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"New art" or mockery of the people for the people's money?

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"New art" or mockery of the people for the people's money?

Sergei Yesenin again managed to cause a sensation in the First Throne - on his 125th birthday. Or rather, of course, not to him, but to the monument erected for this date in the courtyard of the Moscow Museum of the great Russian poet. To say that this art object (to call it a sculpture, the language, right, does not turn) looks more than original, is to say nothing. A heated discussion that immediately flared up on this issue gives rise to a question: is it art or something completely different?


The fact that a storm would break out over such a controversial image of the classic of Russian poetry was already clear from the first statements of public figures about him. And if Sergei Bezrukov, who embodied the image of Yesenin on the screen, kept quiet (being clearly not delighted with what he saw), then the actress Maria Shukshina called the statue not just "outrage", but also "blasphemy". By the way, there are certain grounds for such a definition: an eerie figure spread out on a pedestal with wings bent back instead of hands, if it evokes associations with an angel, then perhaps with a fallen one ...

According to the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he "saw this way" "the fall and ascension of Yesenin." The author considers this “masterpiece” profusely spat upon by many thousands of Russians “his best creation” and “an excellent test for Muscovites for the perception of new views in art”. Well, if this was a test, then our compatriots could not stand it. We failed, one might say, with a bang. It is enough to go to any forum on the Internet where Potocki's creation is being discussed to be convinced of this.

There are a lot of comments. It's a pity, it's impossible to bring them here, since about 99% of reviews not only contain profanity, but consist entirely of it. Of the most frequently used decent definitions: shame, disgrace, disgusting handicraft, mockery of memory, crooked squalor ... The ingenuity of citizens about the ways of how one should deal with the would-be sculptor is somewhat frightening. Believe me, the option to “tear your hands off” is another of the most merciful.

Also impressive is the depth of Russians' acquaintance with literary and cinematic works of the genre "horror" - "sculpture" immediately picked up a dozen analogs among such characters. His compatriots categorically do not want to consider the horror erected in the museum courtyard as a work of art, and even more so as a tribute to the memory of the great poet. Many ask him for forgiveness for the descendants who allowed this.

Here is one of the more typical opinions:

It does not pull on an object that is a symbol and is put in memory of a person or event. Well, such a wretched work cannot, no matter how the artist “sees”, be a symbol and memory, it cannot! This is just an insult to the one in honor of which this is erected, fans and just the eyes of people who had the "happiness" to contemplate this creation ...

Demands to prosecute those responsible persons who allowed and welcomed the installation of a monstrous "creation" in a public place, and questions about how much budget money was spent on "this nightmare" also prevail among the reviews. It should be noted that the staff of the Yesenin Museum, which has sheltered the work of Potocki, claim that the sculptor "presented it as a gift." That is, we are not talking about any financial costs in principle. Moreover, as the museum workers say, this is not a monument at all, but a kind of "temporary exhibition", which, quite possibly, soon will not be in this place. I would like to believe ...

Alas, the practice of recent years shows that the impudent and punchy "contemporary art" and in particular those of its adherents who consider themselves to be sculptors, confidently win a place in the sun on the streets and squares of Russian cities. When discussing the “new vision of the Yesenin image”, which many Russians for some reason take for the consequences of alcohol or psychotropic substance abuse, these people who are far from the “modern canons of art” recall its other examples ...


A monument to Peter the Great in the city he founded, which is strongly discouraged for people with a vulnerable psyche ... The sculpture of a dissident academician, which Muscovites aptly christened "Sakharov in flippers", is of the same kind ... Finally, a completely schizophrenic-looking bronze "centaur" year on City Day in Penza and symbolizing absolutely incomprehensible what! This is art?! Some of the domestic academics of the corresponding profile, beating off the horror attacks that have been announced in the Yesenin museum, have already declared that “one should not follow the opinion of an uneducated and unprofessional minority”. What do they understand!


Excuse me, but, first of all, we are not talking about the minority, but about the majority of Russians! This is absolutely certain. And secondly, it is this very majority, even if it does not have diplomas of art critics, with its daily work just provides the life of those very cities that disfigure the "highly artistic" crafts of "innovators". In the end, they live in them, filling their budgets, from which such "creative delights" are very generously paid. And if you really want to create "masterpieces", the contemplation of which in all these people causes nothing but disgust and anger, your will. But then exhibit them in closed galleries, private collections, in your own backyards, if you like!

And even more so, in no case should this kind of "kreakl" be allowed to the names, events, milestones, which are the golden fund of Russian culture and stories! Yesenin in the form of a clumsy cobbled together creature from nightmares is indeed sacrilege and mockery, and not "a tribute to the memory of the poet"! And no "popularization" of himself and his work, such an "embodiment" can serve. Rather, on the contrary, in people with a normal psyche, it will only generate rejection.

Rumor has it that after a month's exposition in Moscow, the "sculpture" of Potocki can be sent to India - as a prop for holding the 13th Yesenin Prize ceremony there. And even if only to India - if only away from our eyes. There is definitely no place for such "art" in the hearts of Russians.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 2 October 2020 10: 05
    37
    I don't understand new art at all .. I like the classics. And it really looks more like
    or mockery of the people for the people's money?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 2 October 2020 10: 14
      22
      Well, of course!
      ..... send to India .....
      There was talk that the Pndus somehow began to treat the Russians worse. And then what will happen? No need to embarrass yourself ---- India is a populous country, developing in addition.
      Let the author of the figure take it to his apartment and live with it. negative Once created by myself am am ... Let him suffer.
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 2 October 2020 10: 24
        32
        Sorry for the harshness, but this is some kind of ugliness, this is some kind of shame. The author sculpted Ichthyander, but something did not work out there and it turned out what happened. I sculpted better in kindergarten. What a horror. like this should be the creation of a drunken master.
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 2 October 2020 16: 07
          -26 qualifying.
          about 99% of reviews not only contain profanity, but consist entirely of it.
          And this speaks perfectly about the cultural level of the majority of our fellow citizens. But here's what's strange: we accept chewing gum like "Dom-2" calmly, watch the endless series "Trace", we accept American muck like Batmen, Supermen, Hulks and others, we are ready to introduce "The Lord of the Rings" and Harry Potter into the school literature curriculum, and then they suddenly got angry ... And here's what's interesting to me: why is the article illustrated with a photo taken with a short-focus camera and from the most unfavorable angle? Not in order to deliberately distort the idea of ​​sculpture? Here's an example of what angle selection can do with a sculpture: |

          Oh, how smelled the decree on the magazines "Zvezda" and "Leningrad", which led to repressions against Akhmatova and Zoshchenko! How this is reminiscent of the struggle against formalism in music, which almost cost the careers of Muradeli and Shostakovich!
          Well, okay, Khrushchev, Stalin and Zhdanov didn’t know much about music and art.
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 2 October 2020 16: 45
            -23 qualifying.
            I will continue:
            Would you destroy the paintings of Matisse, Monet, Picasso, Chagall? And the music of Shostakovich, Schoenberg, Schnittke? And the pop music Shnurov with swear words, "You kiss me everywhere, I'm 18 already," vulgarity from "Affectionate May" and Igor Nikolaev, it seems, does not disturb you? And do you give a damn that Mozart and Bach, that "My Bunny" - just to buzz? Well, why is everyone so excited by an article that is clearly inappropriate for a site that is not art history? That everyone wanted blood? Maybe leave a question for discussion for those who understand this?
            If so, then perhaps you need to turn to yourself and look for Shvonder and Sharikov in yourself. They understood any issues ...
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 2 October 2020 17: 15
              +6
              Quote: astepanov
              Oh, how smelled the decree on the magazines "Zvezda" and "Leningrad", which led to repressions against Akhmatova and Zoshchenko! How this is reminiscent of the struggle against formalism in music, which almost cost the careers of Muradeli and Shostakovich!
              Well, okay, Khrushchev, Stalin and Zhdanov didn’t know much about music and art.

              Well, Stepanov! Well, Stepanov !!! repeat
              You probably don't live in the city!
              Well, why in a world-famous city, in principle, exhibit such UNFINISHED crafts ?! The sculptor Grigory Pototsky doesn't know how to sculpt? Or does he not have enough time to earn money - and that is why he just produces Knotty?
              A place for such crafts in the forest among animals and birds! In the forest, even if the birds and animals, these "sculptures" are quite taken for snags and approved by their perches!

              If we compare these sculptures with Dali's painting "Premonition of the Civil War" (there was at least an allegorical meaning in this painting by Dali),
              , and here WHAT do we have?
              Such sculptures by Russian artists, like those of the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, testify only to the mental, moral and professional degradation of Russian art.
              It's as if LGBT perversion is considered normal for the continuation of the human race.

