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The Pentagon announced the loss of the "inaccessibility" of the United States due to Russian submarines

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The Pentagon announced the loss of the "inaccessibility" of the United States due to Russian submarines

The modernization of Russian submarine forces has resulted in the United States losing its "inaccessibility." This was stated by the commander of the submarine forces of the US Navy, Vice Admiral Daryl Caudle, writes Business Insider.


According to the commander, despite the fact that the Russian fleet there are fewer submarines than the Soviet Union had; Russia has modern, quieter, more autonomous nuclear submarines capable of striking ground targets.

Our country is no longer out of reach, so we must be prepared to conduct high-level operations in local waters

- declared admiral.

Michael Petersen, director of the Russian Naval Research Institute at the US Naval War College, said the United States needs to prepare for submarine war as soon as possible, since Russia has already demonstrated its Caliber cruise missiles, striking targets on land from submarines.

Earlier, Vice Admiral Andrew Woody Lewis said that the United States had lost its undisputed dominance in the Atlantic due to Russian submarines.

Moscow uses technology with more lethal weapons systems, which makes it increasingly difficult to prepare the American fleet for various operations. (...) outside of the main naval base of the Atlantic Fleet, the US Navy feels insecure

- quotes his words edition.
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  1. Bykov.
    Bykov. 2 October 2020 10: 49
    11
    Earlier, Vice Admiral Andrew Woody Lewis said that the United States had lost its undisputed dominance in the Atlantic due to Russian submarines.

    Nice to hear that.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 2 October 2020 10: 54
      +8
      outside the main naval base of the Atlantic Fleet, the US Navy, the military feel insecure


      but I liked this moment. Nothing, stress is good.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 2 October 2020 11: 06
        11
        Earlier, Vice Admiral Andrew Woody Lewis said that the United States had lost its undisputed dominance in the Atlantic due to Russian submarines.

        Deep down to Washington
        "Poseidon" sneaks quietly! yes
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 2 October 2020 13: 03
          +3
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Deep down to Washington

          Greetings, Alexander. hi
          By the way about Washington. In 1812, when Napoleon was destroying Moscow, the British destroyed Washington to its core.
        2. georg 2
          georg 2 6 October 2020 13: 30
          +1
          While the sides are supported by the "Uncle Sam" with the trident of Neptune,
          Russia will easily solve international problems.
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 2 October 2020 10: 54
      15
      Quote: Bulls.
      Earlier, Vice Admiral Andrew Woody Lewis said that the United States had lost its undisputed dominance in the Atlantic due to Russian submarines.

      Nice to hear that.

      You just need money. If he starts broadcasting that the forces subordinate to him can defend themselves against any danger, then they may not throw a share in the military budget (or even cut it down altogether). Therefore, the military always "observe an increasing danger" and no matter what.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 3 October 2020 08: 57
        0
        For "money" they don't need to make any claims. To do this, they have people in Congress who receive bribes from the military-industrial complex.
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 2 October 2020 11: 03
      +7
      The United States needs to prepare for submarine war as soon as possible, as Russia has already demonstrated its Caliber cruise missiles, launching submarine strikes against targets on land.

      And they still have festive confetti on their submarines with Trident missiles in warheads!
      The Americans seem to be fighting only I have a tenfold or more advantage, heroes!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 11: 22
        +8
        Quote: Starover_Z
        The Americans seem to be fighting only I have ten or more times the advantage, heroes!

        I looked at the statistics of the balance of forces on US operations in World War II. It was far from always that a tenfold advantage was obtained, but this was exactly what they strove for.

        And the funniest thing happened with the "liberation of the Japanese-occupied" island of Kiska (Operation Cottage). 7800 gallant American guys against 0 Japanese. They also managed to suffer "combat" losses - 103 killed, 230 wounded and a destroyer. 424 tons of bombs, 330 tons of shells and as a result "captured" a dozen dogs thrown by the Japanese. And until the end of the war, "just in case" they kept a garrison of 108 thousand there. A great victory!
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 2 October 2020 12: 52
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I looked at the statistics of the balance of forces on US operations in World War II. It was far from always that a tenfold advantage was obtained, but this was exactly what they strove for.

          And they did the right thing. There is no need to turn war into battles of the trueborn. smile You can ensure superiority - do it.
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And the funniest thing happened with the "liberation of the Japanese-occupied" island of Kiska (Operation Cottage). 7800 gallant American guys against 0 Japanese.

