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Spinning and a plastic bottle: the Dutch were shown a "secret" Ukrainian technology at the Dnieper gateway

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Spinning and a plastic bottle: the Dutch were shown a "secret" Ukrainian technology at the Dnieper gateway

The new draft law on inland waterway transport, which caused a lot of noise in Ukraine, will be considered in the Verkhovna Rada in the second reading on September 30. If accepted, it will revolutionize the country's transport industry.


This opinion was expressed by the People's Deputy from the Servant of the People party Artem Kovalev in an interview with the Ukrainian news agency UNIAN.

True, according to the deputy of the Rada, now the river transport infrastructure in Ukraine is in a deplorable state. This became noticeable after getting acquainted with the experience and achievements of European countries. This is especially true for Germany and the Netherlands, where shipping is very developed.

Kovalev believes that in order to increase the cargo turnover of Ukrainian water transport, it is necessary to more actively use the large river routes - the Dnieper, Danube, and Southern Bug. But this is hampered by two factors: "killed" infrastructure and the lack of a sufficient number of cargo river vessels.

The infrastructure issue is especially acute. For example, the deterioration of the Dnieper locks reaches 75 percent. It is necessary to urgently carry out their repair and work to deepen the bottom. It is also important to maintain the information infrastructure and navigation equipment in working order, because all this is directly related to the safety of river navigation.

The only thing that Ukraine can boast of in this industry is the resourcefulness of its employees, who have to be smart in their daily work. On this occasion, the deputy told about an incident that occurred during a study trip of Dutch specialists on water bodies in Ukraine.

When a delegation from the Netherlands inspected the dilapidated Kiev lock on the Dnieper, a funny incident happened to it. Climbing to the sixth floor of a building without an elevator, which had not been repaired for decades, foreigners noticed a strange device and asked for an explanation of its purpose. The device was a spinning rod with an empty plastic bottle tied to a line. The device turned out to be a "secret" Ukrainian development. It turned out that it was a means of communication intended for receiving and transmitting documentation. In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be placed in it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back.

In such a simple way, the workflow was carried out.

Artyom Kovalev is sure that the deplorable state of the river transport infrastructure can and should be improved. For this, a new bill must be adopted.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 28 September 2020 12: 20 New
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    In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be put into it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back.
    21st century, however ...
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 28 September 2020 12: 29 New
      +7
      Quote: Lesovik
      In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be put into it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back.
      21st century, however ...

      Gol on inventions of cunning.

      But they came up with great! Probably ours, hare!
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 28 September 2020 12: 44 New
        +6
        It would be better if zapadenskih Selyuk were brought to their senses than to engage in "rationalization".
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 29 September 2020 04: 27 New
          -2
          Quote: Captive
          It would be better if they brought the Zapadensky Seluk to life
          But as? They are at the helm there now.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 28 September 2020 14: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Olgovich
        But they came up with great! Probably ours, hare!

        A Russian person will not step on himself. You can roll up your documents and put them in a bottle. And back how? Cut the bottle? So from there.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 28 September 2020 15: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: Polite Elk
          A Russian person will not step on himself. You can roll up your documents and put them in a bottle. And back how? Cut the bottle? So from

          No one will fold anything into a tube: a square bottle is cut along the length and you get an excellent case
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 28 September 2020 15: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: Olgovich
            the square bottle is notched along the length and you get a great case

            Exactly! And also good sneakers are obtained from plastic bottles.
      3. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 28 September 2020 16: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: Olgovich
        Goal for fiction is cunning.

        All inventions from laziness! I just didn't feel like running from the first to the sixth floors. repeat
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 September 2020 12: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Lesovik
      lifted back on the line.

      Well, do not run from the sixth floor and back! belay
      1. pmkemcity
        pmkemcity 28 September 2020 12: 44 New
        13
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Well, do not run from the sixth floor and back!

        Nothing new. One year that way, in 95, at the Kedrovsky open-pit mine, I "bought" a car of coal right from under the excavator. At first I thought - how difficult it is to be an excavator! Run from a fifteen-meter height every time for a bottle! And then I look - he pulls my shopping bag on a string!
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 28 September 2020 14: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Well, do not run from the sixth floor and back!

        Well yes. They are not looking for easy ways there. It is not destiny to locate the department dealing with the processing of documents on the 1st floor or in the basement.
    3. credo
      credo 28 September 2020 12: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Lesovik
      In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be put into it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back.
      21st century, however ...

      I wouldn't scoff.
      Apparently, the financing is quite deplorable, since this method is used.
      The easiest way was to repair the elevator or install the system as in banks or shopping centers for sending money in tubes through pipes, but there is no money and in order not to run from the 1st to the 6th floor and back, I would probably also use this lifting method to the fullest.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 28 September 2020 12: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: credo
        Apparently, the financing is quite deplorable, since they use this method

        I understand ... And this is not a mockery - this is irony. And the bitter irony ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 September 2020 13: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Lesovik
          And this is not a mockery - this is irony. And the bitter irony ...

