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Ultra-Long Range and Extra-Long Optimism: The Strategic Long Range Cannon Project

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ACS XM1299 - currently the most long-range in its class


Now in the United States, several promising models of missile and artillery weapons are being developed. One of these projects provides for the creation of an ultra-long-range cannon capable of solving strategic tasks. The finished product Strategic Long Range Cannon (SLRC) is expected to enter the military in the coming years.

Plans for the near future


The development of the SLRC project was announced not so long ago. At the same time, the Pentagon immediately revealed the main goals and objectives of such a project, as well as the expected timing of the work. Defense officials spoke of the need to create a "strategic range" cannon capable of sending shells 1000 nautical miles. The prototype was planned to be put on trial in 2023. After the tests, the army will have to decide on the future of such a gun.

As part of the first announcements and statements, the officials did not specify the appearance of the future SLRC. However, in February of this year, at one of the Pentagon events, some materials on the new project were shown. The command of the future army showed a poster with an approximate appearance of an artillery complex and a model of such a product. We also clarified some characteristics.

In early September, the head of the direction of advanced missile and artillery systems, Brigadier General John Rafferty, spoke about the current work on new projects. According to him, the SLRC gun has a high priority and is a scientific and technical task number 1. Plans to start testing in 2023 remain in place. In the remaining time, the Command of the future must complete the necessary work - and do what no one has done yet.

Ultra-long range complex


According to the published data, within the framework of the SLRC project, an artillery complex of a characteristic appearance with unique capabilities is being developed. In the available materials, a system is depicted with the possibility of transporting by road and transporting a military transport aviation... This allows one to imagine the possible dimensions and weight, but their exact values ​​are unknown.

Ultra-Long Range and Extra-Long Optimism: The Strategic Long Range Cannon Project
Possible SLRC look

The main element of the complex is a carriage, reminiscent of the assemblies of high-power guns of the past decades. It can have its own base plate and traverse mechanisms for circular firing. It is also necessary to use certain means of loading and discharging, taking into account the parameters of ammunition. For transportation, a removable wheel drive and a truck tractor are offered.

The caliber and length of the barrel remain unknown, which makes it impossible to assess the ballistic characteristics of the system. At the same time, the shown model has a characteristic truss near the breech that holds the barrel - this may hint at the significant mass of the latter, associated with a large caliber and length. Loading, obviously, will be carried out from the treasury using appropriate mechanisms.

A promising projectile is being developed for the SLRC, capable of hitting targets at ranges of more than 1000 nautical miles (1852 km). The creation of such a product is a particularly difficult task that can be solved in different ways, but the desired result is not guaranteed. The required range can be shown by an active-rocket projectile with an increased efficiency engine and improved aerodynamics.

Due to the long range, the presence of guidance means becomes mandatory. The most probable is the use of satellite or inertial navigation to hit a target with known coordinates.

In the context of the projectile for the SLRC, a number of serious questions remain. So, the existing technologies in the field of guns and ammunition make it possible to obtain a firing range of no more than 80-100 km, and so far only on an experimental basis. How exactly the range will be brought to the desired thousand miles is a big question. It is possible that the SLRC ammunition will be more similar in design to a guided missile than to a conventional design.


Models of new artillery systems. Probably among them there is SLRC

The SLRC artillery complex must be highly automated. It is proposed to reduce the calculation of the installation to 8 people with the distribution of all functions between them. The minimum combat unit will be a battery of four guns. Obviously, to control such artillery systems, new means will be needed, significantly different from modern missile and artillery systems.

Desired features


The proposed appearance of the artillery complex provides a number of important advantages. At the same time, we are talking about preserving all the positive qualities of cannon artillery with a sharp increase in range and, possibly, power.

The main and fundamental advantage of the SLRC system lies in the ability to deliver precise strikes against targets at the operational-strategic depth of defense. From the point of view of range, such a gun becomes a direct competitor to medium and short-range ballistic missiles, but should have several serious advantages over them.

For all its complexity, the projectile for the SLRC should be simpler and cheaper than any MRBM or BRMD - both in production and in use. In addition, the artillery battery is able to conduct prolonged fire without much difficulty and send maximum shells to the target in a minimum time. Artillery ammunition, incl. with a range of 1000 miles, it can be detected and tracked in flight, but intercepting it - unlike a rocket - is extremely difficult or even impossible. The presence of homing means will ensure high accuracy of hitting the target. The retaliatory strike is complicated due to the high range and time for its preparation; gunners are more likely to leave before enemy planes or missiles arrive.


