020 17: 04
      Is there social justice in Russia?

      Yes, but to feel it you need to become an official ..
      1. +1
        7 October 2020 18: 40
        Quote: Doccor18
        Yes, but to feel it you need to become an official..
        - Wellcome !!!!!!
        4 vacancies - including the chief architect of the area !!!
        vacancies have been hanging for 2 years - no for some reason those who want to become an official with a salary of 16 thousand ..........
    10. -4
      7 October 2020 18: 58
      "Carthage must be destroyed." laughing Under Yeltsin, this very joint venture was unmeasured. GDP has ruled for so long, and it is still only decreasing. Judging by the liberal characteristics, he should have destroyed this mythical joint venture 15 years ago. laughing
      1. +10
        7 October 2020 22: 08
        Quote: Captive
        he should have destroyed this mythical joint venture 15 years ago.

        He should have been developing social policy for 20 years, and not marking time with it in the same place.
        1. -5
          8 October 2020 12: 32
          But he did not develop it - from 5 to 7 trillion rubles from the budget are spent on social expenditures every year - but how these funds are operated locally in 85 constituent entities is another question.
    11. +3
      8 October 2020 00: 55
      10% of the richest people disagree with you or the author of the article. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of people, falling from the category of beggars into the category of 10%, instantly forget about justice and so on.
    12. -1
      8 October 2020 20: 41
      An interesting article by Yuri Mikhailovich. Only neither in Russia nor anywhere else in the world there has NEVER been justice. In Russia for 74 years there was a VISIBILITY of justice. Although if we compare today and then, then there was more justice in those 74 years ...
    13. 0
      18 October 2020 20: 04
      There is no social justice as our helmsman said. There is only indulgence in the aligarhat .. To say no, a weakly characteristic chtol cannot
  2. +11
    7 October 2020 15: 10
    Loud headline. And the question is purely rhetorical in a philosophical sense:
    Is there justice IN GENERAL.
    1. +18
      7 October 2020 15: 31
      Perhaps we have an economic stratification of the population has reached a truly unprecedented level.
      In fact, 80-87% of the country's wealth is owned by a few people.

      In terms of social injustice,
      Latin America (70 years of the last century), Africa of the times of the man-eating dictator are far behind.

      Our country takes the infamous first place in these parameters.

      Apartments for RUR yards, pillows for RUR 2, yachts for $ 000 for mistresses - this is what the sovereigns are pampered with by banks with 000% of state capital, as well as the heads of state corporations.

      For the bourgeoisie who are now no longer popular (thanks to Bene Yeltsin), the bowels of the earth are still more miraculous.

      The depraved, jaded children of this caste surpassed even the Nazis in their misanthropic statements.
      1. +8
        7 October 2020 17: 27
        Fairness ...
        The choice of the form of justice, since the 90s, is no longer for the working people and, as practice shows, in this historical era, the issue of justice in the form we understand is not solvable. Yesterday, on one of the topics, I mentioned, it seems, 11 prerequisites, which together can lead, if not to revolution, then to rebellion for sure. For, put together, they paint an image of such a blatant injustice, which is understandable to everyone and gets him from one angle or another.

        As a digression, I will note that I was immediately successfully hated. In all seriousness. I read it, marveled at the naivete of the haters and did not answer. After all, the behavior of colleagues to whom I am disgusted fits into the saying "you remember the devil (revolution), and he (she) is right there." Therefore, one must shout "Hurray! .. Hurray! ..", meaning "Holy! Holy!" or "mind me! mind you!" and to wave two fingers off the possibility of rebellion I have outlined.
        In a word, superstition.
        Only from "hurray" in the mouth will not become sweeter, halva will not fly into the mouth. True, it can be assumed that the bastard of halva, shouting "hurray" especially loudly - either by conviction or by position - still got into the mouth. But even if all the people shout "Uraaaa!", They will soon fall silent in disappointment, for they will not find halva falling from the sky. On the contrary! Going out to the Kremlin balcony and looking down, the authorities will say: "They are shouting somehow too loudly ... Consider, they have shouted, raise taxes, or else they won't let you sleep ..." He will say and yawn loudly.
        I would like to ask and ask: what are you playing, screamers? ))

        So that's it. Considering that I am calling for a revolution, my fellow screamers hated me, and I, I repeat, was surprised. But I can imagine how surprised and maybe laughed at the people in the Presidential Administration, who, according to their duty, are supposed to skim through the articles and comments of the VO ...
        Indeed, in their view, the people are not an actor of history. The people can bear any sedition, draw some conclusions of their own, paint 11 reasons as prerequisites for a possible rebellion, but in the end, as the Presidential Administration believes, the people are like a drawbar, where they were turned by propaganda, money, threats, deprivation of work, he went out to that square. In the view of the authorities, the people are a tool, they are also a consumable in inter-clan wars for fat chunks of budget money. It can be taken out into the streets, useful by this, concerned with the central government, and force it to give state investment not to a representative of the ruling clan, but to some other. And then the useful concern will disappear. But even our idea of ​​ourselves as a tool in the inter-clan oligarchic chaos is self-delusion.

        Because our time is up. And even in matters of voting.
        When making certain government decisions, we are generally not taken into account.
        The authorities and the oligarchs of our, and sometimes completely foreign origin, resolve issues of justice or lack thereof among themselves, at their top, through agreements. Nobody will allow us to solve the issue of justice in this way. We have no political instrument. Except for local riots. The riot in Khabarovsk, the current one - in Vladivostok. But will true popular leaders emerge? Or hasn't the new time come yet?
      2. -5
        8 October 2020 12: 38
        "In fact, 80-87% of the country's wealth is owned by a few people." This is a complete lie. What is "The wealth of the country" is money, minerals, land, cars, maybe architectural monuments, natural resources, infrastructure.
      3. +3
        8 October 2020 13: 20
        Quote: Comrade Kim
        (thanks to Bene Yeltsin

        You have gone too far for this character for 20 years, although some of the current Pechenegs still manage to blame)))
    2. 0
      7 October 2020 16: 28
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Is there justice GENERAL

      The universe tends to increase entropy (a measure of "disorder"). However, we have been fighting this throughout our history, and the statement that there are no successes here will be untrue.
      So it is with injustice - efforts in this direction reduce the value of this value. Lack of effort - contributes to its growth.
      1. +4
        7 October 2020 17: 20
        We have social justice, but it is that we all have an equal right to two square meters crying or a columbar box. recourse
      2. -2
        8 October 2020 08: 41
        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
        The universe tends to increase entropy (a measure of "disorder").

        The entropy of the Universe is based on the closedness of the system and its "boundary", which is very similar to the model of the Earth on three elephants. It's just that science today has no other evidence. The speed of light is constant and everyone who thinks otherwise is on the fire. Nature strives for balance, a person violates this balance so that only he can live curly. Within the human species, there is the same struggle and deliberate creation of chaos in order to catch your profit. I agree about labor, a pond and fish, the main thing is not to whimper so much that it will become painfully difficult to fish in this troubled water.
        1. -1
          8 October 2020 15: 35
          Quote: g1washntwn
          It's just that science today has no other evidence.

          To "disprove" something based on "just yet absent evidence" is as convenient as it is also pointless.
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            9 October 2020 06: 51
            Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
            To "disprove" something based on "just yet absent evidence" is as convenient as it is also pointless.

