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The first squadron of unmanned aircraft tankers MQ-25 Stingray was formed in the USA

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Reports are coming from the United States that a squadron of unmanned aerial vehicles is being created for the first time in the structure of the Navy. aviation refuellers. This is the MQ-25 Stingray, which are being created as part of the American carrier-based aircraft modernization program. The total cost of this program to date is estimated at about $ 1 billion. At the same time, the first UAV-tanker flight made about a year ago - in September 2019.


The MQ-25 Stingray is being built by Boeing Corporation.

Creating the first squadron of such drones, the US Navy announces that tests of "updated versions" of the MQ-25 will start at the end of 2021 at best.

What, in this case, will the personnel of the formed 1st squadron of unmanned aerial refuelers be engaged in?

It is stated that at this stage, the main activity will be training personnel in the operation and maintenance of this equipment.

The base of the new squadron was the Venture County base in California. Part of the UAV will be located at the airfield at Point Mugu.

Earlier it was reported that the first aircraft carriers to include the MQ-25 in the air wing will be Dwight Eisenhower and George W. Bush.

The developers declare that the guaranteed service life of such drones is at least 20 years. The US Navy plans to purchase at least 72 of these unmanned aerial vehicles for a total of $ 13 billion. If so, then it turns out that the price of one MQ-25 Stingray is more than $ 180 million. This is roughly double the price of the F-35 today.
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  1. nnm
    nnm 2 October 2020 06: 41
    +4
    If so, it turns out that the price of one MQ-25 Stingray is more than $ 180 million. This is roughly double the price of the F-35 today.

    - just in time for the topic of yesterday's dispute on the VO about the "cheapness" of the UAV.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 2 October 2020 06: 51
      +1
      If so, it turns out that the price of one MQ-25 Stingray is more than $ 180 million. This is roughly double the price of the F-35 today.
      a bit expensive kerosene comes out. "flying canister" for one refueling? but no .. looked 6,8 tons of fuel ... then maybe it makes sense .. for an aircraft carrier.
      1. nnm
        nnm 2 October 2020 06: 59
        0
        I did not manage to find data on a similar technique currently used in the United States on the issue of the cost / weight ratio of fuel on the Internet. It would be interesting to compare.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 2 October 2020 07: 20
          +2
          The unmanned tanker must be capable of delivering 15 pounds (000 kg) of fuel for a total of 6-800 aircraft at a range of 4 nautical miles (6 land miles, or 500 km). On August 580, 930, the US Navy awarded Boeing a contract for the development, production and development of the MQ-30 worth $ 2018 million.
          Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/raq-25_stingray/ VTS "BASTION" AVKarpenko
          1. hrych
            hrych 2 October 2020 07: 43
            -3
            Here one refueled the other day. F-35 minus and a tanker sat down in a corn field wassat Robots will help us ... see The Matrix and the Terminator wassat
            1. Temples
              Temples 2 October 2020 08: 32
              +1
              We need to create a firefighter drone.
              I remember we lost people while putting out a fire.
              Due to poor visibility, they crashed into the hill.
              1. Interlocutor
                Interlocutor 2 October 2020 09: 38
                0
                We need to create a firefighter drone.
                I remember we lost people while putting out a fire.
                Due to poor visibility, they crashed into the hill.


                Yes. This is really a topic ...
                And in tandem with a tanker. He will be able to deal with fires around the clock, with a break for service.
                Such a carousel could be turned.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 2 October 2020 16: 19
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                  Quote: Interlocutor
                  Yes. This is really a topic ...
                  And in tandem with a tanker. He will be able to deal with fires around the clock, with a break for service.

                  So where will the UAV take water from? ... The same from the tanker? wink
                  1. Interlocutor
                    Interlocutor 2 October 2020 17: 01
                    0
                    So where will the UAV take water from? ... The same from the tanker? wink

                    I said - this is the topic ... To teach how to take water from a reservoir ... This is really what it would be worth doing ...
                    1. ancient
                      ancient 2 October 2020 17: 22
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                      Quote: Interlocutor
                      Teach to take water from a reservoir

                      belay belay belay in the machine or under the control of the operator? recourse
                      1. Interlocutor
                        Interlocutor 2 October 2020 18: 19
                        0
                        belay belay belay in the machine or under the control of the operator? recourse


                        In the machine ...
              2. ancient
                ancient 2 October 2020 16: 18
                0
                Quote: Temples
                We need to create a firefighter drone.