          Better this way than "troops have landed, no connection", and then - "we have no information about the landing, the personnel are considered missing".
          At the same time, the Yankees trained in conditions as close as possible to combat. smile
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 14: 02
            +1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            At the same time, the Yankees trained in conditions as close as possible to combat.

            The laughter is that they trained in advance on one of the neighboring islands. And here - a full-fledged operation. By the way, in Normandy, 156 thousand went to German pillboxes, and here, until the end of the war, 108 thousand "holiday-makers" rested on the territory two times less than, for example, Voronezh.
        2. Fizik M
          Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 54
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And the funniest thing happened with the "liberation of the Japanese-occupied" island of Kiska (Operation Cottage). 7800 gallant American guys versus 0 Japanese

          better read about Midway
      2. Kart
        Kart 2 October 2020 12: 12
        +3
        Quote: Starover_Z
        And they still have festive confetti on their submarines with Trident missiles in warheads!

        This is another! ©
        Obviously, the same American missiles bring only democracy, peace and prosperity to the United States.
        And ours, on the contrary, is death, devastation and humiliation of the United States.
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 11: 13
      +5
      Quote: Bulls.
      Earlier, Vice Admiral Andrew Woody Lewis said that the United States had lost its undisputed dominance in the Atlantic due to Russian submarines.

      Nice to hear that.

      And again, the American generals praise Russia will boil down to "Give money for new submarines."
    5. Doccor18
      Doccor18 2 October 2020 12: 34
      +4
      If your mortal enemy praises you, then either everything is bad with you, or vigilance puts you to sleep ...
      1. Fizik M
        Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 55
        +2
        Quote: Doccor18
        If your mortal enemy praises you, then either everything is bad with you, or vigilance puts you to sleep ...

        Exactly!
    6. Fizik M
      Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 53
      +2
      Quote: Bulls.
      Nice to hear that.

      he stupidly LIES to you
      more precisely "hangs noodles" GDP
  2. novel66
    novel66 2 October 2020 10: 55
    +6
    and the Strategic Missile Forces are not a decree to them, chtoli?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 2 October 2020 10: 55
      +7
      they are in the sea, they are. wassat
      other branches of the armed forces feel insecure from the Strategic Missile Forces
      1. novel66
        novel66 2 October 2020 10: 56
        +7
        so, it will fly over the ground, where to moor later? lol
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 2 October 2020 11: 03
          +5
          Quote: novel xnumx
          where to moor later?

          What for? Remembering the classics laughing


        2. Galleon
          Galleon 2 October 2020 11: 07
          +4
          They sit at the reactor, are not limited by anything. Got a stroke and 3 weeks later in New Zealand.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 2 October 2020 11: 15
            +4
            Which was washed away 4 weeks ago)
            1. Kart
              Kart 2 October 2020 12: 15
              +4
              Neville Shute "On the Last Shore"
              https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=177215&p=1
              The book is just for those who like to fight with Russia with nuclear weapons.
              1. beeper
                beeper 2 October 2020 15: 02
                +1
                Quote: Carte
                Neville Shute "On the Last Shore"
                https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=177215&p=1
                The book is just for those who like to fight with Russia with nuclear weapons.

                hi Thanks, aka Kart good , for the book, so nothing, curious, good translation, easy to read! yes
            2. orionvitt
              orionvitt 2 October 2020 13: 31
              +1
              No one will bomb Africa. In this, the blacks are smarter, they do not climb into big politics. laughing There will be a second colonization.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 October 2020 11: 06
      -2
      Quote: novel xnumx
      and the Strategic Missile Forces are not a decree to them, chtoli?

      -Not sniff yet
      Hi hi
      1. novel66
        novel66 2 October 2020 11: 26
        -2
        there are better things not to try! hi! hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 2 October 2020 11: 41
          -1
          They even need
    3. nnm
      nnm 2 October 2020 11: 36
      +4
      Another general will ask for money for the Strategic Missile Forces. Something like "after commissioning" Sarmat "and" Vanguard "the United States will lose their inaccessibility ..."
  3. Bez 310
    Bez 310 2 October 2020 11: 02
    +5
    Do not flatter yourself!
    The meaning of such statements has long been known -
    obtaining additional funding.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 2 October 2020 11: 13
      +3
      that's for sure .. they are for the loot, at least they will tell about the upcoming invasion of the Martians .. that would not be Russia, what would they scare everyone .. no .. they really need us ...
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 October 2020 12: 56
      0
      Quote: Bez 310
      Do not flatter yourself!
      The meaning of such statements has long been known -
      obtaining additional funding.

