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Food prices in Russia have risen three times higher than in the European Union

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From January to August this year, the increase in food prices in the Russian Federation in percentage terms has surpassed the corresponding indicator in the European Union. If in Russia the rise in prices during this period amounted to 3,9 percent, then in Europe the rise in prices for food products reached an average of 1,3 percent.


Such information appeared yesterday on the official website of the Federal Statistics Service (Rosstat).

In August 2020, there was a slight decrease in grocery prices, which came after the price increase. In the Russian Federation, it was 1,1 percent, and in the European Union - 0,3%.

According to Rosstat, the highest growth this year was shown by the prices for fruits. Their growth from January to August 2020 was 19,5 percent. Europeans saw an 8,4 percent rise in price. The price of sweets (sugar, chocolate, honey, jams) also rose strongly - by 6,2 percent, while in Europe they rose by only one percent.

But in some categories, the Europeans have overtaken the Russians. For example, meat and products from it in Europe rose by 1,9 percent, and in the Russian Federation - only by 1,7%. Roughly the same thing happened with dairy products, eggs and cheeses. Prices for goods of these categories in Russia rose by 0,9 percent, while in the EU - by as much as XNUMX percent.

At the same time, according to Rosstat, both in the Russian Federation and in the European Union, vegetables were getting cheaper. In the Russian Federation, their price fell by 1,2 percent, and in Europe, even lower - to 3,5 percent.
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  1. Bomb
    Bomb 24 September 2020 10: 28 New
    24
    We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 September 2020 10: 31 New
      37
      Quote: Bomb
      We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.

      don't give an idea ... stop
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 24 September 2020 10: 55 New
        11
        I wonder who raises prices? Excise taxes seem to be going to increase only on cigarettes, and then only from next year. The government is to blame for not regulating pricing and allowing anyone who wants to play with prices ... You need to start with energy ... and taxation. That would have introduced an option when the price was raised above a certain one and the tax in an arithmetic progression increased and vice versa ... And specifically, the government does not bother specifically with prices for food.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 11: 04 New
          -9
          Quote: NIKNN
          I wonder who raises prices?

          Fed by raising the dollar money supply. everything else is a consequence ...
          1. begemot20091
            begemot20091 24 September 2020 11: 12 New
            22
            Quote: NEOZ
            Fed by raising the dollar money supply. everything else is a consequence ...

            bluff-greed. if not welded 500% will strangle. how much is 1 kW? say they are investing in development. how many new hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants, nuclear power plants .... But everyone has vouchers in the "FRAME HANGING"
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 24 September 2020 11: 38 New
              +7
              Quote: begemot20091
              how much is 1 kW?

              I have 7 rubles 45 kopecks Nizhny Novgorod
              1. begemot20091
                begemot20091 24 September 2020 11: 49 New
                20
                Quote: Tiksi-3
                I have 7 rubles 45 kopecks Nizhny Novgorod

                I have less than 3 rubles Kaliningrad, but the question is in the real cost. How much does it cost (let at hydroelectric power station - production of 1 kW). And the CHPP should generally provide heat for free: we pay for electricity, for heat utilization through heating, plus a management company .... We sell electricity to China at 0.40 rubles / kWh. Having reached the consumer and having paid all the fees in China for the layman, the price is 4.5 rubles / kWh. Those. there is no need to build power plants in China, it is easier for them to buy from us, and production waste (atomic) and our country bears all the risks. And Chinese buyers, making a markup for our 40 kopecks and bringing the price up to 4.5 rubles / kWh, keep the profit in their country.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 26 New
                  -11 qualifying.
                  Quote: begemot20091
                  I have less than 3 rubles Kaliningrad, but the question is in the real cost. How much does it cost (let at a hydroelectric power station - production of 1 kW). And the CHP plant should provide heat for free:

                  according to the law of conservation of energy - everything on this planet is free ... according to your logic ...
                2. Polite Moose
                  Polite Moose 24 September 2020 13: 31 New
                  +5
                  Quote: begemot20091
                  We sell electricity to China at 0.40 rubles / kWh. After reaching the consumer and paying all the fees in China for the average person, the price is 4.5 rubles / kWh.

                  You forgot to indicate the voltage level. All flows are for 110 kV and higher. You can buy / sell electricity with a voltage of, for example, 550kV at 0,4 rubles per kWh, but in order for the consumer to use it more than 1 time, it will be necessary to lower the voltage to an acceptable value. And these are substations, power grids, sales and other costs.
                3. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 24 September 2020 17: 30 New
                  0
                  No matter how much 1 kilowatt at the stations is worth - in order to bring it to the consumer, infrastructure and its maintenance are needed.
              2. Andrey Ostroushko
                Andrey Ostroushko 24 September 2020 12: 54 New
                -3
                I have 70 kopecks., Irkutsk region.
                1. fa2998
                  fa2998 24 September 2020 16: 17 New
                  +6
                  There are no such prices in Russia. Do not be misled. wassat wassat
                  1. Andrey Ostroushko
                    Andrey Ostroushko 24 September 2020 16: 57 New
                    +3
                    I will not show my payment, although the Internet is at your fingertips, you could find it. But I will help you https://sbyt.irkutskenergo.com/qa/6748.html
            2. sgapich
              sgapich 24 September 2020 13: 04 New
              0
              Quote: begemot20091
              ... how much is 1 kW? ...

              From 07:00 to 23:00 - 5 rubles 60 kopecks, from 23:00 to 07:00 - 1 ruble 63 kopecks. Moscow, a house with an electric stove.
            3. Charik
              Charik 24 September 2020 20: 29 New
              +2
              kw-ruble 4 I live in a city with a nuclear power plant
        2. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 24 September 2020 13: 18 New
          11
          Quote: NIKNN
          I wonder who raises prices

          He - whose name cannot be pronounced, great and terrible:


          He apparently believes that the devaluation of the ruble does not lead to an increase in the price of food :)
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 24 September 2020 21: 55 New
            23
            Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
            He apparently believes that the devaluation of the ruble does not lead to an increase in the price of food :)

            He believes that the inhabitants are absolutely not smart people and judging by the votes for him, he has every reason for this.
        3. demo
          demo 24 September 2020 14: 38 New
          +6
          It's the government's fault that it doesn't regulate pricing and allows anyone who wants to play with prices ...
          What are you .....
          It is the government that regulates prices.
          A new increased excise tax on fuel was introduced, and prices for everything jumped twice.
          The government, is it bad?
          D. Uren would not have thought of that!
          Our government is crazy!
          As a calculation of a gun without a clear target - they hit while there are shells.
          And they carry the shells and carry them.
        4. Charik
          Charik 24 September 2020 20: 22 New
          +4
          So they eat in their canteens for 3 kopecks, and people, well, people, not that, or, ordinary people like that, are looking for cheaper in five
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 24 September 2020 11: 00 New
        17
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Bomb
        We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.

        don't give an idea ... stop

        The idea has been in the air for a long time. Back in the tale about Cipollino.
        "At the last meeting, the tribunal ruled that not only the land, but also the air in the village is the property of Countess Chery, and therefore everyone who breathes must pay money for renting air. Once a month, Chevalier Tomato went around village houses and made the peasants breathe deeply into In turn, he measured their chest volume after inhalation and exhalation, then calculated and established how much is due from each consumer of air. Kum Pumpkin, who, as you know, sighed very often, paid, of course, the most. "
        But there is some good news. Sberbank, for example, changed its name and logo.

        Gref explains: "The check mark is a symbol of our dedication and focus on the benefits for people. Our circle is a symbol of focusing on the needs of people, creating comfort and opportunities for them."
        In general: Keep your money in Sberbank ... If you have it, of course ...
        1. the most important
          the most important 24 September 2020 11: 42 New
          +9
          Quote: Hyperion
          But there is some good news. Sberbank, for example, changed its name and logo.

          It would be better if he changed Gref. There would be much more benefit!
        2. Mishka78
          Mishka78 24 September 2020 12: 03 New
          +9
          Yeah. And this rebranding will cost them about 25 billion rubles.
          https://www.rbc.ru/finances/21/09/2020/5f68981f9a79474a66723c48?from=newsfeed
          But nicho, the main thing is to keep your money in the savings bank. Under 3% :)
        3. BIABIA
          BIABIA 24 September 2020 12: 04 New
          17
          Sberbank has now become Sberbank. Moscow "daughter" of Sber - Mossber, Chelyabinsk - Chelsber, Irkutsk - Irksber. The names of the "daughters" in Kaluga, Nakhodka and Vorkuta will be announced later.
          1. Ua3qhp
            Ua3qhp 24 September 2020 13: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: BIABIA
            The names of the "daughters" in Kaluga, Nakhodka and Vorkuta will be announced later.

            And Voronezh too.
          2. And why do you need
            And why do you need 25 September 2020 01: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: BIABIA
            Sberbank has now become Sberbank. Moscow "daughter" of Sber - Mossber, Chelyabinsk - Chelsber, Irkutsk - Irksber. The names of the "daughters" in Kaluga, Nakhodka and Vorkuta will be announced later.

            But we can't wait for Krymsber
        4. Yurahip
          Yurahip 24 September 2020 13: 34 New
          +2
          SBER-SPER. Rhymes ....
          Or SPER-GREF-BEER ....
          Or GREF-SBER-SPER ...
          Bank.
        5. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 24 September 2020 14: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: Hyperion
          Gref explains: "The check mark is a symbol of our dedication and focus on the benefits for people. Our circle is a symbol of focusing on the needs of people, creating comfort and opportunities for them."

          On the logo, designed in the tones of the American currency, the graphone is clearly visible flying away into the sunset (to the West) (precisely through the "E").
        6. Charik
          Charik 24 September 2020 20: 28 New
          0
          to replace the logo-sms collected
      3. Angelo Provolone
        Angelo Provolone 24 September 2020 11: 46 New
        +8
        don't give an idea ...

      4. frog
        frog 24 September 2020 13: 28 New
        15
        Air has already tried to rise in price ... 30 p. - in a mask, 5000 p. - without mask wink
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    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 24 September 2020 10: 32 New
      28
      And rain, rain with a thunderstorm! Five Soldos!
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 24 September 2020 10: 38 New
        22
        And so that the deadwood is not forbidden to collect. Something we want too much. I'm afraid the authorities will not agree to such indulgences to the population. Okay, we cross everything out and leave the air.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 24 September 2020 11: 08 New
          16
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          We want something too much.

          Exactly! They will also come up with a tax on thoughts and dreams. Thought crime, as in the novel "1984".
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 24 September 2020 12: 23 New
        +3
        After reading Cipollino aloud at night, he tried to explain to three-year-old children what a tax is laughing
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 24 September 2020 21: 59 New
          20
          Quote: Krasnodar
          After reading Cipollino aloud at night, he tried to explain to three-year-old children what a tax is

          In order for the children to understand, you need to go with them to the tax office, to the court and to the bailiffs, then in their 3 years they will immediately go into opposition!)))
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 September 2020 23: 27 New
            +3
            I have never had a breakdown with the tax office, with the court too (except for the constantly postponed meetings), but there are a lot of problems with the bailiffs - these guys have not even returned their own debts to me (yes, the FSSP) for a month and a half, execution court decisions on debtors drag on for over one and a half years laughing And their combinations with the property of debtors, in order to quickly outbid from the auction and resell - this is generally a fairy tale lol
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 25 September 2020 06: 02 New
              14
              Quote: Krasnodar
              And their combinations with the property of debtors, in order to quickly outbid from the auction and resell - this is generally a fairy tale

              Greedy ones! laughing
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 25 September 2020 12: 38 New
                0
                Rather, scammers)).
            2. Alf
              Alf 25 September 2020 19: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              And their combinations with the property of debtors, in order to quickly outbid from the auction and resell - this is generally a fairy tale

              Are the bailiffs not people? They also want to eat.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 25 September 2020 22: 46 New
                -2
                I agree - only, I think, it would be more correct to agree with me about something like that, to begin with laughing
                1. Alf
                  Alf 25 September 2020 22: 51 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  I agree - only, I think, it would be more correct to agree with me about something like that, to begin with laughing

                  You're not right. The idea of ​​modern power is a little different - we will take a piece for ourselves, and give the rest to you. If something remains ... And if you download the rights, we will take everything, because we are Power.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 25 September 2020 23: 00 New
                    -2
                    The fact of the matter is that the FSSP is not a power, but the lowest level of the executive branch
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 26 September 2020 12: 17 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      The fact of the matter is that the FSSP is not a power, but the lowest level of the executive branch

                      This is the worst thing when from rags to riches.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 26 September 2020 12: 37 New
                        -1
                        Not quite riches laughing and that's to say the least
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 24 September 2020 10: 32 New
      22
      Quote: Bomb
      We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.

