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"Dependence on other states is growing": Sweden named reasons preventing Russia from becoming a superpower

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Russia stands for a multipolar world and wants to become a superpower. What prevents this country from becoming a superpower told several Swedish experts in the publication Svenska Dagbladet.


Russia is trying to weaken the United States in order to become a superpower and extend its influence to nearby countries, Swedish experts say. Today Russia is a powerful military power with a large arsenal of nuclear weapons and a strong conventional army. Russian President Putin sets himself big goals in the global struggle for power, in his convictions Russia should be completely sovereign, participate in the adoption of important international decisions and disregard the models of action imposed on it.

Russia's aspirations are clear. Putin has been talking about this for almost 20 years, claiming that Russia has the right to superpower status and its own sphere of interests in the surrounding regions. It is against this background that the country's military participation in the Syrian conflict should be viewed. There Russia has achieved such success that it will be simply impossible to resolve the conflict without Russians at the negotiating table.

says Gudrun Persson, an expert on Russia at the Institute for Defense Studies.

But, on the way to the status of a superpower, Russia faces many "pitfalls", experts from Sweden say. If in a military sense Russia is already a superpower, then in many important areas, such as economics and technology, Russia lags behind. These areas also include research and progress. According to experts, if Russia continues to lag behind in these areas, it will complicate the path to superpower status.

The gap in prosperity between Russia and developed countries will only grow in the coming years. Russia is becoming more and more dependent on the development of other states. The problem is that she has to choose between Chinese and Western technologies, and she will never have her own.

- writes the edition.

Another problem for Putin and Russia is Belarus with its "rebellious people". Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators take to the streets of Minsk, demanding the resignation of Lukashenka. And if they achieve this, then there will be a threat to Putin.

The Swedish experts also paid attention to the poisoning of Navalny, which, in their opinion, became another "headache for Putin." After an attempt to poison the oppositionist, many countries criticized Russia, threatening to introduce more sanctions. In turn, sanctions are another obstacle to obtaining new technologies and further development of the country.

In addition, Putin's regularly falling approval rating could hinder Russia's path to superpower status. The Russian president is no longer popular with the people as he was several years ago. The point is that today there is simply no one to replace Putin in Russia, and his departure from the political scene could greatly weaken Russia's position in the world.

Summing up the results, experts say that despite the outcome of the elections in the United States, where the "anti-Russian infused" Biden may win, Moscow will continue to pursue its security goals, defending the position of a multipolar world and solving internal problems. Russia will try to become another pole in the world, while weakening the United States.
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  1. Invoce
    Invoce 1 October 2020 08: 50 New
    +5
    Not Russia's dependence is growing, but the dependence of officials on the United States
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 1 October 2020 09: 23 New
      -4
      then in many important areas, such as economics and technology, Russia lags behind.

      Sweden, probably, builds nuclear submarines, launches spaceships, ahead of the rest in MOX fuel and related technologies, ahead of everyone in hypersound and compact nuclear reactors, but no, we do not have technology, definitely a gas station country.
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 1 October 2020 09: 41 New
        +5
        Quote: neri73-r
        Sweden, probably, builds nuclear submarines, launches spaceships, ahead of the rest in MOX fuel and related technologies, ahead of everyone in hypersound and compact nuclear reactors, but no, we do not have technology, definitely a gas station country.

        Sad guys, yes. All in all, their per capita GDP is twice as high as ours, inflation is two times lower, and real GDP growth is. And, they also know how to shipbuilding and automotive. With cartoons about hypersound and compact reactors, they are, of course, sourish, you can't argue with that.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 1 October 2020 09: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: Kalmar
          Sad guys, yes. All in all, they have GDP per capita twice as high as ours, twice as low as inflation, and real GDP growth.

          It is a pity that part of our population would only eat! And to assess the real possibilities of the country in science and technology without a full belly and priest in the warmth, alas, no way!
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 1 October 2020 09: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: neri73-r
            It is a pity that part of our population would only eat! And to assess the real possibilities of the country in science and technology without a full belly and priest in the warmth, alas, no way!

            It's not about "eating", but about the fact that "real opportunities" should:
            a) be real;
            b) bring some kind of benefit, and not just be.
            On both counts, our case is somehow not very good. There is a lot of talk about the vaunted hypersounds and vigorous reactors, but something material is not visible. There is also no practical benefit from these "achievements", except that some people managed to master the budgets on these topics (I believe there are no "someone" on the lists of me and you).
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 1 October 2020 09: 52 New
              +1
              Actually, I started out for the scientific potential and technologies of the country and everything else, I did not touch! You didn’t discuss it right away, but moved on to grub (GDP, etc.) Although it has long been proven that this indicator is from the evil one, which does not reflect reality! Let's go back to the beginning. Do you think that we do not have advanced science and technology? And that we are not an order of magnitude ahead of the same Sweden in this?
              1. Kalmar
                Kalmar 1 October 2020 10: 00 New
                -2
                Quote: neri73-r
                Actually, I started out for the scientific potential and technologies of the country and everything else, I did not touch! You didn’t discuss it right away, but moved on to grub (GDP, etc.)

                GDP is not only a grub; it is an indicator of the economic efficiency of the state. Is there a lot of good from technology and science if they bring nothing?

                Quote: neri73-r
                Do you think that we do not have advanced science and technology? And that we are an order of magnitude ahead of the same Sweden in this?

                Why should I think so? There is still, although economic factors are obviously undermining the whole thing. I consider it unsportsmanlike to compete in this part with Sweden with its population of 10 million people.
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 25 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kalmar
                  I consider it unsportsmanlike to compete in this part with Sweden, with its population of 10 million people.

                  Then there is nothing for these "amateurs" from sports to open their mouths to our country, this is, in short, the meaning of my first post. hi
                  1. Kalmar
                    Kalmar 1 October 2020 10: 40 New
                    +6
                    Quote: neri73-r
                    Then there is nothing for these "amateurs" from sports to open their mouths to our country, this is, in short, the meaning of my first post.

                    The first step to solving a problem is to admit that there is a problem. If you dismiss the problem, they say, "first start the rocket at 10 swings, and then teach you how to live," then it will not go anywhere. This is so, thinking out loud.
                    1. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 46 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      The first step to solving a problem is to acknowledge that there is a problem.

                      I did not discuss this and did not call to discuss it, I was concerned with science and technology! There will be an article about GDP, we will discuss.
                      1. Kalmar
                        Kalmar 1 October 2020 10: 54 New
                        +4
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        I did not discuss this and did not urge to discuss it, I was concerned with science and technology!

                        Well, bring your idea to the end and tell us about the Russian scientific and technological achievements of recent years, which can be contemplated in the form of really existing serial products.
                      2. neri73-r
                        neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 56 New
                        -6
                        Quote: Kalmar
                        Well, bring the idea to the end and tell us about Russian scientific and technological achievements

                        I wrote what I wanted. Refute.
                      3. Kalmar
                        Kalmar 1 October 2020 11: 04 New
                        +6
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        I wrote what I wanted. Refute.

                        Refute what? General words about advanced science and technology? Well, okay: the Swedes serially make VNEU for their diesel-electric submarines, and we have a similar installation for the 677 project for 30 years and will not finish it. Will it go?
                      4. neri73-r
                        neri73-r 1 October 2020 11: 06 New
                        -7
                        Pretend not to understand what I mean? I understand, the last word should be yours! For God's sake.
                      5. Kalmar
                        Kalmar 1 October 2020 11: 22 New
                        +5
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Pretend not to understand what I mean?

                        If in truth, then yes, I lost my thought. You seemed to be talking about science and technology for a long time, now, it turns out, and not about them either. Now I don't even know what exactly was supposed to be refuted.
          2. amr
            amr 1 October 2020 10: 43 New
            -3
            ahhh, so we live cooler than Switzerland ??? and our science is advanced?
            and I didn't know, what didn't you say? and I thought we were like 30 years on the achievements of the scoop sitting and sitting! and even thought that our entire economy is for us hungry for bread, so as not to die of hunger, and all the bonuses to Switzerland and Cyprus !!!
            And yes, we are distributing loans to the IMF, we are trendsetters in cars, ships, heavy, precision industry, electronics especially !!! especially in oil production - damn it, we can't even make the equipment for pumping oil ourselves, in the taiga they cut wood, not a single of our escalators, even Japanese and Korean chainsaws !!!
  2. Roman13579
    Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 29 New
    +1
    real opportunities of the country in science and technology


    And what are these real capabilities??
    Science and technology shouldn't be aimed at improving living standards ?? Or are they building submarines just to make it ??
    The concept of "eating" includes not only bread and butter .. but also all other things that a person cannot do without in his life .. Hypersound is not included here .. But an imported refrigerator, TV or telephone is quite ..
    So in our country it's better to keep quiet about technology ..
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Roman13579
      The concept of "eating" includes not only bread and butter .. but also all other things that a person cannot do without in his life.

      I don't need to fill in, I lived a little in Europe, I can compare and the comparison is not in favor of the latter! All my acquaintances who left for the United States in the early 90s have returned, everyone, Karl! Although back in the early 2000s they were boasting when they came to us, they taxed right now!
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 1 October 2020 11: 36 New
        +1
        the comparison is not in favor of the latter! All my friends who left for the USA in the early 90s have returned.

