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Zelenskiy fired a representative of Kiev from the contact group for claiming that Ukraine is not at war with Russia

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When asked about the participation of the Russian Federation in the war in Donbass, a member of the Ukrainian delegation to the TCG contact group Vitold Fokin replied that he had not yet noticed any signs of a Russian-Ukrainian war. For these words he was dismissed from the delegation.


Not long before this, the words of the 87-year-old politician about the Donbass caused the outrage of the nationalists and the presidential team. He advocated the special status of these territories and a complete amnesty for the participants in the hostilities. At the same time, he (oh, horror!) Called the armed forces of the republics "rebels". He had already apologized for his statements, but then said that Ukraine is not at war with Russia. This was the last straw for the Ukrainian authorities. They considered these words outrageous and decided to remove Vitold Fokin from the delegation, punishing him for his sanity.

The politician was removed from office on the basis of a presidential decree, which appeared on the website of the President's Office on September 30. The wording stated that he "departed from a fair assessment of the occupation of Crimea and part of the Donbass."

Unpleasantly amazed by the personal assessments and comments given by the first deputy head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group Vitold Fokin in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine at a meeting of the Committee on the Organization of State Power, Local Self-Government, Regional Development and Urban Planning.

- indicated in the statement of the Office of the President of Ukraine.
Photos used:
https://ru.wikipedia.org, автор Anatoliy Pashko
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  1. Avior
    Avior 30 September 2020 17: 40
    +7
    It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
    As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
    The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out. smile
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 30 September 2020 17: 52
      11
      They clung to the peasant ... there the entire government is in "close relationship".
    2. nnm
      nnm 30 September 2020 17: 52
      11
      And the rest of Zelensky's team, of course, are not his friends / partners at all! Yes, and the fact that the views have not clarified - no need to compose. There was Sivokho, one of the moldy friends. But he said what the Nazis did not like. And where is he now? Or did Zelensky not know his views? He knew everything perfectly well, he's just an ordinary puppet without his own will
  2. Alien From
    Alien From 30 September 2020 17: 44
    -3
    It all reminds of something ... whoever is not with us is against us ... it was already like this ...
  3. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 30 September 2020 17: 44
    -4
    And in an African tribe, the leader does not feel real if, in the process of initiation, his forehead is not smeared with the blood of a young rooster ..
    What is it all about? How much can you copy and paste nonsense?
  4. Mouse
    Mouse 30 September 2020 17: 50
    +6
    indignation of nationalists

    Nationalists run the show and Zelensky ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 30 September 2020 17: 54
      +4
      This is for sure - whoever dines nationalists, he dances Ukraine.
  5. fn34440
    fn34440 30 September 2020 17: 51
    +9
    A grand piano was brought to the UN. Everyone is looking forward to Zelensky's speech.
  6. nnm
    nnm 30 September 2020 17: 56
    14
    Yes, not for his words, he fired him, but for the fact that no one in Ukraine would dare to ask why they are "at war" with Russia, and Ukrainians are dying. Why are some Ukrainians on both sides going to exchange, why can't they show the declared 200 thousand Russian servicemen and 700 tanks ...
    For, then, that would not ponder not asked - but is this war beneficial to the Ukrainian authorities. Which under this brand can calmly steal, arrange legal chaos, linguistic genocide, etc. Whatever was asked about what he promised before the elections, he is completely different.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 30 September 2020 17: 58
    13
    truth pricks eyes and aspen stake stabs ghouls right into the heart. So they fire the "negotiators". And the puppet president is afraid to go against the Nazis. Otherwise the truth will emerge that THEY ARE ALL CRIMINALS.
  8. iouris
    iouris 30 September 2020 18: 03
    +6
    "Grandpa threw a grenade through the window: grandfather is old, he doesn't care ..."
    Thank the granfather for the victory.
  9. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 30 September 2020 18: 03
    +9
    They kill for the truth, so I got off easily.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      30 September 2020 18: 11
      +7
      He lives in Ukraine, so he hasn't got off yet. There are enough scumbags.
  10. 23424636
    23424636 30 September 2020 18: 14
    +1
    The Dnipropetrovsk synagogue is unpleasantly surprised that a hole in the shape of a star of David has formed in its roof. On the one hand it is beautiful to look at the moon through a hexagon. But on the other hand mosquitoes fly in and sting, and spread West Nile fever among the Hasidim. They sent an old roofer to patch up the hole. .but no, it became stuffy and sweat floods with peysics. To remove the old and put a young IT specialist, let the iPhone cover the hole ...
  11. Andrea
    Andrea 30 September 2020 18: 29
    +7
    All nishtyaki from the "war" with Russia breaks off.
    Heroes turn out to be not heroes at all, but punishers and sanctions suddenly become strange because Russia is not involved in the implementation of the Minsk agreements .... and so on this occasion, the fifth point is torn.
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 1 October 2020 02: 35
      +3
      Quote: Andrea
      sanctions suddenly become strange because Russia is not involved in the implementation of the Minsk agreements ...

      Even if the Minskys comply, they will come up with new sanctions. There would be a reason))) Strong Russia is not needed by the Naglo-Saxons)))
  12. orionvitt
    orionvitt 30 September 2020 18: 51
    +5
    punishing him for his sanity.
    Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.
  13. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 September 2020 19: 43
    0
    Quote: Avior
    It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
    As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
    The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out. smile

    Quote: Avior
    It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
    As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
    The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out. smile

    of course, of course))))) Zelya and Co. are holy people and they are "non-uniform")))) Rafik himself came
  14. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 September 2020 19: 46
    0
    Well, Pani and Panov, Ukrainians (ki) are not enough of you in the ground))))) do not want peace ..... let's shoot gentlemen .... until I see a powerful ANTI-military movement in Ukraine - I don’t believe in Ukrainians hungry for peace
  15. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 30 September 2020 20: 20
    +1
    Oh, wey, what's going on on Independent: as soon as a day, they catch another Kremlin agent.
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 September 2020 21: 01
    +3
    The monkeys are outraged by a man entering their ranks. Not surprising
  17. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 September 2020 21: 07
    -1
    I read the comments and came to the conclusion that such articles cannot be published in Russia, otherwise our "tatupeds" will come to the conclusion that the retirement age should be raised to 90 years.
  18. Kushka
    Kushka 30 September 2020 22: 53
    +1
    Quote: orionvitt
    punishing him for his sanity.
    Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.

