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Ruble: closer to 100 or 80 per euro?

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Ruble: closer to 100 or 80 per euro?

What do we care about them?



Today, only two circumstances are slightly reassuring. The first is that six years ago, right after Crimea, and then in 2016, with the next seasonal aggravation, fans of sanctions already had something similar. And forecasts about 100 rubles per euro or dollar, and predictions of the collapse of the entire Russian economy.

And the second is that the overwhelming majority of Russians now do not care about exchange rates. Ordinary citizens are not allowed abroad, and Turkey does not count at all here: it, like Bulgaria once, is not abroad for us at all. It is much more important that prices within the country do not rise up.

This weekend the ruble slipped to 91 against the euro and 77 against the dollar. The marks are not symbolic, and not even psychological, it is just that there has not been such a rate to the euro since the aforementioned 2016. Against the dollar, remember, it already happened worse, at least in March 2020.


It's unpleasant, of course, but you can live. Unless a passionate desire to urgently buy currencies for a rainy day or open a foreign currency deposit overwhelmed. With the first one, it's clear, everything is simple: if someone has an excess of rubles in their wallet, no one has the right to interfere with replacing them with something else. Other and more reliable, as it seems to many, and certainly more promising. This is not the point of view of the authors, but of their foreign colleagues in the pen and very numerous experts.

But the latter today almost vied with each other that the ruble is one of the most promising currencies in the world. Provided with boundless Russian resources above the roof, besides, backed up by colossal reserves of both the state and its Central Bank, a state one, albeit to the envy of an independent one.

Independent from whom is not so important. From whom it is necessary, from that and independent, if we follow the logic of the brave soldier Schweik, this sage who in a strange way found himself in a madhouse. Today, you see, a place in this institution should have been taken by very many of the "helmsmen", but the right to control, alas, still remains with them.

Don't put the ruble next to the dollar


It is well known that money, especially in its modern, paper and electronic form, is almost one hundred percent a surrogate for trust. For fifty years now, the dollar has only been supported by trust, and now the FRS is not even obliged to print papers with presidents. One click - and any number of new billions are thrown into the world circulation.

In this regard, it would seem that no one needs to prove that commodity currencies are backed by something more essential than the trust of the masses and, of course, the elites, such as the drug mafia and all the builders of financial pyramids taken together.

Is this why the Russian ruble has been predicted, if not a strong growth, then certainly not a fall? No, the real and terrible fall of the ruble has not happened yet. But one has only to want our Central Bank, and it will send all positive forecasts to the dump stories.

There would only be a corresponding command from which follows. Although, in comparison with the dollar, at the address of which someone is now stirring up a real panic, the ruble has already fallen very strongly.

Judge for yourself, from May to August, the dollar fell at the effective exchange rate (REER) by 4,3 percent against the major world currencies (against the yuan, pound and euro, as you need to understand). And hence all the calculations on inflation, competitiveness and the fall of the American, and after it, the world GDP.


The ruble, without any recalculation to the effective rate, fell at the exchange rate over the same months by only 4,8% against the euro and some 2,7% percent against the dollar. It is hard to believe in such figures, but now our "wooden" and "oil" ones are only mastering spring panic pandemic heights.

This is somewhere in the region of 80 rubles for an American and more than 90 rubles for a European. But how often the numbers are crafty. After all, it would seem, in order to assess the situation more accurately, it would be necessary to try on not to May, and not even to April, but to the March jump - the maximum rate for the euro at 85,96 rubles and for the dollar - 80,15 rubles.

Do not be surprised, since then the dollar has even fallen in price, but this was only the first sharp reaction to panic.

But one has only to recalculate exchange rates from a different starting point, and the picture will return to the norm, familiar to Russians, where the ruble should not inspire any optimism in anyone by definition. Let us take the beginning of the year as a starting point, so it is more familiar, and more precisely.

So, since January 2020, the same dollar has lost against other leading currencies (not against the ruble, of course) only two tenths of a percent more than since May - 4,5% at the same effective exchange rate. Since then, the ruble has already rolled back by 25,46% against the dollar (to 76,82 rubles against 61,23) and by 31,7% against the euro (89,66 rubles and 68,05).

As they say, feel the difference if you have not been able to play at discounts.

Bloomberg yesterday, Goldman Sachs today


At the same time, sometimes there is a persistent feeling that Western experts and analysts are almost lining up to promote the Russian ruble, which is now more likely to fall than to rise. Now the praises of the ruble have been written out to Goldman Sachs, an investment bank, that is, a clearly speculative bank.


In this American financial store, the ruble was included in the list of the most promising currencies from among developing countries, as reported by CNBC. The Russian currency was on a par with the Mexican peso and the South African rand.

Neighborhood with the peso and the random is, as you need to understand, a compliment. But even then, at the finish of a hopeful summer, the authors expressed doubts about the confidence that representatives of not only the Western expert community, but also the domestic executive power and the Central Bank felt in relation to the national currency. Apparently, they felt a catch.

On the order of speculators, the estimate from Goldman Sachs is not very similar, but if the tips come from the Russian Central Bank itself, or, God forgive me, from the American Fed, everything falls into place. You don't really speculate with the dollar so impudently, simply because they won't believe it, but here - what the hell is not joking.

If something happens, you can, after all, play on the contrary, although it was about a month ago, and now is not the time. The ruble has already fallen too much, the time for a rollback should come just about.

Nevertheless, again, at the end of the summer, we tried to reassure readers, saying that the ruble has more chances for growth than for a fall (“The ruble is against everyone. Why is it falling and why should it strengthen "). In our later forecasts, we even criticized representatives of another branch of power, the legislative, for the fact that they do not share any optimism of government officials regarding the ruble.

But nevertheless, they took into account the reference made by Senator Sergei Kalashnikov to the Belarusian factor and to the Navalny factor. However, further on, alas, everything became even worse: a second wave of the pandemic was approaching, which clearly plunged those in power into something like a shock.

It would be necessary to close the shops again, until now it will hardly be possible to repeat the first run. Almost certainly everything will explode so that American “colored” passions will also fade. Moreover, it will explode, most likely, not where people have really lost a lot and forever. And where they can still survive and produce something real, in addition to transport, tourism and others like them services.

The Third World has already tried to explode more than once, but the trial balloons of the Civil War that swept across the United States, apparently, are only trial balloons. And only when the balls are rolling quite real, it will be possible to turn towards the promising ruble.

In the meantime, in our opinion, it is only promising from the point of view of speculative operations. Yes, the ruble is capable of generating profit for those who have access to large and cheap financial resources. And it is the dollar in this regard that now gives a good chance to earn extra money on buying and selling in pairs with just such currencies as the ruble.

The Russian ruble, in contrast to the tightly controlled yuan, was very demonstratively released by our regulatory bodies, headed by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, into free exchange rate navigation. Is it any wonder that in response to any assurances from the West about the promising and even reliability of the ruble, harsh rebuffs follow from the same Central Bank? ..

Our main credit institution does not tire of repeating that a too strong ruble is unprofitable for our economy. Let them just show you where he is, strong?
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 29 September 2020 05: 08 New
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    So it is profitable for the capitalists, they sell everything for dollars, and they pay in rubles, their profit increases.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 29 September 2020 05: 50 New
      41
      overwhelming most Russians don't care now before exchange rates

      How is that no business? Yes, the Russians are just happy with the collapse of the ruble!

      Putin, on the other hand, explained lucidly (straight on his fingers) about how profitable the cheapened ruble is! What is not clear to anyone? Say, the more expensive the dollar, the more rubles we add! The mathematician is still the same!))) I hope everyone has watched this video with Putin, no need to bring it?

      Soon, Vladimir Vladimirovich, the rate of up to 100 rubles per dollar will catch up (God bless him!) And complete happiness will come to the people! This is how many rubles in Russia will be added at once !!! Let's get rich !!

      The ruble has already fallen too much the time for the rollback should come just about.

      Yeah, I'm still waiting - and when will he roll back to 30 rubles !!)))

      Are you out of your mind? When did the ruble roll back to the values ​​where did it begin to fall?
      If the ruble went on a campaign, then it does not return to its original point. We will never see the usual 60 rubles per dollar. And creates a wooden back only within the limits of volatility. Three steps forward and half a step back. And nothing else.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 29 September 2020 06: 04 New
        -1
        And how to understand the phrase in the article:
        Ordinary citizens are not allowed abroad
        If I am not mistaken, then rather the opposite, not simple citizens are not allowed - the police, the military, the Russian Guards ... Well, of course, if you are not on an excursion to Salisbury!)))
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 29 September 2020 06: 16 New
          18
          trial balloons of the Civil War that swept across the United States, they, apparently, are only trial
          Yeah, and the national debt, too, will not collapse, and the Eluston volcano will not explode. Riddle on riddle.
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 29 September 2020 08: 33 New
            +6
            Yeah, and the national debt, too, something will not collapse ...

            As long as there are countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil, India, Australia and Russia, it ... will not collapse.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 24 New
              -6
              Quote: Doccor18
              and Russia

              PRC should be written instead of RF
          2. NEOZ
            NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 23 New
            -4
            Quote: military_cat
            the national debt, too, is still not going to collapse

            no prerequisites .....
            1. depressant
              depressant 29 September 2020 19: 17 New
              +4
              Colleague of NEOZ, are you sure that everything is in order with our national debt? Not so two weeks ago:

              "The public debt of the Russian Federation will increase in 2020 from 12,5% ​​to 20% of GDP. Due to the coronavirus pandemic and the crisis, it is proposed to increase the volume of borrowings by 2,3 times compared to the original plan for a year. In monetary terms, the amount of borrowing will be 5,4 , 20 trillion rubles. At the same time, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov called the debt of XNUMX% "a dangerous line" beyond which Russia cannot cross. He was supported in this by the head of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina. "
              Country Capital resource, September 13, 2020.

              There is no doubt that the national debt will be increased, crossing the "dangerous line" of 20%.
              Factors:
              1. The need to support the population in a pandemic situation.
              2. The need for a major national infrastructure project.
              3. Provided assistance to Zimbabwe in the amount of $ 20 billion for the right to develop deposits, if I am not mistaken, lithium.
              4. The corporate debt of large enterprises, which has already exceeded the volume of gold and foreign exchange reserves of the state, that is, $ 600 billion. And since all these enterprises are state-owned, then the state will have to pay, since industrialists continuously withdraw their profits to offshores, pay dividends to themselves, and there is nothing left to pay off debts.
              The government is trying to put barriers to this practice in the form of an increase in the tax on withdrawn capital, but these measures are weak. Corporate debt objectively increases government debt.
              1. Igoresha
                Igoresha 30 September 2020 08: 01 New
                +4
                Provided assistance to Zimbabwe in the amount of $ 20 billion
                a couple of days ago a running line on TV and 500 million rubles of humanitarian (!) assistance to Moldovan agricultural enterprises
                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 September 2020 08: 51 New
                  +3
                  Exactly! There was such a thing, colleague, thanks for reminding me. It was surprising: why? Maybe for the fact that our quiet enclave does not spread rot there? The one that is Transnistria?
              2. NEOZ
                NEOZ 1 October 2020 15: 30 New
                -3
                Quote: depressant
                Colleague of NEOZ, are you sure that everything is in order with our national debt?

                Better than many on this planet!
                Quote: depressant
                1. The need to support the population in a pandemic situation.

                Well done!
                Quote: depressant
                which has already exceeded the volume of the state's gold and foreign exchange reserves, that is, $ 600 billion.

                do you know what gold reserves are? what is it for?
                exceeded and good!
                Quote: depressant
                industrialists continuously take their profits offshore, pay themselves dividends, and there is nothing left to pay off debts.

                for this offshore companies are needed, the main asset is enterprises, not money!
                ps
                while I do not see a trend for the surrender of RF positions.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 1 October 2020 15: 34 New
                  0
                  So no one talks about surrender)))
                  Let's talk about how to further strengthen our position. It's not bad when they get stronger, isn't it? ))
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 1 October 2020 15: 38 New
                    -4
                    Quote: depressant
                    Let's talk about how to further strengthen our position.