        I have no more questions ..
        Everyone in the world lies, and only neri73-r knows the truth ..))
      2. Max otto
        Max otto 1 October 2020 13: 54 New
        +5
        Quote: neri73-r
        ...! All my acquaintances who left for the United States in the early 90s have returned, everyone, Karl! Although back in the early 2000s they were boasting when they came to us, they taxed right now!

        You're lying. Lies. It is easier to get a taxi there and safer than yours in Russia. Unless your friends are completely repulsed. None of my friends and relatives returned, and everything is fine with them.
        In the Scandinavian countries, by the way, real estate mortgages have a negative percentage. Do you think?
        Nothing is sacred about these Euroheans. But we have hypersound and braces, and Lukashenka, too, must be supported.
  3. uhu189
    uhu189 1 October 2020 18: 35 New
    +2
    What are the real possibilities? We have the same PR everywhere. Yes, technological products and weapons are being made, but they are in piece quantities. And there is not enough money to set up serial production, nor enterprises with specialists. They are simply almost gone. What is the heyday of production around us?
  • Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 1 October 2020 20: 04 New
    0
    as well as a full country of shoe polish, did you forget to voice this fact? koi do everything that the locals are not allowed from the word at all ... well, stuff like that ...
  • 210ox
    210ox 1 October 2020 09: 47 New
    +9
    Let's keep quiet about spaceships, and how can compact nuclear editors and hypersonic rockets help achieve the welfare of the same Swedes? Is the position of a superpower determined only by the submarine and nuclear reactors?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 October 2020 10: 22 New
      +3
      It is determined, first of all, by food security and energy - Russia, with both of them, does not depend on anyone.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 1 October 2020 10: 27 New
        +7
        What about process safety? There are positions that are critical for us. The same electronics, composite and much more.
      2. Kalmar
        Kalmar 1 October 2020 10: 52 New
        +8
        Quote: Vadim237
        It is determined, first of all, by food security and energy - Russia, with both of them, does not depend on anyone.

        The share of Russian-bred seeds in our agriculture is less than 63%. In particular, everything is not easy with everyone's favorite potatoes - 10%. Compound feed and fertilizers, as I heard, are also very actively imported. Well, technology, where can we go without it. The energy sector - oil and gas - is very closely tied to imported equipment. So it turns out that the order is complete, but there are nuances.
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 1 October 2020 11: 48 New
          -3
          Its full, especially after the start of the seed investment fund. Seed material is bought because it is profitable to buy and sell from the same aggressively dumping Chinese and Monsanta affiliates (although GMOs are prohibited).
          But we are experiencing difficulties with the sale of seed, - complains the director of the Kabardino-Balkarian agricultural firm "Otbor" Rasul Knyazev
          etc.
          High technologies - yes, they do not recover very quickly. But these are all systemic issues: fertility, education, culture ... nevertheless, it has been destroyed and intensification has not yet been seen. Western vacuum cleaner, again, everything that even shines a little, sucks everything into itself, at least hold it with both hands.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 11: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Kalmar
          The share of Russian-bred seeds in our agriculture is less than 63%

          The percentage of broiler hatching eggs is less than 70%. Against the background of these facts, the proud statements of the profile minister look wretched.
        3. Warrior-80
          Warrior-80 1 October 2020 11: 52 New
          +2
          Eurochem has not heard, it is a member of the 7 largest chemical companies in the world, produces both compound feed and fertilizers, and actively exports
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 20: 47 New
            0
            Quote: Warrior-80
            Eurochem did not hear

            They do not produce compound feed, Google will help.
            EuroChem Group AG is an offshore Swiss chemical company with main production assets located in Russia, Kazakhstan, Belgium and Lithuania. The largest producer of mineral fertilizers in Russia [3]. The headquarters is in Zug (Switzerland).
            Found something to be proud of. fool
        4. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 October 2020 18: 32 New
          0
          In the oil and gas industry, they are already doing everything from drill bits to platforms and special hydraulic fluids.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 11: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        with both of Russia, complete order is not dependent on anyone.

        What about milk, Vadik? The number of dairy cows in Belarus is 30% higher than in Russia.
        Our import of palm oil last year amounted to more than a million tons.
        What will we do if Indonesia joins the sanctions? wink
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 October 2020 18: 35 New
          -1
          And the production of milk is 32 million tons per year - what will I personally do in ten more dairy industries if the export of palm trees to Russia is completely cut off.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 20: 45 New
            0
            Again weird Vadik. The consumption of milk and dairy products in Russia has decreased, from the 90s to the 20s, by 40%. In Belarus, on the contrary, it has grown, and 2,5 times higher than in our country.
            Further, the import of palm oil in the Republic of Belarus last year amounted to 7 thousand tons, in the Russian Federation more than a million tons.
            Arkady Mamontov has a film about "milk" that we eat.
      4. uhu189
        uhu189 1 October 2020 18: 43 New
        +2
        You will be surprised when you look at whose production generators have recently been installed at CHP. Yes, even banal diesel generators ... Or low and medium voltage switchgear. Whoever has even a little money - everyone bets on the European ... This is energy. Agriculture is the same ...
      5. ximkim
        ximkim 1 October 2020 18: 45 New
        +1
        Something on the store shelves is read / considered not food safety.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 1 October 2020 10: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      Is the position of a superpower determined only by submarines and nuclear reactors?

      Of course not...
      But, as K. Prutkov said, "Behold at the root ..."
      Having fit into the world economic system in the early 90s, the Russian Federation is implementing those plans, and on the terms that were dictated to it. And, in part, these "conditions" were enshrined in the Constitution arr. 1993 year
      What we have today! State capitalism, with the participation of oligarchs (or whatever ...) in the economic structure, with influence on the domestic and foreign policy of the Russian Federation, both through the aforementioned oligarchs, and directly on the country's leadership. Or did all these "sanctions" appear after "Crimea"? Nope .. This is a strictly centralized policy of influence, including demonstrative measures of deterrence for the "wavering". As an example - "cooperation" in the creation of the Sukhoi Superjet. Or a banal refusal to supply components for the MS-21. And the other day the Japanese announced that, they say, they have full sovereignty over the Kuril Islands, in part of the "northern territories".
      And the most important thing...
      Which of the debaters was in Sweden? Who of you, who so zealously "drowns" for Swedish socialism, lived in this country of Scandinavian grace? Who can say from personal experience that the Swedes have both "the grass is higher and the smoke from the chimney is thicker?"
      Even among the Scandinavians, there is no consensus about who has a better life - the Swedes, the Norwegians, or the Danes and Icelanders.
      Those who wish can go - and live there, look around, and speak ...
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 25 New
    -2
    Sweden is probably building nuclear submarines, launching spaceships, ahead of the rest in MOX fuel and related technologies, ahead of everyone in hypersonic


    Well, yes .. for ordinary people this, of course, is difficult to live ..
    Whether it is we .. we smear submarines on hypersound .. and warm up in a Chinese microwave ..
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Roman13579
      Well, yes .. it’s just people from this, of course, it’s difficult to live ..

      Without this, our people will not live at all, from the word at all! People will live here speaking another language, most likely English! Hungry you are ours! fellow
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 32 New
        -1
        Without this, our people will not live at all, from the word at all!

        But the Swedes didn't know .. they lived until they heard you ..))
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 37 New
          -3
          Quote: Roman13579
          Without this, our people will not live at all, from the word at all!

          But the Swedes didn't know .. they lived until they heard you ..))

          Oh, I forgot, the territory of Sweden is 1/6 of the land with huge reserves of fossils, fresh water, forests, biological resources, etc ... You remind them. wassat
          1. Roman13579
            Roman13579 1 October 2020 11: 00 New
            +1
            I forgot, the territory of Sweden is 1/6 of the land with huge reserves of fossils, fresh water, forests, biological resources, etc.


            You have not forgotten, but confused ..
            Why all these 1/6, and gigantic .. if they are not smart ??
            As if, taking into account all of the above, we should live better than the Swedes .. since we have all this, but they have nothing ..
            Some kind of crooked puzzle turns out ..))
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 1 October 2020 11: 04 New
              -4
              Quote: Roman13579
              we should live better than the Swedes .. since we have all this, but they have nothing ..

              Are you sure they don't live better? I saw that I would not like to live better "like this". One thing, when you look at the country from the window of a tour bus, the other is to really live there! As an anecdote about a nuance (c)
              1. Roman13579
                Roman13579 1 October 2020 11: 42 New
                0
                The level and conditions of life are determined by many parameters.
                And this data is not compiled from a tour bus ..
                I understand that our box can tell the population a lot of interesting things .. but even there they haven’t learned to talk about the fact that Russia, which is on the list of living standards closer to the end of a hundred, has suddenly become better than anywhere else in Europe ..
                I can well imagine that it is not so easy for a German pensioner to put aside a few hundred bucks from his pension for a vacation trip to Turkey ..
                Another thing is that it is impossible for our pensioner to do this from the word at all !! And this is not an anecdote ..
          2. Max otto
            Max otto 1 October 2020 14: 06 New
            0
            Quote: neri73-r
            .
            Oh, I forgot, the territory of Sweden is 1/6 of the land with huge reserves of fossils, fresh water, forests, biological resources, etc ... You remind them. wassat

            Hmm, I knew it, a rural agitator.
            This USSR was 1/6 of the land. Russia is 1 / 8th. Russia has resources, Swedes live better. interesting logic you have.
      2. Kalmar
        Kalmar 1 October 2020 10: 38 New
        0
        Quote: neri73-r
        Without this, our people will not live at all, from the word at all!

