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Aliyev named the only condition for ending the fighting in Karabakh

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Aliyev named the only condition for ending the fighting in Karabakh

The only condition for ending hostilities in Karabakh is the withdrawal of units and military equipment of the Armenian army from this territory, other options are not considered. President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev stated this.


According to Aliyev, who visited a hospital in Baku on Wednesday, if the Armenian army is withdrawn from the territory of Karabakh, the fighting will immediately stop.

We have losses. But this is the right thing. International law is on our side ... We have one condition - the unconditional withdrawal of the Armenian Armed Forces from the occupied territories. If the Armenian government fulfills this condition, the fighting will stop, peace will come

- he said.

At the same time, the Azerbaijani army was instructed not to take any measures in relation to the Armenian civilian population of this territory. Aliyev specified that the Armenians have no problems on the territory of Azerbaijan, thousands of ethnic Armenians with Azerbaijani passports live in the republic.

The head of Azerbaijan stressed that Azerbaijan will restore its territorial integrity anyway. There is "no need" for calls for dialogue, Aliyev noted, the negotiation format on Karabakh has not yielded results.

We are restoring historical justice. Karabakh is the original territory of Azerbaijan. It is enough to look at history ... We want to restore our territorial integrity, we do and will do it

- he added.



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  1. Pytnik
    Pytnik 30 September 2020 16: 17
    +1
    BAKU, September 30 - RIA Novosti. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry stated that Armenia used the Tochka-U tactical missile system on the contact line in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    "Due to the unsuitability and low quality of the enemy's military equipment, three of the missiles fired did not explode," a representative of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.
    Also in Baku they said that they struck a blow at the Armenian military headquarters in the region.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 30 September 2020 16: 29
      +6
      "Due to the unsuitability and low quality of the enemy's military equipment, three of the missiles fired did not explode," a representative of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.

      Everything is fine there with the quality of military equipment, but there could be problems with service.
      1. Vend
        Vend 30 September 2020 17: 10
        21
        Well, let's turn to history. In May 1805, the local ruler Ibrahim Khalil Khan took the oath to Emperor Alexander I. The transfer of Karabakh to the citizenship of the Russian Empire was confirmed by the Treaty of Kurekchay signed at the same time. Since 1868 it belonged to the Elizavetpol province. The Autonomous Region of Nagorno-Karabakh (NKR) with its center in the village of Khankendi (later renamed Stepanakert) appeared in 1923. In 1936, after the adoption of the new Union Constitution, it was renamed the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region (NKAO). For several decades, external calm was established in the region. What Azerbaijan is the territory of Russia. laughing It is visible only when Nagorno-Karabakh returns to Russia, there will be peace.
        1. hrych
          hrych 30 September 2020 17: 28
          -3
          Quote: Wend
          It is visible only when Nagorno-Karabakh returns to Russia, there will be peace.

          Well, or when one of the parties is destroyed. Strange as it sounds, the Republic of Azerbaijan is on the verge of losing its statehood and its division between the Russian Federation and Iran has come very close, thanks to Turkey. Aliyev's losses are forced to continue to the end, since he cannot justify the loss of a fifth of the potential, if not more, by returning a pair of skyscrapers. In general, he linked his fate with this adventure. He clearly underestimates the Armenians and their influence on the world establishment.
          1. hrych
            hrych 30 September 2020 19: 26
            0
            Here is a video showing the clearly plywood Wasps being struck. 1:40 and 2:25
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 30 September 2020 20: 43
              +4
              By the way, in this video, from 0:27 an object similar to an electronic warfare "Repellent" installation is struck. Azerbaijani sources claim that this is he.
              There is an article about this Repellent on VO.
              https://topwar.ru/106457-v-rf-razrabotan-kompleks-reb-dlya-borby-s-miniatyurnymi-bespilotnikami.html
              And you have a diamond eye! In the video in this quality, not everyone can distinguish plywood from steel. And what about tanks? Cardboard?
              1. hrych
                hrych 30 September 2020 21: 18
                0
                Certainly the use of decoys for a normal VO commentator is not surprising laughing especially such frank rubbish as in the video. They also use old, previously damaged and unusable equipment for false targets. In the Russian Federation, a whole production of inflatable and other equipment. It is also certain that barrage ammunition gives Armenians a lot of problems and they had a lesson earlier, but not for the future. Now they will adapt again and the losses will be reduced. War teaches quickly. If the repeater worked, then the drone would be out of order. It looks like it's just a previously destroyed skeleton. But, the fact is that the Armenians withstood the first blow. The fact that they did not flinch. Now it's their turn to bring surprises. These are very advanced people, both in science, politics, etc. There are many nuclear scientists, biologists and chemists among Armenians. If Baku is blown up, I will not be surprised wassat
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 30 September 2020 21: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: hrych
                  Undoubtedly, the use of false targets for a normal VO commentator is not surprising laughing, especially such blatant rubbish as in the video. They also use old, previously damaged and unusable equipment for false targets. In the Russian Federation, a whole production of inflatable and other equipment.

                  Maybe so, but we must not forget the damage to prestige. It is profitable for Armenians and Azerbaijanis to post a video where equipment is being destroyed. Ponty in the Caucasus are very much appreciated. Even videos from the opposite side or from other hostilities are laid out.
                  Was the Repellent working? How to find out the truth? After all, she suffers in the war first of all. For you, for example, this is a matter of faith. You and the air defense system are plywood and the Repellent is not included and any other case, I am sure, will explain in favor of the Armenians a la "grenades of the wrong system" ...
                  The Armenians withstood the first blow, but it is not a fact that they will survive the war of attrition. Azerbaijan is still richer, and the Turks are ready to fork out.
                  And if Baku is blown up, then Yerevan will also be blown up. God forbid, of course, that it came to this.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 30 September 2020 21: 51
                    -1
                    There is nothing to blow up Yerevan with. It would have been blown up long ago. Armenians do not know how to fight. But Azerbaijanis are even worse. Therefore, third countries and third countries have never been able to fight. Statehood was not conquered, but fell from the sky. War of attrition speak. Georgia will receive an order from France and cargo will not go to Azerbaijan. Iran will not allow the blockade of Armenia. And here's another look who will bend forward. Here is the key role of Russia for Azerbaijan borders on it. I know one thing neither the RF, nor the EU, nor Iran will allow the Turks to dominate the Transcaucasia, including the elimination of Azerbaijan and Turkey itself as necessary. When they begin to say, wai, wai, this cannot be, then it is worth remembering the same Georgia, which was forced to peace. Why is Baku cooler? That Azerbaijan is a friend of Russia is a bullshit. This is a competitor of our oil and gas sector, which will be liquidated. The Russian Federation seized the Syrian shelf for the sake of pipes (or rather, their absence) and deposits, challenging everyone. Obama then turned gray. Our Commander-in-Chief looks, the view does not show, and then, as he smacks and does not seem a little. Think about it.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 30 September 2020 22: 12
                      +3
                      Quote: hrych
                      Georgia will receive an order from France and cargo will not go to Azerbaijan. Iran will not allow the blockade of Armenia.

                      Again, you build everything on faith. And if there is no order?
                      Quote: hrych
                      I know one thing neither the RF, nor the EU, nor Iran will allow the Turks to dominate in the Transcaucasus

                      As you know, (you) may not be allowed to dominate, but the "bone" to the Sultan in the form of Karabakh may be given. Otherwise, he will open the floodgates and Europe will become even more multicultural for a couple of million people.
                      Quote: hrych
                      The Russian Federation seized the Syrian shelf for the sake of pipes (or rather, their absence) and deposits, challenging everyone.