              But since Russia stands and will stand, "Presentiment of the destruction of Russian culture on a global scale!" - following the example of Dali - it is impossible to name such creations of the sculptor Grigory Pototsky!
              These works look nothing more than a pro-Western, Russophobic, anti-Russian PROVOCATION on the part of such degraded sculptors themselves!

              This "drunk" with such a sculptural "bucket" will also go to India !!!
              Nafig Russia, he is a pro-Western traitor - with his shameful creation and is needed somewhere abroad!
              1. Nikolai Korovin
                Nikolai Korovin 4 October 2020 14: 35
                +1
                There is a kind of déjà vu here. "Instead of the figure of the sower, Ostap's mischievous hand depicted ...", well, I forgot exactly what she portrayed there. It seems to be some kind of chump with a scion. Well, there was at least some weighty reason - he had to get on the ship, and he called himself an artist. He called himself a champignon - get into your reticule, paint. And what is this, may I ask? I remember that in the 60s there were several modeling lessons at work in elementary school. It would not have been possible to get a positive assessment for such "creativity". The requirements were much higher. Of course, the site is not art criticism, as it was noticed here, but this is not art, but a provocation in order to arouse a feeling of disgust towards S. Yesenin among the maximum number of people.
                1. astepanov
                  astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 42
                  -2
                  Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                  I remember that in the 60s there were several modeling lessons at work in elementary school.

                  It is felt that your aesthetic education was limited to these modeling lessons.
                  1. Nikolai Korovin
                    Nikolai Korovin 5 October 2020 16: 22
                    +1
                    You are unusually perceptive.
            2. akarfoxhound
              akarfoxhound 3 October 2020 12: 59
              +4
              Someone calmly perceives Dom-2, Trail and so on? Type of mass disturbances of this pornyxe television in a mass form, in the same net - no ??? And is this yudstvo - an underestimated Picasso from sculpture? Nail Faberge to the paving stones, support another "professional lover of beauty" wink
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 18
                -1
                Quote: akarfoxhound
                Someone calmly perceives Dom-2, Trail and so on? Type of mass disturbances of this pornyxe television in a mass form, in the same net - no ??

                Don't whistle, dear. All these Shnurovs, Galkins, Petrosyans, performers of "My Bunny" and "You Kiss Me Everywhere" feel great and earn a lot of money from the fees from concerts, which classical performers never dreamed of. It is not the state that pays them, but the people, and hawala this gum so that it squeaks behind the ears. I know one classical instrumentalist, one of the best in the world, who has to work as an accompanist for Malinin, just so as not to starve. I found his record on YouTube, where he performs with a solo number, and Malinin walks around with a tambourine. And comments: "Oh, what a musical Malinin!" That's all there is to say about the tastes and understanding of art by our public. And your escapades are good for me.
              2. astepanov
                astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 44
                -3
                The one who "nailed the Faberge" is completely identical to you in the level of aesthetic education.
                1. akarfoxhound
                  akarfoxhound 6 October 2020 23: 21
                  -2
                  The one who nailed the Faberge is completely identical to you in the level of aesthetic perception, like a fly, flying by, admires the beauty, but is drawn to the trash heaps. tongue
                  You are most likely with vocational education, while you are clearly offended by your own "underestimation" of the world. Nothing exceptional and surprising in your behavior, you are so "different in any way all" in different "creative unions of artists of Russia" to ..... and a trosh. ExclusiveFF laughing

                  And if my "escapades" would have been to you before the candle (I don't know where this is in your body sad ), you would not be gushing with two comments in emotions. Do not strain, I will not read the answer, the topic is absolutely predictable, not interesting. wink
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 7 October 2020 06: 43
                    -2
                    Dear boy, unlike you, I have a technical and very decent education, which does not allow me to put emoticons in business and not to put emoticons everywhere and stick the words "like", like, "etc. And the opinion of the unschooled student me doesn't really care.
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          3. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 October 2020 17: 05
            +4
            Quote: astepanov
            Oh, how smelled the decree on the magazines "Zvezda" and "Leningrad", which led to repressions against Akhmatova and Zoshchenko! How this is reminiscent of the struggle against formalism in music, which almost cost the careers of Muradeli and Shostakovich!
            Well, okay, Khrushchev, Stalin and Zhdanov didn’t know much about music and art.

            Well, Stepanov! Well, Stepanov !!! repeat
            You probably don't live in the city!
            Well, why in a world-famous city, in principle, exhibit such UNFINISHED crafts ?! The sculptor Grigory Pototsky can't sculpt?
            A place for such crafts in the forest among animals and birds! In the forest, even if the birds and animals, these "sculptures" are quite taken for snags and approved by their perches!

            If we compare these sculptures with Dali's painting "Premonition of the Civil War" (there was at least an allegorical meaning in this painting by Dali),
            , and here WHAT do we have?
            Such sculptures by Russian artists, like those of the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, testify only to the mental, moral and professional degradation of Russian art.
            It's as if LGBT perversion is considered normal for the continuation of the human race.

            But since Russia stands and will stand, "Presentiment of the destruction of Russian culture on a global scale!" - following the example of Dali - it is impossible to name such creations of the sculptor Grigory Pototsky!
            These works look nothing more than a pro-Western, Russophobic, anti-Russian PROVOCATION on the part of such sculptors themselves!

            Also this drunk with such a "bucket" will go to India !!!
            Nafig Russia, he is a pro-Western traitor - with his shameful creation somewhere abroad is needed!
            1. astepanov
              astepanov 2 October 2020 17: 41
              -11 qualifying.
              Quote: Tatiana
              A place for such crafts in the forest among animals and birds!

              Tatiana, I do not know what the value of this work is: I am not an expert, and I have not seen the work live. But you have never (on this site, at least) been outraged by either "Dom-2", or the vile films of recent years about the war, slapped on Western models (with the exception of the wonderful film "Panfilov's 28"), nor the most disgusting pop the most vulgar Petrosyans-Galkins and others like them with their genital humor, no serials designed for idiots. Where did everyone get such a stir from an unremarkable event - the installation of a tiny sculpture of unknown quality in a tiny museum? Pavlensky was not pecked like that, and in fact, apart from a sick psyche and a desire to shock, Pavlensky has nothing. Explain to me, an old fool, what is happening. It reminds me of a phantasmagoric nature of what happened in the tenants' association under the leadership of Shvonder, and also made me remember some decisions of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), which broke many fates. Is it starting again?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 October 2020 18: 55
                +7
                Quote: astepanov
                Tatiana, I do not know what the value of this work is: I am not an expert, and I have not seen the work live.
                There is no need to watch it live - everything is so clear!
                Personally, I have been drawing pretty well since childhood - mostly portraits! The drawing teachers at school even took my drawings to show to their students at the university, saying that I - in my childhood - draw better than their adult pupils. That I have talent and that I can become a real artist.
                However, the profession of an artist did not appeal to me. And so, on occasion in my life, working as a designer in the design bureau, in my youth I painted about 20 portraits of my friends and workmates. All portraits were successful. At the same time, we competed with my colleague friend, who still could not enter the architecture department by drawing. Her faces in the portraits turned out to be not living, but stone. She even had an idea for me to pass the entrance exam in drawing from life for her.
                And no one returned the portraits to me, although everyone swore and promised to return them after showing them at home. They all hung their framed portraits at home. And then they brought me sweets, cakes and all sorts of sweets. In general, I donated all my drawings. One drawing went abroad as a gift.
                Only my own self-portrait in pencil has survived at my place. It is a pity that the scanner does not work for me now, otherwise it could show.

                NEGATIVE value in such a work of the sculptor Pototsky for the West there is certainly it consists in promoting the policy of dehumanizing people in the world! That's all its "value"!
                The work is done by the author out of opportunistic considerations - for the West's need to promote imaginary "universal human values."
                In the West, such scandalous works are well paid and the authors themselves are supported and promoted.

                I don’t watch TV at all and even for that I don’t keep it at home for about 10 years. I name it. TV box, which only powders people's brains and takes away their useful time. You can find everything you need on the Internet.
                1. astepanov
                  astepanov 3 October 2020 13: 11
                  -10 qualifying.
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  There is no need to watch it live - everything is so clear!

                  Yes, yes, "I have not read it, but I angrily condemn it." It's all old and disgusting. Just reread what you are talking about. Here - curse the sculpture, which has not been seen in the eyes. At the same time, they howl about the fact that all the poetry of the 20th century in the USSR was created by "foreigners", clearly hinting at someone's Semitic roots. In the next branch (about the massacre in Karabakh), they enthusiastically prove that nationality is determined by the measurement of skulls (or by haplogroups - one feature), and not related to culture, language and religion, and everyone agrees. What's next?
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 3 October 2020 14: 06
                    +5
                    Quote: astepanov
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    There is no need to watch it live - everything is so clear!
                    Yes, yes, "I have not read it, but I angrily condemn it." It's all old and disgusting. Just reread what you are talking about. Here - curse the sculpture, which has not been seen in the eyes. At the same time, they howl about the fact that all the poetry of the 20th century in the USSR was created by "foreigners", clearly hinting at someone's Semitic roots.