            As well as to prove.
            ... especially with the minuses in the rating, this only flatters the pride of the "minusers", facts remain facts, and theories remain assumptions.
            1. -1
              9 October 2020 15: 08
              Quote: g1washntwn
              As well as to prove.

              This is because the evidence is quite objective. Within the existing paradigm, of course.

              Quote: g1washntwn
              ... especially the minuses in the rating,

              Ok, let's experiment. Right now I put you a minus. Describe your feelings.
    3. +6
      7 October 2020 22: 09
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Is there justice IN GENERAL.

      There is. But it is very difficult to find it.
      1. +2
        8 October 2020 08: 46
        Quote: Vladimir B.
        Is there justice IN GENERAL. There is. But it is very difficult to find it.

        Pessimists disagree with you. Justice - there is an "event horizon" standing on which there is light on one side, and on the other - a black hole, in a simple way, full of smile
  3. +21
    7 October 2020 15: 11
    No, and cannot be in principle. For capitalism, and it has completely different values ​​and goals. If you want social justice, you have only one option, to return socialism and Soviet power. And under the bourgeoisie - you will be robbed and ripped off ALWAYS.
    1. +11
      7 October 2020 15: 17
      Quote: paul3390
      No and cannot be in principle

      1. +10
        7 October 2020 15: 40
        Social justice ..
        1. -4
          8 October 2020 12: 40
          Guys who steal cars and take them apart for parts have dirty hands, but the money is definitely not clean.
          1. +2
            8 October 2020 12: 41
            Does personal experience suggest? wink
      2. +2
        8 October 2020 09: 00
        Look at the faces of those who minus
        1. 0
          8 October 2020 14: 25
          Quote: Varyag71
          Look at faces
          Those who are at the table are clearly not attending VO, and those with sticks are easy! what
    2. 0
      7 October 2020 15: 21
      Well, if we consider as an option:
      Socialism with the presence of private property.
      This is an option for the development of the People's Republic of China.

      Soviet power, in the form it was under the USSR, collapsed, proving its incapacity.
      You need to sculpt something new.
      How to gradually modify what we have.
      At the same time, not forgetting and not throwing into the landfill what was achieved under Soviet rule.

      Let the path of revolutions remain in the past.
      Our revolution was really great.

      We need to appreciate what we have now and put it in order.
      Stop looking longingly at what may be on the horizon.
      We must live here now.
      hi
      1. +13
        7 October 2020 15: 28
        The Soviet power collapsed under the LATE USSR .. When outspoken traitors and revisionists came to power with the connivance of the people .. You need to look back at the Stalinist USSR, and not at Gorbachev's, not be remembered by nightfall ..

        As a rule, it can be admitted that as long as the Bolsheviks maintain contact with the broad masses of the people, they will be invincible.On the contrary, should the Bolsheviks break away from the masses and lose contact with them, they should cover themselves with bureaucratic rust so that they lose all strength and become an empty shell.
        I.V. Stalin. Closing remarks at the Plenum of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on March 5, 1937

        “The collapse of socialism in some countries does not mean the death of socialism as a science, but the defeat of opportunism, which led to the degeneration of socialism.
        Due to the fault of the opportunists, socialism is temporarily experiencing difficult ups and downs, but due to its scientific nature and truthfulness, it will certainly be revived.
        and will achieve the final victory "
        ... - Kim Jong Il


        “To sweep away the USSR and the CPSU, Lenin and Stalin is a pernicious historical nihilism. The USSR collapsed, and the CPSU suffered a collapse because their ideals and beliefs after Stalin were gradually reduced to naught. "
        ... Xi Jinping
      2. 0
        7 October 2020 15: 33
        Quote: Livonetc
        Well, if we consider as an option:
        Socialism with the presence of private property.
        This is an option for the development of the People's Republic of China.

        Of the leading countries of the world, only China (46,9) and Israel (42,8) are ahead of Russia in terms of social inequality,

        Something like this ...
        Quote: Livonetc
        We need to appreciate what we have now and put it in order.
        Stop looking longingly at what may be on the horizon.
        We must live here now.

        It is not easy "to live here and now", but to live according to conscience.
      3. +2
        7 October 2020 15: 53
        Well, yes, according to the cowardly "logic" of the enemies of the communists, the responsibility for your counter-revolution in Perestroika, for all your "color revolutions" on the territory of the former USSR, is borne not by you, but by those from whom you are taking power.
      4. +8
        7 October 2020 16: 22
        The Soviet Union collapsed not because of its unviability, but because of its mediocre leaders who were not able to carry out social economic reforms.
      5. +3
        7 October 2020 16: 35
        Well, if we consider as an option:
        Socialism with the presence of private property.

        A variant of socialism with private property Platoshkin proposes .. a criminal case was brought against him .. I think that those who have steamships, factories .. will not want to revise anything at all and they do not need socialism in any form .. They need to rob and fill their pockets to the last drop of oil, gas .. or a Russian citizen ..
        1. +3
          7 October 2020 21: 38
          Do you know what economists say?
          They all agree that the time for the growth of the surplus value of the product on the scale of the entire world economy is over. And political scientists answer them: since it is impossible to start a big world war in order to fix this matter, then through digitalization total control will be established over every hard worker in every country. This is in order to squeeze the last juices out of the entire planetary mass of laborers with countless, well-collected taxes, and thereby maintain that very surplus value of the product for a certain period of time. In simple terms, to further increase the capital of billionaire bloodsuckers. This is what you are talking about. What will happen next, one can only guess ...

          And in this political and economic situation, the notorious democracy will simply dissolve, as it never existed. And together with it, the leaders of the old naive-democratic persuasion will disappear, which we observe in relation to the mentioned Platoshkin, as well as Grudinin and all others who are not attracted by the role of scenery in the play called "Democratic Elections". For security reasons, leaders will no longer appear who sincerely, from a pure heart, from an altruistic impulse and natural empathy, and also from the understanding that a sealed cauldron cannot be boiled, will load our brains with the rights and needs of a simple hard worker and strain the ruling elite with the same ... The time of such leaders is running out, in fact, gone. The authorities will play in the appearance of democracy for some time, and that's all. Timelessness awaits us, the complete absence of any tribunes caring for the people. The laboring masses producing this accursed added value are only allowed to make spontaneous riots, which are necessarily brutally suppressed ...

          We are already seeing the signs of the coming era. You can say as long as you like that the yellow vests are a revolt of the Arab settlers, but then why did the indigenous French join them en masse? The same amount of time can be spent talking about the fact that the uprising of the population in America is a riot of stoned blacks directed by the Democrats against Trump, but then why is the white population joining the riot, not at all suffering from adherence to one or another political party? The spontaneous riots of the indigenous population of Germany are not even covered by the German press, but they are. Or the riot of the population in Kyrgyzstan, caused by indignation that one candidate is the president's brother, and the second is the customs boss who bought votes. The funny thing is that having taken money from that boss, the Kyrgyz went to rebellion against him, mind you, spontaneously.
          There is an era of awareness among the laboring masses that even without a leader they are a collective capable of changing reality, even if this so far in many cases turns out to be ineffectual and crooked. And it can be assumed that over time, despite total digital control and surveillance, leaders will emerge who will be able to use a much higher than the current degree of collectivism of the population to defend it, the population, and fair demands.
          The end of the liberal era means the end of the disunity of the working masses.
      6. -1
        7 October 2020 16: 35
        Quote: Livonetc
        development variant of the People's Republic of China

        The PRC option is a concentration camp for the benefit of the Oligarch. When both the country and its people (which is actually completely deprived of property) are owned by a handful of oligarchs.
        Want to work for a dorm room and a bowl of noodles for Uncle Ma? Move to China. And here we need other options.
    3. +2
      7 October 2020 15: 22
      Quote: paul3390
      No, and cannot be in principle.