      1. credo
        credo 24 September 2020 12: 11 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: Bomb
        We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.


        By the way, about the payment for precipitation.
        Many Russian cities have long ago introduced a fee for the infiltration of precipitation from legal entities, calculated depending on the area of ​​the land plot occupied by such a person. So far, such a fee is not collected from individuals, but in the future everything is possible. You cannot renounce.
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 24 September 2020 10: 42 New
      +2
      who needs to - I'll give plums, a basket, two
      let the food rise in price, if only the money remained with our Buzurgan in Russia, not on yachts
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 24 September 2020 11: 01 New
        +3
        So yachts can also be designed and built in the Russian Federation at shipyards, the main thing is to build at home
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 24 September 2020 14: 54 New
          +1
          definitely over the hill - we have a short sailing season, AND HOLIDAYS IN N. YEAR 10 DAYS - WE NEED TO RELAX
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 01 New
        16
        Quote: antivirus
        who needs to - I'll give plums, a basket, two

        send Volodya away, he is in great need.
    5. Vend
      Vend 24 September 2020 11: 03 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: Bomb
      We do not care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price.

      What's the point in comparing. It's just not ok
    6. smart ass
      smart ass 24 September 2020 14: 38 New
      +5
      What about inflation of 4%
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 02 New
        20
        Quote: Clever man
        What about inflation of 4%

        as well as unemployment 5.
    7. Elephant
      Elephant 24 September 2020 17: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Bomb
      We don't care, the main thing is that air and sunlight do not rise in price

      And the prime tax officer has already sketched and was delighted with the idea you threw
    8. Charik
      Charik 24 September 2020 20: 20 New
      0
      what about the sun laughing -Sun-face shines everyone through the window
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 04 New
        19
        Quote: Charik
        Sun-faced shines through the window to everyone

        to hell with such a wretched star!
  2. zwlad
    zwlad 24 September 2020 10: 30 New
    -13 qualifying.
    By the way, provocative article title.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 24 September 2020 10: 31 New
      16
      Nothing provocative, inflation in Russia is high.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: Kronos
        inflation in Russia is high.

        Officially no.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 06 New
          20
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Officially no.

          officially we have almost no unemployment and the growth of the fall is 0,5%
      2. askort154
        askort154 24 September 2020 11: 27 New
        -4
        Kronos ...Nothing provocative, inflation in Russia is high

        I was not lazy, I looked at the Rosstat data on inflation for 20 years, I print selectively, the most "catchy":
        - 1992 - 2508,8% (how did you survive?)
        - 2000 - 20,1%,
        - 2005 -10,9%,
        - 2010 - 8,78%,
        - 2017 - 2,5% (so far the lowest)
        - 2019 - 3%
        From the beginning of 2020 to today - 2,9% so far.
        The article is really provocative. Comparisons with the EU are selective and not correct. There are 27 countries, and each country has its own "troubles", as well as our regions. It's like comparing the standard of living in Moscow and Uryupinsk.
        1. Guru
          Guru 24 September 2020 11: 49 New
          11
          It's like comparing the standard of living in Moscow and Uryupinsk.
          This is not a comparison of the standard of living, but the level of prices.
        2. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 24 September 2020 13: 28 New
          +7
          Quote: askort154
          1992 - 2508,8% (how did you survive?)
          - 2000 - 20,1%,
          - 2005 -10,9%,
          - 2010 - 8,78%,
          - 2017 - 2,5% (so far the lowest)
          - 2019 - 3%


          Yes, to believe statistics is not to respect yourself
          since 2007, Putin has devalued the ruble almost threefold:
          here a friend was not too lazy to count on a grocery basket Checked how much more expensive it became to live in Russia in 13 years:
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 September 2020 10: 32 New
      +9
      Quote: zwlad
      By the way, provocative article title.

      Is it a "provocation"?
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 24 September 2020 10: 39 New
        +3
        read carefully.
        grew three times higher

        if you do not read carefully, you can interpret that they have tripled. not a provocation?
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 24 September 2020 10: 50 New
          +5
          No, not a provocation. Just get creative with copy-paste smile
          Original:
          Food prices in the Russian Federation from January to August grew three times faster than in the EU

          VO version:
          Food prices in Russia have risen three times higher than in the European Union
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 53 New
          15
          Quote: zwlad
          if not read carefully

          And if you don't read at all, everything will be fine! wassat
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 24 September 2020 13: 11 New
            +9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            if not read

            Basically, if you don't buy anything, then the prices are normal! tongue
            1. Charik
              Charik 24 September 2020 20: 35 New
              +4
              And if you don't eat anything, you can sell your food and earn laughing
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 10 New
                19
                Quote: Charik
                And if you don't eat anything, you can sell your food and earn

                You can also sell a kidney, well, something else.
      2. Campanella
        Campanella 24 September 2020 10: 52 New
        -8
        Provocation comparison with Europe.
        1. strelokmira
          strelokmira 25 September 2020 02: 58 New
          +2
          Provocation comparison with Europe

          Yes, we must also close the border, otherwise people will roll to Europe, and then excite the minds of those around them - and what are the prices there, the same as in the Russian Federation or cheaper? The Kremlin bots told us that they have horses ... wink
    3. bober1982
      bober1982 24 September 2020 10: 37 New
      -14 qualifying.
      Quote: zwlad
      By the way, provocative article title.

      This is not even a provocative article, just a provocative stuffing.
      Clumsy work.
      1. Postum
        Postum 24 September 2020 12: 21 New
        +1
        Actually, living in Russia is good as in Europe in general a provocation
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 24 September 2020 12: 26 New
          -6
          Quote: Postum
          Actually, living in Russia is good as in Europe in general a provocation

          How many classes did you finish? Execution cannot be pardoned, put the comma correctly.
    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 September 2020 10: 41 New
      12
      Quote: zwlad
      By the way, provocative article title.

      Statistical data regarding Russia looks like a provocation
      1. Hiller
        Hiller 24 September 2020 12: 12 New
        +1
        "eating lies, blatant lies and statistics" .. a dictum attributed to many Western economists and even Mark Twain ...
    5. Well done
      Well done 24 September 2020 10: 48 New
      +5
      This article is our harsh reality. But why is "Military Review" diluted with such content?
    6. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 11: 06 New
      -8
      Quote: zwlad
      By the way, provocative article title.

      this is for tension in society, then you just need to bring up a match.
      the revolution is being prepared.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 14 New
        15
        Quote: NEOZ
        this is for tension in society, then you just need to bring up a match.
        the revolution is being prepared.

        where do you come from such commentators? request
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 06 New
          -3
          Quote: Malyuta
          where do you come from such commentators?

          GUGB NKVD USSR
    7. tech3030
      tech3030 24 September 2020 11: 27 New
      18
      And what is the provocation? Your salary is growing faster than prices ?!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 40 New
        -7
        Quote: tech3030
        And what is the provocation? Your salary is growing faster than prices ?!

        article: "a young man walked and died ... it's terrible that people die just like that ..."
        goal: to increase nervousness (people then die), respectively, the higher the nervousness, the higher the aggression in society. some do not restrain themselves and the growth of conflict genes turns out.
        truth: "a man walked for 97 years and died of natural causes."
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 25 September 2020 14: 05 New
          +3
          In your opinion, "head in the sand" is better? A slave position developed over the years?
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 30 New
    13
    I am worried that the average salary in the country lags behind inflation on a regular basis ... and most importantly does not correspond to prices ... when compared with the same Europe ... very low salaries ... the labor of ordinary workers has practically depreciated ... the gap between the salary of a deputy The State Duma or a federal official and the salary of a simple hard worker exceeds by two orders of magnitude ... I'm not talking hehe about effective managers ... with their golden parachutes ... it's very bad.
    The source of the information in the article is extremely dubious ... relying on Wikipedia for serious articles is risky.
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 24 September 2020 10: 32 New
      +1
      Actually, this is the source of the photos indicated.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 September 2020 10: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      I am concerned that the average salary in the country lags behind inflation on a regular basis.
      The source of the information in the article is extremely dubious ... relying on Wikipedia for serious articles is risky.

      "Pedia" of course so-so "source", but in general it is so.
    3. Rubi0
      Rubi0 24 September 2020 11: 05 New
      -8
      So you definitely haven't confused the terms State and Employer? go ask your Employer for salary, insurance, free lunches and a wellness package, The state and officials in this matter can only grant you the right to a rally and security in the person of a police outfit so that you do not get shot there like bastards.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 10 New
        +9
        So you definitely haven't confused the terms State and Employer? go ask your Employer for salary, insurance, free meals and a wellness package

        Not confused ... if you look at the root, the employer may well increase the employee's salary, but he is tied by hand with the same extortions and taxes from the state ... this is clear as God's day ... which are still superimposed on local reasons in the form of corruption, bandits in form and without form and other factors.
        The main source of inflation is the state itself, no one has yet decided how to overcome this attack.
        1. Konstantin Shevchenko
          Konstantin Shevchenko 24 September 2020 11: 19 New
          +2
          In which country is it easy for an employer?
        2. Rubi0
          Rubi0 24 September 2020 11: 36 New
          -5
          Well, of course, you have the listed problems, but are these your problems, and not the employer's with its economic and legal departments, especially since now many companies have foreign capital and they solve a lot on a completely different level? As an example, the same chips, cola, Pepsi, juices are poured by factories on the same Tetrapakov equipment with the same qualifications in the Russian Federation, in Poland or Turkey, and the salary is different everywhere, although there are instrumentation and controllers for the whole plant + a couple of operators for each a line that serves the entire multi-million dollar country. Moreover, the German and Belgian adjusters are paid very different amounts than the locals, not to mention the riders
        3. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 38 New
          -4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          the employer may well increase the salary of the employee, but he is bound by the hands of the same extortions and taxes from the state ...

          Is it not this money that the army / teachers / doctors / Ministry of Internal Affairs / Ministry of Emergency Situations and others receive salaries? Isn't this money used to build tanks / planes / ships / missiles? ...... oil instead of guns? ...
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 24 September 2020 22: 17 New
            17
            Quote: NEOZ
            Is it not this money that the army / teachers / doctors / Ministry of Internal Affairs / Ministry of Emergency Situations and others receive salaries? Isn't this money used to build tanks / planes / ships / missiles? ...... oil instead of guns? ...

            And where does the money go from the sale of resources ???
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 11 New
              -2
              Quote: Malyuta
              And where does the money go from the sale of resources ???

              budget: FNS 1/3, FTS 1/3, NDPI 1/5 the rest other income.
      2. Bessik
        Bessik 24 September 2020 11: 29 New
        +6
        And municipal enterprises are not the state?
        1. Rubi0
          Rubi0 24 September 2020 13: 55 New
          -8
          and the private trader does not need you? Well, maybe you are such a specialist that you are worth nothing in the labor market?
      3. unaha
        unaha 24 September 2020 12: 13 New
        +5
        So in the country, the main employer is the state, according to various estimates, up to half of the working-age population works for the state in one way or another.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 41 New
          -5
          Quote: unaha
          So in the country, the main employer is the state, according to various estimates, up to half of the working-age population works for the state in one way or another.

          no need to juggle! the state is the customer for 50% of the work / services in the country, but not the employer !!!! private companies work under the state order !!!!!
          1. unaha
            unaha 25 September 2020 09: 28 New
            +2
            "The state is the largest shareholder of the Russian market. The share of state-owned companies that disclose their ownership structure in the Moscow Exchange index reaches at least 45%, and in many of the largest and most liquid assets, the Russian Federation owns a significant part of the shares."
            https://bcs-express.ru/novosti-i-analitika/kompanii-s-gosudarstvennym-uchastiem-skol-ko-ikh


            I will not look for infographics, but you can estimate the total number of civil servants, army, police, in general, all state employees + employees of enterprises with the participation of the state.
      4. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 September 2020 12: 23 New
        +9
        Quote: Rubi0
        So you definitely haven't confused the terms State and Employer? go ask your Employer for salary, insurance, free lunches and a wellness package, The state and officials in this matter can only grant you the right to a rally and security in the person of a police outfit so that you do not get shot there like bastards.

