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"Awaiting the completion of state tests": ACS "Bogdana" was created in a single copy

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"Awaiting the completion of state tests": ACS "Bogdana" was created in a single copy

The Ukrainian 155-mm wheeled self-propelled howitzer "Bogdana" is awaiting the end of state tests, following which a decision will be made to adopt the ACS into service. Writes about this Defense Express.


At present, the only copy of the ACS 2S22 "Bogdana" is in the workshop of the Kramatorsk Heavy Machine Tool Plant (part of the GS "League of Defense Enterprises of Ukraine"), where it is awaiting the end of state tests.

According to the People's Deputy of Ukraine Roman Kostenko, "Bogdana" has already been tested by firing inert shells, the howitzer has not yet been taken out for combat tests.

If "Bogdana" passes state tests, then it has good prospects both for being put into service in Ukraine and for export to other countries.

- said Kostenko.


The firing of the Bogdan self-propelled guns was reported at the end of last year. The howitzer was tested at a training ground in the Dnepropetrovsk region. At the "zero" stage of testing self-propelled weapon checked by hydroshot (hydro-firing), then the so-called inert ammunition was used. It did not come to live shooting, although this was previously announced. The reason is not named.

Then, in Ukraine, they immediately decided to focus on the fact that the Bogdan self-propelled gun mount "meets NATO standards!" This refers to the caliber of the ACS.

It is alleged that the tests confirmed the ability of the ACS to fire at a rate of up to 6 rounds per minute. According to early statements from the developers, the maximum range when firing an active-rocket projectile is 60 km.

We will remind that for the first time the only prototype of the howitzer was shown on July 14, 2018, and on August 24 of the same year, "Bogdan" was shown at the military parade in honor of the Independence Day of Ukraine.
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  1. Piramidon
    Piramidon 28 September 2020 14: 03
    +3
    I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after? Buses, trucks, now also self-propelled guns.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 September 2020 14: 08
      +1
      It did not come to live shooting, although this was previously announced. The reason is not named.
      What if the barrel breaks!
      1. Sergey_G_M
        Sergey_G_M 28 September 2020 14: 16
        11
        What kind of live fire? What kind of adoption?
        Where are you going to shoot, and even 60 km?
        To adopt a weapon, you need to draw up firing tables for a start, which means you need to burn a couple of trains with shells, does the developer have money for such a number of NATO shells that are not at all cheap?
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 28 September 2020 15: 09
          0
          Quote: Sergey_G_M
          Where are you going to shoot, and even 60 km?

          I would like to ask the artillerymen - on what size target is it possible to AIM, and not accidentally, hit from a distance of 60 kilometers? Or is such a range so, to scare the sparrows "over the squares"?
        2. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 28 September 2020 16: 05
          +5
          Quote: Sergey_G_M
          To accept a weapon into service, you need to draw up firing tables to begin with, which means you need to burn a couple of trains with shells,

          Moreover, in the video, they claim that they have mastered the release of barrels and they can withstand 1200 shots, unlike Soviet ones, which can only withstand 600.
          Wow, how technologies in Ukraine jumped, from the very first of their products they surpassed the forged barrels of Plant No. 9, which has been dealing with them since 1942, in terms of wear resistance.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 28 September 2020 16: 11
            +1
            By the way, with a single shot, where the barrel dangles for a very long time after that, there is a video, but where to look at charging the gun itself?
      2. novel66
        novel66 28 September 2020 14: 23
        +2
        what does "suddenly" mean?
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 28 September 2020 16: 30
        -1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        It did not come to live shooting, although this was previously announced. The reason is not named.
        What if the barrel breaks!

        Dear Vladimir. A big request is not to post your comments that are not related to me, in the form of responses, supposedly to mine. (About live fire, I did not write a word) Otherwise, in this regard, I have a blockage with answers. hi
        Be a little more careful. hi
    2. Gato
      Gato 28 September 2020 14: 22
      -1
      in honor of which Bogdan do they name their technique?

      request
      Maybe in honor of the first steering office of the president under Zelensky
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 28 September 2020 16: 25
        -2
        Quote: Gato
        in honor of which Bogdan do they name their technique?

        request
        Maybe in honor of the first steering office of the president under Zelensky

        I have vague doubts. Trucks and buses were "Bogdan", and ACS became "Bogdana". Has it changed its sexual orientation, or what, in the light of the requirements of the "global tolerant demand"?
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    4. Hypertension
      Hypertension 28 September 2020 14: 34
      +1
      Quote: Piramidon
      I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after? Buses, trucks, now also self-propelled guns.

