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Russian analogue of the Great Wall of China: protection against raids

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When it comes to the most extended walls, representing defensive structures, they always talk about the Great Wall of China. She can be seen from space. It consists of separate fragments, each of which can be hundreds of kilometers long.


However, not everyone knows that at one time in Russia there was its own version of a long wall that saved the state from the nomadic raids of the Nogai and Krymchaks. This is the so-called Great Notch Line, the total length of which was enormous at the end of construction - about a thousand kilometers. Today, there are fragments of the Great Zasechnaya Line, to which the fortress walls of Russian cities belonged. It is quite possible to consider it as the Russian analogue of the Great Wall of China.

The large notch line is not only walls and fortresses, it is also a whole complex of advanced engineering structures for those times, which impeded the advance of the enemy on foot and on horseback.

The main section of the BZCh stretched from the modern Bryansk region to Ryazan (at that time - Pereyaslavl-Ryazan). The autocrat under whom this structure appeared in Russia was Tsar John IV the Terrible. The construction was completed in 1566.

On the channel "Zvezda" a film was released, which is dedicated to the defensive lines of the state, called the Great Serif Line:

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  1. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 29 September 2020 15: 28
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    to Ryazan (at that time - Pereyaslavl-Ryazan)
    And then what did Batu burn - Ryazan or Pereyaslavl-Ryazan?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 29 September 2020 15: 30
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      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      And then what did Batu burn - Ryazan or Pereyaslavl-Ryazan?

      Judging by the interpretations of some modern historians, he did not burn anything at all, but was a great friend of Russia, and the damned nemchura slandered him)))
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 29 September 2020 15: 33
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        Quote: Volodin
        Judging by the interpretations of some modern historians, he did not burn anything at all

        Here the word of historians should be put in quotation marks.
        1. credo
          credo 29 September 2020 16: 07
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          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: Volodin
          Judging by the interpretations of some modern historians, he did not burn anything at all

          Here the word of historians should be put in quotation marks.

          It's not even about the so-called. domestic "historians", exercising in the issuance of new irrefutable "facts" and views on national history, and in the general policy of the state on the interpretation of the history of Russia from ancient times to the present.
          Without going into detail in the general material of the film, I would just like to draw attention to two points in the article itself, which precedes the film, namely:
          1) When the author designates the Russian serif line (RZCH) as an analogue of the so-called. By the "Great Wall of China" (VKT), he thereby makes it clear that the first is a copy of the second and that means the Chinese are the pioneers in this matter, while there is no material evidence that the VKT was built by the Chinese and, moreover, earlier than the RZCH. The question is why to compare with what you do not know.
          2) The second point is the prefix to the name of the Russian Tsar Ivan IV of the Western cliché "Terrible". Given that this attachment was designed in Europe to demonize the Russian tsar, domestic historical "parrots" and simply "experts" should be reminded that Ivan IV was in reality a great and wise ruler who expanded the borders of Russia and cared about the welfare of his subjects. Our politicians and historians should have forever - if we really want to give definitions - to call Ivan IV smart and pious, than to repeat after the hated Westerners their cliché about the Russian tsar.
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 29 September 2020 16: 15
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            Quote: credo
            Ivan IV was in reality a great and wise ruler who expanded the borders of Russia and cared about the welfare of his subjects

            Did he care like that? Couldn't eat straight from the problems of simple smerds? The ruler was great, but no need to talk about "caring for subjects"
            1. credo
              credo 29 September 2020 17: 31
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              Quote: KVU-NSVD
              Quote: credo
              Ivan IV was in reality a great and wise ruler who expanded the borders of Russia and cared about the welfare of his subjects

              Did he care like that? Couldn't eat straight from the problems of simple smerds? The ruler was great, but no need to talk about "caring for subjects"

              Before flirting, turn on your brains and ask yourself a question - Ivan IV built a notch line for his personal protection or his state, i.e. their subjects? It seems all the same that for the protection of the state and subjects, tk. it is his subjects that are his protection, taxes and prosperity.
              So your sarcasm is not appropriate here, you just confused the epochs, imagining that Ivan IV had to provide his people with those benefits and advantages that were endowed, for example, by the citizens of the USSR.
          2. Egoza
            Egoza 29 September 2020 16: 51
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            Quote: credo
            prefix to the name of the Russian Tsar Ivan IV of the Western cliché "Terrible". Considering that this console was designed in Europe

            Excuse me, but the rest of the princes' nicknames? for example, Vasily Dark, Dmitry Mikhailovich Groznye Ochi, Vasily Davidovich Terrible eyes (Grozny) ... you shouldn't blame everything on the Westerners. They did not have time to spoil everything. The main thing for them was to prove that the Romanovs rightfully occupied the throne.
            1. credo
              credo 29 September 2020 18: 23
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              Quote: Egoza
              Quote: credo
              prefix to the name of the Russian Tsar Ivan IV of the Western cliché "Terrible". Considering that this console was designed in Europe

              Excuse me, but the rest of the princes' nicknames? for example, Vasily Dark, Dmitry Mikhailovich Groznye Ochi, Vasily Davidovich Terrible eyes (Grozny) ... you shouldn't blame everything on the Westerners. They did not have time to spoil everything. The main thing for them was to prove that the Romanovs rightfully occupied the throne.