        Maybe the state should control it after all? Otherwise, why would I need a state that only collects taxes from me, but does not want to do anything?
        1. Rubi0
          Rubi0 24 September 2020 14: 01 New
          -3
          If the Business has a failed marketing campaign and monetization is not thought out, how will the State influence this? Not to give permission to open a business or how, that's just wondering how you represent it?
          1. tech3030
            tech3030 24 September 2020 17: 09 New
            +6
            Are you pulling the law's strap for the state?
          2. NEOZ
            NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 43 New
            -4
            Quote: Rubi0
            just wondering how you represent it?

            They simply imagine: to change the government until they have a billion .... don't care about the rest!
      5. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 24 September 2020 13: 12 New
        +7
        Quote: Rubi0
        So you definitely haven't confused the terms State and Employer? go ask your Employer for salary, insurance, free lunches and a wellness package, The state and officials in this matter can only grant you the right to a rally and security in the person of a police outfit so that you do not get shot there like bastards.

        If the state has nothing to do with, what for me is such a state? The state should provide a real living wage, and count the salaries of state employees and pensions from it. At our factory, the salary for 5 years is not only not raised, but lowered. Rogozin's managers got to a once prosperous enterprise. but audit after audit. soon there will be no one to work. yes, the pension has been pushed aside. I would have dumped with pleasure
      6. Rubi0
        Rubi0 24 September 2020 13: 41 New
        -8
        By the number of minuses, you understand how bad things are in people’s brains ... it’s banal to squeeze eggs for the management and knock out their own salary.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 46 New
          -4
          Quote: Rubi0
          By the number of minuses, you understand how bad things are in people's brains ...

          because their goal is not to understand the reasons, but to increase the degree of tension ...
          preparing for an outburst of uncontrolled chaos ... by the way ...
        2. Alf
          Alf 24 September 2020 18: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: Rubi0
          go corny to pinch eggs

          You tried ? As a result ?
          Quote: Rubi0
          can't knock out their own salary

          After such a request, the management did not point you to the personnel department?
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 24 September 2020 21: 51 New
            -2
            As a result, I came to the right amount, and changed the civil service and a couple of companies, but I know how much you can sell yourself for
            1. Alf
              Alf 24 September 2020 21: 55 New
              +4
              Quote: Rubi0
              As a result, I came to the right amount, but changed the civil service and a couple of companies,

              And why did you not press eggs to the authorities at once, initially? And judging by the civil service and a couple of companies, you were pointed to the personnel department. Why did they leave? Have the authorities not found eggs to squeeze?
              1. Rubi0
                Rubi0 24 September 2020 22: 15 New
                -3
                if you press them strongly, then it is already uncomfortable to work in a team yourself, even after knocking out the desired amount
      7. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 36 New
        -5
        Quote: Rubi0
        So you definitely haven't confused the terms State and Employer?

        yes here 90% swims in terms and definitions ...
    4. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 11: 33 New
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I am concerned that the average salary in the country lags behind inflation on a regular basis ...

      in vain do you worry ... your future death does not bother you!
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      and most importantly does not match the prices ...

      this is subjective
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      when compared with the same Europe ...

      it's not correct to compare with Europe, it's not Europe that collapsed 30 years ago ... it's not Europe that lost the Cold War ...
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      very low salary ...

      the highest in the CIS, at the level of poland ... not to mention the different romania / moldova and bulgaria ...
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      the labor of ordinary workers has practically depreciated ...

      well, nevertheless, they wanted to rot a little in capitalism ... Petrosyan will not let me lie ...
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      the gap between the salary of a State Duma deputy or a federal official and the salary of a simple hard worker is two orders of magnitude higher ...

      all over the world so! are you not satisfied with the laws of nature?
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I'm not talking hehe about effective managers ... with their golden parachutes ... very bad.

      on the contrary, it's very good! .... if there were no parachutes, sooner or later Gorbachev would sell the country for $ 1 million ...
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The source of the information in the article is extremely dubious ... relying on Wikipedia for serious articles is risky.

      the purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, and not to carry the truth.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 40 New
        -7
        Great answers with a bit of sarcasm ... appreciated. smile
        the purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, and not to carry the truth.

        Perhaps so ... do not forget in 2021 there will be elections to the State Duma of Russia and the first volleys of information war on this object of Russian power have already begun, including on our forum in the form of throwing various articles of a provocative sense and the emergence of members of the forum of unknown origin. But how it becomes interesting ... life is seething in all its glory ... so many antagonistic collisions .... beauty.
        Here one of our deputy started talking about the subversive role of the social network HEHTA, which in Belarus has done a great job by inciting the local people against Lukashenka ... a very interesting topic.
      2. unaha
        unaha 24 September 2020 12: 15 New
        10
        "The purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, not to convey the truth." - if you close your eyes, plug your ears and be silent, the tension will not grow? Will the causes of stress disappear? Or is it still necessary to inform, discuss and eliminate the causes of problems?
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 24 New
          -4
          Quote: unaha
          "The purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, not to convey the truth." - if you close your eyes, plug your ears and be silent, the tension will not grow? Will the causes of stress disappear?

          you are manipulating by equating truth with closing your eyes and ears.
          maybe it is worth writing articles about causes, not effects?
          1. unaha
            unaha 24 September 2020 12: 32 New
            10
            Of course it's worth it. But hushing up problems (as well as their causes), manipulating statistics does not benefit anyone in the future. I have to keep a "family budget" and take into account all expenses for more than one year. Real inflation for basic goods and services is much higher than the official one. Of course, the official one also includes not everyday costs, which reduces the overall values, but the vast majority of the costs of hotels and air tickets are not very interesting.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 14: 01 New
              -4
              Quote: unaha
              Real inflation for basic goods and services is much higher than the official one.

              let's in fact:
              1.we get poorer
              2. everyone in the world is getting poorer, we are getting poorer the slowest of all !!!!
              Why did you decide that when everyone gets poorer, we should get rich?
              1. unaha
                unaha 24 September 2020 14: 34 New
                +3
                "we are getting poorer the slowest of all" - this is hardly. Although inflation in our country has decreased in recent years (just not least due to the withdrawal of money from the population), it is definitely higher than in developed countries.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 09 New
                  -3
                  Quote: unaha
                  but definitely higher than in developed countries.

                  research can you publish?
                  1. unaha
                    unaha 24 September 2020 15: 37 New
                    +2
                    https://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=prc_hicp_manr&lang=en
                    1. NEOZ
                      NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 49 New
                      -1
                      Quote: unaha
                      https://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=prc_hicp_manr&lang=en

                      to be honest, I did not understand anything ..... but very interesting!
              2. Alf
                Alf 24 September 2020 18: 53 New
                +4
                Quote: NEOZ
                1.we get poorer

                Not everyone gets poorer.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 24 September 2020 22: 33 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  1.we get poorer

                  Not everyone gets poorer.

                  Interestingly, the miner doesn't believe Forbes magazine and official statistics?
                2. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 14 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Alf
                  Not everyone gets poorer.

                  announce the world list!
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 25 September 2020 19: 54 New
                    +2
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    Quote: Alf
                    Not everyone gets poorer.

                    announce the world list!

                    When there is nothing to object, verbiage begins.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 29 September 2020 08: 58 New
            0
            Quote: NEOZ
            Quote: unaha
            "The purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, not to convey the truth." - if you close your eyes, plug your ears and be silent, the tension will not grow? Will the causes of stress disappear?

            you are manipulating by equating truth with closing your eyes and ears.
            maybe it is worth writing articles about causes, not effects?

            Do you want to know the reasons, if you please. Short-sighted foreign policy, relations with most countries are spoiled, hence the sanctions and restrictions, the country is slowly turning into a rogue like Iran and North Korea. Huge spending on helping countries with a dubious reputation-Syria, Venezuela, Belarus, Armenia. money in megaprojects such as Nord Stream 2, Power of Siberia, Turkish Stream. vague economic policy within the country - non-freezing of the growth of tariffs of natural monopolies, no indexation of wages, rejection of the progressive tax scale.
      3. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 September 2020 12: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: NEOZ
        the purpose of the article is to increase tension in society, and not to carry the truth.

        Are you saying that the entire article is false? Then please provide your details. I regularly go to the store, I know what and how much has grown in price during the period of the so-called "pandemic".
        1. Strannik96
          Strannik96 24 September 2020 13: 49 New
          0
          Do you go to another store in the EU opposite to find out how much prices have increased in the EU?
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 25 September 2020 05: 40 New
            +3
            Quote: Strannik96
            Do you go to another store in the EU opposite to find out how much prices have increased in the EU?

            We have two factors at work - inflation itself and the dollar exchange rate. Well, of course, everything is fine on TV. If you want to calculate the real situation, think about how many kg of this or that product you can buy here and there for a salary
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 25 September 2020 12: 45 New
              -4
              Quote: Pilat2009
              We have two factors at work - inflation itself and the dollar exchange rate.

              do you even know how the exchange rate is formed?
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 28 September 2020 12: 15 New
                0
                Quote: NEOZ
                Quote: Pilat2009
                We have two factors at work - inflation itself and the dollar exchange rate.

                do you even know how the exchange rate is formed?

                What does the formation of the exchange rate have to do with the price increase, and prices are pegged to the dollar. In addition to the rise in the price of gasoline, which automatically raises the price of everything and communal services, which grows steadily 2 times a year, industrial goods also become more expensive. the euro does not collapse on its own
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 28 September 2020 13: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  What does the formation of the course have to do with it?

                  and besides, that you do not understand the cause-and-effect relationship!
                  you are confusing goals with tools!
                  due to misunderstanding of the current situation, you are causing a panic !!!
                  ps
                  why don't you panic about the coming of cold weather in the next 2 months?
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                      2. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 29 September 2020 12: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        That is, the rise in prices is not a fact of a fall in living standards?

                        no, it's not!
                        ps
                        if we consider a more long-term period, say, 20 years, we will see the following: over the course of 20 years, the ruble's exchange rate against the dollar has been falling constantly, food prices have grown constantly ... but the standard of living has risen to heaven in relation to 2000m ... ...
                        Also, I want to draw your attention to the fact that the standard of living does not appear out of nowhere and does not disappear into nowhere, the standard of living has a cumulative effect and it must be considered not momentarily, but in the medium-long term.
                  2. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 29 September 2020 11: 38 New
                    0
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    living standards of the population are falling

                    if not difficult, give a comparative analysis of the living standards of the Russian Federation with the countries of the CIS / Eastern Europe / at your discretion, as well as the level of decline in these countries.
      4. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 56 New
        -5
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Are you saying that the whole article is false?

        the article is manipulative.
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Then please provide your details.

        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        I regularly go to the store, I know what and how much has increased in price over the period

        I do not deny growth, I just point out that this is not subject to either Putin or anyone else in the Russian Federation.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 September 2020 14: 39 New
          +5
          Quote: NEOZ
          I do not deny growth, I just point out that this is not subject to either Putin or anyone else in the Russian Federation.