        Psychology of a besieged fortress, straight from the classics) No pants, but with a nuclear missile in an embrace))

        Quote: neri73-r
        People will live here speaking another language, most likely English!

        Rather, in Chinese, only your hypersonic flying machines will not save you from this: completely different approaches are used there.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 1 October 2020 10: 40 New
          -3
          Quote: Kalmar
          only from this your hypersonic flying machines will not save

          Citizenship is immediately visible.
  • Bomb
    Bomb 1 October 2020 13: 22 New
    +6
    The construction site outside the window, I don't see a single unit of Russian-made equipment, but no, I lied ..... Ivanovets crane came, though he is my age. In the field, tractors and combines come in handy from Korea and Europe. But sometimes Belarus slips through.
  • iouris
    iouris 1 October 2020 11: 32 New
    0
    Officials are "Russia".
  • Svarog
    Svarog 1 October 2020 08: 53 New
    +4
    The Swede writes correctly.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 09: 10 New
      +6
      Not in everything, Volodya.
      Among the pitfalls mentioned on the road to a superpower, the Swede mentions Putin's falling rating. Here I strongly disagree - Putin only talks about the superpower of Russia, but practically does nothing for this. We are a superpower only in terms of the export of resources, and nothing more.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 October 2020 09: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Not in everything, Volodya.

        I agree, I did not have time to reveal my thought .. urgent matters appeared)) Superpower and does not smell. The only thing that people still listen to us about is the army and nuclear weapons.
    2. depressant
      depressant 1 October 2020 09: 13 New
      +2
      Yes, it surprised me. We thought it was only visible to us, but from the outside, as always it turned out better.
      Well, look. Putin was offended by the existing world order. He said something like this: it is rudeness to take and stop supplying composite materials for our future MC-21 aircraft. They agreed. And he added: this, of course, is nothing, we will do it ourselves, only a little later.
      The strangest thing is that a year ago there was a program about how wonderful composites are made here. The shots are in front of my eyes! Why was it ordered in the West? To show them the link, to flatter, they say, we are yours, to skate, to offshore - what? All the technology was given to either the West or China! How many people on VO shouted about it! It turns out they don't hear us. Well, maybe at least the foreigners will be heard. He was offended ...
      1. pereselenec
        pereselenec 1 October 2020 09: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        The strangest thing is that a year ago there was a program about how wonderful composites are made here. The frames are before your eyes!


        1. Roman13579
          Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 34 New
          0
          I heard it - it still works ..
      2. venik
        venik 1 October 2020 09: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: depressant
        a year ago there was a program about how wonderful composites are made here. The shots stand before our eyes! Why did they order in the West? To show them the link, to flatter, they say, we are yours, to skate, to offshore - what?

        =======
        I am afraid that it is in this question that you, Lyudmila, are deeply mistaken, due to your complete ignorance of the topic.
        The fact is that the composite is not the same! They, as well as plastics and plastics - there is simply an immeasurable amount! I think there are no longer hundreds of species, but more! We have technologies for the production of a wide variety of composite materials and of very high quality .... But Alas! Long away not all species! By the way - NOT ONE a country in the world CANNOT boast that it produces the WHOLE range of composite materials! This is the first thing.
        Secondly: one thing is a composite as a material, and another is the technology of manufacturing LARGE-SIZED parts from these composites! We manufacture composite wing elements for fighters (and these are small airplanes), we didn’t have the experience and technology for the production of huge elements for passenger airliners!
        Even the most technologically advanced countries (for example, France) do not hesitate to purchase such products abroad - it is much FASTER and CHEAPER than organizing such production at home! We had to go for it FORCEDLY! hi
        1. vic02
          vic02 1 October 2020 10: 25 New
          +3
          I am afraid that it is in this question that you, Lyudmila, are deeply mistaken, due to complete ignorance of the topic
          As an expert on the topic, please tell us: 1) in the production of what composite materials (resins, fibers, or something else) is Russia a world leader and occupies a large part of the world market? 2) why, if we have such good components and materials, they were ordered in Japan and the United States, and does it not smell like outright criminality here?
          1. venik
            venik 1 October 2020 11: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: vic02
            As an expert on the topic, please tell us: 1) in the production of what composite materials (resins, fibers, or something else) is Russia a world leader and occupies a large part of the world market?

            ========
            Victor, first figure out WHAT is a composite material! Them thousands types: from plywood to microchip substrates and other semiconductor devices! A composite is a sandwich that can consist of anything: wood, polymers, ceramics, metals, resins, fibers and even semiconductors! And they apply- anywhere!
            The exact volume of the market - NOBODY knows! Met appraisals - approx. 130 billion dollars, but many of them dispute: who believes that it is several times less, who - many times more ...
            ---------
            Quote: vic02
            2) why, if we have such good components and materials, they were ordered in Japan and the United States, and does it not smell like outright criminality here?

            ========
            Have you read my comment carefully? Everything is written there. Maybe, of course, you are tongue-tied and not too intelligibly explained ... But - as I can! hi
        2. Xenofont
          Xenofont 1 October 2020 10: 46 New
          +6
          For the MC-21, composite wing elements are made according to, as they say, a unique technology of cold vacuum pressing. There are no necessary prepregs for pulling the thread, and when they appear, it now depends on Rosatom. There is no hope for the "chubak", there must be billions of budget funds.
          1. depressant
            depressant 1 October 2020 11: 28 New
            +2
            So what prevented you from giving money for R&D? After all, when the design development for the aircraft began, it was necessary to keep it in mind. Yes, "they" make planes all over the world, that's right, they take titanium parts from us. But you had to understand that aviation is a strategy, that they don't like us, that they will let us down at the right time - at the right moment! It was necessary to play it safe! But it all came down to showing that we are ours for them. More cynicism is needed in such matters. In the USSR, they made all aviation themselves, on their own developments.
            1. Xenofont
              Xenofont 1 October 2020 11: 47 New
              +4
              Let me remind you about Rossnano and its effectiveness. Where billions go if not for the "nano-bullshit" of Chubais. And what is the most "pleasant" - no demand.
              1. depressant
                depressant 1 October 2020 12: 15 New
                +3
                Ooooh! Chubais ...
                Everyone knows only vouchers. What did this guy do with our solar panels? While he was busy with the construction of three of our factories, while he was suspiciously delaying their delivery, the Chinese seized the initiative, turning these factories into nothing. And what is he doing now with our world's best graphene nanotubes of the Novosibirsk company OCSiAl, created with our own money by our own great scientists? He's trying to sell it to the Dutch! And will sell, if not stopped. And what did he do with our energy? For a penny, he sold a serious part to foreigners - the English (!) Branch of the Italian Enel. Aliens who are capable of turning off the current supply to the strategic military unit at the right moment for them, as, by the way, it already happened. Chubais, in my opinion, is a state criminal for whom, at best, a prison cabinet cries. Kvachkov missed ...
                1. Xenofont
                  Xenofont 1 October 2020 12: 22 New
                  +3
                  Who will stop him if he is patronized by himself? Yes, clouds of near-imperious figures feed on the activities of this miracle office.
    3. lucul
      lucul 1 October 2020 09: 20 New
      +3
      Swede writes correctly

      I read it again - I didn't see anything correct ...
    4. saveall
      saveall 1 October 2020 09: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Svarog
      The Swede writes correctly.

      What is the right thing here that he writes? Once, in their snobbery and "greatness", they thought about China. And where is their vaunted technology now? What super technologies are there in the West that cannot be replicated?
      The West is withering more and more, and this can be seen even from such articles filled with such "cardboard and paper" greatness divorced from reality, that I would like to wish the author to continue to be in his rosy dreams ... And there will be no growing gap in prosperity from Russia, rather will be the opposite. In what technologies the West has really succeeded in the technology of brainwashing its inhabitants and alien "revolutionaries" who are ready to destroy their countries for the myth of the sweet carrot. And even having lost their own sovereignty and living in huts, they will still think that they live better than in this "Rashka" ... Well, there is no other setting for them ... What to do. In short, read Orwell, everything has long been described there.
      "And do not read the SWEDISH newspapers until lunchtime ..." ©
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 October 2020 09: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: saveall
        What super technologies are there in the West that cannot be replicated?

        So why not reproduce ..? Where are our electronics, pharmacology, mechanical engineering? Are you aware that we have everything imported .. there is no smartphone of our own ..
        What technologies the West has really succeeded in is in the technology of brainwashing its inhabitants

        Ours are not lagging behind here either ..
        Look at the indicators .. demographics, living standards .. everything is in a deep .. hole, but there are still people who welcome it .. you for example.
        1. saveall
          saveall 1 October 2020 10: 15 New
          -2
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: saveall
          What super technologies are there in the West that cannot be replicated?

          So why not reproduce ..? Where are our electronics, pharmacology, mechanical engineering? Are you aware that we have everything imported .. there is no smartphone of our own ..
          What technologies the West has really succeeded in is in the technology of brainwashing its inhabitants

          Ours are not lagging behind here either ..
          Look at the indicators .. demographics, living standards .. everything is in a deep .. hole, but there are still people who welcome it .. you for example.

