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Disrupted attacks and penetrated defenses: the third day of fighting in Karabakh in the video of the parties to the conflict

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Active hostilities continue on the Karabakh front. Both sides of the conflict faced powerful opposition, hampering both the development of the offensive by the Azerbaijani troops and the organization of defense by the Armenian military.


The Armenian side declares strikes against enemy bases and armored vehicles and disrupted enemy attacks. The second video demonstrates the "destruction of the entire unit" of the armored forces of Azerbaijan, which occupied one of the settlements.




According to the Armenian side, successful work is being carried out on the enemy's rear, which makes it possible to "chop off" the supply chains of his troops. In particular, showing frames destruction of a convoy with ammunition.

The Armenian side also continues to suffer losses - in armored vehicles. Air strikes are mainly demonstrated, where Azerbaijani attack drones are constantly patrolling. Air control devices captured the destruction of individual Armenian vehicles.




Judging by the footage, the offensive of the Azerbaijani troops is facing strong opposition from the enemy. One of the videos shows a foiled infantry attack. As stated, when trying to take one of the positions "the enemy fled with losses."



Several materials indicate the successful implementation of a number of attacks. One of the videos depicts Armenian soldiers entrenched in a trench and being fired upon. Since the shooting was at the disposal of the Azerbaijani resource, they, most likely, did not survive. According to representatives of the Azerbaijani side, the enemy's defenses were broken through in several sectors of the front.



The battles are fought around the clock, not abating at night. Intensive support for the offensive is provided by artillery: self-propelled and towed guns, MLRS.





Some observers were confused mortar use by the Armenian military, since with such an operation, the rate of fire is significantly reduced.

The Azerbaijani military is actively using "kamikaze" drones. One of them was directed at the Armenian soldiers, who tried to hide in the dugout during his approach. Part of the UAV can be intercepted: by air defense was destroyed loitering ammunition "Orbiter-1K". The equipment and the order of its placement on board the vehicle indicate that the fire was fired from the Osa-AKM air defense system.



As stated, it bears losses and aviation both sides. Armenian resources show footage of the defeat of the Azerbaijani aircraft. There is no clarity in the situation with the downed Armenian attack aircraft Su-25. Turkey and Azerbaijan categorically deny the involvement of F-16 fighters in this.



MANPADS are actively used, successful shooting at the drone is shown.




However, in general, the Armenian air defense, apparently, copes with the tasks assigned to it. So, in one of the videos, soldiers are forced to fire at an air target from a small weapons.



A spontaneous mobilization unfolded among the Armenians. The footage of traffic jams on the way to Artsakh is shown. Apparently, the country's government is trying to give impetus to this movement. Thus, it is argued that the sons of Armenian ministers go to the front as volunteers. The Georgian authorities closed the border with Armenia, in connection with which the local Armenians blocked the roads leading from Turkey.

The Armenian leadership is trying to enlist foreign policy support. Regular telephone conversations were held with the head of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. Apparently, Iran took a pro-Armenian position. Turkish media announces the transfer of arms to Yerevan. On frames demonstrates the transfer of troops by Tehran to the border with Azerbaijan, which are capable of pulling off part of the forces necessary for the development of an offensive in Karabakh.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 30 September 2020 05: 19
    15
    The consequences of the greatest betrayal of the last century!
    Although, in the last century there were ... and they all led to grave, disastrous consequences !!!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 30 September 2020 05: 27
      16
      The easiest way is to blame past mistakes. Who is to blame if people do not want to live peacefully?
      1. hrych
        hrych 30 September 2020 07: 12
        +8
        Quote: 1976AG
        Who is to blame if people do not want to live peacefully?

        This problem is half a millennium, if not more. The footage, where the Armenian yells, is a pitiful forgery. First, the video is too short. Where is the sequel? Where is the prequel? Second, listen to the background. There is a queue ... Tofig is clearly shooting into the air. The sound of real combat is different.
        1. Gleb Vyshinsky
          Gleb Vyshinsky 30 September 2020 17: 54
          0
          I only read your statements. We can say they are really professional!
          1. hrych
            hrych 30 September 2020 18: 46
            19
            Anyone who has been reading the Military Review for more than one year should be well versed in weapon systems and not only hi Especially at the very beginning, there were a lot of valuable comments from professionals of aviation, navy, etc. Previously, there was a flag and it was clear from which state the commentator was, so there were fewer bots, turning every article into criticism of the Russian Federation drinks
            1. atakan
              atakan 1 October 2020 12: 28
              +1

              Something else was said about the Turkish troops, but hardly much.
              1. hrych
                hrych 1 October 2020 17: 30
                +1
                There is not enough sweetheart on the right wassat This is a factor that turns a squad into a flock. wassat
                1. uralant
                  uralant 1 October 2020 18: 09
                  0
                  Quote: hrych
                  This is the coefficient that the squad turns into a flock

                  Where does the spirit come from the second oldest nation? The older, the stronger the spirit of some machine manure, others goat.
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      2. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2020 07: 15
        19
        Quote: 1976AG
        The easiest way is to blame past mistakes. Who is to blame if people do not want to live peacefully?

        Past, major, mistakes to correct is DIFFICULT!
        Moreover, when SOMEONE DOES NOT WANT and CANNOT correct them!
        Yes, small and proud themselves, they twisted themselves !!! But to remove the blame from those who COULD help in a friendly way, to correct, too, CANNOT !!!
        The fact that the state has lost allies, but just friendly / neutral neighbors is a HUGE GUILT of the current leaders ... and they CONTINUE to destroy everything that should, could, quite steadily, normally remain within the framework necessary for our state !!!
        Here we are marked with hazel for his deeds, but time will pass and the present ones will have to present a very serious account for their destructive, unprofessional activity ... which, in terms of its destructive effect, is commensurate with the betrayal of our state interests!
        1. Uran53
          Uran53 30 September 2020 17: 19
          +6
          Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy. And all the others only use it for their own purposes. What would happen to Georgians, Armenians, Poles, if not for Russia. And what did we get? As soon as the Naglo-Saxons beckoned with carrots, they immediately turned away from us. Even though we actually contained them
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 1 October 2020 08: 26
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          time will pass and the present ones will have to present a very serious bill for their destructive, unprofessional activities ..

          Quite right. But what to expect from them if they hatched from the shell of those traitors. We learned from them. And it was not important to study.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 October 2020 09: 12
            +2
            The top ones (and they are the same everywhere), wanted to live as they wanted!
            And those at the bottom were never asked!
            And now we have .... or rather they have us!
            The sacred question - What to do?
        3. Eujine1975
          Eujine1975 1 October 2020 14: 08
          +3
          For what we Russians hate, so because we constantly climb to make everyone happy, but they do not need this because their concepts of happiness are radically different from ours. Popular wisdom says: "You cannot be lovely." not able to understand it are either stupid or stupid. Remember it more often and you will be happy and there will be less complaints about others.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 October 2020 14: 28
            +2
            Quote: Eujine1975
            Why Russians hate us

            They hate those who were beaten, who were not allowed to roam in their Wishlist .... even those who were beaten, not everything is so direct, straight, hate. Over time and under the pressure of circumstances, it comes to many that they beat very ... accurately and to the point!
            And at the expense of stupid, stupid in their Wishlist to make everyone and everything happy, at exactly there, across the ocean ... and only a stupid, stupid did not understand this yet.
      3. jovanni
        jovanni 30 September 2020 11: 23
        +7
        Quote: 1976AG
        The easiest way is to blame past mistakes. Who is to blame if people do not want to live peacefully?

        The paradox is eternal. Almost all people want to live in peace, and the whole history of mankind is a bloody history of wars ...
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 30 September 2020 07: 48
      +1
      The consequences of the greatest betrayal of the last century!

      1917? Dividing Russia into pieces?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2020 08: 22
        +3
        It was a tragedy, but also the threshold of the emergence of something new, which turned the entire old WORLD, the WORLD OUTLOOK of many, many people around the world.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 30 September 2020 10: 52
          -7
          There is a suggestion to fix the situation.
          Karabakh is declared an independent state without weapons and armed forces, but with border guards and special forces. Somewhere in the middle, a Russian military base is being rebuilt and a regimental tactical group is deployed with a full force of weapons and a squadron of turntables.
          Permits to fly over Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia in case of aggravation of relations (but I do not think that there will be such) is not required, for those who are dissatisfied - to be bombed.
          This, of course, is too straightforward and harsh, but this is a summary of the foundations of Karabakh's international relations with the surrounding states.
          At the same time, Pashinyan resigns and takes all the soros with him, otherwise the base in Gyumri will be closed and Armenia will be given to Erdogan: then 1915 will repeat itself for the last time, but Russia will have nothing to do with it.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 30 September 2020 11: 22
            18
            Quote: hydrox
            There is a suggestion to fix the situation.

            Quote: hydrox
            Somewhere in the middle, a Russian military base is being rebuilt

            To be honest, the proposal is so-so ... Unless you yourself will build this base there, and then serve in it. Somewhere in the middle ...
            Quote: hydrox
            Permits to fly over Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia in case of aggravation of relations (but I do not think that there will be such) is not required, for those who are dissatisfied - to be bombed.