              Vasily II, nicknamed the Dark, received this very nickname because he was blinded by his opponents, and of the princes you listed, he was the only one who bore the title of Sovereign of All Russia. And Dmitry Mikhailovich and Vasily Davydovich were appanage princes, of whom there were many in Russia.
              But this is not the point, but the fact that Western politicians and historians, calling Ivan IV the Terrible, put a very definite meaning in this, presenting him as an insidious and bloodthirsty despot, who both his people spread rot and killed his son and was a real despot.
              They understand this for what, but why our learned men and illiterate ignoramuses are repeating this to me in no way can I understand.
              1. Egoza
                Egoza 30 September 2020 06: 25
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                Quote: credo
                Western politicians and historians, calling Ivan IV the Terrible, put a very specific meaning in this,

                so everyone puts the meaning they want. Our historians call it Grozny, because for his enemies he was Terrible, and his gaze acted the same as that of his ancestor - girls could faint.
          3. Insurgent
            Insurgent 29 September 2020 17: 05
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            Quote: credo
            The second point is the prefix to the name of the Russian Tsar Ivan IV of the Western cliché "Terrible".

            To my surprise I learned from a Serb with whom they served together that in Serbia our Ivan IV is called the Great, for "terrible"in Serbian, it is dirty.
      2. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 29 September 2020 15: 38
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        Quote: Volodin
        according to the interpretations of some modern historians, he did not burn anything at all, but was a great friend of Russia, and he was slandered by a cursed nemchura))

        And there was no yoke, and the Teutons carried light and enlightenment, and on the Ugra the Khan simply followed the humanism of the Renaissance ... laughing
    2. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na 29 September 2020 16: 08
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      Batu burned Old Ryazan, the current Ryazan until 1778 was called Pereyaslavl-Ryazan.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 29 September 2020 16: 10
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        Quote: Ru_Na
        Batu burned Old Ryazan, the current Ryazan until 1778 was called Pereyaslavl-Ryazan.

        So Batu still burned Ryazan, and not some Pereyaslavl?
        1. Ru_Na
          Ru_Na 29 September 2020 16: 14
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          Yes, Batu burned Ryazan in the winter of 1237.
    3. novel66
      novel66 29 September 2020 18: 57
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      Batu still does not know where he was, the Mongol-Tatars cause questions
  2. fn34440
    fn34440 29 September 2020 16: 02
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    S-300, s-400, S-5oo are the best analogs of the "Chinese wall" for modern Russia.
    1. Mytholog
      Mytholog 29 September 2020 17: 00
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      "Poplar" and "Sarmat" primarily stand as a wall against striped nomads. Well, the missile defense system of the Moscow region, of course.
      And air defense is like city Cossacks, so that every little thing pot-bellied does not play naughty;)
  3. Galleon
    Galleon 29 September 2020 16: 04
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    Good that you remembered the Serif line. Its scale was indeed enormous: millions of fallen trees with pointed branches sticking out towards the enemy. The width of the notch strip was sometimes such that it was a really insurmountable obstacle for the nomadic cavalry.
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 29 September 2020 16: 18
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      By the way, part of the serif line has been preserved. In the Venevsky District, the Kaluga-Ryazan highway follows the old line. In the area of ​​the village. The road is dumped with kinks, someone thought that there were about 50 turns from Venev to Tula.
      1. fn34440
        fn34440 29 September 2020 16: 28
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        Around Monino, such a chaotic felling of trees, starting from the exit of the Gorkovskoye Highway, sho your notch line is not suitable for a spot. No one clears, no one cares. 10 years accumulates in a windbreak after natural disasters.
        1. ZAV69
          ZAV69 29 September 2020 16: 33
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          For you, this is the fruit of the carelessness of the local authorities, and ours is a real defensive structure. There is a difference ? I think there is
        2. Alexander I
          Alexander I 23 November 2020 16: 04
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          Raking up windbreaks is not always economically profitable (the price of a forest does not offset the costs), therefore, elementary fires were used, but now ecological quirks leave only one way out to rot.
  4. dzvero
    dzvero 29 September 2020 16: 51
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    I wonder who erected such walls on a similar scale (walls, not border structures). Offhand I recall the Chinese wall, notch lines in Russia, the Romans also noted themselves in this field (ramparts in Scotland and North Africa); in recent history - Trump smile