      Aha ... before that, the leadership of the freshly restored Second Fleet talked about the superiority of the Russians and the inadequacy of the forces available to the fleet. It all ended with traditional requests strengthen and deepen it is the Second Fleet, as standing at the forefront of the defense of democracy.
    3. Fizik M
      Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 56
      +1
      Quote: Bez 310
      The meaning of such statements has long been known -
      obtaining additional funding.

      Not only
      there are also frank information actions regarding our VLOOKUP
      see, for example, their company about the "super-navy of Chirkov", when under Chirkov "the chair swayed" - its purpose was clearly VVP (to give him noodles)
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 12
    +3
    The Pentagon announced the loss of the "inaccessibility" of the United States due to Russian submarines

    Come on ... besides boats, there are convincing arguments! Just tell me, your admiral wants the fleet to be inflated \ build to incredible values ​​!!! and all the same, from retribution, if anything, IT WILL NOT SAVE !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 October 2020 12: 24
      +3
      So it is, but our boats give them big problems with finding and tracking ...
      Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 October 2020 12: 45
        +1
        Hi soldier
        The ocean is large, but the search engines, the opportunities, the minke whales have serious ... and we do not have many boats, especially, there is nothing to cover, there is nothing to protect them. With the ocean-going fleet, we now have NO AH !.
        All the same, in total, our vigorous potential covers all possible tasks! And how many times the enemy's territory will be plowed is not essential, and once is enough.
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 October 2020 12: 48
          +2
          So they used to pick their noses, but now they have to work. There are few boats - yes, but this is fixable ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 October 2020 12: 52
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            There are few boats - yes, but this is fixable ...

            Everything is fixable, when someone eats who decides to fix everything, there is someone who can fix everything.
            1. cniza
              cniza 2 October 2020 12: 55
              +2
              And this, no matter how pompous it sounds, depends on us too, I think it's fixable ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 2 October 2020 13: 28
                +1
                There are different opinions ... I am an optimist - a pessimist! depending on your mood.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 2 October 2020 13: 32
                  +2
                  Whatever it was, but in difficult times everyone had to get together and decide what was not decided ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 2 October 2020 13: 54
                    +1
                    Now there is no real EVERYTHING, there are them and we ...
                    I don't know what needs to happen for the situation to change.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 2 October 2020 17: 35
                      +2
                      The trouble must happen big, but better not ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 2 October 2020 18: 08
                        +1
                        What's the big trouble? You can not talk about a "hot" war, you can not ... a universal pestilence or a flood? Moreover, the invasion of aliens can be presented as a global factor.
                        For more / less I have NO.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 2 October 2020 18: 10
                        +2
                        Not necessarily the war has enough natural disasters and others, but again, better not. We will have to solve these problems, otherwise they will strangle us, they surround us more and more closely ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 2 October 2020 18: 15
                        +1
                        So I don’t do it myself ... and others don’t want that either.
                        We are all human, human and not immortals, besides!
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 2 October 2020 18: 17
                        +2
                        Here, here, and I still have many plans to be brought to their logical conclusion ...
  • Fizik M
    Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 57
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    So it is, but our boats give them big problems with finding and tracking ...

    there are no big problems
    1. georg 2
      georg 2 6 October 2020 13: 44
      0
      So it is, but our boats give them big problems with finding and tracking ...


      there are no big problems

      "Foundations, Sir Andrew, you must state your grounds ..."
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 October 2020 11: 13
    +4
    Yes, and lost exclusivity - without the Russian vaccine, your presidents there grab the crown)))
    In fact, even the trained Bin Laden was quite up to it.
  • Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 2 October 2020 11: 24
    0
    Their blah blah blah just to justify the increase in the military budget ... listening to the enemy praising you ... such ...
  • Silinvv
    Silinvv 2 October 2020 11: 25
    +1
    Another horror story from the generals, in order to lay even more funds on the budget committee to finance the fleet in 2021 and then cut this money. Especially considering that the American military does not report on the targeted spending of budget funds - they drank as much as you wanted.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 October 2020 11: 26
    0
    Here is a talker bird! "Lost undeniable domination", read uncontested lost, but domination is in place. Jesuit, you understand! laughing
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 October 2020 11: 35
    +2
    In fact, the vice admiral says everything correctly. We are now starting the entry of the Ash into service, they, with all their small numbers, require attention, so strengthening the ASW for the United States is a very timely measure.
    1. Fizik M
      Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 59
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      We are now starting the entry of the Ash into service, they, with all their small number, require attention,