          I think you are wrong. I'm not even talking about changing the socio-economic formation. Was it really impossible not to raise electricity tariffs? Was it really impossible to strengthen the ruble? Was it really impossible to introduce a moratorium on price increases for socially important goods? I am only talking about the fact that the duties of the capitalist state, among other things, include concern for the welfare of ordinary citizens. If the state cannot and does not want to restrict the appetites of large companies, does not create jobs, following the lead of corporations selling raw materials, it does not care about the stability of the national currency. Then more and more people ask themselves the question, do we need such a state.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 07 New
            -7
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Was it really impossible not to raise electricity tariffs?

            how else to make you use energy economically?
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Was it really impossible to strengthen the ruble?

            what for? by withdrawing the ruble mass? by investing free currency in gold reserves?
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Was it really impossible to introduce a moratorium on price increases for socially important goods?

            of course not! this leads to the complete disappearance of these goods from the shelves!
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            includes concern for the welfare of ordinary citizens.

            look at the growth in the welfare of Russians since 2000, you will be shocked by the growth !!!!
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            takes care of the stability of the national currency.

            this is just a tool, not a goal!
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            But do we need such a state.

            without this state you are doomed to begging abruptly Ukrainian !!! the West will not give us more chances ....... we will arrange a coup, the West will not leave us wet ...
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 September 2020 20: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: NEOZ
              what for? by withdrawing the ruble mass? by investing free currency in gold reserves?

              That is, I should be happy for a dollar at 78?
              Quote: NEOZ
              without this state you are doomed to begging abruptly Ukrainian !!!

              We are doomed to begging even with such state administration.
              Quote: NEOZ
              we will arrange a coup, the west will not leave us wet ...

              Well, right, if you remove the Western proteges, of course there will be problems with the West.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 26 New
                -3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                That is, I should be happy for a dollar at 78?

                do not attach such importance to the course. it does not directly depend on the RF.
                better do more useful things: yourself / children!
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                We are doomed to begging even with such state administration.

                Russians are one of the richest in Eastern Europe! what else do you want?
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Well, right, if you remove the Western proteges

                the paradox is that the West also wants to remove the "henchmen of the West" ...... just like you!
        2. tech3030
          tech3030 24 September 2020 17: 14 New
          +6
          Do you all believe in a good king and bad boyars? I think you are not even mistaken and deliberately want to mislead people. Just compare prices for half a year. And also the quality of the products ... this is a separate topic.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 32 New
            -6
            Quote: tech3030
            Do you all believe in a good king and bad boyars?

            who are they?
            what do you mean?
            1. tech3030
              tech3030 24 September 2020 20: 17 New
              +6
              The one who is smarter on your avatar, change it to something else.
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 27 New
                -4
                Quote: tech3030
                The one who is on your avatar is smarter

                and who is on your profile picture? thief?
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 24 September 2020 10: 31 New
    15
    Overproduction and dependence of imports on currency fluctuations.
    More interesting is the domestic statistics on markups and markups in trade networks. But the FAS is silent as a partisan as if a 300-600% markup on potatoes bought by chains in their own region is normal.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 56 New
      14
      Quote: g1washntwn
      But the FAS is silent like a partisan like 300-600

      FAS is a manual balloon on a leash at large "businessmen". When the price of propane rose by 80% in a month, none of those in power even said a word.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 28 New
        -6
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        When the price of propane rose by 80% in a month, none of those in power even said a word.

        for what purpose do you need propane?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 13: 17 New
          +2
          And for what purpose are you interested in?
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 14 New
            -5
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And for what purpose are you interested in?

            to understand your butane needs.
            suddenly you need butane for 1 ruble a year, and now you will pay 1,80 rubles a year ....... how will the loss of 80 kopecks in the annual budget affect.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 15: 21 New
              +6
              Quote: NEOZ
              to understand your butane needs.

              You were originally asking about propane! wink
              You will decide, these are different gases. laughing I buy propane for different purposes, I have HBO, and my mother's gas stove is on propane. And the heating is on wood.
              We have been waiting for main gas since the tenth year, contrary to the Russian proverb "They wait for the promised three years."
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 24 September 2020 18: 53 New
                -6
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I buy propane for different purposes, I have HBO, and my mother's gas stove is on propane.

                Well, how ruinous has gas become? ...
                gas is expensive - go on gasoline !!!!!
                and for mom once a quarter you can spend more on a thousand !!!!
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 21: 17 New
                  +2
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  Well, how ruinous has gas become? ...

                  I wrote above - 80%. Or do you neglect attentiveness in licking the power? wink
                  Quote: NEOZ
                  gas is expensive - go on gasoline !!!!!

                  Wah, well done! Offset! good
                  Some creatures have no conscience, they sell their homeland, in the best traditions of False Dmitry. They work out 30 pieces of silver, without looking back at their people.
                  Do you agree? wink
                  PS Beria from the avatar remove, do not dirty the great man.
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 25 September 2020 12: 23 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I wrote above - 80%

                    I did not mean percentages, but natural numbers
                  2. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 37 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Wah, well done! Offset!

                    gas is now 2 times cheaper than gasoline !!!!! what are you unhappy with?
                    he can't be free !!!
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 26 New
      -8
      Quote: g1washntwn
      But the FAS is silent as a partisan as if a 300-600% markup on potatoes bought by chains in their own region is normal.

      Have you ever been in the retail business of a perishable?
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 24 September 2020 12: 42 New
        +6
        Quote: NEOZ
        Have you ever been in the retail business of a perishable?

        There - no. With prices in the housing and utilities sector - yes. I have a direct idea of ​​what is "screwed in" there.
        My hacienda potato lies neatly until May and I eat it all winter. I can share my storage experience with the "retail perishable business". What do we also represent in these extra charges, for example:
        - Why have the prices of goods increased?
        - So the dollar jumped.
        - What about domestic ones?
        - So we carry them on imported cars.

        ... and don't forget about the pension to ensure "personal liberal communism".
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 14: 10 New
          -3
          Quote: g1washntwn
          My hacienda potatoes lie neatly until May and eat them all winter. I can share my storage experience with the "retail perishable business".

          every gopher in the field is an agronomist.
          Please share with us your inventions on the storage of 1000 tons of potatoes.
          and answer the following questions:
          1.location
          2. performance characteristics of the building in accordance with sanpin and other.
          3.number of staff
          4. taxes / salary
          5. annual plan of warehouse occupancy.
          6.% product spoilage
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 24 September 2020 14: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: NEOZ
            please share your inventions with us

            Your approval is up to you and the estimate. Otherwise, say hello to the rodents you named.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 30 New
              -5
              Quote: g1washntwn
              with you and the estimate.

              everything is clear with you ...
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 25 September 2020 06: 59 New
                +2
                Quote: NEOZ
                Quote: g1washntwn
                with you and the estimate.

                everything is clear with you ...

                It is clear that the consumer will pay for all the waste, but as far as storage back in the 90s, they were amazed at the Dutch storage technologies and milk yield. And they even tried to implement
  • frruc
    frruc 24 September 2020 10: 33 New
    10
    I think that retail trade networks played a significant role in the rise in prices. Particularly large of them are with foreign capital. And still insufficient number of storages. So that apples cost 100-150 r / kg, and this is in the apple country!
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 29 New
      -11 qualifying.
      Quote: frruc
      I believe that retail trade networks played a significant role in the rise in prices.

      on the coffee grounds you wondered?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 33 New
      -6
      Quote: frruc
      So that apples cost 100-150 r / kg, and this is in the apple country!

      I suggest you plant an apple orchard ... and apples will be FREE for you !!!!!!
      1. frruc
        frruc 24 September 2020 13: 30 New
        +4
        Thanks for the advice. Already planted, and not only apple trees. Ready to sell at 20r / kg.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 34 New
          -6
          Quote: frruc
          Already planted, and not only apple trees.

          if you are not interested in apples, why did you get excited about 100 / 150r per kg?
          you are Lenin, who, as you know, was not from a very poor family, but fought for the poor workers ...
          1. frruc
            frruc 24 September 2020 20: 50 New
            +3
            Because the price does not match the product. Apples are a conventional example. This is a clear bias in pricing. Or take, for example, cheese 700r / kg. Everything is normal here: cows, feed, milking, production, transportation, etc.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 25 September 2020 13: 40 New
              -4
              Quote: frruc
              Because the price does not match the product.

              textbook "economics" in hand, then we will discuss what does not correspond to what!
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 24 September 2020 10: 35 New
    -34 qualifying.
    Our grandfathers in the besieged Leningrad and did not endure that. And only liberals, bulkheads and hipsters will whine from a decrease in life comfort.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 24 September 2020 10: 38 New
      19
      Are you hinting that the people were surrounded by enemies and fascists?
      1. pereselenec
        pereselenec 24 September 2020 10: 39 New
        -16 qualifying.
        Quote: paul3390
        Are you hinting that the people were surrounded by enemies and fascists?


        Along the borders, there are only traitors and NATO bases. Don't you watch TV?
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 24 September 2020 10: 39 New
          17
          And within the borders - like what, some national benefactors?
          1. pereselenec
            pereselenec 24 September 2020 10: 40 New
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: paul3390
            And within the borders - like what, some national benefactors?

            Within the country, what 86% of us voted for and what, according to this logic, 86% of Russians are quite happy with.
            1. Igoresha
              Igoresha 24 September 2020 11: 09 New
              +1
              Your sarcasm miners do not understand, it should be simpler. more approachable))
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 14 New
                +6
                Your sarcasm miners don't understand

                Of course they do not understand ... that Ivan is proposing something further ... to endure further? what
                Well, where is the limit to this patience ... hehe hehe endure to show the liberals and the bulk of Kuzkin's mother ... it is difficult to understand of course such logic.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 44 New
      16
      Our grandfathers in the besieged Leningrad and did not endure that.

      Then our grandfathers knew why it was necessary to go through all the hardships and suffering.
      Now tell me why to do this? ... so that the next bourgeois will collect another billion in his money-box ... how many billionaires will Russia stand on its neck? ... I see no reason to strain now ... for what? ... for a penny salaries ... depending on how chic our Russian bourgeoisie with unjustly acquired fortunes, you know, now they are the real masters of Russia ... the rest of ordinary citizens are entitled to a penny pension, unless of course they live to see it ... The State Duma, with its pension laws, will do everything to prevent this from happening pushing back the retirement age.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 47 New
        -6
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Now tell me why to do this? ..

        because we live very well ...
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        how many billionaires can Russia stand on its necks? ...

        the bigger, the better!
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I see no reason to strain now ... for what? ...

        many have something to lose ... children, for example ... during the civil war there were more than 5 million homeless children ... children without parents ... their parents were killed for wanting to live better ... the result was a bloody bath of 20 million . killed, plundered / devastated country ...
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Russian bourgeois with ill-gotten fortunes

        this is subjective ...
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        the rest of ordinary citizens are entitled to a penny pension, unless of course they live to see it ...

        I propose to study the formation of a pension fund, and then, if you have any questions, discuss it.
        I will give an example:
        there was one village in which 50 families (100 people) lived, did not give birth to children.
        worked in the field, the harvest was divided equally among all.
        retirement age came to them, everyone sat down on the stove ... they are waiting for their pension (part of the harvest) ...
        question: WHO WILL MAKE THE HARVEST ???????
    3. Roman13579
      Roman13579 24 September 2020 11: 05 New
      +2
      only liberals will whine from a decrease in life comfort,

      Ivan Too subtle ..)) I'm afraid not many will understand ..
      And for those who are against the bulk and are not happy with inflation, in general, the template will break ..))
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 16 New
        +6
        And for those who are against the bulk and are not happy with inflation, in general, the template will break ..))

        I’m just one of these ... but I don’t observe a break in the template ... I can’t only understand whose Ivan will be ... as the tsar-father used to say ... whose slave will you be ... who is your boyar? smile
        1. Roman13579
          Roman13579 24 September 2020 11: 35 New
          0
          I can't just understand whose Ivan will be

          Yes, this is not about Ivan ..))
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 51 New
            +3
            Yes, this is not about Ivan ..))

