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The Czech Republic will replace the Soviet air defense systems "Cub" with Israeli air defense systems Spyder

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The army of the Czech Republic is still armed with the Soviet air defense systems "Cube". They will soon be replaced by the Israeli Spyder anti-aircraft missile systems.


This was announced by the Czech Defense Minister Lubomir Metnar.

The Czech Republic plans to modernize its armed forces, starting with air defense. Moreover, they are equipped with Soviet air defense systems that entered service in the 60s of the last century.

The minister noted the amazing frugality of the Czech military, because the maximum service life of this equipment is forty years.

According to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, negotiations have begun between the two countries on the purchase of four batteries of the Spyder air defense system. They are produced by the RAFAEL company, which won the tender for the supply of air defense systems announced by the Czech Ministry of Defense and lasted for several years.

The range of the Israeli complexes ranges from 20 to 80 kilometers. They are capable of covering both stationary objects and mobile units. SAM Spyder can hit aircraft, helicopters, UAVs and cruise missiles. The radars on the batteries are manufactured by ELTA.

The agreement on the purchase of Israeli air defense systems is only part of a program of military-technical cooperation between Prague and Tel Aviv.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 September 2020 14: 26
    +5
    Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 14: 29
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now ...

      Where did the Czechs have to hurry? They decided to replace Cubes in connection with the complete deterioration of the material part of their air defense forces and at the request of NATO, since the removal from duty of air defense systems in the Czech Republic destroys a single NATO air defense system.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 27 September 2020 14: 40
        -7
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        They decided to replace Cubes in connection with the complete deterioration of the material part of their air defense forces and at the request of NATO

        And sho? So they didn't sell anything to Ukraine?
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 September 2020 15: 54
          +3
          Madam hi
          Quote: Egoza
          And sho? So they didn't sell anything to Ukraine?

          Duc ... how is it not sold? And BMP-1, self-propelled guns "Carnation" and machine guns "DShK", though through Poland and with a lot of wrapping ... but "banged their eyes, shokuvali". Yes, and the Czech Republic has expressed its readiness to sell tanks and combat helicopters to Ukraine ... but now it may also sell "Cuba".
          And now, what is still strange, it was not the "Kub" air defense system that was supplied outside the USSR, but its simplified version of the "Kvadrat" air defense system ...
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 27 September 2020 17: 09
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now ...

            They are in storage .... you can find them there, I was surprised myself, but the mothballed tomboy stands in an even divisional formation.
            1. hrych
              hrych 27 September 2020 19: 36
              -7
              Very nice, geometric names. Cube and Square. And the Israelis? Speeder has some kind of tolerant muck wassat
              1. venik
                venik 28 September 2020 14: 24
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                Very nice, geometric names. Cube and Square. And the Israelis? Speeder has some kind of tolerant muck wassat

                =========
                And there were also "Circle" and "Tor" ..... But the "object" systems had for some reason "river" names: "Desna", "Dvina", "Volkhov", Neva "," Pechora ". ...... drinks
          2. venik
            venik 28 September 2020 14: 21
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Duc ... how is it not sold? A BMP-1, self-propelled guns "Carnation" and machine guns "DShK"

            ======
            Well, then Elena was talking about "Cubes" / "Squares", and not about DShK and BMP-1 !!!
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 27 September 2020 17: 25
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now

      Why then? Cube, S-75/125/200 are in service with dozens of countries, and are still fighting. They are only morally outdated, physically they can shoot down any aircraft in service, under certain conditions, of course.
      It seems like the Circle has recently been in service in Armenia and Azerbaijan. Even they, in theory, can make war.
      1. Kvazar
        Kvazar 28 September 2020 00: 51
        0
        There are different versions.
    3. venik
      venik 28 September 2020 14: 17
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now ...

      ========
      Well, let's start with the fact that the RF Armed Forces still have 1 battery of "Cubes" (at the 102nd base in Gyumri (Armenia), or at least until recently it was there!
      Secondly - most likely air defense systems are in service with the Czech army "Square"(export version of" Cuba "(modified system of recognition of state ownership of targets, changed level of noise immunity, etc.).
      Thirdly - "cubes" and to this day are in service, no less than a dozen countries! Moreover, in Egypt and Serbia - there are more than fifty of them (complexes / batteries)!
  2. Sefevi2020
    Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 14: 27
    -8
    excellent unit. done wisely.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: Sefevi2020
      excellent unit. done wisely.

