"Self-regulating engines": aircraft designer spoke about the features of the future Chinese 6th generation fighter

The Chinese media published an interview with aircraft designer Wang Heifeng of Chengdu Aircraft Industry. Wang Heifeng is known for being one of the designers of the fifth generation J-20 fighter, which was put into service with the PLA Air Force.

The aircraft designer in an interview touched upon the creation of a sixth generation fighter. Moreover, the question itself from Chinese journalists sounded against the background of news from the United States, where it was stated that the Americans were working on creating a prototype of the "fighter of the future."

Wang Heifeng said that such work started in the PRC:

I am confident that by 2035, and perhaps even sooner, you will see these efforts turn into powerful weapon new generation to protect our airspace. We have already reviewed, selected and supplemented some technological features in accordance with various war scenarios.

According to an aircraft designer from Chengdu Aircraft Industry, one of the foundations of the sixth generation fighter (according to the Chinese classification - the fifth) is the use of artificial intelligence. He also added that promising aircraft will be distinguished by "better stealth" and omnidirectional detection systems.

Wang Heifeng:

The aircraft will be armed with hypersonic and laser weapons, and will receive self-regulating engines.

The adjustment, as noted, will be controlled by artificial intelligence systems.

At the same time, Chinese experts have not yet solved the problems with their own engines for fighters of existing generations.

Comments

[Victor_B]

At the same time, Chinese experts have not yet solved the problems with their own engines for fighters of existing generations.

Actually the fighter is "built around the engine"!

[Same lech]

Actually the fighter is "built around the engine"!

And the A-10 warthog was built around the cannon. The main goal of building a flying machine is to fly well or chop the target to pieces ... it is rarely possible to achieve the same balance for a military aircraft.

[Victor_B]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

And the A-10 warthog was built around the cannon.

So he's never a fighter!

[Same lech]

But a wonderful attack aircraft ... in the future, I think not only fighters can become unmanned ... if the AI ​​really reaches heights, it can be shoved into any aircraft ... just think how many opportunities will appear in the destruction of people ... no matter how cynical it may sound ...

[Revolver]

And not only flying. For example, armored vehicles, missile boats, perhaps even submarines. If you are at war, then let the robots kill the robots, and preferably away from populated areas.

[Magic archer]

Such articles are always smiling) requirements for a 6th generation fighter have not yet been developed! One thing is clear. It is more likely to be unmanned. But the engine is generally a pig in a poke. The British want to install the ROCKET in their prototype! So the 6th generation is only in comics.

[Eug]

All declared so far is a set of loud words. All this was said before him, except, perhaps, the fact that "... we examined, selected and supplemented some technological features in accordance with various scenarios of war." As I understand it, they have formed the TK, but it will change more than once under the influence of various factors .. and again - his phrase about all-encompassing detection systems and lasers - this will require radical decisions on the power of onboard energy in comparison with its current level. So far, this is fantastic ..

[Livonetc]

"get self-regulating motors."
Advice please.
What is generally meant by "self-regulation" of the engine?

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Livonetc

"get self-regulating motors."
Advice please.
What is generally meant by "self-regulation" of the engine?

Perhaps this term was written down from the words of Van Heifen himself, who, in fact, is old and has lost his teeth, and at the same time diction, Van Helsing.

[voyaka uh]

Adaptive engine is developed by Americans.
In the engine, separately: 1) speed mode (as in fighters), 2) economy mode (as in passenger liners).

[iouris]

Quote: voyaka uh

In the engine, separately: 1) speed mode (as in fighters), 2) economy mode (as in passenger liners).

... and a mode for standing in traffic jams.

[voyaka uh]

Hanging like an F-35B?
Not a bad idea ...

[d4rkmesa]

Well, not quite passenger, the bypass degree is still much less. It will slightly increase the ferry range and raise the resource on such flights.

[Herman 4223]

That is, they will make a semblance of product 30.
And a new adaptive engine for Ф22 / 35, which is being developed in the USA.