            Yes ... here we are talking about Ivan's speeches ... smile
        2. Roman13579
          Roman13579 24 September 2020 11: 58 New
          -3
          whine from lower life comfort there will be only liberals, piled up


          who is against bulk and not happy about inflation -


          I'm not happy with inflation - you whine from a decrease in life comfort - bulk ..))
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 24 September 2020 12: 00 New
            +3
            Aha smile ... I whined ... I whine and I will whine to people like you ... whose dearest you will be ... I just don't understand your belonging.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 50 New
        -5
        Quote: Roman13579
        And for those who are against the bulk and are not happy with inflation, in general, the template will break ..))

        cheap manipulation !!!!
    4. frruc
      frruc 24 September 2020 11: 05 New
      13
      Let's live like in besieged Leningrad! You won't last a month. And the fact that prices are rising is a fact.
    5. Varyag71
      Varyag71 24 September 2020 11: 39 New
      +1
      Something new in the training manual.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 51 New
        -5
        Quote: Varyag71
        Something new in the training manual.

        definitely a new level of manipulation !!!!!!
    6. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 31 New
      -5
      Quote: pereselenec
      And whine from a decrease in life comfort

      noble trolling ...
      but this does not negate the fact that the living standard of the Russian Federation is the highest in the CIS and Eastern Europe (at the level of Poland).
      also, it is not clear on what basis the citizens of the Russian Federation should live better?
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 24 September 2020 12: 59 New
        10
        You are not telling the truth))) the standard of living in Poland is 37th in the world, the Russian Federation is 60th .. is this one level? On what basis should we live better than Poland? yes, at least, for example, on the fact that they don’t have nearly as many resources as we do .. they don’t have anything that we don’t have, but we have a lot - which they don’t have ..
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 14: 38 New
          -6
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          You are not telling the truth)))

          I only speak the truth!!! even bitter !!!!
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          the standard of living in Poland - 37th place in the world, the Russian Federation - 60th .. is it one level?

          in the same rating:
          67 place Russia
          65th place Ukraine (the poorest country in Europe)
          53rd place Georgia (the poorest country in Europe, excluding Ukraine
          41 place Rumymiya
          39th place Belarus
          22nd place Lithuania .........
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          yes, at least, for example, on the fact that they do not have nearly as many resources as we do.

          resources alone are not enough! Iraq / Libya / Syria is an example!
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          they have nothing that we do not have

          they have a US base and a $ 60 billion loan.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 24 September 2020 15: 23 New
            +7
            Your rating is definitely out of touch with reality, Georgia, Ukraine cannot overtake us ... http://worldgeo.ru/lists/?id=28&page=3 This is closer to the truth ... Georgia - 81st place, Ukraine - 80, Russia - 60 ..
            Well, since they have a loan and a base ... they pay for it, but we don't .. is it logical? then we should be better .. And then Iraq if we are about Poland and Russia .. I don’t catch your logic ..
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 19: 03 New
              -5
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              I am not your logic

              no need to include dunno
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              And what does Iraq have to do with it if we are talking about Poland and Russia ..

              you mentioned resources, there are plenty of them in Iraq / Libya / Syria - so it's not about resources!
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Well, since they have a loan and a base ... they pay for it, but we do not .. is it logical?

              no, Poles live no worse than us only because their standard of living is subsidized by other EU countries and the USA.
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              then we should be better ..

              no, nobody subsidizes us ... they just bred us for cannons ... and we are forced to build cannons instead of oil ...
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 24 September 2020 19: 38 New
                +4
                1. You initially said that the CIS lives at the level of Poland, I answered and came to the conclusion that the level of Poland is higher.
                2. You said - "resources alone are not enough! Iraq / Libya / Syria is an example of this!" Well, answer, since the speech was brought up, this is your statement, not mine .. what else does Poland have, but we do not, that the standard of living is higher there? subsidies? see item 3. something else, so what?
                3.https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt Russia - debt 450 billion, Poland - 350 billion, i.e. their debt is less than ours with all our resources ..
                4. What do you want to prove at all, Lawrence? or a dispute for the sake of a dispute?
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 24 September 2020 21: 40 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  1.You originally said that the CIS lives at the level of Poland

                  I said that the level of the Russian Federation is higher than the CIS, at the level of Poland !!!!!
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  2. You said - "resources alone are not enough! Iraq / Libya / Syria is an example of this!" Well, tell me that the standard of living is higher there? subsidies? see item 3. something else, so what?

                  I already wrote that the standard of living in the Russian Federation is comparable to the Polish one.
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  3. Russia - debt 450 billion, Poland - 350 billion, i.e. their debt is less than we have with all our resources ..

                  why didn't you indicate the debt per capita? (Poland $ 9000 / RF $ 3000) i.e. Pole's debt is 3 times higher! why was it not indicated in% of GDP? (Poland 71% / RF40%).
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  4. Do you want to prove anything,

                  that it is a sin to complain about life when 30 years ago your country was fragmented and we were left with 40% of the past.
                  ps
                  the level of real well-being in the Russian Federation is growing from year to year. and this is thanks to, not in spite of !!!
                  in the Russian Federation it is becoming comfortable to live, damn it!
                  1. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 24 September 2020 21: 45 New
                    20
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    I already wrote that the standard of living in the Russian Federation is comparable to the Polish one.

                    Present the evidence to the public!
    7. Alf
      Alf 24 September 2020 18: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: pereselenec
      Our grandfathers in the besieged Leningrad and did not endure that.

      And with which state is Russia now waging a war?
      Quote: pereselenec
      And only liberals, bulkheads and hipsters will whine from a decrease in life comfort.

      Poorly, you know the training manual, there are also agents of the State Department and the SBU indicated. Not good for you, urgently for a retake.
    8. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 25 September 2020 07: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: pereselenec
      Our grandfathers in the besieged Leningrad and did not endure that. And only liberals, bulkheads and hipsters will whine from a decrease in life comfort.

      And why did the grandfathers endure? For communism or for capitalism? Why did they organize the revolution? Our people endured for 70 years, just so that there was no war? And we must endure so that the leadership and the oligarchs live well?
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 24 September 2020 10: 35 New
    -26 qualifying.
    Our grandfathers in the besieged Leningrad and did not endure that. And only liberals, bulkheads and hipsters will whine from a decrease in life comfort.
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine 24 September 2020 10: 47 New
      +1
      Too thick)))
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 53 New
      11
      Is it jammed or something? ... is the tape recorder broken? smile
      1. pereselenec
        pereselenec 24 September 2020 10: 56 New
        0
        Quote: The same Lech
        Is it jammed or something? ... is the tape recorder broken? smile


        Sorry, just now I saw that the message was sent twice. Let the moderators remove any one of them, I expressed my point of view.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 01 New
          -6
          You did not say to your point of view that the bulk and the liberals would just not whine, but call for the overthrow of Putin using the contradictions in our economy ... they have their own interest in gaining power and siphoning even more resources from the people and the country ... young wolves have grown up and want to eat a lot and sweet. hi
          1. Roman13579
            Roman13579 24 September 2020 11: 12 New
            14
            No-no .. everything is correct he wrote just ..))
            We have long been so accepted .. if you are not happy with something, you don’t like some situation in the country .. then you are a liberal .. I know it myself ..))
            High prices?? Low salaries ?? -Find yourself a job, and do not whine that Putin is to blame .. liberal ..

            This is the standard answer to most of my comments ..))
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 21 New
              -1
              It has long been accepted in our country .. if you are not happy with something, you don’t like some situation in the country .. then you are a liberal ..

              Well, if you consider yourself a liberal ... so be it ... smile This is your choice.
              I'm dissatisfied with many things in our beautiful state, but I try to express my legitimate dissatisfaction within the framework of the law, of course, regardless of titles, positions and party affiliation.
              1. Roman13579
                Roman13579 24 September 2020 11: 54 New
                +8
                Well if you consider yourself a liberal
                I made it clear enough who thinks what ..))

                but I try to express my legitimate dissatisfaction within the law
                This is beside the point ..
                Write that the government raises prices, introduces new taxes, but buys new yachts for itself .. and that inflation in Russia is the highest .. and that in terms of living standards we are deep in the anus - this is also within the law ..
                But anyone who writes like that is a liberal and a bully ..))
                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 24 September 2020 12: 04 New
                  +2
                  But anyone who writes like that is a liberal and ..))

                  Wow ... so liberal and bully?
                  Like, who does not share my views, that liberal and bulk ... it's funny ... earlier the Nazis in Germany divided people on the same principle ... who is not with them if you please go to the Dachau concentration camp.
                  1. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 13 New
                    18
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    Wow ... so liberal and bully?

                    That's sarcasm, colleague. yes
                  2. Roman13579
                    Roman13579 24 September 2020 12: 38 New
                    +4
                    Wow ... so liberal and bully?
                    Like those who do not share my views, that liberal and bulk ... funny ..

                    Right .. funny ..
                    But they have heartburn from this ..

                    . earlier the Nazis of Germany divided people according to the same principle.
                    Previously, the Nazis .. now the Dazraputs ..))
            2. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 52 New
              -8
              Quote: Roman13579
              This is the standard answer to most of my comments ..))

              valuable advice, by the way!
              use it !!!!!!!
            3. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 54 New
              -8
              Quote: Roman13579
              We have long been so accepted .. if you are not happy with something, you don’t like some situation in the country .. then you are a liberal .. I know it myself ..))

              you probably know that sooner or later you will die .... why don't you blame Putin for this?
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 19 New
            18
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            You did not say to your point of view that the bulk and the liberals would just not whine, but call for the overthrow of Putin using the contradictions in our economy ... they have their own interest in gaining power and siphoning even more resources from the people and the country ... young wolves have grown up and want to eat a lot and sweet.

            I am very sorry, colleague, but before this comment you seemed to have written everything adequately, but then something went wrong with you))))
            From your words, it follows that SCAR is the guarantor of the stability of the current theft, and not to change it for the reason that the future will steal more. Did I understand correctly?
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 19: 05 New
              -5
              Quote: Malyuta
              but before this comment, you seem to have written everything adequately

              when they blew on power
              Quote: Malyuta
              but here you have something went wrong))))

              began to blow on bulk
              conclusion: blow on the bulk of the bottom ...
        2. Varyag71
          Varyag71 24 September 2020 11: 47 New
          +2
          Psychiatrists have their own point of view too
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 52 New
            0
            Psychiatrists have their own point of view too

            Consider me a psychiatrist smile .
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 24 September 2020 11: 59 New
              +4
              I still hope that he showed his sarcasm. Otherwise it's scary from such ... patriots.
  • Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 24 September 2020 10: 36 New
    16
    I am a regional state employee, the salary was last raised three years ago, food products, goods and services of housing and communal services are becoming more expensive every year, life becomes more difficult every year. Oh, the eternal Russian question "Who is to blame and what to do?"
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 24 September 2020 10: 45 New
      10
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      harder every year.

      "Go into business" D.А. Medvedev .....
      "No money, but you hold on!" YES. Medvedev
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 24 September 2020 10: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "Go into business" D.А. Medvedev .....
        "No money, but you hold on!" YES. Medvedev

        What to do is clear and who is to blame?
        1. mark1
          mark1 24 September 2020 11: 01 New
          -16 qualifying.
          Who else but yourself can be to blame. You just have to have the courage and admit it to yourself. To paraphrase
          -no who will not give well-being
          - not a god, not a king and not a hero
          - you will achieve everything, comrade
          with my own hand (and head)
          1. Anatole Klim
            Anatole Klim 24 September 2020 11: 18 New
            +7
            Quote: mark1
            -no who will not give well-being
            - not a god, not a king and not a hero
            - you will achieve everything, comrade
            my own hand (and my head

            I go to all elections and do not vote for crooks and thieves, I went to all rallies against raising the retirement age, I constantly talk with friends and colleagues about the situation in the country.
            What do you suggest? Taking the Winter Palace?
            1. mark1
              mark1 24 September 2020 11: 25 New
              -7
              Don't pass off your speculations as my proposals.
            2. pereselenec
              pereselenec 24 September 2020 11: 54 New
              -9
              Quote: Anatol Klim
              went to all rallies

              white ribbon, chtoli?
              1. Anatole Klim
                Anatole Klim 24 September 2020 12: 07 New
                13
                Quote: pereselenec
                Quote: Anatol Klim
                went to all rallies

                white ribbon, chtoli?