The M777ER howitzer is another long-range tactical-class system

The SLRC complex is considered as a strategic tool for breaking into enemy defenses, destroying key targets, etc. Guided shells will be able to hit command centers, air defense and missile defense systems, bases, etc. Due to the fundamental advantages of artillery and increased characteristics, it must combine high efficiency, high combat stability, etc. A massive artillery strike will "open the way" for combat aircraft, missile systems and ground forces.

Circle of tasks


With all the expected advantages, the SLRC complex already at the development stage differs unfavorably from other artillery systems in high complexity and cost. The Pentagon understands this very well, but they are ready for new spending and consider them appropriate. At the same time, there is a remarkable optimism. It is planned to complete research work in just a few years - a prototype is going to be built no later than 2023.

Thus, in the next three years, the Command of the future army and related organizations will have to determine the final appearance of the complex as a whole, as well as solve a number of important design tasks. It is necessary to create a weapon of the required caliber with the required ballistics, develop a fundamentally new projectile, communication and control equipment, etc.

If the current plans are fulfilled, and fire tests of a full-fledged prototype begin in 2023, then the completion of development work is possible in the second half of the decade. Accordingly, by the beginning of 2030, the US Army can expect to receive fundamentally new strategic weapons, and the SLRC ultra-long-range cannon will not be the only novelty. Time will tell whether the Pentagon will be able to fulfill its plans.
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  1. Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 28 September 2020 18: 17
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    The first thing is interesting ... if the projectile can be detected and guided, then what is the problem of destruction?

    Second, projectiles that will fly 1 miles ... really? they have the longest-range projectile obtained at the expense of the hellish price and investing in everything that is possible ... It reminds the epic with the "Laser Boeing", when dozens of Boeings with a laser on board should fly over it now over the USA ...
    1. Borik
      Borik 28 September 2020 18: 46
      +7
      The flight of the projectile at 1852 km is hardly possible. This is no longer a shell but a rocket. And to hit some target at such a distance is simply fantastic, unless this target is a city.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 September 2020 18: 53
        +4
        Quote: Borik
        The flight of the projectile at 1852 km is hardly possible. This is no longer a shell but a rocket.

        It reminded me of the old film - Journey to the Moon, when a hollow shell was sent to the Moon with the help of a huge cannon.

        And in this regard, I am wondering how much such a projectile will cost, flying almost 2 thousand km, and how much will the gun itself cost?
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 28 September 2020 20: 53
          +1
          how many ... like 3 rockets)
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 28 September 2020 19: 37
        +5
        Quote: Borik
        The flight of the projectile at 1852 km is hardly possible.

        And why are they so shallow, 1000 nautical miles? It was necessary to immediately swing at the guns firing across the ocean!
        Reminded:

        Well, in the theater it is possible, but so far at the level of Jules Verne.
      3. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 28 September 2020 20: 53
        +2
        no, well, for me so let them try ..
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 28 September 2020 21: 24
          +4
          And they will spend a "wagon" of money, Boris.
          The rocket from Iskander flies 500 km .. Even if the initial impulse is given by the powder charge of the projectile, we will subtract half of the fuel (even 2/3) from the Iskander rocket and even let 50 of the high-explosive charge remain. Then the question arises: how to stuff half of Iskander's rocket (I mean fuel) into the barrel ?! This is not science fiction, especially since such an ammunition should fly 3,5 times further. So I join you, "let them try." hi
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 29 September 2020 09: 06
            0
            a vigorous reactor will be inserted) and they will also ask the Mask ... he likes PR
          2. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 29 September 2020 21: 11
            -1
            They can count on the achievements of materials science and high technologies, for example, and do without fuel at all.
            For example, in the purely scientific project Breakthrough Starshot, the acceleration will be about 30 g, due to which its probes will reach the target speed of 000% light speed - but it is hindered by the lag in materials science of the laser sail that is currently being worked on.
            So it is here - they will shoot some kind of inexpensive metal, grown in a plastic form from a solution, by the method of crystal chemistry, a single crystal, and it will be controlled and corrected by a powerful laser from a stratospheric aircraft-aircraft guidance aircraft (YAL-1) or even from a low-orbit satellite, heating up on its paths are sections of the atmosphere and thus changing their properties and deflecting its trajectory or unevenly heating the projectile itself, from which its material will "lead" with temperature and the flow will change with the appearance of forces for correction. Naturally, for low-tech countries, it is impossible to fight such systems. By itself, an ultra-long shot could have been made decades ago, and the whole question is in correction.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 30 September 2020 18: 29
              0
              Only, dear, it is necessary to build an industry for this in order to make such weapons massive. ... In short, economically now it will be unprofitable - missile armament will be much cheaper, because for this everything is there. hi
              1. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 1 October 2020 13: 50
                0
                They already had a megawatt laser on the plane and they even cut it with the plane as unnecessary. The ultra-long-range guns themselves, even in the era of WWI, planed all and sundry and now they can do it - the industry can do all this, it is not difficult for it. The whole question is in correction. And they are fighting for ultra-long-range artillery because a projectile can potentially be cheaper than a rocket - until a solution to the correction problem is found - all this will be experimental.
    2. General failure
      General failure 28 September 2020 22: 01
      0
      what is the problem of destruction?