                      It's time to seize oil places, when the price of oil is fucking small and civilized countries are looking for an alternative to this oil. Moreover, if there is oil, the infrastructure needs to be improved. And then to restore Syria with this oil. The game is not worth the candle.
                      Quote: hrych
                      Our Commander-in-Chief looks, does not show

                      The commander-in-chief IMHO is now looking a little the other way. Not to the South, but to the West towards the Smolensk region, EVPOCHYA.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 30 September 2020 22: 23
                        +1
                        The refugees will not be allowed anymore. Neither Bulgaria nor Greece. Start to forget about it. It won't happen again. More interesting information for you. Iran is pushing troops towards Azerbaijan. After the statements of the Turks about their readiness to intervene. If you remember there was a moment in Idlib when the Turks wanted to enter Idlib and even attacked the SAA. Then Iran presented an ultimatum and threatened to smash across Ankara. Hysterical E, put on trousers and utuh. It was in Syria, it was in Egypt, it was in Greece. Who said that this E will go to Karabakh to the end? Who E hasn’t scared yet? Ilham is not of great wisdom, he was led. Well, I think that the Aliyev dynasty is already ending. For some reason, such a large and strong regional player in BV as Iran is forgotten by everyone. He has a BR, a strong military-industrial complex, a motivated army and determination. And most importantly, Iran is not a situational ally for the Russian Federation, but its very existence makes it so.
                      2. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 30 September 2020 22: 54
                        0
                        You have a pro-Armenian position, of course. Be patient a little, you will be upset when your hopes and forecasts will fly into the abyss. I can tell you that you are very primitive protecting Armenians, reminding this frame from https://www.youtube.com/watch? v = HLXFPPGv70I
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 30 September 2020 23: 15
                        0
                        And why should I harness myself for pan-Turkists and Islamists? wassat Or should I honor the watermelon speculators? I remember how the shops defaulted on prices. Now these shops are bankrupt and great. For Turkey to reach our southern borders and the Caspian Sea, should I wish? This will not happen. And you will soon be surprised. Our Foreign Ministry has already accused Azerbaijan of using terrorist mercenaries. This is not a bell, but a small one, but a bell. In fact, Aliyev was called veiled ... an accomplice of terrorists. The Azerbaijan that we knew will soon be gone.
                      4. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 30 September 2020 23: 28
                        0
                        You can at least support the Martians, this is your right. But even defending your Martians, you must have at least the slightest conscience and objectivity. Dosvidos, who accuses us of everything ethnonaz and pro-imperial chauvinist. Of course, you can't see this log in your own eye, and you won't see it, there same log
                      5. hrych
                        hrych 30 September 2020 23: 37
                        +2
                        I don't care much about Armenia. But I am worried about Russia and its security. Aliyev sacrificed neutrality, sold himself to Erdogan and brought in terrorists. He thinks that after selling himself he will return Karabakh. But now you can't see Karabakh like ears. And a rare case when the interests of the EU, the Russian Federation and Iran coincided.
                      6. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 30 September 2020 23: 50
                        -9
                        Baku responded to the statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry on foreign mercenaries in Karabakh
                        .................................. ............................
                        "Commenting on the statement of the Information and Press Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry on the delivery of foreign mercenaries to the conflict zone, we would like to note that we have repeatedly expressed concern about the widespread use of such funds by Armenia." This is stated in the statement of the press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan.

                        “Armenia attracted terrorists and mercenaries from foreign countries, especially from the Middle East, during the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent regions of Azerbaijan, as well as in subsequent acts of aggression against our country.

                        The fact that Armenia in recent months introduced foreign mercenaries to the occupied territories as part of its policy of illegal settlements and used them in offensive operations against Azerbaijan under the cover of "volunteer groups" once again demonstrates that terrorism is part of the state policy of Armenia, "says in the statement.

                        Earlier, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that Moscow is concerned about reports of the transfer of militants of illegal armed formations to the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

                        "According to the information received from the Russian side, militants of illegal armed formations are being transferred to the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict," the message says.
                      7. hrych
                        hrych 1 October 2020 00: 01
                        +1
                        So what? Like a sneak in response to the Armenians? Kindergarten, only bloody. Let him answer for himself. Aliyev lied to our citizens on TV that there were no terrorist mercenaries. There is such a good term - a political corpse. The family reigned thanks to Russia, that's enough, it's time for a new, democratic leader wassat
                      8. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 1 October 2020 00: 11
                        -4
                        Well, knowing your objectivity) I will quote the text of the statement. If you tell me exactly where Azerbaijan is accused in this statement, then I agree with you. But if you don’t do this, you are balabol.
                        .................................................. .................................................. .........
                        Russia has data on the transfer of mercenaries from Syria and Libya to the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh, which could lead to further escalation, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

                        “According to the information received, militants of illegal armed formations, in particular from Syria, Libya, are being transferred to the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in order to directly participate in hostilities,” the message says. The Foreign Ministry stressed that, according to Russia, such processes lead to a further escalation of confrontation and "create long-term threats to the security of all countries in the region."

                        "We call on the leadership of the states concerned to take effective measures to prevent the use of foreign terrorists and mercenaries in the conflict and to immediately withdraw them from the region," the Russian Foreign Ministry added. Which countries were meant, the department did not specify.
                      9. hrych
                        hrych 1 October 2020 00: 26
                        -1
                        Can't read? They say the Russian Federation has information about the transfer from Syria and Libya ... What's not clear? Therefore, we have a usurper - a liar and an accomplice of terrorists.
                        Quote: Oquzyurd
                        you balabol

                        It's better to go to Karabakh than hang around on a Russian site. laughing you will hardly find sympathy for Pan-Turkism here.
                      10. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 1 October 2020 00: 36
                        +1
                        I was in the first war, now I’m almost an old man. But if you need me, I’ll go without hesitation. But at the moment it’s not less important that such liars and slanderers are exposed, even without the sympathy of others. You are simply deceiving people, and for a man it is equivalent to forgive .... and. Find the word Azerbaijan in the text of the Foreign Ministry, I will take all the words back. "About the transfer from Syria and Libya ... What's incomprehensible?" In these countries there are a lot of Armenian symposians, did you know? ))) The topic is closed, your lodges did not pass.
                      11. hrych
                        hrych 1 October 2020 01: 15
                        0
                        Is there a problem with logic? Apparently badly fought once lost Karabakh. Have you thought about a peaceful settlement? AND? Get the world's compulsion to the fullest.
            2. SAG
              SAG 1 October 2020 01: 12
              0
              Quote: hrych
              I don't care much about Armenia. But I am worried about Russia and its security. Aliyev sacrificed neutrality, sold himself to Erdogan and brought in terrorists. He thinks that after selling himself he will return Karabakh. But now you can't see Karabakh like ears. And a rare case when the interests of the EU, the Russian Federation and Iran coincided.

