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"Russia has not learned any lessons": India calls to reconsider relations with China

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It is time for Russia to get rid of its illusions, expecting support from China in the event of a real conflict with the West. India is its real strategic partner.


This opinion was expressed by Professor Nalin Kumar Mohapatra in The Economic Times. According to him, in the past two years, relations between India and Russia have reached new heights, demonstrating growing cooperation in the field of defense and energy, along with a common desire for a multipolar world. However, the intensification of ties between the two countries is hindered by the "unholy force" in the form of China.

According to Mohapatra, Moscow's relations with Beijing are experiencing a meteoric surge as they both take an anti-Western stance.

There is a certain delusion in the minds of Russian politicians that China will help Russia in the event of any crisis with the West. However, whenever Russia faces a real problem, be it the Crimean crisis or the South Ossetian problem, China is silent. Despite these setbacks, Russia has not learned any lessons

- says the professor.

As he believes, Moscow needs to turn towards New Delhi, and not rely on such an unreliable partner. In particular, India's accession to the Eurasian Economic Union will help balance China's economic penetration into the post-Soviet space. This has already been realized by the leadership of Kazakhstan, which is trying to compensate for Beijing's influence through ties with India.

Russia should offer India the opportunity to join the EAEU

- the professor notes.

In his opinion, Moscow, despite the pro-Chinese course, has shown its readiness to provide assistance to New Delhi in the course of its conflict with the PRC. The agreements concluded then on the supply of the S-400 air defense system came in handy. However, it is necessary not to stop there.

Russia must get out of the Chinese orbit [of influence] and strengthen its relationship with India on an equal footing to establish a just world order

- concludes Mohapatra, calling for a radical review of relations with the PRC.
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  1. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 03: 35 New
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    It is time for Russia to get rid of its illusions, expecting support from China in the event of a real conflict with the West. India is its real strategic partner.
    Russia is looking for partners. But, in the event of a real conflict with the West, we, as usual, will have to rely ONLY on our own strength. And it will end in the same way as it usually ends. For a while, the whole world, and in particular the West, is discouraged from the desire for a real conflict with Russia. Then a new generation, unbeaten by Russia, grows up - and all over again. "Those did not succeed, but I will succeed." Well, well, you are welcome ... am

    The Hindus cannot understand that Russia is not India, not France, and, moreover, not European limitrophes. Russia does not seek military support from anyone and does not hope for anyone's military assistance. About the fact that without America the USSR would not have defeated Hitler, and, moreover, that America defeated Germany with little help from the USSR - let them write history in American school textbooks.

    India should not overestimate its role for Russia as a strategic partner. We can do without India. But India is without us - we'll see. They also sin with "multi-vector", like Alexander Grigorievich not so long ago. But that one, in the light of recent events, I hope, has understood a lot. And these still fried western rooster did not peck anywhere. If they bite, they will also understand. That's when we'll talk about "strategic partnership".
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 26 September 2020 04: 42 New
      17
      It is time for Russia to get rid of its illusions, expecting support from China in the event of a real conflict with the West. India is its real strategic partner.
      oh well ... there will be a fight - we will be alone, everyone will scatter, catch up with the winner as always.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 06: 27 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        It is time for Russia to get rid of its illusions, expecting support from China in the event of a real conflict with the West. India is its real strategic partner.
        oh well ... there will be a fight - we will be alone, everyone will scatter, catch up with the winner as always.

        It should be added that they will catch up with the one who is TEMPORARILY considered the winner. In August 41, no one in the world could even think of May 45. Vaughn, America even awarded the Humpback Dog Medal "For Victory in the Cold War." Hitler also spanked medals in advance - were they useful? And now the European limitrophes have pulled themselves up to what they consider to be strong and invincible. For the time being. Until it smelled fried.