                Not cost-effective ...... UAVs of this class are much more expensive than an airplane, this time, and two of it will also need to be refueled on the ground, but the airplane takes much more wink
                1. Interlocutor
                  Interlocutor 2 October 2020 18: 21
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                  Not cost-effective ...... UAVs of this class are much more expensive than an airplane, this time, and two of it will also need to be refueled on the ground, but the airplane takes much more wink


                  The Americans extinguish both small planes and large ones. Helicopters also carry less water than airplanes.
                  In terms of profitability, this is an extremely volatile measure. But the development of the unmanned direction is very powerful.
            2. donavi49
              donavi49 2 October 2020 08: 41
              +4
              Just work will help. The UAV will run perfectly smoothly. And screw the automatic drive system onto the plane. As a result, it will be possible to refuel on autopilot.

              That's when they do it on their hands, usually all sorts of rams, breaks of rods, arrivals of a cone in a lantern or a fence and happen.
          2. ancient
            ancient 2 October 2020 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: Dead Day
            at a distance of 500 nautical miles (580 land miles, or 930 km)

            The manufacturer "gives" data about D pr.max. 900 km ... this means that the tactical range is a maximum of 400 km (in the most optimistic scenarios), and if you consider that he, the tanker, needs to take off first and wait for the UG somewhere ... but in general ... the idea is good ... but for a very distant future laughing drinks
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 2 October 2020 08: 45
          +1
          Quote: nnm
          USA similar technology on the cost / weight ratio of fuel.

          Now on AB, F / A-18E / F with outboard tanks are used as a tanker.
          Fuel mass:
          in internal tanks: 6559 kg
          on external sling: 7264 kg
          1. ancient
            ancient 2 October 2020 16: 26
            0
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Now on AB as a tanker they use F / A-18E / F with outboard tanks

            This is the most good and there is a tanker and ... a combat unit ... and here ... if a UAV squadron, and even without a folding wing ... how much space is there in hangars? And on Tech. positions in preparation for departure?
            Then a separate aircraft carrier should be allocated wink
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 2 October 2020 17: 08
              -1
              Quote: ancient
              and even without a folding wing ..

              Why did you decide so? The folding mechanism is visible.
              1. ancient
                ancient 2 October 2020 17: 33
                0
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                The folding mechanism is visible.

                On the prototype, it is not yet clear whether the wing and keels of the MQ-25 will be equipped with folding mechanisms. bully
                Most likely, such mechanisms will be installed, but .... while "flies" without them wink
                1. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik 2 October 2020 17: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: ancient
                  It is not yet clear on the prototype

                  The mechanism is clearly visible. Here is a photo from a different angle.
                  1. ancient
                    ancient 2 October 2020 17: 59
                    0
                    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                    The mechanism is clearly visible

                    A place for the mechanism is provided .. no one argues, but .. so far only the mechanism
                    This is the MiG-35S

                    And this is the MiG-29K

                    See nothing alike? wink although one has it ... but the other does not bully
        3. ancient
          ancient 2 October 2020 16: 16
          0
          Quote: nnm
          I did not manage to find data on a similar technique currently used in the USA on the Internet.

          No need to look for anything wink draw yourself and look at this .. "idea" wassat
          We write a circle in it "AUG" ... then draw a straight line (with slight bends) and one more
          the circle "in it we write" Target ", on it we write the distance = the tactical radius of action of the" Super Hornet "and from here we begin to" dance ", that is, to answer to ourselves the arising .."! problems on this idea ":
          1. For what real purposes will the UG AV be used in the land theater of operations and, most importantly, what kind of necessary forces and means will be needed to fulfill the assigned BZ.
          - We answer .... we completely exclude targets on the shore, since these are the tasks of shipborne KUG and Air Force aviation
          2. What will be the real provision of cover for the UG during the implementation of the BR.
          -.Minimum UG "link" covering 2 more, 1-2 EW aircraft + tankers 2. + 2 (for a meeting).
          - if the UG is larger in terms of its quantitative composition, then the support information is the same .. "more" and it becomes ... quite "sad" with this ... "venture"
          3. Proceeding from this, the AUG should be located in the area of ​​1000-1200 km from the coastline.
          - but here the AUG is hit by the anti-ship missiles of our IBA (Su-30SM) and the FBA (Su-34), and the air group is hit by the IA
          That's the whole "idea" with refueling the UAV ... collapsed into oblivion wassat since how and how much do not move the area of ​​action of the AUG in any direction, then "the end is" one "... or the aircraft of the AUG will not be able to .." fly to the middle of the Dnieper " wassat or everything in the "heap" falls under the counteraction of enemy aircraft, i.e. us. laughing
          The only place where you can use these UAVs:
          1.When actions against .. "Popuasia", where there is no aviation with anti-ship missiles, air defense aviation and air defense missile systems, here yes ... you can increase the tactical radius of the UG, but not very slightly, since by 4 machines of 1,7 tons each. .. it will not be enough.
          2. "Hang" next to the aircraft carrier in the zone (50-100 km) and provide refueling of returning groups that may come (on a bucket of kerosene wink ), while the queue for landing is lining up and the calculation is 1,7 tons per .. "snout" wassat
          That's where it is .. if it's short ... of course you can "dilute" and more .. but .... the game is not worth the candle wink
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 4 October 2020 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: ancient
            That's where it is .. if it's short ... of course you can "dilute" and more .. but .... the game is not worth the candle

            good
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 2 October 2020 08: 51
      +5
      Quote: nnm
      VO about the "cheapness" of the UAV