      The fact that the projectile is heavy and iron, in contrast to the light and delicate missile warhead.

      I don't believe in a thousand miles either. For this, the projectile must be given a speed of 4-5 km / s. You can hardly achieve this with a chemical propellant, even in an active-reactive version. And on the electric method of throwing, the Americans seem to have stopped licking their lips.
    3. militarist63
      militarist63 28 September 2020 22: 08
      0
      They will fly to the moon again !!! Only now with the entoy cannon! laughing
  2. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 28 September 2020 18: 36
    +4
    A promising projectile is being developed for the SLRC, capable of hitting targets at ranges of more than 1000 nautical miles (1852 km). The creation of such a product is a particularly difficult task that can be solved in different ways, but the desired result is not guaranteed. The required range can be shown by an active-rocket projectile with an increased efficiency engine and improved aerodynamics.

    How is this technically possible? In fact, there will be a rocket launched from a cannon. What for? What's the point of these 80-100 km that a shot can give?
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 28 September 2020 20: 39
      +3
      The creation of such a product is a particularly difficult task that can be solved in different ways, but the desired result is not guaranteed.

      And there is no point.
      The main thing in this - "the desired result is not guaranteed" !!
      Indeed, as noted below: "An elegant way to cut the dough!"
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 September 2020 17: 51
      +1
      It will be something in between a projectile and a rocket, rather the projectile will not be a conical structure, but a gliding block that, with the help of this gun, will be fired into the upper atmosphere into the troposphere and higher with the help of an actively jet propellant engine - and then a planning flight along an aeroballistic trajectory with a rebound from dense slabs of the atmosphere for 1850 kilometers, in-flight control using pulsed miniature turbojet engines for GPS guidance - and this projectile in any case will be much cheaper than an MRBM and the accuracy is the same. All ingenious is simple.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 29 September 2020 17: 56
        0
        Thanks for the clarification, interesting concept.
  3. sergej987
    sergej987 28 September 2020 18: 51
    +6
    An elegant way to cut the dough! We will shoot a tamahawk from a cannon. Well done!
    1. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 29 September 2020 05: 55
      0
      John Rafferty