                    Stepanov! A photo is not a reverence for a book! You can already see everything in the photo. Don't confuse photos with reading books.
                    Do not fall into eclecticism - i.e. do not mix all the concepts into one heap! Do not prove with your sophistry - i.e. a logical trick - in a dispute, allegedly, they were right in relation to both the quality of the sculpture and its consumer-semantic motivation on the part of the sculptor Pavlensky himself! This sculpture has nothing to do with genuine art!

                    Participant Nikolai tells you the same thing in his commentary (see below) - and moreover, without any eclecticism in POLITICS!
                    Quote: 2 level advisor
                    I graduated from art school, my graduation work was on sculpture .. so this is horror! idea, image, that is, but where is the clarity of the lines? in all this sculpture there is only a clear face (and not quite) even in Dali, although who is this sculptor to make such comparisons with the Master? Dali, with his surrealism, incomprehensible to many, there are no muddy paintings with one clear section, everything in the picture is about something clearly .. What does the whole "wrinkled" sculpture without clear lines symbolize? no, I don’t argue .. the artist sees this way .. someone and personal belongings to Red Square nailed .. and someone even considers it art .. to each his own .. but think, why did not such people create sculptures until the 20th century? and sculptures - passed through the centuries - have nothing to do with this and close ..
                    1. astepanov
                      astepanov 3 October 2020 14: 28
                      -9
                      Venerable,
                      you don't need to lie. Give me a quote where I at least gave a word to the sculpture. Slander is the most popular technique of demagogues. And the photo can distort the essence so that it will not seem a little. Filmed with a short-throw camera, and the angle is deliberately disgusting. Here, look what an angle can create, this is a photo of the monument to Gagarin on the embankment in Saratov, set back in the seventies: https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/st/50/topic375673.html
                      As for the clarity of the lines, remember the monument in Khatyn, amazing in strength: where are the "clear lines"? Everything is conditional and anatomically wrong - and incredibly powerful. Find and see. And one more thing: why are you terrified of calling the author of the sculpture Pavlensky?
                      As for Dali, in Soviet times, "specialists" like you willingly washed his bones, singing along with official propaganda. They were washed by Matisse, Chagall, Monet, and Picasso. The people, so to speak, angrily condemned. The people condemned genetics and cybernetics. While I was studying at the university back in the seventies, I read about how people condemn "idealism in chemistry". And at the same time managed to get the manuscript of "Dog's Heart". And that is why I do not trust the opinion of amateurs a single gram and in anything. Balls can be set on anyone.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 3 October 2020 17: 09
                        +3
                        Well, here are some examples of real art!

                        The restored monument "Motherland" in Volgograd - footage from a bird's eye view • May 2, 2020

                        Monument to the Heroic Defenders of Leningrad on Victory Square and bunkers in Pulkovo Park. • May 13, 2020


                        Khatyn. Monument.


                        Where did you see "chewed" - "shapelessly crumpled", as well as abstract sculptural figures, like those of Potocki?

                        And here are some more works by Potocki. Guess who he portrayed in his work?
                        Anton Pavlovich Chekhov.
                      2. astepanov
                        astepanov 3 October 2020 18: 44
                        -5
                        First, you have not answered any of my questions. This means you have nothing to say. Second, how does it follow from the examples you gave that the work in question is bad? Let's say I like Raphael's Madonna and Child. Does this mean that Chagall's works are worthless? Include logic sometimes, in addition to emotions. Your tastes are your own business.
                        And third: why are you citing quotes to which I have not the slightest relation, and this is not the first time? Do you really think that this is even decent?
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 3 October 2020 19: 39
                        +3
                        Quote: astepanov
                        First, you have not answered any of my questions. This means you have nothing to say.
                        And third: why are you citing quotes to which I have not the slightest relation, and this is not the first time? Do you really think that this is even decent?
                        Yes, all I do is answer your questions!
                        In addition, I also read your polemics with other participants and add to their answers to you and my more extended opinion on the merits of your questions.
                        But this is your grades!
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Where did everyone get such a stir from an unremarkable event - the installation of a tiny sculpture of unknown quality in a tiny museum? Pavlensky was not pecked like that, and in fact, apart from a sick psyche and a desire to shock, there is nothing. Explain to me, an old fool, what is happening. It reminds me of a phantasmagoric nature of what happened in the tenants' association under the leadership of Shvonder, and also made me remember some decisions of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), which broke many fates. Is it starting again?

                        Quote: astepanov
                        As for the clarity of the lines, remember the monument in Khatyn, amazing in strength: where are the "clear lines"? Everything is conditional and anatomically incorrect

                        Just in the monument of Khatyn, anatomically, EVERYTHING IS CORRECT! And the acceptable convention is the style of monumentalism. I brought you two films on this topic for a visual example of monumental works - how they are performed and look.
                        And since we are talking initially about the sculptural genre, as such, I also gave you an example of a video of performing sculptures at the monument to the Heroic Defenders of Leningrad in St. Petersburg.
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Your tastes are your own business.
                        There is IDEOLOGY behind all tastes. And if you are not in politics, then politics is in you. I already wrote to you about it.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        It's as if LGBT perversion is considered normal for the continuation of the human race.
                        Some works of artists, sculptors, writers, filmmakers, mass media workers, etc. serve the triumph of life on Earth, while others serve the degeneration of mankind.
                      4. astepanov
                        astepanov 4 October 2020 20: 24
                        -3
                        Stop whistling! I am not interested in your amateurish teachings! I asked you why you ascribe some kind of assessment of the sculpture to me and on the basis of these inventions carry your nonsense - you did not deign to answer, each time inventing new and new nonsense. In the same way, you do not want to discuss any of my arguments, every time you go aside. I am beginning to doubt your decency.
                    2. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 5 October 2020 00: 58
                      +1
                      Quote: astepanov
                      First, you have not answered any of my questions. This means you have nothing to say.

                      I will say yes I do not like Khrushchev request But on the bulldozer named after him with the slogan -Get pederasts! would sit down with pleasure winked And on a masterpiece together with the artist ... am
                    3. qwest32
                      qwest32 11 October 2020 20: 56
                      0
                      Tatyana had the misfortune to "talk" with a crypto-Jew, this is a typical Jewish chutzpashnik - rude, stupid, arrogant, deceitful and loud! (((
                      And his "assaults" are typical of the Talmud - he is about the elder, and he squeals about the Kiev uncle! )))
                2. Baron pardus
                  Baron pardus 8 October 2020 18: 32
                  0
                  I would like to know where Potocki takes such fierce ganjubas and mushrooms, I need it myself, but I thought and decided that the aforementioned "creator" sits firmly on something many times stronger, on a tailcoat, crocodile, crystals or something else, or the client is schizophrenic and crazy.
          4. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 8 October 2020 18: 03
            +2
            Do you deny the existence of an ethnic phenotype? Do you deny that you can distinguish a Korean, for example, from a Japanese and an Irishman from an Englishman? Not always, of course, because they were stirring, but you can tell the Pole's father's father. In the Soviet militia, even a memo was to (approximately) define the nationality. So yes, as the mishling tell you that, often, nationality can be identified by phenotype. Go back to school and teach biology. And the time-honored "art" is either charlatanism or an ugly vulgar grotesque. And at the sight of this art, the hand itself reaches for the pistol.
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 2 October 2020 20: 16
        +8
        I graduated from art school, my graduation work was on sculpture .. so this is horror! idea, image, that is, but where is the clarity of the lines? in all this sculpture there is only a clear face (and not quite) even in Dali, although who is this sculptor to make such comparisons with the Master? Dali with his surrealism, incomprehensible to many, there are no muddy paintings with one clear section, everything in the picture is about something clearly .. what does the whole "wrinkled" sculpture without clear lines symbolize? no, I don’t argue .. the artist sees this way .. someone and personal belongings to Red Square nailed .. and someone even considers it art .. to each his own .. but think about why, until the 20th century, such sculptures were not created by people ? and sculptures - passed through the centuries - have nothing to do with this and close ..
    2. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 4 October 2020 14: 42
      +1
      Well, Dali is also that fruit. Where can you see that this is a premonition of a civil war? This case, for example, can be summed up, for example, "the famous Estorian executioner-dismemberment". It fits perfectly. Although Dali's high brushwork technique is certainly evident in all of his paintings. But Yesenin's "sculpture" is generally the height of squalor. As well as "Sakharov in flippers".
  2. lucul
    lucul 2 October 2020 19: 54
    +5
    And this speaks perfectly about the cultural level of the majority of our fellow citizens.