    Nobody punished him. This was the mission on which he
    signed - go out and blurt out loudly. To see,
    what will happen next. View "inside" (in the "Servant of the People" part)
    and "outside" - from the National Bolsheviks. Reconnaissance in force, so to speak.
    Grandfather did the job, got the money, both sides of the quota.
    But what is the mission of another grandfather, Kravchukata is still intriguing.
    Despite the fact that the first is connected with the second-bad grandfather / good grandfather.
    In short, they gave it to bude.
    And to shoot (Ovsigovets) ..... so they shot already - and in the 18th (after
    the "passage" of Muravyov, the population of Kiev was, as in the regional center)
    and in 33 and 37 and from 39 to 50 (I was at the cemetery in Uzhgorod in
    1968 I couldn't believe my boy's eyes - "the Red Army soldier I ......,
    killed by nationalists in 1949 - everyone wondered why everyone
    "Red Army men" and what does 1949 have to do with it. Two tanks at the entrance, and behind
    a stele cylinder of propane-butane, like a grandmother in the village). How did I see
    the poster in the center "25 years of Soviet power!"
    Not, well, if your hands itch, but do nothing else smarter in
    the head does not come, it is understandable. Just listen well-
    applause after each shot - it's overseas
    rejoice as brother kills here. In 1991, they won
    victory, but apparently, they believe that it is not complete. So they rejoice-
    they don't even need to shoot, the Slavs themselves will shoot each other.
  19. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 September 2020 23: 06
    +3
    Quote: Kushka
    Quote: orionvitt
    punishing him for his sanity.
    Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.

    Nobody punished him. This was the mission on which he
    signed - go out and blurt out loudly. To see,
    what will happen next. View "inside" (in the "Servant of the People" part)
    and "outside" - from the National Bolsheviks. Reconnaissance in force, so to speak.
    Grandfather did the job, got the money, both sides of the quota.
    But what is the mission of another grandfather, Kravchukata is still intriguing.
    Despite the fact that the first is connected with the second-bad grandfather / good grandfather.
    In short, they gave it to bude.
    And to shoot (Ovsigovets) ..... so they shot already - and in the 18th (after
    the "passage" of Muravyov, the population of Kiev was, as in the regional center)
    and in 33 and 37 and from 39 to 50 (I was at the cemetery in Uzhgorod in
    1968 I couldn't believe my boy's eyes - "the Red Army soldier I ......,
    killed by nationalists in 1949 - everyone wondered why everyone
    "Red Army men" and what does 1949 have to do with it. Two tanks at the entrance, and behind
    a stele cylinder of propane-butane, like a grandmother in the village). How did I see
    the poster in the center "25 years of Soviet power!"
    Not, well, if your hands itch, but do nothing else smarter in
    the head does not come, it is understandable. Just listen well-
    applause after each shot - it's overseas
    rejoice as brother kills here. In 1991, they won
    victory, but apparently, they believe that it is not complete. So they rejoice-
    they don't even need to shoot, the Slavs themselves will shoot each other.

    I'm talking about another shooting ... Donbass ... until they agree there will be more and more corpses ... more and more ... I wonder HOW MANY Ukrainians should be killed so that they want to stop the war in any way
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 1 October 2020 02: 31
      +2
      Quote: Ovsigovets
      I'm talking about another shooting ... Donbass ... until they agree there will be more and more corpses ... more and more ... I wonder HOW MANY Ukrainians should be killed so that they want to stop the war in any way

      Wars end exactly when they are not beneficial to both sides, they begin to negotiate.
      In the Russo-Japanese of 1905, the Russians seemed to be losing, and the Japanese wanted to sign the peace treaty faster)) One Japanese general said then:
      - Another such victory and I will be left without an army!
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 1 October 2020 19: 08
        +1
        In the Russo-Japanese 1905, the Russians seemed to lose, and the Japanese wanted to sign the peace treaty faster

        The Japanese wanted the whole of Sakhalin, but our diplomat outplayed them, bluffed. Either half or not a peace treaty. Thus, Russia defended a springboard for a future response. Under the tsar, Russia had professional diplomats. Remember the incompetent crying Kozyrev. All that can be given for a gift. By the way, where is he now? Must be in America or England eats up hard earned?
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 1 October 2020 19: 13
          +1
          Quote: Alex Justice
          By the way, where is he now? Must be in America or England eats up hard earned?

          In the states, he lives in Miami. He earned his hard-earned money by speculating on T-bills, his actions and other comrades led to the 1998 default. And so it barks at Russia through the Puddle.
          1. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 2 October 2020 09: 10
            0
            I knew it. Shit, steal and then hide. Where do such high posts come from?
            1. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 2 October 2020 15: 18
              0
              Corruption and elitism of the government, at this stage of the country's development, this cannot be avoided
  20. Mimino
    Mimino 1 October 2020 07: 28
    +2
    Let him be glad that he left this kublo!
  21. likana
    likana 1 October 2020 20: 05
    0
    It's time for The Lensky to dismiss the Minister of Defense for not reporting the victory in the war with Russia.
  22. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 5 October 2020 14: 17
    -1
    can not be, how so?