      Thanks. In general, the system is quite ordinary, but taking into account a number of upgrades and an excellent radar, it fully meets the requirements of the Czech Republic, especially since all systems will be mounted on the Tatras.
      1. Sefevi2020
        Sefevi2020 27 September 2020 16: 19
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Thanks. In general, the system is quite ordinary, but taking into account a number of upgrades and an excellent radar, it fully meets the requirements of the Czech Republic, especially since all systems will be mounted on the Tatras.

        we also have a couple of complexes of this system. Bought) THIS IS THING
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 27 September 2020 18: 45
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        , especially since all systems will be installed on the Tatras.
        You got ahead of me.
        The photo shows a sample that was delivered to Ventam and India on the basis of "Mercedes"
        To the Czech Republic on the basis of "Tatra", which served as an additional plus when making a decision.
  3. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 27 September 2020 14: 33
    -9
    The Czechs got hold of the money.
    Why do they need air defense at all? Who are they going to fight with?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 27 September 2020 14: 55
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Why do they need air defense at all? Who are they going to fight with?

      Yankes-Pahan demands. And the Czechs are only sixes and cannon fodder for the Yankes and they themselves do not decide anything.
    2. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 27 September 2020 15: 01
      -2
      What do you mean why?
      They fit into an attempt at a color revolution in Belarus, and even before that they behaved like a greyhound.
      They are preparing for the answer.
      Naive ...
  4. Maz
    Maz 27 September 2020 14: 35
    -15 qualifying.
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Cube !!! Wow! I thought these systems can only be found in museums now ...

    Where did the Czechs have to hurry? They decided to replace Cubes in connection with the complete deterioration of the material part of their air defense forces and at the request of NATO, since the removal from duty of air defense systems in the Czech Republic destroys a single NATO air defense system.
    and who else should they take? Not Israel, but a direct carrier of a militarized infection. Deal with the crown first, genius Jews ...
    1. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 27 September 2020 15: 05
      10
      And what is the crown?
      And how have we in the Russian Federation already coped with tuberculosis?
      In Israel, they did it, there is no need for fluorography when applying for a job.
      And we have a TB dispensary in every more or less large city.
      And?
      What is this indicator?
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 27 September 2020 18: 48
        +6
        Quote: AllBiBek
        What is this indicator?

        An indicator that Maza from "damned" Israel cannot be kicked out.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 15: 06
      15
      Quote: Maz

      and who else should they take? Not Israel, but a direct carrier of a militarized infection. Deal with the crown first, genius Jews ...

      Well yes. And who sold the S-400 to Turkey, the S-300 to Iran, and the Patriots to Romania and Poland? These were, of course, fighters against the militarization of the planet.
      As for the crown, let it torment our orthodox people a little more. Especially let them walk through their old men. Maybe someone will fix the brains.
      1. Maz
        Maz 27 September 2020 15: 24
        -9
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Maz

        and who else should they take? Not Israel, but a direct carrier of a militarized infection. Deal with the crown first, genius Jews ...

        Well yes. And who sold the S-400 to Turkey, the S-300 to Iran, and the Patriots to Romania and Poland? These were, of course, fighters against the militarization of the planet.
        As for the crown, let it torment our orthodox people a little more. Especially let them walk through their old men. Maybe someone will fix the brains.

        yes if only the orthodox. , walk without masks down the street, then cry, .... they announced quarantine, but the synagogues were not closed, OU are not stupid people? Why total quarantine, if damn it sho hosh they do it. There will also be a third and fourth. As my friend's grandmother, a purebred Jewish woman, said when she, an elderly woman over seventy years old, was not given a seat on the bus - this country has no future with such heroes. and she's right.
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 27 September 2020 17: 14
          +1
          Quote: Maz
          an elderly woman in her XNUMXs has not been given a seat on a bus - this country has no future with such heroes. and she's right.

          The country from which you fled has no future. Because if such anti-Semites as you run away from it to the hated Jews, then the country is a skiff.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 27 September 2020 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Maybe someone will fix the brains.

        You can correct, correct only what is available.
    3. miru mir
      miru mir 27 September 2020 15: 13
      11
      I hope you’re already winning the crown in Ukraine, and don’t wipe the corners in Bituach Leumi for an allowance winked
    4. Danila46
      Danila46 27 September 2020 15: 13
      +9
      oz! Do not show your misery to lovers. It's a shame for the "state" ....
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 27 September 2020 14: 53
    +1
    they are equipped with Soviet air defense systems, which entered service in the 60s of the last century.
    There is an impression that the Czechs were pulling to the last, exploiting this junk (and even then, rather, nominally). But apparently you have to give in to the requirements of NATO and buy at least something corresponding to the realities, it is unlikely that the alliance turns a blind eye to the virtual absence of air defense in one of the rather large countries of Central Europe - this creates gaps in the already not very dense air defense of the alliance in the main direction , because of which the alliance, in fact, makes sense.
    1. Danila46
      Danila46 27 September 2020 15: 20
      +5
      "at least something" ???
      I was always amazed at the hat-hating attitude of the couch generals to the weapons of a "potential enemy". Like: everything that is not ours, truncated auno ...
      ps Or maybe it's for the best? .........
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 27 September 2020 15: 35
        -4
        Quote: Danila46
        "at least something" ???
        I was always amazed at the hat-hating attitude of the couch generals to the weapons of a "potential enemy". Like: everything that is not ours, truncated auno ...
        ps Or maybe it's for the best? .........