      Forgot to add, under capitalism .....
  4. +17
    7 October 2020 15: 16
    Putinoids will run in and it will start: "the author is a loser, you are a loser criticizing all suckers and losers, you do not know how to make money, you envy successful people, you do not want to do anything, we have CO-CO-CO-capitalism, Raseyavstalaskalen, look how many Lexuses are in the yards, you did not fit into the market "
    1. +25
      7 October 2020 15: 24
      Yeah ... Go to work your still favorite with them ...
      I have worked all my life, and what have I gained? Nothing, my pension is not enough for medicine.
      1. -6
        7 October 2020 15: 47
        I want to ask you a personal question, but publicly ..
        Pensioner Ragnar, please tell us how you can get such a rating on 600 comments, without publications?
        Very interesting for working people!
        It seems to have run over your comets.
        Don't write anything abstruse.
        Support team, or just twinks?
        1. +8
          7 October 2020 16: 23
          Envy dries up the soul and heart .. wink
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        2. +12
          7 October 2020 16: 47
          I will be in charge of my esteemed Viking colleague. It is disgusting to make excuses on my own, I know from myself, especially when there is no guilt behind you.
          It's not just the number of comments, Alexey, but also their content. There is a commentator who has nothing in his comments except short fragmentary phrases like barking, and already a lieutenant general. There are a lot of such comments, one sentence at a time. The main thing there is: contempt for enemies and drown for Russia. Another rating option, as I understood a little, is to write well thought out thoughts. It’s not easy to shake off what came to mind, but according to G.K., Chesterton: Philosophy is nothing more than a thought, thought out to the end. It's not always fun and easy to think of it. But there is no way out: otherwise, you will have to apply half-thought thoughts... There are commentators whose statements I am very attentive to precisely because of their well thought out thoughts. So if you have any special attention to the rating (you poked someone that his opinion is negative and therefore his opinion is worthless) - choose and do as you know.
          1. -7
            7 October 2020 18: 55
            Quote: Galleon
            It is disgusting to make excuses on my own, I know from myself, especially when there is no fault behind you.

            I don't want to develop the discussion.
            But I will note that in my opinion, there are unconditional markups.
            You don't need to convince me. On the site since 2011. I know perfectly well what I'm talking about. hi
    2. +14
      7 October 2020 15: 58
      You be careful, for the second word in your comment I was banned here for several months. And the paid propagandists of Putin write exactly what the authorities need, and through them the authorities have proved that they are contemptuous and spiteful towards those who want order, justice, justice.
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  6. +5
    7 October 2020 15: 24
    Under capitalism, especially under Russian capitalism, there can be no social justice.
    1. 0
      7 October 2020 17: 23
      Isn't two square meters for each - this is not social justice !? what
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  9. +4
    7 October 2020 15: 34
    What is "justice"? - Read the Communist Manifesto.
    1. -4
      8 October 2020 12: 44
      What is "justice" For the communists, this is when you create wealth - you give the state to them at their discretion and disposal, and the benefits remain with you.
  10. -18
    7 October 2020 15: 47
    What words ... remembered. And for what? Did they want bloody Jewish Bolsheviks? Russian Orthodox faith is a support for everything. The market will decide everything.
    Social justice, as well as expediency, all come from the USSR. And fulfilled certain tasks of that society and state. But today Russia is a completely different state and a different goal-setting. And society as a whole welcomes. Dissatisfied with the amount of universal equivalent in the form of money. And for the market. for the right to set prices. for private property. because this is so closer and understandable to a simple ... and not an ordinary Russian ... after all, his shirt is always closer to his body.
    And the search for justice ... but everyone has their own. As well as the benefit. And you always want someone to owe it ... for just that. many do not want and cannot.
  11. +3
    7 October 2020 15: 52
    There is no justice anywhere, everywhere there is the right of the strong.
  12. 0
    7 October 2020 15: 52
    There is no justice anywhere, everywhere there is the right of the strong.
    1. 0
      7 October 2020 16: 37
      There is no justice anywhere, everywhere there is the right of the strong.

      ... so it's time to realize your power
      1. 0
        7 October 2020 23: 48
        It won't really change anything. All the same, the relatively strong will be weak and everything will turn in a circle.
  13. 0
    7 October 2020 16: 09
    Its (justice) is nowhere to be found.
  14. +6
    7 October 2020 16: 17
    since the state share in the share capital of Rosneft is 50%

    You have outdated information. While the coronavirus was "raging", something specifically changed. The state no longer holds a 50% stake in Rosneft. Why didn't anyone pay attention to this? I can't imagine
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  16. +8
    7 October 2020 16: 24
    According to Putin, 70% of Russia's population is middle class)
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  20. +8
    7 October 2020 16: 29
    Property stratification in Russia from the article
    How Russian officials live the same from the article

    I bought my dacha (where I will not finish the "summer season" for another week) I bought 15 years ago ...
    Nearby, in the neighborhood, at that time an ordinary lieutenant of the traffic police bought a plot ...

    Well, I (with an official WHITE income of 100.000 rubles), of course, arranged my dacha ... But this is NOT !!! is in no way compared to the "white-stone castle", which otrohali himself already the deputy head of the traffic police - although - OFFICIALLY !!! he was getting "pennies" compared to me for the last 15 years laughing

    Question: where is "social justice" here ?! wassat

    The answer is given in the article:

    The majority of the population is outraged not so much by the high salaries and incomes of the bureaucracy as by the undeservedness and illegitimacy of receiving them.
    1. +6
      7 October 2020 18: 21
      so the Police Inspectors of the Road Regulation are nightingales-robbers on the roads, not only do the People provide them-from and to-so they still for the People's money-rob the People on the roads
      1. +4
        7 October 2020 18: 33
        Quote: Charik
        so Police Traffic Inspectors- these are nightingales-robbers on the roads - not only do the People provide them-from and to-so they still for the People's money-rob the People on the roads

        From a LEGAL point of view - my highlighted in bold the category of officials is those people who live on the taxes of citizens of the Russian Federation ... including mine good tongue And I still don't understand why they live better than those on whose money they should live ?! belay
        1. +2
          8 October 2020 12: 25
          That's exactly "live" and "work" and manage to "earn" -and must serve-the people who are numerous in our country and constitute a multinational state.
        2. -4
          8 October 2020 12: 46
          Well, probably because these officials are at most 10000 for the whole of Russia with millions of salaries - and tens of millions of people pay taxes.
        3. 0
          8 October 2020 12: 56
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5pFjzvv6UQ как тяжело работать в полиции
    2. -1
      7 October 2020 21: 48
      Quote: Corona without virus
      with an official WHITE income of 100.000 rubles

      Why do you keep writing this? This is strange.
      1. 0
        7 October 2020 21: 51
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Quote: Corona without virus
        with an official WHITE income of 100.000 rubles

        Why do you keep writing this? This is strange.

