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USA, Turkey or Putin: world media discuss who is to blame for the war in Karabakh

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The armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh is today in the center of attention not only of Russian, Armenian and Azerbaijani, but also of the world media. Different countries look at the essence of the new Armenian-Azerbaijani war and its prospects differently.


The Chinese edition of Sohu quoted the point of view of retired American admiral James Stavridis. 2009 to 2013 James Stavridis was the commander-in-chief of NATO forces in Europe, so the opinion of the 65-year-old expert is really worth listening to. Stavridis stated that, according to the forecasts of the American intelligence, Armenia is very likely to become the winner in the armed conflict. In the admiral's opinion, during his service as NATO commander-in-chief in Europe, the Azerbaijani army has repeatedly struck at Armenian positions, and the Armenians have always been able to successfully repel these attacks.

On the whole, the Chinese press tries to remain neutral in its assessments, as do its readers. However, one should not forget that China has its own problems with the Uyghurs, who are Turks and Muslims, like Azerbaijanis, and who are also supported by Turkey.

Deutsche Welle, like many other European media outlets, also declares neutrality, but warns against outside interference in the conflict. Obviously, this is a "stone in the garden" of Turkey, whose policy of President Recep Erdogan is increasingly dissatisfied in the European Union.

The author of the American publication Foreign Affairs Jeffrey Mankoff connects the escalation of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh with the Russian-Turkish confrontation. In his opinion, the interests of Russia and Turkey contradict each other in Syria and Libya, and now they clash in the Transcaucasus. Moscow and Ankara will use the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict to sort out relations with each other and fight for spheres of influence.

The Saudi newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat views the situation in Transcaucasia from similar positions - as a Russian-Turkish confrontation. As the newspaper emphasizes, the Russian base in Gyumri, located in close proximity to the Turkish border, has long been an eyesore for Recep Erdogan. At the same time, only Russia, the author of the Saudi edition believes, is capable of restraining Erdogan's ambitions in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Resalat publication from Iran sees US policy as the main reason for the new aggravation of the Armenian-Azerbaijani contradictions. The war in the Transcaucasus, according to the publication, fits well with Washington's plans to constantly destabilize the situation in the Middle East and Central Asia.

One cannot but rejoice in the presence of sensible authors and publications in Turkey itself. So, Yusuf Karatash from Evrensel criticizes the Turkish authorities for cooperation with Syrian jihadists and supports the version that militants are being transferred from Idlib to the Transcaucasus with the direct participation of Turkey.

Bulgarians have long-standing scores with Turkey. Therefore, the audience of Bulgarian publications as a whole does not hide their sympathy for the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh. So, the readers of the "Dnevnik" edition believe: the war in the Transcaucasus is an action planned by Erdogan:

Another conflict provoked by the Turks. I am sure the Armenians will teach the Azerbaijanis a good lesson,

- writes one of the readers of the Bulgarian edition.

However, among the Bulgarian audience there are also “frostbitten” liberals-Westernizers who blame Putin for everything. For example, someone Corky writes:

Armenians will sacrifice their lives for the sake of Gazprom's interests.
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  1. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 3 October 2020 14: 20
    +8
    those who are to blame ... who came to power on the Maidan path (and of course who stood behind them on the Maidan path) instead of stabilization ... began to make a lot of bold statements about their importance and independence ... spitting on the fragile peace in the region and how it was difficult to freeze the conflict and reach agreements ... but now of course they will find ... who it is ... Russia ... Turkey or another country ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 October 2020 14: 24
      +8
      Quote: silberwolf88
      now of course they will find ... who it is ... Russia ... Turkey or another country


      That's just Russia, to those involved in escalating confrontation, there is no need to drag ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 3 October 2020 14: 27
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        But only Russia, to those involved in escalating the confrontation, does not need to be dragged along ...

        And without us they will drag in without any evidence
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 October 2020 14: 38
          +5
          The Americans are muddying the waters. In vain or something, on the eve of the conflict, the US Embassies in Azerbaijan and Armenia simultaneously warned their citizens not to travel to the border area and Karabakh itself. We did not quite work out with Belarus, so we entered from the south. The adversaries now want to start a war on the southern border of Russia.
          1. hrych
            hrych 3 October 2020 14: 58
            +8
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            The Americans are muddying the waters.