        It is touching that the same Poles today blame us for the fact that we were SPECIALLY in no hurry to liberate Warsaw from the Germans (so they waited for the "Soviet occupation"?). Well, they would have waited for the Americans, or something ... They "liberated" Auschwitz ...
        January 29, 2020 - RIA Novosti. The US Embassy in Denmark posted on Twitter that the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz (Auschwitz) was "liberated" by the US Army.
        After criticizing users, the diplomatic mission acknowledged the mistake, but the text was never corrected.
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 02 New
          -6
          "The same Poles blame us today for the fact that we were SPECIALLY in no hurry to liberate Warsaw from the Germans" - Are you sure of the opposite? Stalin had very good reasons not to rush to the liberation of Warsaw, both objective and subjective. And yes, if our troops had helped the Warsaw Uprising, there might not have been a socialist regime in Poland.
          1. MstislavHrabr
            MstislavHrabr 27 September 2020 22: 46 New
            +1
            And why on earth did we have to rush, risk the lives of our soldiers, throwing them into an unprepared offensive ... For whom ?! For the sake of those nits that today sit in the government of Poland and accuse us of all mortal sins? They raised a revolt ... And they (the rebels) here, that they asked for help? Those who raised people to the uprising (sitting in London), and did not calculate their strength, are to blame for their death ...
          2. Nikolai Korovin
            Nikolai Korovin 27 September 2020 23: 05 New
            +4
            You are probably not aware that our troops tried to help the Warsaw Uprising. Bridgeheads were captured both upstream and downstream of Warsaw. However, attempts to coordinate actions with the rebels failed due to the reluctance of the rebels to negotiate. The troops who crossed outright could not build on the success and barely held the bridgeheads. After a long offensive, there were no operational reserves at the disposal of the command of the 1st Belorussian Front, which would have made it possible to build on the success.

            The configuration of the front in the Warsaw area was very disadvantageous for our troops, since it was a rather significant arc with a summit directly near Warsaw, reminiscent of Kursk, but, however, noticeably less deep. Nevertheless, the surviving penetrations of the front of German troops into the base of this arc in the Lomza and Demblin areas undoubtedly gave the Wehrmacht command some hope, if a sufficient number of mobile units accumulated in these areas, to strike from them in the general direction of Sedlec, which would lead to the operational encirclement of a significant part of the forces of the 1st Belorussian Front - a kind of topsy-turvy Stalingrad, with the difference that in front of the Germans storming Stalingrad, there was also no very significant water barrier, such as the Vistula.

            When the Germans had an advantage in tanks and aviation, they had cases of successful implementation of such operations both in a counteroffensive and in a stabilized front. Events developed in a similar way during the failure of the offensive of the southwestern front to Kharkov in May 1942, and in the great bend of the Don during the German offensive against Stalingrad. The reserves of the Germans in this area were hardly known for sure at that moment. The presence of such a potential threat undoubtedly fettered significant Soviet forces on the flanks of this arc, which made it impossible to use them in the Warsaw area.

            For the crossing of the Vistula by significant forces that could create at least a semi-encirclement of Warsaw, there were neither these forces themselves, nor the engineering support for the crossing of significant contingents, nor the means of suppressing the defense, moreover, located behind a serious water barrier. Such issues are not resolved in a week. Thus, the uprising at the moment it began was a provocation that did not take into account the real situation at the front, and was conceived with the aim of provoking attempts by the Soviet command to nevertheless transfer additional forces to the left bank of the Vistula. This could only create a dangerous operational-tactical situation for the Soviet troops as a whole and cause unjustified losses in unprepared attacks on the stable line of defense of the Germans.

            Political considerations that have arisen in retrospect should not be confused with the specific problems facing the Soviet command in this case. It should not be forgotten that all processes take place in space and time, and before the Yalta conference there was still more than six months. This is all known now. At that moment, the question of the political structure of post-war Poland was unlikely to be of particular concern to anyone, although some negotiations, of course, were already underway. For example, the Lublin government did not object at about this time to the participation of Mikolajczyk and his group in the coalition government. And the global problem was completely different. The forces of the Wehrmacht were still very large, and the main attention of the Soviet command, undoubtedly, was riveted on the fierce Battle of Balaton, which was taking place at the same time. Failure of this last attempt of the Germans to go on a general offensive was quite expensive, and it was, frankly, not at all until Warsaw. The Poles, as always, thought only of themselves.
        2. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 27 September 2020 19: 45 New
          +2
          Not in order to criticize the post or the actions of the Headquarters of the High Command, but to clarify information. There was a song from the 40s with a chorus to each verse: "Such and such (Minskaya, Brestskaya, Varshavskaya) street goes through the city, (this) street leads us to the west." So, after the Varshavskaya street led to the west, the singer then gives out with a completely inimitable intonation: "We took Warsaw right off the bat ..." and so on. I've been thinking - how to understand this? And it seemed to me that it was not without the original sense of humor comrade. Stalin. I don’t know how this could be verified.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 27 September 2020 20: 53 New
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            Quote: Nikolai Korovin
            So, after the Varshavskaya street led to the west, the singer then gives out with a completely inimitable intonation: "We took Warsaw right off the bat ..." and so on. I've been thinking - how to understand this?