          Well, continue to trend and whine at fate further and then the standard of living and demography will immediately jump up. Our propaganda is just childish babble in comparison with the destructive western one, which creeps out of all the cracks ... And besides, any state propaganda works the same way. Is not it so? Nonsense about freedom of speech not to offer ...
          On the Internet, during some periods of exacerbation of schizophrenia, it is apparently impossible to find the most abstract group on the most abstract topic, where bots do not crawl out their nonsense in the form of slogans about a bad life in Rashka, or an advertisement from some MBH, etc. ... mom. Is this not propaganda? Or what to call it?
          Well, now we will bring down Putin and electronics, pharmacology, and mechanical engineering will immediately appear ... Yeah ... What was destroyed and plundered in 10 years needs to be created for 30 years in the conditions in which we found ourselves. Are you waiting today or what?
          1. vic02
            vic02 1 October 2020 12: 03 New
            +2
            What has been destroyed and plundered in 10 years needs to be created for 30 years in the conditions in which we found ourselves.
            Why throw in general words? Let's look specifically at such an industry as aircraft manufacturing and compare the production of civil aircraft in our country in the 80s, 90s and 2010s, we don't consider small aircraft, the source is russianplanes. In the 80s - 756, 90s - 271, 10th - 218. Even though nothing was created in the 90s, by the way, it was still created - Tu-334, for example, but in zero, except for a set of imported spare parts - SSJ -100 is also nothing. So in 100 years you will be looking for an excuse in those 10 years.
            1. saveall
              saveall 1 October 2020 12: 37 New
              -3
              - Long live the "saints" of the 90s, boo-boo-boo ... No pharmacology, boo-boo-boo ... No aircraft construction, boo-boo-boo ... No machine-tool industry, boo-boo-boo .. There is no electronics, boo-boo-boo ... There Ukraine and Libya have changed everything and healed, boo-boo-boo ... Now we can no longer catch up with them in terms of demography and living standards, boo-boo-boo ... We for the beautiful Russia of the future, boo-boo-boo ...
              -What are you going to do?
              -Boo Boo Boo...
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 October 2020 10: 56 New
          -2
          Quote: Svarog
          Look at the indicators .. demographics, living standards .. everything is in a deep .. hole, but there are still people who welcome it .. you for example.

          That is, if a person refuses to sprinkle ashes on his head and wring his hands in anguish, does it mean that he welcomes all the negative that is happening?
          Jesuit logic of an inveterate demagogue.
      2. Rubi0
        Rubi0 1 October 2020 09: 53 New
        -1
        I support an interesting passage that the gap in welfare is only increasing, for sure 20 years ago welfare was at the highest level, not like now under Putin. Give the Russian Federation at least 50 years of a quiet life, like the same China, but no ... As soon as they stopped looking into their mouths, they broke up cooperation in all industries and followed sanctions
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 October 2020 09: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: Rubi0
          Give RF at least 50 years

          So they gave it .. Stolypin asked for 20 years, not 50 .. Putin, as he repeated his words .. Now Putin has been in power for 20 years, 14 of them with unprecedented oil prices .. and everything is relatively calm, at least with the times of Stalin definitely not to compare .. And what have we succeeded in?
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 1 October 2020 11: 54 New
            -3
            would you like to go back 20 years ago, not 50 as I understand you dream, but 20?
            1. vic02
              vic02 1 October 2020 14: 12 New
              0
              you would like to go back 20 years
              Good question. Yes, I and many others would gladly go back 20 years to prevent Yeltsin's successor from coming to power and the continuation of Yeltsin's policy for 20 years. Moreover, there was an excellent choice - Primakov.
              1. saveall
                saveall 1 October 2020 15: 29 New
                -1
                Quote: vic02
                you would like to go back 20 years
                Good question. Yes, I and many others would gladly go back 20 years to prevent Yeltsin's successor from coming to power and the continuation of Yeltsin's policy for 20 years. Moreover, there was an excellent choice - Primakov.

                Now many say so, but then many were intoxicated by the intoxication of "changes" and the spirit of a happy future. However, nothing has changed ... And now the all-propals are intoxicated by the same ... And as they destroy everything, so in twenty years they will sit and write about how they would return 20 years ago and change everything. Well, if, of course, there will be someone to sit and write ... So you don't need to indulge yourself with such a thought, you would not change anything ... Times do not choose to live and die in them. Do your job to which you are called well, without burying "your talent in the ground", educate your children so that they become people, and not geeks without clan and tribe, and then you look and life will improve.
                1. vic02
                  vic02 1 October 2020 15: 51 New
                  -1
                  Alexander, this is empty reasoning. In my 90s, and now everything is in order both with my head and with my life. Better give some counterargument about the achievements of Putin's time, otherwise your program crashed (see above)
                  -Boo Boo Boo...
                  1. saveall
                    saveall 1 October 2020 15: 57 New
                    0
                    laughing So it was I who paraded all the fighters, and not a failure in the program ... lol
                    Okay, what's the point in arguing. All the same, everyone will remain unconvinced. And there it will be seen who is right and who is wrong ... It was still not enough to throw poop at each other for such trifles.
        2. Roman13579
          Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 37 New
          -3
          Give RF at least 50 years of quiet life,

          That is, ideally - 150 years should be given ??
          And Putin for the whole term ..
          Hospadya .. with such people this country cannot be corrected by anything .. Even in 500 years ..
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 1 October 2020 11: 56 New
            -4
            Well, ideally, yes, like in the states there are 200 years without revolution, wars and system change, and so you just get that every 20 years a new generation of Russian migrants in the same states, who in their right mind will stay here knowing that the next will be their children because some of those around you will not like the Romanovs, Stalins, Gorbachevs, Putin ... "insert your favorite politician here yourself"
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 1 October 2020 08: 55 New
    0
    Russia's aspirations are clear. Putin has been talking about this for almost 20 years, stating that Russia has the right to superpower status and its own sphere of interests in the surrounding regions.

    To speak is not to do ... Words, words, words ... So far only Crimea (Abkhazia and South Ossetia are Yeltsin's legacy) And in the West it is not clear why Putin is considered eternal?
  • Far B
    Far B 1 October 2020 08: 56 New
    +4
    Putin has been talking about this for almost 20 years, claiming that Russia has the right to superpower status and its own sphere of interests in the surrounding regions.
    Oh yeah. Putin for 20 years does nothing but what he says. Declares, demands to understand, asks to treat with understanding. And, yes - he also issues May decrees. And somewhere, Putin's plan is stuck.
    on the way to the status of a superpower Russia faces many "pitfalls"
    Swedish experts are lying. Only one pitfall. But what kind - oligarchic capitalism with Yeltsin-Putin specifics. Until this "pitfall" is removed, we will not see any real status of a superpower.
    on Russia's path to superpower status may be hindered by Putin's regularly falling rating
    And this is how ??? Why such a conclusion? Boris-55 emigrated to Sweden and became an expert there? Where is the world of katitso ...
    1. Andrew 40
      Andrew 40 1 October 2020 09: 08 New
      0
      Swedish experts are lying. Only one pitfall. But what kind - oligarchic capitalism with Yeltsin-Putin specifics. Until this "pitfall" is removed, we will not see any real status of a superpower. They took it straight off the tongue.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 1 October 2020 09: 16 New
      +3
      I will add to your comment an important and largely determining factor:

      Quote: Dalny V
      Only one pitfall. But what - venal comprador-oligarchic capitalism with Yeltsin-Putin specifics. Until this "pitfall" is removed, we will not see any real status of a superpower.
      1. depressant
        depressant 1 October 2020 09: 32 New
        +4
        A great power is not only a mighty army, but also great technology. But as soon as a great technology arises in our country - and they arise in our country! - by some miracle, it immediately turns out to be either Western or Chinese, and we buy products from them. Is it profitable for officials? As for Putin, they don't look for the worst from the bad, so we tolerate it. For you cast a glance at the political elite and see now a desert, now a swamp.
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 1 October 2020 09: 45 New
          -1
          Whom do you want to see as the new king?
          1. depressant
            depressant 1 October 2020 11: 05 New
            -1
            There is one decent statesman, with a strong character, smart, but I will not name it - the liberals, at the suggestion of the oligarchs, will rush with a howl and trample their reputation out of the blue. You yourself can see what is being done. As soon as Navalny regained consciousness and said something like: "I think Putin is behind my poisoning," it immediately turned out to be accepted. They nodded their heads with an important air: "Yes, yes, we said ..." And since the liberal means of mass stupefaction are rampant, not only the reputation - the person will be crushed.
            1. g1washntwn
              g1washntwn 1 October 2020 11: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              As soon as Navalny woke up, he said something like: "I think Putin is behind my poisoning."

              Don't compose. Navalny was passed out, he could not say this. After he woke up, the Western media immediately became depressed. He replied that he intends to return to the Russian Federation.
              1. depressant
                depressant 1 October 2020 12: 19 New
                +1
                Right now, on Yandex: "Navalny believes Putin is behind his poisoning."
                1. g1washntwn
                  g1washntwn 1 October 2020 12: 32 New
                  +1
                  According to the causal relationship NOW he is simply repeating the thrown fake that was launched BEFORE he regained consciousness. The accusation was thrown when this "downed Boeing" was still flying into German soil. Now he is not allowed to go to Russia only to drip in and psychotropic substances have disappeared from him.
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 2 October 2020 07: 59 New
              +3
              Quote: depressant
              There is one decent statesman, with a strong character, intelligent

              The trouble is when the whole immense Russia - ONE ORDINARY STATE.