      So it will be with every corrupt official:
  4. SVD68
    SVD68 28 September 2020 19: 20
    +2
    Not otherwise they want to remove the guns from the destroyer Zamvolt. smile
  5. Skay
    Skay 28 September 2020 19: 20
    +4
    It looks like SDI ...
  6. strannik1985
    strannik1985 28 September 2020 19: 45
    +3
    I wonder how much space for explosives will remain in the projectile?
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 28 September 2020 20: 55
      0
      and this is already a secret .. they fired a prototype of an ultra-long-range projectile at 93 km .. so he has "up to 900 g of explosives" breaks in .. and this is a 155 mm projectile
  7. Non-fighter
    Non-fighter 28 September 2020 19: 54
    +4
    About the range. And they were definitely not mistaken there?
    Jules Verne had something similar.
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 28 September 2020 20: 35
      +2
      If about technical characteristics - then yes, questions arise .. But with the number of zeros in the amounts for project projects - it should be just fine! lol wink
  8. Turist1996
    Turist1996 28 September 2020 20: 32
    +2
    And what would Grandpa Freud say on this subject ?! laughing
  9. Crabong
    Crabong 28 September 2020 20: 33
    +3
    It is not clear who is fooling whom ... Their industrialists - their generals, or they together - us ... But he drank good!
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 28 September 2020 22: 10
      +5
      "It is not clear who is fooling whom ... Their industrialists - their generals, or they together - to us ... But he drank good!"
      I drank when they took the money and did not build / create it. In the meantime, cast a line and catch. The Pentagon now has a lot - to look in civilian life, and if there is nothing similar / promising, then look for a developer for this new one. Moreover, a startup can also be foreign.
      Here's an example of a komos startup. Yesterday:
      “Launching startup HyImpulse this month at German space agency DLR's Lampoldshausen base successfully tested its 16 lb. hybrid rocket engine.
      HyImpulse, headquartered in Neuenstadt am Kocher, Germany, is developing its three-stage SL1 launch vehicle, designed to deliver payloads of up to 500 kg into sun-synchronous orbit. The light lift booster will be powered by twelve 7,600kg hybrid rocket engines - eight in the first stage and four in the second stage, as well as four smaller but otherwise identical engines powering its third stage. Lampoldshausen of the German space agency DLR has successfully tested its 16 lb. hybrid rocket engine.
      HyImpulse, headquartered in Neuenstadt am Kocher, Germany, is developing its three-stage SL1 launch vehicle, designed to deliver payloads of up to 500 kg into sun-synchronous orbit. The light lift booster will be powered by twelve 7,600 hybrid rocket engines - eight in the first stage and four in the second stage, as well as four smaller but otherwise identical engines powering its third stage. ”
      Or
      “Radar satellite operator Iceye raised $ 87 million in a Series C round announced on September 22, bringing the Finnish startup's total investment to $ 152 million.
      “We are grateful for completing a big round,” Mark Matosian, Iceye's US CEO told SpaceNews. "Now we can be on the accelerator." Following the completion of the Series C round, Iceye is preparing to launch four small synthetic aperture radars (SAR) in 2020 and 'at least eight' in 2021, Matosyan said. ”
      I gave these two examples (out of dozens) related to space (I love the SpaceNews web) to show the result of catching startups by the military or large companies.
      And the Pentagon's request for a howitzer with a range of 1000 km will sooner or later attract fantastic and feasible ideas. The main thing is that the average age of the country's population is younger - more young, more ideas!
      And the cut? Do not measure by Roscosmos!
      1. Crabong
        Crabong 29 September 2020 11: 57
        0
        Yes, yes, yes .. It's all very interesting! But a cannon shooting at 1800 km is nonsense. It's a rocket cannon. And if you have a rocket, then why do you need a gun? It's simple. Sounds like the story of the railgun on Zumwalt. Is not it? But even there there were no projects of 1800 km!
  10. Lesorub
    Lesorub 28 September 2020 21: 19
    +5
    A promising projectile is being developed for the SLRC, capable of hitting targets at ranges of more than 1000 nautical miles (1852 km)

    It seems that at such ranges, the weapon should work on some other principles.
    At one time, Jerry Bull developed the "small and large Babylon" cannons for Iraq - technologies do not stand still - various types of fuel, electromagnetic technologies - if the cannon is capable of "pushing" a projectile into near space, then the range of the ammunition increases many times over.
    1. Lad
      Lad 29 September 2020 00: 26
      0
      The Americans also built space guns and even fired. Long. Even 20 years before they tried to do them in Iraq.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 September 2020 01: 10
      +1
      A shot at such distances is only possible
      if the projectile passes part of the trajectory in the stratosphere.
      It is also possible the presence of a rocket booster, which
      turns on after the projectile has entered the stratosphere.
      Without these factors, the gun will have an incredible barrel length.
      and incredible caliber. That is, immobile.
      Like Bull's tool.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 29 September 2020 09: 50
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        A shot at such distances is only possible
        if the projectile passes part of the trajectory in the stratosphere.
        It is also possible the presence of a rocket booster, which
        turns on after the projectile has entered the stratosphere.