            Like Russia - the gendarme of the Caucasus? Do we need it?
            1. Alkatrass A
              Alkatrass A 30 September 2020 14: 33
              +4
              Like Russia - the gendarme of the Caucasus? We need it? ........ Did we need it in Syria? In Libya? Thousands and miles from our borders ... Brains can sometimes be turned on
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 30 September 2020 16: 02
                16
                Quote: Аlkatrass A
                Did we need it in Syria? In Libya?

                Good question. Do you know the answer?
                Quote: Аlkatrass A
                Brains can sometimes be turned on

                Necessary.
                Quote: Alkatrass A
                All my relatives are fighting there.

                PS Are you an Armenian? Interested person. Enough then to arrange provocations. "we need" "our borders". You need to - collect divisions in the markets and forward, to meet the dawn. Russia already has enough things to do - the LPR needs protection and care.
                1. Sergey_K
                  Sergey_K 1 October 2020 15: 39
                  +3
                  Bravo!!! I agree to everything 100%
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 1 October 2020 22: 12
              +2
              Yes, no one is interested in WHAT you need, but it is well known that it was necessary for the liber-scoundrels who carried out a coup d'etat 30 years ago (one of the color revolutions that shook the whole world) and the most successful one that turned out to be in Russia.
              Therefore, we have been suffering for 30 years with this under-state, Russia.
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 2 October 2020 12: 11
                +1
                Quote: hydrox
                Yes, no one is interested in WHAT you need

                We, the Russians, need first of all to help the LDNR. And, believe me, many people in Russia are interested in this.
                Quote: hydrox
                Therefore, we have been suffering for 30 years with this under-state, Russia.

                Whoa! The words of a real liberal ... Poor ... And the Russian people, the people, at least they don't torment you?
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 30 September 2020 11: 28
            +4
            Quote: hydrox
            There is a suggestion to fix the situation.

            We need a beholder / observer / protector, a PEACEMAKER!
            Nothing new, in principle ... most importantly, the peacemaker Schaub was SPECIFIC!
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 30 September 2020 15: 49
              +5
              I do not mind: a good peacemaker must keep order and extinguish conflicts.
              But when the fighters already have blood in a stream, then without a good club, the peacemaker himself has a chance to get on the snatch.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 30 September 2020 16: 40
                +3
                Experience is ... many. This is a different experience, only.
                At any outcome, everything and everything will hang on us, impartial. So he can spit on later, but do now what SHOULD be done !!!
                Our country is strong, self-sufficient, with due skill and diligence, we will live and others will survive!
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 30 September 2020 22: 19
                  +7
                  That's right, the experience is different, only the reasons are the same - I give only clear examples with proven reasons: Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia.
                  It all starts with the presidential (parliamentary in Armenia) elections, as a result of which a national leader emerges, introducing a multi-vector and at the same time Russophobic policy. In this situation, we missed Ukraine, miraculously kept Belarus in its orbit, now, exactly in the same arena, Armenia is washing itself with blood, but carefully observing Luka, we begin to think - is it worth it to breastfeed for the interests of national feudal lords who are just waiting for the moment for Russia BETRAY - Armenia ALL these two years only knew that it was shoveling in the direction of the West, keeping American biological laboratories and destroying the Russian language, Russian-speaking thinking and Russian-oriented politicians with the help of Soros.
                  The question is - do we need the same result as in Belarus, when national leaders CREATE, and Russia becomes extreme in the eyes of the world ??
                  I am not waiting for an answer, I am waiting for the necessary unifying thought to visit EVERYONE ...
                  1. Dmitriy66
                    Dmitriy66 1 October 2020 14: 46
                    +1
                    In principle, few people are interested in comments from Armenia and Azerbaijan, the main thing is that they would not start playing war games in our markets, otherwise they don’t care what is there.
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 2 October 2020 08: 15
                      0
                      They won't start in the markets: for them, loot is the most precious thing in life - after all, their whole life is a buy and sell ...
          3. hydrox
            hydrox 1 October 2020 06: 00
            +7
            I am not interested in the minuses from the Armenians, my proposal - an explanation of the situation and its amendment in the interests of Russia - is enough to babysit these national republics :: how to crap Russia on the porch - so in full, but as they step on the tail, so "Save, Russia!"
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 1 October 2020 09: 24
              +1
              "peacemaker" is not a stigma! This is the highest responsibility, competence and so on, so on .... yes, good can be with "fists", because situations are different, violent ones have to be calmed!
              Small, proud, independent ... difficult with them! But when our people stopped dealing with them with the proper skill, OTHERS took up them, who have completely different interests and they are not friends to us!
          4. hydrox
            hydrox 1 October 2020 11: 43
            +1
            I do not care how intensely the Armenians minus me: I even admit that they will give blood for their homeland, but at the same time they need to understand that the Azerbaijanis have much more human and combat resources, their supply routes are better and are not blocked by rodent villains, lying under the United States, and the fighting spirit of the Azeris as a military unit is perhaps better than that of the Armenians, especially since the Azerbaijanis are in the position of a DEFENDING people. Along the way, the question arises, what scoundrel recommended to Pashinyan to attack the Azeris exactly when Russia is having trouble with the EU about Belarus - at best, this is meanness, at worst, treason.
            At the same time, EVERYONE should understand that no treaties, charters and provisions of the united nations can force Russia to shed the blood of its servicemen to protect its allies OUTSIDE THE ALLYED territory, i.e. the territory of the Republic of Armenia.
            1. Selevc
              Selevc 1 October 2020 17: 06
              +1
              Quote: hydrox
              Along the way, the question arises, what scoundrel recommended to Pashinyan to attack the Azeris precisely when Russia is having trouble with the EU about Belarus - at best, this is meanness, at worst, treason.

              You have to be extremely naive and short-sighted not to understand that a blow to Armenia is a blow to Putin, the CSTO and Russia !!! Let's at least roughly estimate what will happen if Armenia loses and leaves Karabakh ??? :
              1) first of all, all and first of all the European "sworn friends" of Russia will speak - this is what the peacekeeping process under the auspices of Russia in Karabakh has led to !!! That is, the very fact of Russia's peacekeeping in the post-Soviet space will be shaken ..
              2) secondly, they will say (but in general, and so it will be clear in practice) "This is how Putin's military alliances end !!!"
              3) With a long war and the powerful support of Azerbaijan by Turkey (and later possibly implicitly by other NATO countries and maybe quite openly), the transfer of the war to the territory of Armenia is very likely ... What then ??? How can Russia fight for its CSTO ally without having a common border with him ??? And with extremely difficult channels for the supply of resources to Armenia ???
              4) Everything, and first of all, of course, Turkey will understand that Russia is really leaving the Caucasus - and as everyone knows, a holy place is never empty !!!
              5) If Transcaucasia falls into the sphere of influence of NATO countries, Russia will get such problems in its North Caucasus, compared with which the war in Chechnya will seem like child's play !!!
              The enemy tends to usually wait for the most favorable moment to strike - It was then that they attacked when Putin's Russia was distracted by Belarusian affairs !!!
          5. 72jora72
            72jora72 1 October 2020 12: 46
            0
            There is a suggestion to fix the situation.
            Karabakh is declared an independent state without weapons and armed forces, but with border guards and special forces. Somewhere in the middle, a Russian military base is being rebuilt and a regimental tactical group is deployed with a full force of weapons and a squadron of turntables.
            As soon as they finish with a base and independence in Donbass, we will immediately deal with Karabakh ...
          6. Evgeny Schulepov
            Evgeny Schulepov 2 October 2020 00: 15
            0
            Annex Karabakh to Russia ... Together with Armenia (or not). And there will be peace.
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 September 2020 17: 15
          -2
          Quote: rocket757
          the eve of the emergence of something new, which turned the whole old WORLD

          There is a mountain of objections. Starting from the "overturn" through the civil war, which destroyed and bled the state, continuing with the policy of erasing our national self-awareness (fighting the Church, rewriting history, etc.), many other incompetent (or even treacherous) decisions of the leadership (Khrushchev, Gorbachev - and this if you do not go into details) and ending with the fragility of the constructed model.

          We usually do better the second time. Pyotr Azov and Narva, for example, also took the second time. The main thing is to take into account past mistakes, and this is a problem. People either deny the very possibility of the existence of a just social system, considering what happened to be a completely unsuccessful experiment and not seeing any other possible options besides capitalism. Or, often in a rather aggressive form, they fanatically idealize the USSR, not wanting to see its real problems, forgetting their recent history. Until we realize that both of these extremes are deeply flawed, we will not get a second chance.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 October 2020 09: 27
            +1
            History does not like repetition, but it happens, even many times!
            We make our own history. Our mistakes, victories are also happy.
            There will be an attempt to create a just society again and again. The only question is when? How do we prepare for that ... or not?
            No movement in that direction is visible yet.
      2. Just Sanych
        Just Sanych 30 September 2020 16: 52
        +6
        It’s a strange feeling that Putin’s behavior repeats that of Nicholas II. He has the same confidence that everything is God's will ... And we must wait "by the sea of ​​the weather."
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 30 September 2020 19: 18
          +3
          Quote: Just Sanych
          And we must wait "by the sea for the weather."