            Do not sin on them for nothing, your sins, and so they have enough. Here, on the contrary, Armenia's path to NATO has slowed down, and the influence of the Russian Federation has increased. Pashinyan calls Putin. Of course, he calls Macron, who is so concerned that caviar does not fit into his mouth. And they say the shelling and the downed plane, they say, hey, the Russian OBKB, let's fight ... No, the Soros guys fight yourself, but it will be bad at all, then contact us, but don't even come up without the recognition of the Russian Crimea wassat There is a reason to use Caliber on the advanced units of the AzR, they say there are Syrian terrorists, Aliyev will say thanks himself wassat
            1. Alena-Baku
              Alena-Baku 3 October 2020 15: 10
              -6
              Armenians insisted that they fought alone without weapons with Azerbaijan, Turks, Avgans, Chechens, Pakistan, etc. in fact, Russians fought instead of them. But for the recognition on the world stage, Russia is powerless, it can be seen from the Crimea, and the cunning Armenians decided to change the vector towards America. If not Putin the plan would have gone right but Putin is on his mind. During Gorbatov and Yeltsin's time, one could sacrifice the interests of Russia for a bottle of vodka. Despite the Armenian roots of the Prime Minister or Lavrov and all high-ranking Armenians in the state structures and media, Putin will not shake.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 October 2020 15: 40
                -1
                It should be borne in mind that despite the fact that the presidents of Russia, the United States and France have already issued a joint statement on the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh, in which they sharply condemned the escalation of violence, called for an end to hostilities and the resumption of peace talks, an armed conflict - WAR - everything is happening. at the very borders of the Russian Federation!
                And of these representatives of the Minsk Group, this WAR is the most disadvantageous only for Russia in comparison with the USA and France.
                Moreover, at the same time, neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia demonstrate any particular readiness for negotiations.
                But Erdogan himself calls the desire of the Minsk Group for a cease-fire UNACCEPTABLE. The conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh is most beneficial for Erdogan himself, who does not care about the UN, the EU, or the US. His enemy is Russia.

                Evening with Vladimir Solovyov from 01.10.2020
                [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = cZ-IL99O9eY]
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 3 October 2020 22: 20
                  -1
                  Tatyana, the fact of the matter is that the presidents of the United States and France - who are they on the post-owls. space ?! The Russian Federation has ambitions, but there is no WILL and SPIRIT! You can solve everything in a couple of days! Put in place the fruit color. revolution in Armenia (by analogy with Kyrgyzstan - the Manas base, which was closed and opened by the Russian base Kant) and write a stop to Erdogan's ambitions. hi
            2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 October 2020 15: 10
              0
              There is a clear trace of the Americans here, since they knew in advance that a conflict was brewing. And they knew about the conflict, because they themselves influenced it. If Russia is unable to separate the warring parties, then the CSTO will again look like a stillborn treaty and the interests of our country can be neglected.
              1. hrych
                hrych 3 October 2020 15: 36
                +5
                Well no. Armenia did not recognize the NKR itself. The NKR is not included in the CSTO. The Sorosians wanted to change our base to the American one, and even the process began. They began to spit on the media and organize anti-Russian pickets. On the contrary, if nothing had happened. then they would ask us in a year ... Karabakh people have already suffered from barrage ammunition in 2016, but instead of drawing conclusions, stopping the threat and arming themselves with this, they organized a maidan. They were not going to fight at all, but to lie under the West. There was not enough time for this. Well, who said that Russia will not interfere. It will intervene, but when necessary. Trust the Commander, he knows what to do. laughing
                1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 October 2020 15: 43
                  +1
                  I hope that the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan will end as soon as possible.
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 3 October 2020 16: 32
                0
                Well, yes, did the Americans do everything to get the pro-American Pashinyan to spit on them and start calling Moscow? Seriously? lol
                Everything turned out so that no one cares about Pashinyan and Armenia.
                Neither Macron, nor Trump, nor Putin.
                So the war began. Nobody for the world fit in.
                Everyone has their own reasons for this.
                Whatever they say out loud.
                1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 October 2020 16: 43
                  +1
                  I do not want to repeat myself, but the fact that the ears and noses of the Americans are sticking out behind these events is for sure.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 3 October 2020 16: 56
                    0
                    Just got an expert opinion.
                    https://topcor.ru/16693-kedmi-rossija-v-karabahskom-konflikte-dolzhna-dobitsja-dvuh-celej.html?yrwinfo=1601732789529353-1716330989330571213600217-production-app-host-sas-web-yp-169
                    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                      Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 October 2020 17: 04
                      +1
                      Why did the events in Belarus and Transcaucasia occur almost immediately one after another ??? What indicates that right now the Americans are not involved in the conflict ??? Who else needs a war in the south of Russia's borders ???
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 3 October 2020 23: 16
                        0
                        Kedmi, whom I respect, has well stated what I originally "sketched out with strokes."
                        The states do not impose sanctions against Belarus. Doesn't it surprise you?
                        They are not interested in anything at all now except their elections.
                        First, since 2012, a joint statement of the Presidents of Russia and the United States was signed on the need to end the war in Karabakh! What else does?
                      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                        Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 October 2020 07: 29
                        0
                        Why do you trust the Americans so much ??? They often disagree with their words and actions.
                      3. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 October 2020 12: 16
                        0
                        Where did you find my trust in the Americans?
                        Kedmi, although an Israeli, does not trust them either. Absolutely.
              3. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 3 October 2020 19: 50
                +2
                Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
                I do not want to repeat myself, but the fact that the ears and noses of the Americans are sticking out behind these events is for sure.