    Potocki - re-login)))
  3. lucul
    lucul 2 October 2020 20: 19
    +2
    Oh, how smelled the decree on the magazines "Zvezda" and "Leningrad", which led to repressions against Akhmatova and Zoshchenko! How this is reminiscent of the struggle against formalism in music, which almost cost the careers of Muradeli and Shostakovich!

    Take the 19th century - the silver age of Russian poetry and literature. Then Tolstoy, Chekhov, Turgenev, Lermontov, Tyutchev, Fet and others and so on ...
    And we take the 20th century - there is practically no Russian literature and poetry .... nothing bothers you?
    It's okay, right? In their own country, the absence of their own artists.
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 2 October 2020 22: 26
      -5
      Quote: lucul
      And we take the 20th century - there is practically no Russian literature and poetry .... nothing bothers you?

      No, it doesn't bother. There are many glorious names in Soviet and Russian poetry of the 20th century, and it's not their fault that you don't read. Akhmatova, Tsvetaeva, Akhmadulina, Yevtushenko, Brodsky ... I can continue, would you like? And there are a great many writers. And composers. And scientists. If it were not for the Shvonders of all levels, who have nothing behind their souls except "proletarian instinct", it would be even more.
      1. lucul
        lucul 2 October 2020 23: 37
        +4
        And we take the 20th century - there is practically no Russian literature and poetry .... nothing bothers you?

        I missed the letter B here (editing is limited in time), because of this, a blurry meaning of the phrase appeared - it will be correct:
        And take the 20th century - there are practically no Russians in literature and poetry .... nothing bothers you?
        There are many glorious names in Soviet and Russian poetry of the 20th century, and it's not their fault that you don't read

        I repeat the question - where are the Russians, among these leaders? The occupation of the cultural sphere is complete. What kind of development of the country can we talk about if all cultural figures are foreigners.
        Roughly speaking - "they are terribly far from the people" ...
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 3 October 2020 10: 41
          -4
          Quote: lucul
          What kind of development of the country can we talk about if all cultural figures are foreigners.
          Roughly speaking - "they are terribly far from the people" ...

          Which one of those named do you consider foreigners? Akhmatov? Brodsky? Maybe Sholokhova? Evtushenko?
          Explain, dear. However, I can guess where you are driving. Disgusting.
          1. lucul
            lucul 3 October 2020 17: 34
            0
            Which one of those named do you consider foreigners? Akhmatov? Brodsky?

            Tyutchev, Fet, Pushkin wrote about Russia and for the glory of Russia. Russia served as their inspiration.
            Akhmatova, Tsvetaeva and other foreigners wrote about anything, but not about Russia, straight cosmopolitans, not Russians, which is not surprising.
            However, I guess where you are going

            You don't see trees in the forest, however, what is there to be surprised at - you are one of the foreigners.
            Farewell.
            1. astepanov
              astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 24
              -1
              Well, if Akhmatova and Tsvetaeva are foreigners for you, then where are you writing from? From America? From Poland? I'm sure you've never read them, Mr. Shvonder.
              Quote: lucul
              Russia served as their inspiration.

              A Russian person would never have written such a phrase. Russia cannot "serve as inspiration", it can be a source of inspiration. And such a "connoisseur of poetry" climbs with teachings ...
        2. Siberian54
          Siberian54 5 October 2020 11: 52
          +1
          sholokhov .. undeservedly slandered by the Jewish weekly "light" "in disaster-glasnost
      2. Siberian54
        Siberian54 5 October 2020 11: 48
        0
        Brodsky ?? and whoever reads it more than the school program ????? soldier
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 25
          -1
          Well, if you don't read, then of course ...
    2. tacet
      tacet 6 October 2020 14: 02
      +1
      The Turgenevs and Tyutchevs are Tatar clans, Fet is Danish, but Russified. You perceive them as Russians, so on what basis do you deny this to Akhmatova and Roerich?
  4. Siberian54
    Siberian54 5 October 2020 11: 45
    0
    About "" dom2 "" - at the beginning of this project they wrote the same thing with the same vocabulary, and how in this case the case will live and some Jew will receive money for it ..
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 27
      0
      You, nazik, first learn to place punctuation marks, and then reason. Disgrace walking.
      1. Siberian54
        Siberian54 5 October 2020 13: 13
        0
        So what ? Pototsky Pole ????
  5. vVvAD
    vVvAD 5 October 2020 15: 03
    0
    I don’t know where the formalism is here, because something is not visible "prohibit and not let go" - just ordinary popular anger. They will still defend him so that they do not throw stones at him.
  • astepanov
    astepanov 2 October 2020 16: 55
    -6
    Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
    it's a shame.

    In gives! Quotes Shvonder literally!
  • valton
    valton 2 October 2020 19: 12
    +6
    I.V. Stalin would quickly bring this evil spirits to life!
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 5 October 2020 12: 41
      -1
      And he brought it. Gumilyov was shot, Akhmatova was no longer published, Yesenin and Mayakovsky were driven to suicide (or killed), Pasternak was persecuted, Brodsky died in exile ... Continue the list of "brought to life", eh, dear art experts? Maybe list the artists, composers, filmmakers, screenwriters, directors? Or should I mention scientists - hundreds of them were worn out, especially biologists and chemists? You are Ivans who do not remember kinship. Your peak in understanding music is the song "My Bunny, I'm Your Bunny", the limit in painting is "Hunters at Rest". You divide everyone on the basis of "Jew - not Jew". I just can't believe that such a thing could have been born of the fathers who finished off the Nazis in Berlin.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 8 October 2020 18: 22
        0
        Little Stalin brought up. Art must first of all educate the people. If art and creativity does not work for the country or works against it, such "creativity" is not needed. The creators of the "Brigade", "Bastards", "House-2" and other ideological and cultural subversive material, I would simply send to hard labor, for about 10 years. USA, for 25 years the country has simply degraded into trash. And most of the "innocent victims" you listed were either mentally ill, or drunks and drug addicts, or outright traitors (like Plisetskaya). By the way, nobody poisoned Vysotsky, and he put himself on the coke.
      2. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 8 October 2020 18: 22
        +1
        Little Stalin brought up. Art must first of all educate the people. If art and creativity does not work for the country or works against it, such "creativity" is not needed. The creators of the "Brigade", "Bastards", "House-2" and other ideological and cultural subversive material, I would simply send to hard labor, for about 10 years. USA, for 25 years the country has simply degraded into trash. And most of the "innocent victims" you listed were either mentally ill, or drunks and drug addicts, or outright traitors (like Plisetskaya). By the way, nobody poisoned Vysotsky, and he put himself on the coke.
  • stalki
    stalki 2 October 2020 10: 43
    +3
    There was talk that the Pndus somehow began to treat the Russians worse. And then what will happen? No need to embarrass yourself ---- India is a populous country, developing in addition.
    Well, why, they just understand. For them, Bollywood is an art. laughing
  • depressant
    depressant 2 October 2020 11: 33
    13
    Dima, I support! India is a country chock-full of temples, tens if not hundreds of thousands of them, each adorned with many superb stylized sculptures. For this reason, any ordinary Indian has a developed artistic taste. To send such misery to this country is to expose yourself to ridicule.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 2 October 2020 15: 04
      +2
      Quote: depressant
      India is a country chock-full of temples, tens if not hundreds of thousands of them, each adorned with many superb stylized sculptures. For this reason, any ordinary Indian has a developed artistic taste.

      cause and effect vice versa.
      artists (in the broadest sense of the word) are always a mirror of culture.
      looking at the ugliness of Art Nouveau, one should not blame the half-mad artists.

      looking at these works we look at canaries warning us of the decline of our culture.
      Unfortunately, it is not possible to stop the degradation. Our civilizations will fall as before, and new ones will appear on their dust. hello to Athens, Rome and many others. we are walking.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 3 October 2020 17: 23
      +2
      Thank you, Lyudmila!
      Quote: depressant
      Dima, I support! India is a country chock-full of temples, tens if not hundreds of thousands of them, each adorned with many superb stylized sculptures. For this reason, any ordinary Indian has a developed artistic taste. To send such misery to this country is to expose yourself to ridicule.
      Just now I found your comment, the bell is not always ..
      Yes, yes. There is a Kailasanatha temple in Elura, a Kailasanatha temple in Hastinapura, etc. Images of Gods are images of ideal people (not counting the Divine attributes of course). And such a figure would be considered an image of a demon punished for evil deeds!
  • napalm
    napalm 3 October 2020 17: 08
    +3
    I wonder what the Indians will think looking at this "masterpiece"? Probably they will remember their mythology, associate with some kind of rickshasa. It would be good to say ours and not let go back.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 3 October 2020 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: napalm
      I wonder what the Indians will think looking at this "masterpiece"? Probably they will remember their mythology, associate with some kind of rickshasa. It would be good to say ours and not let go back.

