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Who will get the bowels of the DPR?

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Forward into the bowels!



On September 24, 2020, the DPR announced the creation of the state corporation "Nedra", which should take control of the mining industry. The officially declared goals of creating the next corporation are “to ensure the economic security of the DPR, including mineral and raw material independence, to achieve an optimal balance between the extraction of minerals and their consumption and sale ... to increase the efficiency of managing the activities of mining enterprises, to create a production base for carrying out geological exploration, engineering-geological, hydrogeological and geological-ecological surveys, attracting investments in the mining industry ”and so on.

In simple terms, Nedra should put in order the situation in the republic's coal industry, which is happily rolling into an abyss, and organize normal export of coal, the proceeds from which must then be directed to the life of the industry and to the republican budget. And so that they get there, and not as usual. And then there are rumors that the recent inspections in various industries impressed the regulatory authorities so much that they have already promised "Egyptian executions."

Neighbors experience


We have already encountered all these interesting tasks in the LPR, where they also suddenly realized the unpleasant duty not only to work, but to solve a lot of serious problems. So far, it is worth confessing, they have not shown any brilliant results in Lugansk. Rather, on the contrary, they faced a host of unsolvable problems. Moreover, most of them are tied to the fact that even if we dispose of everything that died at Vneshtorgservis CJSC and leave only the most profitable, this is still too little to even solve current issues. By the way, it is worth recalling that Vneshtorgservice, owned by the Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, which ruined the LPNR miners, is now successfully consuming the metallurgy of the republics.

As of today, debts to miners in the LPNR are only growing (in connection with which it was necessary to legally allow the debt to be increased for more than two months, otherwise the entire leadership of the industry would have to be tried). Some businesses have been shut down. Moreover, under the annoying talk of "modernization" and "restructuring". When moving to a new structure (probably to improve performance), miners were cut by various allowances and wages. In Donetsk, they rushed to the last, trying to avoid the path along which the LPR is already going, but nothing came of it, and now Nedra appeared.

Inexhaustible crisis


We can talk about the presence of a systemic crisis in the industry, requiring some kind of divine intervention that would dispossess Vneshtorgservice Kurchenko, forcing him to return everything that was appropriated (or better, immediately the owner) and, with a wave of a magic wand, would flood the LPR with competent and incorruptible managers. Otherwise, the chances of simply holding the survivor in your hands are slim.

However, thanks to the patience and undemandingness of the miners, the agony can be prolonged for several more years; maybe even 5-10. Until the house of cards collapses or there is no recipe for galvanizing the industry. There are rumors of colossal orders for coal from India, but again there is no guarantee that the profits will reach the republics, mine administrations and the miners themselves.

Afterword


At the moment, while the state corporation "Nedra" is preparing to develop the coal industry, in Donetsk, the monopolist car insurance company "Hathor" has once again announced that it is not ready to start "servicing" motorists. Probably, the alleged strengthening of quarantine measures in connection with the coronavirus prevented the start of the development of these "bowels". Although we can also talk about the professionalism of the founders, again and again postponing the start of universal auto insurance.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 08
    +7
    Who will get the bowels of the DPR?

    Another provocative question, in a stupid in meaning and presentation, an article from "Yegor Makhov".

    We go to Russia, with people, bowels and other resources.

    POINT !
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 28 September 2020 15: 10
      +8
      We are going to Russia, with people, subsoil and other resources.

      The question is: "Who will get the Donetsk People's Republic in Russia?"
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 11
        -8
        Quote: AlexGa
        The question is: "Who will get the Donetsk People's Republic in Russia?"