              Quote: depressant
              I will not name it - the liberals, at the suggestion of the oligarchs, will rush with a howl and trample their reputation out of the blue.


              So you will keep him in the "incubator"? And what will eventually grow out of it, broiler?
              1. depressant
                depressant 2 October 2020 08: 11 New
                +1
                Colleague, I am not the kind of person who is capable of raising politicians. I'm not even able to raise a broiler)))
                The politician must grow himself. I can only track how he does it))
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 2 October 2020 08: 17 New
                  +4
                  Quote: depressant
                  I am not able to raise even a broiler))) A politician must raise himself. I can only track how he does it

                  But nevertheless, you protect him as a child, "from the evil eye" wassat ... Make sure that the pin does not accidentally open ...
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 2 October 2020 08: 20 New
                    -1
                    Too much rush on him was initially organized by liberalism, but, apparently, he himself gave the go-ahead to shut up. Now I am afraid of jealousy myself)))
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 2 October 2020 08: 25 New
                      +3
                      Quote: depressant
                      Too much rush on him was initially organized by liberalism

                      Interestingly what ... As a result, so protecting the "X-man", you probably expect to get "at the exit" a leader, hardened in political battles, a fighter, and not a smear belay ? ? ?

                      I already wrote - in the INCUBATOR, individuals who are incapable of living in natural nature grow up.
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 2 October 2020 09: 22 New
                        +1
                        So he will not fight with me, but with the bureaucracy. And I, so as not to relax, will criticize him, so that little will not seem to him, but objectively. This will be the hardening. And since I criticize many, for various reasons, he will be one of many - he will not stand out ahead of time. And this is not Chubais))
                        I see you are not happy with me, colleague. Choose your applicant, make it public. )))
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 2 October 2020 09: 30 New
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        So it's not with me that he is fighting will, but with bureaucracy


                        Oh, only WILL BE ... And now, forgive me, it still comes out TITLE sucks?


                        Quote: depressant
                        I see you are not happy with me, colleague. Choose your applicant, make it public. )))


                        Where did you get this? "Dissatisfaction", and then at a stretch you call my skepticism about such artificially grown in test tubes and a sterile environment "politicians"?

                        Why shouldn't he go through exile, hard labor, persecution and deprivation like the Leninist revolutionaries once did? And in fairness, not only Leninists were ideological, convinced passionaries ...
                      3. depressant
                        depressant 2 October 2020 09: 45 New
                        +1
                        The past exile and hard labor will not be admitted to the elections. This is the first thing. And secondly, do you not admit that you can fight for the interests of the country without going through exile and hard labor? Are you a real politician? It seems to me that this is more difficult than exile and hard labor. Overcome the aggressive rush of bureaucracy, defending the interests of the state and the people, and emerge victorious from it. The suffering of the body in hard labor is one thing. The suffering of the spirit, the expectation of a dastardly blow from around the corner, the collapse of plans on which he had pinned his hopes, is harder to bear.
                        However, for whom how.
                        Some leaders deliberately provoke the authorities so that, "suffering in hard labor," they look like martyrs in the eyes of the average man. Others - unconsciously, out of naivety, means definitely not politicians.
                      4. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 2 October 2020 09: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        Overcome the aggressive rush of bureaucracy, defending the interests of the state and the people, and emerge victorious from it.

                        Well so and so ... laughing



                        You are acting in the worst traditions of Americans who:

                        - "Everyone knows, but for reasons of secrecy they don't say anything"
                      5. depressant
                        depressant 2 October 2020 10: 01 New
                        +1
                        Look for the name yourself, Brother!))
                        You will find and be silent. Otherwise, blind fate will see clearly.
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 1 October 2020 10: 43 New
    +3
    For you cast a glance at the political elite and see now a desert, now a swamp.

    This is precisely the undisputed merit of Putin ..))
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 11: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: depressant
    But as soon as a great technology arises in our country - and they arise in our country! - by some miracle, it immediately turns out to be either Western or Chinese

    Spending on basic science in the United States and China is 3-4% of GDP. We have less than 1%. The CPRF put forward a proposal to raise them to at least 1%, but the president's party rejected this proposal.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 1 October 2020 09: 24 New
    +7
    Quote: Dalny V
    Oh yeah. Putin for 20 years does nothing but what he says. Declares, demands to understand, asks to treat with understanding.

    In addition to everything else, he is "worried" and "surprised" wassat

  • AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 1 October 2020 08: 57 New
    +6
    ... Moscow will continue to pursue its security goals, upholding the position of a multipolar world and solving internal problems.

    Several Swedish experts have already begun to speak quite sensibly.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 1 October 2020 08: 58 New
    +9
    "Russia stands for a multipolar world and wants to become a superpower."
    Complexes of political dwarfs.
    Russia wants stable development and a world without war.
  • Old jew
    Old jew 1 October 2020 08: 58 New
    10
    With regard to technology and economic development - Russia must create its own. This will force the development of education and science. This will force the state to support the people - the state for the people, and not vice versa.
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 1 October 2020 09: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Old Jew
      This will force the development of education and science.

      Uh ... not the other way around? It is necessary first to revive Science from the ashes, and with a bias towards applied directions. Then proactive people should be given the opportunity to implement the results of scientific research - only in such a way that it would benefit the Russian people, in the first place. Those. education and science are where to start if the authorities want a "state for the people".
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 1 October 2020 10: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: Polymer
        and not vice versa?

        And on the contrary, it does not work.
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 1 October 2020 10: 13 New
          0
          How many revolutions do you need to work? wink
          In fact, we are talking about the same thing, and in both cases there is no initial impulse that would set the system in motion in the required direction. I didn’t explain why “the authorities would suddenly want”, and my colleague
          Quote: Old Jew
          Russia must create its own.

          also does not explain where to start.
          It turns out that it does not work this way or that way.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 1 October 2020 13: 31 New
            -3
            Quote: Polymer
            where to begin.

            With the adoption of a principled decision that one should do one's own thing, and not be carried on by the tales of supporters of the free market, that "if only there was money, we will buy what is needed."
            And then, as in the saying, "patience and work will grind everything."
            1. Polymer
              Polymer 1 October 2020 13: 35 New
              0
              Totally agree!
              Here we are with you and made this historic decision!
              Something has changed?
              1. Ded_Mazay
                Ded_Mazay 1 October 2020 13: 44 New
                -3
                Quote: Polymer
                Here we are with you and made this historic decision! Something has changed?

                Don't write nonsense. Obviously, it does not depend on you and me, so why this casuistry?
                1. Polymer
                  Polymer 1 October 2020 13: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Ded_Mazay
                  Do not write nonsense.

                  Mutually. hi
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 October 2020 08: 59 New
    +7
    Porridge, from completely reasonable conclusions to complete delirium ...
    In general, it is quite expected, "normal", foreign garbage.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 1 October 2020 09: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Porridge, from perfectly reasonable conclusions to complete delirium

      Perfectly to the point. Like schizophrenics ... an absolutely, crystal-logical construction from an absolutely wrong message ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 October 2020 10: 40 New
        0
        Foreign experts / scribes do not know us, do not understand, do not WANT TO KNOW / UNDERSTAND!
        They prefer to live, digging in their heap .... delusional ideas and thoughts.
        And when something quite logical happens, they cannot understand how it is, how can it be?
        Yes figs on them, we have our own life, we don’t need theirs!
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 1 October 2020 09: 00 New
    12
    Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators take to the streets of Minsk, demanding the resignation of Lukashenka. And if they achieve this, then there will be a threat to Putin.

    probably, first of all, there will be a threat for "hundreds of thousands" themselves. Because it is easy to destroy the integration of the two countries (just put a saucepan on your head and yell "Muscovites for knives!"), But then what to do with it? Or to earn money in Europe following the example of the neighbors, because now there is no work left in the "free from tyranny"?
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 1 October 2020 09: 13 New
      +4
      You are absolutely right, only these "hundreds of thousands" do not think about it from the word at all.
    2. Kalmar
      Kalmar 1 October 2020 09: 21 New
      -4
      Quote: Ka-52
      probably, first of all, there will be a threat for "hundreds of thousands" themselves. Because it is easy to destroy the integration of the two countries (it is enough to put a saucepan on your head and yell "Muscovites for knives!"), But then what to do with it?

      It seems that so far these hundreds of thousands are specifically against Lukashenka; the protests have no anti-Russian implication. So, even if Sanya is kicked out, nothing prevents Belarus and Russia from maintaining partnership relations. There will even be a chance to improve them: Lukashenka himself has shown himself to be an extremely controversial ally.