      They also have pisachas and yakshas. Those villains!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 October 2020 10: 33
    14
    sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he "saw this way" "the fall and ascension of Yesenin."
    If Pototskov, in a simple, folk way, stuff his face to the state of zhzhzhzh ..., will his correct vision be restored? I'm sure yes. roles on the frontal place and tore nostrils ...... Eh, holy times. request
    1. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 38
      11
      If Pototskov, in a simple, folk way, stuff his face to the state of zhzhzhzh ...

      It is necessary to collect a petition for the demolition of these deformities.
      Have you seen a lot in Israel of ugly monuments to their outstanding figures? Shall we say Jacob, Moses or Solomon?
      To take it all to hell is enough to shame the nation.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 2 October 2020 12: 11
        +7
        There is nothing surprising in these deformities being passed off as * a new vision * or there * a new reading * there. There is no talent, but the ambition is sea, so they show off to the best of their insolence, and everything is only for the sake of a scandal, especially since they also pay generously for it. In the face, they still won't give it, and the rest is just for joy.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 2 October 2020 13: 08
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Sergei Bezrukov kept quiet (being clearly not delighted with what he saw), then the actress Maria Shukshina called the statue not just "outrage", but also "blasphemy".

    Khrushchev did or said little good, but his description of all kinds of "avant-garde artists" was quite to the point.
    https://www.liveinternet.ru/community/3299606/post335300692/
    1. Temples
      Temples 2 October 2020 14: 24
      +5
      They are not artists.
      These are drug addicts.

      Where is drug control looking?
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 October 2020 21: 07
    0
    How can you, in general, discuss ABOUT THIS? !!! However, how can IT be attributed to art?
    If "creation" raises questions, then it is definitely not a work.
  • SHURUM -BURUM
    SHURUM -BURUM 3 October 2020 15: 43
    +3
    It surprises me - how can such horror be sculpted without attracting the attention of orderlies?
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 5 October 2020 04: 33
    +2
    "Why the hell am I a poet!
    And without me in abundance of rubbish!
    Let me die, Only ... No,
    Do not erect a monument in Ryazan "

    Apparently he had a premonition ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2020 10: 06
    15
    Sick people, sick fantasies ... sick people and those who put it on public display !!!
    1. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 15
      12
      Sick people, sick fantasies ... sick people and those who put it on public display !!!

      In a healthy body healthy mind.
      The authors of these sculptural deformities are ugly and soul inside, deeply, scary to think what deviations in the psyche are happening in their heads. To the authors' psychiatrist ....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 October 2020 10: 21
        +9
        Quote: lucul
        To the authors' psychiatrist ....

        They have long been crowded together ... the audience is shrill, aggressive, and besides, someone else is listening to them ... closer to the top.
        Tfu, disgusting.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 2 October 2020 10: 36
          21
          Quote: rocket757
          Tfu, disgusting.

          The author did not provide an image of the sculpture in Penza, I will allow myself to supplement the article, I hope I will not call him negative.
          By the way, the people of Penza called it a centaur full of holes, while others, looking at his face, said: So this is Lyokha, poor fellow, our poisoner!
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 2 October 2020 10: 49
            +3
            Quote: Anatole Klim

            By the way, the people of Penza called it a centaur full of holes, while others, looking at his face, said: So this is Lyokha, poor fellow, our poisoner!

            Just reminded ...
          2. NDR-791
            NDR-791 2 October 2020 10: 53
            +6
            The author did not provide an image of the sculpture in Penza, I will allow myself to supplement the article, I hope I will not call him negative.
            It's good that the article came out almost in the morning. If by nightfall with such art, yes with such pictures ...
          3. rocket757
            rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 22
            +8
            No, I don't understand all this. How could such a thing happen that the contingent of ward No. 6 was released and manages to take out the brains of normal people .... with the help of the same ones who sat down in all sorts of services allowing and encouraging ???
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 3 October 2020 17: 36
              +3
              Quote: rocket757
              ...... How could such a thing happen that the contingent of ward No. 6 was released and manages to take out the brains of normal people .... with the help of the same ones, who sat down in all kinds of services allowing and encouraging ???
              How could it? The answer is - liberal, tolerant, gay-European, Russophobic, apolitical! And most importantly ---- WITHOUT IDEOLOGY! That's what.
              Have a great weekend, Victor! hi
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 3 October 2020 17: 50
                +1
                Pseudo ideologies end quickly, a truly promising ideology is rare.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 3 October 2020 18: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Pseudo ideologies end quickly, a truly promising ideology is rare.

                  You see, Victor! After all, this is not pseudo-ideology. This is a concrete capitalist ideology. Deafening, dehumanizing, as written above. The ideology of fooling Before the abyss, it will cripple many.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 3 October 2020 19: 43
                    +1
                    Their "idiology" is so clumsy at the moment! I don't know what will be left of her in the end. One thing is clear, as it will not be before. Of those scraps that remain, nothing comprehensible to blind, this is unlikely.
                    They will roll by inertia, but where is the question.
                    So the countries will not fall apart, there is a type of bond, but it’s impossible to imagine how they will develop.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 3 October 2020 21: 04
                      +1
                      in my opinion, the trick here is that there is no ideology. And she is both servants and giving orders. And the goal is quite definite. ... obedient repentant slaves.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 4 October 2020 09: 17
                        +1
                        The propaganda, the media, and the politicians did not work badly for them, for the time being ... but now, when the elite got up among themselves, there was some confusion in society, there is also a terrible infection, a crisis in the economy.
                        They like that have already passed and the consequences for the world were terrible ...
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 4 October 2020 12: 15
                        +1
                        ..... the elites got up among themselves. .....
                        yes they are not something between, they are in general. ..... after all, this figure, to consider it in a complex ---- and Dmitriev, a historian, and a Petersburg professor, and Efremov, and a director who stole millions ....... it's like a lump rolling down the mountain increasing In our case, .----- a lump not from snow, but from another ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 4 October 2020 12: 46
                        +1
                        Another crisis! There are simply more components, directions in it more than usual.
                        Events are gaining strength, speed .... will it reach a critical mass ???
                        We'll see soon.
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 4 October 2020 18: 44
                        +2
                        This is a bacchanalia, some kind of obscurantism.
                        As if the worst, the nastiest things are realizing themselves ... am am
  • Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 2 October 2020 10: 45
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    They have long been bunched together ...

    And what prevents normal people from getting bunched together?
    Why don't normal people want to clump together and defend their rights?
    Why doesn't the outrage go beyond comments on the internet?
    Here they write in the article:
    Demands to bring to justice those responsible persons who allowed and welcomed the installation of the monstrous "creation" in a public place, and questions about how much budget money was spent on "this nightmare" also prevail among the reviews.

    That is, these requirements and questions are addressed to the air and are not addressed to anyone in particular.
    Why are these requirements not addressed to those "people's representatives" for whom they voted?
    Why were they chosen?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 23
      0
      Quote: Hlavaty
      And what prevents normal people from getting bunched together?
      Why don't normal people want to clump together and defend their rights?
      Why doesn't the outrage go beyond comments on the internet?

      THIS IS TRUE! this is our trouble and our big STUPIDITY!
  • BMP-2
    BMP-2 2 October 2020 12: 10
    0
    Well, what, he correctly said about the check :)). Those who liked it did not pass the test for adequacy ...
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 2 October 2020 10: 19
    11

    According to the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he "saw it this way"
    to put this "masterpiece" on the author's grave. a rapid fall into the abyss, degradation, even a blind person is visible. everywhere. in the cinema, in the theater, on stage and on the radio, "songs" generally cause heartache and gnashing of teeth. the world is going crazy ... and we laugh at the west ...
    1. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 21
      -2
      a rapid fall into the abyss, degradation, even a blind person is visible. everywhere. in the cinema, in the theater, on stage and on the radio, "songs" generally cause heartache and gnashing of teeth. the world is going crazy ... and we laugh at the west ...

      The main thing is that there is no ideology)))
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 2 October 2020 10: 25
        +3
        Quote: lucul
        a rapid fall into the abyss, degradation, even a blind person is visible. everywhere. in the cinema, in the theater, on stage and on the radio, "songs" generally cause heartache and gnashing of teeth. the world is going crazy ... and we laugh at the west ...

        The main thing is that there is no ideology)))

        and it seems there is to make the people a dull herd.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 2 October 2020 10: 54
      +2
      Quote: Dead Day

      According to the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he "saw it this way"
      to put this "masterpiece" on the author's grave. a rapid fall into the abyss, degradation, even a blind person is visible. everywhere. in the cinema, in the theater, on stage and on the radio, "songs" generally cause heartache and gnashing of teeth. the world is going crazy ... and we laugh at the west ...