          Mockery or irony, but they ruined the "river", like everyone else.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 28 September 2020 12: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: credo
        The easiest way was to repair the elevator or install a system like in banks or shopping centers for sending money in tubes through pipes

        As far as I understand, the option of transferring data through computer networks is not even considered?
        1. Brylevsky
          Brylevsky 28 September 2020 13: 27 New
          11
          Not in this case. Electronic document circulation in the daily operation of the vessel takes place, but for registration of the “arrival” of the vessel in the port or the passage of the vessel by the channel, “live” signatures of the captain on the corresponding forms of documents are required. Electronic signature is not accepted ... In addition, a real imprint of the ship's seal is required. This "news" is not news at all. Everywhere the problem of "live signature and printing" on the forms of documents is solved in the same way: if the document cannot be passed from hand to hand through the side of the ship, then either a line-guide with a container for documents is used, or a "fishing rod" - a rather long pole with a rope at the end , to which, again, the document container is attached. In the port, this is how various receipts are transferred to the ship on forms of strict accountability: mooring receipts, receipts for tugboat services, receipts for the delivery of garbage ashore ... In the same Rotterdam, receipts for the delivery of garbage are transferred from a garbage barge to a ship ... All this is old a maritime practice equally applied in all the world's fleets.
      3. Simargl
        Simargl 29 September 2020 04: 34 New
        -2
        Quote: credo
        or install the system as in banks or shopping centers for sending money in tubes through pipes
        So the pipes and the compressor are blocked. They will also stop working.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 September 2020 12: 21 New
    +3
    But this is hampered by two factors: "killed" infrastructure and the lack of a sufficient number of cargo river vessels.

    If you never do this in 30 years, then there will be nothing living there. Hollows. Ugh.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2020 12: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      If you never do this in 30 years, then there will be nothing living there.

      First of all, when the Svidomye came to power, they cut into metal the entire huge river fleet. It is badly poor, but the water utility can still be restored, but where to get hundreds of units of river vessels is a question. Netherbrooks, "Throw Emelya your week."
  3. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 28 September 2020 12: 30 New
    14
    poor fellows, they fed all of Russia, and how they stopped kapets came some kind of fantasy
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 28 September 2020 13: 16 New
      +1
      They are already mad with fat! Is it easy to run on a full stomach on the sixth floor? ))
  4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 September 2020 12: 33 New
    +1
    river transport infrastructure in Ukraine is in a deplorable state

    I wonder if there is any infrastructure in Ukraine that is NOT in a deplorable state.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 28 September 2020 13: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      I wonder if there is any infrastructure in Ukraine that is NOT in a deplorable state.

      hi
      There is - "blah-blah-blah" In the Old Church Slavonic dialect). bully
  5. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 28 September 2020 12: 33 New
    +8
    You can certainly laugh. Yes, it seems that in the rest of the republics of the former USSR, things are not better, in this industry, including Russia. Dredging is also not carried out, river ports work half-way, except that things are better with document flow ... And the root cause, the collapse of the USSR. They created the CIS, what's the point? Where is this commonwealth? Then, at the end of the USSR, they squeaked, here we grab our own, and then how will we begin to make friends, in reality, without communist ideology, on the basis of honest capitalist relations, how can we not feed each other ... And ...? They are ready to kill each other, or they kill each other ... And as they say, nothing personal, just business.
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 28 September 2020 12: 43 New
    0
    21st century is a century of contrasts. laughing
  7. Kushka
    Kushka 28 September 2020 12: 44 New
    +7
    To Archimedes, famous for the invention of amazing
    mechanisms, eminent men somehow came to visit.
    With great difficulty overcame the gate and spoke
    about this - what kind of inventor are you?
    But what got the answer - when you entered, uploaded
    20 liters of water in my shower, when you leave, pump
    the same amount.
  8. prior
    prior 28 September 2020 12: 51 New
    -1
    The children approached the problem of transferring documents creatively.
    The boat has passed, you change the bottle for a spoon and you can catch the Dnieper fish until the next boat. In the area of ​​the locks, the peck should be good.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 September 2020 17: 30 New
      0
      Quote: prior
      you change the bottle to a spoon and you can catch the Dnieper fish until the next boat.

      there are no fish left there!
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 September 2020 12: 52 New
    -1
    Artyom Kovalev is sure that the deplorable state of the river transport infrastructure can and should be improved.
    Tie a bucket instead of a plastic bottle.
    1. Brylevsky
      Brylevsky 28 September 2020 13: 40 New
      +4
      A document from a bucket can be blown out by a gust of wind; without a sealed lid it can be soaked in the rain ... You are a sailor yourself, even though you are a former - why are you joking? Do not remember how documents were transferred to your trawler from a bunkering tanker? Or how did the third and second officers send sailors from the tank or stern to the bridge so that those receipts for mooring and tugboats would be signed by you? I have been going at sea for 20 years, everywhere, either a guide, or a "fishing rod", nothing else has been invented ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 September 2020 13: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Brylevsky
        I have been going at sea for 20 years, everywhere, either a guide, or a "fishing rod", nothing else has been invented.

