Turkish press: Erdogan tries to limit Russian influence, but it could turn against himself

Although Moscow and Ankara maintain partnerships in many areas, there are serious differences between the countries over Syria and Libya. But now the geopolitical games, in which, in addition to Russia and Turkey, other global and regional players are also involved, are beginning to move to the Caucasus.

Yusuf Karatash writes about this in an article published by the Turkish edition of Evrensel.

The author asks why the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh, which has existed for at least three decades, has become aggravated today? He believes that Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan is to a large extent involved in this, who, provoking Baku to active military actions, is trying to put pressure on Russia in this way. But Karatas suggests that Ankara’s plans could backfire, which will not please Turkey.

Today, in the Middle East and North Africa, a redistribution is taking place between the United States, Russia and other major players. The situation there is such that no one can take any significant steps there. Therefore, they decided to move the front to the Caucasus.

Turkey, under the guise of supporting Baku, began to escalate tensions in the region that was previously part of the USSR. Moscow simply cannot but react to this. Thus, Erdogan is trying to distract Russia from other regions and limit its influence.

But the author believes that this plan of the Turkish leader may turn against him. As a result, not Moscow, but Ankara will have to limit its influence.

And to solve the Karabakh problem, Yusuf Karatash offers his own version. He believes that it is necessary to withdraw the participants in the conflict from the region and let the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh independently determine their status.

Comments

[U-Gin78]

Forgotten Ataturk 2015! - much earlier Lukashenko and Pashinyan performed the prodigal parrot in front of Vovka!

[Hunter 2]

Erdogan to Ataturk - as if he was wearing a ball around the Earth! Your comparison is incorrect.
Ataturk - built a Secular, Independent State. What Erdogan decided to build - I think he himself does not understand!

[U-Gin78]

Meant his Wishlist

[Hunter 2]

Quote: U-Gin78

Meant his Wishlist

Well, here desires clearly do not coincide with the possibilities!

[Grandfather]

cunning, hypocritical beast ...

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Dead Day

cunning, hypocritical beast ...

Exactly! The Father of the Nation is definitely not drawn!

[Grandfather]

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cunning, hypocritical beast ...

Exactly! The Father of the Nation is definitely not drawn!

no way

[Alex777]

I can’t understand one thing: did Erdogan make Pashinyan attack on July 12? Or was someone else stirring up the topic?

[Shurik70]

it is necessary ... to let the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh independently determine their status

What nonsense. Whichever side you choose, there will certainly be dissatisfied with the results both in Karabakh and beyond.
The long-standing conflict can only be resolved in two ways. Or quickly - to let one side win, after which it is very tough to suppress any attempts to incite the conflict. Or for a long time - to get out of the conflict for both sides and for half a century to tie the region to itself by economic methods, in every possible way trying to smooth out the consequences of the conflict in the memory of people.

[Alex777]

They did not answer that.
And I agree with the answer.

[unhappy]

There is a third way - the entry of all parties into a single state or pseudo-state.
An example is Northern Ireland. The struggle for independence was carried out both legally and by terror, the British had real problems. Peaceful life began with the entry of all parties into the European Union, with the actual erasure of borders - all the regions of Ireland seemed to be united, the people became satisfied. Now England has started to leave the European Union (again creating a border) and the old Gamna began to emerge
Shouldn't we remember about the Empire and the USSR? There were no borders, but there was a center of power, whoever tried to fight with a neighbor got it in the neck.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Hunter 2

What Erdogan decided to build - I think he himself does not understand!

Why, he perfectly understands. Just like Lukashenka, he wanted to be the tsar's autocrat, "the father of all Belarusians", so this one tries on the role of "ataturk" as well as the new emperor. Along the way to light up in history. But just who will give him. There were thousands of them in history. The political scale is not enough. Small intriguers (okay, let there be big intriguers), in their ambitions and "Napoleonic plans", are more likely to destroy the country only. And there is such a state (we will not name names, although it is overseas) that will help it in every possible way. Multi-vector, has not brought anyone to any good yet. I think so.

[nobody111body]

Well, why should this puppet Erdogan exert "pressure" on Russia? in honor of whom or what he himself will put pressure on the neighboring state; but because he is forced to do this, this is more true; the Turks themselves stupidly climb into rozhden with Russia will never be more than once they have gotten a lot of punches from us and they have grown wiser long ago, however, having done a stupidity, they entered NATO and now they have nowhere to go what they are ordered to do, then they do

[dSK]

Quote: nobody

however, having committed a stupidity by joining NATO and now they have nowhere to go, what they are ordered to do is what they do

Quite right - for the entire time of its existence, only France managed to temporarily and only partially jump out of the NATO mousetrap.
The entire Turkish generals studied in the States.

Military Review / News / Yesterday, 16:28

The head of the SVR accused the CIA of encouraging protests in Belarus and announced an impending high-profile provocation.

- tsereushniki not only in Belarus they operate.

[Horon]

Karatash offers its own version. He believes that it is necessary to withdraw the parties to the conflict from the region and let the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh independently determine their status.

Perhaps this is the wisest proposal, but Azerbaijanis who lived there were once expelled from Karabakh, and therefore cannot express their opinion on this matter.

[Livonetc]

Russia for example supports Syria.
Why shouldn't Turkey support Azerbaijan.
Moreover, people are really close in origin.
Russia also supports Azerbaijan and its territorial integrity.
But by other methods.