      In honor of the fact that if something goes wrong, then there is no responsibility. God gave, God took ...
    5. credo
      credo 28 September 2020 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: Piramidon
      I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after? Buses, trucks, now also self-propelled guns.

      Believe me, this is not the most important thing.
      The fact that in Ukraine something is constantly being “invented” in the field of weapons, suggests that the solution of issues in the Donbass and Crimea is seen by the Ukrainian leaders and the military only through military action and not otherwise. This is certainly a bad trend.
      Another thing is that the United States and the EU will take all measures to ensure that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex as soon as possible bent, especially in the manufacture of the most expensive products, leaving only small things and the production of ammunition afloat.
      Even if the politicians and the military of Ukraine understand this, their "partners" will not allow them to reanimate their military-industrial complex, but we must always bear in mind that even a fool with a club poses a certain danger.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 28 September 2020 17: 31
        -1
        Quote: credo
        Quote: Piramidon
        I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after? Buses, trucks, now also self-propelled guns.

        Believe me, this is not the most important thing.

        I believe. And I agree. But did I say that this is "the most important thing"?
    6. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 28 September 2020 14: 58
      +1
      Quote: Piramidon
      I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after?

      But somehow they are at odds with Khmelnitsky, who reunited Ukraine with Russia. Maybe this?
    7. Well done
      Well done 28 September 2020 15: 33
      0
      "Bogdana" is a transgender name. Rainbow. With a hint of European integration and their "values". In Russian it is called much shorter, but more succinctly. laughing
    8. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 28 September 2020 21: 03
      0
      Quote: Piramidon
      I wonder what Bogdan they name their technique after?

      The female name Bogdan has Old Slavic roots, it is a tracing of the Greek name, which in translation into Russian sounds like Theodora. Subsequently, he acquired a "spoken" form - Bogdana. The meaning of the name is "the desired child", "given by God." hi
      That's it, no more - no less! God-given howitzer! lol It remains to remember the "Hammer" - obviously from Thor! repeat
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 28 September 2020 14: 11
    +1
    "Neptune" has passed tests, but there is no state order (and I think it will not be soon, if at all) The same will happen with this self-propelled gun based on KrAZ - there is no money, and KrAZ lies on its side, and transfer to another chassis is not weeks and not a penny. Selling to someone will fail for the same reasons. Maybe .. with time .. then ..
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 28 September 2020 14: 18
      0
      How can it pass tests if the Neptune anti-ship missile system is in fact not working according to the Ukrainians themselves?
      Kiev is unable to use the new widely publicized Neptune missile system due to the fact that Ukraine has not yet created its own radar support for missile guidance. This was stated by the Ukrainian military expert Taras Chmut.

      According to Chmut, Kiev is forced to ask the United States for missile guidance systems, since the reworked Soviet cruise missiles for Neptune were put into service, but their use is impossible.



      Chmut added that the integration of such weapons into the system of the Ukrainian armed forces is now impossible. According to the expert, during the testing of the missile system, the Ukrainian army faced an unforeseen problem: the missile could not be guided by existing radar systems.

      “We will work together with our western partners, including on their targeting. "Neptune" now does not have its own radar station for identifying targets, and conditionally an American reconnaissance aircraft transmits target designation to a Russian ship to the complex and Neptune conditionally destroys it, ”he summed up.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/mudrost/taras-chmut-zaiavil-o-problemah-s-raketnym-kompleksom-neptun-na-ukraine-5f60b4768169a878163edda5
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 28 September 2020 14: 24
        +2
        Taras Chmut is the head! (imitation of Ilf and Petrov with their "Golden Calf"). And where did the names come from? Previously, they were kind of slicker .. Besides, he talks about the absence of target designation systems for these missiles, and not about their "dampness"
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 28 September 2020 15: 13
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Selling to someone will fail for the same reasons. Maybe .. with time .. then ..

      The Chinese will buy "as is" - everything will work for them for a "Chinese copier".
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 28 September 2020 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        The Chinese will buy "as is" - everything will work for them for a "Chinese copier".