        Please quote from the article from which you understood this, please ...
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 28 September 2020 15: 28
          +7
          This is for your statement. And this is a very serious question. Maybe the example of Belarus will be more revealing. There is a state that has decided to enter another, larger state. Belarus has its own state property. The state disappears and the question arises, and property remains without an owner, then what is the fate of this property? The people of Belarus had public (state) property and suddenly it disappears. So the question arises, "Who got it?" I can agree if it remains in the state property of this large state, but almost everything is privatized there, so who will get all these benefits? The DPR has the same questions.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 35
            0
            Quote: AlexGa
            I can agree if it remains in the state property of this large state, but almost everything is privatized there, so who will get all these benefits? With the DPR, the same questions.

            With the DPR - such questions do not arise, from the word AT ALL.
            For having broken away from the oligarchic-clan system of the outskirts, we have not yet had time to fully form a new system of resource use.
            The reason for this is both the war and the resistance of those very clans. But with the arrival of Russia, all this can be solved "one-two", as in the Crimea.

            "If you want to work, work according to the laws of the Russian Federation, without "gray schemes. If you do not want to, or if you don’t know how, your problems are"
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 28 September 2020 16: 32
              0
              It is strange that you are so actively minus. Former compatriots?
              1. Temples
                Temples 28 September 2020 16: 44
                -1
                This is not Insurgent minus.
                This is a demonstration that there are disagreements on the site with the return of Donbas to Russia.
                The minus under the Insurgent's comment does not change what he wrote about.
                And he wrote everything right.

                Quote: Insurgent
                with the arrival of Russia, all this can be solved "one-two", as in the Crimea.

          2. CSKA
            CSKA 28 September 2020 16: 44
            -1
            Quote: AlexGa
            The people of Belarus had public (state) property and suddenly it disappears.

            And where did you get the idea that it will all disappear if RB becomes part of the Russian Federation?
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 28 September 2020 15: 29
        +4
        Quote: AlexGa
        We are going to Russia, with people, subsoil and other resources.

        The question is: "Who will get the Donetsk People's Republic in Russia?"

        There can even be no questions, to those who belong in Russia. There is no doubt about one thing, the people will not get anything.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 28 September 2020 16: 28
          +2
          the people will get nothing.

          This is the main problem of Belarus joining Russia (This is a discussion on the topic, so to speak, purely hypothetical). This is important for Belarus, since not only taxes from these enterprises go to the budget, but also a fairly large part of the profit. And this is medicine, and education, etc., and somehow I don't want to lose it. So people have doubts about joining the Russian Federation.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 28 September 2020 16: 36
            -1
            Quote: AlexGa
            So people have doubts about joining the Russian Federation.

            It is clear .. There would be a welfare state in Russia, I think the peoples of the post-Soviet countries would not have any questions at all .. And now, yes .. to doom themselves to a poverty-stricken existence, paid medicine and uncertainty about the future, few people would want.
            1. Temples
              Temples 28 September 2020 16: 49
              -3
              Quote: Svarog
              And now, yes ... few people would like to doom themselves to a poverty-stricken existence, paid medicine and uncertainty about the future.

              Of course, everyone living in the lands cut off from Russia live in prosperity and luxury.
              Ukraine, Tribals, Moldovans and all the rest are world leaders in the welfare of the population.

              Svarog, you carry a blizzard, although the winter is only in two months.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 28 September 2020 17: 00
                0
                Quote: Temples
                Of course, everyone living in the lands cut off from Russia live in prosperity and luxury.

                About that and speech .. Russia cannot offer this (wealth and luxury), a corrupt country, where in all spheres "breakthroughs" are of little interest to anyone.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 29 September 2020 07: 48
                  -3
                  Quote: Svarog
                  About that and speech .. Russia cannot offer this (wealth and luxury), a corrupt country, where in all spheres "breakthroughs" are of little interest to anyone.

                  You have a "high" opinion about Donbass, if you think that we are striving to join Russia because of "prosperity and luxury" ...

                  Are you not aware of other, non-material categories that induce unification?
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 29 September 2020 08: 27
                    -2
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Are you not aware of other, non-material categories that induce unification?

