Zelenskiy fired a representative of Kiev from the contact group for claiming that Ukraine is not at war with Russia

When asked about the participation of the Russian Federation in the war in Donbass, a member of the Ukrainian delegation to the TCG contact group Vitold Fokin replied that he had not yet noticed any signs of a Russian-Ukrainian war. For these words he was dismissed from the delegation.

Not long before this, the words of the 87-year-old politician about the Donbass caused the outrage of the nationalists and the presidential team. He advocated the special status of these territories and a complete amnesty for the participants in the hostilities. At the same time, he (oh, horror!) Called the armed forces of the republics "rebels". He had already apologized for his statements, but then said that Ukraine is not at war with Russia. This was the last straw for the Ukrainian authorities. They considered these words outrageous and decided to remove Vitold Fokin from the delegation, punishing him for his sanity.

The politician was removed from office on the basis of a presidential decree, which appeared on the website of the President's Office on September 30. The wording stated that he "departed from a fair assessment of the occupation of Crimea and part of the Donbass."

Unpleasantly amazed by the personal assessments and comments given by the first deputy head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group Vitold Fokin in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine at a meeting of the Committee on the Organization of State Power, Local Self-Government, Regional Development and Urban Planning.

- indicated in the statement of the Office of the President of Ukraine.

Comments

[Avior]

It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out.

[Cananecat]

They clung to the peasant ... there the entire government is in "close relationship".

[nnm]

And the rest of Zelensky's team, of course, are not his friends / partners at all! Yes, and the fact that the views have not clarified - no need to compose. There was Sivokho, one of the moldy friends. But he said what the Nazis did not like. And where is he now? Or did Zelensky not know his views? He knew everything perfectly well, he's just an ordinary puppet without his own will

[Alien From]

It all reminds of something ... whoever is not with us is against us ... it was already like this ...

[Senka naughty]

And in an African tribe, the leader does not feel real if, in the process of initiation, his forehead is not smeared with the blood of a young rooster ..
What is it all about? How much can you copy and paste nonsense?

[Mouse]

indignation of nationalists

Nationalists run the show and Zelensky ...

[nnm]

This is for sure - whoever dines nationalists, he dances Ukraine.

[fn34440]

A grand piano was brought to the UN. Everyone is looking forward to Zelensky's speech.

[nnm]

Yes, not for his words, he fired him, but for the fact that no one in Ukraine would dare to ask why they are "at war" with Russia, and Ukrainians are dying. Why are some Ukrainians on both sides going to exchange, why can't they show the declared 200 thousand Russian servicemen and 700 tanks ...
For, then, that would not ponder not asked - but is this war beneficial to the Ukrainian authorities. Which under this brand can calmly steal, arrange legal chaos, linguistic genocide, etc. Whatever was asked about what he promised before the elections, he is completely different.

[Egoza]

truth pricks eyes and aspen stake stabs ghouls right into the heart. So they fire the "negotiators". And the puppet president is afraid to go against the Nazis. Otherwise the truth will emerge that THEY ARE ALL CRIMINALS.

[iouris]

"Grandpa threw a grenade through the window: grandfather is old, he doesn't care ..."
Thank the granfather for the victory.

[Incvizitor]

They kill for the truth, so I got off easily.

[Kuzmitsky]

He lives in Ukraine, so he hasn't got off yet. There are enough scumbags.

[23424636]

The Dnipropetrovsk synagogue is unpleasantly surprised that a hole in the shape of a star of David has formed in its roof. On the one hand it is beautiful to look at the moon through a hexagon. But on the other hand mosquitoes fly in and sting, and spread West Nile fever among the Hasidim. They sent an old roofer to patch up the hole. .but no, it became stuffy and sweat floods with peysics. To remove the old and put a young IT specialist, let the iPhone cover the hole ...

[Andrea]

All nishtyaki from the "war" with Russia breaks off.
Heroes turn out to be not heroes at all, but punishers and sanctions suddenly become strange because Russia is not involved in the implementation of the Minsk agreements .... and so on this occasion, the fifth point is torn.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Andrea

sanctions suddenly become strange because Russia is not involved in the implementation of the Minsk agreements ...

Even if the Minskys comply, they will come up with new sanctions. There would be a reason))) Strong Russia is not needed by the Naglo-Saxons)))

[orionvitt]

punishing him for his sanity.

Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Avior

It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out.

Quote: Avior

It is known how an 87 year old bored grandfather, a former prime minister of Ukraine, ended up in the TCG.
As it turned out, his granddaughter is on close friendly terms with Yermak, the head of the president's office. She introduced them, which she herself said in an interview ..
The fact that Fokine's views, to put it mildly, do not quite coincide with the official ones, as nobody found out.

of course, of course))))) Zelya and Co. are holy people and they are "non-uniform")))) Rafik himself came

[Ovsigovets]

Well, Pani and Panov, Ukrainians (ki) are not enough of you in the ground))))) do not want peace ..... let's shoot gentlemen .... until I see a powerful ANTI-military movement in Ukraine - I don’t believe in Ukrainians hungry for peace

[Metallurg_2]

Oh, wey, what's going on on Independent: as soon as a day, they catch another Kremlin agent.