                    By the way, the United States is very much against the depreciation of the yuan against the dollar ...
                    Quote: depressant
                    It's not bad when they get stronger, isn't it? ))

                    it is dangerous!
                    if the Russians have arrived, it means that someone will lose ... someone will be against ...
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 1 October 2020 15: 45 New
                      +2
                      Colleague ... What has the yuan to do with it? )) Do we have a ruble, or did I miss something? And why is it that if it arrives at our place, someone will lose it? If we make a product from our raw materials by our own labor, we will thereby create added value and become richer without taking anything away from others. Is not it?))
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 29 September 2020 06: 40 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And how to understand the phrase in the article:
          Ordinary citizens are not allowed abroad

          Maybe it was meant - abroad (itself) does not allow, due to restrictions due to coronavirus?

          And ordinary citizens now definitely have no time for foreign countries! Coronavirus, unemployment, falling living standards ... a crisis with all the consequences. And the cheaper ruble completes the dirty work - multiplies the ruble deposits by zero and makes foreign travel more and more unattainable.
        3. Gardamir
          Gardamir 29 September 2020 06: 54 New
          13
          And how to understand the phrase in the article: Ordinary citizens are not allowed abroad
          What difference does it make who does not let in, a functionary from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union or a ruble from Nabiullina?
      2. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 29 September 2020 06: 09 New
        23
        Quote: Stas157
        Russians are just happy with the collapse of the ruble!

        And how ... the purchasing power has become two times less than when the damned imperialists, the American ruble was worth 30-something hard-earned rubles ... Of course, the Russians do not care about exchange rates, yeah ...
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 26 New
          -18 qualifying.
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          The purchasing power is two times less than when the damned imperialists, the American ruble was worth 30-something hard rubles rubles.

          what?
          Give examples of TWICE collapse of the purchasing power of Russians.
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 29 September 2020 16: 33 New
            +7
            Quote: NEOZ
            Give examples of TWICE collapse of the purchasing power of Russians.

            No, cabbage and onions have not doubled in price, but in our country almost all consumer electronics are imported from overseas and bought for foreign currency. And our cars are also mostly imported. Their price has increased by 5% over the past 75 years.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 44 New
              -13 qualifying.
              Quote: astepanov
              And our cars are also mostly imported. Their price has increased by 5% over the past 75 years.

              Lech, well, at least you need to think a little!
              the car market in 2015 amounted to 1,5 million cars, and in 2019 it amounted to 1,8 million.
              where is the drop by 75% ???
              on the contrary, an increase of 300 thousand. auto !!!!!!!!
              ps
              Alexey, let's have a diary ... TWO .....
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 29 September 2020 17: 16 New
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                Quote: NEOZ
                Alexey, let's have a diary ... TWO .....

                It's not about sales, but about retail prices. And they have grown for imported goods in five years, almost doubled. These are computers, TVs, refrigerators, mobile phones, cars ... Domestic goods also include imported components: polymers, dyes, accessories, etc. Something I did not notice the proportional increase in the salaries of Russians ...
                So sit down, two. And there is no need to substitute concepts and cheat: this is not a bazaar.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 30 September 2020 11: 57 New
                  -6
                  Quote: astepanov
                  It's not about sales, but about retail prices.

                  Lesh, is that what you have in your head?
                  see your comment:
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  Give examples of TWICE collapse of the purchasing power of Russians.

                  No, cabbage and onions have not doubled in price, but in our country almost all consumer electronics are imported from overseas and bought for foreign currency. And our cars are also mostly imported. Their price has increased by 5% over the past 75 years.

                  it was about PURCHASING ABILITY !!!!!!!!!!

                  ps
                  and what difference does it make to you what prices, as a result, you began to live BETTER !!!!!!!!!
            2. BAI
              BAI 29 September 2020 18: 11 New
              +5
              And our cars are also mostly imported. Their price has increased by 5% over the past 75 years.

              From this it follows that in dollars, cars fell by 25% (the dollar increased by 100, cars by 75). Those. in the days of the "strong" ruble, imports were sold in the Russian Federation at frankly inflated prices. So the fall of the ruble helps to expose the deception of traders.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 1 October 2020 15: 33 New
                -4
                Quote: BAI
                So the fall of the ruble helps to reveal the deception of traders.

                shows dollar devaluation .....
                the purchasing power of the dollar falls on goods from all over the world.
            3. vlad106
              vlad106 1 October 2020 16: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: astepanov
              ... our cars are also mostly imported. Over the past 5 years, the price for them has grown by 75%


              And the components of our modern cars are mostly imported ... import substitution is not visible
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 29 September 2020 20: 08 New
            +9
            Quote: NEOZ
            Give examples of TWICE collapse of the purchasing power of Russians.

            Go to the store, buy some cheese and sausage. Good cheese and sausage have risen in price at least twice compared to 2014. Tea, coffee no less, cars, household appliances as well.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 05 New
              -5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Go to the store, buy some cheese and sausage.

              yes yes, it’s out of hunger that I have nowhere to park a car in the yard ...
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 06: 29 New
                +4
                Have you decided to become the winner of the comment obscurity contest?
                I specifically told you that the price has risen two or more times. Is there anything to say on this topic?
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 1 October 2020 12: 20 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Have you decided to become the winner of the comment obscurity contest?

                  you are still in the lead in the unofficial standings!
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  I specifically told you that the price has risen two or more times. Is there anything to say on this topic?

                  Igor, you are confusing goals and tools.
                  what difference does it make to you how much food costs if you end up eating MORE of them !!!!!!!!!
                  prices and money are a mechanism (instruments) for the distribution of goods / services to the population !!!
                  is it so hard to understand this simple truth?
          3. Mikhail Ya2
            Mikhail Ya2 1 October 2020 08: 09 New
            +1
            Why go far? Travel in the subway in Moscow. 2013 40 rubles. 2020-57rub
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 October 2020 12: 40 New
              +1
              Housing and communal services have also risen in price less than two times, but does this really change the fact that cheese and sausage have risen in price by 2,5 times?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 29 September 2020 16: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          The purchasing power has become two times less than when the damned imperialists, the American ruble was worth 30-something hard-earned rubles ... Of course, the Russians do not care about exchange rates, yeah ...

          20 million beggars confirm it .. it doesn't matter about the damn dollar ..
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 48 New
            -14 qualifying.
            Quote: Svarog
            20 million beggars confirm this ..

            again the Ukrainians got excited ...
            and in which country are there no beggars?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 29 September 2020 16: 49 New
              12
              Quote: NEOZ
              and in which country are there no beggars?

              IN USSR.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 29 September 2020 17: 00 New
                -14 qualifying.
                Quote: Svarog
                IN USSR.

                1.The USSR no longer exists
                2.the citizens of the USSR did not think so
                ps
                ask Petrosyan, he won't let you lie!
                everyone so wanted to rot a little, like the rotting west rotting ... and everything that was said about the west was clumsy soviet propaganda !!! ...
                PPP
                do not idealize the Soviet Union, it collapsed for objective reasons ...
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 29 September 2020 17: 09 New
                  +9
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  2.the citizens of the USSR did not think so

                  Come on .. are you familiar with the results of the referendum? The "reformers" and Western sycophants did not think so.
                  ask Petrosyan,

                  What to discuss with you if Petrosyan is an authority for you.
                  do not idealize the Soviet Union, it collapsed for objective reasons.

                  Don't teach me what to idealize for me .. Think about your ideals and where they led the once mighty empire and what is left of it ..
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 30 September 2020 11: 53 New
                    -8
                    Quote: Svarog
                    The "reformers" and Western sycophants did not think so.

                    Cho I do not remember the defenders of the USSR ....... they took up arms? were the people and the army one? and where was the KGB? and the Ministry of Internal Affairs? ..... where were all these people?
                    Quote: Svarog
                    if Petrosyan is an authority for you.

                    the citizens of the USSR loved his jokes about the USSR, didn't they?
                    Quote: Svarog
                    where they led the once mighty empire and what is left of it

                    do you mean the Russian Empire?
              2. BAI
                BAI 29 September 2020 18: 12 New
                -2
                Quote: NEOZ
                and in which country are there no beggars?

                IN USSR.

                There was no sex in the USSR, according to the officials.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 30 September 2020 11: 53 New
                  -3
                  Quote: BAI
                  There was no sex in the USSR, according to the officials.

                  which official stated this?
      3. Pilot
        Pilot 29 September 2020 06: 14 New
        16
        Quote: Stas157
        Soon, Vladimir Vladimirovich, the rate of up to 100 rubles per dollar will catch up (God bless him!) And complete happiness will come to the people!
        laughing The Tsar-hope would not disappoint, otherwise after the spring currency offensive, all the cash was exchanged for greens. repeat Living with wolves - don't keep rubles. wassat Give a breakthrough Vladimir Vladimirovich to 150 rubles per dollar! fellow
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 29 September 2020 06: 32 New
          16
          Russia is an independent state? Gy ...
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 29 September 2020 06: 36 New
            10
            Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent wink
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 29 September 2020 07: 40 New
              +2
              In fact, only idiots kept and are keeping their money in rubles (meaning savings). Even my parents, pensioners of the Soviet era, and those who keep the remnants of their pension in .... canned food and cereals. I keep in .... loans (alas, everything goes to the loan and repayment of loans, that is, I live off the wheels). yes
              1. Pilot
                Pilot 29 September 2020 07: 53 New
                +6
                Quote: Snail N9
                In fact, only idiots kept and are keeping their money in rubles (meaning savings). Even my parents, pensioners of the Soviet era, and those who keep the remnants of their pension in .... canned food and cereals. I keep in .... loans (alas, everything goes to the loan and repayment of loans, that is, I live off the wheels). yes

                Until recently, it was more profitable to keep in rubles, interest in banks was quite acceptable, as long as the Central Bank did not begin to lower the rate + the devaluation of the ruble and the crown that had begun to heap. Also, the fabulous one decided to tax the deposits, so we have what we have.
              2. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 08: 18 New
                -2
                judging by the people, all the stash and savings have already been spent, who did the repairs, then bought the equipment, many who bought land from
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 29 September 2020 09: 14 New
                  15
                  Quote: Nastia Makarova
                  many who have bought land

                  Aha 2 per meter!
                  1. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 10: 45 New
                    -5
                    why so pessimistic
                2. Alexander I
                  Alexander I 29 September 2020 14: 32 New
                  +1
                  Many acquaintances have poured savings into the repair or construction of housing, and only one eccentric bought a bucket of nuts for 1,5 lem but is happy)))
                  1. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 14: 46 New
                    -5
                    the best investment is real estate, but who had what for, someone bought an apartment and someone a garden plot
                    1. NEOZ
                      NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 11 New
                      -7
                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      but who had what for, someone bought an apartment and someone a garden plot

                      as??? judging by the comments here everyone is begging !!!! they can't buy a computer !!!!! potatoes and onions are crazy money !!!!! dollar 80 !!!!!!!! ......................
                      and then ...... apartments / land bought .........
                      hungry people don't buy apartments / cars !!!!!!!
                      something is wrong here ...... someone is lying !!!!!!
                      1. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 1 October 2020 09: 53 New
                        0
                        those. since they can still buy something, drain the savings, then they live well? hmm .. that is, those who are not yet on the street and not in the garbage-all live well? and we must be glad that it is still not in the trash? nunu .. what an optimist you are ..
                      2. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 1 October 2020 12: 14 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        since they can still buy something, drain the savings, then they live well?

                        is it an apartment? - Are you completely fed up?
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        that is, those who are not yet on the street and in the trash heaps, all live well?

                        that is, if people buy APARTMENTS AND LAND they live WELL !!!!!!
                        ps
                        here again this Ukrainian manipulation - you are making a false statement that if people do not buy apartments, they live in garbage dumps!
                        and right there, if people buy apartments, this does not mean that they live well!

                        you are a manipulator! you are always not enough! you always feel bad!
                      3. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 1 October 2020 13: 38 New
                        0
                        Well, in 1x-about apartments you said. And I said something - draining savings in order to save them from the rapidly falling exchange rate, i.e. losing your savings is well, nothing good at all, isn't it? That people do not trust the state and do not want to keep money in rubles, is it good? An indicator of how good the economy is?
                        in 2-apartments without a mortgage are now buying a few.
                        And about cars in every yard - is this not a manipulation from you? as if you don't know that 2/3 of them are on credit and before payment, they actually belong to the bank ..
                        By the way, let's measure the welfare of cars - in the 90s, compared to the 80s, we also have 2-3 times more cars in the yard, moreover, foreign cars - and mostly German! in your opinion in the 90s it is better than in the 80s 3 times to live all began? and with the 70s so in terms of the number of cars and 4-5 times better started to live in the 90s?