        There are just a lot of some here who think that I am a lumpen teenager 16 years old laughing
        1. 0
          7 October 2020 22: 25
          Quote: Corona without virus
          there are many here who think that I am a lumpen teenager 16 years old

          So what prevents a teenager from earning this money?
          Or, especially since it prevents him from writing about what earns them?
  21. +5
    7 October 2020 16: 30
    Again, an official, an official is different. There are municipal and state employees. So go to the local administration, how many people, but in reality, there are at least municipal officials, and the rest are hired workers. Accordingly, the salary is different. The same is the case at state unitary enterprises. Such social justice. And when they say that they say that officials have been laid off, they mean the reduction of positions that fall under the concept of a municipal employee. The municipality was dismissed, but an employee appeared in his place.
  22. 0
    7 October 2020 16: 45
    It's funny. Why not ask where is heaven on Earth? And to conclude that there is no paradise in Russia because there is United Russia and Putin.
  23. +6
    7 October 2020 16: 47
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    The question sounds like a mockery. The most socially just state was the USSR. More than in the history of mankind, there was nothing better in terms of social justice.
  24. +3
    7 October 2020 16: 47
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    The question sounds like a mockery. The most socially just state was the USSR. More than in the history of mankind, there was nothing better in terms of social justice.
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  26. -8
    7 October 2020 16: 51
    A very superficial article, to be honest. Fundamentally it is correct, but if you look in particular, then there are a lot of erroneous figures, a lot of wrong conclusions, there are fundamentally wrong initial postulates.

    I have a private opinion, for example, on the income of high-ranking officials. They should be high. Those. the salary for the head of the region, say, 5 million rubles a month is quite adequate for me. Even if the average salary in his region is 30 thousand? those. the difference is 150-200 times. People who make decisions worth hundreds of millions every day should not be poor. But at the same time, for the slightest suspicion of corruption and receiving a bribe for their work, they should be removed from this work, each case should be investigated and, upon confirmation of the fact, imprisoned with confiscation of property. Incl. and a family that suddenly became successful businessmen.
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      +1
      9 October 2020 00: 48
      Quote: Mishka78
      Those. the salary for the head of the region, say, 5 million rubles a month is quite adequate for me. Even if the average salary in his region is 30 thousand? those. the difference is 150-200 times. People who make decisions worth hundreds of millions every day should not be poor.

      Do they benefit us 5 lemons a month? After all, we are paying them these 5 lemons!
      1. 0
        14 October 2020 16: 32
        Maybe they bring, or maybe not, then they are removed. But objectively, they have such an opportunity within the framework of the issued powers.
  27. +1
    7 October 2020 17: 02
    "Justice? What a word? I've never heard such a thing!" Can you tell me who can say that in Russia?
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    1. 0
      7 October 2020 17: 56
      And you did not pay attention to the fact that, for example, in the West, all demonstrations are held with the demand to resolve economic and social issues, and for some reason we always have demonstrations only after elections and always with calls for a change in the constitutional order? ...
      And why now, if we live so badly, no one calls to take to the streets to demonstrate?
      As for me, our trade union movements are not at all developed
      but for the provocateur Navalny and the people like him, this is just a tool with the help of which people like him can come to power, but then no one will seem a little.
      And now we need to take to the streets and not wait for elections and demand a revision of the privatization of the 90s, the nationalization of all natural resources and key strategic enterprises that will bring profit to the budget and not to the oligarch's pocket
      Then more or less social justice will prevail.
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  41. +3
    7 October 2020 17: 15
    Quote: vavilon
    And what has Putin to do with it?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that has been established

    Or maybe the same Putin installed this system? And periodically supported, updated! Who created the system when the law, for some, only a piece of paper? And who cemented that administrative resource when elections cause only a smile, or only swear words?
    Moreover, in many post-Soviet countries such systems flourish. And when after the next "clean elections" the patience of the people spills out onto the streets, then we are looking for agents of the State Department, the fifth column and traitors to the homeland. And the government itself, headed by the president, does not want to critically look at their affairs. ?! hi
  42. +1
    7 October 2020 17: 15
    Quote: vavilon
    And what has Putin to do with it?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that has been established

    Or maybe the same Putin installed this system? And periodically supported, updated! Who created the system when the law, for some, only a piece of paper? And who cemented that administrative resource when elections cause only a smile, or only swear words?
    Moreover, in many post-Soviet countries such systems flourish. And when after the next "clean elections" the patience of the people spills out onto the streets, then we are looking for agents of the State Department, the fifth column and traitors to the homeland. And the government itself, headed by the president, does not want to critically look at their affairs. ?! hi
  43. +1
    7 October 2020 17: 15
    Quote: vavilon
    And what has Putin to do with it?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that has been established

    Or maybe the same Putin installed this system? And periodically supported, updated! Who created the system when the law, for some, only a piece of paper? And who cemented that administrative resource when elections cause only a smile, or only swear words?

    Moreover, in many post-Soviet countries such systems flourish. And when after the next "clean elections" the patience of the people spills out onto the streets, then we are looking for agents of the State Department, the fifth column and traitors to the homeland. And the government itself, headed by the president, does not want to critically look at their affairs. ?! hi
  44. 0
    7 October 2020 17: 15
    Quote: vavilon
    And what has Putin to do with it?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that has been established

    Or maybe the same Putin installed this system? And periodically supported, updated! Who created the system when the law, for some, only a piece of paper? And who cemented that administrative resource when elections cause only a smile, or only swear words?

    Moreover, in many post-Soviet countries such systems flourish. And when after the next "clean elections" the patience of the people spills out onto the streets, then we are looking for agents of the State Department, the fifth column and traitors to the homeland. And the government itself, headed by the president, does not want to critically look at their affairs. ?! hi
  45. 0
    7 October 2020 17: 15
    Quote: vavilon
    And what has Putin to do with it?)) The problem is in the liberal-oligarchic system that has been established

    Or maybe the same Putin installed this system? And periodically supported, updated! Who created the system when the law, for some, only a piece of paper? And who cemented that administrative resource when elections cause only a smile, or only swear words?

    Moreover, in many post-Soviet countries such systems flourish. And when after the next "clean elections" the patience of the people spills out onto the streets, then we are looking for agents of the State Department, the fifth column and traitors to the homeland. And the government itself, headed by the president, does not want to critically look at their affairs. ?! hi
  46. -5
    7 October 2020 17: 35
    Under the myth of "social justice" you can only ditch Russia a couple more times. In reality, it has never been, is not and never will be. Among the "revolutionaries", unscrupulous people will always find ways to eliminate the "dreamers." And then they will hand over the property to the "new elites."
    In countries with a patriotic elite, the rich and the poor do not live in harmony. But "with them" the state does not turn into a "rusty Titanic".
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  50. +5
    7 October 2020 18: 03
    average salary in the country 48,3 is nonsense
    1. +1
      8 October 2020 08: 52
      Why not? The statistics are as follows:
  51. +10
    7 October 2020 18: 46
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    What kind of social justice can we talk about if the gains of the Great October Revolution - free medicine and education - are dying out? What kind of social justice can we talk about if in our country every year the stratification in society is growing, the rich are getting richer and the rest are getting poorer.
  52. +2
    7 October 2020 18: 52
    There was something similar in the USSR. But it was not, is not and will not be. That’s why we talk a lot about justice, but there is none. If there were, we wouldn’t notice, just as we don’t notice that we are breathing.
  53. +3
    7 October 2020 19: 01
    In order for there to be social justice in Russia, our government must have a conscience and not the Eaters of Russia!
  54. 0
    7 October 2020 19: 07
    and after all this, someone else thinks that everything will happen bloodlessly, as a result of elections, naively read political economy
  55. +3
    7 October 2020 20: 54
    “The Russian person’s value base is justice, so he is historically particularly sensitive to issues of social injustice”

