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Born on fire. Modern countries that would not exist without wars

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It would seem that a geographical map in our time is an established and practically unchanging thing. Nevertheless, already in the XNUMXst century, a number of states appeared on it that did not exist before. A common feature uniting almost all of these countries is that they were born as a result of armed conflicts.


The dwarf Sint Maarten and Curacao, the former colonies of the Netherlands in the Caribbean Sea, which received their own statehood in 2010 (even if and in a somewhat curtailed form: Amsterdam is still responsible for their defense and foreign policy) as a result of the usual agreements. Curacao is a really large island with a population of one hundred and fifty thousand people, and Sint Maarten is a "tiny little" with an area of ​​35 square kilometers, on which 40 thousand souls live.

It is completely anecdotal история with the advent of North Macedonia. Here, generally speaking, we are not talking about the formation of a state, but only about changing the name. This territory broke away from Yugoslavia without problems back in 1991. Terribly offended by the "theft of the historical name" of one of their own provinces, the Greeks "got" the Macedonians for a long time and stubbornly, putting spokes in their wheels on the way to the European Union and making other intrigues. Last year, the country's inhabitants surrendered, and now it is called not the Republic of Macedonia, but North Macedonia. There was a reason to break spears ...

With East Timor, things were much more dramatic. Having barely got rid of the status of a Portuguese colony (1975), the local residents learned that they were now citizens of Indonesia. They did not really like it, but the USA and Australia sided with the desire to acquire the 27th province of Jakarta, with great enthusiasm they threw firewood into the fire of the conflict that broke out in the country, where the occupiers were on the one hand, and on the other - local rebels.

The case ended with a 1999 referendum on the self-determination of the region, in which almost 80% of the population voted for its independence. Violence in the country did not just stop, but even increased, and in reality, East Timor separated from Indonesia only in 2002, after the appearance of the UN peacekeeping contingent there. However, the international police force had to be brought into the country in 2006-2007, when bloody chaos reigned in it again. People do not live in peace ...

The Sudanese armed conflict, during which the inhabitants of the South and North of this country mercilessly exterminated each other, lasted 17 years (the first civil war), and then flared up with renewed vigor in the 80s of the last century and lasted with varying success for another good two decades. In its most simplified form, it was an irreconcilable confrontation between southern Arabs, professing Islam, and black northerners, who categorically did not want to live according to Sharia law.

The Sudan People's Liberation Army, created by them, achieved the fact that in 2005 the region received autonomy, and in 2011 it was recognized as a fully independent state. Tellingly, a Kalashnikov assault rifle flaunts on the flag of this organization. By the way, he is also present in the coat of arms of East Timor. This, of course, allows us to talk about the significant contribution of Russian military design thought to the process of gaining independence by some countries.

The rest of the states that have officially settled on the globe already in this century, in fact, like Macedonia, are fragments of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, which first disintegrated and then finally perished under NATO missile and bomb attacks and the pressure of local separatist movements, all the same alliance supported. Even after the disintegration of the SFRY, Montenegro was kept under the same roof with Serbia, but after the 1999 war, the process of disintegration began, leading to a referendum in 2006, as a result of which it finally separated from Belgrade and acquired an independent status.

Accordingly, after this "divorce", a state such as the Republic of Serbia took shape. I would like to say "definitively", but the Kosovo issue hinders this. In 2008, Kosovo, with its “capital” in Pristina, with the connivance and instigation of the West, also declared itself an “independent state,” with which Belgrade strongly disagree (by the way, in Moscow, too). Today, the Republic of Kosovo can boast of the official recognition of either 115, or a little more of the 195 countries that make up the UN, and will achieve full sovereignty, judging by the spineless policy of the Serbian leadership, in the very near future.