            The song was written after the events. I know from myself that AFTER the most terrible events seem not so terrible, because I experienced them. And if you constantly scroll through the event, you can slowly move out of your mind. Moreover, this song is not documentary, it is a kind of mass culture of the 40s. Therefore, to find fault with the words in the sense that we took everything "outright" - by God, it's not worth it ... Moreover, Comrade Stalin's peculiar sense of humor has nothing to do with it.

            I would like to hear about the war without jokes and not so much fun - "Enemies burned down their native hut", "Cranes" performed by M. Bernes and many, many other songs. In our army, the boys had tears under the "Crane" ...
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 26 September 2020 15: 50 New
        +5
        Isn't it time for India itself to decide - is it for "white" or for red "?)))) Is it really so difficult to understand that mattress makers do not have friends, only" six ". As soon as the need disappears, they forget about the" six ") )))
        1. vVvAD
          vVvAD 27 September 2020 18: 25 New
          +1
          India is for India. And rightly so - for a major power. They do not understand only one thing - as long as the United States has a counterweight in the form of Russia and China, the sworn enemy of both - the United States is courting India. If one of these 2 forces does not become, the probability of the second will be defeated. And then the United States will tell India everything it really thinks about it. And yes: those who pursue the goal of single-handedly rule the world cannot have friends (and, by and large, it all started with the Monroe Doctrine - more than 100 years ago, and no changes are foreseen, rather, full consensus). So rapprochement with China is vitally important to India itself simply because a bad world is better than a good quarrel.
    2. halpat
      halpat 26 September 2020 08: 14 New
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      I didn't quite understand why everyone was so excited by the words of a certain Indian professor?
      why the Indian professor got excited I understand.

      India must first recognize Crimea, South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria.
      Otherwise it is silent and silent :))
      China even participates in tank biathlon and sometimes vetoes something in the UN Security Council. Or abstains. And the Indians?
      I have not heard a single official word of support from India and have not read anything.
      Even Lukashenka was not congratulated :))

      And so, of course ... hindi rusi phai phai
      1. Machito
        Machito 26 September 2020 09: 50 New
        +5
        The statement of the Hindu professor is a bullshit and his personal wishlist. Strategic partnership with China is two orders of magnitude higher than with India. And India is trying to sit on five chairs. Even Ukraine cannot do this.
        1. SAG
          SAG 26 September 2020 13: 33 New
          +5
          Russia has not learned any lessons ": India calls to reconsider relations with China

          allow themselves with completely unbearable swagger to give some advice of a cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity about how to divide everything ... And at the same time they swallowed tooth powder ...
        2. Kazimirsat
          Kazimirsat 27 September 2020 02: 29 New
          0
          Indian god Shiva had 6 hands and not 6 asses
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 September 2020 16: 30 New
      +1
      when Russia faces a real problem, be it the Crimean crisis or South Ossetia, China is silent.
      Who would say it but not Indians laughing
    4. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 26 September 2020 19: 06 New
      +1
      oh, some more brothers have drawn, Russia has no allies except the Army, the Aerospace Forces and the Navy, you can only rely on yourself, and the rest are temporary fellow travelers
  2. BDRM 667
    BDRM 667 26 September 2020 03: 40 New
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    "Russia has not learned any lessons": India calls to reconsider relations with China

    You, Hindus and Chinese, need to negotiate with each other, and not nod at Russia, pulling us over to your side like a blanket ...

    Moreover, no one has the right to dictate to us "lists of friends and allies." Such things are clarified in deeds and not in words.
    И deal, this is not dancing with tambourines ...
  3. Titus_2
    Titus_2 26 September 2020 03: 48 New
    +7
    For me, since our weapons are not hated, it is already good news and in fact it is right that there is no hope for China 99 %.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 September 2020 04: 42 New
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      Of course, there is no hope for China, but why should we consider India a reliable partner? Swung into a conflict between Russia and the West ... but they themselves harness for us? Even Crimea was not recognized as Russian, and not a single Hindu would have died from this.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 06: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: 1976AG
        why should we consider India a reliable partner? Swung into a conflict between Russia and the West ... and they themselves harness for us?