    It’s time to throw out of your head all this nonsense about our people’s special attitude to justice with their legs dangling in the air. THIS_ISN'T_TRUE.
    For centuries, yes, in the golden-silver centuries of our historical pathos and development - in our country they especially relished spreading rot on people and wiping their feet and other parts of the body on them (and with them), both states with a capital gold leaf letter, and a diverse class beast that rode on ordinary people to the fullest, just like the clergy in general (excluding the lower ranks). People were sold like cattle until the 60s of the 19th century, when trains were already rolling with might and main and the telegraph was knocking. And at this time, the nobles spoke French, spent entire fortunes obtained by these people - in brothels and gambling establishments, on clothes and hussarship. It doesn’t hurt that the overwhelming majority, the absolutely overwhelming majority, were oppressed and tormented by “social injustice.” Just like the clergy - it doesn’t hurt that our clergy was burned by the fact that Orthodox people are traded as a thing in their own country! And the intelligentsia - oh, oh! Somehow these masters of epic thoughts and great inventors of the Russian state also didn’t worry too much about this.
    This is how the state worked for centuries, squeezing kefir and fermented baked milk out of ordinary peasants for idiotic wars, in which some lost most of their lives and health (25 years of conscription), and others grew in rank from birth, eating their cheeks in the capitals.

    So let’s no longer remember this epic nonsense about some special moral qualities supposedly inherent to the Russian people. History shows us that our own man will be in the forefront of tearing three skins from our man, and the first to harness the whip to bludgeon the slave he is, receiving scraps from the master's table. This is something that you need to squeeze out of yourself, something that you need to remember, instead of these endless pretentious speeches about how fucking cool and epic we are.
    1. -6
      7 October 2020 21: 04
      And yes - for those who sigh tenderly for “social justice in the USSR” - I recommend that you remember how the expression “Got it” differed from “Bought it”, in the context of “social justice”. The stores "Berezka" and "Torgsin" were very fair places for people of the "First Category", oh yes, and the term "Categories" itself - it was used - in the context of the "category of supplying cities". Like Moscow, St. Petersburg - the first, some military and closed cities - the second, and other "shelupon" - the third. Very, very fair!
      Social justice was simply in full swing - when various “Big People” were given apartments in elite buildings, and other little people who were ruining their health grew mold in communal apartments and barracks, and then in “Khrushchev houses” - it was super fair.
      About departmental dachas and sanatoriums “for our own”, departmental medicine, food rations “for our own” - how is it?

      All these are also fairy tales - in the USSR, people were actually also divided into castes, it’s just that powder-fucking was elevated to an absolute level, they could almost perfectly justify to the dude from the barracks that he should, is obliged to work hard at the enterprise - so that the countries of young socialism acquire their own arsenals, because they need still raise fraternal Egypt, heroic Vietnam, the dear Baltic states, etc. And he will kill himself, and the women will still give birth.
    2. -1
      8 October 2020 00: 38
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      It’s time to throw out of your head all this nonsense about our people’s special attitude to justice with their legs dangling in the air.

      You don't understand the simplest things.
      Every family has its black sheep. In a society where the healthy majority regards gaining power and acquiring wealth according to their conscience (“whoever wants to be great among you must be your servant,” “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God”), few finds within himself the desire to accept this burden of responsibility. This vacuum is being filled by an unhealthy minority.
      Thus, there is no contradiction between the behavior of the “elite” you described (consisting largely of representatives of an unhealthy minority) and the love for justice of the popular majority.
      1. +2
        8 October 2020 01: 20
        Another illusion is the division of “the people” into elite and non-elite. - they say the “deep people” are the embodiment of some kind of super spiritual values, and people who climb into power or business are dirty and vile little people.
        The point, you see, the point is this. The popular uprisings of the peasants, who were really SICK of being ridden as they wished, were pacified not by minorities, but by people from among them, the same recruits, for the most part. They drove one herd onto another herd and people enthusiastically tore each other apart, this is the essence of our national dilemma. We_really_love_to_fry_ourselves. To make our life uncomfortable, hardcore, full of stupid and useless heroism in existence itself, we love to tear the butt and force others to do it, forcing, breaking people and spitting on their foundations. When the surrounding peoples condemn this in us with different voices, we refuse to believe it, over and over again, with the tenacity of a maniac, stepping on the same manic-depressive rake.

        We can look at the CPSU - which was an excellent cross-section of our people. How many hard workers there were, advanced workers, skilled business executives, military medalists - and these people calmly looked at the degradation of the USSR and the growing gerontocracy, they were corrupted little by little by privileges, to the point where they themselves believed that these privileges, for their real exclusivity, were completely justified . Many people don’t like Tereshkova - oh, so and so. And by the way, he is a man of the people, not of noble blood, sir!
        However, years are at a golden trough - and here it is, a transformation of thinking, and this is a very good example of the fact that in the case of our people - all these discussions about some kind of exclusive attitude towards “freedom” and “justice” are blablablabla-demagoguery imposed by agitprop because we love so passionately when we are praised, we look for these peas from any litter, for the sake of them we are ready to quote even Churchill, even Mussolini. The truth is that the people who shot watered prisoners or passed sentences in “troikas” were from the people. Those who cheated and stole from warehouses during the late USSR were also from the people, those who used an iron, soldering iron and bat to pave their way into the dashing “90s” were also from the people, and gold chains with rings and crimson jackets were theirs the answer to this “original high spirituality” of yours and the request for social justice.

        Or we will say - no, no way, this is not the people - this is dirt and some kind of game - but then, logically, if you rip off all these people who were in power, who did terrible things and stood to death for those who did, working by their faithful satraps - what will remain of this highly spiritual organism? The picture will be scanty, even in the most luxurious years of our empire.

        No, I understand - people love a beautiful myth, epic tales about a tough and savvy Russian man “a la Evdokimov” - the only problem is that historically our state and these very people in the service of the state ate such people, calling them middle peasants, etc. . Here is justice for you - as it is, in Russian. Eat everything that comes out of the suffering heap and work to increase the degree of suffering, for the sake of order for everyone, which rests on the suppression of these same everyone. This is our historical Inferno - and the recipe for getting out of it is definitely not in the USSR. And generally nowhere in the past of our country.
        1. -1
          8 October 2020 05: 28
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Another illusion is the division of the “people” into elite and non-elite

          To deny the influence of selection is stupid.
          And after selection, many more constantly operating factors are included.
          Stupidly estimate the average weight of the DPRK elite and look at the average weight of their people. These are even physiologically different people.
        2. 0
          14 October 2020 16: 34
          Very specific moneylenders were often called kulaks. And, as a rule, they even called it.
  56. BAI
    +2
    7 October 2020 21: 16
    Firstly, they do not pay taxes on dividends, since current laws exempt them from such obligation, allowing them to withdraw dividends offshore and avoid taxation. Only this year the law on payment of 15% taxes on dividends was finally adopted, but it comes into force on January 1, 2021.