                        P.S. if we consider something a manipulation, where does the "Ukrainian"? Do you think anything you don't like Ukrainian? It's not normal a little ...
              3. NEOZ
                NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 07 New
                -3
                Quote: AlexanderI
                one eccentric for 1,5 lemma bought a bucket of nuts but happy)))

                was this the most hungry of them all?
                1. Alexander I
                  Alexander I 30 September 2020 13: 45 New
                  +1
                  Well, why, the person worked, but living in our country somehow does not trust financial stability very much, probably there are reasons for this)))
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 29 September 2020 09: 20 New
          13
          Quote: Pilot
          Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent

          Zaputintsy have no time, they constantly rise rocky and import substitution, they do not care about exchange rates because they have a stabilizer.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 29 September 2020 16: 35 New
            +4
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: Pilot
            Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent

            Zaputintsy have no time, they constantly rise rocky and import substitution, they do not care about exchange rates because they have a stabilizer.

            and break through .. breakout .. storm ..
        3. Boris55
          Boris55 29 September 2020 09: 56 New
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: Pilot
          Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent

          And what, all the amendments to the Laws and new Laws, in connection with the changes in the Constitution, have already been adopted? And under legal acts?

          Quote: Dead Day
          Russia is an independent state?

          Russia will become independent only when the red banner develops over the country, when Volgograd is renamed Stalingrad, when the mausoleum shakes off the plywood shields.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 29 September 2020 10: 04 New
            +9
            Quote: Boris55
            Russia will become independent when the red banner develops over the country, when Volgograd will be renamed Stalingrad, when the mausoleum shakes off its plywood shields.

            Putinism will not let your dream come true.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 29 September 2020 10: 09 New
              -20 qualifying.
              Quote: Malyuta
              Putinism will not let your dream come true.

              Tell me, the adopted amendments to the Constitution on Putin's initiative strengthen the sovereignty of Russia or not? In my opinion, yes. This is a movement in the right direction. Quickly - this is "Maidan" as a result of which there are only torn panties stretched to the very neck.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 29 September 2020 10: 17 New
                10
                Quote: Boris55
                Do you think the adopted amendments to the Constitution on Putin's initiative strengthen Russia's sovereignty or not?

                NOT!!!
                Quote: Boris55
                In my opinion, yes.

                If you support Putin, then forget about the Red Banner forever, this person, following the guidance of his spiritual gurus Ebna and Sobchak, with all his might turns the formal collapse of the USSR into an actual separation.
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 29 September 2020 10: 36 New
                  -15 qualifying.
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  NOT!!!

                  That is, in your opinion, trading in territories, calling for foreigners to rule is good, but a ban on doing this is bad? wassat

                  Quote: Malyuta
                  following the guidance of their spiritual gurus, ebna and sobchak.

                  How do you imagine the introduction into a hostile structure to take over control? So a guy came to the Kremlin in a dusty helmet with a Mauser in crayfish and would say to Yeltsin: "Well, come on from the mudflow, now I will steer Russia."
                  So what? laughing

                  "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

                  Quote: Malyuta
                  by all means turns the formal collapse of the USSR into an actual disunity.

                  In your opinion, Putin is so stupid that for all the time he could not destroy Russia, for which it took Gorbaty several times less time to destroy the USSR? laughing

                  The topic is not the same. Therefore, for now. hi
                2. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 31 New
                  -11 qualifying.
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  then forget about the Red Banner forever

                  is it not forgotten forever?
                  do you want to live under the same roof with the Georgians? with Azerbaijanis? with the Kyrgyz? with the Tajiks? ..... maybe you also want to subsidize these republics up to the Russian level?
                  1. vlad106
                    vlad106 1 October 2020 16: 49 New
                    -1
                    Quote: NEOZ

                    ... do you want to live under the same roof with Georgians? with Azerbaijanis?


                    both Georgians and Azerbaijanis and Moldavians are normal people.
                    well, there are occasionally brainless ones, so we have enough of them too
                  2. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 5 October 2020 11: 43 New
                    -2
                    Quote: vlad106
                    both Georgians and Azerbaijanis and Moldavians are normal people.

                    do you want to live with them in the same state?
                    ps
                    what do you think, why the people of 2,5 million people gave the largest number of thieves in law (more than 60%) in a country with a population of under 300 million. man?
              2. Pilot
                Pilot 29 September 2020 20: 17 New
                0
                If you support Putin, then forget about the Red Banner forever, this person, following the guidance of his spiritual gurus Ebna and Sobchak, with all his might turns the formal collapse of the USSR into an actual separation.

                Malyuta, comrade, you don't even need to comment on Borya ... everything got messed up in the house hee hee. Why are they being injected like that? request
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 29 September 2020 20: 43 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Pilot
                  Malyuta, comrade, you don't even need to comment on Borya ... everything got messed up in the house hee hee. Why are they being injected like that?

                  Greetings, Comrade! drinks I trolled Borya slightly, I thought maybe the hellish potion let him go, but no, it grabbed him tightly laughing laughing laughing
                2. Pilot
                  Pilot 29 September 2020 20: 53 New
                  -2
                  Borya is generally a clinic, there may be a couple of them here, no more .. laughing The rest of the analogs are also preparing to become clients in full austerity .. Damn, and yet, what do they get injected or sniff? lol Argentine flour? wassat
                3. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 29 September 2020 21: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Pilot
                  Damn, and yet, what do they get injected or sniff? lol Argentine flour?

                  They don't have enough money for Argentinean flour, and their leaders, the goons and greedy people, won't let them sniff for free, so they are given a sniff of the TV, they pump this hellish potion to them and then immediately wraps them in strong glass wool, not cotton, but armor.
                  Therefore, the clip, torn from the zombie box, becomes weak and pitiful.
                  A new species of anthropoid erephicus-bearers. belay wassat
                  Ugh, you well, you forgot to write again- (joke) laughing
        4. NEOZ
          NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 13 New
          -4
          Quote: Boris55
          Amendments to the Constitution on the initiative of Putin, strengthen the sovereignty of Russia or not?

          well, you just stepped on their ukrogorlo ....))))))))))))))))))))
          there were some cons .......
    2. Antonio_Mariarti
      Antonio_Mariarti 29 September 2020 13: 55 New
      +1
      This will not happen, and thank God.
    3. BAI
      BAI 29 September 2020 18: 15 New
      +2
      Russia will become independent only then

      Those. Do you mean never will?
  • Svarog
    Svarog 29 September 2020 16: 33 New
    +8
    Quote: Dead Day
    Russia is an independent state? Gy ...

    The government and officials do not depend on the people ... apparently so you need to understand ...
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 27 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: Pilot
    The Tsar-Hope would not disappoint

    you worry about your Zetsark ...
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 29 September 2020 14: 53 New
      +7
      Quote: NEOZ
      Quote: Pilot
      The Tsar-Hope would not disappoint

      you worry about your Zetsark ...

      Hamite Lavrenty, otherwise the evidence of my alleged Ukrainianship is in the studio. Otherwise, you are a bullshit or!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 33 New
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Pilot
        evidence of my alleged Ukrainians in the studio.

        here goes:
        Quote: Pilot
        Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent

        Ukrainians shout loudest of all that the constitution is only for zeroing!
        Quote: Pilot
        Also, the fabulous one decided to tax the deposits, so we have what we have.

        Yes, yes, the Ukrainians just give a reason to yell Fri xl.
        Quote: Pilot
        Living with wolves - don't keep rubles.

        Ukrainians constantly give such advice to provoke panic
        Quote: Pilot
        Until recently, it was more profitable to keep in rubles, interest in banks was quite acceptable, until the Central Bank began to lower the rate

        only a stoned ragul can argue that a mortgage at 5% is worse than a mortgage at 17% !!!!!!!!!!
        conclusion:
        your conclusions give out in you a Ukrainian, a person with specific (Ukrainian) views (having nothing to do with reality) on the world order.
        you are a Ukrainian mowing like a Russian patriot.
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 29 September 2020 17: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: NEOZ
          Quote: Pilot
          evidence of my alleged Ukrainians in the studio.

          here goes:
          Quote: Pilot
          Ask a colleague of the Zaputins how the new constitution made Russia independent

          Ukrainians shout loudest of all that the constitution is only for zeroing!
          Quote: Pilot
          Also, the fabulous one decided to tax the deposits, so we have what we have.

          Yes, yes, the Ukrainians just give a reason to yell Fri xl.
          Quote: Pilot
          Living with wolves - don't keep rubles.

          Ukrainians constantly give such advice to provoke panic
          Quote: Pilot
          Until recently, it was more profitable to keep in rubles, interest in banks was quite acceptable, until the Central Bank began to lower the rate

          only a stoned ragul can argue that a mortgage at 5% is worse than a mortgage at 17% !!!!!!!!!!
          conclusion:
          your conclusions give out in you a Ukrainian, a person with specific (Ukrainian) views (having nothing to do with reality) on the world order.
          you are a Ukrainian mowing like a Russian patriot.

          Eg, your conclusions betray you as an alternatively gifted (a more precise definition of the censorship does not pass), it's a pity the flags were removed, otherwise Khrych would have pointed his nose in the tricolor ... the site's old-timers remember this action, when the idiot suspected a pissed prapor under the Red Banner. laughing
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 00 New
            -6
            Quote: Pilot
            Eh, your conclusions betray you

            freaks always think that they are surrounded by crazy ..... any unhealthy person will tell you that he is healthy!
        2. Pilot
          Pilot 29 September 2020 19: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: NEOZ
          only a stoned ragul can argue that a mortgage at 5% is worse than a mortgage at 17% !!!!!!!!!!
          You yourself then puffed up for a mortgage for 25 years? There is already pouha interest, just to survive, to hold out, without guarantees from the employer and the state ... I always advised young people to live wisely, within their means, then free money will appear, bankers will owe you and not vice versa. It works for me, it will work for others, there would be a goal and everything else is empty tinsel. Only zaputintsy will hollow the market mantras, these people don't know anything else, the liberals are tough .. And if you still can't help your children in acquiring housing, then why don't you smoke this world!
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 16 New
            -3
            Quote: Pilot
            You yourself then puffed up for a mortgage for 25 years?

            yes!
            took over 30 years. 5% per annum.
            Quote: Pilot
            There is already pouha interest, just to survive, to hold out, without guarantees from the employer and the state ... I always advised young people to live wisely, within their means, then free money will appear, bankers will owe you and not vice versa. It works for me, it will work for others, there would be a goal and everything else is empty tinsel. Only zaputintsy will hollow the market mantras, these people don't know anything else, the liberals are tough .. And if you still can't help your children in acquiring housing, then why don't you smoke this world!

            some kind of verbal diarrhea ...
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 30 September 2020 08: 18 New
    0
    Give a breakthrough Vladimir Vladimirovich to 150 rubles per dollar!
    a firm step towards zeroing the ruble, comrades!
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 04 New
    -9
    Quote: Stas157
    How is that no business? Yes, the Russians are just happy with the collapse of the ruble!

    you are manipulating !!!! this is how girls usually behave when they quarrel with men ...
    nothing matters just happy!
    why are you manipulating?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 29 September 2020 14: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: NEOZ
      you are manipulating !!!! this is how girls usually behave when quarreling with men ...

      You know better (if you are a girl). If you are a man, then what did you suddenly remember about girls during a business conversation? A sore spot or what? Looks like the girls treated you badly! Well, you need to carefully choose girls)))
      Quote: NEOZ
      why are you manipulating?

      Straight cry from the heart! Sorry for accidentally hitting you and not living up to your expectations! I think you are too vulnerable. So you quarrel with the girls)) What are you manipulating you name it, I still do not understand. As for my comment, it was just sarcasm.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 29 September 2020 15: 05 New
        -9
        Quote: Stas157
        If you are a man, then what did you suddenly remember about girls during a business conversation?

        you reminded me
        Quote: Stas157
        A sore spot or what?

        there is such ... psychological trauma ... my wife left me ... said: - "you, Lavrenty, a man ... and I need a real MAN !!!!"
        Quote: Stas157
        Well, you need to carefully choose girls)))

        thanks for the advice
        Quote: Stas157
        Sorry,

        forgive
        Quote: Stas157
        I think you are too vulnerable.

        you're right .... it's good that I have excellent depressants!
        Quote: Stas157
        And what do you call manipulation, I still do not understand.

        psychological impact on someone in order to arouse his intentions that do not coincide with his really existing desires, goals.
        accordingly, you gave the words a meaning that the author of the words did not mean.
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 29 September 2020 16: 02 New
    0
    In Bulgaria, 300 Russians have bought housing. Very much for permanent residence .. when we bought and arrived the ruble was worth 000-20 dollars .. Now it is very difficult to live here with 30 rubles a pension and a loan must be paid. Well done, Putin!
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 51 New
      -6
      Quote: bagatura
      Well done, Putin!