      Also reminded ...
      1. RMT
        RMT 2 October 2020 14: 14
        +1
        Bad example. Everyone who saw the "checkered" one recognized him.
    3. Egor53
      Egor53 2 October 2020 18: 50
      +1
      Dear Dedkastary!
      Your proposal to "put this masterpiece on the grave of the author" is completely unacceptable. There are also other graves in the cemetery, and one should not offend the feelings of relatives of normal deceased.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 2 October 2020 10: 31
    +4
    Quote: rocket757
    Sick people, sick fantasies ... sick people and those who put it on public display !!!

    What are we talking about, is there really not a single disagreement from the entire chain from design, creation to establishment?
    Let all these names be printed, also the positions. The people should know
    1. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 41
      +1
      Let all these names be printed, also the positions. The people should know

      And dismiss all those involved in the installation (permission), with maximum publicity in the press - so that others would not disdain
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 30
      +1
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Let all these names be printed, also the positions. The people should know

      Ha, ha, keep your pocket wider ... they will immediately scream about the INVALIDITY of "personal information" .... although their posts are PUBLIC !!!
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 2 October 2020 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        ...... they will scream about the INVALIDITY of "personal information" .... although their posts are PUBLIC !!!
        Victor, I don't need their addresses and phone numbers. But, as the vice-governors, as well as the higher ones, surely put their signatures. That's what!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 40
          0
          Believe me, the highest officials Pts are rarely aware of everything and everything happens .... rather, the figures are smaller, more muddy.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 2 October 2020 11: 43
            +2
            I won't argue with you, because I can't even imagine, but given the location --- I doubt it.
            All the more it would be nice to know the names laughing
  • bober1982
    bober1982 2 October 2020 10: 38
    +5
    Quote: rocket757
    Sick people, sick fantasies ... sick people and those who put it on public display !!!

    I do not agree, these are not even sick people at all, but even very smart.
    They work competently, it is necessary, so to speak, to methodically bring people to an animal state.
    Here, by the way, we must pay tribute to Khrushchev, this one and, in terms of expression, was not shy about such creations and, the bulldozer was driven to the place of events.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 October 2020 11: 34
      +3
      Quote: bober1982
      I do not agree, these are not even sick people at all, but even very smart.

      Sure! I am always "touched" when I hear the statement that fools are sitting on top, and even the one who said would have done BETTER !!!
      I always remember about the fool from the lane who is "fool, fool, but HAS her own three-piece every day !!!"
      What a paradox! A whole country of geniuses, thinkers, and so on (as many of their beloved think about themselves) and in the country what the hell!
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 2 October 2020 11: 44
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        Here is such a paradox!

        The fact of the matter is that there are no paradoxes.
        All this creativity began not today, not yesterday, and not in Penza.
        Remember Ilf and Petrov, when Agafya Tikhonovna from the play "Marriage" rode along the tightrope, which puzzled Kisa Vorobyaninov, who was accustomed to the classics, although this is of course just a tiny episode from the big picture.
        People work, they don't sit there.
        1. depressant
          depressant 2 October 2020 12: 12
          +4
          The other day I watched a video: the photographer is shooting endless distances with forests and copses from a steep, very high bank of the river. And here on you - from the forest behind, a bear appeared. Without looking at the photographer, he sat down next to a folding chair and began to admire the landscape. And I do not make a reservation: just like that! He admired! That was the expression on his face, and he had enough ozone in the forest. And then he just got up and left. Filled with grace, he did not even attempt to attack the photographer. Does this mean that animals also have a sense of beauty?
          Destroying the feeling of beauty, for which almost every person has a craving, they dehumanize us, turning us into those species of animals that do not have it: rats, mice, cockroaches, scavengers, parasites swarming in waste. Such people can be poisoned, shot, they will not object.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 2 October 2020 12: 19
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            we are dehumanized, turning into those kinds of animals

            Yes, that's right, here's the answer - why is all this idiot needed.
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 2 October 2020 10: 06
    10
    The allegory incorporated by Potocki into his "creation" is understandable, but ... it's a pity that the poet's wings were broken, not the sculptor's hands!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 2 October 2020 10: 34
      +3
      The author has not only arms, he has many bones in his skeleton ...
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      The allegory incorporated by Potocki into his "creation" is understandable, but ... it's a pity that the poet's wings were broken, not the sculptor's hands!
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 October 2020 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      The allegory incorporated by Potocki into his "creation" is understandable, but ... it's a pity that the poet's wings were broken, not the sculptor's hands!

      And be sure to roll your neck! angry
  • forester1971
    forester1971 2 October 2020 10: 07
    +6
    It seems that some of our creative bohemians are hidden masochists - they like to provoke people with their ugly creations, and then wring their hands and lament that they have not been understood again.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 October 2020 10: 22
      10
      Why hidden? They don't hide anything. And they could not, the wrong people. You understand. Talent has to be paid. And for this dirty trick, you can add 50 million, and take 45 for yourself, leaving the "creator" five for diligence. Since he is a mediocre junk, he will meekly sign all the papers, and will remain silent as if he had been shot. He no longer has any chance, except for such deals.
      That is why our streets are covered with shit, our screens are covered with shit, all the domineering creativity in the field of culture and art is shit from top to bottom. It's difficult with creators, and you have to pay them. And with waste it's easy, and you can take the money for yourself. That's the whole mystery ...
    2. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 28
      0
      It seems that some of our creative bohemians are hidden masochists - they like to provoke people with their ugly creations,

      They are the ones who make fun of the goyim ...
  • Woodman
    Woodman 2 October 2020 10: 08
    +7
    You really have to do something about this ... These are not sculptures - they are moral ugliness. It is high time to introduce some kind of censorship for such things.
    1. Egor53
      Egor53 2 October 2020 18: 56
      +2
      Unfortunately, the introduction of censorship will not improve the situation. The censors, sooner or later, will get these same potots. The more elastic a person's conscience, the more chances he has to get into censors.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 2 October 2020 10: 09
    +8
    I do not understand why the officials who sign the payment for all this gimmick have not been fired yet
    1. lucul
      lucul 2 October 2020 10: 12
      +1
      I do not understand why the officials who sign the payment for all this gimmick have not been fired yet

      Are you an anti-Semite? )))
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 2 October 2020 10: 14
        +8
        I have no complaints about sculptors. Let them do what they want. I have complaints against those who spend budget money on outright crap.
        1. lucul
          lucul 2 October 2020 10: 19
          -10 qualifying.
          I have complaints against those who spend budget money on outright crap.

          Have you met the USSR? Ever since that time, it was considered a special courage for an official to harm the state. Still - after all, he will get nothing for it ...
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 2 October 2020 10: 25
            +5
            I found it. and just an official could easily fly in for the game.
            In the ministries in the MSC, they could somehow hide through intermediaries, but in the field, through local party committees and workers' councils of organizations, they could very often get a hat and receive.
            My mother was a deputy for 2 years, I saw it with my own eyes, as they say, from the first row.
            But in the Asian republics it was probably not so good - there corruption in the 70s was already off scale.
            1. qwest32
              qwest32 11 October 2020 19: 05
              0
              In recent years, in the USSR, at the suggestion of Mecheny, almost all barriers to all nits, leeches, ghouls, ghouls and other abomination were removed, which they willingly used. .. (((
              For which other ghouls were very, very grateful to them ... (((
      2. qwest32
        qwest32 10 October 2020 04: 43
        +1
        Wee, nevertheless, rightly groped the source of "anti-simitism"! :-)
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 October 2020 10: 15
    +4
    A dash should be used in the title instead of "or". It will be so right.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 2 October 2020 10: 22
    +9
    If such "sculptors" have the opportunity to indulge in their "visions", then their "sculpting" provides them with a stable income, since the modern "bohemia" is not completely adapted to hardships.
    I am far from thinking that the state is buying up the whole mass of "masterpieces" that are being created today by numerous writers, sculptors, and other "absurd writers". So someone buys all these "products" from them. providing the ability to function comfortably.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 2 October 2020 10: 36
      +8
      as? well, just how, before could they create Such ... what happened to humanity?


      1. Undecim
        Undecim 2 October 2020 10: 49
        +6
        Such ... what has become of humanity?
        There are two options. Either evolution or degradation. An intermediate option is possible - evolution degradation or degradation of evolution.
      2. iouris
        iouris 2 October 2020 14: 40
        -1
        If there is no God, then everything is allowed.
    2. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 2 October 2020 10: 54
      +4
      Quote: Undecim
      So someone buys all these "products" from them.

      Most likely this is part of a psychological war: to support the ugly and drown the beautiful.
      And the war is well financed.
      It is a pity that the Russian Federation is not waging its own war. It would be interesting and very revealing if the special services traced the money that came to these creators. And then these connections were made public. I am sure that very interesting sources have been discovered there. And the "creators" would become very uncomfortable.
      It is necessary to complicate the financing of such "creators". It is very bad that our normal people can hardly make ends meet, and such "creators" live well and richly. By his example, showing that for a good life one must engage in such a perversion, and not normal creative activity.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 2 October 2020 11: 16
        +2
        And the war is well financed.
        This is, excuse me, paranoia that someone finances all this from somewhere, sends, exposes, and so on. Such "creativity" is now widespread throughout the world. And who is fighting with whom?
        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 2 October 2020 11: 31
          +4
          Quote: Undecim
          Such "creativity" is widespread throughout the world today. And who is fighting with whom?