In conclusion, it is impossible not to mention several more geographical names that have appeared in the smoke and flames of local conflicts already in the XNUMXst century. They belong to the category of "unrecognized states", but this does not prevent them from courageously defending their own freedom and independence, resisting attempts by neighbors to force them to obedience with fire and sword. We are talking, of course, about Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics. Who knows, it is quite possible that on future geographical maps they will also take their rightful place, paid in blood.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 September 2020 18: 06 New
    +1
    Didn't know about the first two new countries mentioned. Thank you for that.
  2. phake
    phake 28 September 2020 18: 46 New
    +7
    Transnistria ??? Nagorno-Karabakh?
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 29 September 2020 04: 43 New
      0
      Only from football news I learned about a country like the Faroe Islands !!!
      Bangladesh also broke away from Pakistan by armed means.
      1. Lycan
        Lycan 29 September 2020 14: 27 New
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        The Faroe Islands are part of the Kingdom of Denmark, although since 1948 many states. issues are resolved independently.
  3. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 28 September 2020 18: 47 New
    +2
    In the near future, new states will appear on the globe, if some of the existing ones do not calm down.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 28 September 2020 20: 56 New
      +1
      What are you, colleague? If about the "Independent Texas Republic", then I agree with you one hundred percent and with both hands for the independence of the Texans. smile But here the question may arise about both the "temporarily occupied territories" and the "Independent Federation of South Sakhalin", I somehow do not want to agree with this.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 28 September 2020 21: 11 New
        +3
        In addition to Texas, there are those who want to go to Florida and California. Catalonia and Scotland in Europe are also hoofed.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 28 September 2020 22: 07 New
          +1
          You can add Ireland because of Brexit. hi
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 28 September 2020 22: 12 New
          +1
          Well, here, as they say - "God bless them." smile We'll see. laughing
  4. iouris
    iouris 28 September 2020 19: 13 New
    +1
    War is one thing, aggression is another. The United States is successfully crushing large states and has reached the limit. Integration processes will begin soon.
    1. dauria
      dauria 28 September 2020 19: 41 New
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      Integration processes will begin soon.


      Yeah. A big prince comes to a small one and makes an offer "Either you work and fight under my strict guidance, or you hang on the gate. I will provide the new prince." The small one either agrees with this big one, or runs to another big one on the same terms. Since the days of ancient Egypt, all integration has been happening like that. That is why when the big prince grows decrepit, all the little ones remember that they are the descendants of the great Martians who lived independently.
      Until another major one appears with the proposal "Either you work and fight under mine .....", etc.
  5. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 28 September 2020 20: 21 New
    -1
    Terribly offended by the "theft of the historical name" of one of their own provinces, the Greeks "got" the Macedonians long and hard, sticking a spoke in their wheels on the way to the European Union


    And now the Greeks are behind and we have put sticks in the ass. The author is completely unclear with the history of the region. Russians are offended when they are told that Russia is the history of Ukraine and they are Muscovy. And here we have the same problems with the Greeks with Macedonia - they have existed for 20 years and they steal our and the Greeks' history. And our language was also stolen and turned into some sort of seluchian dialect, which is both funny and ridiculous to hear ...
    1. Dude
      Dude 28 September 2020 21: 30 New
      +5
      Russians are offended when they are told that Russia is the history of Ukraine and they are Muscovy.

      Dear Bulgarian friend, you speak, speak, but do not start talking. Should I give you a history textbook? Good, still Soviet edition. And then, as I can see, in your education, there are very big problems! winked
      And here we have the same problems with the Greeks with Macedonia - they have existed for 20 years and they steal our and the Greeks' history.
      laughing
      Famously Bulgarian to the ancient Greeks clinging to!
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 28 September 2020 22: 52 New
        +3
        Here it is necessary to clarify that different stages are being stolen. Among the Greeks, the antiquity among the Bulgarians, the Middle Ages, and then the Bulgarian fighters with the Ottomans become "Macedonian". With the world to the thread of a poor shirt, so this new formation is history.
        1. Dude
          Dude 29 September 2020 05: 23 New
          0
          Here it is necessary to clarify that different stages are being stolen.
          Are you talking about the First Bulgarian Kingdom?
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 08: 32 New
            +1
            I was not interested in the chronology of the origin of Bulgaria as a Balkan state, I cannot say from which kingdom they are stealing what. One thing I can say for sure is Tsar Simeon, this is the figure that the "Macedonians" claim. Dolche Gelev let the Bulgarians correct me. This one of the heroes of the Bulgarian War of Independence also raises doubts among the “Macedonians”.
            1. Dude
              Dude 29 September 2020 09: 32 New
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              I was not interested in the chronology of the origin of Bulgaria as a Balkan state ...
              Clear. I was just confused by the spread of eras)))
            2. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 29 September 2020 09: 42 New
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              say King Simeon this is the figure on which the "Macedonians" claim.