          And what should he do?
          1. Just Sanych
            Just Sanych 1 October 2020 20: 04
            0
            It's just that softness in our rapidly changing world can lead to dire consequences both inside the country and outside. And this can be clearly seen - Putin switched exclusively to internal processes, as if not noticing external problems, combining the post of prime minister with Mishustin. Are external problems frightening him, like Nicholas II? Note that I am not an ultraliberal. I just want to see the truth.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 1 October 2020 22: 44
              0
              Quote: Just Sanych
              External problems scare him

              So what exactly is that? Get involved in a war? It is possible, but Azerbaijan is not Georgia and everything will not be over in a few days. Maybe it will come to this, but until the DBs go deep into the territory of Armenia, it is unlikely.
      3. michurinec
        michurinec 30 September 2020 21: 23
        +2
        1917? Dividing Russia into pieces?

        Ignorant, enemy of the people, friend of the bourgeoisie. After 1917, an alliance was built on the friendship of peoples.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 1 October 2020 06: 04
          0
          The union was built on a correct and fair slogan, and not on some servile "friendship" between the innkeeper and the drunkard.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 October 2020 09: 32
            +1
            The state was not built on slogans alone! Everything is much more complicated.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 1 October 2020 09: 31
          +1
          The opposition of the working people against those who appropriate the results of their labor was, is, will always be! Until this "phenomenon" is eliminated as a fact.
    3. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 September 2020 09: 09
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      The consequences of the greatest betrayal of the last century!

      This is a simplification. Bear Marked and company are only a visible part of the historical process.
      As for the video review of the fighting. It is clear that battles are going on and military equipment is being destroyed, the sides are suffering losses. But neither side has yet had any decisive success.
      And he is unlikely to be. They cannot completely crush each other, establish, so to speak, complete control, and there is no point in fighting until the end: a hotbed of unabated partisan war will arise, making normal life impossible in Armenia and Azerbaijan.
      So a compromise is inevitable, and the neighbors and the Russian Federation, first of all, need to pressure, incline towards it. Geopolitically, we do not need domination in Transcaucasia by anyone's henchmen, even if they are Turkish, even if they are "silly", etc.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2020 09: 44
        0
        Quote: Alekseev
        This is a simplification.

        You can argue long and tediously ... in the end we get one, the twentieth century was a period of great betrayals and changes. Consider Russia was an active participant in all events.
    4. Maz
      Maz 30 September 2020 09: 12
      +1
      If it were not for the Israeli weapons bought by the Azeybarjan for 2016 billion dollars under the 5 deal, the Ayzers would have rolled back to Baku long ago ... According to publications, the Azerbaijanis purchased weapons worth 118 billion dollars from Israel. This is comparable to the annual turnover of a large defense concern in Israel. https://www.vesty.co.il/main/article/SyLbbFXNUMXw
      Over the past two years, within the framework of defense cooperation, Azerbaijani transport planes have arrived at the Uvda airfield, where they loaded themselves with equipment. Sometimes these were Il-76 planes of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, and sometimes transport planes of the state airline Silk Way Airlines.
      On September 24, before the start of the current round of confrontation in Nagorno-Karabakh, two transport planes arrived from Baku landed in Israel. Another arrived in the morning of September 30, despite the appeal of the Armenian side, which demanded that Israel stop arming the Azerbaijani army. He also landed at Ovda, arriving for a defense cargo.
      Thus, Israel, at least on a practical level within the framework of the Caucasian confrontation, found itself on the same side with Turkey, which provides all-round support to Azerbaijan.

      The strategic advantages that Israel receives from interaction with Azerbaijan are not detailed, however, foreign sources have reported about intelligence operations conducted by Israel from the territory of Azerbaijan against Iran. The same sources also mentioned military airfields on the territory of Azerbaijan used by the Israeli Air Force.
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 30 September 2020 11: 14
        +4
        At present, Azerbaijan is a major partner of the Russian Federation in the arms market. According to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), in 2006-2016, the share of Russian weapons in the total imports of Azerbaijan’s defense products was about 22%.
        https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5598195
      2. surfdude
        surfdude 30 September 2020 12: 38
        +9
        Dear, this is very good for Israel. The IAI paid so much taxes to the treasury of Israel that you can safely receive unemployment benefits and write here without worrying about going to work tomorrow.
      3. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 30 September 2020 15: 06
        +1
        information appeared about intelligence operations conducted by Israel from the territory of Azerbaijan against Iran. The same sources also mentioned military airfields on the territory of Azerbaijan used by the Israeli Air Force.

        In one book in the genre of alternative, the possibility of an Israeli air force strike on Iran, just from the territory of Azerbaijan, was described. they cannot fly from their territory - the opposition would be too strong.
      4. Danila46
        Danila46 30 September 2020 19: 36
        -1
        and what side to you, who, how and what wins there? do you care? you sit on the embankment of Bat Yam under a palm tree, drink guava juice, eat papaya, and throw beads in the direction of the country that social pays you. squalor ...
      5. Revolver
        Revolver 1 October 2020 04: 27
        +2
        Quote: Maz
        Thus, Israel, at least on a practical level within the framework of the Caucasian confrontation, found itself on the same side with Turkey, which provides all-round support to Azerbaijan.
        The strategic advantages that Israel gains from interaction with Azerbaijan are not detailed

        Where are the Jews to go? Israel's newfound friendship with the Emirates is, of course, a good thing, but oil flows do not turn instantly, but for now Azerbaijan is the main supplier of oil to Israel. And again, even though Turkey is on the side of Azerbaijan, with which Israel is strained, Armenia is supported by Iran, with which Israel, if not officially, then in fact, has a long war.
        In general, the East is a delicate matter, and there is a friend of my friend, as well as the enemy of my enemy, by no means always my friend. And as for Armenia, that Azerbaijan, even if they jump out of their pants, they will not become either the West or Europe. Geography is unforgiving.
    5. Megatron
      Megatron 30 September 2020 13: 22
      +8
      I have a question, let's say Turkey gets into Armenia on the side of Azerbaijan, what are we doing? Puffing out our cheeks to express concern, or hitting the hump with Calibers? Remembering the shot down plane, I think the first thing. Yes, I do not really imagine a war with Turkey now? Black Sea Fleet will be released?
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 1 October 2020 08: 37
        +1
        In an explicit form, no one has been breaking in for a long time. Precisely so as not to get Calibers and other nishtyaks on their territory. And proxies have been and will be. they are at war. Accordingly, ours will "express" what is required. They will probably share intelligence. And no one will go to war. "They won't get off with tomatoes," remember? And there is no one to fight for there.
        1. Megatron
          Megatron 1 October 2020 14: 41
          +2
          To be honest, all these structures - SCO, ODKB, EAEU, TC - paper tigers and pocket monsters, unsuccessful attempts to play NATO and the EU. Let the Kazakhs, Kyrgyz and Tajiks fit in through the ODKB line for Armenia, it will be funny how they will "fight" there.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 1 October 2020 19: 31
            0
            Greece, Albania, etc., will fit in as well as NATO members. for the Turks ..
    6. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 30 September 2020 15: 24
      11
      Quote: rocket757
      The consequences of the greatest betrayal of the last century!

      Here you are not entirely right if you meant the collapse of the USSR. The Karabakh conflict flared up even during his lifetime. But then, in fact, the Russians (the army) got the most - they were hated by the Nazis of both republics, because they prevented them from rapingly cutting each other's throats. And now, at least it's good that neither Armenia, nor Azerbaijan are no longer parts of our country. So at least the lives of our citizens are coastal.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2020 16: 48
        +2
        A stick always has two ends ... sometimes more.
        There is NO simple solution, but you will have to decide, you will not be able to withdraw yourself! To think that it is somewhere out there, far away, is a complete naive, because it is creeping up, it will break through quite HERE !!!
        It is not difficult to predict what will happen then ... it will expand further, but not somewhere there, but already here.
    7. Maz
      Maz 30 September 2020 17: 50
      +1
      According to the data from the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, the size of the Armenian army will go to minus by Friday prayer.
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 30 September 2020 18: 03
        +1
        You here so frankly drown for the Armenians.
        I would like to ask: why?
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 30 September 2020 05: 19
    0
    Fuck-bangs, fire and smoke ...
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 30 September 2020 09: 41
      0
      I am not an aviator, and not at all an aircraft designer sad But maybe someone from the connoisseurs will clarify whose chassis (00:51 video # 11) and the remains of the wing (00:26 video # 11). It seems, after watching, that some kind of light-engine aircraft (like the Yak-18), with percale plating, was filmed after the crash.
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 30 September 2020 09: 53
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Fuck-bangs, fire and smoke ...