                Do not pull words out of the commentary, do not falsify, I wrote "went to all the rallies against raising the retirement age." You don't have to judge everyone by yourself.
              2. Malyuta
                Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 10 New
                24
                Quote: pereselenec
                white ribbon, chtoli?

                and you who? troll?
        2. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 24 September 2020 11: 46 New
          10
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          who is guilty?

          He is also to blame, (D.A.M.), including! Not everyone will be able to become Rotenbergs due to their nature and other objective reasons. And if a working person is in need, then the state leadership is to blame.
          1. aglet
            aglet 24 September 2020 12: 03 New
            +6
            "Not everyone will be able to become Rothenbergs due to their nature and other objective reasons."
            yes, it's just that Putin isn't enough for everyone
        3. Malyuta
          Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 11 New
          23
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          What to do is clear and who is to blame?

          Putinism!
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 24 September 2020 12: 14 New
            -5
            Putinism!

            Justify? belay
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 24 September 2020 13: 03 New
              22
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              Justify?

              And you have already substantiated everything in your comments, why else would you? laughing
              it's just that you are trying not to connect what is happening with the scare and this is the main delusion, and for many it has already grown into a disease. yes
          2. Mishka78
            Mishka78 24 September 2020 12: 54 New
            -1
            Let's be honest. He did not come up with this regime of wild capitalism and the plundering of everything that you can reach. He simply supports him in the country he controls.
            There were many such countries before Putin, and there will be many after him.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 24 September 2020 13: 12 New
              25
              Quote: Mishka78
              Let's be honest.

              Let's!
              Quote: Mishka78
              He did not come up with this regime of wild capitalism and the plundering of everything that you can reach. He just supports him in the country he controls

              Well, yes, you forget that he stood at the origins and turned out to be a werewolf, in terms of oath, party affiliation, etc.
              Quote: Mishka78
              There were many such countries before Putin, and there will be many after him.

              Of course there were many, mostly in Africa. Only a colleague, now is the 21st century and the richest country in the world cannot be a semblance of native regimes.
              In short, this otmaz "we are not the first, we are not the last" tell your children at night.
              1. Mishka78
                Mishka78 24 September 2020 13: 59 New
                +4
                Well, yes, you forget that he stood at the origins and turned out to be a werewolf, in terms of oath, party affiliation, etc.

                Why do I forget? I remember. And I have been voting for the communists since 1996.
                Of course there were many, mainly in Africa.

                Yes you are right. Africa and Latin America. There were many, there are many and there will be many.
                Only a colleague, now is the 21st century and the richest country in the world cannot be a semblance of native regimes.

                How can it not, if we live in it? :) And we will live for at least 16 more years, but rather longer, tk. this Leningrad organized criminal group did not steal, then to return everything, or even go to jail.
                In short, this otmaz "we are not the first, we are not the last" tell your children at night.

                This is not an excuse, this is a fact of our life. We live much better than in Africa, but much worse than in Europe. And again, the fact that he came up with theft, squandering of funds, lack of control, everything to friends - the rest of the law, etc. not Putin. He just implemented what had been invented for a long time :)

                Colleague, we are not opponents, but rather like-minded people, I do not know what you attacked me.
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 24 September 2020 14: 34 New
                  22
                  Quote: Mishka78
                  Colleague, we are not opponents, but rather like-minded people, I do not know what you attacked me.

                  Comrade, a friendly discussion gives birth to truth! But now your position is clear good drinks
                  PySy.
                  Quote: Mishka78

                  And again, the fact that he came up with theft, squandering of funds, lack of control, everything to friends - the rest of the law, etc. not Putin. He just implemented what had been invented for a long time :)

                  Everything is said by the word "successor", only many of our compatriots have no critical thinking and no cause-effect relationships, and for them ebn is bad, and the successor is "good."
                  that's where the trouble is.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 12: 59 New
      -8
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      "Who is to blame and what to do?"

      we are all to blame ...
      do not drink, do not smoke, play sports, raise children, love your wife, do not give up and endure ... then, perhaps, your children will live better than you ...
      ps
      our parents destroyed a common house, now we (their children) suffer from a leaky roof and cold batteries ...
      1. Mishka78
        Mishka78 24 September 2020 14: 03 New
        +5
        So you probably need to do something?
        And not just not to drink, not to smoke, but to endure and sit on these Internet networks of yours?
        For example, to vote not for a party of crooks, but for forces alternative to them, go to a rally, declare their rights, the duties of the state, etc. etc.
        You are offering to be patient. This is very Christian, but somehow not according to conscience ...
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 45 New
          -5
          Quote: Mishka78
          For example, vote not for a party of crooks

          and for what?
          Quote: Mishka78
          go to the rally,

          who did you help to go to the rally?
          Quote: Mishka78
          to declare their rights, the obligations of the state

          somehow you forgot about your duties as a citizen ...
          Quote: Mishka78
          You are offering to be patient.

          I propose to endure all the hardships and hardships and work to improve the position.
          because I understand that nothing comes out of nowhere !!!! jelly rivers and milk banks are fairy tales !!!
          not a single coup has improved the life of the common people! NO ONE !!!!!!
          1. Mishka78
            Mishka78 24 September 2020 16: 24 New
            +5
            and for what?

            For the one that seems right to you.
            who did you help to go to the rally?

            When one and a half cripples come out to the rally, and the rest sit on the couch and endure, as you suggest, they are ignored. As soon as the phenomenon becomes widespread, they begin to negotiate with the protesters and listen to them.
            Even 10 thousand did not come to the Moscow rallies against the retirement robbery. They sat and endured. So they got it.
            somehow you forgot about your duties as a citizen ...

            Why do you think so? I remember them very well and strictly observed them, I observe them and plan to observe them further.
            I propose to endure all hardships and hardships and work to improve the position

            By sitting and enduring you will not improve ANYTHING. If you want a salary or position increase, you must go to the employer and report it. And not sit and wait for him to appreciate you, such a cool one. For nothing flows under the lying stone.
            because I understand that nothing comes out of nowhere

            Nothing out of nowhere ... Song. I don't even know how to comment on this. That is where the colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs got 9 billion rubles in cash at home? Or does the FSB colonel have 12 billion? Or where did all these Sechins, Shuvalovs, Medvedevs and other Kostins get their steamers, airplanes, yachts, dachas, vineyards and so on? From nowhere? Or out of your pocket and mine?
            not a single coup improved the life of the common people

            I agree. It is necessary to change the government in a constitutional way through elections.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 19: 17 New
              -7
              Quote: Mishka78
              When one and a half cripples come to the rally, and the rest sit on the couch and endure, as you suggest,

              the State Department really wants to have more at the rallies .... just like you!
              Quote: Mishka78
              As soon as the phenomenon becomes widespread, they begin to negotiate with the protesters and listen to them.

              like on the Maidan in Kiev ... the State Department really wanted the authorities to talk to the crowd .... just like you!
              Quote: Mishka78
              By sitting and enduring you will not improve ANYTHING.

              the State Department really wants to see me at the rally .... just like you!
              Quote: Mishka78
              Nothing out of nowhere ... Song. I don't even know how to comment on this.

              typo ... could not have accentuated ...
              Quote: Mishka78
              Or where did all these

              from where and from everyone ... all over the world ...
  • Million
    Million 24 September 2020 10: 37 New
    11
    It would also be necessary to introduce a tax for Russian citizens.
    For living in a great power.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 48 New
      +4

      It would also be necessary to introduce a tax for Russian citizens.

      You are now not talking to our heads ... the number of hidden taxes is already over the top ... someone's account to close gaps in the budget.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 57 New
        18
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        So I won't be surprised at the new portion of levies and taxes after the pandemic ... it is necessary at someone's expense to close the gaps in the budget.

        For entrepreneurs, the imputation is already canceled, then the income will be increased from 13 to 15%, etc.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 01 New
      -4
      Quote: Million
      For living in a great power.

      and who will not pay - send to Ukraine !!!!! taste all the delights of living in a small power !!!!!
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 24 September 2020 13: 14 New
      20
      Quote: Million
      It would also be necessary to introduce a tax for Russian citizens.
      For living in a great power.

      More for the braces.
  • Million
    Million 24 September 2020 10: 37 New
    +8
    There are almost no grocery stores left in our city.
    1. Alf
      Alf 24 September 2020 21: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Million
      There are almost no grocery stores left in our city.

      In Samara, the same thing, and over the past year, the mayor, guess from which party, closed almost all food markets.
  • KCA
    KCA 24 September 2020 10: 38 New
    -18 qualifying.
    Rosstat measures prices in which stores? In the Azbuka Vkusa in Moscow? I'm shopping at 5k, it's under my window, I also buy fish in a fish store, also next to my house, I've never noticed a rise in prices, pollock, for example, has definitely cost 155 rubles for a year, cod was like 300-320 rubles , it depends on the delivery, apparently, it has remained so, you can see the prices in 5-ke on their website
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 57 New
      +2
      In our stores, good meat 300-500 kg ... rotten meat is already sold at a discount ... the same for sausages, dairy products ... for fruits and vegetables Thank God so far the summer season is helping.
      In general, a trip to the grocery store costs about a thousand rubles.
    2. begemot20091
      begemot20091 24 September 2020 11: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: KCA
      I did not notice a rise in prices, pollock, for example, has definitely cost 155 rubles for a year, cod was 300-320 rubles

      The growing demand for Russian pollock fillets in China and Europe led to a rise in export prices, followed by a rise in prices for pollock on the domestic market. During the year, wholesale prices for one of the most affordable types of fish increased by almost a quarter. The wholesale price for pollock in the Far East on August 6 averaged 78 rubles. per 1 kg, indicated in the materials of the Ministry of Agriculture. A year earlier, this pollock cost only 63 rubles. per 1 kg - thus, for the year in the main region of its production, it has risen in price by almost 24%. Due to the increase in selling prices in the fishing regions, prices have also increased in Central Russia, the Ministry of Agriculture states. There, the wholesale price for 12 months, by August 6, increased by 25%, from 75 to 94 rubles. for 1 kg.

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/business/13/08/2018/5b6d8dbe9a79472a7ae49ac0
      1. KCA
        KCA 24 September 2020 12: 15 New
        -4
        I am not worried about wholesale prices for cod fish, I say that in the store pollock, carcass, not fillet with 30% ice costs 155 rubles, navaga 159 rubles, haddock 280 rubles, cod, although I like haddock more, 319 rubles, just strain and Should you remove and send the price tags? And the same pollock cost 155 rubles a year ago, from me to the Arctic seas, well, 3 times less than to China or the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, although pink salmon has slightly risen in price, I don't like it, I don't track the exact prices
        1. begemot20091
          begemot20091 24 September 2020 12: 21 New
          +7
          I'm not trying to prove it. I just wrote that the once "weedy" fish, which we were treated to on a "fishy" day, and the soldiers "measured" pollock and hake in kilometers during the period of service, today turned into "golden ice".
          1. KCA
            KCA 24 September 2020 13: 09 New
            -5
            I do not consider cod fish weedy fish, Norwegian salmon steak grown in guana, I prefer cod steak, 5 times cheaper, or even 10 times, not from economy, but from taste, I love cod fish, from pollock to burbot, I tasted cod cooked by a pomorie, the same cod, just from the market, ice cream, but somehow she cooked it especially, I know the process, I just threw frozen cod into very salty water, but I can't cook like that, I'm not a cook , but I've been cooking since 7 years old, maybe not very beautiful, but no one ever complained about the taste
          2. KCA
            KCA 24 September 2020 13: 45 New
            -1
            Cod is so weedy fish that by a miracle there was no military conflict between Great Britain and Iceland, then NATO countries, called it "herring", but the conflict arose precisely because of the cod catch areas
    3. NEOZ
      NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: KCA
      I have never noticed a rise in prices,

      there is a rise in prices - it's stupid to deny it ...
      the fact is that there is a rise in prices all over the world !!! this is an objective fact .... no one is surprised by gravity !!!!!!
      why the rise in prices surprises .... I do not understand.
      .
      1. begemot20091
        begemot20091 24 September 2020 13: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: NEOZ
        the fact is that there is a rise in prices all over the world !!! this is an objective fact .... no one is surprised by gravity !!!!!!

        what are you? I captured the time when prices were going down. and regularly
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 September 2020 13: 24 New
          -4
          Quote: begemot20091
          I captured the time when prices were going down. and regularly

          Well, why did you destroy this country then?
          you wanted to rot as much as the rotting west rotting !!!! - enjoy !!!!
          1. begemot20091
            begemot20091 24 September 2020 14: 09 New
            +3
            when the country was being destroyed by liberals, I ran with a gun in Turkestan. the oath has not yet been canceled. it's a pity then they didn't give us another order. Yes, I live now, I think, no worse than you. or maybe better. but ... he lived better and did not betray the country.
            Quote: NEOZ
            Well, why did you destroy this country then?
            you wanted to rot as much as the rotting west rotting !!!! - enjoy !!!!
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 September 2020 15: 48 New
              -4
              Quote: begemot20091
              I ran with a gun in Turkestan.

