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Awaiting compensation and permission for subsidies: Poland pledged to the EU to close all coal mines and set a deadline

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The Polish media publish materials that the country's coal industry will face new and new difficulties in the near future. This is due to the so-called climate program of the European Union, on the basis of which, in the next 30 years, the EU countries should completely switch to the use of renewable energy sources.


According to the program, by 2050 the European Union should become “climate neutral”. This wording can be interpreted like this: the EU should minimize emissions into the atmosphere and, in fact, refuse to use such raw materials as oil and oil products, as well as coal. At the same time, it is planned to reduce the use of natural gas.

Such plans are not supported by all EU countries. One of the opponents is Poland, which still has a developed coal industry. At the same time, it is important that Warsaw actually had to support the "climate" European directive under promises from Brussels to compensate for the losses.

Now Poland expects from Brussels guarantees of compensation for losses. For compensation, in particular, the Poles attribute the need for payments from the EU to employees of the coal industry, which by 2050 should simply cease to exist.

An interesting nuance is that Warsaw has pledged to close all coal mines by 2049 and now expects from the European Commission not only guarantees of compensation, but also that it will not interfere with subsidizing the coal industry for 29 years.

Under current European legislation, government subsidies for the coal industry should be completely prohibited. The main message: if the industry is not unprofitable, then it will survive without state support against the background of the growing green energy market. And if it is unprofitable, then there is no point in state support, otherwise it "will create an imbalance in the energy market."

Poland hopes that, under the promise to close its coal mines by 2049, Brussels will still allow it to subsidize coal miners in the amount of about 1 billion zlotys per year. This is equivalent to 20 billion rubles.

The major Polish publication Rzeczpospolita quotes a statement by Polish MEP Jerzy Buzek (former Polish Prime Minister and former European Parliament President):

Regardless of the source of money for mining subsidies, it seems that there is no basis for a positive decision in EU legislation. The Polish government is wasting its time making such plans. It should focus on deep restructuring of the mining industry, which is well ahead of faster mine closures and clean energy transitions, for which billions of euros can be raised from EU funds.

The Polish MEP notes that the energy already produced in Poland is becoming the most expensive in Europe.

From the statement:

Subsidizing this is contrary not only to EU rules, but also to common sense.
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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 October 2020 09: 19
    14
    Fools do not sow or reap - they themselves will be born ...
    This is due to the so-called climate program of the European Union, on the basis of which, in the next 30 years, the EU countries should completely switch to the use of renewable energy sources.

    Some have already switched almost entirely to "green energy":
    WASHINGTON, September 7, 2020, 20:50 - REGNUM The US state of California has experienced rolling blackouts that have not been comparable in the last 19 years, Rolitico reported on September 7.
    Details: https://regnum.ru/news/accidents/3056362.html
    Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

    And this is California, there is enough sun with the wind. And in Poland simoy you will howl to the moon under drowning floods "Vova, sell gas" wassat
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 October 2020 09: 32
      +2

      Cowbra
      Today, 09: 19
      NEW
      ..... And this is California, there is enough sun with the wind. And in Poland, simoy you will howl at the moon under drowning floods "Vova, sell gas" wassat
      So we still have psheki and boots will ask to sell them. wink
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 2 October 2020 21: 50
        +1
        But it is VERY interesting to "close" the mines - they invest in the industry an additional 1 billion zlotys per year.
        Very ... in Polish.
        And in 2049, the next president will throw up his hands, blaming his predecessor for non-fulfillment of obligations (who before that will die, poisoned by Novichok)
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      And in Poland simoy you will howl to the moon under drowning floods "Vova, sell gas"

      And what is the Polish word for "Who does not jump, that m..skal"? So they will warm up ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 2 October 2020 09: 57
        +4
        Everything for the Poles - both green energy and spoiled relations with Batka also hit their pocket. Let it continue in the same spirit.
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: Cowbra
        And in Poland simoy you will howl to the moon under drowning floods "Vova, sell gas"