              The interests of the EU, which lie tightly under the United States, are the involvement of Russia in a conflict with Turkey, do not have any illusions. It is Russia's interests to resolve the conflict as bloodlessly as possible. Pashinyan is a provocateur and protege of the United States, in his government there are only Soros halui. He does not feel sorry for the Armenian people either. The conflict is being artificially inflated.
            3. hrych
              hrych 1 October 2020 01: 23
              +2
              Yes, I am not interested in Pashinyan, I am interested that the Turks are going to climb into the Transcaucasus and Russia will not tolerate a Turkish base in Azerbaijan. So it was in the Crimea. And we will not beat the Turks if we don’t climb, as long as we need to force Azerbaijan to peace and, in the future, replace the rotten, dynastic regime there.
            4. Greenwood
              Greenwood 1 October 2020 08: 47
              -1
              Quote: hrych
              it is necessary to compel Azerbaijan to peace and, in the future, replace the rotten, dynastic regime there.
              Azerbaijan's "rotten dynastic regime" has good relations with the equally rotten Russian regime. So who will replace whom and force to peace?
            5. SAG
              SAG 2 October 2020 04: 03
              0
              Go to a good psychoanalyst dear. You have Napoleon's syndrome. Want to change dynasties, coerce and issue ultimatums. You are not interested in details and nuances, and I think you don’t care about the price ... Your Highness is not to pay you.
            6. hrych
              hrych 2 October 2020 06: 44
              +2
              The subsoil of the seized territory will pay. We didn’t just save Assad, but we killed a herd of hares. They disposed of the barmaleevs, including citizens of the CIS, and received a base from which the Bosphorus, Suez, Haifa and the Persian Gulf are being bombarded. We got a shelf with an oil reserve, like our half of the proven reserves. We did not receive left pipes in the EU. They worked out their weapons and drove the officers through the war. Turkey's coup was thwarted along the way and NATO cracked. Even the EU has cracked. Braceted. Etc.
        2. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 1 October 2020 13: 14
          +1
          Sorry to interfere, but if Turkey continues to rock the pan-Turkist idea, Russia will have to hack to death with the Ottomans.
        3. hrych
          hrych 1 October 2020 17: 48
          +1
          The last Ottomans were overthrown over a hundred years ago. These are not the Ottomans, but the Turkic-speaking parsley from the Ottoman slaves, where the majority of the population are descendants of Islamized Greeks and Armenians, and Turkic Arabs.
        4. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 1 October 2020 18: 28
          0
          Do not forget to add there the Turkified Georgians Laz, Circassians and Vainakhs, descendants of the Muhajirs of the Northern Caucasus, Crimean Tatars, fugitive Basmachs, Turkmens migrating from Iran, Kurds and Yuruk. The Armenians, the Hemshils, the Muslims remained there as well.
        5. hrych
          hrych 1 October 2020 18: 50
          +1
          These minorities, therefore, the Turks are dominated by the Mediterranean, Semitic haplogroup J, in the region of 40%. She is Semitic so and so, characteristic of Arabs and Jews. But today's Greeks (not to be confused with the Hellenes) also account for 40% of this haplogroup and a quarter of Armenians too. It's just that Armenians have 40% more erbines. And it was they who increased the number of Turks with this haplogroup to a decent 13%. The Turks could no longer take it from other peoples. Conclusion: 40% of Turks are Greeks (not to be confused with Aryans-Hellenes) and Arabs, up to a fifth are Armenians. And everything else is in the form of parsley. 60% or more of today's Turks are of Greek-Arab-Armenian origin. More precisely, you need to look at mutations. And the Turks .. it doesn't smell there wassat But the language is Turkic.
        6. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 1 October 2020 21: 25
          0
          Wow, what interesting information and to which of the two Semitic peoples are these Greeks who are not Hellenes closer? bully
        7. hrych
          hrych 1 October 2020 22: 47
          0
          Here you need to look at mutations. It is possible that a separate branch. I'm not ready to say. Nooo adherents of the Abramic religions. Orthodox are called. And there are also curly-haired Italians (not to be confused with the Latins), who are also adherents of the Abrahamic religion, i.e. Catholics. In general, religion is the veneration of an ancient ancestor. So they honor their Abram. Arabs - Islam, Italians-Catholics, Greek-Orthodox, Jewish Jews. And after all ... they are similar. And the Greeks venerated Ares, also Ares. The Latins of Mars. The first ancestor is Aria. Think about it.
        8. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 1 October 2020 23: 24
          0
          What a pity that you do not know, otherwise I wanted to be enlightened for whom to drown in the Arab-Israeli conflict wassat
        9. hrych
          hrych 1 October 2020 23: 32
          +1
          For the Greeks, of course wassat
  2. hrych
    hrych 30 September 2020 22: 34
    +2
    https://m.ru.armeniasputnik.am/karabah/20200930/24689079/A-Osy-ved-ne-nastoyaschie-azerbaydzhantsy-unichtozhili-kartonnye-makety-armyanskikh-ZRK.html
    Not only my diamond eye wassat
  3. Hypertension
    Hypertension 30 September 2020 22: 49
    +3
    If it's true - the models, then the Armenians are great, of course. But they hastened. You could have deceived. Plus or minus 2-3 installations is, by and large, nothing for a war.
    Quote: hrych
    For some reason, such a large and strong regional player in BV as Iran is forgotten by everyone.

    To be fair, this "largest and strongest" Israel slaps in the face almost every day in Syria.
    Well, in general, we will look as they say. Nix over the past 30 years in those places hefty. Both sides have accumulated both ammunition and hatred. The main thing is that Russia does not fit in at the wrong moment and then turn out to be extreme.
  4. Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 1 October 2020 00: 39
    -3
    Quite fresh footage from numerous "layouts" https://haqqin.az/news/190667
  5. hrych
    hrych 1 October 2020 01: 00
    +2
    I am not interested. Losses are inevitable. I know that the blitzkrieg was not successful, I know that it will not work to recapture Karabakh from yours and I know that I will have to answer for unleashing the massacre.
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  7. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 1 October 2020 08: 12
    -1
    Quote: Hyperion
    Quote: hrych
    Georgia will receive an order from France and cargo will not go to Azerbaijan. Iran will not allow the blockade of Armenia.

    Again, you build everything on faith. And if there is no order?

    "A belief that no one shares is called schizophrenia."
    (Victor Pelevin. Generation "P") wassat
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 30 September 2020 23: 55
    +5
    Three years ago there was a forecast that there would be no Azerbaijan.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 October 2020 16: 12
    -3
    Dreaming is not harmful Khrych, but maybe on the contrary, this is Armenia, a parasitic (on the neck of Mother Russia, of course) under-state, dependents "the oldest! On the verge of losing statehood?"
  • Andrew 40
    Andrew 40 1 October 2020 05: 17
    +2
    When will the national leader come who will gather the Russian lands.
  • ioan-e
    ioan-e 30 September 2020 17: 10
    +6
    Quote: Pytnik
    BAKU, September 30 - RIA Novosti. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry stated that Armenia used the Tochka-U tactical missile system on the contact line in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    And they showed pictures of the tails of the Hurricane rockets! laughing
  • Dikson
    Dikson 30 September 2020 17: 32
    +4
    In the light of the latest exercises with the launch of the S-400 .. - about the point -U - everything is very likely ..
  • Maz
    Maz 30 September 2020 17: 48
    10

    If you believe the data that comes through from the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, then by Friday prayer the number of the Armenian army will go to minus.
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 30 September 2020 16: 18
    29
    Translated into Russian, Aliev is not going to withdraw troops and stop hostilities!
    The Armenians will not leave Nagorno-Karabakh voluntarily, they will resist and will increase their combat losses "for a just cause, according to Aliyev," both at home and at the enemy.
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 30 September 2020 16: 22
      +4
      Well, now it is more clear for what it was started and where it came from.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 30 September 2020 16: 28
        +5
        Quote: Evil543
        Well, now it is more clear for what it was started and where it came from.