        It's hard to shake out the invoice from the bottle, we made a pencil case with a cork for this, it is very convenient, but you can put an invoice in a mitten and a bolt, cheap and cheerful, here's an innovation for Svidomo.
  10. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 28 September 2020 13: 04 New
    +1
    the deplorable state of the river transport infrastructure can and should be improved. For this, a new bill must be adopted.
    This requires capital investments - either state (but there is no money in the treasury), or private (but this requires a stable and constantly growing demand for river cargo transit, plus the transfer of river navigation infrastructure facilities to private hands (but I don’t think that there is a great demand in Ukraine for river cargo transportation, but they can try to sell everything to private traders)
  11. Avior
    Avior 28 September 2020 13: 19 New
    0
    communication means intended for receiving and transmitting documentation. In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be put in it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back

    Regular life smile
  12. orionvitt
    orionvitt 28 September 2020 13: 20 New
    +2
    lack of a sufficient number of cargo river vessels.
    Make a mistake, as in that joke.
    Why don't you get a river connection?
    There are 42 reasons for this. First, there are no ships. List the rest? laughing
  13. Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 28 September 2020 13: 37 New
    +2
    "the deplorable state of the river transport infrastructure can and should be improved" ie make it even worse?
  14. Phoenix
    Phoenix 28 September 2020 14: 17 New
    +1
    It's such a secret that the Panama Canal and ship-to-ship operations do the same thing ...
  15. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 28 September 2020 14: 18 New
    +2
    It is urgent to carry out their repair and work to deepen the bottom. It is also important to maintain the information infrastructure and navigation equipment in working order, because all this is directly related to the safety of river navigation.
    Where is the money, Zin? The draft budget for 2021 for defense plans to finance 5,92% of GDP. Not every rich country can afford it, but the Outskirts, apparently the richest country in Europe.
  16. monster
    monster 28 September 2020 14: 27 New
    0
    Forward protokry! Forward adherents of bandera! Break up EVERYTHING!
  17. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 28 September 2020 15: 11 New
    0
    and what, personally, I like, everything is simple and effective
  18. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 September 2020 15: 52 New
    0
    In front of the passing ship, a bottle is lowered on a fishing line from the sixth floor so that the documents necessary for registration of the passage can be put into it, after which the container on the fishing line was raised back.
    Necessity for inventions is cunning (Russian proverb).
  19. boris epstein
    boris epstein 28 September 2020 16: 37 New
    0
    Already in the distant 70s of the 20th century, we used a homemade pneumatic tube. The motor from the vacuum cleaner, the pipe, the foam glass - and forward, from the first floor to the third. Down fell under its own weight. But in the 21st century, pneumatic mail is not destiny.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 28 September 2020 21: 15 New
      0
      You are wrong, the construction supermarket chain
      "Epicenter", and some of them as small
      n.p. - at each checkout.
  20. Rzzz
    Rzzz 28 September 2020 21: 14 New
    0
    I, having worked all my life on the river, now do not understand, why the heck is this nonsense with a bottle.
    Our ship does not bother with documents at all. Passed and passed. The task of the shipowner is to conclude in advance either a navigation contract for the entire season, or to submit a one-time application. Upon passage, all the necessary reporting is generated and goes to the shipowner for payment.
    1. Brylevsky
      Brylevsky 30 September 2020 00: 27 New
      0
      I, having worked all my life on the river, now do not understand, why the heck is this nonsense with a bottle.
      Our ship does not bother with documents at all. Passed and passed.

      Did you cross the state border at the same time? The procedure for registering the arrival and departure of a vessel during coastal voyages and abroad is significantly different ...
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 30 September 2020 07: 40 New
        0
        The ship goes along the river with an open border. All papers are issued at the entrance port (the same Rostov), ​​and then in free mode. Nothing is formalized on the gateways. And it never took shape.
        Moreover, most of the river traffic does not go out to sea at all.
  21. Megatron
    Megatron 30 September 2020 00: 44 New
    0
    In our river fleet, things are not much better.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 30 September 2020 07: 44 New
      0
      Yes, everything is fine. What exactly do you dislike?
      Of course there is superfluous bureaucracy, yes. But she's not that tense.