              The Ohrid Archdiocese is also being stolen from King Samuel. They hammered a statue of Samuel into Skopje and they claim that he is a Macedonian king, well, like with Alexander the Great ...
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 09: 57 New
                +1
                Well, yes, I just know it, but in the Balkans it is clear without explanations, in the Russian resource it requires an explanation.
    2. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 28 September 2020 21: 56 New
      +3
      In addition to history, we have Thessaloniki and you want Blagoevgrad. But the article describes everything so cheerfully.
      1. Jmbg
        Jmbg 28 September 2020 22: 53 New
        +1
        I didn't know about Thessaloniki. This city has never been Bulgarian.
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 28 September 2020 23: 09 New
          +3
          Of course not, but you can bring everything under your Wishlist if you really want to. It's just not clear from the outside. North Macedonia was created with an aim to share territories with its neighbors. Therefore, there were frictions between this new republic and Greece. The Bulgarians have a slightly different problem, they do not recognize the "Macedonians" as a separate ethnic group and do not recognize their language as a separate one. That is, in general, a historical question with an eye to territorial claims.
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 28 September 2020 23: 45 New
        +1
        In addition to history, they are here Thessaloniki and you want Blagoevgrad


        Yes, Pavlos, they want to squeeze you and Halkidiki ... laughing ... Since they do not want to be Bulgarians, God is with them, let them build their own state there, but in the 21st century they need to forget about our history, territory and live as normal and good neighbors. Zadolbali with theirs claims and Skopie looks like cardboard Disneyland - it seems that Cleopatra was also stuck on a pedestal .... funny people.
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 00: 53 New
          +2
          Of course, the North Macedonian Gypsies are not Gypsies, but Egyptians. Let them build whatever they want on their territory, but don't pull their hands to the neighbor's.
        2. bk0010
          bk0010 29 September 2020 11: 44 New
          +1
          What passions are boiling in the Balkans, it turns out! And from here it seemed that peace and quiet ...
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 29 September 2020 13: 11 New
            0
            What passions are boiling in the Balkans, it turns out! And from here it seemed that peace and quiet ...


            That's all on the political front. And because there are backward and artificial power formations, like North Macedonia and Turkey, which cannot behave normally. Otherwise we visit each other, eat and drink :)
            In two hours I can get to the Greek beach or to the taverns of Belgrade and feel myself there at home and among friendly people. But this also applies to ordinary people in Constantinople, only they have a medieval state. All this is just my subjective opinion.
          2. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 13: 27 New
            +1
            Actually, the problem of Macedonia, not only North Macedonia, is a very difficult stage in Balkan history. In the article, she is touched and pre-presented on hee hee. In fact, if you change the classics, the Balkans are peaceful people, but they were spoiled by the Macedonian question. Macedonia is a region for which enough blood has been shed, and relatively recently.
          3. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 29 September 2020 16: 52 New
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            Quote: bk0010
            What passions are boiling in the Balkans, it turns out! And from here it seemed that peace and quiet ...

            A separate room is occupied by the Balkans, but it is better not to meddle there - there is a stormy disassembly all the time, and heavy objects fly.
            © The story of a communal apartment (a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ...)
    3. CSKA
      CSKA 29 September 2020 09: 39 New
      -2
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Russians are offended when they are told that Russia is the history of Ukraine and they are Muscovy.

      What? Muscovy is not Russia in your opinion.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 29 September 2020 18: 51 New
        +1
        Lithuanian Rus was, Muscovite Rus - I have not heard. Do not share a link?
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 30 September 2020 11: 32 New
          -1
          Quote: Doliva63
          Lithuanian Rus was, Muscovite Rus - I have not heard. Do not share a link?