    The author does not know the difference between dividends and bank deposits.
    Dividends are a portion of a company's net income that is subject to distribution among all existing investors in proportion to the shares they own.
    Currently, for individuals, the tax percentage on dividends is as follows:

    13% - if the person is a resident;
    15% for non-residents.

    А
    on the payment of 15% taxes on dividends, but it comes into force on January 1, 2021

    - this is about BANK DEPOSITS!
    If the author does not know these basic things, all his “economic research” can be thrown into the trash.
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  58. +6
    7 October 2020 21: 18
    What kind of justice can we even talk about, looking around at what is obvious and bulging like an ugly tumor, cynically, arrogantly and demonstrably hypocritical, without even digging deeply and without subjecting anything to deep analysis? “pension reform”, pension laws are one for the “boyar class” and others for serfs, the only category of pensioners in the world subjected to discrimination on professional grounds, the introduction of a reduction factor for military pensioners, and military pensioners who went through all the hell of perestroika and the carnage of national conflicts, also in violation of all conceivable laws, they are once again humiliated by the fact that they are deprived of recalculating the size of pensions according to official salaries. Why are such great talents and masterpieces, the most immoral and poorly educated, anti-people and Russophobic pack of trash-beau monde, stupefied by money and permissiveness, are going crazy in their overseas villas, keeping their children there, paying for their millions of expenses, when a university teacher (I’m generally silent about the school ), a steelmaker or a miner is not able to place his people in a camp or section for the summer? There is not enough space to list everything. Only former “Komsomol leaders” can talk about some kind of social justice, lounging in sun loungers on the deck of their yachts from an aircraft carrier, who are now “effective managers” successfully “mastering” the budget and wealth of the once mighty power that they killed and betrayed. This topic in my philistine opinion, it is inexhaustible and too painful for our once proud and invincible, but now spat upon and humiliated, robbed people, deprived of their homeland and a clear future, and most importantly, the purpose of their existence.
  59. +3
    7 October 2020 21: 23
    Quote: stas
    PLUToshkin project of the Kremlin!

    Then they arrested their project without trial or investigation, without presenting clear charges, for violating all conceivable laws and banal common sense and systematically killing it, out of great love it seems.
    1. 0
      7 October 2020 22: 55
      They were arrested for home confinement, so they took PLUToshkin out of the game when the plan failed in Khabarovsk, and all the information about him is for people with cold ears!
  60. 0
    8 October 2020 06: 49
    I read how much the average salary is in Moscow. I asked a Muscovite. He just grinned. In such a society, we are accustomed to averaging everything. Even if we calculate earnings in one hour, the earnings of the rich will immediately be mixed in. And everything will turn out just fine.
  61. +2
    8 October 2020 08: 39
    What the... social justice, bureaucratic-oligarchic, crazy capitalism. 1% go crazy, 10% live, and 89% tie ends meet or survive.
  62. 0
    8 October 2020 09: 34
    Alas. Alas.
    all these are dreams of justice...

    They will say: Do you want it like in Kyrgyzstan? Ukraine? France?
    Oh, you damned Maidan workers! And especially active ones - a pipe to the head. Or a plane crash, if richer (The newbie has compromised himself)
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  64. -1
    8 October 2020 12: 05
    “For the sustainability of the state and society, it is generally accepted that the income of the richest 10% of the population in the country should not exceed the income of the poorest 10% by more than 10 times.” And how to do this, if I make a profit of hundreds of millions of rubles a year, then I must reduce my income to 120000 according to the minimum wage for the year? The formula for delirium is no different.
  65. -2
    8 October 2020 12: 19
    “The Belarusian leadership is pursuing a policy aimed at limiting the capital of private individuals and a relatively even distribution of state income among its citizens. Such actions lead to a lower stratification of society than in Russia. There are no billionaires in Belarus and only 1,4% of the population owns assets over 100 thousand dollars. There are millionaires, but they are only 0,1% of the total population. Therefore, Belarus is one of the countries with the lowest wealth stratification, where the principles of social justice are generally respected. Despite all the political and economic problems of Belarus, Russia has something to offer learn." “There are no billionaires” - Fuck it. Part of all production in the country is unprofitable or on the verge of unprofitability, and part of this social justice is paid for at the expense of Russia, and if everything is so great there, then why does it smell like something fried in Belarus, politically and economically?
  66. 0
    8 October 2020 12: 44
    Tell me one country on planet earth that has social justice))) You feel bad in Russia - come to Ukraine, live here for a couple of months, preferably a year and a half, then Russia will be like New Year to you)))
    1. -1
      8 October 2020 12: 53
      Bhutan and Dubai social justice is at the level there; all the courts are on the side of the workers.
      1. +1
        8 October 2020 13: 08
        I don't know about Bhutan. And in Dubai, social justice is only for citizens, and Indians and Pakistanis who work in the dirtiest and lowest paid jobs have not even heard about it.
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  68. +1
    8 October 2020 14: 11
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    If there was, there would be no question. Yes
    If there is a question, it means there is no question. Yes
  69. 0
    8 October 2020 21: 00
    I read everything.
    Colleagues, let’s approach the issue of justice this way. Let's say Navalny. Tell me, if the Prosecutor’s Office, the FSB, the Investigative Committee, the courts and the police worked clearly, according to the law, as it should be, then would there be a place in our lives for whistleblowers like Navalny? Of course not! For the affairs of the scoundrels he exposes, regardless of their affiliation with the “friends” of the president or his enemies, would be dealt with with great zeal, literally falling off their feet, day and night by the appropriate people in the relevant competent authorities, strictly observing the laws of our state and handing down well-deserved sentences to the scoundrels. We wouldn't sleep or eat! And I assure you that we would not have such a monstrous dispersion in income, which is given by the respected Author. Of course, the spread would be smaller.

    This is where justice should begin - the equality of everyone before the law. And only then, or along with the implementation of justice of this kind, can the question be raised about whether someone has justly seized the mineral resources, energy, utilities, etc. and is squeezing all the juice out of the people. Whether the law is bad or good, everyone is equal before it, without any exceptions.

    Why don’t we have equality before the law as the initial stage of justice? But because usurpers, traitors, thieves, bandits, and corrupt officials came to power. Would they be comfortable existing in an atmosphere of equality before the law? Definitely not. And since the army and special troops are subordinate to the power of any state under any social system, called upon to protect - not the law, but the power, and to protect, using any cruel measures to suppress the dissatisfied, which is what we see in many countries, and in our own country too , it turns out that in our case we do not even reach the initial stage of implementing justice. Because it's harmful to health.

    It follows that the lack of equality of everyone before the law as the initial stage of justice in our country predetermines its absence in a mass sense. So they say that the law is a drawbar. But this is the tragedy of our life.
    1. 0
      9 October 2020 08: 41
      Quote: depressant
      I read everything.
      Colleagues, let’s approach the issue of justice this way. Let's say Navalny. Tell me, if the Prosecutor’s Office, the FSB, the Investigative Committee, the courts and the police worked clearly, according to the law, as it should be, then would there be a place in our lives for whistleblowers like Navalny? Of course not! For the affairs of the scoundrels he exposes, regardless of their affiliation with the “friends” of the president or his enemies, would be dealt with with great zeal, literally falling off their feet, day and night by the appropriate people in the relevant competent authorities, strictly observing the laws of our state and handing down well-deserved sentences to the scoundrels. We wouldn't sleep or eat! And I assure you that we would not have such a monstrous dispersion in income, which is given by the respected Author. Of course, the spread would be smaller.