      180 million is based on the entire program for 1 UAV. Because a small batch is expensive. The program includes all costs from the preparation of technical specifications to the modernization of AB. The production price of a single MQ-25 is a smaller fraction of this amount.
      And the drone is really big, I think there will be shock variants based on it.
  2. Escobar
    Escobar 2 October 2020 07: 05
    0
    Now the "long arm" of aircraft carriers will become even longer (((
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 2 October 2020 07: 15
      -1
      They were developed for the aircraft carrier Ford and F-35, and the Ford F-35 cannot PHYSICALLY launch))) So the arm may be longer. but still shoved up to the elbow in ... the puppet theater
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 3 October 2020 18: 12
        -1
        Quote: Cowbra
        They were developed for the aircraft carrier Ford and F-35


        It is not true. The MQ-25s were not specifically designed for any aircraft carrier. The first carriers were planned for the Eisenhower and Bush class Nimitz.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 4 October 2020 07: 39
          0
          stealth gas station ... Crying. When will you learn to lie even plausibly, daughter of an officer ?! Chocolate eye in the desert)
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 4 October 2020 11: 57
            0
            Quote: Cowbra
            stealth gas station ... Crying. When will you learn to lie even plausibly, daughter of an officer ?!


            First you lie about the MQ-25 being for Ford and the F-35, now you credit me with a statement I didn't. Why are you constantly lying - are you mentally ill?
  3. Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 October 2020 07: 12
    -5
    Urrya! Has earned! As the cat Matroskin said ...
    Here are just, for example, the KS-46 tanker, they have been developing everything there since the 12th year, while the result is 5 critical defects of the "1st category", EACH of which does not allow this aircraft to be accepted and have come to the point that they already want to contract private offices in Air Force instead of these tankers. In other words, with tankers in the United States, the usual picture - he crowed, but at least not dawn at all laughing
    1. Escobar
      Escobar 2 October 2020 09: 16
      +4
      How about us? How many boards have been accepted for the last time?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 2 October 2020 09: 20
        -6
        We have enough, we do not have a strategy of global domination, and there is an abundance of refueling patrols.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 2 October 2020 10: 07
          +5
          Quote: Cowbra
          We have enough, we do not have a strategy of global domination, and there is an abundance of refueling patrols.

          No, not so - that's why there is no suffering of global domination, because we cannot afford, we have nothing to dominate, all hope is for one Yao
        2. Escobar
          Escobar 2 October 2020 16: 43
          0
          But how to increase the radius of the missile carriers, patrolling the sea area and accompanying fighters?
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 2 October 2020 17: 35
            -2
            Silently:
            As of 2013 year, in a separate 6950 air group of the Guards air base (Ryazan), there are 21 aircraft.
      2. ancient
        ancient 2 October 2020 16: 32
        0
        Quote: Eskobar
        How about us?

        Read and watch the "zombie box" .. there on fellow -channels say - "..that we have .." entogo "good enough for everyone ... enough" belay recourse request
        1. Escobar
          Escobar 2 October 2020 16: 41
          -1
          Look for every parade on May 9, it seems that there is one for the "Great-Mighty"!
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 October 2020 07: 25
    -6
    Here they have with ordinary tankers, they do not always grow together! Atut UAV. A couple of MQ25 will rebel or the airplane will be shot down or the best option is shouting: Banzai !!! On the deck of the aircraft carrier hubs !!! good We look forward to seeing you! drinks
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 2 October 2020 08: 38
    +7
    Why on VO constantly (not the first time already writing), material about the MQ-25 Stingray, and a photo of the first UAV that came across?

    MQ-25 Stingray
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 2 October 2020 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      Why on VO constantly (not the first time already writing), material about the MQ-25 Stingray, and a photo of the first UAV that came across?

      MQ-25 Stingray

      Because this is IN. It doesn't care about the literacy and reliability of information
      1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 2 October 2020 13: 20
        +1
        People havaet i ladno ....
    2. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 10 October 2020 18: 38
      +1
      Will this work?

      not the first one that came across)))