          I didn't hear either. You did not understand. There is one Russia. Everything else is artificial division.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 1 October 2020 20: 18 New
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            Quote: CSKA
            Quote: Doliva63
            Lithuanian Rus was, Muscovite Rus - I have not heard. Do not share a link?

            I didn't hear either. You did not understand. There is one Russia. Everything else is artificial division.

            In my youth, I seemed to think. But then I read a lot of textbooks and other smart books - I changed my mind. And in my memory there is only one Country - the USSR, everything else is an artificial division. Time will put everything in its place. Let's take a look. Is your nickname similar to CSKA or am I wrong?
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 2 October 2020 11: 02 New
              0
              Quote: Doliva63
              And in my memory there is only one Country - the USSR, everything else is an artificial division.

              Now, if Lenin did not artificially draw the border, perhaps this division would not exist.
              Quote: Doliva63
              Is your nickname similar to CSKA or am I wrong?

              You are not mistaken.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 2 October 2020 21: 41 New
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                Quote: CSKA
                Quote: Doliva63
                And in my memory there is only one Country - the USSR, everything else is an artificial division.

                Now, if Lenin did not artificially draw the border, perhaps this division would not exist.
                Quote: Doliva63
                Is your nickname similar to CSKA or am I wrong?

                You are not mistaken.

                Lenin had good reasons for this, alas.
                About CSKA. As a child, I was rooting for "Spartak" - well, there is Yakushev. etc. And then my father once said: why are you sick against me? Well, military man, he was rooting for CSKA. Since then I have always been rooting for my father - for CSKA. And my friend was finishing his service at CSKA. So all around them. drinks
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 6 October 2020 09: 16 New
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                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Lenin had good reasons for this, alas.

                  Excuse me, but what reasons forced him to come up with pseudo peoples, and besides, give them Russian lands? By the way, Stalin and Ordzhonikidze wanted the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR to join the RSFSR.
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  About CSKA. As a child, I was rooting for "Spartak" - well, there is Yakushev. etc. And then my father once said: why are you sick against me? Well, military man, he was rooting for CSKA. Since then I have always been rooting for my father - for CSKA. And my friend was finishing his service at CSKA. So all around them.

                  From the age of 10 he was rooting for Shakhtar for 17 years. But after they moved to Lviv in 2014, I stopped rooting for them and watching matches, I'm only interested in the results of the matches. I have always supported CSKA since they won the UEFA Cup. Communicated with their fans when Shakhtar played with CSKA in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup. When he moved to Russia, he finally gave his sympathies to CSKA. Despite the fact that I live in Krasnodar.
                  1. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 6 October 2020 18: 51 New
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                    Quote: CSKA
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Lenin had good reasons for this, alas.

                    Excuse me, but what reasons forced him to come up with pseudo peoples, and besides, give them Russian lands? By the way, Stalin and Ordzhonikidze wanted the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR to join the RSFSR.
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    About CSKA. As a child, I was rooting for "Spartak" - well, there is Yakushev. etc. And then my father once said: why are you sick against me? Well, military man, he was rooting for CSKA. Since then I have always been rooting for my father - for CSKA. And my friend was finishing his service at CSKA. So all around them.

                    From the age of 10 he was rooting for Shakhtar for 17 years. But after they moved to Lviv in 2014, I stopped rooting for them and watching matches, I'm only interested in the results of the matches. I have always supported CSKA since they won the UEFA Cup. Communicated with their fans when Shakhtar played with CSKA in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup. When he moved to Russia, he finally gave his sympathies to CSKA. Despite the fact that I live in Krasnodar.