      This is where justice should begin - the equality of everyone before the law. And only then, or along with the implementation of justice of this kind, can the question be raised about whether someone has justly seized the mineral resources, energy, utilities, etc. and is squeezing all the juice out of the people. Whether the law is bad or good, everyone is equal before it, without any exceptions.

      Why don’t we have equality before the law as the initial stage of justice? But because usurpers, traitors, thieves, bandits, and corrupt officials came to power. Would they be comfortable existing in an atmosphere of equality before the law? Definitely not. And since the army and special troops are subordinate to the power of any state under any social system, called upon to protect - not the law, but the power, and to protect, using any cruel measures to suppress the dissatisfied, which is what we see in many countries, and in our own country too , it turns out that in our case we do not even reach the initial stage of implementing justice. Because it's harmful to health.

      It follows that the lack of equality of everyone before the law as the initial stage of justice in our country predetermines its absence in a mass sense. So they say that the law is a drawbar. But this is the tragedy of our life.

      The point is not that it was in our country that some radishes came to power. The point is the inevitable contradiction between the social nature of labor and the distribution of its results on the basis of private ownership of the means of production.
      Proof of this is the simple fact that “results” similar to ours are being “successfully” achieved by the Germans, the French, the Americans and other citizens of other countries. From this point of view, everything is not so bad for us. But this is only because in society not all birthmarks of the previous way of life have disappeared. People also remember free education, medicine, housing, the complete absence of unemployment, and equal opportunities. We simply feel our injustice more acutely only because our shirt is closer to our body.
      1. 0
        9 October 2020 10: 06
        Not quite like that, colleague.
        Let's take an article from a respected Author. He says: Russians don’t have any special idea of ​​justice, it’s the same as everyone else’s. And he gives an example: peasants were flogged, sold, but they endured. This is because all the outrages were done according to the law! From the point of view of the peasants themselves, what was done to them was fair, because it was legal. And only in those moments when the pain exceeded the permissible value, they rebelled, thereby moving to a new level of demands for justice, namely: the need to change the law itself. Because he's tough.
        As for us, today, in our idea of ​​justice, in our demands for it, we are much lower than the peasants of Tsarist Russia. Give us enough food from the presidential hand, and we are ready to tolerate any lawlessness, only half-heartedly muttering about theft, corruption and violation of the rule of law in the highest echelons of power. And in this regard, we are not so much corrupted by the paternalism of the USSR, believing that, supposedly, the authorities need it, so let the rule of law impose itself, but rather, the selfish and unresponsible generations of youth have been corrupted by the authorities’ tolerance for general lawlessness. They grew up in this, they do not die of hunger, because their justice consists in the presence of sufficient conditions that allow each of them to snatch more for themselves from those around them in an atmosphere of general lawlessness - here you are right.

        We have lost the instinct to preserve the rule of law as the initial stage of implementing justice. And this happened because defending a legal solution to one’s issue in court in the conditions of a gangster state is fraught with illegal consequences for the “thief.”

        Is this why England still holds out, even though its laws were cruel and in some cases are so now? But because they, the laws, for the most part were and are being observed. Let's say, Parliament sentenced the bandits to be deported to Australia, while depriving them of citizenship - the magnificent state of Australia was formed. Because even the English bandits had a correct idea of ​​justice as the equality of all before the law.
        Next.
        In the recent past, they were sentenced by law to take children away from the poor and exile them to the same Australia, now a state - they took them away and exiled them. Because it's the law. They performed it in the 60s and 70s of the last century, despite the groans and screams. Or there is a law to save a newborn only with a certain number of pathologies and they will save it. One more pathology - a deadly drug in an IV! The whole world recently raised money for the treatment of a little Englishman in the USA - in vain. Because in England there is a law that we comply with under any circumstances of humanism.
        This is the justice of the first stage. We don't have it close.
        And no one even remembers that Russia has not signed the UN Convention against Corruption. So what to talk about?
  70. 0
    9 October 2020 00: 25
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: paul3390
    It's not about Putin, it's about capitalism

    I agree, but it was in Putin's power to turn on social rails and choose with the people he or the oligarchs, the choice was not in favor of the people.

    Your passage is initially flawed - the one you are talking about could not go anywhere, and was not going to turn it off, he did not escape from the KGB of the USSR to Sobchak in order to act differently. Subsequently, all his actions, including when working under Sobchak, suggest that the person consciously acted, and continues to act, exclusively in the interests of a certain group of people here in the country, and not only in it... . sad hi
  71. 0
    9 October 2020 08: 22
    Kindergarten, junior group...
    The Russian person’s value base is justice, so he is historically particularly sensitive to issues of social injustice and does not accept inequality and private property, which leads to inequality among people.

    What nonsense! We must start with the fact that it is not private property itself that leads to inequality, but private ownership of the main means of production. Those. when in the state, as a mechanism for carrying out the will of the ruling class, despite the social nature of labor, the private-property method of distributing the results of labor dominates, then this very injustice arises. It arises inevitably, regardless of whether this society consists only of Russian people, not only of Russians or of people of any other nation, nationality, mentality, spirit or whatever else you like. Yes, Russian people have a craving for justice. But it is not determined by nationality, religion or any other characteristics of our society. This is a property inherent in absolutely all people. Even the jungle pygmies. This happens because a person, being reasonable (homo sapiens), quickly understands that all people are equal to each other in their inner potential. And all differences, including class and others that inevitably arise during the formation of property inheritance, are artificial. Those. do not have any true, absolute character.
    That. there is no unique Russian desire for justice. There is a completely obvious desire for justice among all peoples at all times. Yes, it does not always and everywhere manifest itself in the same obvious way, but this is due only to the degree of oppression of the have-nots by the haves, the peculiarities of the local way of life, and its influence on the conditions of survival. For example, the northern peoples are introducing the exploitation of man by man faster and more strongly only because the social nature of labor is more developed among them than in the more comfortable, warmer parts on average. Those. the easier it is to survive alone, the less developed the social nature of labor, the less the so-called. injustice caused by the inheritance of the accumulated unequal division of labor based on private ownership of the means of production.
    There are other factors, but it is the development of social labor and the institution of inheritance of property that is decisive.


    In Russian self-consciousness, wealth is a sin,

    Nonsense. Wealth is not a sin. It's not a sin to be rich. It is a sin to be greedy and greedy. Covetousness is a sin.


    capital destroys the soul, creates injustice and humiliates another person.

    And again a mistake. If capital belongs to those who directly create it, then nothing like this happens.
    Although I would not consider such a term as soul at all in this context. From a religious point of view, it does not have a scientific definition due to its transcendence to the material world and material methods of cognition.
    The term conscience might be more appropriate here. But with the destruction of conscience the same parsley as with sin.


    For him, the most important things are social justice, equal rights for everyone and the need for a strong state that takes care of its citizens.