      I agree!
      the pension of Russian citizens must remain in Russia !!!!!
      and let the Bulgarians begging ...
      1. Bagatur
        Bagatur 29 September 2020 19: 37 New
        +1
        Doesn't matter to us! Let them think how they will solve their problems.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 17 New
          -1
          Quote: bagatura
          Doesn't matter to us!

          I agree!
          Nothing can save you!
          1. Bagatur
            Bagatur 30 September 2020 15: 16 New
            0
            Look at yourself! The fact that we are not your concern. We also don't need to climb into someone else's house!
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 30 September 2020 15: 19 New
              0
              Quote: bagatura
              300 Russians bought housing. Very much for permanent residence .. when we bought and arrived the ruble cost 000-20 dollars .. Now it is very difficult to live here with 30 rubles a pension and a loan

              Quote: bagatura
              Look at yourself! The fact that we are not your concern. We also don't need to climb into someone else's house!

              Well, who's going where?
              1. Bagatur
                Bagatur 30 September 2020 18: 20 New
                +2
                Exactly! It's very bad in Bulgaria, they are Bulgarians ... But they came to Bulgaria! Welcome, you too! But I am not aware of any Bulgarians who bought real estate in Russia.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 1 October 2020 12: 24 New
                  -1
                  Quote: bagatura
                  But I'm not aware of any Bulgarians who bought real estate in Russia.

                  Bulgarians are very poor .....
                  due to the fact that Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe, real estate prices there are low, as are the prices for everything else (example: in Nigeria you can be king, receiving $ 100 a month) .... Bulgaria is a cheap alternative Sochi !!!!
                  that's all!
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 1 October 2020 15: 35 New
    -2
    Quote: Stas157
    Are you out of your mind? When did the ruble roll back to the values ​​where did it begin to fall?

    tell me why the US is against the depreciation of the yuan against the dollar?
  • krops777
    krops777 29 September 2020 07: 28 New
    0
    So it is profitable for the capitalists, they sell everything for dollars, and they pay in rubles, their profit increases.


    And most importantly, budgetary obligations are being met and I think this is the main problem, why the ruble is always falling.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 11 New
      -8
      Quote: krops777
      and I think

      they think this when: they carry out mental activity, mentally concentrate on something, process information in the mind, reason, analyzing the phenomena of reality and drawing conclusions.
      this is not fortune-telling or faith. it is hard work.
      Explain on what basis did you come to this conclusion?
      1. krops777
        krops777 29 September 2020 14: 44 New
        +2
        Explain on what basis did you come to this conclusion?


        You can print more rubles for the oil and gas dollars received from the sale of oil and gas and thereby close the holes in the budget, it is a shame not to know such simple things Lavrenty.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 56 New
          -9
          Quote: krops777
          Such simple things are ashamed not to know Lavrenty.

          I would add to your comment the ever-increasing dollar mass in the world, which leads to dollar inflation in relation to the goods / services produced, as well as a large% of gold and other hard currency (not dollars, which are still backed by the dollar) in the gold reserves .. .. accordingly, the prices of goods will rise regardless of the exchange rate, but the exchange rate will further spur the rise in prices.
          this process is irreversible !!!! so don't worry about it !!!!!!
    2. BAI
      BAI 29 September 2020 18: 21 New
      +4
      And the government does not hide it. A one kopeck rise in the dollar's price brings billions of rubles to the budget. (I can't remember who) someone from the government let it slip. Out of the blue. Doing nothing.
      That is why the dollar will never fall. Although they say never say never, this is exactly the case here. It will grow to an obscenely high height, they will devalue the ruble, fortunately, not the first time, and again along the old rake to a brighter future.
      1. Jmbg
        Jmbg 29 September 2020 21: 50 New
        +1
        The reverse is also true: the only reason the exchange rate falls is because the government prints money. There is no other reason.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 19 New
          -2
          Quote: Jmbg
          There is no other reason.

          Ha!
          and the reduction in gold reserves without reducing the ruble supply?
          1. Jmbg
            Jmbg 7 October 2020 23: 27 New
            0
            99% of money in each country is bought for goods and services, and not exchanged for the currency of another country. Consequently, the balance between goods and services, on the one hand, and the amount of money, on the other, determines the "price of money."
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 8 October 2020 13: 59 New
              0
              Quote: Jmbg
              99% of money in each country is bought for goods and services, and not exchanged for the currency of another country.

              of course not!!!!
              99% of money in each country is exchanged for the currency of one country, namely the USA !!!!!!!!
              I will give Bulgaria as an example:
              1.oil / gas is bought for dollars
              2.Imported manufacturing goods are bought for dollars
              3. means of production (tools) are bought for dollars
              all that Bulgaria does is labor, which consumes 1-3 points in the end .....
              ps
              petrodollar rules the world !!!!
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 September 2020 18: 56 New
      -2
      Because it is beneficial to all exporters, but importers are not profitable, which gives an incentive for domestic producers, and a weak ruble in conjunction with the first allows you to quickly fill and close the budget - therefore, no one will refuse from a weak ruble.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 29 September 2020 07: 30 New
    +7
    Oil and gas fell in price, the dollar and euro in Russia became a deficit for export over the hillock, and therefore timber fell in price. Do you need to trade something?
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 15 New
      -6
      Quote: siberalt
      Oil and gas prices fell, the dollar and euro in Russia became a deficit for export over the hill

      please explain how oil / gas prices and the ruble exchange rate are related?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 16 New
      -7
      Quote: siberalt
      for export over the hill,

      how do you imagine the export of the dollar / euro over the hill? describe the diagram how it works.
    3. BAI
      BAI 29 September 2020 18: 22 New
      +5
      Oil and gas prices fell

      For that, we managed to avoid a fall in gasoline prices.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 29 September 2020 08: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Pessimist22
    So it is profitable for the capitalists, they sell everything for dollars, and they pay in rubles, their profit increases.

    And since today almost the entire budget is filled by capitalists amid a general pandemic crisis, the fall of the ruble also performs the function of stabilizing the volume of ruble receipts to the treasury with the existing surplus in Russia's foreign trade, the budget also benefits somewhat from this. And this situation also plays the role of prohibitive measures for the penetration of imports into our market, which indirectly stimulates domestic production. Of course, if a person cannot imagine himself without trips to the Cote d'Azur, then the behavior of the ruble is a problem for him. For those who manage to find an opportunity to relax on their territory, nothing has changed dramatically. Therefore, when subscribing to the article with the high title of Doctor of Economics, one should understand that any event, together with negative, necessarily carries a positive. And if you do not see this, then either "Doctor of Economic Sciences" - fiction, or for the positive is not paid. laughing
    1. Borisych1973
      Borisych1973 29 September 2020 09: 58 New
      11
      For those who manage to find an opportunity to relax on their territory, nothing has changed dramatically.
      Nothing has changed except prices in stores. And the prices, by the way, are for the same holidays within the country.
      one should understand that any event, together with the negative, necessarily carries a positive
      Looking for grain in shit is not the most pleasant experience, you will not envy you.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 29 September 2020 10: 34 New
        -5
        Quote: Borisych1973
        Looking for grain in shit is not the most pleasant experience, you will not envy you.

        Any analysis or research is carried out precisely by picking and shoveling a mountain of waste rock and, as you call it, shit. And if there is no craving for knowledge, then there is nothing to be done ... Do you want to do everything with white gloves? Oh well...
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 29 September 2020 09: 25 New
    +7
    Quote: Pessimist22
    So it is profitable for the capitalists, they sell everything for dollars, and they pay in rubles, their profit increases.


    It's like that.

  • iouris
    iouris 29 September 2020 13: 42 New
    -2
    Quote: Pessimist22
    their profits increase.

    And this is good. The purpose of existence is to make a profit.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 20 New
    -8
    Quote: Pessimist22
    capitalists benefit

    what capitalists?
    Quote: Pessimist22
    sell everything for dollars

    why for dollars? why not for other currencies?
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 29 September 2020 05: 12 New
    25
    "... before we sold for a dollar and received 30 rubles for it. And now we get 45 rubles for a dollar. That's it, the budget is full ..." This phrase reveals the entire primitiveness of the economy. There is no free floating of the ruble, there is a purposeful man-made decrease in its exchange rate.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 29 September 2020 06: 08 New
      18
      We went to the store to buy sewing machine needles - Chinese, ordinary needles - Chinese, threads - Chinese, bulbs - Chinese, batteries - Chinese, in stores clothes, shoes - China, Kazakhstan, Turkey, only Russian is not.
      And the regularity, the price of oil, gas falls and the ruble goes down with them.
      Since 2000, the dollar-euro has grown almost 3 times.
      For some reason, this only applies to Russia.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 29 September 2020 07: 43 New
        +7
        Well, yes, that's right, the Kremlin's money-boxes (accumulations) are in gold reserves, and the obligations to the population are in rubles. The more expensive the currency, the less it is needed in order to fulfill social obligations to the population. yes
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 41 New
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: Snail N9
          The Kremlin in the gold reserves,

          Do you know what gold reserves are? and what is their function?
      2. your1970
        your1970 29 September 2020 07: 48 New
        -4
        Quote: YOUR
        Went to the store to buy sewing machine needles - Chinese, ordinary needles - Chinese, threads - Chinese, light bulbs - Chinese, batteries - Chinese, in
        15 years ago, a scandal swept across the United States in state institutions - the eagle on the US coat of arms looked not that side... It turned out that the US does not have its own production of coats of arms and flags ...
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 40 New
          -8
          Quote: your1970
          It turned out that the US does not have its own production of coats of arms and flags ...

          and that's ok !!!! ..... for the USA ....
        2. your1970
          your1970 29 September 2020 20: 02 New
          0
          belay belay 7 people put cons - apparently they are sick of the soul for the USA ... lol apparently to the soul of people such a case in the history of the United States
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 21 New
            -3
            Quote: your1970
            7 people put minuses - for the United States, they seem to be sick of the soul ...

            these are Ukrainians ... sofa troops, cyber special forces ... there are more than half of them ...
      3. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 08: 20 New
        -2
        it concerns half of the world)))) but some had fat to survive
      4. grad2308
        grad2308 29 September 2020 09: 37 New
        +6
        Quote: YOUR
        We went to the store to buy sewing machine needles - Chinese, ordinary needles - Chinese, threads - Chinese, bulbs - Chinese, batteries - Chinese, in stores clothes, shoes - China, Kazakhstan, Turkey, only Russian is not.
        And the regularity, the price of oil, gas falls and the ruble goes down with them.
        Since 2000, the dollar-euro has grown almost 3 times.
        For some reason, this only applies to Russia.

        Likewise. I went to buy a nail puller, of 15 items - all Chinese, prices from 120 rubles. up to 1200 rubles. I had to take it for 451 rubles. Those. the elementary instrument is no longer produced ....
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 38 New
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: grad2308
          Likewise. I went to buy a nail puller, of 15 items - all Chinese, prices from 120 rubles. up to 1200 rubles. I had to take it for 451 rubles. Those. the elementary instrument is no longer produced ....

          You and your ilk have never thought of the question: "Why can the USSR / RF make first-class fighters and submarines, but clothes and cars cannot?"
          look for the answer to this question in textbooks, there all these patterns are DESCRIBED !!!!!!!
          these processes are REGULAR !!!!!!!! ........ it is very stupid to be indignant about gravity, right?
          1. grad2308
            grad2308 29 September 2020 15: 06 New
            +5
            To begin with, you are not worthy to put the avatar of Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria. The country's nuclear shield, you didn’t fix it ... Moreover, to compare the USSR and Russia. In the days of the USSR, in the world .... every second civil aircraft was a product of the domestic aviation industry, and now the aviation industry has one name ..... You teach people's life that all idlers .... And you yourself denigrate the property of the USSR with your statements. PS Probably nothing was produced from that "clip" in the USSR: "Except for green sausage and galoshes." Do not instigate on the site.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 29 September 2020 15: 21 New
              -5
              Quote: grad2308
              To begin with, you are not worthy to put the avatar of Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.

              on what basis do you decide what I can put on my avatar and what not?
              Quote: grad2308
              The country's nuclear shield, it was not you who fastened ...