      And the gallant soldiers in full height, shells are bursting nearby, and the commander is on the booth with binoculars .. Movies and the Germans.
    3. Maz
      Maz 30 September 2020 18: 25
      -1
      According to Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-09-30/armenia-azerbaijan-war-will-draw-in-russia-turkey-us), NATO intelligence assessments show that the Armenian side is highly likely to emerge victorious from the armed conflict if it comes to a full-scale war, provided that a third party and Turkey in particular do not interfere.

      The publication also notes that Russia supplied weapons and trained both sides of the conflict, while acting as a peacekeeper. not a word about Israel, but its own scoundrels.
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    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 30 September 2020 05: 32
      +1
      I also think so, as soon as they inflict great losses on each other, they will calm down. We do not need either Armenians or Azerbaijanis.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 30 September 2020 09: 00
        +3
        In general, there really was an opinion that in the event of a large-scale war, the sides would simply deplete their stocks of weapons and that would be the end of it.
  4. Master
    Master 30 September 2020 05: 24
    -24 qualifying.
    The Armenians are very "successful" in using personnel from Syria. In particular, the thwarted infantry attack is footage from Syria. Also published earlier material about the alleged front column of Azerbaijan. It turned out to be Armenian))
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      30 September 2020 05: 27
      15
      Quote: Master
      a thwarted infantry attack is footage from Syria

      Proofs?
      1. FenH
        FenH 30 September 2020 08: 34
        +6
        Quote: Eugene-Eugene
        Quote: Master
        a thwarted infantry attack is footage from Syria

        Proofs?

        For one thing, let him provide proofs for the destruction of the S-300, otherwise their brothers have already trumpeted with all the fanfare hi
      2. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 30 September 2020 09: 52
        +1
        Quote: Eugene-Eugene
        Quote: Master
        a thwarted infantry attack is footage from Syria

        Proofs?

        Your linguocultural illiteracy speaks for itself ..
  5. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 30 September 2020 05: 24
    +3
    The big game continues.
  6. Far B
    Far B 30 September 2020 05: 27
    -32 qualifying.
    They need to unite. All three (Karabakh, Armenia and Azerbaijan). And to join the general camp in Russia, as Volfych blurted out yesterday. The capital, as in an old joke, should be made in Magadan. Then all bloodshed will surely end.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 30 September 2020 05: 42
      26
      Why do we need them? There are millions of them in Russia, and their diasporas are engaged in the sale of alcohol and drugs and other matters, let it be better to go to fight for themselves.
  7. urik62
    urik62 30 September 2020 05: 33
    +8
    What horror is doing, sorry for people on both sides, their mothers, wives, children, you need to stop it somehow. And here is a video from the trenches ...
  8. saigon
    saigon 30 September 2020 05: 34
    +3
    Yes, it's not fun, and it is worth considering the love of both sides for, let's say, creating legends out of the blue, so information about losses should be taken with distrust.
    An interesting moment is the overlap of the border with Armenia from the side of Georgia, and the question is with Azerbaijan as a border?
    The blocking of roads in Tbilisi by the Armenians is very interesting, the question is where exactly? In Akhalkalaki or something, it’s far from Tbilisi.
  9. Graz
    Graz 30 September 2020 05: 38
    -4
    the main thing is not to send troops there, it is better to launch several dozen cruise missiles at targets in allah-babakh
  10. 9PA
    9PA 30 September 2020 05: 41
    32
    Well, did the Armenian brothers sit on two chairs (he also refers to Batka)? They rejected our proposals, everyone looked to the west, well, well. Where is your west, where is the UN meeting, Trump's tweet at least? Now pay triple the price for our protection. Good 2 padishahs play
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 30 September 2020 05: 44
    +2
    They cannot agree with peace, and with the use of force, even more so, even if someone wins, it will further aggravate everything. Ambitions: Great Armenia, Great Azerbaijan ...
  12. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 30 September 2020 05: 52
    +6
    Here you can see Azerbaijan uses both Bayraktar drone and kamikaze drone, thereby trying to take out tanks, armored personnel carriers and artillery
  13. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 30 September 2020 06: 07
    +4
    For the military of Karabakh, it can be seen that there is not enough air defense to combat the UAV, also trenches, dugouts, but stationary targets have been studied from satellites for a long time and it is not visible until the coverage of enemy positions from arty and missile defense systems is visible, until I saw a video from the UAV as the military of Karabakh cover
    1. Nychego
      Nychego 30 September 2020 07: 36
      10
      From the course of the database in Libya, they either did not learn at all useful experience on the principle of "Where are we, and where is that Libya", or they simply did not have time to develop and test countermeasures. So, now they pay more expensive only for money, not counting the loss of drugs, territory and other significant, such as the same respect for the enemy.

      Of course, Russia has a chance to develop its own experience of countering the actual domination of the Bayraktar in the sky at the expense of the Armenians. I believe that the American and French communities will give Armenians a lot of money, enough to rent more modern air defense systems with drugs according to the staffing table.
      Only without a freebie for "fulfilling union obligations", as long as the database is not transferred to the territory of Armenia.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 1 October 2020 04: 44
        0
        Quote: Nychego
        I believe that the American and French communities will give Armenians a lot of money, enough to rent more modern air defense systems with drugs according to the staffing table.

        Even taking into account the fact that modern air defense systems cannot be mastered at once, well, let's say they buy a couple of Patriot air defense systems or even Hetz, but how to deliver? Armenia has an open border only with Iran, and no one will be lucky through Iran. And Russia will not sell it to either the American or the French Armenians.
    2. max702
      max702 30 September 2020 10: 59
      +1
      Air defense is very expensive and very difficult .. the sword again wins the shield ..
      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      For the military of Karabakh, it can be seen that there is not enough air defense to combat the UAV, also trenches, dugouts, but stationary targets have been studied from satellites for a long time and it is not visible until the coverage of enemy positions from arty and missile defense systems is visible, until I saw a video from the UAV as the military of Karabakh cover
  14. nobody111body
    nobody111body 30 September 2020 06: 26
    10
    and if so about the Jews, write, throw all the Jewish oligarchs out of Russia and remake all their palaces for kindergartens and orphanages; then what? yeah "inciting nationalism"; but to throw out both Armenians and Azerbaijanis from Russia, write about this on the website ostensibly.ru with might and main - you cannot call a Jew a Jew and an Azeri "Azeri" yes, no problem, and Armenians are also driven out because they sell their "wines" in bazaars - here the main task is to make Russians quarrel with Armenians and Azerbaijanis
    1. gsev
      gsev 30 September 2020 10: 48
      +1
      Quote: nobody
      all Jewish oligarchs from Russia

      So the Jew Zhidovetsky created in the 1980s a design bureau capable of developing drones in modern Russia. If his descendants became oligarchs in modern Russia, then there would be no superiority of the Turks in drones at the present time. And so he, like all Russian engineers, was in relative poverty until death.
    2. borberd
      borberd 30 September 2020 11: 09
      +8
      So you are here and kindle. If you look at all your posts, it turns out that in each you mention Jews. And this is already something from the section of psychiatric medicine. And now he is all such an internationalist, the guardian of the Ayzerbadzhans and Armenians. And like you casually insult, and incite ethnic hatred.
    3. surfdude
      surfdude 30 September 2020 12: 44
      -4
      So write, but not a comment, but an article. Expanded, with evidence that this will help "get up off your knees" in Russia, then there may be some constructive criticism or some kind of discussion, but what you are doing is possible considered only as throwing some brown substance onto the fan.
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 30 September 2020 20: 47
        +3
        Well, yes, and then there was a Jewish counterattack: Jews began to look for Semitic roots among all prominent anti-Semites. In the same way, the LGBT movement works - it automatically records all homophobes as latent gays!
  15. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 September 2020 06: 36
    46
    I go to work in a minibus, with "friends" Armenians. Do you think they are watching news from the front line? No, no and no. They play games on their cell phones. If this is not their war, then it is not ours! hi Sochi.
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 30 September 2020 20: 48
      +3
      In Sochi there is generally no breath from them, probably?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 October 2020 10: 12
        -1
        Last November I lived in Park Sochi for a week, 300 rubles a day, full board. Breakfast and dinner, buffet. Press for private traders is wild! hi
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 30 September 2020 21: 11
      -1
      Maybe it used to be. Now everything is changing. Northerners, Siberians are buying up living space on the vine. The construction is also mostly Russian. Private hotel business under the pressure of hotel giants' prices. At work, the entire office of many thousands will not have ten people. The police are something. So everything is quiet and calm. Markets and markets are of course behind them. Farmers from the Kuban create competition. Mini markets under the presses of retail chains. So it’s normal. As if I’ve witnessed more than once how they themselves run into newly arrived countrymen. Taxi drivers are all under companies, Freemen ceased. 10 years also vme in general settle down and among them, there are normal people. Honestly I don’t see any problems, the social circle is mostly Russian. hi
  16. Master
    Master 30 September 2020 06: 44
    -7
    Quote: Eugene-Eugene
    Quote: Master
    a thwarted infantry attack is footage from Syria

    Proofs?