    This is important for any member of society. But it often happens (although not in an absolute number of cases) that individuals who have received power over society do not completely forget about their responsibilities to society, but put their personal, private interests above the interests of society.
    And I repeat again - Russianness, Americanness, Germanness, Indianness, Vietnameseness, Chineseness, Turkishness, Frenchness, Upper Volkness, Englishness, Japaneseness have nothing to do with it. This is an objective law of the development of labor relations in human society. By the way, it was opened in the century before last.
    1. 0
      9 October 2020 08: 44
      What synonyms for the word justice do we know? obviously the closest would be balance and equilibrium
      How many types of manifestations of “justice” are there? I only know four
      1 equally for everyone
      2 everyone randomly
      3 everyone takes turns
      4 due to everyone
      I think there should be other forms of manifestation of justice, if anyone knows, please add to the list
  72. +2
    9 October 2020 11: 25
    There is NO social justice in the Russian Federation and Putin’s government and companies do not strive for it. I recently asked for medical help, since services that were previously free, today are only for money and their cost is starting to bother me, but for pensioners with a pension like my mother, they are not available at all. People are simply being pushed to the brink of survival. But for everything...like Chubais and Yeltsin’s offspring, Vovan always has money...
    1. 0
      9 October 2020 12: 31
      However, it is of practical interest how to find out whether there is justice in something or not, if justice is synonymous with balance, then it is more or less clear, for example, put a thermometer in the armpit, took it out, saw 38 * C instead of 36.6 * C, which means the thermal equilibrium is disturbed, or the cyclist lost his balance, but These are simple cases, but what about relationships between people? It’s probably like in accounting, we write as an asset or as a liability, it turns out that fairness is accounting.
  73. 0
    13 October 2020 15: 48
    Is there social justice in Russia?

    Was she ever there somewhere? Why such opuses at all? Maybe you can try to analyze what idealistic approaches to social justice led to? The example of Belarus sitting on Russia’s neck is absolutely gorgeous here. Do you think that state corporations are distributing money? So what, compare what Rosneft was like in the 90s and now. How much taxes did they pay then and now? and so on. Do you think that anyone can manage and develop such structures? Do not make me laugh. Drooling while looking at someone else's pocket is a favorite pastime of “fighters for justice” and populists. The development of any system towards justice only has a chance of success when it proceeds evolutionarily, which is what is happening now. And yes, this is not a quick process. Any attempts to make it revolutionary lead to an ocean of blood and... to the absence, as a result, of this very notorious “social justice”. And apparently for you, an amazing discovery will be that the state, in order to fulfill its functions of preserving this very state, needs generators of funds, thanks to which it is possible to build roads, organize defense, develop science, etc.. And another discovery for infantiles. Can you imagine that the state doesn’t care about you if you profess the “everyone owes me” mentality, because the people who manage it understand that the population is a resource. And it is possible to create ideal conditions for a single resource only when the return from it exceeds the investment. You can write a lot on this topic, but you need to understand one thing: the state distributes resources in areas to minimize losses and according to the principle of strategic return. And state corporations have proven that their efficiency is higher than private companies. If investments in a specific subject are compensated, then it receives priority, otherwise you receive from the state security, medicine, education corresponding to a specific stage of development, and no one promised that it would sacrifice state interests to people who believe that they are owed everything. There is no social justice anywhere, never has been and never will be in the foreseeable future. There is a process of transformation of the relationship between the state and society, away from: “each peasant can have 3 slaves”, to: “my rights end where the rights of others begin.” It is still difficult to understand what part of the path society is in, but in my opinion it is somewhere in the first third.
  74. 0
    14 October 2020 11: 47
    The country was captured by an organized crime group and is ruling, as was planned in the plans for the collapse of the Union.
    Russia is simply the next stage of its plunder and destruction. Everything is going as planned.
    It is pointless to talk about social justice while this system and this gang are in power in the country.
  75. 0
    14 October 2020 12: 49
    There are no billionaires in Belarus and only 1,4% of the population owns assets over $100 thousand.


    From the point of view of the average person, it is important not how many billionaires there are, but how well they live on average. For some reason, the Russian average person lives better than the Belarusian, and it is Russia that subsidizes Belarus, and not vice versa.

    As for the income of the heads of corporations, then, of course, I apologize wildly, but if a person has increased the corporation’s income by tens of billions, and this is exactly the case with Rosneft, then his salary of 100 million simply does not play any role here . Before Sechin, there was no one “Rosneft” and its name was nothing.

    Of the leading countries in the world, only China is ahead of Russia in terms of social inequality coefficient (46,9)


    Wait, wait, who is in power in China now? No N. is it the "Chinese Communist Party"? And is it not China (which the West foolishly built an industry) that we are being asked to emulate?

    If someone doesn’t like Putin, then I suggest asking their parents what it was like in the 90s, when no one had a salary for six months, and if they give it out, it’s often in kind. About crimson jackets, criminal lawlessness and other delights that those born on Putin’s maternal capital no longer found.
  76. 0
    17 October 2020 15: 03
    [quote=Vadim237]The communists have long been gone - only pseudo-communists and their imitators remain.[/quote
    They were not in the Union either - the Bolsheviks, a few years after the Great Patriotic War, became a totalitarian sect with communist rhetoric. And they discredited the communist idea for centuries.
  77. 0
    17 October 2020 20: 18
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    So let’s no longer remember this epic nonsense about some special moral qualities supposedly inherent to the Russian people. History shows us that our own man will be in the forefront of tearing three skins from our man, and the first to harness the whip to bludgeon the slave he is, receiving scraps from the master's table. This is something that you need to squeeze out of yourself, something that you need to remember, instead of these endless pretentious speeches about how fucking cool and epic we are.

    I agree with bitterness... Our people are good, our people are bad....
  78. +1
    24 October 2020 22: 07
    Modern Russia and social justice are two parallel lines that, as we know, never intersect.
  79. 0
    7 November 2020 22: 44
    People want to live well, and this is seen as social justice. To have a good job, a decent salary, freedom, social elevators. And not that someone has an income 1000 times more. And people count money in their own pockets, not in other people’s pockets.
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  81. 0
    9 November 2020 11: 16
    Russia is a country of high literature, therefore, the “guardians” for social changes not only do not go beyond sophisticated chatter, but do not even think about it, inventing yet another fairy tale about some kind of SOCIAL state.
    And what is THIS, they not only cannot explain, but also do not want to do it, knowing that this is empty chatter, and, therefore, they will not be able to practice elegant literature
  82. 0
    17 November 2020 19: 07
    People want to live well. Have a decent salary, good job, social elevators, the opportunity to teach your children, security, freedom. They see social justice in this. And not in the differences in the incomes of the rich and the poor. No one cares about the fact that someone has an income 1000 times more.
  83. PVM
    0
    18 November 2020 20: 55
    Quote from the Internet. Suitable for all occasions in the life of our Rashi.
    One can only be amazed at the stupidity of the people who strive to make a fairy tale come true,
    and in the end he always sits at a broken trough with his bare ass for a spanking.

    Here, of course, everyone pays lip service to justice. But not in business!
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  85. 0
    28 November 2020 13: 39
    In short... NO,
  86. 0
    5 December 2020 21: 21
    What do people mean by social justice? The people want to live well. Have a decent salary, good job, social elevators, security, freedom and so on. And the fact that someone lives on much larger incomes is something that people don’t really care about. Because he counts the money in his own pockets, not in other people's.
  87. 0
    19 December 2020 00: 27
    in what darkness Russia
  88. 0
    4 January 2021 22: 09
    Yes, we are not talking about any justice at all.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"