        What surprised you in my comment? Spider is a medium-range system, quite modern, but not outstanding either. And here is the hat? PS - what are your successes in real battles?
        1. Danila46
          Danila46 28 September 2020 11: 35
          +1
          So, in your opinion, if not outstanding, it means "at least something"? Then what is "outstanding" for a weapon of this direction for you in this range of destruction?
          ps why are you interested in my combat experience?
          don't worry, it is ...
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 27 September 2020 14: 55
    +1
    This is the touch of Soviet weapons! 60 years!!!!
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 27 September 2020 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: Alien From
      This is the touch of Soviet weapons! 60 years!!!!

      there was simply no war in Europe. In BV, these systems were of little relevance already in the 80s.
  7. Bykov.
    Bykov. 27 September 2020 14: 59
    0
    Well, that's it. Now the Czechs cannot be attacked.
    1. Danila46
      Danila46 27 September 2020 15: 25
      +2
      you can attack anyone. The approach is simple to each individual. The Czechs who are going to attack them must now have a special approach. If sho ...
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 27 September 2020 15: 11
    +2
    Quote: Bulls.
    Well, that's it. Now the Czechs cannot be attacked.

    Only through the Munich Agreement.
  9. bald
    bald 27 September 2020 15: 12
    -7
    It is clear that it is necessary to change, only for whom and for what. Money down the drain, reaching serious all into dust. Well, if they fell under NATO, they will have to carry out, and Israel, aid in trade, albeit outdated systems (they will not help).
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 15: 24
      10
      Quote: bald
      It is clear that it is necessary to change, only for whom and for what. Money down the drain, reaching serious all into dust. Well, if they fell under NATO, they will have to carry out, and Israel, aid in trade, albeit outdated systems (they will not help).

      Why obsolete? Quite normal SAM for today.

      A typical SPYDER-MR medium-range complex battery includes:
      command post,
      Radar detection MF-STAR,
      six launchers, 
      transport and loading machines, support vehicle. 
      The SPYDER-MR SAM launcher is mounted on an off-road vehicle chassis, and has eight missiles. Missiles are launched vertically with subsequent declination towards the target (for a period not exceeding 2 s), which makes it possible to effectively organize all-round defense against various air attack weapons. The Derbi and Phiton-5 missiles, which are part of the Spyder-MR, are equipped with additional launch engines and provide a significantly longer flight range (up to 50 km) with the ability to maneuver at the final stage of the trajectory with an overload of up to 12g. Missiles are used in target acquisition mode after launch.
      The new MF-STAR surveillance radar, developed by IAI's Elta division, can simultaneously detect and track up to 60 targets at a distance of up to 100 km. 
      1. bald
        bald 27 September 2020 16: 02
        0
        Aron, I'm not talking about the old ones, but the outdated ones, which are useless when a conflict arises. You need to trade - trade. One question, is this SPYDER-MR system adapted to NATO's overall air defense system, or is it autonomous?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 16: 23
          +3
          Quote: bald
          Aron, I'm not talking about the old ones, but the outdated ones, which are useless when a conflict arises. You need to trade - trade. One question, is this SPYDER-MR system adapted to NATO's overall air defense system, or is it autonomous?

          I think that the air defense system must be able to be adapted to NATO systems. Otherwise the Czechs would not have taken it.
      2. lucul
        lucul 27 September 2020 20: 27
        0
        Elta by IAI, allows you to simultaneously detect and track up to 60 targets at a distance of up to 100 km.

        And how much does it take in height? I mean the minimum target height ...
  10. Gavrohs
    Gavrohs 27 September 2020 15: 34
    +2
    I look good at RAFAEL, so I took up Eastern Europe. recent times. If Elbit Systems works with Western Europe, then obviously things are going well!
  11. Lesorub
    Lesorub 27 September 2020 15: 35
    +3
    The Czech Republic will replace the Soviet air defense systems "Cub" with Israeli air defense systems Spyder

    As far as I remember, the first air defense systems were acquired by the Georgians.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 15: 47
      +1
      Quote: Lesorub
      The Czech Republic will replace the Soviet air defense systems "Cub" with Israeli air defense systems Spyder

      As far as I remember, the first air defense systems were acquired by the Georgians.

      Yes, they had one battery before the war on 8.8.08.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 27 September 2020 15: 55
        0
        Yes, they had one battery before the war on 8.8.08.

        Was she involved in the war?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 16: 34
          0
          Quote: Aviator_
          Yes, they had one battery before the war on 8.8.08.