              ROSS42 also did not seem to hang a flag over the Reichstag .... and 99% of avatars do not reflect the true face, that's why she is an avatar !!!
              Quote: grad2308
              Moreover, to compare the USSR and Russia.

              why?
              Quote: grad2308
              every second civil aircraft was a product of the domestic aviation industry, and now the aviation industry has one name ...

              Well, 40% of the country remained ... this is LEGAL !!!!!
              Quote: grad2308
              You teach people's life that all bums ...

              you misinterpret my comments, they are aimed at ridding the commentators of concerns that no one can influence ... because this is the LAW OF NATURE ...
              Quote: grad2308
              Do not instigate on the site.

              didn't even think ...
              1. BAI
                BAI 29 September 2020 18: 27 New
                +1
                99% of avatars do not reflect the true face, that's why she is an avatar !!!

                If you mean portrait likeness, then you are right.
      5. Varyag71
        Varyag71 29 September 2020 10: 43 New
        +2
        And you come to the market, so greens, fruits and vegetables from China, Turkey, Egypt and other countries. We lived.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 33 New
          -8
          Quote: Varyag71
          Survived.

          what are you unhappy with?
      6. Not with you
        Not with you 29 September 2020 14: 08 New
        +3
        So during this time, since 2000 ...
        and the country (.....) three times from my knees
        got up and back ... on them ...
        All knees are calloused ... laughing
        Nothing to do about ...
        Sly such plans ..... u ....
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 33 New
          -7
          Quote: Not with you
          All knees are calloused ...

          such is the fate of Ukraine and Georgia ...
          Quote: Not with you
          Sly such plans ..... u ....

          maybe you are lucky and the Sly Man will help you once again ... pray for him ...
          1. Not with you
            Not with you 29 September 2020 15: 18 New
            +4
            A poem, just a poem ...
            Lavrenty Palych Beria.
            Didn't justify the trust.
            Remained from Beria.
            Only down and only feathers ...
            laughing
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 29 September 2020 15: 42 New
              -8
              Quote: Not with you
              Didn't justify the trust.

              I do not justify the trust of the traitors to the Motherland!
      7. NEOZ
        NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 30 New
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: YOUR
        only there is no Russian.

        and what? ..... you know that the northern country with a population of 149 million. a person cannot produce 100% of goods and services?
        Quote: YOUR
        oil, gas is falling and the ruble, along with them, goes down at its peak.

        how are oil / gas prices and the ruble / dollar exchange rate related?
        Quote: YOUR
        Since 2000, the dollar-euro has grown almost 3 times.

        the standard of living of Russians from 2000 to 2020 increased almost 5 times ...
        Quote: YOUR
        For some reason, this only applies to Russia.

        because you are talking about things that you have no idea !!!!!!
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 33 New
      -9
      Quote: 7,62x54
      there is a purposeful, man-made lowering of its rate.

      Do you even know what gold and foreign exchange reserves are and what their function is?
  • apro
    apro 29 September 2020 05: 18 New
    18
    The ruble exchange rate ... one of the methods of robbing the people, with the explicit participation of the state, the spokesman for the leading class of Russia, the bourgeoisie ...
    How to influence. It is not possible to adapt.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 29 September 2020 08: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: apro
      How to influence. It is not possible to adapt.

      How can one adapt to legalized speculation?
      The speculators are ready to take off their last shirt from ordinary citizens, and in their circle they get by with a light pat on the shoulder.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 34 New
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: apro
      The ruble exchange rate ... one of the methods of robbing the people.

      rob, rob people ....... and in 20 years he became much richer !!!!! ...... wow !!!!!!!
      1. apro
        apro 29 September 2020 13: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: NEOZ
        rob, rob people ....... and in 20 years he became much richer !!!!! ...... wow !!!!!!!

        How is it? And by what parameters?
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 46 New
          -10 qualifying.
          The standard of living, also the level of well-being, the level of consumption is the degree of satisfaction of the material and spiritual needs of people with a mass of goods and services used per unit of time.
          The standard of living is based on the volume of real income per capita and the corresponding volume of consumption.
          The United Nations has recommended a list of living conditions, which together constitute the concept of "living standards":

          Fertility, mortality, life expectancy.
          Sanitary and hygienic living conditions.
          Food consumption level.
          Living conditions.
          Opportunities for education and culture.
          Working conditions and level of employment.
          Balance of income and expenses.
          Consumer prices.
          Transport security.
          Leisure opportunities.
          Social security system.
          Ensuring human rights and freedoms.
          1. apro
            apro 29 September 2020 13: 50 New
            +5
            Yes, probably what you listed was not about me ... my expenses are equal to income ... and consumption has been falling for the last 10 years ...
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 02 New
              -8
              Quote: apro
              and consumption has been falling for the last 10 years ...

              give an example in numbers ... if you can ...
              1. apro
                apro 29 September 2020 14: 06 New
                +5
                Salary from 2008 to 2020 25 rubles. On average. The price level increased 2-3 times. And continues to grow.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 01 New
                  -6
                  Give examples with figures where CONSUMPTION falls !!!!!!!!!
                  consumption of WHAT GOODS has been falling since 2000?
                  ps
                  you gave the example of 2008, why? until 2008 the people were not robbed?
                  maybe the people began to rob right after Putin's Munich speech in 2007?
                  or after 08.08.08? ...
                  give a fact.
                  1. apro
                    apro 29 September 2020 16: 21 New
                    +4
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    give a fact.

                    What country do you live in?
                    1. NEOZ
                      NEOZ 29 September 2020 16: 45 New
                      -3
                      Quote: apro
                      What country do you live in?

                      In the Russian Federation, and you?
                  2. 2 Level Advisor
                    2 Level Advisor 1 October 2020 14: 25 New
                    +1
                    and why should Oleg lead a different period? if he is right, for 10 years, the standard of living is only falling .. what factual do you need? Bring your own consumer goods, which has not become less affordable for an average salary, for 10 years ... (except for the prices for stationary phone communication, it really fell in price due to IP-phone) .. Tell me, is it normal, with inflation? well, let .. why then did salaries rise several times less (and for state employees) than the prices of goods? with what to connect it? maybe with the Crimea? yes, it all started to fall before the Crimea .. except for the fallen world prices for oil and gas products in the region of 2010 - nothing else is suitable for the role of a catalyst for the fall .. can you tell me who is to blame?

                    P.S. interestingly about Ukraine, insert the four-thread in the commentary? laughing
                    1. NEOZ
                      NEOZ 1 October 2020 15: 01 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      If he is right, for about 10 years the standard of living only falls ..

                      and if you take 20 years, it grows !!!!!
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      what facts do you need?

                      where the drop in consumer demand is clearly visible (we do not consider substitute products)
                      Quote: 2 level advisor
                      bring your own consumer goods - which has not become less affordable for an average salary, in 10 years ...

                      1 million 760 thousand new cars sold in 2019
                      1 million 579 thousand new cars sold in 2015
                      1 million 465 thousand new cars sold in 2009
                      1 million 380 thousand new cars sold in 2005
                      less than 1 million new cars sold in 2000
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      why then salaries increased several times less (and for state employees)

                      Have you seen the salaries of state employees for a long time? - Private soldier under contract 45000 rubles!
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      with what to connect it?

                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      except for the falling world prices for oil and gas products in the region of 2010, nothing else is suitable for the role of a catalyst for the fall ..

                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      Can you tell me who is to blame?

                      of course I will!
                      it is necessary to learn the concepts and terms: hard currency / gold reserves / ruble supply / dollar supply / refinancing rate.
                      understand how the national currency rate is formed.
                      ps
                      better, of course, to enter a university and study it in more detail!
                      1. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 1 October 2020 16: 02 New
                        +1
                        1. for 20 years has grown .. so what? and if for 75 years from 1945 take, in general, a hundred times the minimum has grown .. and? a specific question once again - why has it been falling for 10 years, if it is not the price of oil? which was just 10 years from 2000-2010 awesomely worth .. what happened after the fall in prices for it in the country in the year 2010 approximately?
                        2.About cars again .. let's measure the welfare of cars - in the 90s compared to 80s, we also have 2-3 times more cars in the yard - and foreign cars - and mostly German! in your opinion in the 90s it is better than in the 80s 3 times to live all began? but with the 70s, so in terms of the number of cars and 4-5 times better, they began to live in the 90s, right?
                        3. I said about the average salary of state employees, and not about an ordinary who receives 45 (besides, this is with maximum allowances, such percentages are 5 percent of all) .. and if a deputy of the State Duma, he generally receives half a million ... let's say a state employee keep in mind those who are in the majority .. such as teachers, for example, in Kostroma or a doctor in Astrakhan or a specialist in the administration of the Trunovsky District of the Stavropol Territory, this is a more honest sample.
                        4.hm .. you have not yet received any specific answer to specific questions, but you send me to study .. demagoguery is a strong science ..
                      2. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 5 October 2020 11: 01 New
                        0
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        what happened besides the fall in prices for it in the country in the year 2010 approximately?

                        Putin's announcement of the full sovereignty of the Russian Federation (2007) was followed by 080808.
                        sanctions, etc.
                        independence is expensive.
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        let's measure the welfare by machines

                        Well, you don't offer your products, so there will be those that I think are important!
                        by the way, you can compare the market of new cars with other countries over 20 years and see the dynamics of the market growth in the Russian Federation and other countries.

                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        in your opinion in the 90s it is better than in the 80s 3 times to live all began? but with the 70s, so in terms of the number of cars and 4-5 times better, they began to live in the 90s, right?

                        I asked you factual ... but you don't give it !!!!!
                        give your shopping cart, where you can clearly see the drop in consumption.
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        and if a deputy of the State Duma, he gets half a million ...

                        and what? the pilot of the B747 aircraft zp 600 thousand rubles. and what???
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        type of teachers, for example in Kostroma or a doctor in Astrakhan or a specialist in the administration of the Trunovsky district of the Stavropol Territory, this is an honest sample.

                        let's go! the teacher in ds receives 35-40, usually they work in two shifts from 7.00-17.00 in total: 70 thousand. on your hands.
                        teachers have the same ...
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        hmm .. no concrete answer to specific questions from you has yet been, but send to study .. demagoguery is a strong science ..

                        so you yourself cannot back up your words !!!!!
                        again.
                        give an example of a shopping cart where you can clearly see a drop in consumption!
                        also compare the level of consumption of these goods in other countries.
                    2. vlad106
                      vlad106 1 October 2020 18: 54 New
                      +2
                      Quote: NEOZ
                      Can you tell me who is to blame?

                      of course I will!
                      it is necessary to learn the concepts and terms: hard currency / gold reserves / ruble supply / dollar supply / refinancing rate.
                      understand how the national currency rate is formed.
                      ps
                      it is better, of course, to enter a university and study it in more detail


                      hmm! called broke off ...
                      no, you are not Lavrenty Palych. ))
  • parusnik
    parusnik 29 September 2020 05: 46 New
    14
    What a prosperous country we have, it is still growing: production is growing, living standards are growing, prices are rising, the retirement age has gone up! Foreign cultures have taken root, the dollar and the euro are growing! Here it is "agrobiology"! smile
    1. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 29 September 2020 07: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      Foreign cultures have also taken root, the dollar and the euro are growing! Here it is "agrobiology"!