        And what is clear?
        laughing
        While the main ally of Azerbaijan - Turkey cannot help him in any way, Azerbaijan, without thinking, decided to start a war?
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  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 30 September 2020 16: 23
    +9
    Fills the price before the inevitable upcoming negotiations.
    They do not have any decisive successes and prospects.
    But if he really believes in war to the bitter end, sorry.
    He seemed to be a smart and quite adequate politician.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 September 2020 16: 28
      -2
      Quote: Livonetc
      inevitably upcoming negotiations.

      laughing
    2. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 30 September 2020 16: 39
      +8
      They do not have any decisive successes and prospects.
      The Armenian Armed Forces have a hopeless situation, one step away from the catastrophe with the fall of Martakert, the entire front will crumble, and the fact that this will happen is less and less doubtful.
      But if he really believes in war to the bitter end, sorry.
      So he says leave yourself or we will destroy you, he understands the state of affairs at the front.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 September 2020 16: 26
    42
    Russia must help!
    Armenians to Armenia, and Azerbaijanis to Azerbaijan.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 September 2020 16: 29
      11
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Russia must help!
      Armenians to Armenia, and Azerbaijanis to Azerbaijan.

      It is impossible, Armenia will definitely get an advantage.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 30 September 2020 16: 27
    0
    It looks like this time Azerbaijan just won't calm down ...
    1. Ela myaushkina
      Ela myaushkina 30 September 2020 16: 30
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      It looks like this time Azerbaijan just won't calm down ...

      Because the Armenians have already gotten them pretty.
      1. nnm
        nnm 30 September 2020 16: 40
        +3
        If such issues are resolved by war, then you can simply forget about peace
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 September 2020 16: 44
          0
          Quote: nnm
          If such issues are resolved by war, then you can simply forget about peace

          Too often the conflict has escalated Previous - in July
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 30 September 2020 17: 39
          +4
          Has he ever been on our ball, even a year without a war?
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 30 September 2020 18: 50
            +2
            They calculated: there were years. Not sure if the count is statistically reliable. It's just that conflicts are closer, then further.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 30 September 2020 17: 14
      -1
      And he himself reports this in plain text, and not for the first time.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 30 September 2020 16: 34
    24
    Russia should draw conclusions at least from this conflict about the success of the use of UAVs.

    To counter such attacks from the air, air defense systems are needed that are not made on one platform, but spaced apart - radars separately, launchers separately and calculation with command post separately. Moreover, it is necessary to provide for the possibility of connecting several radars, OLS and PU to one CP. Then we will get a stable air defense system that, in the event of a radar defeat, can use another radar or OLS, the same with a launcher. In this case, in the event of the defeat of the radar and launcher, people will remain intact. And when on the same chassis both radar and launcher and the calculation is good for mobility, but bad for defense, in case of defeat everything and everything dies at once.
    1. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 30 September 2020 17: 35
      +8
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Russia should draw conclusions at least from this conflict about the success of the use of UAVs.

      To counter such attacks from the air, air defense systems are needed that are not made on one platform, but spaced apart - radars separately, launchers separately and calculation with command post separately. Moreover, it is necessary to provide for the possibility of connecting several radars, OLS and PU to one CP. Then we will get a stable air defense system that, in the event of a radar defeat, can use another radar or OLS, the same with a launcher. In this case, in the event of the defeat of the radar and launcher, people will remain intact. And when on the same chassis both radar and launcher and the calculation is good for mobility, but bad for defense, in case of defeat everything and everything dies at once.

      These drones are a serious enemy only for very weak armies like Syria or Armenia. The radius of the strike capabilities of these UAVs is several times less than the radius of the Armor's work, I'm not talking about the Buk. With proper air defense management, all these drones are just a toy. An example is Khmeimim. And look what Armenia allows them. Shots are often shot vertically from top to bottom. That is, a healthy one is flying right above your positions, visible from all radars, controlled by radio, and having the speed of a corn-grower AND YOU DO NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT !!! Of course, in this situation, they are effective. But this only speaks of the equipment and quality of training of the Armenian air defense, nothing more.
      1. vadsonen
        vadsonen 30 September 2020 19: 40
        +2
        It is important to compare the cost of attack (the price of a drone) and the cost of defense (the price of a radar, missile, etc.) Beech is too cool for a drone.
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 30 September 2020 19: 47
          +9
          Quote: vadsonen
          It is important to compare the cost of attack (the price of a drone) and the cost of defense (the price of a radar, missile, etc.) Beech is too cool for a drone.

          This reasoning is rather one-sided and only applies to local conflict. If you compare the price of a drone and a Buk rocket, then yes - a little expensive. And what if the price of the Buk missile and the price of the tank that will blow up the drone? Or the price of an air defense complex? Or MLRS? Or a truck full of live guys? If there is an opportunity to hide from blows, spending only money, then you need to hide behind. Well, let's spend more money on a defense order and that's all, all the same, these are salaries in our own country. Everything is better than a new yacht or an English football club for the price of which you can equip 4 armies like ours with Buks ... And if we talk about a serious conflict, then 15 minutes after the start, our missiles will arrive at all enemy airfields within a radius of a couple of three thousand kilometers and politely disaccustomed to massively launch drones from there. How the barmaley were actually weaned in Syria.
    2. kiborg
      kiborg 30 September 2020 17: 39
      +2
      just to fight the UAV, you need to use the electronic warfare system. Armenians seem to have problems with this ..
    3. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 30 September 2020 18: 54
      +5
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      To counter such attacks from the air, air defense systems are needed that are not made on one platform, but spaced apart - radars separately, launchers separately and calculation with command post separately. Moreover, it is necessary to provide for the possibility of connecting several radars, OLS and PU to one control point. Then we get a stable air defense system that, in case of damage to the radar, can use a friend of the radar

      Google what the zrk beech consists of at least lol The division consists of three batteries of firing installations, a command post, a command post with a separate radar. Our brigade had three divisions, in addition to those battalions and other support units. Everything has already been invented, no need to reinvent the wheel
  • iouris
    iouris 30 September 2020 16: 35
    0
    The Azerbaijani army, of course, received instructions, but "excesses" are more than possible. I remember the Budapest story, the "hero" who was released ahead of schedule, returned to Baku, and was declared a "hero" by Aliyev personally (remember: an Azeri officer "sawed off" the head of an Armenian officer in a hotel while living together).
    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 30 September 2020 17: 01
      -2
      Nobody declared anyone a hero. Don't lie. The President of Azerbaijan committed a very strong act by pulling R. Safarov out of prison, but he declared the wrong hero and did not meet with him at all. These are the Armenians of Varuzhan Karapetyan who blew up the Paris Orly airport with 8 innocent passengers of different nationalities, including. and children (dozens of crippled ones) were accepted as a national hero. The Armenian terrorist was personally congratulated on his release by the Prime Minister of Armenia, he was greeted and greeted by the entire "elite" of Armenia, their so-called. "intelligentsia". They gave the terrorist an apartment, job, etc. This Armenian terrorist still met with students and talked about his "heroism" as the Armenian newspapers wrote, they danced Armenian battle dances with the students)), sang songs and he admonished them, sharing his "experience".
      1. iouris
        iouris 30 September 2020 17: 58
        +3
        Quote: Scorpio05
        The President of Azerbaijan committed a very strong act by pulling R. Safarov out of prison

        Question: how is this act regarded by the state: as a serious criminal offense or as hostilities against Armenia and the destruction of the enemy?
    2. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 30 September 2020 17: 24
      0
      Beasts, they were called so in the Soviet army
      1. not main
        not main 30 September 2020 22: 26
        0
        Quote: rotkiv04
        Beasts, they were called so in the Soviet army

        Actually, animals. Before the animals they still have to grow and grow!
  • fa2998
    fa2998 30 September 2020 16: 36
    +2
    "Negotiations" on Karabakh have been going on since the end of the 80s of the last century! Here Aliyev is right. For over 30 years, we thought it would "dissolve" by itself. THERE SHOULD BE EXPLODED! So negotiations are not conducted. If they do not believe the CSTO and Russia, let the UN invite, there will be a new Kosovo.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 30 September 2020 17: 43
      0
      ... there will be a new Kosovo.