                Is not a fact. Not for that mattresses in Armenia, the largest embassy in the entire post-Soviet space, was planted to close it ahead of schedule and bury the invested funds, if they are ready to strangle themselves for a dollar. The Turks may well be the instigators of this mess, both in terms of pressure on the United States because they support the Kurds, and in terms of the fact that they can put pressure on Russia because of the position on Syria and Libya. There, mattresses for Greece fit in because of Turkish inclinations in search of hydrocarbons in the economic zone of Greece and threaten to mumble their base in Greece in defiance of Turkish interests. As the traditions of recent times show, Edik will most likely have to try a shitty snack and get away, but nevertheless, he will have time to spoil the weather in the region for several years in advance, definitely.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 October 2020 14: 38
      +4
      USA, Turkey or Putin
      The first two are to blame: the USA is in Armenia, Turkey is in Azerbaijan!
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 3 October 2020 15: 15
    +2
    Quote: silberwolf88
    those are to blame ...

    I remembered the saying: "Pans are fighting, the forelocks of slaves are cracking." While Aliyev and Pashinyan are making statements, soldiers are dying from both sides. The only question is whether they will be able to solve the assigned tasks, or "everything will return to normal?"
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 3 October 2020 16: 17
      +5
      Colleagues, all this is the notorious "Anaconda" plan. The essence of which is to surround the Russian Federation with gos.vami with puppet regimes and ignite the entire perimeter of the borders of the Russian Federation with constant conflicts. Thus, scattering the attention, forces and means of the Russian Federation to secondary strikes. RF is in a position of constant tension, as it is constantly in the role of the defender.
      And I, perhaps all the same, already, I agree with those who believe that it is time for the Russian Federation to go on the offensive and take what belongs to it. Otherwise, you can simply predict where it will blaze in a circle: in the Donbass, or Transnistria, maybe in Azov, or in the Black Sea region.
  • iouris
    iouris 3 October 2020 14: 23
    0
    The best German of the XNUMXth century, the winner of the Shnobel Peace Prize, is to blame. Today Nemetchina celebrates the GDR Anschluss and prepares for Drang nach Osten.
  • Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 3 October 2020 14: 36
    -8
    Democracy is to blame, depending on the votes of voters, the Armenian lobby varies well and politicians make a clean decision that does not meet the interests of his country for the sake of votes. In Russia, Azerbaijanis mainly trade with their petty deception and ignorance can cause antipathy, but this is not a fatal sin, but the Armenians have long been wedged in state structures and are engaged in cutting the budget and are pressured to make a decision on Karabakh based on the benefits of Armenia and not Russia.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 4 October 2020 04: 00
      -1
      Don't write nonsense. The Azerbaijani lobby in Russia is also quite strong. Look at Russian Forbes? How many people come from you. And your ambassador also surprises me. How old is he in this rank? 30 years old? Still, he cannot part with Moscow property.
      1. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 4 October 2020 09: 08
        -3
        nonsense, such ignorant people as you write, the Azerbaijani diaspora was closed last year because of the allegedly expired documentation. If the diaspora of 2 million Azerbaijanis is closed, then it is not so strong.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 4 October 2020 09: 57
          0
          Alekperov and LUKoil were also closed? Was one of the owners of Moscow City Nishanov also closed? That you, that the Armenians are lovers of fluff on themselves.
          1. Alena-Baku
            Alena-Baku 4 October 2020 11: 17
            -1
            your arguments against the closure of the diaspora are ridiculous, it is not profitable to touch Alekperov, he replenishes the treasury, and he also has more Russian blood than Azerbaijani, only his father's grandfather is Azerbaijani, Russian grandmothers, Russian mother, Russian wife. The same is with Nisanov, he is a Jew and Jews are behind him and their business is not tied to state money, which means they replenish the budget, unlike the Armenians who are involved in government agencies and saw the budget. Nisanov benefits Azerbaijan more than Alekperov.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 3 October 2020 14: 36
    +3
    ... In his opinion, the interests of Russia and Turkey contradict each other in Syria and Libya, and now they collided in the Transcaucasus ...