          Was she involved in the war?

          From open sources.

          In 2008, 1 SPYDER-SR battery (4 PU) was delivered to Georgia. This complex was delivered in a cheaper version, for example, launchers with rail guides are used, on which missiles are placed without transport and launch containers. Most likely, the complex was supplied only with Python-5 missiles, in any case, only they are visible in all published photographs. Photos of the recovered Python-5 wreck were also posted, but there are no photos of the Derby.
          Although many sources say that "with the help of Israeli Spyder-SR air defense systems, it was possible to shoot down several Russian Su-25 attack aircraft," however, only the fact is confirmed that Spyder has only the Su-24M of the 929 State Flight Test Center (Akhtubinsk ), shot down on 09.08.08/10/20 at 3:5 am near the village of Shindisi (between Gori and Tskhinvali). Three Python-XNUMX rockets were fired at the plane.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 27 September 2020 17: 50
            0
            Thanks for the info. The calculations were Georgian, Israeli, or no one knows what?
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 27 September 2020 18: 07
              +3
              Quote: Aviator_
              Thanks for the info. The calculations were Georgian, Israeli, or no one knows what?

              Georgian of course. What are the Israelites to do there?
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 27 September 2020 18: 43
                -1
                Georgian of course. What are the Israelites to do

                Well, they hired Ukrainians for our Buks, there were no Georgians. And the Israelis, of course, are offended to get caught, so let the aborigines fight for their Sakartvelo.
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 27 September 2020 19: 05
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Three Python-3 rockets were fired at the plane.

            The first two into milk and the third into the goal
            SPYDER anti-aircraft missile systems are currently in operation in Georgia, India, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam. During the 2008 Russo-Georgian War, it was believed that Georgia was operating on SPYDER-SR. The Georgian Air Force has deployed up to four SPYDER-SR launchers, and it is likely that the system was lost during the conflict.
            But then the news came
            According to the Georgian website Agenda.ge, at the end of last week, an agreement was reached between the Georgian Ministry of Defense and Israeli defense enterprises to restore the air defense network of the Eurasian country.

            Rafael Advanced Defense Systems will work with the Georgian armed forces to bring air defense to the required standards, and the personnel staffing the systems will also be retrained, according to the agreements released by the Ministry of Defense at the end of the week. ... The deal for the ongoing maintenance of Rafael's Spyder system is approximately $ 12 million.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 28 September 2020 18: 56
              0
              and it is likely that the system was lost during the conflict.

              Still, an answer came, it pleases. Hohlominusators are present on the site, earlier it was not so noticeable.
  12. surfdude
    surfdude 27 September 2020 16: 34
    +1
    Beer used to teach our brew!
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 27 September 2020 19: 17
      +3
      Quote: surfdude
      Beer used to teach our brew!

      Why wait, "Little Prague" in Tel Aviv

      But not right now sad
  13. Oleg Olkha
    Oleg Olkha 27 September 2020 17: 13
    +3
    In the summer it was in Czech that the MR (Medium Range) version was in the tender. Yesterday the Poles: "In total, Czechoslovakia will buy 4 batteries of 4 launchers in the Spyder MR version (16 km in height, 50 km in range) and the contract will include the option to purchase 4 more identical batteries is included. The option can be exercised until 2030, with Israel guaranteeing the same prices at the level of 2021. All systems will be installed on Tatra 815-7 trucks in the 8x8 version. " If they suddenly decide to exercise the option for the LR (Long Range) version (20 km in height, 80 km in range) it will be somewhat more expensive.
  14. awg75
    awg75 27 September 2020 17: 41
    -2
    Czech borders with: Germany, Austria, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary. The number of the Armed Forces is about 22 thousand. From whom do the fearful dwarfs expect the greatest threat?)))
    1. Oleg Olkha
      Oleg Olkha 27 September 2020 17: 58
      +3
      It is clear that from the "Germans", how else? .. smile
  15. xomaNN
    xomaNN 27 September 2020 19: 18
    0
    Tourists, incl. and from Russia they have replenished the Czech budget like that? Enough for new air defense?
    1. Oleg Olkha
      Oleg Olkha 27 September 2020 19: 35
      +1
      As the Poles note in the comments, a small Czech Republic (unlike them, zealous Catholics with the Church at their head ...) is a "post-Christian" country with a Protestant ethic - "work, savings / savings, education / study."
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 27 September 2020 19: 58
    0
    The army of the Czech Republic is still armed with the Soviet air defense systems "Cube". They will soon be replaced by the Israeli Spyder anti-aircraft missile systems.

    I even know where these systems will end up after being taken off duty ........
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 27 September 2020 23: 17
    0
    Quote: Aviator_
    Well, they hired Ukrainians for our Buks, there were no Georgians.

    The Ukrainians also suffered losses there.