[nikvic46]

Perhaps the Chinese will achieve something in the future, but for now the air defense is on ours. And tanks with our guns.

[rocket757]

Quote: Victor_B

Actually the fighter is "built around the engine"!

Maybe it will happen that they will build around artificial intelligence !!! Not straight tomorrow ......

[newcomer]

Sound thought. But the engines will still be needed.

[rocket757]

When a specialist explains that now everything is built around the engine, this is understandable.
It happens, as he said, that a product is installed on a successful airframe, the engine is already of a different, later development ... this can be difficult if the engine was not created specially, for a working airframe ...
In general, not quite like everywhere else. Aviation technology has its own specificity! But the designer also knows all this, take into account ... that's why they are specialists.

[newcomer]

I agree. It's just that the Chinese do not have a normal engine. And they have already swung at the "self-regulating" one, as I understand it, they have problems with alloy technologies.

[rocket757]

They have already created their own design school ... they need to develop everything else, and this requires time, resources and talented designers.
In general, we'll see how they succeed ...

[newcomer]

Do any of these dreamer applicants even know what the sixth generation is? Everyone carries his own heresy_ amer, Chinese. And why do they all call the board computer AI? AI is self-developing intelligence, like bio intelligence. AI is a self-sufficient cyber personality, and the mechanism that it controls is a tool for action, that is, as a body for our intelligence. It cannot be used, as they say now, partly on units and assemblies, this is done by an advanced computer board.
And yes, I almost forgot. Hypersound. missiles, laser, all-aspect tracking, so this is our SU57.

[Herman 4223]

China is creating a new fighter jet. They decided on the requirements for it. The new model of the aircraft in relation to the old is a new generation, it seems like that.

[newcomer]

It's like: MIG29 is already the fifth generation compared to the 31st?
One of the differences is the functionality of the machine, judging by their approach to requirements, they need our SU57.

[Herman 4223]

Well, moment-29 and moment-31 performed different tasks and did not replace each other and were created almost at the same time. And so yes, what is declared for the modernized su-57, which should appear by the mid-twenties, roughly corresponds to what the Chinese want for the new aircraft.

[Herman 4223]

I'm more interested in how we are working on the appearance of the aircraft of the future.

[newcomer]

Yes normal_ plus or minus. Working on MIL (conditionally) 41. But this is a high-altitude, two-sphere hypersonic PAK DP. On the sixth, the conquest of superiority, while silent, it pleases. Ours will be smarter and more serious entih.

[d4rkmesa]

AI is a loose concept. You can make artificial neural networks, train them in thousands of simulations and send them flying on the right hardware. But in fact, the same birds can easily do with instincts, without any training, i.e. the initial topology of neurons is of great importance. Google is now actively working on this to combine both approaches. Oddly enough, but still not able to reproduce the brain exactly. Corresponding, modern AI is too capitalized I.

[Prisoner]

So he introduced the comrade designer behind the podium, behind him the flags of the PRC. Very beautiful. And the words are beautiful. With business, with preliminary results, how?

[Runoway]

There are no explanations SELF-REGULATING ENGINE IS IT HOW?

[Yok Migarek]

Everything is simple. The engine is on the plane and self-regulates. If he wants to fly, he does not want to - he will not fly. Or it will fly slowly and sadly ... He's with AI.

[d4rkmesa]

Variable bypass ratio and bypass control of the 3rd, cold circuit.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Runoway

There are no explanations SELF-REGULATING ENGINE IS IT HOW?

This is not a correct translation of "Adaptive Engine"

[Vadim237]

“I am sure that by 2035, and perhaps even earlier, you will see how these efforts will turn into a powerful new generation weapon to protect our airspace.” We will certainly see how China will buy these engines from Russia.

[agoran]

The Chinese have a problem with materials. That is, copying this one thing, but making alloys using a certain technology is already difficult.
Well, double-circuit leads to an increase in the midsection, for a civilian it is not a question, for a military s-that this is unacceptable.