    And when did these interests coincide? The short time of the Napoleonic Wars? And then the Turks managed to "surprise" with their allied duty ...
    Armenia. Azerbaijan.
    They left the USSR ... Now they are independent, self-sufficient ...
    Now they have started a war with each other. Should Russia reconcile them ..? Must! (in my opinion) Because there is no one else. Because everyone doesn't care. It doesn't matter whether Armenians or Azerbaijanis are dying ... Only Russia is able to put out this conflict. I really hope that Putin and Lavrov will become effective peacekeepers in this situation.
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 3 October 2020 14: 48
      +1
      But first, both sides will thoroughly clear their brains. The world is useless right now.
    2. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 3 October 2020 15: 38
      +1
      Russia has long been dear to anyone and owes nothing ... this prostitution is enough ... YOURSELF means now EVERYTHING YOURSELF ...
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 3 October 2020 14: 44
    +4
    Yes, it is already clear that Putin sent two columns directly from the Kremlin - one to Yerevan, the second to Baku, as a result - the war.
    The United States is to blame for organizing another Maidan in Yerevan, which led to the practical withdrawal of Armenia from the CSTO, and then forcing out all its positions in the region. A holy place is never empty - Erdogan climbed on it, and it makes no sense for Russia to help the anti-Russian Pashinyans. It is necessary that they clearly understand at whose expense they are still alive!
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 3 October 2020 14: 48
    -5
    USA, Turkey or Putin: world media discuss who is to blame for the war in Karabakh
    Armenians. "Can we live here a little? Thank you. Who are you! We have grandma, grandma zhYl. This is all ours." Well, if yours. Protect and fight yourself. Nagorno-Karabakh is not a mono region. to draw a spider web! That the head would spin. And in the early 90th the Armenians decided that all of them. Have fun. Just don't yell that it hurts. And Russia owes you something. Or select Nagorno-Karabakh as a separate country. Well, or fight. I don't listen I want to defend that pile of stones. There is no one of mine.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 3 October 2020 14: 50
    +5
    The Armenian leadership is to blame for not being able to negotiate with Azerbaijan diplomatically, since Armenia has no legal rights to NPOs, here the truth is on the side of Azerbaijan, Pashinyan will try to drag the Russian Federation into the conflict on his side, provocations are possible against our military personnel in Gyumri, but if Azerbaijan will cross the state border with Armenia, then it will be regarded as an attack on a CSTO member with all the ensuing consequences
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 3 October 2020 15: 58
      +1
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      if Azerbaijan crosses the state border with Armenia, it will be regarded as an attack on a CSTO member with all the ensuing consequences

      Here you are right, while they are fighting in the NKR (and this is the territory of Azerbaijan), the CSTO will not interfere, but if it crosses the border with Armenia, then the CSTO will have to be reconciled.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 3 October 2020 21: 33
      0
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      Pashinyan will try to drag the Russian Federation into the conflict on his side, provocations are possible against our servicemen in Gyumri,

      I think the Armenians can go to the blockade of our WB in Gyumri ... the SA has already passed this throughout the Transcaucasia, when the local population was dispersed in the SA ...
      The Armenians won that Karabakh war for the most part thanks to the Russian Federation ... but they no longer remember this, a whole generation has grown up ...
      The military-political leadership of the Russian Federation has long needed to make an inventory of all foreign policy ties with the CIS countries, each former republic should have its own individual approach ... otherwise they signed an Agreement with Armenia on military assistance right up to 2044, and what will happen in a year Armenia, we do not calculate ... then we appear for the "Soros" who came to power ....
      IRI is now the only assistant to Armenia, most likely it will demand something from the Russian Federation later, than we will pay at the risk of falling out with Israeli Jews, it’s even scary to think about it, and this despite the fact that we are still the “Little Shaitan” for IRI ...
      The IRI will have to pay the Russian Federation for aid to Armenia today, but what positions of the Russian Federation after the end of the conflict will be unknown in Armenia ...
      It is unlikely that Armenia will forgive the Russian Federation for the loss of Karabakh and, whenever the opportunity arises, it will always remind the Russian Federation of this ...
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 3 October 2020 15: 46
    -1
    "Churchill invented it all,
    at age 18. "
    V.S. Vysotsky
  • Kapkan
    Kapkan 3 October 2020 16: 04
    0
    For example, someone Corky writes:

