Taiwan's air defense systems discovered Chinese J-20 stealth fighters: the reason was explained in the Chinese press

The Taiwanese press reports that the fifth generation J-20 stealth fighters of the PRC Air Force flew at the minimum distance from Taiwan in recent years. According to some reports, the PLA Air Force fighters flew from an airfield in the eastern part of the country, from which to the island of Taiwan about 500 km.

In the Chinese media, journalists call the Taiwan authorities separatist and add that the deployment and flight of the J-20 "was not only a demonstration of the growing power of the Chinese air force, but also that instills fear and warns separatists."

It also adds that "it is also a signal for the United States." This interpretation is used by the Global Times in its material.

From the material:

Analysts say J-20 fighters have an edge over all combat assets. aviationavailable to Taipei. Any confrontation in the air will lead to the victory of the PLA Air Force over the enemy.

It is noted that if the Chinese pilots are ordered to move towards Taiwan, then the 5th generation J-20 fighters will be able to fly from the Jiuzhou airfield to the island in just 7-8 minutes.

From the report:

At the same time, they will be able to attack targets even before they find themselves in the zone of destruction of air-to-air missiles of the enemy Air Force.

This explains why the "invisible" were discovered. It is stated that while patrolling over the Taiwan Strait, the J-20 "did not use their stealth capabilities, which is why the islands were discovered by air defense systems."

This is not the first time that Chinese J-20s have been detected by air defense systems or aircraft from neighboring countries. So, a few months ago, a Su-30MKI aircraft of the Indian Air Force discovered a J-20 of the PLA Air Force near the border.

Comments

[Lord of the Sith]

So do Chinese stealths still fly on Russian engines?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

So do Chinese stealths still fly on Russian engines?

And from this, perhaps, become "visible"?

[Lord of the Sith]

I do not mean it. And about the very use of Russian engines.
China from Formosa is worried about the fact that fighters reach the island in 7-8 minutes.

[rotkiv04]

Chinese comrades seem to be cunning

[major071]

If the enemy forces
Suddenly they see planes
What did you call invisible
Or more simply - super stealth
Don't explain anything to them
Declare, they say, that it is necessary
So it was conceived and it was
Well, show your tongue!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: major071

So it was conceived and it was
Well, show your tongue!

Sure, not a problem!!!
AHA.

[fn34440]

The Chinese fighter J-20, with all its advantages, including the quite good universal air-to-air missile PL-21, has a significant drawback. These fighters are equipped with Russian-made AL-31F engines, which are more reliable than the Chinese WS-10 V, but they also do not pull the Chinese aircraft to the fifth generation. It is these engines, which were created for the Russian Su-27 fighter, that are now "slowing down" the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter. The PRC is now counting on its own production potential - Xian WS-15 engines.


Aware of this "weakness" of its fighter, China nevertheless regularly praises the J-20, noting its outstanding performance. According to Sohu, it is not inferior to other aircraft of this generation, and in terms of the power of weapons and the quality of the radar system, it is comparable to the American F-22 fighter.
The Chinese also praise the invisibility of their heavy fighter, claiming that it even surpasses similar American F-22 and F-35 aircraft in stealth technology. "Every sandpiper praises his swamp ... and his ducks."

[Boa kaa]

Quote: fn34440

"Every sandpiper praises his swamp ... and his ducks."

Madam! You, as I understand it, are for interspecies crossing !? Because sandpipers are not even close relatives of ducks ... YEAH.
Secondly, the AL-31F to the Su-57 have the same attitude as a horse to the submarine, or as I to the partisan detachment of Batka Makhno ... Today, the Su-57 fly on the already existing AL-41F1 engines (they are also " stages "), and then they will be replaced in the series by newer" Products 30 ". Pilot specimens are already flying on them.

[Mikhail Ya2]

So far, the prototype has flown with only one second stage engine. Nobody has seen the SU-57 with these two engines. Even in your photo, you can see, along the edge of the nozzle, that the left engine of the second stage, and the right one AL-2

[yehat2]

a series with product 30 is already being prepared for series production. More cars with AL41F will not be produced.

[yehat2]

the j-20 has a lot of problems, but its narrow specialization helps a lot.
While the f-22 and su-57 are required, let's say, to actively combine many functions, the Chinese are only required to fly quickly and not very noticeably. It is also not planned for work on the ground.
so it's not that hard for the Chinese to fit into the requirements, but they still have problems.
True, as I understand it, the Chinese solved the problem of the durability of the coating better than the Americans, but on the other hand, even hangars with a microclimate were built for them

[tralflot1832]

That's how everyone flies with these beautiful, amazing lenses, or else they crash into each other.