      Only the trouble is, the noodles on the ears stopped taking root.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 08: 21 New
        0
        it still takes root, 80% are still the same
        1. Roman13579
          Roman13579 29 September 2020 10: 44 New
          +1
          Nastenka .. you amaze me more and more .. in a good way now ..))
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 10: 47 New
            -5
            first time pleased Russophobe)))) how to live now?)))))
            1. Roman13579
              Roman13579 29 September 2020 10: 51 New
              0
              You confuse me with someone ..
              I cannot be afraid of the Russians, because one of them himself ..))
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 10: 54 New
                -4
                aren't you here constantly cursing and making fun of Russia?
                1. Roman13579
                  Roman13579 29 September 2020 11: 05 New
                  +1
                  it still takes root, 80% are still the same

                  And who just scolded and laughed at 80% ..
                  1. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 11: 07 New
                    -3
                    no ridicule here
                    1. Roman13579
                      Roman13579 29 September 2020 11: 30 New
                      +3
                      Well yes, of course .. 80% with noodles on their ears .. this is not a mockery of the Russians ..
                      When I write the same thing .. (however, in my opinion, frostbitten Dazdraputs who support the policy of our authorities, where as less than 80%), then they also reproach me for something ..))
                      1. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 26 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Roman13579
                        in my opinion

                        it would be more correct "in the imagination", by the way.
              2. NEOZ
                NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 27 New
                -2
                Quote: Roman13579
                because he himself is one of them ..))

                Ukrainian or what?
            2. NEOZ
              NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 25 New
              -2
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              first time pleased Russophobe)))) how to live now?)))))

              move to Ukraine .... you will heal !!!!!
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 34 New
      -8
      Quote: parusnik
      Here it is "agrobiology"!

      and what are you dissatisfied with?
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 29 September 2020 05: 55 New
    +3
    An article about the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance has already been written. These departments are executing the IMF decree banning ruble investments since the time of Gaidar.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 29 September 2020 06: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: Tank jacket
      These departments are executing the IMF decree banning ruble investments since Gaidar's time.

      So stop. Have we not recently adopted amendments to the Constitution, which were supposed to stop this outrage and restore sovereignty?
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 29 September 2020 10: 53 New
        +5
        I think they not only did not stop, but made it worse.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 35 New
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: Varyag71
          I think

          you need to think with your head ...
      2. BAI
        BAI 29 September 2020 18: 35 New
        +3
        Have we not recently adopted amendments to the Constitution, which were supposed to stop this outrage and restore sovereignty?

        You never know what is written there. They also write a lot on the fence. The Constitution is binding on ordinary citizens, not top officials. No one stopped negotiations on a peace treaty with Japan. And an integral part of the negotiations is the fate of the Kuril Islands. And in the Japanese interpretation it is unambiguous. The law that obliges the Japanese government to fight for the islands has not been canceled in Japan. That is to say - a big hello to the Constitution (the word is what, God forgive me, it reminds girls with reduced social responsibility).
        By the way, about the fence. I saw an inscription on the fence, full of a deep homely meaning, revealing the entire primordial essence of what is happening and the main driving forces of history and something that echoes the topic of the article:
        "EVERYONE WANTS TO EAT A PIECE PIECE!"
        In some cases, the texts on the fence are more meaningful than in government documents.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 29 September 2020 06: 08 New
    10
    The flow of praise from the Bloombergs to the Russian financiers is alarming. Even their "political brother" Navalny does not inspire them as much enthusiasm as "Sister Elvira."
    The usual kidok from 30 to 60 "at the top" did not notice ... "they". But the sausage, transport and "domestic" cars suddenly "caught up with the dollar in 2015. ...

    Probably we are waiting for the usual "stability" of the growth of the supranational currency. For some reason, the legality of such "maneuvers" does not raise questions for anyone.

    The Ministry of Finance is not Kankrin! He cannot (does not want to) create a stable ruble at the expense of internal reserves.
  • Archon
    Archon 29 September 2020 06: 12 New
    +8
    it's good that the bulk of the food is domestically produced.
    as well as Chinese equipment, clothes from China and Bangladesh, vegetables from China.
    In general, I would like the course until 2014.
    And domestic cars of the "Lada" type are not entirely domestic, because. Renault-Nissan makes European models in the Russian way (yes and no, I have a car, there is a great Chinese one).
    In general, if you look for things of domestic production at home, then they are. Glassware, furniture, plastic dishes. But they will be enough for a lifetime, they will survive me. Glassware generally seems to be eternal.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 29 September 2020 08: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Archon
      good that most of the food is domestically produced ...

      It's good that cows don't fly ... wassat
      ... it's good that the bulk of the food produced domestically ... costs so much money, as if it were imported from the Western Hemisphere ...
      However, you are right. Flour, sugar, salt, mineral water, "species diversity" of Russian vegetables and fruits without taste and smell, alcoholic beverages, beer, fish delicacies from China and from the master's table at the price of marbled beef ... - is this not real happiness , isn't this wealth?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 37 New
      -7
      Quote: Archon
      yes and no i have a car

      bu cars can afford even a homeless person !!!!!! are you completely lazy?
      1. Archon
        Archon 1 October 2020 06: 04 New
        +1
        There is an overabundance of cars in the city, 20 minutes walk to work, on the roads people behave at random. Of course, you can purposefully save up for a car, but this will bring more problems than renting a car a couple of times a year.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 1 October 2020 12: 26 New
          -2
          Quote: Archon
          There is a surplus of cars in the city

          what is it from?
          from the fact that the authorities rob the people?
          or is it from hunger?
  • Esoteric
    Esoteric 29 September 2020 06: 14 New
    16
    Of course there is no business. Recently the motherboard in the computer burned down, I went to buy it. A year ago I paid 3 for her to Citylink, and now she is there, exactly the same, 900. And so with all the goods, which is not to take.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 08: 23 New
      -1
      exactly, for 4 years now I can't buy a new laptop, it's a pity to overpay
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 41 New
        -9
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        for sure, I can't buy a new laptop for 4 years

        for 4 years the prices for a laptop with similar characteristics have collapsed !!!!!
        by the way, a mobile phone in 1995 cost $ 500 + $ 1 a minute .... now a mobile phone costs 290 rubles. + 1 rub per minute.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 14: 44 New
          -3
          Why do I need an ancient one ??? I had an excellent laptop with xp, everything flew, but YouTube stopped working. support has passed, installed 7 and now it slows down kapets, they force to buy new equipment, the same with phones
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 29 September 2020 14: 46 New
            -7
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            Why do I need an ancient one ???

            well, you wanted to buy it 4 years ago ...
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            make you buy new equipment,

            not without it...
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 15: 01 New
              -3
              For 4 years I come to the store, but I want to buy not the same one, but more modern and prices are growing in rubles, and Google also makes me get rid of old equipment
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 30 September 2020 14: 24 New
            0
            Whose production of laptop?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 September 2020 13: 38 New
      -6
      Quote: Ezoterik
      And so with all goods, which do not take.

      and what?
      bring countries in which wealth is growing.
  • Far B
    Far B 29 September 2020 06: 15 New
    +9
    fans of sanctions have already had something similar. And forecasts about 100 rubles per euro or dollar, and predictions of the collapse of the entire Russian economy
    And the non-lovers did not have such sanctions ??? Was stability stable, and no instability in the world could destabilize our stability?
    the overwhelming majority of Russians now do not care about exchange rates
    I've heard it somewhere ... Ah, yes! In the same 2014, and then in the 16th year. Like, one fig the vast majority of Russians do not pay with currency in stores. Only (surprise, surprise!) Over the years, the price tags in stores have grown exactly by the percentage by which the ruble's exchange rate has fallen to the dolyar. So maybe the overwhelming majority of Russians really care about the exchange rate, eh? Somehow the mantra got worn out ...
    So the authors are in vain to reassure themselves with these two circumstances. Weak consolation ...
    As for the rest, I completely agree: the ruble is now
    promising exclusively from the point of view of speculative operations
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 29 September 2020 08: 10 New
      +7
      And remember, there was a little scandal (quickly hushed up), when the "sun-faced" wandered into "Auchan" for some kind of goblin and there the Chaldeans quickly changed the price tags for goods before his arrival - the people who turned out to be there at that moment, went nuts from the "rush, for no apparent reason, happiness "-" a total sale at bargain prices of all sorts of nishtyaks ", grabbed goods" for free ", but at the checkout they were waiting for a bummer - the cashier pushed goods at" real "prices. lol
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 29 September 2020 08: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: Dalny V
      I've heard it somewhere ... Ah, yes! In that very 2014, and then in the 16th year. Like, one fig the overwhelming majority of Russians do not pay with currency in stores.

      We even remember 1998:
      1998 year. In March, he was appointed prime minister of the government by Yeltsin. The State Duma approved his candidacy only the third time. The Kiriyenko government managed to work only five months, but the key ones were three days before the default.
      On August 15, 1998, the government, realizing that on August 19, the Ministry of Finance will not be able to pay off the next issue of GKOs worth 34 billion rubles (about $ 5,5 billion), begins to discuss scenarios for restructuring the state debt.
      On August 16, 1998, Kiriyenko came to Boris Yeltsin and agreed with him a scenario of anti-crisis measures, which would imply a waiver of public debt obligations and the devaluation of the ruble.
      On August 17, 1998, the state defaults, recognizing the inability to pay off the debts. The dollar rate in exchange offices immediately after the announcement of the default rises from 6,2 to 9-10 rubles per dollar, while the currency in most exchange offices runs out.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 29 September 2020 06: 21 New
    +1
    I don’t know who to say thank you to, most likely the patience of the people, which has some side effects. In particular, the ability to distract from the secondary in the period of adversity. This certainly includes the currency leapfrog, which was so successfully saddled to create panic. At this time, it is just manna from heaven in the face of an ongoing economic miracle of miracles. Ruble earnings from exports up. The prime cost is already falling at times. Having got tired, we did not have time to beautifully "bring out the goat" with a general rise in prices (well, how did the dollar grow), and if the government and the authorities do not let go of the "control nuts" of our favorite businessmen in terms of prices and tariffs, then this is exactly how we will get rid of the world baconomy ... Immediately and quickly it is necessary to resolve the issue of "pulling in" dollar earnings and its profitable replacement for rubles for business INSIDE the economy. Not a trivial exchange with losses. Maintaining the current trend of a gradual increase in income and control over inflation (but only for real!) Will inevitably give positive success. The main thing is not to let go of the "nuts" of our "merchants". Well, and "moron" not to play, saddle the current situation.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 29 September 2020 06: 50 New
    0
    Shaw say, sho say .... pi pi pi. "Oh yes, some should have a well-sharpened pencil in one place ... adapt.
  • depressant
    depressant 29 September 2020 07: 07 New
    10
    Some people say: I don't have dollars and euros, because I don't care that the ruble is falling. How - to spit? There is not enough saliva, you will not spit. Each product has a currency component. During the crisis of 2008, they destroyed a huge number of their own poultry farms - foreign feed, there was not enough money to buy the dollar that had risen in price, then to buy feed in the right amount. I remember how the poultry women cried, telling reporters about how they threw live chickens into garbage cans on a frosty day.
    And now poultry farming is supposedly revived. Oh really? Here they show chickens at a poultry farm: look what kind of pestles we grow! And the fact that these pies were born from imported eggs is silent! We buy eggs to hatch chickens from them! But we went even further: we buy one-day-old turkeys abroad in order to grow turkeys out of them. Recently in Germany, the Rostov region bought 100 thousand one-day turkey poults for fattening. Leaving aside the question of how many bird souls died during transportation, I will only ask: is there turkey meat on the shelves now? As for me, I haven't seen it for a long time. A year and a half ago it was in bulk. Expensive. Now expensive - chicken. Because now it is expensive - food for her, vitamins, medicines. Overseas. For a currency that has risen in price. So not only chicken will soon rise in price ...
    What I don't care about is the concerns of the stock speculators. They will take their toll, the Central Bank will help.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 29 September 2020 09: 14 New
      +3
      We buy seedlings, and regularly and all from them. Pay attention, the range of fruit and berry products has fallen. There is not a lot. There are few varieties. Compared to totalitarian times.
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 September 2020 09: 54 New
        +2
        Yes, in "totalitarian" times everything was different, and if the stores were not very good, then the markets were bursting with natural products produced on the backyard plots. It was such a small-scale farming.
        And what is interesting, when selling their wheat abroad, they bought Canadian, high-grade. But not because there was not enough of our own, but to meet the needs of the Asians and the Caucasus. They eat tortillas and khachapuri, it doesn't work out of a low-grade one, they were capricious. So they fed their needs on their heads.
        Canadian wheat didn’t take root in our country, we couldn’t zone it. The Russian population ate bread from their own. But even the one that we called gray and with which the Armenians fed their cows, was much better than what they are selling now.
        As for the berries, I haven't even bought one small basket this year - the prices are impressive. Strawberries, raspberries, lingonberries, blueberries, cranberries. Currants - and she passed by. And cranberries are now only garden ones, one must think from imported seedlings, large, they say, the taste is not the same.
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 29 September 2020 09: 56 New
          +3
          And the cranberries are now only garden ones, one must think from imported seedlings, large, they say, the taste is not the same.
          Not at all the same ..
  • acetophenon
    acetophenon 29 September 2020 07: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Pessimist22
    So it is profitable for the capitalists, they sell everything for dollars, and they pay in rubles, their profit increases.