        That is, the result is a ballistic missile fired from a cannon. With all the delights of this method, such as the limited diameter of the case (for starting from the barrel) and the inability to cram a normal explosive charge.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 29 September 2020 11: 53
          0
          Yes. And the caliber will be small, and the warhead is small.
          The effect is supposed to be achieved at the expense of accuracy and rate of fire.
          The projectile, whatever one may say, will turn out to be expensive, since you will have to equip it
          GPS receiver.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 29 September 2020 19: 32
            -2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The effect is supposed to be achieved at the expense of accuracy and rate of fire.
            Those. they will shoot at large countries. They will get to Canada and China, but not to Israel and Chile.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The projectile, whatever one may say, will turn out to be expensive, since you will have to equip it
            GPS receiver.
            So you will have to adjust it along the entire route, and not on the terminal trajectory. Then it is, nevertheless, a rocket.
            And what speed (initial) should the projectile have?
            Collosal shot at 120-130 km, I remember ...
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 September 2020 18: 00
          0
          If it has a caliber of 280 mm, then 30 kilograms of explosives will fit there, it depends on its length and the length there will be at least 1,5 meters and most likely for this gun there will be a nuclear charge of 10 kilotons.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 29 September 2020 18: 06
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            If it has a caliber of 280 mm, then 30 kilograms of explosives will fit there, it depends on its length and the length there will be at least 1,5 meters and most likely for this gun there will be a nuclear charge of 10 kilotons.

            And why build a monster cannon capable of delivering 30 kg of explosives to where OTP throws 160 kg of explosives? what
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 29 September 2020 18: 25
              0
              Because the OTR and BR will be much more expensive, and it will be much more difficult to shoot down this projectile due to its small size and high speed, in principle, this weapon will occupy its niche between the OTRK and the MRBM, in principle, this weapon can also be used to launch communication microsatellites to LEO without involving spaceports and the same missiles - from anywhere in the world.
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 29 September 2020 19: 38
                -2
                Quote: Vadim237
                Because OTR and BR will be much more expensive
                The shell itself - maybe. But the cost of a shot is already necessary to count: 280 mm is already very serious even for a gun with a range of under 50 km. Hence the difficulty of moving stealthily.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 29 September 2020 20: 25
                  0
                  And what is the complexity of the trailer, the platform, it is a frame for a gun with everything necessary for shooting and a tractor of the required power, transportation on its own by land by sea by sea transport and aviation with the same C 5.
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 30 September 2020 03: 23
                    -2
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    And what is the complexity of the trailer, the platform is also the bed
                    You probably want to bind parameters to Br-5? So this is a mortar, i.e. closer to the mortar, and its range is 200 times less.
                    K5 (E) weighed over 200t in transport position. And this is for the railway. The range is about 60 km.
                    The barrel alone will weigh 50 tons. What is the C-5?
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 30 September 2020 13: 50
                      +1
                      The design will be changed - but the dimensions will remain the same as the weight
                      1. Simargl
                        Simargl 30 September 2020 19: 52
                        -2
                        topwar.ru/162159-m65-atomic-annie-pervaja-atomnaja-pushka-ssha.html
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        The design will be changed - but the dimensions will remain the same as the weight
                        With what fright? M-65 shot at 30 km. The barrel is rather short - 45 calibers. And thin, judging by the range.
              2. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 30 September 2020 08: 50
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                Because OTR and BR will be much more expensive

                Let me remind you that a 155-mm shot for Zamvolt cost about a million evergreens.
                And don't forget about the cost of the weapon. The 280-mm system with a firing range of over 100 km is, of course, not yet the "Parisian Cannon", but already something close to the TM-3-12.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 30 September 2020 13: 48
                  0
                  I described the possible technical implementation of such a weapon above - it has nothing in common with monster guns.
              3. db1967
                db1967 30 October 2020 17: 13
                0
                Satellites and now the same Poplar M are easy to launch from anywhere in the world. But a satellite that can withstand the overload of a shot from a cannon will be bruliant in price.
  11. militarist63
    militarist63 28 September 2020 22: 06
    -3
    Another fantastic American project that will end in nothing! winked But dlyars will master with a healthy number of zeros! And taxpayers will be clapping their ears! laughing
  12. Inspector
    Inspector 28 September 2020 22: 11
    -1
    Ballistic cannon. Or a machine gun. What have I read ?????
  13. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 28 September 2020 22: 13
    -1
    Barrel system firing missiles ... Shells are either out of habit or from the evil one.
    Barrel complex means artillery. But it fires missiles - it means the missile system.
    And while they flounder in such concepts, money will be successfully sawed ...
  14. imobile2008
    imobile2008 28 September 2020 22: 41
    0
    despite the fact that this is a semi-rocket, it will still be cheaper than a rocket, and with the help of AI it will be a super weapon for long distances. Homing artillery. This is a mega weapon
  15. imobile2008
    imobile2008 28 September 2020 22: 51
    -2
    Quote: Mark Kalendarov
    Barrel system firing missiles ... Shells are either out of habit or from the evil one.
    Barrel complex means artillery. But it fires missiles - it means the missile system.
    And while they flounder in such concepts, money will be successfully sawed ...