              "you" is a collective image .... you are all adult citizens of the Soviet Union .... really wanted to rot, like the West is rotting .....
        2. Alf
          Alf 24 September 2020 21: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: begemot20091
          I captured the time when prices were going down. and regularly

          So this is with a bloody tyrant, and now freedom. And the market. More precisely, a bazaar.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 September 2020 10: 40 New
    +7
    Someday, they will write about the decline in the prices of goods, while only about the growth and read.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 24 September 2020 12: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      Someday, they will write about the decline in the prices of goods, while only about the growth and read.


      Quote: my authorship :)

      Someday (maybe soon)
      Divide everything by three zeros
      We change the Zhiguli to the Mercedes
      Salary and money stacks
      Leave the immense run uphill
      Gasoline against laws
      Will not drive into cognitive
      Everything will be on par and in abundance
      On Mars there will be summer cottages, beds
      And if, nevertheless, someone
      Will exceed greed by at least a little
      Tom is all together - on the snatch!
      And the smooth surface will rise, and there will be silence ...

      The only thing left to recover is
      Returning first side
      Home with pills madhouse


      lol
  • ALARI
    ALARI 24 September 2020 10: 40 New
    +1
    Do you want like in Europe?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 September 2020 10: 43 New
    -1
    Rice noticed a rise in price, the rest did not notice. I seem to go to stores. Yes, of course, tobacco has taken off, I need to quit smoking. And it's so hard to live from brandy to whiskey. I'm waiting for the harvest, everything will not be very dry. hi drinks
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 24 September 2020 10: 59 New
      -16 qualifying.
      As they say in Russia: Water does not flow under a lying stone. Finding a second job is not an option. repeat
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 24 September 2020 11: 20 New
        10
        Don't whine, work, others will live for you.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 24 September 2020 11: 38 New
          -4
          This is the wrong address, now I am performing a labor feat on Formula 1 in Sochi.
          1. ALARI
            ALARI 24 September 2020 11: 52 New
            +4
            How long have I been haunted by the question - work to live or live to work? Maybe take a third job? What do you think?
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 24 September 2020 12: 04 New
              0
              The most important thing was not being involved. My principle is: Where would I work, it would be better not to work. Money should not be earned, but received. They offer remote workers not to be punished for drunkenness in the workplace. I thought, could I try? hi
              1. ALARI
                ALARI 24 September 2020 12: 11 New
                +4
                So I'm all for it. Only here there is a conflict of interest with my employer and me, he wants me to live at work, and I just want to live and work. The proverb about stone and water does not apply to work, but to the desires of a person.
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 24 September 2020 12: 24 New
                  -4
                  you have to work to live
                  1. ALARI
                    ALARI 24 September 2020 12: 44 New
                    +1
                    The answer is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. It is necessary. But the topic is not fully disclosed.
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 24 September 2020 12: 48 New
                      -4
                      I want to enjoy my work and live well, but in reality, to plow at the hated job and try to survive
      2. aglet
        aglet 24 September 2020 12: 35 New
        +7
        "Finding a second job is not an option."
        is it a question, or a statement? Explain to me how, even "working" in the office for 10 hours * (with the road), you can work in another office, the same 10 hours, but already at night? or do you work 4 hours a day? or do you have time at one job to work at the same time at another? in this case, you simply imitate work both there and there, just to get money. work, which implies personal responsibility for the result, you will not be able to combine with other similar work. and, judging by life in our country, you and people like you work in two jobs at the same time. the goal is one - to cut the dough, which way, it doesn't matter, money does not smell
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 24 September 2020 12: 58 New
          -1
          I always worked with my head and a little with my hands. I have one office all my life, "Control room for refrigeration machines", both in the sea and on the shore.
      3. begemot20091
        begemot20091 24 September 2020 14: 22 New
        +4
        and if the third? from the operating table and ... to the wipers. and something in nature and ... the head of the broom.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 24 September 2020 14: 28 New
          -1
          By the way, you voiced my dream involuntarily. I want an entry in the work book. LLC Russian Races. Position Marshal. Not many people know that Marshal is the same janitor, only on Fomula 1.
    2. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 24 September 2020 11: 25 New
      +4
      Our buckwheat has risen in price at Magnit by 20%. And the weight of the pack is constantly decreasing.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 September 2020 11: 41 New
        -4
        I use all sorts of discount cards, bonuses and penny certificates. hi
      2. ALARI
        ALARI 24 September 2020 11: 42 New
        +1
        I believe I live in this country myself.
  • iouris
    iouris 24 September 2020 10: 47 New
    +3
    Tell Ilyich: we can do it too.
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 24 September 2020 10: 54 New
    +3
    We are waiting for a cell of eight eggs.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 24 September 2020 10: 56 New
    +6
    Well, we grow them on dollars! In general, this is a sign of the complete failure of the state's social policy. As well as the development path of "capitalism with a human face". Something needs to be changed at the conservatory ...
    1. Aag
      Aag 24 September 2020 15: 17 New
      0
      Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      Well, we grow them on dollars! In general, this is a sign of the complete failure of the state's social policy. As well as the development path of "capitalism with a human face". Something needs to be changed at the conservatory ...

      You were heard at the very top!
      They ordered to complete the renovation at the conservatory ... laughing
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 24 September 2020 10: 59 New
    +5
    On the other hand, in Europe, they "shamefully" missed out on American sanctions.
    But we rubbed ourselves with our heads held high .. and said to ourselves - that it is useful for us ..
    1. ALARI
      ALARI 24 September 2020 11: 23 New
      +6
      In Europe, people think about the people, and we think about greatness.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 September 2020 12: 16 New
        0
        In Europe, people think about the people, and we think about greatness.

        Oh, no need for beautiful fairy tales ...
  • Woodman
    Woodman 24 September 2020 11: 02 New
    -10 qualifying.
    The EU includes 28 countries. And Russia is one. So the comparison
    Food prices in Russia have risen three times higher than in the European Union
    it's like comparing the average temperature in a hospital with the temperature of one particular person.
    PS We have already noted above about low-quality copy-paste.
    Somehow I did not notice the rise in food prices. Maybe I'm buying the wrong products?
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 September 2020 11: 04 New
    +3
    I don’t care how much food costs, if only the salary keeps up with the rise in prices. In Norway, food costs a lot of money for our money and that they don’t groan when they are paid.
    And here everything is as always, oil is falling, and prices are rising at the "request of the workers" !!!
  • 1536
    1536 24 September 2020 11: 04 New
    -8
    The number of domestic food products in stores has increased significantly. Both high quality and tasty. But the EU and US sanctions affect the purchase of feed (the feed base is still weak, especially for cattle, in the common parlance of "beef" and is developing poorly), seeds (they have to be purchased, since their own breeding science and related production have been destroyed or also does not develop), spare parts for equipment (the industry does not produce in full the entire range of agricultural equipment and machines, how, if anyone remembers, our "Ryabushinsky" still wanted to buy in the West, why should we invent bicycles with winnowing machines and seeders?) ... It is necessary to pay attention to education, who and how agricultural universities are trained today, and whether they have survived in general in the form that is needed today for business, and not for a "diploma".
    What to say? The shops have almost everything, no one is starving. The merit of retail chains, which dictate prices for everything. Expensive? Expensive. But if we take into account that in Russia more than 20% of the population is employed in agriculture, and 5-10% in the EU or the USA, it turns out that prices justify this state of affairs.
    Therefore, the future belongs to large united agricultural producers, who do not hand over their goods to speculators, but sell these products through their own trading networks. They organize the market, and do not use the existing one for the purpose of enrichment by simply raising prices. (Of course, the reverse process is also possible, when an already open and operating trade network organizes its production. Only in this case, the products it produces will be more expensive due to the trade factors, margins and taxes already included in its cost.) The future belongs to such a regional consumer cooperation, elevated to the rank of public policy. Unlike purely state or private property, cooperative property presupposes a flexible system of production and sales, as well as management and includes many enterprises and organizations of various forms of ownership with an optimal number of employees and managers.
    An ordinary textbook on economics of the Soviet period, starting from page 20 (not to be confused with modern textbooks built on the basis of replacing the word "economics" with the word "economics"). The difference is that the economy is based on the production of goods, while economics teaches how to make money itself as a commodity, which ultimately becomes essentially the primary occupation for everyone. But I have never seen anyone eating banknotes or biting on plastic cards along with electronic money. But everyone loves fresh cabbage salad. I also haven't seen free cowboys in the United States or swineherds from Britain in a long time, living according to the laws of economics textbooks.
    1. ALARI
      ALARI 24 September 2020 11: 27 New
      +8
      We began to dress better. (Svetlana Igorevna Kuritsyna, also known as "Sveta from Ivanov")
      1. Asad
        Asad 24 September 2020 12: 11 New
        +5
        Please name delicious domestic products, and in which network?
    2. Alf
      Alf 24 September 2020 22: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: 1536
      and through their own trading networks they sell these products.

      And where are these networks?
      Quote: 1536
      Unlike purely state or private property, cooperative property presupposes a flexible system of production and sales, as well as management and includes many enterprises and organizations of various forms of ownership with an optimal number of employees and managers.

      You know, this already happened in the USSR and worked perfectly, until 1953, and then it disappeared somewhere. Well, nowadays they are trying to forget about such a way of managing.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 September 2020 11: 05 New
    +5
    Rosstat data still need to be multiplied by 4 more.
    Feels like prices in the store have increased by 10-15 percent. (except seasonal, eu-but)
    Just the ones in the photo.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 September 2020 11: 05 New
    +5
    Product manufacturers are private companies ... VAT
    increased from 18 to 20%. And prices went up and incomes fell and someone lost their income altogether. Fuel prices went up, power engineers indexed their tariffs. This all affects prices.
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 24 September 2020 11: 14 New
    0
    Russia forward!
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 24 September 2020 11: 15 New
    13
    I don't want to upset those present, but today Russia ranks 1st in terms of inflation in the world. (EU 10th, US 11th)

    In the long term, the situation looks even worse:
    Russia
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 3,57%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 22,91%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 86,77%

    EC
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 1,57%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 6,31%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 16,14%

    USA
    12-month inflation rate (annualized): 2,28%
    60-month inflation (5 years): 9,44%
    120-month inflation (10 years): 19,00%