      Exactly! The situation, if not one-to-one, is very similar, willy-nilly parallels arise, and there was a precedent.
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 30 September 2020 16: 37
    +7
    We have one condition - the unconditional withdrawal of the Armenian Armed Forces from the occupied territories. If the Armenian government fulfills this condition, the fighting will stop, peace will come

    It seems that the world will not come soon with such sentiments of Aliyev (and Turkey is urging its neighbor to take action by helping both with weapons and militants)
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 30 September 2020 16: 49
      0
      peace, with such sentiments of Aliyev will not come soon
      The Armenian Armed Forces will not live to see it soon.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 30 September 2020 16: 41
    +1
    At the same time, the Azerbaijani army was instructed not to take any measures in relation to the Armenian civilian population of this territory.
    For this purpose, they probably brought in pro-Turkish thugs.
  • solzh
    solzh 30 September 2020 16: 48
    +4
    The only condition for the cessation of hostilities in Karabakh is the withdrawal of units and military equipment of the Armenian army from this territory, other options are not considered

    The only condition for the cessation of hostilities is the complete destruction of the forces of the Azerbaijani invaders that invaded Nagorno-Karabakh.
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  • Private89
    Private89 30 September 2020 16: 51
    0
    Well, the economic crisis in the world, what if the Armenians or Azerbaijanis think, why are we living this way, and our leaders are fattening? So ordinary Armenians and Azerbaijanis will be abandoned to kill each other, and the "elites" of these countries will rub their hands.
  • Avior
    Avior 30 September 2020 16: 51
    12
    In the early 90s, the Armenians had an advantage and gained control over part of the formally Azerbaijani territory.
    But this could not last forever, in Azerbaijan the scale is potentially larger.
    Now Azerbaijan has developed an army and believes that it can get revenge for the 90s.
    Even if this is not the case, there will be a next attempt for sure.
    Azerbaijanis will not rest until the problem is solved
    To fight also to fight.
    sad

  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 30 September 2020 16: 57
    +4
    As I understand it, the Azerbaijanis are starting to bargain?
    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 30 September 2020 17: 20
      -1
      Well, so what, these are people from the bazaar, their element is to weigh customers
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 30 September 2020 17: 08
    -1
    Quote: solzh
    Explain to me how you can be an "occupier" fighting in the interior regions of Azerbaijan (not talking about Armenia, it's not even Nagorno-Karabakh), in particular, in Fizuli region, this is practically the center of Azerbaijan, 270 km away. from the state border of Azerbaijan with Armenia?


    Please explain to me how you can be an "occupier" fighting the Armenian army in the inner regions of Azerbaijan (not talking about Armenia, this is not even Nagorno-Karabakh (NK), in particular, in the Fizuli region, it is practically the center of Azerbaijan, 270 km. From the state border Azerbaijan with Armenia? Azerbaijan occupied Azerbaijan, and its internal regions not related to NK and inhabited exclusively by Azerbaijanis before the occupation?
    1. solzh
      solzh 1 October 2020 22: 14
      -1
      Ask the Azerbaijanis why they staged the Armenian massacre? There could be no war ...
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  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 September 2020 17: 09
    -1
    Here are the honorable conditions for peace! what
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 30 September 2020 17: 10
    -3
    Quote: solzh
    The only condition for the cessation of hostilities in Karabakh is the withdrawal of units and military equipment of the Armenian army from this territory, other options are not considered

    The only condition for the cessation of hostilities is the complete destruction of the forces of the Azerbaijani invaders that invaded Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Please explain to me how you can be an "occupier" fighting the Armenian army in the inner regions of Azerbaijan (not talking about Armenia, this is not even Nagorno-Karabakh (NK), in particular in the Fizuli region, it is practically the center of Azerbaijan, 270 km. From the state border Azerbaijan and Armenia? Do you think, in general, what are you writing? It turns out that Azerbaijan occupied Azerbaijan? Moreover, its internal regions not related to NK and inhabited exclusively by Azerbaijanis before the occupation?
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 30 September 2020 17: 30
      0
      Explain to me how you can be an "occupier" fighting the Armenian army in the inner regions of Azerbaijan
      I explain that this is how the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine and punitive volunteers are fighting on the territory of Ukraine.
      1. Scorpio05
        Scorpio05 30 September 2020 17: 43
        -9
        An inappropriate analogy. What does Ukrainian dobat have to do with it? Where do you see punitive operations now? Even if punitive operations are being conducted by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, it is against the occupying Armenian forces. The territory of the Azerbaijani regions occupied by the Armenian Armed Forces (where hostilities are being conducted) were robbed by the Armenians, destroyed and burned out, the Azerbaijani population of those regions was destroyed by the most savage methods, some of the Azerbaijanis were able to escape through the territory of Iran. In these regions there is no and never have been an Armenian population. You're talking nonsense ...
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 30 September 2020 17: 53
          +3
          In these regions there is no and never have been an Armenian population. You're talking nonsense ...
          There are 170 thousand people in Karabakh, mostly Armenians and their fate is unenviable. Nonsense?
          1. Scorpio05
            Scorpio05 30 September 2020 18: 09
            +2
            First, there are no 170 thousand people in Karabakh. 50-60 thousand Armenians were left from strength
            Secondly, Azerbaijan offered to liberate 7 Azerbaijani-populated regions so that the Azerbaijani refugees would return there, under the INTERNATIONAL guarantees to the Armenian population of the guarantor countries, including the Russian Federation and others. No one is going to joke with the Russian Federation and other great countries. The Armenians flatly turned out to return the Azerbaijani-populated regions, on the contrary, having made changes in the constitution of their under-republic, included ALL these regions in its composition, in fact, making a de jure territorial annexation, leaving Azerbaijan no choice.
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 30 September 2020 18: 16
          -10 qualifying.
          don't listen to him, he yap
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 30 September 2020 17: 51
        +5
        Not quite so, Ukrainians are at war with Ukrainians on the territory of their country, this is their internal affair, and Azerbaijan is at war on the territory of its country with the army of Armenia. Even religions are different there. I am not for one or the other, it is simply always disgusting when ordinary people on both sides of the front line pay in blood for the stupidity of their politicians. This is mainly about those people who are now in power in Armenia.
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    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 30 September 2020 17: 46
      -2
      Already in positions? Do not get yourself something for a place that does not speak the new Armenian language Ashkharabar.
      1. kiborg
        kiborg 30 September 2020 20: 49
        -3
        Aliyev started this war, driving young boys to slaughter. What does he care about them? He lathers his asshole ..
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 September 2020 17: 56
      -1
      In these circumstances, it will be Armenia, since Turkey and Israel are helping Azerbaijan with weapons right now.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 30 September 2020 20: 37
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        In these circumstances, it will be Armenia, since Turkey and Israel are helping Azerbaijan with weapons right now.