        And what is the Polish word for "Who does not jump, that m..skal"? So they will warm up ...
      2. begemot20091
        begemot20091 2 October 2020 09: 59
        +3
        Kto nie skacze, to Moskal
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 11: 10
          +1
          Quote: begemot20091
          Kto nie skacze, to Moskal

          Let them learn by heart and prepare the pots. Just a pandemic of "pan-head" kind ... wassat If they don't have enough coronavirus, they still have to come up with it ...
    3. Free wind
      Free wind 2 October 2020 13: 03
      -1
      I think by 50 Vova will grunt.
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 2 October 2020 09: 21
    13
    "energy produced in Poland is becoming the most expensive in Europe."
    Everyone gets what he strives for.
    Germany - pipeline gas from Russia at economically advantageous low prices.
    Poland - liquefied natural gas from the USA, at politically advantageous high prices.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 October 2020 09: 37
      +5
      Quote: Livonetc
      Everyone gets what he strives for.
      Germany - pipeline gas from Russia at economically advantageous low prices.
      Poland - liquefied natural gas from the USA, at politically advantageous high prices.

      They will also start buying coal in South Africa. On compensation from the European Union for the closure of its mines.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2020 09: 22
    +7
    Relatively cheap electricity in Geyrope is absolutely YOK! Interesno how will they get out?
    Okay, while the crisis, consumption is much less, and then ??? especially when everyone wants to change to electric scooters ... because "pure green" is a very dated event! Where does Zin's money come from ???
    PS coal mining in Poland is not the cheapest business, but they also managed to buy cheaper coal from their neighbors!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 2 October 2020 10: 04
      0
      ... how to get out ...
      They will beg and beg in the EU, then in the US, as always, to talk about the Russian threat ...... That's just, probably the EU and the US will want to save on these costs somehow. wassat Greetings, Victor! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 October 2020 10: 18
        +2
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        Quote: Reptiloid
        They will beg and beg from the EU, then to the USA,

        In geyrope, there is simply NO freebie! And how can minke whales help them? Build a large floating capacitor / battery and transport electricity across the ocean?
        The funny thing is that the Gay Europeans cut through their "dirty" generating capacities !!! how will they charge their scooters and electric cars? holy spirit, or what?
        In short, a madhouse came there and settled thoroughly and for a long time.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 2 October 2020 10: 25
          0
          Gayrope doesn't have a gift, you say? Well no. But the Poles have no choice. So they will continue to beg like nedobalts. True benefits of it --- fool
          Once again they shot themselves in the leg, shit in their own pocket.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 17
            0
            It's hard to believe that people who understand what the ECONOMY OF THE STATE is, can go to such an absurdity fool
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 2 October 2020 11: 39
              -1
              Quote: rocket757
              It's hard to believe that people who understand what the ECONOMY OF THE STATE is, can go to such an absurdity fool

              And they will think of such an absurdity, and an even worse absurdity, I have no doubt laughing
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 October 2020 11: 10
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      Relatively cheap electricity in Geyrope is absolutely YOK! Interesno how will they get out?

      They will buy it from Father - they just start the nuclear power plant. smile
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 16
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        They will buy it from Father - they just start the nuclear power plant.

        There was such a thought ... and then I realized, and from WHOM will they buy that? For them, it seems, there is NO such subject of negotiations!
        At Tikhanovskaya, only cutlets ... maybe tasty, but that's EVERYTHING.
  4. Mouse
    Mouse 2 October 2020 09: 22
    +3
    yes already all close yourself .... here denyuzhka, then "trample" ... wassat
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 2 October 2020 09: 23
    +8
    ... will allow it to subsidize coal miners in the amount of about 1 billion zlotys per year. This is equivalent to 20 billion rubles.

    Something too small for the coal industry. Poland once mined up to 200 million tons of coal per year, and the industry employed over 400 thousand people ...
  6. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 2 October 2020 09: 23
    11
    the coal industry, which by 2050 should simply cease to exist.

    Where is Walesa, a dusty fighter for the rights of miners - urgently get it from the mezzanine and to the barricades! Where is Solidarity? Why are they not protesting? And how did they breathe, how they breathed ..
    1. apro
      apro 2 October 2020 09: 36
      +5
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      Where is Solidarity? Why are they not protesting?