          Everywhere capital is at war with the people. Capital benefits from illiterate consumers who do not have their own moral criteria for assessing reality, who easily believe in everything that is told and shown to them. Such "art" blurs the guidelines - how can one distinguish real art from drunken delirium. If a noisy and aggressive minority convinces everyone that this is "art", then many can take it. And if a person does not have his own guidelines, then he can be shoved with anything - from gaskets to presidents.
          This is the "art" of managing the masses.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 2 October 2020 12: 22
            +2
            The fact that fools are easier to control is well known, and these people use them intensively and, moreover, successfully.
            The question is that some individuals are convinced that this is done exclusively "from there" and "someone".
            1. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 2 October 2020 18: 42
              +2
              Quote: Undecim
              The question is that some individuals are convinced that this is done exclusively "from there" and "someone".

              And this is also present. The capitalists are also waging a fierce war among themselves. In this case, Western capital is not averse to crushing the entire territory of the former USSR. And he has both the strength and the finances for this. So why shouldn't he fight?
    3. qwest32
      qwest32 11 October 2020 21: 12
      0
      I think everything is much simpler - just another way to undress the budget of the Russian Federation, and even to spoil the people, whom they are trying hard to get around ... I would not be surprised if I find out about this "ARTIST" and pederastic motives ... o_O
  • Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 2 October 2020 10: 25
    +1
    And I think the monument to Sakharov is good, although they are all extremely strange. Rolls can be seen stably, that's the reason for the popularity
  • Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 2 October 2020 10: 27
    +4
    The impression is that among these creators the fashion is, the weirder, the better. There has long been an opinion that behind the excuse "I am an artist - as I see it" is an elementary mediocrity.
    And ideologically, broken wings are not the best characteristic of the poet's image, which we imagine when remembering Yesenin. Where is the reflection of love for the Native Side? Where is riotousness? Recklessness at last. Where is the Moscow naughty reveler? Here talent is needed, not a sick imagination. Here nirazu Yesenin is not associated with a corpse on alegoric props-wings.
  • Sentinel-vs
    Sentinel-vs 2 October 2020 10: 29
    +7
    The current trend is mediocrity and devil-may-care censure to pass off as a kind of "peculiar look of an artist." This is not art, but primitivism, ignorance and mediocrity. Compare with these famous sculptures, where softness, tenderness and weightlessness are conveyed in the stone.

  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 October 2020 10: 35
    +4
    “According to the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he“ saw ”“ the fall and ascension of Yesenin like that. ”“ You need to stop drinking and go to the ophthalmologist so that you don't see all the dregs. And then their hands will grow out of the priests and "see", you understand! Michelangelo's divorced like a hen. It's time to thin out.
  • Barnabas
    Barnabas 2 October 2020 10: 43
    +3
    What a terrible "sculpture". I would not like to see this in the dark ...
    Only here I have a question: don't all these officials and invited celebrities know what the monument looks like, the opening of which they come to, and for which they prepare speeches? Just how can you prepare a speech about something if you don't even know what is depicted there?
    PS But Bezrukov is great - if you don't want to lose your place at the trough, keep quiet so that you cannot be misunderstood.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 2 October 2020 10: 44
    +3
    Another brother of Kirill Serebrennikov with a gay ...
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 October 2020 10: 47
    -5
    I don't understand why on VO - to publish such articles? This is clearly not a collection of Art critics request
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 2 October 2020 10: 50
      +4
      An ideological war is underway. Read the book CIA and the art world ...
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 2 October 2020 11: 01
        0
        I will answer you differently ... as a child, when I saw a painting by Vincent Van Gogh and learned its value, I was very surprised belay as thought such "squalor" can cost so much? Grew up ... went through many stages of life, became interested in painting. At the present time, with great pleasure I visit museums in all countries where I visit, Van Gogh's painting - I really like it!
        My comment was that everyone should do their own thing and this is not a topic for discussion at VO. hi
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 2 October 2020 11: 09
          +4
          "it turned out that modernism, postmodernism and other things, like multi-colored squares, suddenly became a symbol of freedom, and now we see" free "art in almost every film. And if a classic canvas hangs behind the back of the movie boss, then there is almost no doubt that the boss is some Don Carleone, or, at worst, the devil himself. " (from)
          Ideological war goes unnoticed, but the damage from it is comparable to atomic weapons.
          The USSR possessed a strong army, but lost the ideological war and was destroyed.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 2 October 2020 11: 17
            +2
            I agree! Therefore, this area should be the lot of professionals, the rest, if they wish, can buy a ticket (if interested) and get acquainted!
            If now we were not discussing these sculptures, but let's say the Black Square by Kazimir Malevich or Chagall's paintings - the comments would be exactly the same! yes However, their works are recognized all over the World! By the way, the Russian Museum has one of the largest collections of both one and the other good !
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 2 October 2020 11: 32
              +1
              I was in the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, I liked his canvases ...
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 2 October 2020 11: 38
                +1
                I was too! good even bought a book there about his work in Russian! Museum - Great!
            2. astepanov
              astepanov 5 October 2020 16: 56
              +1
              Come on, it's all as one - folk art critics, Vox populi vox Dei. Something like Trofim Lysenko, only from art. You don’t tell them about Chagall, this pack will immediately yell that Chagall and Malevich are Jews. Actually, they have already cried out. And about Brodsky, and about Pasternak, and even about Akhmatova and Tsvetaeva: they say, foreigners. What to take from this pack, representatives of the intellectual majority. Here, on the neighboring branch, about the Armenian-Azerbaijani massacre, they agreed that, they say, the historical and cultural path of the people is predetermined by haplogroups. In general, most are ready to run with compasses, measure facial angles and cull, except that instead of compasses, a DNA sequencing machine. That's it. And you tell them about Chagall ... They need to show documents about the war so that they understand what the application of the rules of dog shows to people leads to.
    2. Egor53
      Egor53 2 October 2020 19: 03
      +1
      Hunter.
      "I don't understand why on VO - to publish such articles? This is clearly not a collection of Art critics"

      In your opinion, Hunter, art is understood and loved only by Art critics?
      In the VO, many issues are raised not only on weapons, and rightly so. A person who does not understand and does not love art is incomplete.
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 2 October 2020 11: 13
    +2
    You dig a carrot - you must come across several such "installations" that are clumsy. They say mutation. Maybe all these "modern art makers" too, with the wrong head mutation?
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 2 October 2020 11: 22
    +3
    He is an artist, he sees so ... laughing On the other hand, everything is simplified, the music becomes primitive, cinema is the same, theatrical performances the ceiling of primitivism, that is how many modern classical performances have been watched, good actors, and the costumes, the scenery are poor, and not because they see it like that, the means are limited ... Maybe , Pototsky and won the competition for the creation of the monument to Yesenin, because he offered the lowest price .. and it worked, what happened?
  • prior
    prior 2 October 2020 11: 31
    +2
    In a country with a mutated ideology, the perception of reality mutated.
  • depressant
    depressant 2 October 2020 11: 49
    +4
    I saw a photo of a "centaur" in Penza. Said "Oh!" Indecent associations crept into my head. At the sight of the naked sculptures of Apollo, Hercules, David, and others, for some reason, one does not feel shame and even simple awkwardness. And then you involuntarily ask the question: how did the "sculptor" do it? So much so that the poor fellow, who nailed his genitals to the paving stones, looked much more decent at the end of the work than this "miracle"? Well this is what kind of talent one must have in order to bring indecency to the maximum possible extent. Children go there!
    Who is the head of the Administration in Penza? Let him be photographed next to the "sculpture" and the snapshot here, on VO.
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 3 October 2020 22: 34
      +1
      Quote: depressant
      I saw a photo of a "centaur" in Penza. Said "Oh!"