    A projectile with wings and a guidance system. There will most likely be different modifications of guidance systems, cheap (guidance price) up to $ 100 and very expensive. Trained on neural networks will have an efficiency of up to 99% and a cost of up to $ 1000 (plus a cut) Who does not believe can look at how Tesla's autobills define cars. I don't see that, he sees all the cars and their speed at once.
  16. imobile2008
    imobile2008 28 September 2020 22: 55
    +1
    Quote: militarist63
    Another fantastic American project that will end in nothing! winked But dlyars will master with a healthy number of zeros! And taxpayers will be clapping their ears! laughing

    We will clap our ears, as usual, when we catch up and make analogs. Because we cannot see perspectives in ideas. And we do not listen to those who say that this is very cool. And this is cool! Artillery is cool, but with artificial intelligence it's something!
    1. Lad
      Lad 29 September 2020 00: 34
      +1
      It is impossible to immediately guess in advance which idea will work. Therefore, active countries are allocating money and working on various promising options. But then they find themselves with the latest developments and the latest weapons. The rest can only catch up then. Oh yes, it still remains to contemptuously talk about "drank the dough", nothing else can be done. )))
  17. shinobi
    shinobi 29 September 2020 04: 56
    0
    Something painfully familiar is happening, with a predetermined result. And in general, lately the United States more and more resembles the Third Reich at the end of its existence. The projects of "super weapons" are getting crazier.
    PS: I am a little "theoretical" about the "probable" appearance of this "super device." channel in the final segment. The maximum range, after the appetites wake up and the time comes for a real look at the essence of things, no more than 150-300 km and the price for ammunition from 450 thousand to 600 million dollars per shot. show-off and the next cut the matter will not advance.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 September 2020 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      and the price for ammunition from 800 thousand to 1,5 million dollars per shot.

      It will not be enough. The shells for the Zamvolta cannons have already cost 1 million. Plus inflation.
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 30 September 2020 02: 15
        0
        I took the approximate price of these shells as a basis.
  18. Hermit21
    Hermit21 29 September 2020 08: 29
    -1
    ACS XM1299 - currently the most long-range in its class


    And how long has it been with her? "Koala" not only is quite serial and began to enter the troops, it also shoots further. And it will be even further. No matter how you feed the bald eagle, the bear is still thicker and longer
  19. sen
    sen 29 September 2020 08: 59
    +1
    Why does the US even need long-range artillery? One of the options is to destroy the military air defense.
    “In the United States, during an exercise in Arizona, they destroyed several enemy targets at once, painted to resemble the Russian Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and cannon systems.
    According to Defense One, the fire was fired from drones and Extended Cannon Artillery (ERCA) howitzers, which were aimed at satellites and helicopters simulating the future reconnaissance aircraft - Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft (FARA).
    The spacecraft detected air defense systems, and then transmitted the coordinates to the Tactical Intelligence Targeting Access Node (TITAN) ground data processing station, located more than a thousand kilometers from the exercise area.
    TITAN then sent data to the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona, where howitzers opened fire and destroyed the Shells. In parallel, the helicopter found the command post and transmitted the coordinates to the Gray Eagle drone. The target was destroyed by a Hellfire missile from an all-time low of 91 meters. "
    https://utro.ru/news/army/2020/09/28/1459070.shtml
  20. English tarantas
    English tarantas 29 September 2020 09: 22
    0
    targets at ranges over 1000 nautical miles (1852 km).

    has a high priority and is a scientific and technical task number 1

    and do what no one else has done yet.

    Yes, no one in the American Armed Forces has ever done such an ultra-mega-hyper cut.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 September 2020 09: 57
      0
      Quote: English tarantass
      Yes, no one in the American Armed Forces has ever done such an ultra-mega-hyper cut.