[Nadrub]

The Azeris have nothing in common with the Turks .... Azerbaijanis are former Persians, that is, Iranians. At least superficially study the topic so as not to disgrace (sorry if he said rudely)

[Livonetc]

I just considered this question.
This is not one people, but closely related.
These are not purebred nations, but mixtures.
Both Turks and Azerbaijanis have heterogeneous and similar ancestors (ancient peoples).
And their language is more similar than, for example, Russian and Ukrainian.

[2 Level Advisor]

George, actually they are both the former Persia .. and their roots are common, mainly from the Seljuks .. The Persians are historically just further from them, there, in addition to the Seljuks, the majority of the population from other peoples were ..

[Al_lexx]

He believes that it is necessary to withdraw the parties to the conflict from the region and let the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh independently determine their status.

Sorry, how's that? If the Armenian troops leave NK, the Azerbaijanis will simply squeeze the Armenians out of there (at best, or they may simply quietly cut them off).
I am certainly not a politician, but in my humble opinion, it is necessary to make a territorial exchange for a long time and solve this problem once and for all.

[the finish]

An extremely sober look for a Turk.

[codetalker]

Erdogan is being bred like a fool. He got into all possible conflicts. Soon there will be aggravation in Syria, Libya, in relations with Greece and the EU, and so on and so on.
And the NK problem can be solved only in the spirit of the Russian world in alliance with Russia. So they won't go anywhere. The format of national states on the former territory of the empire cannot ensure the peaceful development of peoples.

[paul3390]

Erdogan is driving Turkey into a dangerous situation. For he melted not only with all the neighbors, but also stepped on the calluses of many great and regional powers .. But do the Ottomans have friends? Or just enemies of Great Turkey? Will it tear your pants, striding so wide? Does a piece cut off your mouth? For something that - and Great Turkey from Mozha to Mozha is not needed by anyone in the world. Moreover, many will lay down with bones and will not allow the revival of the Ottoman Empire .. But the resources of Turkey, both military and economic, are, by and large, rather small .. So ..

[rotmistr60]

Ankara's designs may backfire, which will not please Turkey.

To be honest, I would very much like it to happen. Erdogan began to create too many problems for Russia and not only for her. Today, the United States and parts of Europe play into the hands of what he is doing in Syria, Libya, today in Karabakh with the hands of Azerbaijan, so they do not put pressure on him, they do not try to reason with him. And we'll see what will happen tomorrow.

[Errr]

Yusuf Karatash:

Why has the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh, which has existed for at least three decades, exacerbated today?

Indeed, why today. Especially considering that this problem is already 44 years old. It all began in the very distant year 1064 with the conquest of the capital of Great Armenia by the city of Ani by the Seljuks ...
Well, the fact that Yusuf Karatash proposes to give the people of Nagorno-Karabakh an opportunity to self-determine sounds extremely wise.

[rocket757]

Turkish press: Erdogan tries to limit Russian influence, but it could turn against himself

So that would be RIGHT! Only who can do this ???

[iouris]

Here they throw at us. Erdogan has a plan and he thinks it. The plan is offensive, and therefore the chances of implementation are high. The US and the EU are playing their game, but they need Erdogan. If the plan is long-term, then Erdogan is needed for a long time and resources will be provided.

[Polymer]

He believes that it is necessary to withdraw the parties to the conflict from the region and let the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh independently determine their status.

So they have long been determined. There are problems with international recognition, so de jure it is still the territory of Azerbaijan. The "international community" now has very big problems with this: to recognize is to encourage new wars over territories; not recognizing is to freeze the conflict and leave problems unresolved. By default, the second option is considered the best, but sometimes the first is also used. Depending on the interests of the main geopolitical players.
So, Azerbaijan and Armenia are to blame for the unleashing of this conflict, but the very "international community" is to blame for its unresolved issue.

[iouris]

The "conflict" was unleashed by Moscow under Gorby. Moscow under Gorby decided to self-destruct. This problem is not solved quickly. Need time. Something has changed?

[Polymer]

Quote: iouris

The "conflict" was unleashed by Moscow under Gorby.

Moscow could have strangled this conflict in the bud, which it did not. But it was not she who untied it.

[iouris]

You contradict yourself.

[Nychego]

Moscow simply cannot but react to this.

Well, yes, as long as there are calls for peace. This is something in the spirit of Chamberlain's policy of "appeasing Germany."

If only they would start pumping up the regions bordering with Azerdaijan with troops and weapons, as Iran does, realizing that just saying words will practically encourage Erdogan to continue the aggression.

[fa2998]

Quote: rotmistr60

began to create Erdogan for Russia and not only for her

Wait, he will soon share the Russian air defense systems with Azerbaijan. I think together with the Soncepeks, the Armenians will definitely thank us.

[fa2998]

Quote: iouris

The "conflict" was unleashed by Moscow under Gorby.

The "land issue" is old there, it was still under the tsars. Under Gorby, Moscow's "grip" simply loosened, and climbed!

[iouris]

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The "land issue" is old there, it was under the tsars.

Under the "kings" was. And under the "general secretaries" such a question could not exist. Before Gorby. Gorby lifted it up to start. And it began. The problem can be solved only by restoring the country on the basis of public ownership of land and means of production. In this case, either the Armenians will be massacred, or they must be resettled in order to save them. Karabakh is either Azerbaijan (Turan, Turkish Empire), or the Russian (conditionally) empire.

[jovanni]

But the author believes that this plan of the Turkish leader may turn against himself.

And what preconditions for these impending problems can the author give for the neosultan? It seems that after VVP saved him during a coup attempt, this character has everything in chocolate ...