      laughing The face really looks like Navalny. In this context, it will do! True, it would be better to remove this "creation" from a public place ...
      By the way, they scold this "sculptor" above for the blurred lines, etc. So - the horse's back is very clear-cut and quite realistic. If only someone would tell Pototsky that horse asses are just his, he does it well. And he shouldn't take on anything else.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 2 October 2020 11: 55
    +2
    I do not understand such "art" at all.
    And also the words "I see it this way." First, learn to sculpt, draw (write) not "as I see", but as it really is. And these figures, in my opinion, simply do not know how .. But show off above the roof.
  • Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 2 October 2020 11: 56
    +4
    Art is sculpture in Volgograd - the Motherland is calling.
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 2 October 2020 12: 10
      +2
      Here! And in the comments above there is also a photo, this is art.
      And what is in the article is, excuse me, some kind of militant squalor.
  • Pavel Amarok
    Pavel Amarok 2 October 2020 12: 15
    +2
    The "sculptor" himself would be poured into concrete for such art.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 2 October 2020 12: 20
    +2
    Almost according to Stalin: Unfortunately, there are no other "sculptors" in Russia now. Some squalor jamb from the activities of such "sculptors".
  • Kushka
    Kushka 2 October 2020 12: 22
    +3
    Ale, Vitek, hello! What are you going to do in the evening?
    - I haven't decided yet, maybe in a movie, or maybe I'll get drunk.
    -Why is it so?
    -I am an artist, as I see it
  • grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 2 October 2020 12: 47
    +1
    And even to India

    Preferably in the form of a bronze ingot after melting. And to the "author" to issue a new passport with a dash in the lines of his full name, so that all officials would be clear on the move - there is NOTHING in front of them!
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 2 October 2020 13: 00
    +4
    When a person talks about a "new look" and "art is not for everyone" - this means that he is hopelessly mediocre.
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 2 October 2020 13: 25
    0
    Is this "sculptor" healthy at all? It would be necessary to ask a comrade for a reference, maybe he needs to allocate a bed for a long time in Kaschenko ...))
    1. aglet
      aglet 2 October 2020 15: 51
      0
      "And this" sculptor "is healthy in general? I should ask a comrade for a reference, maybe he has to allocate a bed for a long time in Kaschenko ...))"
      help should be asked from those who allowed this squalor to be delivered. the sculptor did not blinded it and set it up himself, there were still many instances, including the Ministry of Culture, where professional and cultural people work
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 2 October 2020 18: 22
        0
        Well, for those, too, you can) But it was he who blinded, and exactly the way he "sees", but this somehow does not seem to be the norm) you need to either wipe the zenks, or four sulphs of the cube))
        1. aglet
          aglet 2 October 2020 18: 23
          0
          I agree with the methods of treatment. and take away the plasticine from him
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 2 October 2020 13: 26
    -1
    The first photo shows a very good monument. These are rare in our country. Still very good in Rzhev, be sure to visit. The photo does not convey the emotions that arise. This is probably the best monument in the world! If you don't understand and forbid, then you can forbid everything, it depends on taste, I don't like ballet, for example
  • AAK
    AAK 2 October 2020 14: 05
    +2
    I absolutely agree with the assessment of these freaks by colleagues. On my own behalf, I will add (personal opinion) the personality of Sakharov, for me, it is precisely such a monument that deserves, it would only be installed in the cemetery ...
  • pin_code
    pin_code 2 October 2020 14: 07
    +1
    to demolish misery, return the money to the treasury: to the sculptor, the money givers and the project approvers. chipped in and returned the budget to the treasury.
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 2 October 2020 15: 10
      +7
      And the prohibition, to the author, on such a "creation" in the future.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 2 October 2020 14: 52
    -2
    Quote: AAK
    I absolutely agree with the assessment of these freaks by colleagues. On my own behalf, I will add (personal opinion) the personality of Sakharov, for me, it is precisely such a monument that deserves, it would only be installed in the cemetery ...

    Do you know about art?
    1. AAK
      AAK 2 October 2020 19: 24
      +1
      Not a professional art critic, but I can distinguish Dürer from Bosch and Filonov from Kandinsky
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 2 October 2020 15: 00
    -3
    Quote: Temples
    They are not artists.
    These are drug addicts.

    Where is drug control looking?

    You don't understand art, but you are trying to judge. The monument to Peter 1 is really horrible. 3 photos are not visible, I would have fined for such bad photos. And the first photo is really a masterpiece! If you need an exact copy, then there are 3D printers for this and you don't need to tie it to art.
  • Baskak
    Baskak 2 October 2020 15: 08
    11
    This ugly perversion can never be art.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 2 October 2020 15: 19
    +1
    Yeah. The head of a humanoid was attached to Peter the Great. As for Sergei Yesenin, it seems that our contemporaries decided to show all his negative features and put into circulation. Even in Wikipedia his only poetry is indicated. Although he has prose in three volumes. If he led riotous life, when would he write all this?
  • tacet
    tacet 2 October 2020 16: 51
    +1
    Mr. Pototsky is aiming at Pavlensky's place !?
  • Wilderness
    Wilderness 2 October 2020 16: 59
    +3
    Judging by the legs of the "sculpture", this is a plagiarism of the painting "The Sower" from the movie "12 Chairs". Well, where "... Tell Kisa, as an artist to an artist - can you draw?"
  • BAI
    BAI 2 October 2020 18: 01
    -1
    the monument erected by this date in the courtyard of the Moscow Museum of the great Russian poet.

    Was this "monument" made of shit by chance? This material is now fashionable and in demand in the new "art".
  • Egor53
    Egor53 2 October 2020 18: 41
    +1
    The monument to Sakharov is just brilliant! It reflects the moral character of the great human rights defender very accurately.
    Still, Lyusya Bonner (Sakharov's long-term second wife) should be sculpted side by side in the same form.
    It is a pity that Pototsky did not have enough genius for this ... or maybe they just did not give money.
    It would be necessary for him, Pototsky, to order Navalny, and Nemtsov with Novodvorskaya on his knees.
  • infantry76
    infantry76 2 October 2020 19: 55
    +1
    Comrades gentlemen!
    If this is a flight of the warrior's creative imagination, then such "creations" should be exhibited at private personal exhibitions or in the "Museum of the Inflamed Artist's Fantasy", if there is one, or create it at their own expense, but not the state.
    The classics of Russian literature and art, as well as the faces of statesmen, scientists and outstanding people of the state and the Fatherland, should be natural, without any allegories and metaphors. IMHO! I have the honor! soldier
  • TriA
    TriA 2 October 2020 21: 51
    11
    According to the sculptor Grigory Pototsky, he "saw it this way"

    They have vulgarized all real art with their "vision" ... Do they use something like that ...
  • solzh
    solzh 2 October 2020 23: 49
    +1
    "New art" or mockery of the people for the people's money?

    What's new art? This is not art. Khrushch the maize once said about the avant-garde exhibition:
    What are these faces? Can't you draw? My grandson will draw better! … What it is? Are you men or (gay) damned, how can you write like that? Do you have a conscience?
    And added:
    Artists were taught with the people's money, they eat the people's bread and must work for the people, and for whom do they work if the people do not understand them?
  • T-44
    T-44 3 October 2020 04: 54
    0
    So a Jew rules art in Russia.
  • bzbo
    bzbo 3 October 2020 12: 15
    -1
    Rename, cut off the head and attach Navalny's head
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 3 October 2020 12: 40
    0
    A monument to Peter the Great in the city he founded, which is strongly discouraged for people with a vulnerable psyche ...
    We, my wife and daughter, in the evening, in the dark, saw him ........ a nightmarish sight.
  • tech3030
    tech3030 3 October 2020 12: 53
    0
    My avatar drew a boy in flippers!
  • odometer
    odometer 3 October 2020 20: 02
    0
    Anyone can offend a real artist ... bully
  • Khodanov
    Khodanov 3 October 2020 22: 38
    0
    Dear colleagues! Who still has doubts about the attitude of the bearers of Polish surnames to everything Russian? This "art" is another spit of Pototsky in the Russian classics, no matter how they defend his "author's artistic vision" ... The place of this masterpiece is in the studio, or better in the "creator's" office.
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 4 October 2020 06: 57
    0
    The abundance of idiots in full view of everyone in the capitals is clearly overflowing ... fool
  • Moore
    Moore 4 October 2020 07: 03
    0
    I didn't read the entire tape, but here's what I found in the open spaces:
    "...... The monument to the poet Sergei Yesenin, which appeared in the courtyard of the museum named after the creator, can be removed after November 1. This was said by the director of the cultural institution Svetlana Shetrakova.
    She clarified that the agreement with the author on placement is valid until November. It will not be extended if Muscovites are against it, Shetrakova explained.
    More details: https://www.m24.ru/news/gorod/02102020/135335?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop?utm_source=CopyBuf
    The official has competently distanced herself. Like we are open to any creativity, but if we don’t understand the high idea, then ...
    I see here just a desire to go with the trend - God forbid, Western colleagues will be accused of obscurantism and rejection of the new.
    The handshake at the Hermitage is from the same series, by the way ...
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 4 October 2020 11: 38
    0
    “Some of the domestic academicians of the corresponding profile, beating off the horror attacks that have been announced in the Yesenin museum, have already declared that“ one should not follow the opinion of an uneducated and unprofessional minority. ”“ As I understand it, these “academicians” and they won't say a word if the surgeon sews something to them in the wrong place or even cuts it off, and the electrician puts on a switch that shoots with current, in general, you never know what ... academics are not professionals in these matters ...