        In the sense of helping? Do they help for free? They buy. They have every right to buy. This is Azerbaijani money. They buy from whom they want to buy. Who forbids the Armenians to buy for their own? Pride? Or, as always, "Give an irrecoverable loan" Ugh. And grind it. Multi-vector rotten stuff .... How not to listen so where there is "Smart" Cheee .. Over the shoulder. Come on, let's. "Great Armenian Empire" from sea to sea wassat laughing
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 October 2020 01: 06
          +1
          Armenia has almost no of its own - they bought everything with our loans, but now they are not buying because we no longer give them money.
  • rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 30 September 2020 17: 17
    -7
    Another shitty commander who drew, Generalisimus black-ass
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 30 September 2020 17: 29
    +1
    Russia, rescuing people in Donbass, sent convoys of humanitarian aid with ammunition, food, medicine. Where was Armenia our ally in the CSTO with her help? Denied Crimea and declared its independence? Enough!
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 30 September 2020 18: 15
      +3
      sent convoys of humanitarian aid with ammunition,

      ?!
      1. Maikcg
        Maikcg 30 September 2020 20: 36
        +4
        And armored personnel carriers in trucks. laughing
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 1 October 2020 08: 21
          -1
          Yes, just a collective farm fake))). I can imagine how, at the very first turn, the entire column falls on its side)
  • AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 30 September 2020 17: 44
    +1
    If Azeibarjan seizes Karabakh from Armenia by force, it will be a good example for others. The Poles will begin to forcefully squeeze the Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Volyn and Rivne regions from Ukraine, Hungary from them the Transcarpathia. Kneading will begin with renewed vigor between China, Pakistan and India. Mexico will start pumping rights to its territories occupied by the United States, but they will be afraid to climb. And the time has come for Germany to revise the German lands transferred to Poland under the terms of the international Yalta and Potsdam conferences in 1945, which were "recovered" as post-war reparations. In general, the message is this. Therefore, everyone is interested in stopping hostilities.
    1. Maikcg
      Maikcg 30 September 2020 20: 44
      0
      They won over Kosovo and no one took advantage of such a good example.
    2. iomoe
      iomoe 5 October 2020 22: 49
      0
      It will not squeeze, but return.
  • karima
    karima 30 September 2020 17: 49
    10
    Aliyev, we must give him his due, is very competent in this conflict. Deliberate and, most importantly, on time, as scheduled, statements indicate a premeditated strategy. Armenia's statements so far testify to panic, and this cannot be said, even in the worst moments. IMHO.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 30 September 2020 18: 19
    +7
    Quote: solzh
    forces of the Azerbaijani occupiers.

    Do you have an atlas? Azerbaijanis operate on their territory.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 30 September 2020 18: 34
    0
    Quote: Ash Poseidon
    Poles will start to squeeze from Ukraine by force

    I think they will have a headache when they wring out Germany-Pomerania, Silesia and Vost. Prussia! These are not Seluk!
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 30 September 2020 18: 41
    -2
    the Turks are the main threat who lit it all! and when the Russian Federation will do something close by, we do not need Islamists, etc.
  • Bomb
    Bomb 30 September 2020 18: 43
    -2
    So this is Donbass # 2.
  • svoit
    svoit 30 September 2020 19: 28
    -2
    Quote: Trapp1st
    So he says leave yourself or we will destroy you

    so he will probably deceive, because he does not ask the army of Karabakh to leave, whether it will not fall into "illegal military formations". Or is it already provided for by the Constitution of Azerbaijan?
  • RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 30 September 2020 20: 05
    +2
    30 years ago, the Armenians captured the land of Azerbaijan, and now there is a war because of this. I understand correctly?
    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 30 September 2020 21: 23
      +1
      Everything is correct. And there is.
    2. moscowp
      moscowp 1 October 2020 13: 36
      -2
      No no. There the history of the millennium issue counts, from Great Armenia, the lands were originally inhabited by Armenians. In the first years of the USSR, in 1920, some year Nagorno-Karabakh was administratively annexed to the Azerbaijan Republic on the basis of autonomy. From that moment on, the beginning of the conflict was laid, for this reason Azerbaijan considers the lands its own. Before and after that there were terrible examples of the Armenian-Azerbaijani massacre and mutual destruction, which did not allow the conflict to go out. It's funny to read how both sides try to look furry here, watering their opponents. Both those and others were marked by terrible savagery in relation to the civilian population. The Azerbaijanis were noted to a greater extent, perhaps, the Baku pogroms of 30 years ago, where not only Armenians, but also Russians and other nationalities living in Baku, fell under the distribution. I know a witness to those events, he tells terrible things. But overall, both sides are good
  • Victorm
    Victorm 30 September 2020 20: 46
    -1
    Quote: Maz

    If you believe the data that comes through from the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, then by Friday prayer the number of the Armenian army will go to minus.
    The casualties are reported by the killed and the Wounded. In terms of technique, plus or minus for sure, although some videos show the defeat of false targets.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 30 September 2020 21: 22
    +4
    There will be no negotiations. This is understandable. The conflict will last for a long time. Foreign countries will help them. Baku, will help Istanbul, Yerevan, Tehran. As in the good old days. When Turkey and Persia fought for the territories of the Caucasus, along the way, slaughtering Georgians, Armenians, and sometimes Azerbaijanis ... smile Russia should not get involved in this conflict, but try to reconcile the parties.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 30 September 2020 22: 09
      -1
      Well, why should we, as always, do not forget how the Turks will get there so they will immediately send ala to the Russian Federation to a bar and sooner than this they will cut the Armenians another faith and we will get a conflict already on our borders within the country, etc. in the Caucasus, etc. we live in pink glasses and until it touches us (soon the Russian Federation will have a choice or fight to break through a place under the sun for its interests, or we will lose interests and wait until we have all this, the choice is yours! and the EU and the USA will look like jackals to snatch from a dying tiger and in the USA there is a house there is a calmness of the grandmother resy, etc.) it is necessary to stop both is simple before it's too late and to threaten Turkey
    2. karima
      karima 30 September 2020 22: 31
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Baku, will help Istanbul, Yerevan, Tehran.
      Well, Istanbul is clear what, and Tehran? They themselves do not seem to be very good there, and it is not so easy to bring your extremely Muslimized warriors to Armenia. There will be graters.
  • Gleb Vyshinsky
    Gleb Vyshinsky 30 September 2020 22: 17
    0
    Quote: hrych
    There is nothing to blow up Yerevan with. It would have been blown up long ago. Armenians do not know how to fight. But Azerbaijanis are even worse. Therefore, third countries and third countries have never been able to fight. Statehood was not conquered, but fell from the sky. War of attrition speak. Georgia will receive an order from France and cargo will not go to Azerbaijan. Iran will not allow the blockade of Armenia. And here's another look who will bend forward. Here is the key role of Russia for Azerbaijan borders on it. I know one thing neither the RF, nor the EU, nor Iran will allow the Turks to dominate the Transcaucasia, including the elimination of Azerbaijan and Turkey itself as necessary. When they begin to say, wai, wai, this cannot be, then it is worth remembering the same Georgia, which was forced to peace. Why is Baku cooler? That Azerbaijan is a friend of Russia is a bullshit. This is a competitor of our oil and gas sector, which will be liquidated. The Russian Federation seized the Syrian shelf for the sake of pipes (or rather, their absence) and deposits, challenging everyone. Obama then turned gray. Our Commander-in-Chief looks, the view does not show, and then, as he smacks and does not seem a little. Think about it.


    With all due respect, but what about the Armenians do not know how to fight, you are clearly not in the subject. The Armenians gave 5 marshals in the Second World War, not to mention such Afghan heroes as Ter-Grigoryants, who led the Panjer operation, etc. The list is long respected.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 1 October 2020 00: 55
    -2
    let's ask a question? who lives there more in Nagorno-Karabakh? I want a referendum, let people decide as in Crimea.
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    2. iomoe
      iomoe 5 October 2020 22: 52
      0
      An incorrect comparison, no one expelled anyone from Crimea, so the vote there was fair.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 1 October 2020 00: 58
    -2
    Quote: lvov_aleksey
    let's ask a question? who lives there more in Nagorno-Karabakh? I want a referendum, let people decide as in Crimea.

    ps if anyone does not understand, I want for equality !!! That is, let the people decide Aizeybarjan or Armenia ???? !!!!!!!!!!
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 01: 57
    -1
    Quote: hrych
    Yes, I am not interested in Pashinyan, I am interested that the Turks are going to climb into the Transcaucasus and Russia will not tolerate a Turkish base in Azerbaijan. So it was in the Crimea. And we will not beat the Turks if we don’t climb, as long as we need to force Azerbaijan to peace and, in the future, replace the rotten, dynastic regime there.
    Why did the "regime" in Baku fail to please you? Do you want pro-Iranian Islamists or pro-Turkish nationalists with a slight touch of pan-Islamism?