      It's another matter that such subtle political games are clearly not the strong point of our Foreign Ministry. They will diligently drown for Old Man (professional solidarity?), Turning the population of the Republic of Belarus against Russia and pushing it into the affectionate embrace of Western experts on democracy.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 1 October 2020 09: 45 New
        +6
        It seems that so far these hundreds of thousands are specifically against Lukashenka; the protests have no anti-Russian implication.

        rallies in Kiev also began innocently - they say we want panties in the EU. Well, Yanukovych is also a thief. We see how it ended. It's just that when the puppeteers take the revolution seriously, Russia will quickly turn out to be a bloody aggressor and oppressor there. Because the main goal of all this fuss for the puppeteers is not Lukashenka himself (let’s sit and grow his own potatoes in a vegetable garden called Belarus), but to tear off another political and economic ally of Russia. This is a macro goal. And badherd little people on the occasion of "stayed up too long, you are a kid" is just a way, a tool.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 1 October 2020 09: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: Ka-52
          It's just that when the puppeteers take the revolution seriously, Russia will quickly turn out to be a bloody aggressor and oppressor there.

          And what prevents our puppeteers from seizing the initiative? As the saying goes, "if booze cannot be prevented, it must be led." We have a whole Ministry of Foreign Affairs for this case: let them bother, promote the candidate we need, help Lukashenka leave more or less smoothly, so that from the outside everything looks democratic. It's not easy, but there is no other way.
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 1 October 2020 10: 04 New
            +2
            And what prevents our puppeteers from seizing the initiative?

            I think ours have long forgotten how to do it. Or there is still a wave that was raised in the 90s.
            We have a whole Ministry of Foreign Affairs for this case: let him bother, promote the candidate we need, help Lukashenka leave more or less evenly, so that everything looks democratic from the outside.

            your words and some people in the ears. But look at the paragraph above request sad
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 1 October 2020 09: 00 New
    -11 qualifying.
    The main thing is that the Swedish exPerd forgot to add, namely Russia on June 27, 1709 near Poltava, put an end to all Sweden's aspirations to become a Superpower! Probably offended and squeezed an article yes
    Where is this Sweden now, what is its political weight, military potential? Yes, no!
    Better let Russian submarines search and get scared!
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 1 October 2020 09: 04 New
    +5
    prevents this country from becoming a superpower very weak economy, half of the budget sale of natural resources
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 1 October 2020 09: 35 New
      +6
      Saudi Arabia has a 75% budget dependence on oil exports alone. Plus gas. Plus "other natural resources" ... High technologies are also bought, his cat cried. Where are the parallels?
      Maybe the whole point is not in them, but in the Russian "perpendicularity" to the imposed models of behavior?
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 1 October 2020 10: 35 New
        +2
        apparently in your Saudi Arabia superpower?
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 1 October 2020 09: 05 New
    +6
    The gap in prosperity between Russia and developed countries will only grow in the coming years.

    The western pump, due to which this gap in wealth is provided, turned on at increased speed and rested on the bottom. World Resources Section not by military means almost finished. The stage of violent "democratization" is already at the stages of outright interventions, just over a minute is left before the breakdown with the use of weapons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock
    It's a matter of survival, not domination.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 October 2020 09: 06 New
    -6
    Swedish guys. Technologies. Who was the first to create a vaccine against caronovirus? We have a backlog of orders for it of 1 billion rubles. Even at 300 rubles per dose, this is already crazy money. Advanced America will receive the vaccine only in April, if Trump wins. We are lagging behind only in microelectronics. and then on production. hi
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 09: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      We are lagging behind only in microelectronics and then in production.

      Read the tags on your clothes, turn the mug over, it says on the bottom where it was made. wink
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 October 2020 09: 23 New
        +5
        I have everything Russian, from clothes at work to plates with mugs and forks with spoons. I don’t want to die from all kinds of Chinese nastiness. Your remark also applies to Europe and the United States. Chinese gadgets. wassat
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 October 2020 09: 42 New
        +2
        All the same, the Russian vaccine got you, but today there is more than one! We are lagging behind, but somewhere we are lagging behind! Russians harness for a long time, but then they go quickly. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 10: 16 New
          -7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          How did the vaccine get you?

          Which was allowed for mass use without waiting for the end of the third stage of testing?
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 1 October 2020 10: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Which was allowed for mass use without waiting for the end of the third stage of testing?

            You are lying, my friend. You fake openly.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 10: 35 New
              -4
              Quote: g1washntwn
              You are lying, my friend.

              In what? belay There is a video on the internet where Ginzburg says that the third stage of testing will be completed next spring. And the fact that vaccination has already been allowed for mass vaccination is repeated by all the media. request
              1. g1washntwn
                g1washntwn 1 October 2020 11: 00 New
                +3
                The vaccine is registered. That is, all the actions necessary for the registration of the vaccine have been completed, these are stages I-III. The third stage in the media (arithmetically IV) means post-registration tests. You are referring to stage III (as well as not trying to grasp the essence of the media). "Open" testing does not equal a ban on use.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 11: 03 New
                  -5
                  Are you seriously talking about all the "passed" trials of a vaccine less than a year ago? belay
            2. _Ugene_
              _Ugene_ 1 October 2020 10: 40 New
              -1
              You are lying, my friend. You fake openly.
              what exactly is he misinterpreting? if you do not know why are you answering? in my opinion even the laziest already knows about it
              The first batch of the vaccine has already entered civilian circulation, and such vaccination will begin in the near future. It will run in parallel with Phase III research, which started on September 9th. A total of 40 thousand volunteers will take part in it. Doctors will monitor the participants in the III phase of clinical trials of the COVID-19 Sputnik V vaccine for 180 days, all information about side effects and adverse reactions will be transmitted to a special information system, the Russian Ministry of Health reports.

              Is Interfax credible to you?
              https://www.interfax.ru/russia/725223
              Those. the study is not finished yet, the 3rd phase is the most massive and the most important and it will last six months, which is why Western vaccines have not yet entered the market, they don’t joke with such things, but we are ahead of the rest of the world, hurray, we are the first
              1. Ka-52
                Ka-52 1 October 2020 12: 08 New
                +4
                what exactly is he misinterpreting? if you do not know why are you answering? in my opinion even the laziest already knows about it

                what do you mean? That the effectiveness of the vaccine has not been proven? Or does it have so many side effects that they outweigh the positive effects of using it?
                1. _Ugene_
                  _Ugene_ 1 October 2020 13: 48 New
                  0
                  I quote -
                  Which was allowed for mass use without waiting for the end of the third stage of testing?

                  You are lying, my friend. You fake openly.

                  that's what I answered
                  what do you mean? That the effectiveness of the vaccine has not been proven?
                  I want to say that the most massive and most important phase of testing has not been passed - the third. We have it in parallel with mass vaccination, only for this reason we are "the first in the world", the United States released its vaccine even earlier, but they do not test it for the entire population until the third phase of testing is over, they will not release it on the market, like everyone else manufacturers in the world
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 1 October 2020 10: 25 New
            +2
            The world wants to live. To hell with these conclusions. And they are right, if you want to live, you will eat, prick and accept.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 10: 46 New
              -5
              Quote: tralflot1832
              The world wants to live.

              The mortality rate from covid to 60 years is lower than from seasonal flu. The vaccine is indicated from 18 to 60 years old, at a time when more than 90% of the dying are over 60.
              Where is the meaning of vaccination?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 1 October 2020 10: 59 New
                +4
                I work with a huge number of contacts. And I know what is happening, besides the Ministry of Health. Personal responsibility, and vaccination. I’m waiting for it to be brought. I’m tired of playing this lottery, I know personally those who have had covid. I don’t wish the enemy.
              2. g1washntwn
                g1washntwn 1 October 2020 11: 30 New
                +4
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Where is the meaning of vaccination?

                Most likely at your "korea parties".
                An organism that does not have an immunological reaction is a carrier for much longer than a vaccinated one - the sooner you recover - the fewer contacts - more survivors are at risk. The risk group, for your horizons, is not an attachment to age, it is a link to diseases. Do you have a certificate that your body will not get any complications from covid?
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 11: 38 New
                  -5
                  Quote: g1washntwn
                  is a carrier for much longer than the vaccinated

                  Who told you that? belay The vaccinated person is only less at risk of complications, and nothing more. The developers of the vaccine speak directly about this. Everything else is the same.
                  Quote: g1washntwn
                  Do you have a certificate that your body will not get any complications from covid?

                  Should I have it? belay
                  Where are they given out, do not tell me? wink
                  1. g1washntwn
                    g1washntwn 1 October 2020 12: 22 New
                    +4
                    Read about immune memory. If you do not have one congenital or acquired (we believe that covid is a new antigen unfamiliar to the immune system and you did not introduce your body to it through the vaccine), then before the immune defense reaction is activated, it will also take time for the body to recognize this threat, to develop the necessary antibodies etc. This time is enough for the pathogenic irritant to hit your weak point - get a complication. If you have already suffered from the disease asymptomatically, then your immunity has quickly isolated it, the reaction to re-infection will be faster.
                    General health certificates are issued for medical examination, google about the presence of antibodies to covid-19 at the place of residence.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 12: 36 New
                      -3
                      Quote: g1washntwn
                      Read about immune memory.

                      Yes I know. I also know that she does not work when she encounters a new strain like a virus she knows.
                      I will return to the previous comment - with the fact that the vaccinated is a carrier exactly as much as the unvaccinated, do you agree?
                      As for the certificate, should I have it?
                      1. g1washntwn
                        g1washntwn 1 October 2020 12: 55 New
                        +2
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        ... before the activation of the immune defense reaction, it will also take time for the body to recognize this threat, develop the necessary antibodies, etc.

                        No. Justify the opposite.
                        The presence of a certificate is required in special cases, for example, before an operation, etc. If you spit on the health of others and your own, no.
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 13: 13 New
                        -3
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        No. Justify the opposite.