        Will they help us by throwing turbans on the enemy? A billion turbans is power ...
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 10 New
        +4
        "Even Crimea was not recognized as Russian" - Belarus, Kazakhstan, the countries of Central Asia, China were not recognized either. Can you name one good reason why India (and other countries) should recognize Crimea as ours? We will still sell weapons to them, we will still buy medicines from them. We will still be friends with China more than with India, regardless of whether they recognize Crimea as ours or not. India's economic ties with the United States are much cooler than with Russia - what the hell is it to substitute for them, running into sanctions? As long as we have a weak economy, we are doomed to be alone.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 26 September 2020 17: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
          "Even Crimea was not recognized as Russian" - Belarus, Kazakhstan, the countries of Central Asia, China were not recognized either. Can you name one good reason why India (and other countries) should recognize Crimea as ours? We will still sell weapons to them, we will still buy medicines from them. We will still be friends with China more than with India, regardless of whether they recognize Crimea as ours or not. India's economic ties with the United States are much cooler than with Russia - what the hell is it to substitute for them, running into sanctions? As long as we have a weak economy, we are doomed to be alone.

          You apparently did not read my comments carefully. It is the Hindus who are trying to prove that they are a much more reliable ally for us than China. Read the first two lines of this article carefully. That is, in the event of a real conflict with the West, China will not support us, but India will support us. Nicely swung.
          1. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 19 New
            +2
            Well, the words cannot be thrown out of the song, you wrote that "Crimea was not even recognized as Russian." Daddy didn’t admit it either, but we forgave him everything and keep our own, Indusov is just understandable - everyone is trying to sell their friendship at a higher price, preferably in such a way that it would cost nothing for ourselves ..
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 26 September 2020 17: 21 New
              0
              You did not understand the meaning. If they even piled Crimea as Russian, then why should we believe that they will come to our aid in a real conflict with the West? The article is not about Belarus.
              1. Sergey Sfiedu
                Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 41 New
                +1
                Well, what kind of help against the West can we talk about? That India and China are not our allies. Even if they suddenly recognized Crimea as Russian for some selfish reasons, nothing would have changed. Vanuatu has now recognized Crimea as Russian, that they will help us?
                1. Sergey Sfiedu
                  Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 43 New
                  0
                  Well, the main thing in my post is that in order to have allies, you must be able to bind them to yourself. And in order to bind an ally to yourself, you need to have a strong economy. Here China is more likely to bind us to itself than we are China.
                2. 1976AG
                  1976AG 26 September 2020 17: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
                  Well, what kind of help against the West can we talk about? That India and China are not our allies. Even if they suddenly recognized Crimea as Russian for some selfish reasons, nothing would have changed. Vanuatu has now recognized Crimea as Russian, that they will help us?

                  But the Indian "professor" believes that China is not our ally, but India is an ally. Well, you at least start to read something, it's not me who came up with it.
                  1. Sergey Sfiedu
                    Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 50 New
                    0
                    You came up with the Crimea. We must be aware that the mass of people around the world sympathize with Russia, but at the same time they do not want to take sides in our conflict with Ukraine (and the United States). We do not take the Indian side in the Indian-Chinese conflict, why do you demand the opposite from the Indians7
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 26 September 2020 17: 52 New
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                      Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
                      You came up with the Crimea. We must be aware that the mass of people around the world sympathize with Russia, but at the same time they do not want to take sides in our conflict with Ukraine (and the United States). We do not take the Indian side in the Indian-Chinese conflict, why do you demand the opposite from the Indians7