    I immediately remembered a character from the movie "Night Administrator". His orientation was dubious.
  • Mayor lee
    Mayor lee 3 October 2020 16: 27
    0
    Some pro-Armenian comments
    1. Kapkan
      Kapkan 3 October 2020 16: 36
      +2
      Well, what were you hoping for? I do not like them. But! I will never believe that a small (in number) mono-ethnic people attack their territory under their protectorate. It's funny.
      Or that, a screaming undersultan, not enough, that he is on the side of Azerbaijan and that the Armenians need to be pressed until they surrender should convince me that the truth is behind the Azeris? It's even funnier.
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 3 October 2020 17: 53
      +3
      I will write pro-Azerbaijani)
      Legally, Azerbaijan is at war on its territory, the ownership of which is not disputed even by Armenia, not recognizing the NKR. Plus, hostilities are conducted mainly not even in NKR, but in the occupied regions of Azerbaijan itself. Looking at the map of military operations, it looks like the Ayzers decided to cut off the NKR from Armenia by blows from the north and south, which, in my stupidity, they do not have such an advantage
      And the conditions for war are the sweetest, of course, in Yerevan there is a little magpie, shitting on Russia, abandoning the very process of negotiations, even a formal one with Ayzerbajan. Aliyev could not cut it here. The queue to save Armenians is somehow not visible in the world, precisely because of the mediocre position of the Armenian leadership itself
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 3 October 2020 20: 24
        +1
        Quote: Pissarro
        in Yerevan there is a little magpie, shitting on Russia, abandoning the very process of negotiations, even a formal one with Ayzerbadzhan ... The queue to save Armenians is somehow not visible in the world,

        Sorosenko hoped to drag Russia into the war with Turkey. And he received an agreed statement from the presidents of Russia, the United States and France for an immediate ceasefire and for the resumption of negotiations. As you rightly noted - "The queue to save the Armenians is somehow not visible in the world." hi
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 3 October 2020 16: 58
    0
    I think Erdogan hopes, if Moscow intervenes in the conflict, to put pressure on the Kremlin with the help of the Turkish Stream. The only thing that he does not take into account is that the Kremlin, if necessary, can block the South Caucasian gas pipeline. I think that in this particular situation Moscow has a free hand for more decisive action, unlike the same Libya, for example. By the way, in the event of an armed clash with Azerbaijan, LUKoil could be squeezed out on the sly. Additional petrodollars would not hurt the budget now ...
  • Kapkan
    Kapkan 3 October 2020 17: 33
    +1
    Here is great analytics!
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 3 October 2020 22: 12
      0
      Quote: Kapkan
      Here is great analytics!

      In what it is wonderful that the author of the video invites Russian soldiers to carry chestnuts out of the fire for Armenians and Azerbaijanis ...
      Judging by the author's historical excursion, RI recaptured Karabakh from the Persians, which then went to the Azerbaijanis for free, then the Armenians recaptured it from the Azerbaijanis, and now the Azerbaijanis want to return it ...
      I offer Iran to take back Karabakh, and who will be cut out there and who will live there, let it be decided in Tehran ...
      I think the Russian Federation of Karabakh alone in the form of Abkhazia alone is enough ...

      Yes, the author is not aware of the solution of the Karabakh problem, twice Armenia and Azerbaijan were ready to agree on this topic, first according to the American plan, then according to the Russian - the exchange of territories and the holding of a referendum in 50 years in the NKR ...
  • svoit
    svoit 3 October 2020 19: 01
    0
    Quote: Pissarro
    The queue to save Armenians is somehow not visible in the world, precisely because of the mediocre position of the Armenian leadership itself

    Do you really not understand that whoever saves (or pretends) will put the "leadership" that he wants?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 4 October 2020 04: 58
    0
    Quote: Alena-Baku
    Armenians insisted that they fought alone without weapons with Azerbaijan, Turks, Avgans, Chechens, Pakistan, etc. in fact, Russians fought instead of them. But for the recognition on the world stage, Russia is powerless, it can be seen from the Crimea, and the cunning Armenians decided to change the vector towards America. If not Putin the plan would have gone right but Putin is on his mind. During Gorbatov and Yeltsin's time, one could sacrifice the interests of Russia for a bottle of vodka. Despite the Armenian roots of the Prime Minister or Lavrov and all high-ranking Armenians in the state structures and media, Putin will not shake.

    Itself, I realized that I "scribbled" !!! ???
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  • NF68
    NF68 4 October 2020 16: 06
    0
    And here the GDP is to blame.