      any SP needs attention
      even DPRK diesel-electric submarines
      just a submarine enemy with whom you cannot "silk with your beak"

      however, the Ash trees themselves do not pose any particular problems for the United States.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 October 2020 11: 47
    +1
    Our country is no longer out of reach, so we should ...
    Therefore, you should not open your mouth to someone else's, not meddle with your "democracy" and not teach how to live. You are not touched and you try not to interfere in the affairs of Russia, much less try to adjust it for yourself. And the most zealous would be nice to remember the historical events associated with the campaigns against Russia (USSR) by those who wanted the same as the United States today.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 October 2020 12: 22
      +1
      But they will never understand this, until they get it ...
  • Paphnutius the Unforgettable
    Paphnutius the Unforgettable 2 October 2020 11: 53
    0
    Well, wow! America discovered!
  • cniza
    cniza 2 October 2020 12: 11
    0
    outside the main naval base of the Atlantic Fleet, the US Navy, the military feel insecure


    Well, here you sit at your bases ...
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 2 October 2020 12: 58
    +1
    Michael Petersen said the United States needs to prepare for submarine war as soon as possible

    But there were completely different pages of relations between the United States and Russia. Only it is unlikely that they remember it in America.
    In 1775, George III asked Catherine to send 20 thousand Russian soldiers to suppress the revolt in America.
    Catherine refused England's request.
    “As agreed in the letter requested, my light,” the Empress informed Potemkin on September 6, “I have now answered the envoy with a complete refusal, having sternly explained that a Russian soldier will never serve under foreign banners. And then to say, my friend, that you are right - why would we help those who are our friends today, but enemies in all our life? "

    Later, in 1863, a Russian squadron under the command of Rear Admiral Andrei Popov arrived at the port of San Francisco to protect the United States from Britain, in the amount of six ships and 1200 officers and sailors.
    A squadron of Rear Admiral Stepan Lesovsky arrived in New York. Six ships and three thousand personnel.
    In the American Civil War, Russia sided with the government in Washington, and such a frank gesture of support confused many of the British cards. They found themselves in the face of a possible military alliance between the US and Russia, which cooled their fervor a little. Lincoln, in turn, was grateful for international support. So the two countries, solving their own problems, united against a common enemy - England, and as a result, both Russia and the United States only benefited from this fleet expedition.

    It may be better to unite once again to finish off the common enemy - Britain.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 October 2020 13: 25
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_6
      It may be better to unite once again to finish off the common enemy - Britain.

      Vladimir, England has long been no longer an enemy of the United States, but is one of its most loyal satellites and allies. Your analogy, excuse me, is lame on all 4 legs.
      In the past you described, the United States fought for its independence, and even in 1863 they were even weaker than England, but they had yet to become the leader of the industrial world. Then what happened happened - England weakened, the United States strengthened and, as a result of WWII, England gave the crown to the ruler of the seas of the United States, and she herself went to secondary roles.
      In other words, the United States won bloodlessly in the fight against England. Without war, the United States became stronger than England economically, and this happened back in the 19th century, after which the transition of the leading role to the United States was only a matter of time. The British were smart and did not resist the inevitable, preferring the "honorable surrender" to the doomed attempts to defend the primacy.
      Accordingly, today there have not been any serious contradictions between the United States and England. But between the Russian Federation and the United States - there is, and these contradictions, in principle, cannot be resolved at the expense of the British.
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 2 October 2020 15: 08
        -1
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Vladimir, England has long been no longer an enemy of the United States, but is one of its most loyal satellites and allies. Your analogy, excuse me, is lame on all 4 legs.

        Andrey, on all fours, excuse me, your knowledge of relations between the United States and England is lame.
        Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama - promoted to the presidency of the United States by London bankers, the owners of the Fed, and served their interests. When John F. Kennedy encroached on the freedom and independence of the FRS (the issue of real AMERICAN money in denominations of 2 and 5 dollars), he instantly departed to another world.
        The owners of the printing press are in London, and who is the loyal satellite and ally to whom is still a question.
        Accordingly, today there have not been any serious contradictions between the United States and England.

        Recent events in the United States contradict your conclusions. The brutal press of Trump, who said that he is fighting the "deep state" is evidence of this.
        The half-dead Biden is being promoted by a team that focuses on London.
        But between the Russian Federation and the United States - there is, and these contradictions, in principle, cannot be resolved at the expense of the British.