    At one time, Russia left the loyal Mutallibov without support, and as a result received the Popular Front and Musavat in power in Azerbaijan. History is about how not to step on the same rake.

    There is not and will not be a Turkish base in Azerbaijan, listen to the squeals of our neighbors less. Azerbaijan is a self-sufficient state, it simply does not occur to you that this is a state, and not an entrance yard, and not only Russians, but also Turks do not rummage there like at home and do not do whatever they want. Only in the fantasies of the Armenians, Azerbaijan sometimes gives the Turks the command of its air force, or almost the command of the armed forces in general. I will repeat once again, Azerbaijan is a sovereign state pursuing a sovereign, balanced policy. And by the way, this is mostly the merit of the father of the current president, the very "regime", otherwise they would now have a base in their underbelly and everything else - the Baltic states flavored with Western bacon.

    Freshman:
    1. kiborg
      kiborg 1 October 2020 10: 53
      -3
      but Aliyev nevertheless started the war ...
      1. iomoe
        iomoe 5 October 2020 22: 53
        0
        Duc his asshole before that 30 years.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 11: 20
    -2
    Quote: kiborg
    but Aliyev nevertheless started the war ...
    And he had options? ... Besides the frequent provocations, there was a more important point. I wrote, but I will repeat myself, with Pashinyan coming to power Russia lost Armenia, following Ukraine to the West, or rather the States, THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, THIS IS A FACT, although many refuse to admit it directly and still think of the inertia caused by the presence of the base and large Russian capital in Armenia. Do not flatter yourself, they will be thrown out overnight by showing their teeth and stabbing a knife in their backs.
    There is a powerful Armenian lobby in the States, Azerbaijan, being a victim of Armenian aggression, think further, under US sanctions.

    Azerbaijan had a very narrow time fork - until the surrender of Armenia was formed by the final withdrawal of Russian troops from Armenia and Russia is still present in the Transcaucasus. In the version of the presence of Russia, we have at least some chances, and relations are different, and the history is common, and the diaspora is large, and Azerbaijanis are simply simply one of the indigenous nationalities of Russia. And the States will come and that's it, END, because the States have repeatedly said through the lips of NATO representatives "there is no military solution to the Karabakh conflict," they say, they have sat at the negotiating table for 30 years and are still sitting for at least 100 years because "they need it that way."
    The States have their own interest, this is the completion of the encirclement of the European part of Russia, and not least the issue of Iran. Note that Azerbaijan did not finally bend in actions against Iran near the United States, and therefore the American embassy and the base of their special services were the largest deployed in Armenia and are working on Iran from its territory, and not from Azerbaijan, as is commonly believed.
    Another problem is Belarus, the same story as with Armenia, whatever one may say, but Lukashenko is already in the position of "Yanukovych 2", and Belarus is one of the main partners in the military-technical cooperation, Azerbaijan is the second after Russia buyer of Belarusian military-industrial complex products. As soon as Tikhanovskaya and her comrades are imprisoned there, the big question is whether our cooperation will continue, whether we will have access to the products and services of the Belarusian military-industrial complex ...
    In short, I can continue to enumerate for a long time - a lot of things developed in this kaleidoscope not only not in favor of Russia, but not in favor of Azerbaijan either.

    So this was essentially the last chance, at the very least, and Turkey is butting with the States, and could support in spite of the States; and Russia has not yet left the region and has a military presence - it can snitch itself, but its presence will not allow others to do so; and Russia and Turkey, despite their contradictions, clearly not in such a confrontation as Russia and the States, have common interests and channels of communication.
    There simply would be no other such chance, well, sorry 30 years !!! Can you imagine 30 years of negotiations between Stalin and Hitler on the liberation of the Smolensk region, the Moscow region, etc.? And the Germans occupied and held less than 10% of the territory of our once common country, while Armenia occupied and holds more than 30% of the territory of Azerbaijan for 20 years.
    Even if Russia goes to military actions on the side of Armenia under some kind of sauce, for example, "Operation Peace Enforcement" and yula-bla, we have a chance to withstand, albeit with the last bit of strength, and still liberate our lands. I will repeat later there will be no other chance.
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  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 1 October 2020 12: 07
    -1
    Quote: ioan-e
    And they showed pictures of the tails of the Hurricane rockets!

    Aliyev is either deceiving or deceiving himself. On many questions already.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 October 2020 16: 14
    -2
    Quote: hrych
    https://m.ru.armeniasputnik.am/karabah/20200930/24689079/A-Osy-ved-ne-nastoyaschie-azerbaydzhantsy-unichtozhili-kartonnye-makety-armyanskikh-ZRK.html
    Not only my diamond eye wassat

    Now they are destroying on the move and with a working antenna, you can rest assured.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 October 2020 16: 26
    -2
    Quote: lvov_aleksey
    let's ask a question? who lives there more in Nagorno-Karabakh? I want a referendum, let people decide as in Crimea.

    And you add there, in addition, to the already 60 thousand Azerbaijanis of Nagorno-Karabakh itself, another 140 thousand Azerbaijanis from the occupied Kelbajar and Lachin regions of Azerbaijan, which the Armenians immediately included in their puppet "NKR" or Partsy and announced that they would not return these 2 regions under what conditions Azerbaijan and began to populate and use. Then count the total number of Armenians and Azerbaijanis in Nagorno-Karabakh, Lachin and Kelbajar regions of Azerbaijan. If the balance does not come together, add another 650 Azerbaijanis-refugees from other regions of Azerbaijan occupied by Armenians. Among them: Aghdam, Jebrail, Kubatly, Zangelan, Fizuli regions of Azerbaijan.
    By the way, having shown their usual impudence, the Armenians later included these regions (by making amendments to their constitution) into their under-republic.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 October 2020 16: 37
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    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Wend
    It is visible only when Nagorno-Karabakh returns to Russia, there will be peace.

    Well, or when one of the parties is destroyed. Strange as it sounds, the Republic of Azerbaijan is on the verge of losing its statehood and its division between the Russian Federation and Iran has come very close, thanks to Turkey. Aliyev's losses are forced to continue to the end, since he cannot justify the loss of a fifth of the potential, if not more, by returning a pair of skyscrapers. In general, he linked his fate with this adventure. He clearly underestimates the Armenians and their influence on the world establishment.

    Dreaming is not harmful Khrych, but maybe on the contrary, this is Armenia, a parasitic (on the neck of Mother Russia, of course) under-state, dependents "the oldest! On the verge of losing statehood?"
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 16: 48
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    Quote: kiborg

    Did he have options? ..