    The camouflage on the column is not the same. Armenians use this color. In general, if you look closely, you can understand. That this abandoned column. And there 2 armored vehicles clear the road for advancement. The infantry is not clear whose Azerbaijan does not attack without armored vehicles. The frame is familiar. If I find it, I will send it too
  17. north 2
    north 2 30 September 2020 07: 07
    +7
    we probably do not know all the details and specifics that are spelled out in the Collective Security Treaty. It can be assumed that Russia is participating in this agreement as a collective defender
    members of the treaty, if anyone attacks on the territory of the states included in the treaty. And Azerbaijan
    he didn’t attack Armenia, on the splinter Nagorno-Karabakh is de jure the territory of Azerbaijan.
    Azerbaijan also understands this that while it will fight on the territory of NK, Russia is in this conflict
    will not interfere. But as soon as Azerbaijan transfers military actions to the territory of Armenia,
    then the DCS must act. And the question immediately arises, why then only Russia should defend Armenia? And where are the armies of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan ...? Let him show and prove, if Azerbaijan attacks Armenia, that they are capable of fulfilling the DOCB, and then it will be clear whether they will come to the aid of Russia, if anyone attacks Russia. And now, for now, no Russia and others
    there is nothing for members of the DCS in NK. This is the territory of Azerbaijan. But the fact that Armenia is over thirty
    years and did not recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, this shows the whole cunning chasm of Armenia,
    so that this priest sat on two chairs. As well as Lukashenki, by the way.
    Why don’t the Armenian diaspora fattening in Russia go now to the trenches of NK to
    not only to fight for their own fellow countrymen, but to explain this to Nicolas Pashanyan that if
    Armenia wants Russia to save her, it is urgently and always for the whole of Armenia to change from two chairs to one chair in the house of the Russian state ... Crimea..
    1. yehat2
      yehat2 30 September 2020 09: 55
      10
      accusing Armenians of not recognizing an independent territory, which is inhabited mainly by Armenians who want to be with Armenia, is strange
      They should be accused of something else - Azerbaijan offered to exchange its occupied territories for a complete settlement of Karabakh in favor of Armenia, but the Armenians also refused to continue the military conflict, which is now ongoing, therefore, equally on the conscience of Azerbaijan and the Armenian leadership.
      And in my opinion, on the part of the Russian Federation it is very correct that we do not interfere in the conflict in these territories, while remaining on the guard of Armenia itself within its old borders.
  18. nobody111body
    nobody111body 30 September 2020 07: 10
    -5
    the same bloody vokkhanalia should be played in Israel and the United States, and not only in Ukraine and Karabakh, although in Belarus the Jews did not have a number
  19. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 September 2020 07: 12
    +2
    Shot down the Azerbaijani infantry, it's scary. They could put all the otdelleniya. Tanks are motionless, do not live long, is not it clear. All parties to the conflict know how to kill. I do not know what shout they need to stop.
  20. Kapkan
    Kapkan 30 September 2020 07: 14
    +7
    It is unlikely that this can be stopped. If Turkey intervenes, the Armenians will not stop, I think. Yes, and Azerbaijanis sense the weakness of the Armenians.
    And personally I am against Russia intervening. Both Armenians and Georgians and Azerbaijanis have exchanged relations with us to the west. Let the West deal with their problems. Although it is a pity for the Armenians, after all, the Turks did genocide against them. And they won over Ararat. So that...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 September 2020 08: 19
      +2
      The expansion of the "sultan's" influence will turn out sideways for us, THIS IS UNIFORMAL!
      Moreover, he himself will not stop, since he goes to the a-bank, without looking back at anyone!
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      2. Grits
        Grits 30 September 2020 13: 28
        +3
        Quote: rocket757
        The expansion of the "sultan's" influence will turn out sideways for us, THIS IS UNIFORMAL!

        This war will come out sideways to us in any scenario. The fact that Turkey is already 100% entrenched in Azerbaijan is no secret to anyone. And no matter how Russia jumps and turns, trying to become good for Azerbaijan, they will not exchange Turks for Russians. One can forget about Azerbaijanis as friends.
        Now Armenia. If Russia does not stand up for Armenia (and it does not stand up), then there are two options. One - Azerbaijan, together with the Turks, will completely roll up NK. At the same time, the Armenians see the uselessness of Russia and call on the US for help. Those gladly resort to being a protector. And in place of our bases in Gyumri. Because our bases and our military from there will be asked as untrustworthy. If Azerbaijan, along with the Turks, together with NK, also crushes Armenia under itself, then NATO bases in Armenia appear as a matter of course. In any case, we are a loser. And we get three enemy states in Transcaucasia with all the charms that come from this.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 30 September 2020 14: 19
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          This war will come out sideways to us in any scenario.

          No objection, it will be so.
          Quote: Gritsa
          Turkey is already 100% entrenched in Azerbaijan

          No objection, they will hawala completely.
          Quote: Gritsa
          You can forget about Azerbaijanis as friends.

          for a while they will be a weather vane ... but not for long, "the sultan will align them in his own wind.
          But then, the "Sultan" will have access to the Caspian Sea and it will be very stressful for EVERYONE present there !!!
          Quote: Gritsa
          Now Armenia. If Russia does not stand up for Armenia (and she does not stand up),

          A tense moment !!! I DO NOT KNOW???
          Who specifically speaks on this .... Bagdasarov, a couple more three responsible PEOPLE! On the part of the Kremlin offices, there is nothing in any way ... to assume that they are preparing in secret, which is hard to believe what
          In general, a boom to see.
        2. ifdru74
          ifdru74 30 September 2020 16: 39
          +2
          If Russia does not stand up for Armenia (and it does not stand up), then there are two options.

          There is already exactly one option. This is not why Nikol Pashinyan was put in place.
        3. Megatron
          Megatron 30 September 2020 20: 57
          +1
          For the sake of Armenia, the United States will not quarrel with the Sultan, they are already on the brink.
          The Turks are for them the most important NATO ally, and Armenia is a grain of salt.
    2. saigon
      saigon 30 September 2020 09: 33
      +9
      Everything will be victorious reports as always, wait we enter Baku or Yerevan, the enemy runs away losing sneakers and other crap for external consumption, and not close to the truth.
      Everything again rests on a good defense, a small combat stability of the Azerbaijani infantry (and it's not cowardice, talking about cowardice is an insult to soldiers who are fighting here, vivid imagination), and in motivation, there is a big difference between mono-ethical Armenia and a lot of national Azerbaijan, and here lies another fact - Many citizens of Azerbaijan have no interest in Karabakh and have no desire to die for it.
  21. rocket757
    rocket757 30 September 2020 07: 17
    +3
    Military action is underway! There will be many casualties among the civilian population ... and even the "sultan" stretched out his claws and will recoup his past grievances!
    Everything is very serious there. It just won't work ...
  22. Lesorub
    Lesorub 30 September 2020 08: 05
    +8
    the third day of fighting in Karabakh

    At the moment, it can be indicated that the Armenians are extremely lacking in modern air defense systems capable of fighting small-sized targets (the main losses from UAVs) - adjusting fire, disabling armored vehicles is inflicted by them.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 September 2020 08: 23
      10
      Well, everyone has a problem with that. To capture a sedentary-small-sized target, even the most modern complexes screwed up and modified them, about which there were many articles by the way.

      The Armenians have every zoo that, even under ideal conditions, is not sure that it will take such a goal, and if it arrives from the range / beyond the limit, then there is no demand at all. Therefore, in despair, they fire in the style of the dids - we lie on the embankment and shoot from a gun at a visually detected aircraft.

      In general, UAVs are very good at wreaking havoc on communications + knocking out important positions + generally panicking l / s, and if he is not very motivated (Arabs), then they can stand on sneakers. They hold on here. But flying into the bunker of drones, arriving in tanks and self-propelled guns does not add spirit.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 30 September 2020 13: 27
        +4
        Quote: donavi49
        Well, everyone has a problem with that. To capture a sedentary-small-sized target, even the most modern complexes screwed up and modified them, about which there were many articles by the way.