[Mountain shooter]

Do they fly with Luneberg lenses, or what? So they also need to be able to install. Otherwise, the reflection diagram will be very unnatural. In short, the Chinese fly, fly ... and they look closely, sniff and adjust ... The effect of surprise is lost.

[voyaka uh]

Exactly. And there were pictures of J-20 with lenses of exactly the same shape and
exactly in the same places as the American F-22.

[yehat2]

impossible. The f-22 has a radically different airframe scheme relative to the j-20, how can it have lenses in the same places and the same shape?

[Lara Croft]

not the first time Chinese J-20s are detected by air defense or aviation neighboring countries. So, a few months ago the plane Su-30MKI Indian Air Force found J-20 PLA ​​Air Force

.... so this is what a scarlet flower ...

[JD1979]

It is stated that while patrolling over the Taiwan Strait, the J-20 "did not use their stealth capabilities, which is why the islands were discovered by air defense systems."

You can not use avionics, the use of which affects the ability to detect - radar, electronic warfare means. But they were hardly used on a regular patrol. Everything else - the configuration of the airframe, coating, engines, do not use or use in some other form ... well, maybe they forgot to wear an invisibility hat.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

see comment voyaka uh (Alexey), Yesterday, 14:39

[andr327]

J-20 flights in the direction of Taiwan are more political and psychological. If these planes had not been noticed, then someone would definitely have received a service inconsistency.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: fn34440

The PRC is now counting on its own production potential - Xian WS-15 engines.

It took them 10 years to produce their own gas turbine engines, which are now being installed on Type 055. Having EVERYTHING !!! documentation for Ukrainian М80 and help of Ukrainian specialists. Plus LM2500 delivered earlier on Type 052.
While the WS-15 is not passed through the resource, the capacity has reached, but the resource is small. Although they are hardworking, I think they will bring to mind

[strelokmira]

This explains why the "invisible" were discovered. It is stated that while patrolling over the Taiwan Strait, the J-20 "did not use their stealth capabilities, which is why the islands were discovered by air defense systems."

He wonders how the local urashki minus my comment about Luneberg lenses, under that news, foaming at the mouth, proving that Chinese fighters fly exclusively without them
Now, foaming at the mouth, tales are told that China needs 10 years to create a new engine for the J-20.

[oldman.]

He will remember how the local urashki minus my comment about Luneberg lenses, under that news, foaming at the mouth, proving that Chinese fighters fly exclusively without them laughing
Now, foaming at the mouth, tales are told that China needs 10 years to create a new engine for the J-20.

"urashki", "foaming at the mouth", "minus" ...
Have you ever thought that the minus may be not for the comment, but for the expressions in which it is submitted? If you are so fixated on evaluating your statements, try changing your tone, you see, "locals" and non-locals will appreciate it. ;)

[strelokmira]

? If you are so fixated on evaluating your statements, try changing your tone, you see, "locals" and non-locals will appreciate it. ;)

Beads in front of pigs?) Thank you, I do not intend

And I see the urashki have already connected - how can they not water Chinese equipment with mud, you can't do that

[Thunderbringer]

Then what have you forgotten? Run to your banderlog.

[bars1]

Nothing unusual. VHF and UHF radars successfully detect stealth, albeit with low accuracy.

[Holsten]

A strange way for stealth to intimidate with visibility. Now, if someone suddenly turned on the afterburner right above the radar station, then, I think, the addressee of such an action would definitely get goosebumps.

[The eye of the crying]

For the J-20, of course, the F-16B is just a target.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

The Taiwan Air Force is now receiving the new F-16 C / D Block 70, also known as the F-16V Viper. Delivery of 66 aircraft is planned. Previously delivered F-16s are also being upgraded to the F-16V level.

[immobile2008]

"They did not use their stealth capabilities, which is why the islands were discovered by air defense systems." They removed the paintwork, changed the tilt angles ...

[Nikolaevich I]

And the king is naked?

[migsu]

J-20 is absolutely nothing of generation 3+ !!!

[akarfoxhound]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Lord of the Sith

So do Chinese stealths still fly on Russian engines?

And from this, perhaps, become "visible"?

No, they automatically become "unmatched in the world"

[Mimino]

It seemed to me alone that something from a polypropylene pipe was soldered in the cabin?

[yehat2]

you don't understand anything about sausage scraps)))
this is a radio-transparent composite from which the storm drain on the plane is made)))