      To bark at the owner ... according to the status it is not supposed.
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 October 2020 09: 32
    +3
    And in Murmansk, on the left side of the bay, a sophisticated coal terminal is being built. There is a railroad leading. Something tells me that Europe does not agree with coal. repeat
  8. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 2 October 2020 09: 34
    +5
    It seems that the Europeans decided to finally blow out the fire in their cave. The desire for nature should be present, but not to fanaticism with sun-eating and burdock clothing.
    Is it suggested to bask in tolerant rubbing against each other?
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 2 October 2020 10: 24
      0
      Yes, that you all rested on the expense of getting warm? Coal is both metallurgy and chemistry. And they also want to get away from oil and partly gas. Will they also make plastic out of thin air? money for production, and for disposal at times more. Physics and chemistry in Europe need to be retrained with rods.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 2 October 2020 10: 35
        +2
        "Warm up" - these are all civilized "nishtyaks", not just the stove. With the rest, I agree that their energy balance formula would work only from the sun with the wind, it will be necessary to forget about the continuous cycle and energy-intensive industries right away, but instead to enjoy the calm night weather, wrapped in 12 Chinese blankets. Well, or to suck in an electrician from the side of some Ukrainians and Tribaltics where you can already drag your nuclear boilers. Where the fig - there is smoke, same ...
  9. apro
    apro 2 October 2020 09: 35
    -1
    Well-thought-out Europeans ... under a beautiful slogan to crush the Polish economy ... only the old members of the Eurasian Economic Union are better off and can afford a lot, both green energy and expensive flushed gas, and when the Poles get caught up in it, you can raise sensitive questions.
    The goal of Europe is energy independence from everyone, given their scientific and technological advantages, a lot can be expected. ..
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 2 October 2020 12: 00
      +5
      England closed its last coal mine this year.
      Even China is about to shut down its coal industry.
      The cessation of coal energy is a global trend.
      They switch to LNG, build a nuclear power plant or, who can, a wind farm
      or solar energy.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 2 October 2020 14: 11
        -2
        And what will the British have to heat at home?
        In 2017, the mayor of London demanded a complete abandonment of coal and wood stoves in the city! Did they do it? Refused? Transferred all heating to gas and electricity?
        Or are they still heated with wood and coal to this day?
        It seems to be a highly developed country.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 2 October 2020 14: 50
          +5
          It's cold in their houses negative ... I lived in London in an apartment - I know. Heated with electric radiators, sometimes gas stoves from cylinders. But here you need to understand: the British, historically, are Spartans. Very rich people also live in the cold. Not because of the economy. I lived with friends who have Volvo and Porsche cars, and the apartment is worth a million dollars. But apartments in old houses are uncomfortable, the layout is wild. stop
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 2 October 2020 14: 59
            0
            Let them live on! With mold and dampness! And migrants are taught.
      2. not main
        not main 2 October 2020 21: 06
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        England closed its last coal mine this year.
        Even China is about to shut down its coal industry.
        The cessation of coal energy is a global trend.
        They switch to LNG, build a nuclear power plant or, who can, a wind farm
        or solar energy.

        But tell me, how will they all heat the blast furnaces? Or "black" metal is no longer needed in the "world trend"?
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 3 October 2020 22: 20
          +1
          For a long time already electric melting furnaces are everywhere)))
          1. not main
            not main 3 October 2020 23: 11
            0
            Quote: ZEMCH
            For a long time already electric melting furnaces are everywhere)))

            Plus I put it. But you are confusing open-hearth furnaces and blast furnaces.
  10. bar
    bar 2 October 2020 09: 36
    +2
    The Polish MEP notes that the energy already produced in Poland is becoming the most expensive in Europe.

    Well, the boys themselves stubbornly went to this success laughing
  11. Egoza
    Egoza 2 October 2020 09: 38
    +2
    And Poland expected to be subsidized all the time? not all ktu carnival! Now wait for "marches" from the miners. And where will all the ambition go then ?!
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 2 October 2020 13: 32
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      And then where will all the ambition go ?!