    I work for such a company. 3/4 purchased - for rubles and 100% of products are sold for euros. If not for this, they would have been thrown into the pipe long ago The old owner died, and the heirs ... nature rested well on them.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 29 September 2020 07: 52 New
    +1
    The State Duma proposed to introduce a fine for insulting the ruble.
  • fif21
    fif21 29 September 2020 07: 53 New
    +2
    When trading raw materials, you need to understand that during a crisis, its consumption is minimal. Therefore, the rise in prices, taxes, excise taxes, currency value is inevitable. It remains only to remember the Soviet ruble, which was indifferent to the storms of the world economy. And never cease to be amazed at how effectively the state budget and state reserves are plundered. hi
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 08: 53 New
      +1
      Ага.
      For example, the analysis of budget expenditures for 2019, conducted by the Accounts Chamber, showed that "127 billion rubles allocated for the development of Crimea have virtually disappeared without a trace - the experts did not even manage to assess the effectiveness of the corresponding state program."
      So when will officials be held accountable for failure to fulfill the assigned tasks - so much so that the fate of those involved will make those who have not yet been attracted shudder, and, accordingly, will force them to stop stealing?
      Every day you read: attracted this, this, and they continue to steal as if nothing had happened! So they hit on the hands, not on the pocket. And on hand - it can be tolerated for the sake of the future sweet life.
      I understand that the authorities do not want to strongly strain the vertical, so as not to get angry. But then what she stands on will be angry - the people who have been harnessing for a long time.
      1. your1970
        your1970 29 September 2020 12: 07 New
        -3
        Quote: depressant
        So when will officials be held accountable for failure to fulfill the assigned tasks - so much so that the fate of those involved will make those who have not yet been attracted shudder, and, accordingly, will force them to stop stealing?

        China has been shooting for corruption for 21 years already, more than 100 have been shot, everything they can confiscate ...
        And the Chinese bureaucrats - NOT shudder.
        Those who were 2-3 years old have already become officials - when they began to shoot ...
        Did it help ?? !!!! To be afraid ??? !!!!!
        Yeah, schaz .....
        1. depressant
          depressant 29 September 2020 12: 22 New
          +2
          Yes, human nature is far from perfect, and when it comes to the ruble-dollar ratio, it gets even further)))
          By the way, I figured out what digital money is. I read a bunch of resources. So what are they in physical terms, I did not find the answer. )))
        2. BAI
          BAI 29 September 2020 20: 03 New
          -1
          China has been shooting for corruption for 21 years already, more than 100 have been shot

          Of one billion of the population, this is 0 percent. For 01 years - 21% per year. The mortality rate from flu is many times higher. China simply does not see such a loss. This is a lot for us, nothing for them. 0,002 people a year. Don't even speak seriously (on a Chinese scale).
          1. your1970
            your1970 29 September 2020 20: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: BAI
            China has been shooting for corruption for 21 years already, more than 100 have been shot

            China simply does not see such a loss. This is a lot for us, nothing for them. 4762 people a year. ...
            -When were they shot in stadiums?
            The question is not quantity - the question is quality. If the shot 100 are not scared, then why will a million shot be scared? If they are not afraid of being shot, knowing that they will be slapped?
            Well, besides, you count from the total mass, this is not entirely correct. It is necessary to count from the total number of civil servants
            "From 2008 to 2015, the total number of functionaries in the country was 6,597 million, 6,789 million, 6,894 million, 7,021 million, 7,089 million, 7,171 million, 7,17 million and 7,167 million, respectively."

            "In the first half of 2019, the relevant supervisory disciplinary bodies across the country received 1,6 million complaints and denunciations, carried out more than 168 thousand conversations and written requests, opened over 351 thousand cases, ordered to take action against 254 thousand people, of which 215 thousand received a party penalty, "the document says.
            Last year, 620 people were punished for corruption crimes, including 51 ministerial and provincial officials."
            - and this is a completely different song, each 10-th repeat the official was punished.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 29 September 2020 10: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: fif21
      It remains only to remember the Soviet ruble, which was indifferent to the storms of the world economy.

      at the same time, it is necessary to recall the criminal liability for currency speculation. Thanks to which, for the most part, that stability was ensured.
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 September 2020 10: 34 New
        +4
        Well, we now have a stock exchange, capitalism, however. Large industrialists put their brokers on the stock exchange, profit from insider information from the Central Bank, and through it they withdraw their acquired additionally on the stock exchange abroad.
  • adler87
    adler87 29 September 2020 08: 06 New
    -2
    Author, come to your senses.
  • ALARI
    ALARI 29 September 2020 08: 15 New
    +6
    It looks like the authors receive in dollars for their scribbles, since they do not see how day by day the purchasing power of the ruble breaks through new heights. Again mantras are good for us. But who are we to?
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 29 September 2020 11: 04 New
      +7
      kremlebotam, strenuously minus the truth.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 29 September 2020 08: 23 New
    +1
    At one time they squeaked: abroad will help us. Maybe the fall of the ruble is connected with the attraction of Western investments to Russia? Cheap ruble, cheap labor? Another HPP ..?
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 12: 45 New
      +4
      I've just been to Pyaterochka. I went and was amazed: Negro! Not the two who dart around the village with a displeased look, but a completely new one, in the form of a store, with a mop in their hands - washes the floors. Already at the exit I looked at him, and he walked in the same place with a mop and became, looking sadly into space. How globalism has covered us!
      Someone will say: instead of moaning about unemployment, let our people also wave their mops. No groans, ours are also waving mops. Only not in his native village, but somewhere else. Because here it is a shame: grandfather and grandmother were scientists, parents were engineers, and you were hugging a mop. This is to the question of cheap labor))
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 29 September 2020 13: 00 New
        +2
        This is probably how it goes ... There are a lot of specialists in different fields, there are no jobs. There are no jobs for graduates of vocational schools, I mean working specialties. Our guys with thick leather wallets prefer to export money abroad than to develop production at home. .Hope for foreign uncles with screwdriver production ...
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 29 September 2020 08: 32 New
    +4
    Our main credit institution does not tire of repeating that a too strong ruble is unprofitable for our economy.

    Is she there? What we call the economy is more like the shuttle bazaar of the 90s, only on a national scale. I took dollars, bought clothes in Turkey, sold them at three dollars in Russia, exchanged them for dollars from my hucksters in the market, and again to Turkey for goods. Now the "shuttle traders" are overgrown with fat and sit in the offices of power, not according to the rank of already running with trunks in the bazaars, and then overseas partners have invented digital technologies. Now it's not a sin to cut the dough on the very "wooden" dough. But here's the problem, the "shuttle" in their heads did not go anywhere and sat there firmly, if not forever. So if the bazaar is our economy, then why be surprised? request
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 29 September 2020 09: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      What we call the economy is more like the shuttle bazaar of the 90s, only on a national scale.

      much more annoying is the huge number of foreign supermarkets. It doesn't look like a shuttle bazaar, it looks like capture market, especially when you see waving flags and huge advertisements for Leroy Merlin, IKEA, etc.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 29 September 2020 10: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: aybolyt678
        It's not like a shuttle bazaar, it's like taking over a market

        I was referring to the mantra as the meaning of life "buy and sell", which has been implanted for almost 35 years.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 29 September 2020 14: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          I meant the mantra as the meaning of life "buy and sell"

          now the mantra is different: - buy! buy now, pay later, buy and manage a dream, and no matter where you get it, no matter what you are, what you can, what you dream about, buy and there will be happiness ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 September 2020 20: 30 New
            +3
            Behind the mantra "Buy and you will be happy right now" are hidden lines in a petite, which not all glasses will take. And in those lines - about the bail. Not only business loans, but also consumer loans are given now mainly on the security of something worthwhile, such that the bank can easily sell: a car, refrigerator, TV, apartment. More than a year has passed since the family of policemen from the second floor of my entrance lost their apartment - they borrowed from the bank to open their own business, the money was gone, there was nothing to give the interest, and the apartment was pledged. The bank did not care that the family had this only home, that a small child was evicted at once. Now other people live there.
            Never take money from a bank against a mortgage!
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 29 September 2020 08: 34 New
    0
    The ruble, without any conversion to the effective rate, fell at the exchange rate over the same months by only 4,8% against the euro and by some 2,7% percent against the dollar.

    In our Omsk region, the wholesale purchase price for pork from farmers in August was 120, and now it is 160, I don’t know how this is connected, but it is undoubtedly connected because other factors are not visible. If analysts have 4 percent, but in reality this gives such a plus to production, then let the ruble continue and more laughing falls, pig breeders rejoice
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 10: 23 New
      +4
      Colleague, there are two trends: a drop in foreign exchange earnings to the budget due to a decrease in sales of minerals abroad and a reduction in jobs outside the field of minerals due to the epidemic. It follows that the government cannot support all those in need, which means that purchasing power falls and will fall even more.
      And then it may turn out that there is pork, there is no buyer. It means that there is no need to cut the cattle, but then it will have to be fed, and all the "superprofit" of pig breeders will be spent on this. After all, pigs are not a thing that can be stored.
      Or you have to cut. But to store it already in the form of canned food in factories of the corresponding profile. And since canned food - they can also lie on store shelves when the buyer has no money, will the factories take pigs for slaughter from your farmers?
      You can't feed it.
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 13: 57 New
      0
      I explain why the purchase price has increased so much: before, some of the pork came from abroad, but the fall in its currency makes purchases unprofitable and it becomes more profitable to buy domestically, even if the price rises, plus a small deficit arises, although some components of animal husbandry may still affect imported.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 29 September 2020 08: 47 New
    +6
    Ruble: closer to 100 or 80 per euro?

    I can argue with anyone that neither the euro nor the dollar will give up its positions in relation to the ruble. The economic course chosen by the authorities will not allow this a priori. And an ordinary citizen cannot exert any influence on the government. And soon there will be nothing in the country that used to belong to the people. Therefore, the frames of the famous cartoon will never lose their relevance:
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 29 September 2020 11: 06 New
      +6
      Has this cartoon been declared extremist yet?
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 29 New
        -2
        Quote: Varyag71
        Has this cartoon been declared extremist yet?

        so far only in Ukraine ...
        1. Varyag71
          Varyag71 30 September 2020 13: 32 New
          +2
          In our country, this cartoon is very applicable
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 30 September 2020 14: 16 New
            -2
            Quote: Varyag71
            In our country, this cartoon is very applicable

            is there a country in which it is wrong?
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 14: 00 New
      -4
      As I understand it, you want to return to the times of Yeltsin, when they supported the dollar, killed their industry and lived on loans? I would argue with you, with pleasure, both the euro and the dollar will fall in a month. The fall of its currency is beneficial to a country that imports more than exports, and this is just Russia. Now it is foreign manufacturers who are in panic.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 29 September 2020 15: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        As I understand it, you want to return to the times of Yeltsin

        I don’t understand who you are addressing your question to? Maybe Putin? wassat
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        The fall of its currency is beneficial to the country, which imports more than exports, and this is just Russia.

        How is it, Mikhalych? Speculators are looking for profit ... Yes, they don't care what they import and how much they export. For them: buy cheaper - sell more expensive - is the main principle of activity. And you tell us in detail how the natural resources belonging to the whole people go for cents. Explain the receipt of the benefits and name the persons involved in the profitable acquisition. And we will laugh at you in a personal.
        A sad role is destined for Russia - complete degradation in the economy, education and healthcare. And at the same time, the plundering of the remnants of the former people's (state) property is completed under absolutely any pretext.
        Name the benefits that have gone to ordinary citizens of the country as a result of this whole saga - we will rejoice together.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 29 September 2020 08: 59 New
    +2
    But the latter today almost vied with each other that the ruble is one of the most promising currencies in the world. Provided with boundless Russian resources above the roof, besides, backed up by colossal reserves of both the state and its Central Bank, a state one, albeit to the envy of an independent one.