    Source: https://www.statbureau.org
  • HAM
    HAM 24 September 2020 11: 17 New
    +5
    This year in the Kuban there was a very good harvest of fruits. And the prices on the market and in stores for them are sky-high. The most interesting thing is that you offer people to collect fruit for free, they don’t want to, if only they would be collected and given ... Previously, the state bought cherries, plums, cherry plums, apples, etc., made natural juices for children, but now it is easier to chew ... but natural and cheap ones disappear ...
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 24 September 2020 11: 19 New
    +2
    We don't care what matters is that there is no war as in the song of the gas sector
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 24 September 2020 11: 22 New
    13
    The fight against the welfare of the population is going well.
  • tatra
    tatra 24 September 2020 11: 23 New
    +2
    The main "work" of the enemies of the Communists who seized Russia and who categorically refused to take responsibility for the seizure, that is, for Russia and its people, for everything they did with Russia and its people, is embezzlement and speculation, starting with selling at high prices to the Russian people of Russian natural resources. With such a System, Russia will always degrade and become impoverished, and the Russian people will become impoverished and die out, and the enemies of the communists will continue to chant in chorus "but we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists to blame," was, we are still disentangling. "
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 28 New
      0
      Irina all enemies to the wall ... shoot immediately ... who are dissatisfied with the ship and Brussels for permanent residence ... the rest immediately start work ... saboteurs will be considered enemies of the people ... everyone who sits on the forums and whines to take pencil and send it to Magadan to build a railway to the North Pole ... if you have completely lost your fear.
      1. tatra
        tatra 24 September 2020 11: 45 New
        -1
        And if without banter, then yes, it is those who have been squealing since Perestroika that they, and people like them, were imprisoned by the Communists in the Gulag, shot exclusively "for nothing", and created from the republics of the USSR they captured, States in which it is good not honest and decent live, but criminals, speculators, enemies of their country and people.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 24 September 2020 11: 47 New
          0
          It remains only for our state to be headed by a person capable of repeating the achievements of Comrade Stalin ... but how to do this? ... and where to find such a person in the current government?
          1. BAI
            BAI 24 September 2020 13: 35 New
            +3
            There was such a person, he could if he wanted. But he has lost an unprecedented credit of trust and is now a "lame duck".
  • Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 24 September 2020 11: 36 New
    +6
    there is no production in the country, products are from imported raw materials or are made on imported equipment ... prices will rise constantly as long as we are a raw material colony ... everything is simple
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  • 1536
    1536 24 September 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Quote: ALARI
    We began to dress better. (Svetlana Igorevna Kuritsyna, also known as "Sveta from Ivanov")

    I would not say that they began to dress better. Taste in clothes, requirements for its quality are completely lost. It is still difficult to find good jeans and sturdy good jackets, trousers, suits and coats made from natural materials in stores in which you feel comfortable, not to mention comfortable and durable shoes. Women seem to have the same problems. Sometimes it hurts to look at a girl with calluses on the heels, sealed with a plaster, as if she wore tarpaulin boots on the march without footcloths or sweaty armpits. Sometimes, even the price does not guarantee that you get something worthwhile, good, and you will wear it for a long time. That is, they rather began not to notice what they were wearing. It is difficult to ruin a T-shirt even with the inscription in English on the chest, and no one will understand that the lines in your jeans are stitched unevenly. This, unlike chicken with antibiotics or genetically modified meat, is not so noticeable, but you will walk naked down the street. Coldly.
  • Mishka78
    Mishka78 24 September 2020 11: 58 New
    +6
    Like a 4% rise in price ?? Tell your grandmother, who does not know what to eat, because everything is expensive.

    Family of 3 people. I, wife, daughter. Moscow. We buy 90% at the Crossroads.
    My wife records all expenses. In January (taking into account 10 days of holidays, when I ate at home and the New Year's table), we spent 52 thousand on food.
    In June, we spent 84 thousand there. Considering that I don't have lunch at work at all. Now the season is true, somewhere down to 75 dropped.
    The total increase in expenses for food alone is 35-40%.
    HOW with such figures it turns out 4%, I do not know.
    What that monthly minimum grocery basket is calculated - it costs 4000. How can a person eat 4 thousand? Living in a city without a subsidiary farm? A sliced ​​loaf costs 30 rubles. If you eat only 1 loaf a day, that's already 900 rubles a month. Our statistics is some kind of enchanting PPC.
    They think about inflation in about the same way. And by the way, the numbers are similar. Perhaps by this they want to say that the rise in prices corresponds to the level of inflation :)
  • askort154
    askort154 24 September 2020 12: 10 New
    -1
    Guru... This is not a comparison of the standard of living, but the level of prices.

    Changes in the price level towards their increase - inflation.
    The higher the inflation, the lower the purchasing power - the lower the standard of living.
    The standard of living depends - on the wallet in your pocket, and the prices in the store.
    Let us remember how we lived in 1992 with inflation of 2506,8%, and how we live now with inflation of 4%. (never an economist, conclusions from his personal life). hi
    1. Mishka78
      Mishka78 24 September 2020 13: 51 New
      0
      https://www.cbr.ru/collection/collection/file/29173/infl_exp_20-08.pdf
      The observed inflation rate is 10%. Official - less than 4%.
      That's how we live.
      In the late USSR, there was also something similar. On TV and in newspapers, milk yields increased and wheat colossica, and sausage trains went to Moscow to eat to buy ...
      1. tatra
        tatra 24 September 2020 14: 43 New
        -1
        There is a joke on the Web - why was there not enough sausage in the USSR? But because it was made from meat.
        Likewise, the USSR bought grain to feed the people with normal bread, and not as "businessmen" - from fodder grain.
  • Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 24 September 2020 12: 17 New
    0
    God grant that our products would not be a European sludge "for the poor", i.e. what they sell to Ukraine, for example (pelengas, eggs and meat exceeding the norm of herbicides and other rubbish, genetically modified gifts from the USA)
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 24 September 2020 12: 26 New
    +1
    One of the steps that can really reduce prices is the introduction of flat rental rates and litigation with landlords. Half of all revenue is consumed by the rent of retail and warehouse premises. The state rents out space for a penny, usually to officials and structures affiliated with them, and those, having clocked 200% of the business. Those raise prices and that's it. The people are outraged - why the wholesale price of tomatoes is 50 rubles, and they sell for 120. So you beat off the rent!
  • bubasa
    bubasa 24 September 2020 12: 45 New
    -2
    As a percentage, liberals / non-systemic hopposition in Russia have more anal contacts than gay men in the EU. But in quantitative terms, everything is inferior ... In percentage terms, the United States has the most advanced medicine / science / education, but in reality it is equal to 0. You cannot divide by zero. Therefore, medicine / science / education in the United States is infinite! Or 0. In percentage terms, the US Army is the strongest, the strongest in terms of funding, but in reality it is 0. Not for horse feed. In percentage terms, statistics and ratings in the EU / US are the most truthful, but in reality and in truth - spring showed who was where - covid, wars in the Middle East, inability to get a vaccine, external debt - multiplied by 0 all EU / US and by output 0. You can multiply by zero, so life has multiplied. At the same time, she drove the liberals / non-systemic hopposition under the bunker.
    1. Alf
      Alf 24 September 2020 22: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: bubasa
      As a percentage, liberals / non-systemic hopposition in Russia have more anal contacts than gay men in the EU. But in quantitative terms, everything is inferior ... In percentage terms, the United States has the most advanced medicine / science / education, but in reality it is equal to 0. You cannot divide by zero. Therefore, medicine / science / education in the United States is infinite! Or 0. In percentage terms, the US Army is the strongest, the strongest in terms of funding, but in reality it is 0. Not for horse feed. In percentage terms, statistics and ratings in the EU / US are the most truthful, but in reality and in truth - spring showed who was where - covid, wars in the Middle East, inability to get a vaccine, external debt - multiplied by 0 all EU / US and by output 0. You can multiply by zero, so life has multiplied. At the same time, she drove the liberals / non-systemic hopposition under the bunker.

      I am wildly sorry, but what are you talking about?
      1. bubasa
        bubasa 26 September 2020 15: 10 New
        0
        Yes, do not apologize for the lack of logic in the mentally disabled liberda wink
    2. indy424
      indy424 24 September 2020 22: 18 New
      +1
      Is it some kind of special anti-liberal random word generator?
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 September 2020 12: 56 New
    0
    Either the government will actively moderate the appetites of the various sellers, or the various sellers will begin to actively push the population to the Maidan. Even metal gets tired, and only a person.
  • georggy
    georggy 24 September 2020 12: 59 New
    0
    Thank you bastard.
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 September 2020 13: 12 New
    0
    Well, how much can you confuse inflation with rising prices, what an idiocy.

    The ruble is getting cheaper, and a kilo of pasta as the dollar was worth it.
  • BAI
    BAI 24 September 2020 13: 28 New
    +3
    If in Russia the rise in prices during this period amounted to 3,9 percent, then in Europe the rise in prices for food products reached an average of 1,3 percent.

    For that, in Russia, despite the fall in oil prices, it was possible to avoid a fall in gasoline prices.
    Therefore, agricultural products have risen in price.
  • yfast
    yfast 24 September 2020 13: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: pereselenec
    Along the borders, there are only traitors and NATO bases. Don't you watch TV?

    Does anyone else watch it, besides propagandists and old women? If you constantly lie, then people stop believing.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 24 September 2020 13: 46 New
    +6
    I don't understand why people are so worried about food prices and their growth in Russia?
    But Russia has "Zircon", "Dagger", "Vanguard", "Poseidon", "Armata", "Bulava", "Yars" and other "conciliatory" things, thanks to which Russians will go straight to heaven, and all the rest will die !
    Isn't the prospect of going to heaven worth tightening your belts and reducing your consumption?
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 24 September 2020 13: 51 New
      16
      Quote: Undecim
      I don't understand why people are so worried about food prices and their growth in Russia?
      But Russia has "Zircon", "Dagger", "Vanguard", "Poseidon", "Armata", "Bulava", "Yars" and other "analogous" things, thanks to which Russians will go to heaven, and all the rest will die!
      Isn't that prospect worth tightening your belts and reducing consumption?

      A real battle clip must see "Poseidon" and die, that is, well, this, right to heaven.
    2. Alf
      Alf 24 September 2020 22: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Undecim
      Isn't the prospect of going to heaven worth tightening your belts and reducing your consumption?

      Worth it. But I want to eat every day. hi
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 24 September 2020 22: 16 New
        +5
        And you go to three meals a day - Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
        1. Alf
          Alf 24 September 2020 22: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Undecim
          And you go to three meals a day - Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

          I tried it. On Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday, I really want not to eat, but to eat. And the dog almost grabs the heels. laughing
  • KKND
    KKND 24 September 2020 14: 16 New
    +3
    I read the comments and neigh, thank you guys. good
    For a long time you were here, on the forum, telling tales about superweapons, getting up from your knees, decaying America and then suddenly a problem posed, the people of the campaign would soon really get worse. That's bad luck then. Old fairy tales will no longer be rolled out, new ones must be invented. Someone usually, as usual, began to say that the people are to blame, someone dragged some conspiracies of retail chains, someone "there is nothing of this", someone "this is all a provocation," "the fifth column" and so on.
    In general, guys, let's come up with it, I believe in you. Thought must develop. wassat
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 24 September 2020 14: 35 New
    +3
    Still, the standard of living was compared and of course the salaries, otherwise our prices are the same as in the EU, and the salary of the Russian Federation ...
  • Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 24 September 2020 15: 22 New
    0
    Ha! Well, well ... In our country (before the coronavirus closure of the borders), as we saw people in the supermarket with a full trolley, or even more than one, they immediately knew that it was someone from EstoLitLatvia. It was profitable for them to travel twice a month to Russia, while sweeping away literally everything, even the cocoa ... And (a friend wrote from Riga) now they are waiting, they will not wait for the opening of the borders. Probably starving, poor fellows ... laughing
  • fa2998
    fa2998 24 September 2020 16: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: askort154
    It's like comparing the standard of living in Moscow and Uryupinsk.

    Sorry, but our authorities are the same hypocrite, they consider the average salary in the country. (40 thousand-45 thousand, etc.) The article is also the average one for the EU and Russia.
    And the inflation cited by you - who counts it ???
  • Charik
    Charik 24 September 2020 20: 19 New
    0
    They did the right thing by introducing a ban on the entry of unknown Europeans in response to economic sanctions against Russia, even though now they from Europe will not come to eat us
  • Rokambol
    Rokambol 24 September 2020 21: 13 New
    +8
    Food prices in Russia have risen three times higher than in the European Union

    I wonder how, in comparison with the countries of the African continent, how do food prices differ?
  • 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 24 September 2020 21: 46 New
    +1
    The question is painful. In Europe, most of the products are really cheaper (I will not cite Austria, Switzerland as an example, it is expensive and salary there most of all), everyday things are cheaper and cars can also be chosen tolerable and not expensive in the secondary market (although there will be much more insurance for it there), and housing is expensive, on the contrary, and not everyone can buy. But they live. We have our advantages, but it's still a shame, the sediment is gnawing ...))))))