        If Trump succeeds in throwing off the yoke of the power of the "deep state" and winning the elections, then in his second term, completely different relations between Russia and the United States will be built.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 October 2020 16: 09
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Andrey, on all fours, excuse me, your knowledge of relations between the United States and England is lame.

          Really? :)))
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama - promoted to the presidency of the United States by London bankers, owners of the Fed, and served their interests.

          I'm sorry, but it's not even conspiracy theories. This is even worse.
          The Fed founded Hamilton - one of the heroes of the struggle for US independence. I will not tell her story, it is too long, I will just restrict myself to reminding that it was American bankers + representatives of the US government who ruled the Fed. The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is appointed by none other than the President of the United States, and the Senate approves the appointment. To say that some London bankers are telling him is about the same as claiming that he is being led by reptilians from Nibiru.
          In fact, the British financial system was weaker than the American one even before WWII, and in WWII it simply collapsed. The United States was stronger in literally everything, including in capital, and dictated its vision of the world - including in the financial part. No "London bankers" had any financial or any other resources that could enable them to influence the United States. Any US president, even if he was brought to the elections by "London bankers" could easily throw them out and forget
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          When John F. Kennedy encroached on the freedom and independence of the FRS (the issue of real AMERICAN money in denominations of 2 and 5 dollars), he instantly departed to another world.

          You are greatly mistaken. This conspiracy theory is built around the fact that Kenedy allowed his 11110 to issue the US Treasury silver certificates "real American dollars" :))) Alas, the creators of this theory do not know that the US Treasury issued them before Kennedy (from 1862) and issued them and after Kennedy (last time - in 1966) and the famous Executive Order No. 11110 just returned the US Treasury this right ... which Kennedy took away :))))))))))))
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Recent events in the United States contradict your conclusions. The brutal press of Trump, who said that he is fighting the "deep state" is evidence of this.

          there is no fierce struggle :)))))) Actually. it's not even a cruel chatter
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 2 October 2020 16: 27
            0
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            there is no fierce struggle :))))))

            We'll see it in November.
            In general, my first post is about a different level of relations between the United States and Russia, which were in the past.
            The last phrase, "It might be better to unite once more to finish off the common enemy - Britain.", On which you focused your attention, is secondary.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 October 2020 16: 48
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              In general, my first post is about a different level of relations between the United States and Russia, which were in the past.

              Alas, the United States was not yet a superpower, and neither were we. But the intersection of interests with the British was with them and with us. There was a common field for joint action. Today ... he's gone
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 2 October 2020 19: 36
                +1
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Alas, the United States was not yet a superpower, and neither were we. But the intersection of interests with the British was with them and with us. There was a common field for joint action. Today ... he's gone

                As far as the United States is concerned, my posts can be said to be wishful thinking. This is so, because there is a premonition of what this will be. For me, Britain is an enemy, and China is not a friend.
                And how it will actually be, only God knows. hi
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 October 2020 23: 24
                  +1
                  Well, in any case, it was nice to talk to! hi
                  1. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 3 October 2020 08: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Well, in any case, it was nice to talk to!

                    Mutually Andrey! drinks Your post on the Fed and Order 11110 has been helpful. I rummaged in the internet, read a lot of interesting additions. hi
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 October 2020 14: 47
                      0
                      Always happy to help. Often I myself learn a lot from such dialogues. drinks
  • zwlad
    zwlad 2 October 2020 13: 37
    0
    Hmm. How can you lose something that never happened.
  • Sailor
    Sailor 2 October 2020 14: 18
    +1
    I read and am amazed at what 8 nuclear submarines (including Boreyev for two fleets) can do against 50 nuclear submarines, not counting "friends".
  • Dart
    Dart 2 October 2020 20: 54
    0
    "Institute for the Study of Russian Naval Forces at the US Naval College" - and we have similar institutions, ts. , alaverdi?
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 2 October 2020 21: 17
    +1
    "... outside the main naval base of the Atlantic Fleet of the US Navy, the military feels insecure"
    Well Duc for this, our defense industry and is making every possible effort.
    Otherwise, the meaning of our work? ...
  • Fizik M
    Fizik M 3 October 2020 14: 52
    +1
    this statement is nothing more than an element of information warfare (the report of the "US Navy Intelligence on the Russian Navy" a couple of years ago is from the same category). It is stupid to "hang noodles", incl. our VLOOKUP.
    Sensitive to realities:

    https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html

    https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html