                    Tell us about them?
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 29 September 2020 09: 38
                      0
                      Why do you need them? Since you have only mercantile interests "for your soul", then none of my arguments about other motives of the DPR and LPR to return to the origins, you will not be satisfied ...

                      I will say one thing - we will support Russia in any situation for her.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 29 September 2020 09: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        I will say one thing - we will support Russia in any situation for her.

                        Will Russia support you? In the face of those who are now dictating politics?
                        LDNR should have been a part of Russia for a long time, but this will not happen as long as the mercantile interests of the authorities are higher than those of the state.
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 29 September 2020 10: 03
                        +3
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Will Russia support you? In the face of those who are now dictating politics?

                        Already supported. Of course, by virtue of number of external and internal factors influencing the decisions of the Kremlin, not everything happens as soon as we would like.

                        But nothing yes ... Moscow, too, was not built immediately. Most importantly, mutual attraction is indicated yes
                2. Narak-zempo
                  Narak-zempo 30 September 2020 08: 30
                  +1
                  That's right, they strive for their homeland not for the sake of cookies, but because "even stones from the sky are farther."
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 30 September 2020 08: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Narak-zempo
                    They strive to their homeland not for the sake of cookies, but because "even stones from the sky are further away."

                    Like a family. Together, in sorrow and in joy.
          2. Ka-52
            Ka-52 29 September 2020 10: 29
            +3
            And now yes .. doom yourself to a beggar existence

            laughing Svarog, tell me honestly, do you yourself believe in WHAT you write? Without verbiage and references to "my neighbor eats the last horseradish without a radish"
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 29 September 2020 10: 50
              +1
              Quote: Ka-52
              Without verbiage and references to "my neighbor eats the last horseradish without a radish"

              It seems that Svarog to himself is this neighbor with horseradish, but without radish ...
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 28 September 2020 16: 32
        -7
        There is no doubt about one thing, the people will not get anything.


        again you are writing jabbering about your fictitious maneuver with an imaginary "people" consisting of elves and orcs. Well, that's your style. Forum will tolerate and not that.

        PS pensions and the entire social sector in the Russian Federation are paid from taxes after the sale of iotophone and the sale of the Vesta Lada beyond the cordon + payments from your gray salary keep 40 million pensioners and other categories afloat - and not this sale of oil and other mineral resources

        PS Will your mighty patience be extended to this five-year period? wait for the next posts full of tears and patience? Or will there be something with sparkle and creativity this time?

        Can you spice up your posts with memes with mdk and lecture? And then you grieve without a soul, without a soul. Some kind of copy-paste of posts seething with jellyfish. No ardor.

        Again, probably sadly minus? I feel my superiority and do not even press the minus on the posts of sad oppositionists

        minus you in the elections.


        1. sleeve
          sleeve 29 September 2020 16: 37
          0
          In the elections ... We seem to be the only ones in the world who do it with our brains. That's why guys have been swallowing dust for so many years. It does not reach what is expected of them. And it won't ...
      4. CSKA
        CSKA 28 September 2020 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        There can even be no questions, to those who belong in Russia. There is no doubt about one thing, the people will not get anything.

        ))))) And when the people got something? What do you think the military-industrial complex of the Republic of Belarus will not go to Rostec or BELAZ?
  2. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 28 September 2020 15: 12
    +6
    Where is Kurchenko going, who owns these resources?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 20
      +1
      Quote: Hlavaty
      Where is Kurchenko going, who owns these resources?


      It's all in the nuances. Kurchenko, can only own the means of production, and some assets, and then, very conditionally and temporarily "on the bird's rights."

      The subsoil belongs to the people of the republic, and upon joining the Russian Federation automatic will become the property of Russia.

      And Kurchenko, maybe go to the forest, what do we care about the oligarch while welcomed in the Russian Federation?

      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 28 September 2020 15: 36
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        It's all in the nuances. Kurchenko, can only own the means of production, and some assets, and then, very conditionally and temporarily "on the bird's rights."