        I am convinced that the importance of ground-based air defense / missile defense in Russia is extremely overestimated. It works as an element of protection against single, accidental threats. It does not work against at least some massive and planned attack, if there is no aviation of its own. Drones are already asking for drone fighters.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 30 September 2020 18: 22
          -1
          A strong enemy will inevitably "dismantle" ground air defense without aviation. And with moderate losses.
    2. Bully
      Bully 30 September 2020 09: 06
      +4
      The problem is that recently there has been a stereotype - the UAV operator is untouchable, is safe and can shit with impunity. However, if an operational-tactical missile arrives at it (also, by the way, from afar), the fashionable habit of using shock drones will quickly pass. Of course, such a move is not possible in every situation, but in this case (the forces of the sides are practically equal) it suggests itself
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 30 September 2020 10: 48
        +4
        This requires a powerful and branched RTR capable of detecting command posts and repeaters with sufficient accuracy. It is unlikely that the Armenians have something like that. And if it were, then the electronic warfare would have to be a machine gun, then there would be no video of the combat work of the UAV at all.
        1. Bully
          Bully 30 September 2020 11: 20
          +1
          Why such difficulties? The coordinates of the command post can be kindly shared by the party that has at its disposal both RTR, electronic warfare and other nishtyaks hi
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 1 October 2020 14: 14
            0
            A bit far away if you work from your own territory. The accuracy will be from the category - "about a little to the left of the north-west".
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 September 2020 11: 01
        12
        The drone operator can sit on another continent.
        Americans fly drones in Afghanistan from the United States.
        Turkish drones can be operated by operators from Istanbul.
        1. Bully
          Bully 30 September 2020 11: 40
          -4
          Those. according to this logic, a UAV operator from Istanbul can bomb the territory of a neighboring state with impunity. I say that this is a stereotype and he is alive only until a gift arrives in response. Not necessarily on the KP, perhaps where the OTRK will reach for offset
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 30 September 2020 12: 38
            10
            Where are you going to throw the "gift"? To Istanbul where experienced
            cameraman (boy gamer 19 years old) drinks coffee near the screen
            and destroys a tank company in the Caucasus with a joystick, switching from drone to drone, from tank to tank?
            We live in the world of the Internet, satellite communications.
            1. Bully
              Bully 30 September 2020 12: 42
              0
              And where Iran threw him when the general was killed - where they could reach hi
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 30 September 2020 18: 24
                +1
                Not far enough. The operators were in the United States.
            2. vadimtt
              vadimtt 1 October 2020 14: 11
              0
              Another continent needs satellite repeaters, does Turkey have them?
              Reconnaissance only, Göktürk series.
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 30 September 2020 13: 38
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The drone operator can sit on another continent.

          Complicating. Everything below and part of the MALE class is controlled by radio. In any case, finding the exact coordinates of the operator is a difficult task, you need aviation with RTR. Ground systems in that theater are useless.
          1. My doctor
            My doctor 30 September 2020 19: 49
            +1
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Everything below and part of the MALE class is controlled by radio. In any case, finding the exact coordinates of the operator is a difficult task, you need aviation with RTR.

            The operator works next to the radio transmitter, is it necessary?
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 30 September 2020 19: 54
              0
              System dependent. The use of an offset and repeater solves this problem.
        3. the finish
          the finish 30 September 2020 21: 11
          +1
          and there is. from the north of Turkey are controlled.
      3. Grits
        Grits 30 September 2020 13: 33
        0
        Quote: Bully
        However, if an operational-tactical missile arrives at it (also, by the way, from afar), the fashionable habit of using shock drones will quickly pass.

        You should also know where this operator is sitting and where to direct the rocket ...
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 30 September 2020 18: 26
          0
          Following your logic, habits should disappear: launch your OTRs, use aircraft, long-range artillery and MLRS smile
          Only this works both ways.
    3. Blue fox
      Blue fox 30 September 2020 10: 44
      +8
      Quote: Lesorub
      At the moment, it can be indicated that the Armenians are extremely lacking in modern air defense systems capable of fighting small-sized targets (the main losses from UAVs) - adjusting fire, disabling armored vehicles is inflicted by them.

      Judging by the video presented by the Azerbaijani side, there are some things that could somewhat improve the situation for the Armenians and which do not require special expenses. In my opinion, very little attention is paid to the engineering preparation of the battle. At a minimum, if the stationary positions are covered with camouflage nets, the effectiveness of enemy strikes will be lower. If in practice, then by covering a tank in a caponier with masknets on an area at least twice the standard cover area, we will almost certainly increase its survival rate when attacking kamikaze drones by a quarter or more, otherwise the attack occurs not only from above, in the least protected projection, so still but almost directly into the tower hatch. The next point is the use of plastic bottles filled with sand as a parapet. God, this technique was used both by the Iraqis and the Americans who spied on it almost during the first war in the Gulf, and they quickly abandoned it due to the inevitable glare of the bottles of the sun, and most importantly, due to the fact that when a bullet or a fragment hits them, the plastic scatters with the formation of acute secondary fragments that affect the eyes and open skin, which are also poorly detected on x-rays and when removed from wounds by doctors. And simple trenches, dugouts, trenches, and gun positions were generally completed with significant deviations from the requirements for engineering training of troops. Although the Armenians can be praised in some ways, at least in the first phase of the conflict, with their mine-explosive barriers and conventional non-explosive barriers, they narrowed the Azerbaijanis' offensive front, forced them to move in columns and deprived of maneuver, but could not fully realize this advantage.
      1. Dimon71
        Dimon71 30 September 2020 15: 41
        0
        As far as I understand, the trenches and dugouts were dug long ago like the first, second, etc. lines of defense. It seems to me that groups of mobiles arrived, shot and left.
    4. hotrod
      hotrod 30 September 2020 12: 27
      +7
      Not even enough ingenuity to pull a camouflage net over caponiers with equipment, to make false cover and false targets. Straightforward somehow ..
    5. Grits
      Grits 30 September 2020 13: 31
      +1
      Quote: Lesorub
      At the moment, it can be indicated that the Armenians are extremely lacking in modern air defense systems capable of fighting small-sized targets (the main losses from UAVs) - adjusting fire, disabling armored vehicles is inflicted by them.

      Didn't the Armenians see how the Turks act in Syria and Libya? And could not imagine that the same is being prepared for them? Immediately after the successful use of "tractors" by the Turks, it was necessary to be puzzled by the acquisition of modern air defense systems from Russia.
  23. Operator
    Operator 30 September 2020 08: 23
    0
    Air defense, as always, none - could not work out the "nails", get the result.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 30 September 2020 18: 27
      -1
      There will be no cheap "nails". Not that technical level yet (generally in the world).
      IMHO, the laser must be effective. But where are they enough?
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 1 October 2020 14: 19
        -1
        Yes, what kind of laser, any canister with low ballistics from 50mm is enough)) And no range finders with programmable detonation are unnecessary, distances are up to one and a half kilometers. "Utyatnitsa" on a new level.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 1 October 2020 22: 52
          -1
          Low? Take an interest in the ballistics of ours or the Swedish 57mm guns. More than 1000 m / s muzzle velocity. THEY can hit much further than 1,5 km, hitting the target with shrapnel.
          And your canister with the declared range .. Where did you get the 1,5 km ?? With low ballistics? What is the spread of buckshot of your "duckling" will be at a distance of 200m?
          The laser is optimal. High ballistics and power now allow smile
  24. the finish
    the finish 30 September 2020 08: 33
    +3
    But in general, it is clear that the attack has drowned and positional battles are underway!
    1. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 30 September 2020 20: 52
      +1
      No, there is remote processing and knocking out of each other's equipment. Due to the complexities of the logistics of replenishment on the part of Armenia, Azerbaijan has much more chances to leave its equipment in the theater of operations, while the enemy has almost zero
  25. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 30 September 2020 08: 52
    +4
    Judging by the abundance of reconnaissance drones and kamikaze drones, anti-aircraft machine guns of rifle caliber have again become extremely relevant in modern wars. If there is a major turmoil, the development of electronics will revolutionize the tactics of warfare, as happened after the appearance of machine guns on the battlefield.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 30 September 2020 10: 49
      +1
      Machine guns? Ineffective. We need RTR + electronic warfare, but it's expensive and no one in their right mind will sell it.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 30 September 2020 10: 58
        +2
        Quote: vadimtt
        We need RTR + electronic warfare, but it's expensive and no one in their right mind will sell

        There is fish for fishlessness and cancer. Better at least anti-aircraft machine guns than to shoot at drones with machine guns.
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 30 September 2020 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: vadimtt
        Need RTR + electronic warfare