                        Awesome argument! good
                      3. g1washntwn
                        g1washntwn 1 October 2020 13: 57 New
                        +2
                        Primitively trying to twist the arrows. I gave my arguments (twice). Doubt Google is available. Your reasoning is missing from the comments in principle. I doubt that they will appear in this discussion, therefore I do not consider it necessary further ...
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 14: 17 New
                        -3
                        What are the arrows, sweetie? belay Where we started from, remember? There is not a single evidence of scientists who say that the vaccinated is the carrier of the virus for less time than the unvaccinated. You claim it.
                        Second, why should I have a certificate stating that my body will not get complications from Covid? Besides, I would like to see the doctor who prescribes one. For no doctor in his right mind can write out such a game. But you again argue that such certificates can be obtained during medical examination.
                        Your arguments are at the level of delirium, excuse me.
                      5. g1washntwn
                        g1washntwn 1 October 2020 14: 41 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        There is not a single evidence of scientists who say that the vaccinated is the carrier of the virus for less time than the unvaccinated.

                        The axiom requires no proof. But if you ask so, that is the spread of viruses itself, in the group without vaccination the number of infected grows faster than in the group vaccinated against this disease. Pure mathematics. The largest natural "experiment" - polio Netherlands, whooping cough, Great Britain.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        a certificate that my body will not get complications from Covid

                        Not issued. The list of diseases most susceptible to complications from covid-19 is in the public domain. If in doubt yourself, ask a specialist to tell you which chronic you are at risk for.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Your arguments are at the level of delirium, excuse me.

                        God will forgive ... and you are being treated (just kidding)
                      6. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 15: 00 New
                        -1
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        The axiom does not require proof.

                        And when did an unsubstantiated statement become an axiom? belay
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        polio Netherlands, whooping cough

                        You are confusing vaccinations, which protect against disease, and vaccines, which only reduce the likelihood of complications. wink
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        Not issued

                        Then why are you asking me for this? belay
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        and you are being treated (just kidding)

                        Well, at least with a sense of humor, you are fine! good
    2. Ka-52
      Ka-52 1 October 2020 12: 10 New
      +6
      Mortality from covid to 60 years is lower,

      your whining that the vaccine is not needed by everyone on this site. Okay, you don’t believe it yourself. But take it and go to Komunarka and tell all those who are choking on the ventilator that they are simulators and alarmists. If you leave without a garbage can on your head, I will be very surprised
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 12: 31 New
        -2
        Your narrow-mindedness is beginning to bother me - why should I go to Komunarka, I do not deny that Covid is a severe form of ARVI anyway.
        I gave as an example figures and facts - is there something logical, without troll patterns about "eternal whining"?
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 1 October 2020 12: 43 New
          +3
          why should I go to Komunarka

          you just understand that a bucket of slops on your head is provided. So you piss
          Covid severe ARVI

          yes, nothing at all. Just think that the mortality rate from covid in six months has already exceeded the annual mortality rate from ARVI by 2 times, with all the anti-pandemic actions. What a trifle. Gorlopanam like you is not an argument.
          I gave an example of numbers and facts.

          20 thousand Russians could still live and live. And they died of an illness that one chatterbox here considers a trifle. So much for the numbers
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 13: 12 New
            -3
            Quote: Ka-52
            20 thousand Russians could still live and live

            If it were not for the policy of the government licked by you, which reduces the number of beds, even more people could live, who died from a variety of other diseases. Over the past year, only in the Saratov region. 900 beds were optimized. In Samara, almost twice as much.
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 2 October 2020 04: 40 New
              +1
              If not for the politics of the power you lick,

              if you don't want to be considered a liar, then pzhl send me links to "licking the power by me."
              Over the past year, only in the Saratov region. 900 beds were optimized.

              can we then discuss the problem of alcoholism, as a result of which more people die? Or industrial injuries. Do you understand what a sequence of judgments is? Or like a bazaar woman collecting everything in a heap? We discussed the vaccine and its need for us citizens of the country.
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 1 October 2020 09: 43 New
    +7
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Read the tags on your clothes, turn the mug over, it says on the bottom where it was made.

    In the United States, by the way, it is the same. Therefore, Trump is afraid to leave the country without "Chinese toilet paper". He continues to be friends with the PRC, clenching his teeth, angrily gazing in their direction with his eyes, promises to restart all production within the States.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 10: 15 New
      -4
      Quote: g1washntwn
      In the USA, by the way, the same

      No, not the same, the percentage of goods produced in the USA is much higher than ours.
      In addition, almost the entire scientific and technical base of electronics manufactured in China is located in the USA. We often have only Russian brand, development and production in China. hi
      1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 October 2020 12: 40 New
        +1
        The share of the real economy in the US GDP is 19%, in Russia 34%, which is more than 19 or 34?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 13: 06 New
          -1
          Are the GDP figures weak to compare? wink In addition, you do not analyze the real economy by industry, I spoke specifically about production, and not about the extraction and export of resources. The US GDP is little dependent on resource exports, which cannot be said of Russia's GDP.
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 October 2020 17: 16 New
            +1
            So I compare figures in GDP and compare,  wink you yourself wrote, "
            percentage of goods produced in the USA ... "

            "I was talking about production", no, you were talking about goods, and resources are also goods.

            According to the International Monetary Fund, in 2012, the share of industrial production and services in the structure of US GDP was 22,1% ($ 3,23 trillion) and 76,8% ($ 11,2 trillion), respectively.
            (Since then, the share of services has grown)
            Comparison with industrial production in other countries as of 2012 (in billions of dollars):

            USA - 3239
            Russia - 1360
            Japan - 1359
            Germany - 921
            Brazil - 560
            France - 539
            As you can see, per capita is about the same, (USA and Russia)
            By the way, resource extraction is not a small part of the American industry!

            "In 2018, the US climbed to second place in terms of oil production for the first time (after Saudi Arabia; Russia fell to third place for the first time)."

             
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 17: 28 New
              -2
              Let's do this - to compare the share of the non-resource industry in the United States and Russia.
              And the share of raw materials exports in the GDP of the United States and Russia.
              These will be honest numbers without any manipulation.
              1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 October 2020 17: 39 New
                0
                What does this have to do with raw materials, not raw materials, because you initially talked about goods ???
                Once again your quote:
                "No, not the same, the percentage of goods produced in the US is much higher than ours."
                I proved to you that not higher (if only a little bit)!
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 18: 11 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                  What does it have to do with raw materials, not raw materials

                  You mentioned raw materials at the end of your comment. request
                  Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                  I proved to you

                  This is not evidence. We consider -
                  US GDP 21,4 trillion. dollars, Russia's GDP 1,5 trillion. USD More than 15 times less.
                  Share of prom. production in the US GDP 22%, almost 4,5 trillion. USD Russia's GDP is only 1,5 trillion. dol, and the share of prom. production 34%. In figures, this is only 500 billion. USD And given the fact that industrial production is considered part of the extractive industry, the comparison is far from in favor of Russia.
                  Once again, the US population is twice as large, and the manufacturing GDP is 9 times larger. Accordingly, per capita by 4,5 times. wink
                  1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                    Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 October 2020 11: 09 New
                    0
                    Let's start with the fact that calculating GDP at par in $ is not very, let's say, objectively, since more than 80% of the US GDP is services, and they, as everyone knows, are not very, very cheap. For example, it costs about 5 tons to treat a tooth one-time, in the states about $ 800, i.e. for one dentist appointment with the same result, the US GDP will increase 10 times more than in Russia, or another example, an operation on the appendix, we have 40t.r, in America 40t $, in a similar situation, the US GDP will increase 70 times more! Therefore, it is necessary to calculate the GDP at PPP.
                    We take data from the World Bank for 2019, the USA ~ $ 21,4 trillion, the Russian Federation ~ $ 4,2 trillion for 2019, according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, the real sector takes about 20%. (2019) If we take strictly industry, then 15% , in Russia for 2019 the industry is 30%, by not tricky arithmetic calculations we get $ 9726 per capita in the US, and we have $ 8600, not such a big difference! wink

                    "And taking into account the fact that industrial production is considered part of the extractive industry ..."

                    And in the US, the mining industry is considered agriculture ???
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 1 October 2020 09: 21 New
    0
    Take it easy.
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    1. lucul
      lucul 1 October 2020 09: 17 New
      -1
      and what kind of Russia is a superpower .. and who interferes with a superpower? Of course, Zhidomasonny ... all sorts of pee pee ... and the Americans with the Anglo-Saxons. feudal remnants of the past. and can only organize a black redistribution ...