    That is, it was necessary to attack the population of this region?
    Do you want to take territories by force of arms? But you will fail again. Only kill people in vain ...
    In fact, most of the population of this region, 3 times larger, is now refugees, and the territory is the internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan.
    About the story - the story of the last conflict, I experienced it and part of it, and did not read someone else's or take on hearsay. About ancient history, if you are a Russian, then refer to the official archival data and archives of the Russian Empire, and if you are an Armenian, I will not argue with you, we argued a lot with my classmate repeating someone else's, he is without a leg, and I am just a shell, as today in the rain I can't bring a cigarette with my right hand to my mouth and I live on pills. He collected his father in parts, and I collected my brother. Continue to tell me the story and sprinkle me with links?
    I do not know how old you are, but if you are an Armenian and want the same for yourself and your peer on our side, I cannot stop you, and I myself am just waiting for the opportunity to join, unfortunately now abroad. But I will join not out of bloodlust, my brother has been avenged for a long time and multiple times, but out of philanthropy, I don’t want to hear more about this war and the problem, and let a couple of stupid parrots have to shoot their heads off or die from their hands, but I will do everything to solve this problem once and forever, and for the sake of Azerbaijanis, for the sake of their children in the end, and for the sake of the same Armenians.

    Conversations and negotiations are over, there was more than enough time for them, there is a war going on - we need to fight.
    1. kiborg
      kiborg 1 October 2020 17: 56
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      So I say, KILL PEOPLE IN Vain. And your own, and others ... But you will not achieve your goal. The Armenians will not give you the region. A lot of blood will be shed completely in vain, and the culprit will be Aliyev and people like you.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 October 2020 16: 51
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    Quote: hrych
    And why should I harness myself for pan-Turkists and Islamists? wassat Or should I honor the watermelon speculators? I remember how the shops defaulted on prices. Now these shops are bankrupt and great. For Turkey to reach our southern borders and the Caspian Sea, should I wish? This will not happen. And you will soon be surprised. Our Foreign Ministry has already accused Azerbaijan of using terrorist mercenaries. This is not a bell, but a small one, but a bell. In fact, Aliyev was called veiled ... an accomplice of terrorists. The Azerbaijan that we knew will soon be gone.

    People like you, the victims of propaganda and the clichés imposed by nationalists, have always had problems with the "friend or foe" system, used you in their own interests, and then hello to the family ... but you did not understand the sincere disposition, Therefore, these are impudent, with a feeling , plainly and by arrangement and spat in the soul:

    So, the sweet Armenian annual tradition of desecration and burning of the Russian flag over the years:
    2018 Armenians burned the Russian flag in Yerevan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt7EI46vSk

    2017, the Armenians trampled and burned the Russian flag of the Russian Federation in Yerevan. Russia out of Armenia ...
    1,190 views • Jan 14, 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-P4PXb-rL0

    2016. Armenians burn the Russian flag and commentary by Zhirinovsky
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NhYGP37-w

    2015, Armenians attacked the Russian Embassy. The flag of Russia and Putin was insulted in Armenia! - F. A .D.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkKcn4yHh_Y

    Now find the same videos with the participation of Azerbaijanis, as you said "pan-Turkists" and "Islamists".
    And in general, I wonder citizens, where did he see religious extremists in secular, high-end Azerbaijan?)
    What are you taking, dear?) Sedatives in large quantities are harmful, even validol and corvalol are addictive and hallucinations and are practically recognized as soft drugs.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 18: 18
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    Quote: kiborg
    So I say, KILL PEOPLE IN Vain. And your own, and others ... But you will not achieve your goal. The Armenians will not give you the region. A lot of blood will be shed completely in vain, and the culprit will be Aliyev and people like you.
    Have you asked questions:
    Was it not in vain that, for example, the Pskov paratroopers died in Chechnya? ...
    Was it not in vain that your grandfather or great-grandfather fought during the Great Patriotic War? If you overeat or self-shot soap, then forgive generously.
    I have questions for these questions and others, and I have no doubts for myself, there are no questions in my family, although no one is eager to leave their children orphans, or become a widow, but there is such "We must Vasya, must ..." ...
    1. kiborg
      kiborg 1 October 2020 19: 38
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      You stupid, Vasya. The Armenians will kick your asses again and you will lose some more territories. Even a purchased foreign weapon will not help you. Armenians are a nation of warriors, Azerbaijanis are traders. Even in the Soviet army, they served in the kitchen, in the food warehouse, in the construction battalion, or, at best, as a driver. The Armenians have always been engaged in combat training and know how to fight. So get ready to lose another half of the country.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 18: 20
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    Quote: Ash Poseidon
    If Azeibarjan seizes Karabakh from Armenia by force, it will be a good example for others. The Poles will begin to forcefully squeeze the Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Volyn and Rivne regions from Ukraine, Hungary from them the Transcarpathia. Kneading will begin with renewed vigor between China, Pakistan and India. Mexico will start pumping rights to its territories occupied by the United States, but they will be afraid to climb. And the time has come for Germany to revise the German lands transferred to Poland under the terms of the international Yalta and Potsdam conferences in 1945, which were "recovered" as post-war reparations. In general, the message is this. Therefore, everyone is interested in stopping hostilities.
    A little dislocation of the perception of reality. Just Armenia overcame Karabakh laughing
  • Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 20: 36
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    Quote: kiborg
    You stupid, Vasya. The Armenians will kick your asses again and you will lose some more territories. Even a purchased foreign weapon will not help you. Armenians are a nation of warriors, Azerbaijanis are traders. Even in the Soviet army, they served in the kitchen, in the food warehouse, in the construction battalion, or, at best, as a driver. The Armenians have always been engaged in combat training and know how to fight. So get ready to lose another half of the country.

    Turkey and Russia for the cessation of hostilities in Karabakh

    20:40

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu expressed serious concern over the situation around Nagorno-Karabakh and spoke for an immediate cessation of hostilities. This is stated in the message of the Russian Foreign Ministry following their telephone conversation on Thursday, reports TASS.

    "The escalation of tension around Nagorno-Karabakh was thoroughly discussed. The ministers expressed serious concern about the ongoing armed confrontation, and spoke for an immediate cessation of hostilities," the document says.

    The sides emphasized "the inadmissibility of the involvement of illegal armed groups from other regions in the conflict." "The demand for extremely balanced steps was noted in terms of providing political and diplomatic assistance to Baku and Yerevan," the message says.

    The foreign ministers confirmed their readiness "for close coordination of actions of Russia and Turkey to stabilize the situation in order to return the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict to a peaceful negotiation channel as soon as possible."

    At the same time, Lavrov drew Cavusoglu's attention to the efforts of the OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs on Karabakh, including a joint statement by the presidents of Russia, the United States and France on October 1.

    The diplomatic service noted that the parties also touched upon topical issues of the bilateral agenda and agreed to maintain further contacts.
    Kick this here is the gamer and all the other unknowns, but otherwise you are apparently right. Hmmm, the second lobby in the States and in Russia, they can throw bananas at everyone from a palm tree.
    In another topic I wrote already. "PENTAGON CONFIRMED" this is enough like wave a test tube of cocaine at the UN Security Council and raze an entire country to the ground.
    Well, comrades, an ally in the CSTO, once the "PENTAGON CONFIRMED" you, as I understand it is the most authoritative organization for the two CSTO countries, we will see nowhere to go ...
    They could neither press on the battlefield, nor exert pressure, they simply "drove with authority", because if "the Pentagon said" figs you sweep away and prove that you are not a camel, but start puffing, then wait for sanctions when they bring you to the point, Either the B-52, or the "White Swans", in about eleven years it will become clear that ... nothing happened, but the country will be in ruins.
    Well, international law in action, nothing new, we are not the first, we are not the last. I'm not gloating, but alas, Russia will be one of the following.

    From Turkish Cavusoglu, of course, I'm just in ...

    Okay, we will survive, but now there will be no naive hopes, we will not delude ourselves with any nonsense, and we have definitely decided once and for all who is the enemy, who is the friend. Those who said that this is the hour of truth were right.