        We need a modern army.
        Electronic warfare aviation, engaged in reconnaissance and electronic warfare, it is covered by fighters, the data goes to attack aircraft and ground-based missile and artillery systems, they need to be defended by motorized rifle units, tanks are needed to increase capabilities, they need to be covered by air defense / missile defense from the enemy aviation that has broken through, etc. a huge system of many parts. Something alone cannot be done.
  26. nobody111body
    nobody111body 30 September 2020 08: 54
    -13 qualifying.
    you can immediately see how the Jews advertise their drones because this is their Israeli invention as opposed to the Russian air defense; they will make money on drones and now they will support their pawn Erdogan; while Erdogan and Azerbaijanis were targeted by Jews as a result of the failure of the Turks in Idlib; the Syrian army next to Israel and Netanyahu and a handful of American Jewish diaspora in a frenzy - a lot of money wasted for "Assad left" and he is still there; and even in Belarus a misfire - Alexander Lukashenko nailed the criminals
    1. Danila46
      Danila46 30 September 2020 19: 55
      0
      today you forgot to oblybzat kumach, as you can see from your comments. not very patriotic. sing the anthem of Russia. helps ....
  27. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 September 2020 09: 08
    0
    After Pashinyan’s words in the morning, unless, of course, Azerbaijan doesn’t cross the Armenian border, there will be an honorable surrender of Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan is working back.
  28. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 30 September 2020 09: 44
    0
    We can only wish the Armenians good luck, they are fighting with dignity, but they hardly have anything to count on. The peaceful population of Karabakh must flee, after the defeat they will be cut out to the root.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 30 September 2020 10: 09
      0
      It is not so easy to defeat people who were already born in the NKR, who consider this land their own and who grew up on the cult of the army. It will all drag on. The peaceful people will not reach the massacre. I really hope so.
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 30 September 2020 10: 21
        0
        It will all drag on.
        AA will not survive intense battles.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 30 September 2020 10: 55
          0
          Why not? They can lose all equipment, but being in the mountains, where aviation and artillery are not so effective, they can spoil the life of the attackers for a long time, preventing large-scale operations and inflicting serious losses in manpower.
          1. Michael HORNET
            Michael HORNET 30 September 2020 20: 55
            +2
            After they have no heavy equipment left, they will be killed from drones with complete air supremacy. In fact, it is not so difficult to win in any terrain - if you SET yourself the task of winning
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 30 September 2020 20: 58
              0
              Air supremacy is very weak in the mountains. Ask the participants in the Afghan and Chechen wars.
  29. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 30 September 2020 09: 50
    -4
    The more I watch these videos, the more stable the feeling that they are filming a movie there.
  30. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 30 September 2020 10: 27
    +3
    Sooner or later, this war had to start. Especially after the first, when the Armenians almost seized the whole of Azerbaijan.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 September 2020 12: 49
      +3
      This time, the alignment of forces is different from Azerbaijan, hundreds of kamikaze drones, modern MLRS and OTRK ATGMs and much more, and they are supported by Turkey, and even now Israel is supplying weapons.
  31. Hey
    Hey 30 September 2020 10: 45
    +7
    Judging by the videos, they don't know what disguise is.
  32. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 30 September 2020 12: 39
    0
    Let the hunchback look, this blood on his hands. But he will soon be on the road. Only in a single country can these peoples live without blood.
  33. Antonov Sergey
    Antonov Sergey 30 September 2020 13: 01
    0
    All this greetings from the bald fag Gorbachev, who lives on the Nobel Peace Prize and considers himself innocent of anything. So that all those who died in wars in the next world fought in chorus.
  34. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 30 September 2020 14: 11
    +3
    So far, for some reason, I have not seen traffic jams in the Food City area, the Moskva shopping center and Sadovoda in the direction to the south.
  35. Molon labe
    Molon labe 30 September 2020 14: 19
    +5
    Several materials indicate the successful implementation of a number of attacks. One of the videos depicts Armenian soldiers entrenched in a trench and being fired upon. Since the shooting was at the disposal of the Azerbaijani resource, they, most likely, did not survive. According to representatives of the Azerbaijani side, the enemy's defenses were broken through in several sectors of the front.
    Please remove this video as it is the wildest fake. Firstly, the Armenian soldiers are not talking about it. It is impossible to put it on the SSh-68 helmet (which is carried by the Armenian soldiers) in principle! The sound is superimposed on top, in particular the sound of shooting. The speaker has a zhuuuut Armenian accent, so even children with dyslexia do not speak. Plus wild linguistic mistakes. And the "soldier" allegedly shouts "they left us alone! We were left alone! 11!" Well, explicit propaganda content. This is the second such fake, there was one more, where an allegedly civilian again on th pro (What the hell ?!) runs through the forest saying "they all blow up runeeeeeeeee! 11!". Again, with a terrifying accent and misspellings. All the Armenians laugh at these squalors, send each other like look at what fuck they are, and you seriously post, I think this is not the level of Military Review.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 30 September 2020 18: 21
      +3
      MolonLabe "Please remove this video as this is the wildest fake."
      Not knowing the Armenian language, it became clear to me that it was a fake. After watching this video you watch another one where Armenians speak and it becomes clear that not everything is in order with the pronunciation. Reconsider, listen attentively and it will be noticeable))) However, we will not see one such video yet .... informwar, however.)))
      1. uranium
        uranium 30 September 2020 20: 16
        -3
        I don’t know Armenian, but there was information that Syrian and Lebanese Armenians arrived in Karabakh. Therefore, differences in dialects are not excluded.
        Moreover, there are examples from the first Karabakh war.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 30 September 2020 22: 37
          0
          uran "Therefore, differences in dialects are not excluded."
          1. How many of those Armenians live there?)))) They still have somewhere to take.))). I watched a lot of vidos, but so that the Armenians ran around with cameras on helmets.))) I have not seen. And the helmets there are mostly ancient.
          1. uranium
            uranium 1 October 2020 02: 21
            -4
            They live enough and they actively participate in the database, though not always successfully, as we can see))
            Well, the argument that the helmets are ancient is the same thing that it is not necessary to declare gopro for arming Armenia laughing
            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 1 October 2020 12: 17
              0
              uran "gopro is not in service with Armenia"
              I have not seen a single video of gopro from Armenians on the Internet. If you saw it, do not hesitate.))) There is no problem to prove it by deed.))) What I saw was filmed from afar. Or corpses lying at close range were removed. All. And I have not seen such films like in that video anymore.))) Do you have any other evidence of the presence of Syrian Armenians in Karabakh? Be so kind as to accept any proofs as they say.)))
              1. uranium
                uranium 1 October 2020 22: 44
                -4
                The precedent was Google to help you. Well, or Monte Melkonyan, Arab is in the first war.
                As for the present, there will be tagnu proofs.
                1. Nagaibak
                  Nagaibak 5 October 2020 15: 32
                  0
                  uran "Or Monte Melkonyan, Arabo is in the first war."
                  Yes, yes there were 2 and a half people.)))
  36. Mark68
    Mark68 30 September 2020 15: 06
    +4
    Where are the elementary masks? The feeling that they are fighting in the NKR the old fashioned way, no camouflage from the Air Force, an absolute lack of anti-drones and, as a fact, the result of offensive losses is evident. It seems that the Kalashnikov concern will buy REX like hot cakes ...
  37. Dimon71
    Dimon71 30 September 2020 15: 29
    0
    At this moment, the Az Air Force is launching missile bombings on the city of Martaker. There are killed and wounded among the civilian population. just beat around the city. Donbass does not remind?
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 30 September 2020 20: 17
      +1
      No, not reminiscent.
  38. iouris
    iouris 30 September 2020 16: 22
    +2
    I would put reasonable restrictions on the publication of materials about this war.
    I appeal to the commentators: keep your political neutrality, do not give a reason for the manifestation of "national feelings", and even more so, do not offend anyone.
    Ordinary people are dying in this imperialist war.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 30 September 2020 20: 16
      -1
      This is not our war.
      All.
  39. ifdru74
    ifdru74 30 September 2020 16: 59
    +3
    From my couch, it seems that the best option is to abstain. Firstly, it is not clear who started. It may well be that the socio-political situation in Armenia demanded rallying before our enemy. Although, in my opinion, it is not profitable for the Armenians to start right now. The mobilization is not over. The army is not ready for the war that Azerbaijan is ready to wage. The Turks can give a lift to some Syrians for disposal, and they can provide non-acidic aviation support. Because of the terrible love of the peoples of the Caucasus for each other, there is, to put it politically correct, a lack of verifiable information.
    In this situation, you can prepare and wait. The grouping of Russian troops at the base in Gyumri must strengthen the perimeter and severely suppress attempts to take possession of property or penetrate the base. After the reaction to the murder in Gyumri, the Russian troops owe nothing to anyone.
  40. erased
    erased 30 September 2020 17: 20
    +7
    Do not retreat, do not give up! Fight until complete victory! Until the very end! There are plenty of mob resources for both sides in the Russian Federation - huge diasporas, everyone is under arms and to the front, to defend their lands!
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 30 September 2020 20: 16
      -1
      You are evil, unkind ...
      And where is your tolerance? request
      1. erased
        erased 1 October 2020 00: 05
        +1
        That's where rhyme sits! And nowhere else.
  41. Gleb Vyshinsky
    Gleb Vyshinsky 30 September 2020 18: 11
    0
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: 1976AG
    Who is to blame if people do not want to live peacefully?

    This problem is half a millennium, if not more. The footage, where the Armenian yells, is a pitiful forgery. First, the video is too short. Where is the sequel? Where is the prequel? Second, listen to the background. There is a queue ... Tofig is clearly shooting into the air. The sound of real combat is different.



    I only read your statements. We can say they are really professional!
  42. karpusha
    karpusha 30 September 2020 18: 14
    0
    Quote: MolonLabe
    Several materials indicate the successful implementation of a number of attacks. One of the videos depicts Armenian soldiers entrenched in a trench and being fired upon. Since the shooting was at the disposal of the Azerbaijani resource, they, most likely, did not survive. According to representatives of the Azerbaijani side, the enemy's defenses were broken through in several sectors of the front.
    Please remove this video as it is the wildest fake. Firstly, the Armenian soldiers are not talking about it. It is impossible to put it on the SSh-68 helmet (which is carried by the Armenian soldiers) in principle! The sound is superimposed on top, in particular the sound of shooting. The speaker has a zhuuuut Armenian accent, so even children with dyslexia do not speak. Plus wild linguistic mistakes. And the "soldier" allegedly shouts "they left us alone! We were left alone! 11!" Well, explicit propaganda content. This is the second such fake, there was one more, where an allegedly civilian again on th pro (What the hell ?!) runs through the forest saying "they all blow up runeeeeeeeee! 11!". Again, with a terrifying accent and misspellings. All the Armenians laugh at these squalors, send each other like look at what fuck they are, and you seriously post, I think this is not the level of Military Review.