                      I do not demand anything from them at all, they are trying to prove that they are awesome allies to us in the war with the West.
            2. rotkiv04
              rotkiv04 26 September 2020 19: 08 New
              0
              about Grygorych, you are wrong, you haven’t forgiven him, he is still tolerated
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 26 September 2020 15: 53 New
      +1
      And China has where to go?))) The Chinese are not stupid, they understand perfectly well that if the collective West devours Russia, they are next, without options.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 26 September 2020 16: 48 New
        +1
        Until the West devours Russia, it will weaken a lot, if not choke at all, then it will be much easier for China.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 26 September 2020 16: 52 New
          0
          Alone against Japan, Australia, the United States and a united Europe, even the weakened cannot withstand. And they understand this very well.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 26 September 2020 16: 55 New
            +1
            What kind of united Europe and the United States is there after the conflict with Russia? The pitiful remnants of civilization - nothing more.
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 26 September 2020 21: 46 New
              0
              It depends on what kind of conflict will be. If nuclear, then no one cares. Unless only penguins in Antarctica will survive)))
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 14 New
        +1
        The Chinese economy is an integral part of the Western economy! Do you think why President Xi fell out with Trump? Due to the fact that the Chinese want to sell more and more goods in the USA (SELL CHINESE GOODS IN THE USA!), And less and less to buy from the USA, and Trump, exactly the opposite, wants to SELL USA GOODS IN CHINA !. There is no place at all for Russia in these layouts.
  4. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 26 September 2020 03: 50 New
    +8
    They are funny, these Indians. Russia shares a common border with China, and China is also an important trading partner. And what can India offer us on the world market? Tea and bananas?
    Regarding this
    However, whenever Russia faces a real problem, be it the Crimean crisis or the South Ossetian problem, China is silent.

    China is not an ally of Russia, and Beijing is silent, because if it recognizes Crimea and Ossetia, then the US will immediately hit China with sanctions, the US is only looking for an excuse to impose more sanctions on China. Before criticizing China, let India first recognize Crimea and Ossetia.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 06: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Beijing is silent, because if it recognizes Crimea and Ossetia, then the United States will immediately hit China with sanctions, the United States is only looking for a reason to impose more sanctions on China.

      It seems to me that if American sanctions do not really work on us, then China literally doesn't care. For America, the trade war with China is a shot in the foot. Considering how much American production is exported to China and how much purely Chinese consumer goods are in American supermarkets. Trump, of course, puffs up, puffs out his cheeks - "I will return production to America." This is from the election campaign. There will be new elections soon - but how much has he returned and how much is it for him today? So it remained a classic of election promises.
  5. Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 26 September 2020 04: 05 New
    +4
    opinion was expressed by Professor Nalin Kumar Mohapatra

    An interesting country. A good half of the people quoted in the media call themselves professors from there. The feeling that there is no place to poke - professors everywhere. At the same time, the country manages to live essentially in the Middle Ages.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 26 September 2020 05: 43 New
      +2
      India for centuries, after the conquest of the English crown, was a vassal, an appendage, a source of human and natural resources of Great Britain. And in fact, nothing has been understood since those times.
    2. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 32 New
      -2
      And how does our hinterland live? They are still in the Middle Ages, but we are sliding into the Middle Ages. Look at the publications in leading scientific journals - you will find Indian names among the authors almost everywhere. Hindus have a population almost like China, 152 central universities, 316 public universities and 191 private universities. as well as 33 623 colleges, where professors can come from. Three Indian universities are among the 200 best universities in the world (in Russia - none, our best university took only 214 place in the top).
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 26 September 2020 20: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        And how does our hinterland live?

        You are joking? Our "hinterland" has many problems, but, fortunately, it is not yet possible to compare it with the Indian one.
        Video in the topic. A dude from near Lugansk (the most remote place). Evaluate with what eyes a person from our hinterland (and she - our) looks at how people live in India. How he himself looks against their background, like an alien. And this is not a slum yet - this is an ordinary village, there are no houses made of garbage and sewers running right through the streets.

        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 27 September 2020 05: 03 New
          -3
          Before the revolution, ordinary people in Russia also lived much better than ordinary people in India. But Russia itself, a little over a hundred years ago, built airplanes, ships, railways, internal combustion engines, had a scientific school, universities, theaters, etc. And India lived in the mid-century all - from untouchables to maharajas. And over these hundred years, India has come a colossal way, And our outback is slowly but surely degrading.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 26 September 2020 20: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        in Russia - none, our best university took only 214 place in the top

        You just don't spread gossip, okay?