        The Chinese have not been buying everything for a long time, but only what they cannot themselves. And wow their self-propelled gun on a truck, they can. They would not have samples - they would have production, design bureaus, and engineering technicians ... here they are ready, but the story with the MotorSich plant is indicative that in the USA they are also incomplete ..
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 28 September 2020 15: 20
          0
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          The Chinese have not been buying everything for a long time, but only what they cannot themselves.

          Come on ... For the price of scrap metal - let it be at the repair warehouse. Maybe it will come in handy.
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 28 September 2020 15: 22
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            At the price of scrap metal -

            Well, this is certainly possible for a museum.
  3. Eldorado
    Eldorado 28 September 2020 14: 11
    +3
    It will be put into service in a single copy.
    1. Gato
      Gato 28 September 2020 14: 26
      +1
      It will be put into service in a single copy.

      The 155-mm projectile will also be bought in a single copy. If there are enough pennies, then maybe even an active-reactive one.
      1. Arthur73
        Arthur73 28 September 2020 15: 05
        -1
        Nenuacho! And straight to the museum !!! hi
  4. Sergey_G_M
    Sergey_G_M 28 September 2020 14: 11
    +1
    Controversial development.
    Modern self-propelled guns on a wheeled chassis differ from towed ones with additional equipment that is difficult to install on towed weapons, for example, a radar that measures the projectile departure speed, automated loading and ammunition storage, etc. Without all these buns, the ACS does not have any particular advantages over towed artillery, and those advantages that are are leveled out by the price and not versatility. But the Ukrainian SPG does not seem to have these buns (((
  5. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 28 September 2020 14: 12
    +1
    Somehow the ACS does not inspire confidence. As if assembled in a hurry. Is the barrel made of the same alloy as the M120-15 Hammer mortar?
    1. Gato
      Gato 28 September 2020 14: 30
      +4
      And the trunk is done

      I suspect that they drilled out the old D-20
  6. Kushka
    Kushka 28 September 2020 14: 58
    -1
    They say - states are like people.
    And people - everyone - at least once in their life
    tried to fish, play chess,
    go to boxing, make a crossbow, write poetry.
    The results are different - from a bum in a ditch
    to I. Mask.
    States are like people ...
  7. Arthur73
    Arthur73 28 September 2020 15: 03
    +1
    Then, in Ukraine, they immediately decided to focus on the fact that the Bogdan self-propelled gun mount "meets NATO standards!" This refers to the caliber of the ACS.
    Meanwhile, Germany offered to refuse Ukraine both the EU membership and NATO membership. hi
    And they are so hot lol , even the howitzer was cut to fit the NATO standard bp, but in NATO no one really waits for them, especially with their own! hi
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 28 September 2020 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: Arthur73
      And they are so hot, even the howitzer was washed down to the NATO standard

      I remembered how Nakhalyonok at Sholokhov ran "the second help" to sew, so that they would take him to the Red Army. laughing And these which you want where the Master will order to sew, if only they took ...
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 September 2020 15: 05
    -1
    Quote from another resource -
    With an acute shortage of 152-mm shells, the only thing Ukraine can hope for is the supply of NATO-standard shells.
  9. Kent0001
    Kent0001 28 September 2020 17: 02
    0
    Do they have other names? Some Blgdans around ...
  10. Kent0001
    Kent0001 28 September 2020 17: 03
    0
    It will be smashed into chips by a war shell.
  11. Kerensky
    Kerensky 28 September 2020 17: 48
    +1
    As people here rightly noticed, you have to shoot. To check the survivability of the barrel, you need to shoot. To draw up the shooting tables, you need to shoot. And NATO ammunition ... and then the thought stops.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 28 September 2020 18: 39
      0
      And I wonder how they still haven't sold the composition with the shells with the expired shelf life, for zeroing in the only gun.)))
  12. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 28 September 2020 18: 28
    -1
    give it to NATO to test
  13. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 28 September 2020 23: 01
    0
    "It is alleged that the tests confirmed the ability of the self-propelled guns to fire at a rate of up to 6 rounds per minute. According to early statements by the developers, the maximum range when firing an active-rocket projectile is 60 km."
    I'm wondering how you can charge this installation in 10 seconds?))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    ps if anyone did not understand 6 shots per minute ...