    Well, most likely a fake, that's just an argument like "it's impossible to put it in principle!" brings a smile. The GoPro can be mounted on any helmet, depending on which mount you use.
  43. fiberboard
    fiberboard 30 September 2020 18: 16
    0
    All these shots make me think that our glorious generals again missed something important. Unmanned aerial vehicles only hammer the equipment and personnel. Especially the Osa tanks and anti-aircraft complexes. It is interesting why a smoke screen, false targets, electronic warfare means are not used to combat drones. I read, at one time, together with Strela, the Kolos complex was developed, it seems cheaper. The author suggested using it and ZSU-57 against drones. Indeed, heavy pictures from the battlefield.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 30 September 2020 20: 15
      0
      All these shots make me think that our glorious generals again missed something important. Drones only hammer the equipment and personnel


      There seem to be no ours ... belay
  44. Victorm
    Victorm 30 September 2020 20: 11
    +2
    Equipment destroyed at 17.30 Baku time on September 30.09.2020, XNUMX.
    - 2 units SAM "OSA-AKM";
    - 1 unit MLRS "Hurricane",
    - 4 units MLRS "Grad";
    - 4 units howitzer-gun D-20;
    - 16 units MBT T-72;
    - 1 unit BMP-2;
    - 2 units trucks with l / s.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 30 September 2020 21: 35
      -1
      The day was good ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 October 2020 00: 59
      0
      And at least 15 trucks.
  45. vavilon
    vavilon 30 September 2020 20: 17
    +2
    In the eighties he served as all representatives of the peoples of the union and in a nightmare he could not even have thought that this would happen
    but these are all the fruits of liberal politics.
  46. Cossack 471
    Cossack 471 30 September 2020 21: 43
    +1
    There seems to be no hint of jamming drone control signals. Armenians are absolutely not ready for such a war to try to shoot down these same drones. And immediately the next question: what about us?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 October 2020 01: 01
      -1
      And Russia has a unified air defense system and has many electronic warfare
  47. Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 01: 01
    -2
    Quote: Cossack 471
    There seems to be no hint of jamming drone control signals. Armenians are absolutely not ready for such a war to try to shoot down these same drones. And immediately the next question: what about us?
    All this was and is. It's just that in the competition between the shield and the sword, not everything is clear.
    If you look closely at one of the videos of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, there is footage of the destruction of such a system.
    Control systems of modern UAVs are capable of withstanding electronic warfare in the event of jamming of control signals, and in the event of jamming of GPS / Glonass signals. They can either return or independently destroy the target.
    The Armed Forces of Armenia have electronic warfare systems, both Russian and their own production. If I'm not mistaken, if it was not discussed here, that is, you can search the network, I rarely read this resource, I registered just after learning about the blocking of the Internet in Azerbaijan.
    Plus, judging by yesterday's footage from Iran, Russia has additionally supplied one or two sets of electronic warfare to Armenia.
  48. sektant777
    sektant777 1 October 2020 03: 45
    0
    Quote: North 2
    we probably do not know all the details and specifics that are spelled out in the Collective Security Treaty. It can be assumed that Russia is participating in this agreement as a collective defender
    members of the treaty, if anyone attacks on the territory of the states included in the treaty. And Azerbaijan
    he didn’t attack Armenia, on the splinter Nagorno-Karabakh is de jure the territory of Azerbaijan.
    Azerbaijan also understands this that while it will fight on the territory of NK, Russia is in this conflict
    will not interfere. But as soon as Azerbaijan transfers military actions to the territory of Armenia,
    then the DCS must act. And the question immediately arises, why then only Russia should defend Armenia? And where are the armies of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan ...? Let him show and prove, if Azerbaijan attacks Armenia, that they are capable of fulfilling the DOCB, and then it will be clear whether they will come to the aid of Russia, if anyone attacks Russia. And now, for now, no Russia and others
    there is nothing for members of the DCS in NK. This is the territory of Azerbaijan. But the fact that Armenia is over thirty
    years and did not recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, this shows the whole cunning chasm of Armenia,
    so that this priest sat on two chairs. As well as Lukashenki, by the way.
    Why don’t the Armenian diaspora fattening in Russia go now to the trenches of NK to
    not only to fight for their own fellow countrymen, but to explain this to Nicolas Pashanyan that if
    Armenia wants Russia to save her, it is urgently and always for the whole of Armenia to change from two chairs to one chair in the house of the Russian state ... Crimea..

    Has Russia officially recognized the DPR and LPR?
    This is what the ostrich politics leads to, you can now see in NK. Putin is playing all the mnogohovochki. What is the CSTO for?
    Well, the Turkish "partner" is already openly stirring up at our borders. Will they wipe themselves out in the Kremlin again?
  49. Awaz
    Awaz 1 October 2020 06: 02
    -1
    I just thought from my couch, it seems that this war will end with the withdrawal of Russian troops from Armenia. In any case, the Armenians, if especially the situation develops very badly, will begin to ask questions about why foreign troops are on their territory if they do not provide security.
  50. Victorm
    Victorm 1 October 2020 08: 53
    -1
    Quote: AwaZ
    I just thought from my couch, it seems that this war will end with the withdrawal of Russian troops from Armenia. In any case, the Armenians, if especially the situation develops very badly, will begin to ask questions about why foreign troops are on their territory if they do not provide security.
    Russia lost Armenia back when Pashinyan won. Therefore, no need to be mistaken, the days of the Russian base have been numbered for anyone, the defeat and loss of the Armenian army in Azerbaijan will only slightly accelerate the ALREADY LAUNCHED process.

    Let's get some garlic - Azerbaijan has just used the situation, it has little time and has to hurry. After the departure of Russia and the arrival of new masters in Armenia, Azerbaijan will have no chance at all to liberate its occupied territories and achieve the withdrawal of the Armenian occupation forces.
    Take it as you want, but mark my words, and for this you don't need to be a super expert either, I repeat - Armenia will join NATO, if not the first Georgia that has been sitting with an outstretched hand on the doorsteps of the Brussels headquarters for years, then almost simultaneously. But Azerbaijan, despite the fact that, like Armenia, a member of the CSTO, participates in various NATO programs, I think it is unlikely that it "will be awarded such an honor."

    Once again, I repeat the above, Azerbaijan was both frankly provoked, and NESPROSTA was provoked, it is clear that we are also being used, but also decided to answer, because everyone understands perfectly well that the time reserve literally melts before our eyes, as soon as instead of the base of the Russian Armed Forces and Russian FSB border troops in Armenia will have new owners, there will be NO chances. Now there is a chance, because in Russia everyone sees the processes and understands, because Russia, in spite of everything, is not the United States, Azerbaijanis are an indigenous people in Russia, we have a huge diaspora in Russia, which cannot be said about the United States, where the Armenian lobby is second after the Jewish in terms of opportunities and degree of influence.
    You need to understand that even Belarus is ALREADY lost, Lukashenko is in Belarus, by the way, an ally of Azerbaijan, our presidents even have excellent personal relations, this is with all due respect, but Yanukovych is the beginning of the end, Ukraine is lost, Georgia is lost, Armenia was lost, the loss is just simple not decorated and not decorated with the withdrawal of Russian troops, the Baltics were torn off even during the collapse of the USSR, Finland was torn off during the collapse of the Russian Empire. Don't look at the screen of a zombie, just take a contour map from your child or grandson and shade all mentioned ones - your eyes will open ...
    Open your eyes, remove the bananas from your ears, REGARDLESS of whether the occupying Armenian army will be driven out of Azerbaijan, or will be able to cling to some area following the results of hostilities, or even vice versa will return all positions, return to the borders until 2016 - Russia has already been designated guilty ...
    Judge for yourself, Azerbaijanis living in Iran are constantly uploading videos with equipment that Russia is bringing in columns to Armenia day and night, BUT listen to Armenia, they are unhappy, anti-Russian sentiments are growing and are in every possible way warmed up. Many write about the largest US embassy in the Transcaucasus in Yerevan, but many are modestly silent about the fact that there is also the largest base of both the CIA and other US special services, the French special services have long and perfectly settled there ...

    Think for yourself, I like to walk in Armenian dummies and talk about some militants in Azerbaijan, although just yesterday the Lebanese militant of the Armenian ASALA was burned on social networks, you can repeat how it’s established that it’s not Azerbaijan that is fighting, but Turkey, otherwise there is no way to justify the defeat of whole units the "great and invincible" Armenian military, in which the Armenians themselves believed. If you want to THINK as the saying goes, read the materials themselves in the net, moreover, from official Russian sources, credible authors, and not "Russian experts Akopovs, Pogosovs, Petrosovs." Read on, look, now the moment is coming closer and closer when it is very dangerous for all of us, residents of the post-Russian / post-Soviet space to believe the zombie box and all kinds of "experts".