        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        almost everywhere you will find Indian surnames among the authors

        You forget to mention that at the same time, they almost always represent far from Indian universities. They don't live or work there.
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 27 September 2020 05: 19 New
          -3
          "You just don't spread gossip, okay?" - This is not gossip, but the international ranking QS World University Rankings, the place in the ranking is determined on the basis of six criteria: scientific reputation, university reputation among employers, the ratio of faculty to the number of students, citation index of scientific publications, the share of foreign students and the share of foreign teachers. By the way, yes, I almost lied, cited the data for the last year. This year, Moscow State University took 74th place, which is an excellent result, but it is the only Russian university with a reputation in the West. There are still three Indian universities in the Top 200.
          "You forget to mention that at the same time, they almost always represent far from Indian universities. They do not live or work there" - but they studied in India! Nobody needs ignoramuses in FIG. And Indian scientists are snapped up, which speaks of the quality of Indian education. There are also enough problems in Indian education - many private universities are trying to simply cut the money, and the quality of teaching is awful, but we are also familiar with these problems.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 27 September 2020 15: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
            QS World University Rankings

            Even in your "rating" of Moscow State University in 74th place. And you write about the 214th. Just think, I lied several times! At the same time, you have no idea how this rating was compiled and whether it really reflects the level of education in universities and not, say, the level of their funding, the number of foreign teachers and students, etc. (in the case of WUR, this is just such a rating - very specific, pursuing certain goals). Therefore, for the second time, I strongly ask you not to talk about what you do not even have a vague idea about (and even corny be lazy to look in and check the truth of the indicated numbers) and not spread gossip on the Internet.

            Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
            but they studied in India!

            Why do you think so? Hindus are simply studying immensely all over the world. They have an elite who have money and who want a normal education for their children, not what is given in India.
  6. Sayan
    Sayan 26 September 2020 04: 22 New
    +1
    Kumar - in the slang of our addicts - drug addiction, withdrawal))) entot kumar, hard kumarit))))
  7. strelokmira
    strelokmira 26 September 2020 07: 00 New
    0
    Well, well, piggy with China, create tension on the eastern borders and urgently think about how to feed the Far East and Siberia (for those who have forgotten https://openmedia.io/news/n1/ceny-vyrosli-v-15- raza-na-dalnem-vostoke-voznik-deficit-produktov-iz-za-chastichno-zakrytyx-granic-s-kitaem /)
  8. Ilya Nikitich
    Ilya Nikitich 26 September 2020 07: 17 New
    +3
    "However, whenever Russia faces a real problem, be it the Crimean crisis or the South Ossetian problem, China is silent."
    And that India has already recognized the Crimea as Russian and the independence of South Ossetia? Did I miss something?
  9. Livonetc
    Livonetc 26 September 2020 07: 46 New
    +2
    India is a very capricious and promiscuous country in its connections.
    Unreliable even as a partner.
  10. evgen1221
    evgen1221 26 September 2020 07: 58 New
    +2
    Yeah, thanks of course, but we have enough of our own dancers, such knees break off. What Indians (partners) are already known, and the statement looks more on order.
  11. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 26 September 2020 08: 05 New
    -1
    Lavrov said clearly ... we are not friends against anyone
  12. Xenofont
    Xenofont 26 September 2020 08: 29 New
    +5
    It is simply ridiculous to demand from someone the recognition of Crimea, when our retail chains and banks simply do not recognize it. The railway part of the bridge was launched and prices also increased on the peninsula. And all from the lack of competition.
  13. And why do you need
    And why do you need 26 September 2020 08: 49 New
    +3
    Russia has common borders with China, it is not at all bad to have friendly relations with neighboring countries
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 26 September 2020 09: 20 New
    +3
    With Crimea, Belarus did not support us, and it’s ridiculous to hope in such an issue on India or China in general. Now it only turns out as Alexander III said:
    - In the whole world we have only two loyal allies - our army and navy.
  15. Holsten
    Holsten 26 September 2020 11: 09 New
    0
    A cheap propagandist with the rank of professor is probably paid more - at least not for deep analysis and clever statements.
  16. Bat039
    Bat039 26 September 2020 11: 37 New
    +2
    And India has learned from communication with the Anglo-Saxons ?! There is no need to give advice to the Russian Federation, give them to yourself and an assessment of your cooperation with the USA
  17. ficus2003
    ficus2003 26 September 2020 11: 57 New
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    Well, our answer to:
    There is a certain delusion in the minds of Russian politicians that China will help Russia in the event of any crisis with the West. However, whenever Russia faces a real problem, be it the Crimean crisis or the South Ossetian problem, China is silent. Despite these setbacks, Russia has not learned any lessons