        You are right in all the nuances. Throughout the CIS, oligarchs "only own the means of production and some assets," which absolutely does not prevent them from managing the natural resources that "belong" to the people. Probably it's not the laws, but the rulers.
        Quote: Insurgent
        And Kurchenko, maybe go to the forest, what do we care about the oligarch who is still welcomed in the Russian Federation?

        But for now, it looks like the loot is winning. And resources and income from them go to Kurchenko and his ilk.

        Unfortunately, what is happening in the LPR is often a mockery of the word "people's" in the names of the republics: some kind of criminal-oligarchic showdown against the background of the cleansing of "people's battalions".

        It somehow became sad to look at the LPNR - the cemetery of hopes.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 43
          +2
          Quote: Hlavaty
          It somehow became sad to look at the LPNR - the cemetery of hopes.


          Do not kill yourself like that ... After all, back in the 14th, when the Russian Federation undertook to actively support the DPR and LPR, it became clear that it would demand something in return ...

          Well, who in their right mind can imagine that the Russian state, with the existing political system in it, would help in the construction of antipodes with the people's socialist way of developing society ???
          So that later, you Russians "looked over the fence to your neighbor" and asked the Kremlin hard-hitting questions ...

          Alas, we had to sacrifice something.
      2. for
        for 28 September 2020 16: 11
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        will become the property of Russia.

        And in Russia they will be.
  3. maktub
    maktub 28 September 2020 15: 14
    +5
    Are they waiting for you there with their mines and metallurgy? laughing
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      1. maktub
        maktub 28 September 2020 15: 46
        +4
        "They will become the property of Russia," so they will no longer belong to the people? laughing
  4. Machito
    Machito 28 September 2020 15: 29
    0
    Forward to the West !!!
    Eh, it's a pity Marik was not taken in '14.
    But the inscriptions on the tanks: Give me Kiev! Give Lviv! I hope no one has painted over. I believe that the time will come when the People's Militia will avenge Zakhar, Givi and Motor and will reach Chop, driving all this abomination from Little Russia back to the Euro-fascist Union.
  5. pereselenec
    pereselenec 28 September 2020 15: 37
    +6
    Quote: Insurgent
    Who will get the bowels of the DPR?

    Quote: Insurgent
    We are going to Russia, with people, subsoil and other resources.

    So it will go to Usmanov and Rotenberg.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 28 September 2020 15: 41
    +3
    There are rumors of colossal orders for coal from India, but again there is no guarantee that profits will reach the republics, mine administrations and the miners themselves.
    ... will the coal be transported by steam locomotives through Russia or by steamships, through Mariupol?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 September 2020 15: 49
      +4
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      ... will the coal be transported by steam locomotives through Russia or by steamships, through Mariupol?

      Coal in a certain way enters the territory of the Russian Federation, where it becomes "de jure" Russian, and from there ...

      Even by planes yes
      1. maktub
        maktub 28 September 2020 16: 06
        +3
        "In a certain way" is the "schema" lol laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 29 September 2020 07: 15
          -1
          Quote: maktub
          "In a certain way" is the "schema"

          Alas, not yet recognized - only this way ... In this case, the "scheme" is a survival tool.
    2. Avior
      Avior 28 September 2020 16: 16
      +4
      Through Mariupol, perhaps, it will be difficult.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 28 September 2020 15: 52
    +5
    Typical problems of all quasi-states.
    There is no simple, quick and easy way out, alas.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 28 September 2020 17: 48
    +3
    Quote: AlexGa
    "Who will get the bowels of the DPR

    YES ANYONE DOESN'T NEED THESE MINES !!! We live nearby (5 km.) Our mines are even better! They are not dangerous in terms of gas, acetylene cut, electric welding, electric locomotives with trawls, no one needs! EVERYONE DESTROYED. Tens of thousands have lost their jobs.
    To be honest to the end - underground coal mining is very expensive! Supported by the state.MUCH.
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