      What about the YAL-1?
      5 billion for a program that initially failed due to the Earth's atmosphere: at high beam powers, all nonlinearity begins, due to the fact that the beam changes the characteristics of the medium through which it passes - and where it will end up as a result can be recognized only after the shot.
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas 29 September 2020 17: 21
        0
        So it's physics, it's difficult, not everyone knows, I'm not strong myself. But to say that an ordinary howitzer can shmalnit 1800 km is obvious nonsense for any ninth grader.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 September 2020 18: 04
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        YAL-1 curtailed the program because they decided to save money on something, but the airborne laser was successful, it worked and hit the missiles on tests.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 30 September 2020 08: 58
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          Quote: Vadim237
          YAL-1 curtailed the program because they decided to save money on something, but the airborne laser was successful, it worked and hit the missiles on tests.

          Uh-huh ... a liquid-fuel BR at a distance of about 160 km. That is, in the air defense zone.
          By the way, problems arose with a solid-propellant ballistic missile in the same tests - it was impossible to achieve beam retention on the ballistic missile.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 September 2020 13: 58
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            Well, this is not a problem of the laser itself, but rather of the guidance system - ten years have passed, everything has stepped ahead of the battery, superionistors of the control and guidance system, and the lasers themselves at a distance of 1000 will be able to intercept the taking-off MRBM and ICBM everything depends on the power of 5-10 Megawat now on a heavy transport ship is possible put the United States back to the YAL-1 concept in a few years.
  21. English tarantas
    English tarantas 29 September 2020 09: 24
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    targets at ranges over 1000 nautical miles (1852 km).

    has a high priority and is a scientific and technical task number 1

    and do what no one else has done yet.

    Yes, no one in the American Armed Forces has ever done such an ultra-mega-hyper cut.
  22. bk0010
    bk0010 29 September 2020 10: 05
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    How exactly the range will be brought to the desired thousand miles is a big question
    They will shoot a rocket. Instead of an accelerator - a powder charge in the case.
    For all its complexity, the projectile for the SLRC should be simpler and cheaper than any MRBM or BRMD - both in production and in use.
    Why suddenly? Resistance to overload when fired is very expensive.
    Artillery ammunition, incl. with a range of 1000 miles, it can be detected and tracked in flight, but intercepting it - unlike a rocket - is extremely difficult or even impossible.
    Why? The speeds are the same, the dimensions are comparable (otherwise the fuel will not be enough to reach the target).
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  24. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 29 September 2020 16: 01
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    Let them shoot a thousand miles first. At least experimentally. Ready to neigh. It's easier to launch a cruise missile.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 September 2020 18: 09
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      A cruise missile will be more expensive, since it has a jet engine and it takes much longer to fly - and a gliding projectile in the upper atmosphere does not need a pure aerodynamic glide through a dense atmosphere.
  25. izGOI
    izGOI 29 September 2020 19: 58
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    Yes, that's not what we are talking about. Fly 1000 miles, not fly 1000 miles. In the meantime, how much money will be spent, how many engineers and, most importantly, managers, will sit well on a very, very what salary and with what bonuses ????? THAT'S THE QUESTION!!!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 September 2020 20: 27
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      Compared to the rest of the programs, this will spend a tiny fraction of a billion on everything.
  26. sergej987
    sergej987 30 September 2020 18: 49
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    Here it is, Woodwaffe.
  27. Interdum_silentium_volo
    Interdum_silentium_volo 4 October 2020 18: 23
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    It is easier to shoot down a projectile than a rocket, the rocket has an unpredictable trajectory, unlike the projectile, and the rocket can maneuver ........ the projectile, at best, has minimal deflection and maneuvering capabilities.
    Again, it is more difficult to destroy a classic projectile in theory, it is usually smaller than a rocket and is stronger. The missile usually has stabilizers that can be damaged by shrapnel.
    So it's definitely easier to shoot down than a missile, to discover another issue.

    Yet again
    In addition, the artillery battery is able to conduct prolonged fire without much difficulty and send maximum shells to the target in a minimum time.

    And why not that the MLRS will bury any gun skid? In theory, missiles can be fired in one gulp at once, creating the maximum density of fire per unit of time. And immediately leave the position, which is only a dream for the art.