      Will smoothly turn into gonorrhea lol
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  13. Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 October 2020 09: 44
    +1
    Who will pay for green energy?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 October 2020 10: 34
      +1

      Pavel57 (Gf)
      Today, 09: 44
      NEW
      +1
      Who will pay for green energy?
      Sun and wind. Oh yes, there may still be sea waves and their currents. wink
  14. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 October 2020 09: 53
    +1
    Such plans and rates do not arise just like that, abruptly. Perhaps they have serious plans for ITER and there is a tokomak as the basis for future energy, plus hydrogen to replace the internal combustion engine
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 2 October 2020 10: 41
      +1
      And what if they are green and frolic here, and even the same helium from the Moon is rejected under the pretext of protecting the migration of krill in Lake Geneva? Generating hydrogen requires a different order of energy. The Greens can only move away from the EU "dirty" energy sources, but not completely ban physics.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 2 October 2020 19: 33
        0
        Well, the (green) have already won, since they rushed massively to coal mining and to close the nuclear power plant. Plus (green-green) strife is not strange and frank demogogs will definitely not listen and will not listen anywhere. And there are certain positive developments of scientists on which politicians rely when choosing strategic decisions, and not on the blah blah blah of the next birds of talkers. IMHO I will be right with hydrogen technologies at least in the next 10 years. Perhaps they have energy efficient hydrogen electrolysis technology on tests.
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 5 October 2020 08: 49
          0
          Quote: evgen1221
          Perhaps they have energy efficient hydrogen electrolysis technology on tests.

          If only economists defeated physics and chemistry. The cost of hydrogen in different ways is available on the same wiki. Electrolysis is not the cheapest. Conventionally, how much energy was spent on the production of hydrogen - so much it produced energy. This is if, in a spherical vacuum and without energy losses, the efficiency of the entire technical process of generation, storage, transmission is far from the most perfect.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 October 2020 10: 06
    0
    The Polish government is wasting time building such plans
    What do you (EU) want? All these years, Poland regularly received money from you for the development of its economy, and the largest in contrast to other Eastern European countries, and worked exclusively for the United States, causing discord in the union. Why don't the Poles once again try to shake the suckers in their favor? Enjoy "European unity" further.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 October 2020 10: 06
    +1
    Personally, I clap my hands loudly about this. Lyakhs want to be second after Banderlog, so we need to use the moment.
  17. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 2 October 2020 10: 30
    +1
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    the coal industry, which by 2050 should simply cease to exist.

    Where is Walesa, a dusty fighter for the rights of miners - urgently get it from the mezzanine and to the barricades! Where is Solidarity? Why are they not protesting? And how did they breathe, how they breathed ..

    With Walesa's rise to power, Polish miners were paid less than a newspaper seller at a kiosk. It is logical that the number of miners in Poland has declined greatly since then.
  18. Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 October 2020 10: 39
    0
    Quote: aszzz888
    Sun and wind. Oh yes, there may still be sea waves and their currents.

    Wind-wind, you are powerful, you drive flocks of clouds.
  19. Kerensky
    Kerensky 2 October 2020 12: 12
    0
    Is it already possible to buy a Polish miner's diploma in Moscow? I realized that they are 30 years old, they will just pay their salaries ...
  20. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 2 October 2020 12: 27
    -2
    Dried hyenie dermo is a renewable resource. Moreover, inexhaustible while the hyena is alive.
    So don't freeze.
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 2 October 2020 12: 48
    +1
    It seems that Gazprom's contract with Poland is coming to an end, in a couple of three years? It is necessary to delay this matter and not sign a new one.
    Let them drown with their ambitions!
  22. Baskak
    Baskak 2 October 2020 14: 31
    +8
    Poland pledged to the EU to close all coal mines and set a deadline

    The Poles are completely crazy. Either the Americans are invited for their occupation, now their mines are being closed at the request of the EU. However, the "Great Powers" laughing
  23. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 2 October 2020 21: 43
    0
    "He called himself a mushroom (European smile ) - get into the box (become cancer in front of older euro brothers bully ) ".
  24. Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 4 October 2020 13: 29
    0
    EU Common Sense Should Be Seeking Overseas