    it should be:
    There is some misconception in the minds of Indian politicians that the United States will help India in the event of any crisis with China. However, whenever India is faced with a real problem, be it Kashmir or the problem of the Northern Territories, the US only tries to use them to its advantage. Despite these setbacks, India has not learned any lessons
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 26 September 2020 17: 35 New
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      How did you decide that India has such delusions? With highly developed economic ties, political and military ties with the United States remain relatively weak, and in historical retrospect, the United States has always supported Pakistan, not India.
      1. ficus2003
        ficus2003 26 September 2020 18: 56 New
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        You have apparently lived in the jungle for the last 10 years.
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 27 September 2020 05: 34 New
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          You suppose I don’t know that in the last 10 years the Indians began to buy American weapons and periodically conduct joint exercises, but this does not mean that they have become an American satellite. They are buying weapons and conducting exercises with Russia, and are not going to stop, despite the explicit threats from the US to apply sanctions. There are plenty of problems in bilateral relations between India and the United States - both trade surpluses and human rights violations. It is worth recalling that at one time personal sanctions were imposed against the current President of India, the United States for organizing pogroms against Muslims in Gujarat in 2002. He hardly forgot it. And the Indians have not forgotten that it was an American-made rocket that shot down their fighter over Kashmir.
          1. ficus2003
            ficus2003 1 October 2020 18: 41 New
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            Especially laughing about "human rights".
  18. Ether
    Ether 26 September 2020 11: 58 New
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    Difficult question, however. Everything must be considered as a whole. Of course, China is no ally for us. Their doctrine is the Far East, this is Chinese territory, where Russians and "not very high-quality" Chinese still live. China condemned the entry of our troops into Afghanistan, India reacted to this neutrally. We have much more ties with China, including military ones. India has no territorial claims to us, but they have constant problems with China. Both of these countries want us to be inclined to cooperate more with them. Well, we need to look at which of them listens to the United States more, in my opinion, India. And so, both countries have 1 billion population. In short, China will be stronger in all respects, but it is a country that has territorial claims against us and will try to squeeze them out of us as soon as possible.
  19. iouris
    iouris 26 September 2020 13: 37 New
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    "Hindi - rusi - bhai, bhai ..."
  20. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 26 September 2020 16: 19 New
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    Themselves from Western terrorists buy them sponsoring and then tell us something else.
  21. Paramon Pictures
    Paramon Pictures 26 September 2020 17: 11 New
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    Mohapatra, no one places any hopes on China: they are quite cunning and two-faced. And then they are also good: they either let nonsense in print, then they refuse joint projects. Yes, and your speech degenerated only because the Chinese became scared. Every bullshit is trying to "beat" us. We expose ourselves as simple-minded in the light.
  22. razved
    razved 26 September 2020 22: 49 New
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    Well, it's hard to believe that the Idians wrote it themselves ... for sure, well-wishers from across the ocean suggested
  23. Vitaly Lozovich
    Vitaly Lozovich 27 September 2020 08: 13 New
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    And what has India done in the case of Crimea or South Ossetia, or has it supported someone? Recognized both Crimea and Ossetia?
  24. shonsu
    shonsu 27 September 2020 18: 17 New
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    Hindus are trying to enlist Russia's support in the conflict with China. Do we need it? The worst scenario is if an open confrontation between the two largest countries begins. This will definitely be the third world war. It is unlikely that any country will be left on the sidelines. But that would be a salvation for the United States. They will gladly support India. The Hindus must be calmed down.
  25. blind
    blind 27 September 2020 19: 04 New
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    the fact is that the center of world control is made from China, or rather, it is being transferred from America. no India can prevent this
  26. Alexander Krivets
    Alexander Krivets 27 September 2020 22: 04 New
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    Russia has two loyal allies, its Army and Navy. To hope for someone else is to doom yourself to failure.
  27. Alexander Krivets
    Alexander Krivets 27 September 2020 22: 06 New
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    Russia has two loyal allies, its Army and Navy. To hope for someone else is to doom yourself to failure.
  28. sd000016
    sd000016 27 September 2020 23: 12 New
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    It's just ridiculous to read such articles. Well, professors in India.
  29. Mimino
    Mimino 28 September 2020 07: 46 New
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    Hindus, as always, consider themselves the most cunning.
  30. Oleg Kievlyanin
    Oleg Kievlyanin 29 September 2020 07: 47 New
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    They are all the same