    Independent from whom is not so important. From whom it is necessary, from that and independent, if we follow the logic of the brave soldier Schweik, this sage who in a strange way found himself in a madhouse. Today, you see, a place in this institution should have been taken by very many of the "helmsmen", but the right to control, alas, still remains with them.


    Strange sarcasm in the words of the authors.
    You, I mean the citizens of the Russian Federation, voted and approved for it yourself. We read article 75 of the "Constitution of the Russian Federation" (adopted by a popular vote on 12.12.1993 with amendments approved during a nationwide vote on 01.07.2020):
    1. The monetary unit in the Russian Federation is the ruble. Monetary issue is carried out exclusively by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation are not allowed.
    2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it carries out independently of other public authorities. <...>
    (Highlighted by me)


    .... the overwhelming majority of Russians now do not care about exchange rates. .... It is much more important that prices inside the country do not creep up.

    How is it, no matter?
    Prices are creeping, and how!
    Here, Russia is "ahead of the rest! We discussed this last Thursday in an article with a crooked heading" Food prices in Russia have grown three times higher than in the European Union. "
    Today Russia ranks 1st in the world in terms of inflation. (EU 10th, US 11th)

    In the long term, the situation looks even worse:
    Russia
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 3,57%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 22,91%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 86,77%

    EC
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 1,57%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 6,31%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 16,14%

    USA
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 2,28%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 9,44%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 19,00%

    Source: https://www.statbureau.org
    1. MMX
      MMX 29 September 2020 13: 50 New
      -3
      Today Russia ranks 1st in terms of inflation in the world. (EU 10th, US 11th)


      Surprisingly, first place and the inflation rate is lower than in the last 12 months ...
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 14: 10 New
      -4
      I will surprise you, but it is not inflation that is terrible, but deflation. Inflation is considered the engine of progress, there is nothing without it. By the way, there is no such EU state. Do you know why Russia is ranked 1st in inflation? I will surprise you once again: there are more than 200 countries in the world and there are countries with 12,15, 50% inflation. It's just that the world is flat for you and there are less than half of the countries on Earth on it (even Turkey was removed from the map). Russia is 119th place, somewhere in the middle, but the coolest thing is that the very poor countries of Burkina Faso and Niger are at the beginning of the rating, they have minus 4%.
      The whole trouble of people like you, analysts, is that you take the figure out of context and rush with it.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 29 September 2020 14: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        I will surprise you, but it is not inflation that is terrible, but deflation. Inflation is considered the engine of progress, there is nothing without it. By the way, there is no such EU state. Do you know why Russia is ranked 1st in inflation? I will surprise you once again: there are more than 200 countries in the world and there are countries with 12,15, 50% inflation. It's just that the world is flat for you and there are less than half of the countries on Earth on it (even Turkey was removed from the map). Russia is 119th place, somewhere in the middle, but the coolest thing is that the very poor countries of Burkina Faso and Niger are at the beginning of the rating, they have minus 4%.
        The whole trouble of people like you, analysts, is that you take the figure out of context and rush with it.


        Dear Viktor Sergeev, I use materials from the Novosibirsk State University of Economics and Management:
        https://research-journal.org/economical/analiz-i-ocenka-inflyacionnyx-processov-v-rossii/
        More popular, here:
        Inflation rate in the Russian Federation in 2020
        https://www.statbureau.org/ru/russia/inflation#:~:text=%D0%92%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%20%D1%81%20%D1%8D%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BC%2C%20%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D1%81,%D0%BF%D0%BE%20%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8E%20%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8%20%D0%B2%20%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5.

        I cannot afford to compare not just the poor, but the formally poor countries - Burkina Faso and Niger with Russia, excuse me. hi
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 35 New
        -2
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        The whole trouble of people like you, analysts, is that you take the figure out of context and rush with it.

        this is not a problem, but a provocation designed for people with little education ... unfortunately, there are many of them ...
        By the way, if inflation in the US is 10%, does this mean that the world supply of dollars has increased by 10%?
        respectively, and prices have increased in ALL countries by at least 10%?
    3. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 29 September 2020 14: 52 New
      -3
      well, it seems not so scary)))) usa 19 we have 86
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  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 29 September 2020 09: 03 New
    +9
    ... And the second is that the overwhelming majority of Russians now do not care about exchange rates.

    The author obviously believes that the majority of Russians are unable to understand the dependence of the ruble prices for food and goods on the exchange rate of the dollar and the euro.
    The author is somewhat mistaken ...
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 14: 13 New
      0
      The author believes that no one is tracking the exchange rate of the ruble, and prices rise at any rate, thanks to sanctions, may they be blessed, most products and clothes are now produced in Russia, although iPhone fanatics are probably crying. So, the author is absolutely not mistaken. If anyone is howling, then foreign manufacturers.
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 29 September 2020 14: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        If anyone is howling, then foreign manufacturers.

        Yes, foreign manufacturers do not care about our problems. They will feel bad without us, but they will not bend.
        And we will not bend without expensive imports, at least sandals are not banned yet.
        Although the obligatory labeling of shoes has already been introduced, the tax on bast shoes has been paid and run, enjoy domestic shoes
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 September 2020 19: 00 New
          -5
          To lose 147 million market of the fifth economy in the world is a powerful blow to business for any foreign manufacturer.
        2. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 20: 44 New
          -3
          Y
          Quote: Qwertyarion
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          If anyone is howling, then foreign manufacturers.

          Yes, foreign manufacturers do not care about our problems. They will feel bad without us, but they will not bend.
          And we will not bend without expensive imports, at least sandals are not banned yet.
          Although the obligatory labeling of shoes has already been introduced, the tax on bast shoes has been paid and run, enjoy domestic shoes

          The problem is not ours, but theirs, since it is their products that are losing the Russian market. I see a man walking in Brijuni in front of us? Yes, I wear domestic footwear, at least Belarusian, of excellent quality, and you wear Italian (Chinese) and drag yourself out of it. Would you like to list shoe manufacturers from Russia and Belarus, or will you look for it yourself?
          1. Qwertyarion
            Qwertyarion 30 September 2020 03: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Victor Sergeev
            List for you

            No need to poke "respected" learn to be polite (at least try to move in that direction)
            With regards to domestic footwear, there is every reason to believe that it is very often made from Chinese materials.
            For example, you can inquire about the import component of the Russian gazelle car, you will be surprised.
            Even the bottle of milk on the shelf in the store has an imported ingredient.
            1. Viktor Sergeev
              Viktor Sergeev 30 September 2020 08: 05 New
              -2
              And no one argues about the import component, only this has little effect on the rise in prices. And I will also surprise you, but the percentage of production of our own things is really growing, which was bought earlier in the West and the reason is, among other things, the fall in the ruble exchange rate. It was not for nothing that the United States ran into China when it lowered the yuan's exchange rate. By the way, I will surprise you, in our milk there are practically no imported components, perhaps some antibiotics, but this is minuscule.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 38 New
      -2
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      The author is somewhat mistaken ...

      the author is 100% right.
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      most Russians are unable to grasp the dependence of ruble prices for food

      food consumption does not depend on price increases, just as the ruble exchange rate does not depend on oil prices!
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 September 2020 09: 57 New
    +2
    The picture in the article with the ruble logo is a masterpiece. laughing We have a resource in our country that is more valuable than natural resources. People! You can still peel off more than one skin from them.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 12: 52 New
      +3
      But how! The second oil, which does not need to be sold abroad, but can be used right here on the spot.
      But then it turned out that the citizens of Russia - expensive oil, there are cheaper ones, and they began to import migrants.
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 29 September 2020 10: 40 New
    +2
    And the second is that the overwhelming majority of Russians now do not care about exchange rates.

    It is much more important that prices within the country do not rise up.

    Two contradictions in one paragraph ..
    Of course, for those who like to eat only bread, it's okay .. As for the rest - from any electronics and household appliances, ending with clothes and Chinese goods from the "Order" store - everything grows along with the bucks .. Cars, of course, are the same ..
  • Esaul
    Esaul 29 September 2020 12: 13 New
    +3
    While the Central Bank rules, it will continue to steal from the population, dropping the ruble to cover cheap hydrocarbons. Indeed, with a cheap ruble, it is only profitable to pump hydrocarbons to the border, but our government has been the main sphere of activity for 20 years, so the impoverishment of the common population will continue further until oil is again more than $ 100 per barrel. Then the power, you see, crumbs from their table will begin to brush off the population.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 12: 54 New
      +2
      Colleague, let me clarify: what offshore population?
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 29 September 2020 13: 53 New
    -3
    Europe and the United States are howling. Exports to Russia are quite scanty, but imports from Russia have not gone anywhere. A strengthening of the currency for any exporting country seems to be bad.
  • Quasipatriot
    Quasipatriot 29 September 2020 14: 30 New
    -1
    Here it is accessible and clearly explained to whom to say thank you for the "strong ruble", "the growth of welfare and the economy" and other "spiritually strong" tales:
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 September 2020 19: 02 New
      -5
      Someone's brain escaped from the "crumpled cabin"
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 42 New
      -2
      Quote: Quasipatriot
      Here it is available and clearly explained,

      ah, e-mayo!
      I thought that in order to understand something it is necessary: ​​to finish school / university / postgraduate studies with excellent marks for a long time to work on the studied subject ...
      but it turns out you can just watch the video on YouTube !!!!
      thanks! did not know!!!!
      I'll tell everyone this life hack !!!!!!!!
  • Suslin
    Suslin 29 September 2020 14: 58 New
    +2
    If American experts admire the ruble exchange rate, then something is wrong with the ruble. They also amicably scold the Chinese yuan, which means everything is in order with the yuan.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 September 2020 15: 41 New
    -1
    The cost of oil and gas was lowered ...
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 29 September 2020 16: 34 New
    -1
    The only way:
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 September 2020 17: 02 New
    +1
    Well, with speculators it is understandable - the collapse, the purchase and resale of assets at a high price to the owner. And why can't they come up with an effective rebuff to such actions?
  • BAI
    BAI 29 September 2020 18: 03 New
    +4
    The ruble exchange rate is not based on anything. He's purely speculative. There was a "computer" course, now "oil", there were others. The Moscow Exchange trades a percentage of the total currency in circulation in the Russian Federation. And these fractions of a percent determine everything. Therefore, it does not take much effort to influence the ruble exchange rate. You just need to buy or intervene the dollar on the Moscow Exchange. Even Soros's money is enough to make everything collapse. Someone on the stock exchange will throw off a million, and the population will rush to withdraw billions from banks. Because - there is no trust in either the government or, accordingly, the ruble. Too often people have been deceived in the past 30 years. Trust will have to be restored in a much longer time.
  • iouris
    iouris 29 September 2020 19: 51 New
    -4
    Right now, one should not think about the ruble, but about eternal values ​​(if any).
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 September 2020 20: 43 New
      +2
      Colleague, there are eternal values, but they are expensive, they have become inaccessible, like a museum rarity, they are bought for a lot of money, because times are such that everything has a price. However, the ruble - albeit cheap, but more and more for a number of reasons begins to pull on a museum exhibit, without becoming an eternal value)))
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 30 September 2020 12: 44 New
        0
        Quote: depressant
        there are eternal values, but they are expensive, they have become inaccessible as a museum rarity

        Why don't you have something that everyone had before?
        1. depressant
          depressant 30 September 2020 13: 46 New
          0
          But I have no material value of several hundred rubles, the true value of which is the fate of a person.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 30 September 2020 14: 15 New
            -2
            Quote: depressant
            whose true value is the fate of a person.

            this is to the doctor ...
            1. depressant
              depressant 30 September 2020 16: 00 New
              0
              NEOZ, darling, you just don't know what exactly you are trying to evaluate.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 30 September 2020 16: 23 New
                -2
                Quote: depressant
                You just don't know

                not excluded!
      2. iouris
        iouris 30 September 2020 13: 34 New
        -1
        Quote: depressant
        Colleague, there are eternal values, but they are expensive,

        Yeah. Just like in the famous joke.
        Do you have decent women?
        There is. But they are SO expensive.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 September 2020 14: 18 New
          0
          Considering the whims of decent women, especially now, I must admit that they are very expensive.
          1. depressant
            depressant 30 September 2020 16: 01 New
            0
            Yes, they put life on the counter))
  • solzh
    solzh 29 September 2020 22: 16 New
    +7
    Ruble: closer to 100 or 80 per euro?

    In the New Year area, a little more than 100 rubles will be given for one euro. yes