                    From Moscow, Lenin could not steer events on the outskirts of the country. Without the creation of certain structures loyal to Moscow, the country would have disintegrated, as many wanted. There weren't enough Russians for everyone, so he came up with all these nationalities, whose leaders kept his line. It only remained to strengthen them with a few units of the Red Army, and everything went like clockwork. An ingenious solution. Innovative. But in the future it had one ambush - pulling it along the national outskirts, as then, with the suggestion of a drunken Borka, it happened. In the long term, it was planned to abandon the division of the country according to nationality, but first it was necessary to raise the country, then a war, then again they fought against devastation. Then they put a tail on it - Khrushch, "stagnation", collapse. In general, then it was interesting for me to live - it was possible from Ordzhonikidze to Sverdlovsk quite satisfyingly on trains for 36 kopecks. get there. Once drove laughing
                    I have been rooting for CSKA since 74th. Not for FC CSKA, but for everyone - football, basketball, wrestling, etc. And, of course, hockey. I went to the match: the USSR national team - CSKA. To say that our guys kicked them somehow doesn’t turn out to be, but it was like that - something like 4-2 in favor of CSKA, I don’t remember exactly, it was long ago laughing
  6. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 28 September 2020 20: 27 New
    +4
    With Curacao and Sint Maarten, the example is not entirely correct. there were the Netherlands Antilles with an autonomous government and a fairly large degree of independence. In 1954, Aruba seceded and directly became part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. In 2010, it was split into Curacao and Sint Maarten. That is, it is now easier for the Dutch government to deal with three autonomous states instead of one.
    From Wikipedia (in this case, everything is correct): The Kingdom of the Netherlands (Dutch Koninkrijk der Nederlanden) is a constituent sovereign state in Western Europe and the Caribbean, consisting of 4 parts (territories): the Netherlands proper (the founding country), Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten. And the islands of Bonaire and Saba decided to receive the status of an overseas province within the Netherlands proper.
  7. Mikhail Ya2
    Mikhail Ya2 28 September 2020 21: 23 New
    +2
    By the way, Serbia has already recognized the independence of Kosovo, so this issue can be closed.
  8. Petrograd
    Petrograd 28 September 2020 22: 14 New
    +1
    The insidious theme, now not brothers from the Square, pull up and start biting from the smoking room
  9. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 28 September 2020 22: 39 New
    +1
    They belong to the category of "unrecognized states" ... This is, of course, about Abkhazia, South Ossetia ...
    And the fact that they are recognized by Russia, Syria, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru ... for the Author it is not "a damn thing"?
  10. Jmbg
    Jmbg 28 September 2020 23: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Pavlos Melas
    The Bulgarians have a slightly different problem, they do not recognize the "Macedonians" as a separate ethnic group and do not recognize their language as a separate one. That is, in general, a historical question with an eye to territorial claims.

    My mother is Macedonian, my father is from northern Bulgaria, and I do not recognize myself as a child from a mixed marriage. However, the claims must have some historical basis.
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 00: 58 New
      +1
      Rather, in the case of our restless neighbors, there is some cultural difference and exorbitant ambition.
  11. Pissarro
    Pissarro 29 September 2020 02: 20 New
    +3
    According to Sudan, the author confused, Arabs in the north, negroes in the south. Absolutely meaningless independence, all the oil in the south, and ports AND pipelines in the north. Calm down, you won't get divorced, again you have to negotiate
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 29 September 2020 08: 48 New
      +2
      One gets the impression that the author wrote the article, "sho would be bulo" without checking at all the material about which he writes or intends to draw attention to the article. Fortunately, there are representatives from the Balkans on the site, it's a pity that there are no Sudanese, otherwise the article will immediately go to the top of discussions.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 29 September 2020 05: 56 New
    +2
    In its most simplified form, it was an irreconcilable confrontation between southern Arab Muslims and black northerners.
    ... The author, on the contrary, is between the Arab North and the Negro South.
  13. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 29 September 2020 08: 25 New
    +2
    The author did not mention Eriterea yet, Somalia fell apart like a house of cards ...
  14. Ruby
    Ruby 29 September 2020 13: 37 New
    +1
    In fact, all countries are born in flames. I personally do not know of any other case in history, well, except perhaps for little things like Curacao.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 September 2020 16: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Yakut
      In fact, all countries are born in flames. I personally do not know of any other case in history, well, except perhaps for little things like Curacao.

      Czech Republic and Slovakia? There, too, there was dislike, but it did not come to open confrontation - they parted peacefully.