[Reserve buildbat]

The monkeys are outraged by a man entering their ranks. Not surprising

[Reserve buildbat]

I read the comments and came to the conclusion that such articles cannot be published in Russia, otherwise our "tatupeds" will come to the conclusion that the retirement age should be raised to 90 years.

[Kushka]

Quote: orionvitt

punishing him for his sanity.

Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.

Nobody punished him. This was the mission on which he
signed - go out and blurt out loudly. To see,
what will happen next. View "inside" (in the "Servant of the People" part)
and "outside" - from the National Bolsheviks. Reconnaissance in force, so to speak.
Grandfather did the job, got the money, both sides of the quota.
But what is the mission of another grandfather, Kravchukata is still intriguing.
Despite the fact that the first is connected with the second-bad grandfather / good grandfather.
In short, they gave it to bude.
And to shoot (Ovsigovets) ..... so they shot already - and in the 18th (after
the "passage" of Muravyov, the population of Kiev was, as in the regional center)
and in 33 and 37 and from 39 to 50 (I was at the cemetery in Uzhgorod in
1968 I couldn't believe my boy's eyes - "the Red Army soldier I ......,
killed by nationalists in 1949 - everyone wondered why everyone
"Red Army men" and what does 1949 have to do with it. Two tanks at the entrance, and behind
a stele cylinder of propane-butane, like a grandmother in the village). How did I see
the poster in the center "25 years of Soviet power!"
Not, well, if your hands itch, but do nothing else smarter in
the head does not come, it is understandable. Just listen well-
applause after each shot - it's overseas
rejoice as brother kills here. In 1991, they won
victory, but apparently, they believe that it is not complete. So they rejoice-
they don't even need to shoot, the Slavs themselves will shoot each other.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Kushka

Quote: orionvitt

punishing him for his sanity.

Exactly. Common sense is not held in high esteem in Ukraine. Results as they say on the face.

Nobody punished him. This was the mission on which he
signed - go out and blurt out loudly. To see,
what will happen next. View "inside" (in the "Servant of the People" part)
and "outside" - from the National Bolsheviks. Reconnaissance in force, so to speak.
Grandfather did the job, got the money, both sides of the quota.
But what is the mission of another grandfather, Kravchukata is still intriguing.
Despite the fact that the first is connected with the second-bad grandfather / good grandfather.
In short, they gave it to bude.
And to shoot (Ovsigovets) ..... so they shot already - and in the 18th (after
the "passage" of Muravyov, the population of Kiev was, as in the regional center)
and in 33 and 37 and from 39 to 50 (I was at the cemetery in Uzhgorod in
1968 I couldn't believe my boy's eyes - "the Red Army soldier I ......,
killed by nationalists in 1949 - everyone wondered why everyone
"Red Army men" and what does 1949 have to do with it. Two tanks at the entrance, and behind
a stele cylinder of propane-butane, like a grandmother in the village). How did I see
the poster in the center "25 years of Soviet power!"
Not, well, if your hands itch, but do nothing else smarter in
the head does not come, it is understandable. Just listen well-
applause after each shot - it's overseas
rejoice as brother kills here. In 1991, they won
victory, but apparently, they believe that it is not complete. So they rejoice-
they don't even need to shoot, the Slavs themselves will shoot each other.

I'm talking about another shooting ... Donbass ... until they agree there will be more and more corpses ... more and more ... I wonder HOW MANY Ukrainians should be killed so that they want to stop the war in any way

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I'm talking about another shooting ... Donbass ... until they agree there will be more and more corpses ... more and more ... I wonder HOW MANY Ukrainians should be killed so that they want to stop the war in any way

Wars end exactly when they are not beneficial to both sides, they begin to negotiate.
In the Russo-Japanese of 1905, the Russians seemed to be losing, and the Japanese wanted to sign the peace treaty faster)) One Japanese general said then:
- Another such victory and I will be left without an army!

[Alex Justice]

In the Russo-Japanese 1905, the Russians seemed to lose, and the Japanese wanted to sign the peace treaty faster

The Japanese wanted the whole of Sakhalin, but our diplomat outplayed them, bluffed. Either half or not a peace treaty. Thus, Russia defended a springboard for a future response. Under the tsar, Russia had professional diplomats. Remember the incompetent crying Kozyrev. All that can be given for a gift. By the way, where is he now? Must be in America or England eats up hard earned?

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Alex Justice

By the way, where is he now? Must be in America or England eats up hard earned?

In the states, he lives in Miami. He earned his hard-earned money by speculating on T-bills, his actions and other comrades led to the 1998 default. And so it barks at Russia through the Puddle.

[Alex Justice]

I knew it. Shit, steal and then hide. Where do such high posts come from?

[ZEMCH]

Corruption and elitism of the government, at this stage of the country's development, this cannot be avoided

[Mimino]

Let him be glad that he left this kublo!

[likana]

It's time for The Lensky to dismiss the Minister of Defense for not reporting the victory in the war with Russia.

[Nastia makarova]

can not be, how so?