      Russia is simply hindered by love for people.
      If she had at least 1% hatred of people from the Zionists, the whole world would have long been - Russia.
      1. apro
        apro 1 October 2020 09: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: lucul
        Russia is simply hindered by love for people

        How to understand this? And to what people? Or maybe not just ...
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 October 2020 09: 45 New
        0
        I fully support you. It's good that I was not the initiator, I would have smashed everything. hi drinks
      3. indy424
        indy424 1 October 2020 09: 50 New
        -5
        oh yes, of course. completely forgot who is to blame. of course the Zionists shit on you in the doorways. and taik would have long ago become a superpower
        1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 October 2020 17: 22 New
          0
          In general, my entrance is clean, and where I don't go, it's not dirty everywhere request
          1. indy424
            indy424 3 October 2020 00: 03 New
            0
            that's it, a special Zionist service is already coming to you, shit
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 1 October 2020 09: 25 New
    +1
    “If in the military sense Russia is already a superpower, then in many important areas, such as economy and technology, Russia is lagging behind.” If it were not for the economy and technology, the Russian Federation would not have become a MILITARY superpower. For military equipment is the focus of the latest technologies. Moreover, some of the current Russian technologies are ahead of the West. Even if you do not take military equipment, the usual toilet in the Russian module on the space station works without problems, and in the American module it clogs all the time. Only now the United States is going to send a new toilet into orbit. Whether it will be better than the previous one is another question. Air leaks occur in the American module, but not in the Russian one. The calorific value of Russian TVELs is higher than that of Westinghouse ones, and the cost price is $ 321 less per assembly. Russian teams took first places in the world Olympiads in physics and programming, but in mathematics they only lost, no, not the United States or Sweden, but China.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 October 2020 09: 36 New
      +2
      Guys, I work in a general educational center on the Black Sea. You saw how the kids' eyes are burning. Indeed, we are collecting the best. I would not be allowed to go to school for such an appearance, in due time, but he is a computer genius. white envy. And most importantly, everything is under the sovereign's eye. hi
    2. Selevc
      Selevc 1 October 2020 09: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Boris Epstein
      West. Even if you do not take military equipment, an ordinary toilet in the Russian module on the space station works without problems, and in the American module it gets clogged all the time.

      It's not even about the toilet on the ISS - look where ordinary Americans live, what they eat and what they talk about ??? !!! They live in houses with plywood walls, they eat the same chemicals, they have jokes and conversations about "below the belt" topics !!! As the saying goes, one born to crawl cannot fly !!!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 1 October 2020 09: 25 New
    +2
    Well, what kind of Westerners ..... the same clichés ..... just not interesting, their fantasy is over ...... (and then the most famous phrase of Sergey Lavrov !!!! wassat
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 1 October 2020 09: 33 New
    -2
    Basically it is true, adequate ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 October 2020 09: 35 New
    +1
    you have to choose between Chinese and Western technologies, and she will never have her own
    So from where if, according to Western opinion, we still slurp soup with bast shoes. That's just interesting, but what about hypersound, air defense, and the same vaccine? Or hypersound, the vaccine was stolen from the Americans, and modern air defense from the Chinese? Don't "Swedish experts" know that modern weapons cannot be created relying on old technologies and using them exclusively.
  • Holsten
    Holsten 1 October 2020 09: 36 New
    +5
    For me, if a person lied about one issue, then the rest cannot be trusted. This is about the Swedish allusions to the hundred thousandth demonstrations, despite the fact that "itself" Nexta in an interview with Dudu hinted at a significant exaggeration of these data. And also this constantly falling rating of Putin, which apparently should already be negative based on their perceptions. Whatever they have an argument, then a "blooper".
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 1 October 2020 09: 49 New
    +1
    laughing These Swedish experts are such "experts" that even "British scientists" will be given a head start. laughing
  • APASUS
    APASUS 1 October 2020 09: 52 New
    +2
    ... Putin has been talking about this for almost 20 years, claiming that Russia has the right to superpower status and its own sphere of interests in the surrounding regions.

    It is Russia that is trying to obtain the status of a superpower, it is the USA that is trying to deny the whole world of multipolarity, it is forming a neo-feudal system. It is not only Russia that proves that not everything in the world depends on the Americans!
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 1 October 2020 09: 58 New
    0
    here's just the opinion of "various other Swedes" forgot to ask ... not small neutrals to talk about global politics ... they are always out of business ... even with an opinion ...
  • saveall
    saveall 1 October 2020 10: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: saveall
    What super technologies are there in the West that cannot be replicated?

    So why not reproduce ..? Where are our electronics, pharmacology, mechanical engineering? Are you aware that we have everything imported .. there is no smartphone of our own ..
    What technologies the West has really succeeded in is in the technology of brainwashing its inhabitants

    Ours are not lagging behind here either ..
    Look at the indicators .. demographics, living standards .. everything is in a deep .. hole, but there are still people who welcome it .. you for example.

    Well, continue to trend and whine at fate further and then the standard of living and demography will immediately jump up. Our propaganda is just childish babble in comparison with the destructive western one, which creeps out of all the cracks ... And besides, any state propaganda works the same way. Is not it so? Nonsense about freedom of speech not to offer ...
    On the Internet, in some periods of exacerbation of schizophrenia, it seems that it is impossible to find the most abstract group on the most abstract topic, where bots do not crawl out their nonsense in the form of slogans about a bad life in Rashka, or an advertisement with some MBKh and other crap does not come out ... Is this not propaganda? Or what to call it?
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 1 October 2020 10: 14 New
    -3
    Such a country needs a leader like STALIN to lead the country to a superpower. Now they will start screaming, he is a tyrant, you need to take and use all the BEST, take from Roosevelt, Lee Kuan Yew. Then you can hope that RUSSIA will become SUPERPOWER. In the meantime, a financial-oligarchic capitalism has been created, stupid, incompetent, thieving, corrupt, cynical. which is a dead-end branch of the development of our Fatherland.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 October 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      The country needs new sales markets - there will be sales markets there will be money for everything out of thin air, they will not take it and the economy will not grow without them. And plants and factories to build just so that they would stand or work at a loss, no one will.
      1. apro
        apro 1 October 2020 14: 59 New
        -2
        Quote: Vadim237
        The country needs new sales markets

        And what can Russia sell - the entire range of industrial production - the latest educational technologies - with what to enter the market with a bundle of firewood and a gas cylinder?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 October 2020 18: 40 New
          0
          50000 items of goods - firewood and gas including.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 October 2020 10: 36 New
      0
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      stupid, mediocre, thieving,

      And firmly grasping power!
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 1 October 2020 11: 44 New
    0
    As for "there is no one to replace" - when Stalin lived out his last years and months, they were also afraid that "there was no one to replace", when he died like that people generally cried and scratched their faces - "what will happen now?"
    Khrushchev came to power - and for all the controversy of this figure, the country developed and under him - space, detente, building up nuclear potential, etc. In terms of living standards, we were closest to the West during the time of the late Khrushchev. At the same time, the man was not a successor, and was absolutely unlike his predecessor in the style of management.
    I don't mean that it was gorgeous, I mean that the sky did not collapse on the heads of Soviet citizens. And in our case this will not happen either.

    Regarding the "rebellious people of Belarus" - the scale of this problem against the background of Ukrainian and Georgian anatagonism, as well as the brewing massacre between Arm. and Azerb. just fades. In general, we undertook to drag too big a strap for our current economy, and for 30 years after the collapse of the USSR we did not want to reorganize the CIS so that it would be a dynamic and mutually beneficial relationship. Due to the weakness of our economy and cultural stagnation, the former Soviet states will leave us one after another, even though we will have nuclear weapons, even annihilating ones.
    For what we bring to the surrounding countries there is no healthy modern spirit - only some kind of modernized oligarchic cyber-scoop.

    For the sake of justice, Europe is not on the rise either - they are forced to slowly give back, because in addition to traditional overseas competitors, an array of Asian competitors have appeared on their products, and branched sanctions networks interfere with the traditional competition in promising markets. However, unlike us, Europe knows how to save money, as well as rely on an array of professionals in management and banking. So if we talk about the "growing gap", then I would say that we are falling together, but with different speed (and we are also told that this is an upward flight)
  • tacet
    tacet 1 October 2020 11: 50 New
    +2
    Over the past 15 years, 95% of "analytics" (both ours and Western ones) is just a set of clichés and stereotypes and an attempt to draw conclusions based on them.
    In military terms, a superpower, but without technology, apparently armament in Siberia grows on cedars, or is imported.
    The abyss in prosperity - this button accordion has been used in the West for a long time (I think it is more for domestic consumption than for propaganda in the Russian Federation.), But those who live at least a year in the EU will no longer be led to it.
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  • ZVS
    ZVS 1 October 2020 15: 31 New
    -2
    If Putin did not see himself as the emperor of a superpower, then perhaps he would start building up Russia without dependence on other countries. The clever emperor makes other countries depend on his country. Like Xi Jinping.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 October 2020 18: 51 New
      0
      China on a foreign boble, a cheap energy source, coal and numerous cheap labor, has risen since the 70s, so it is silly to compare Russia with China, to put it mildly, but like with all other countries
  • Aleksandr123
    Aleksandr123 1 October 2020 23: 14 New
    0
    "After the attempt to poison the oppositionist, many countries criticized Russia."
    1. How did they decide that there was an attempt at poisoning. "What is your evidence?"
    2. If there is evidence of poisoning (somewhere in super secret places, carefully guarded), then what does the criticism of Russia have to do with it? After all, it is quite obvious that if the poisoning took place, it was on the territory of Germany. Well, Germany should be criticized, condemned, called to account, demanding a harsh investigation from her. After all, it is clear that he would not have been sent there, he would have been alive and well through the efforts of our doctors.
    So the experts are not very expert there. Beginners, I guess. For Zen it will do.
    "There is simply nobody to replace Putin in Russia" - Here is a headache for them. So there somewhere Guaido runs after the failure with Venezuela. They don't want to offer it?