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Kudrin, Gref and Chubais's laurels

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Kudrin, Gref and Chubais's laurels

There is no way back



Today it is difficult to compare the "Chubais case" with the Lenin case: if it lives, it somehow does not win very well. The plans for privatization, the big one that liberal economists have dreamed of for years, are being implemented with a creak, and few people are now really considering this source of budget replenishment seriously.

However, there are exceptions confirming the rule, and quite numerous. Only to remind of their own craving for transferring the state, which means, the tightly regulated part of the economy, to purely private rails, very few dare.

But even among them it is impossible not to single out Alexei Kudrin, now quite successfully managing the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation. The other day, he proposed, instead of the expected increase in a number of taxes, to sharply increase the pace of privatization in Russia, which could bring up to 200-300 billion rubles to the budget annually.


Why did Kudrin remember Anatoly Chubais's "work of life" again? After all, it seems that the current solid position does not oblige Kudrin to anything. It seems that it is a habit, and an image, about which they say in vain that it is nothing. Kudrin is an undisputed liberal economist, and he a priori cannot be against a decrease in the state's share in the economy.

However, the speech of Alexei Kudrin is still slightly embarrassing, especially if we recall that at a time when one of his predecessors, namely Sergei Stepashin, was at the head of the country's most important control body, the plans to repeat the privatization actions of Anatoly Chubais seemed to have been given a big cross.

Serious passions flared up around the long-awaited report of the RF JV on the results of privatization, which the press announced in 2004 as sensational and with grave consequences for many. There is still debate about what levers were used to prevent the effect of an exploding bomb.

The speech of Vladimir Putin, who actually approved the thesis about the irreversibility of privatization in Russia, could well be regarded as some kind of result in those days. This thesis, by the way, by all indications, was included in the auditors' report of the Accounts Chamber not without his, the President of the country, direct participation.

But "irreversible" does not mean that it has no continuation. In those same years, Anatoly Chubais, Russia's chief privatizer, famously shattered with his reform perhaps the country's most important natural monopoly - RAO UES of Russia. And split it into dozens of private companies with practically no profit for the budget.

But with the promise of lower energy tariffs thanks to growing competition in the industry. Since then, electricity tariffs have only increased, and usually ahead of other prices, and privatization continued in the form of placing on the free market shares of Rosneft, Sberbank and VTB during the so-called people's IPOs.

Not on the lists


People's IPOs were not the most successful attempt to attract ordinary holders of free funds to privatization - to help them become a little capitalists. It was, of course, something completely different from the game of vouchers, but with almost the same result.

The widest strata of the population were deceived because of the sharp decline in stock prices and the promised dividends. Once again. It seemed to many then that it was really time to end privatization, especially since state corporations had already begun to be created in a number of key industries.


But even during the short period of Dmitry Medvedev's presidency, a real liberal attack was launched on state assets, the sale of which was trying to solve all the budget problems caused by the crisis of 2008-2009. We will not judge here the consequences for the state treasury, but the second wave of privatization was clearly not set.

After overcoming the crisis, when the situation became a little better, the deal was limited to the sale of 7,6% of Sberbank and 10% of VTB. The prelude turned out to be not the largest devaluation of the ruble and multibillion injections into structure-forming enterprises, mainly those ruled by notorious oligarchs.

Further, officials from relevant departments seriously started updating the lists for privatization, in which ordinary citizens were no longer listed, but enterprises regularly appeared, the transfer of which to private rails was refused even under President Yeltsin.

But this did not prevent such structures as ALROSA or Sovcomflot from emerging almost every year as "objects for sale", which someone has been stubbornly pulling for privatization almost since the mid-90s.

Today, in addition to these companies, the Novorossiysk Port, the legendary Kristall distillery, the United Grain Company, a solid (up to 20%) stake in Rosneft and one more a small piece of VTB.

Admittedly, Alexei Kudrin did not even mention any of these business structures in his speech. He's a strategist. And it is no coincidence that he complained that last year the budget received 11,5 billion rubles from privatization. (total! - Auth.), and 7,4 billion rubles. entered the settlement of the transaction in 2010.

However, this was not the main thing in his speech. “Our economy is still so state-controlled that we have resources of 200-300 billion rubles each. it is easy to receive a year from privatization within the next five to six years. Maybe some taxes would not have to be raised, ”said the head of the RF JV at a meeting of the State Duma's budget committee.

And again "the shadow of the father of the voucher"


The authors have considerable doubts that now, after the coronavirus economic downturn, we must continue to cling with all our strength to "the clear statement of the President of the Russian Federation in the March 2018 message that the share of the state in the economy should be reduced."

There are also doubts that in Russia it is really not worth raising taxes on the rich and the super-rich, as well as taxes on those who so barbarously draw resources from the bowels of the earth, which, in fact, belong to the entire people. We will remind that last week the State Duma received several bills from the government at once.

First, an increase in the MET rate for ferrous and non-ferrous metal ores, multicomponent complex ores, apatite and phosphorite ores, potash salts by 3,5 times. Secondly, the increase in the tax on income of citizens, which exceeds 5 million rubles a year, from 13 to 15%.

There is no doubt that the resource tax will give to the treasury no less than the expected 240 billion rubles a year. How much a rate hike can give for the rich is still very difficult to calculate. Therefore, we will simply accept Kudrin's latest theses for granted, given that his colleague from the liberal-economic camp, German Gref, has already managed to support him.


The current head of Sberbank, unlike the chief state controller, did not speak directly in favor of privatization, Chubais' laurels are not so attractive to him. But he, though a liberal and an unconditional monetarist, is also against raising taxes.

However, Mr. Gref's arguments are somewhat different. Chief among them: low tax rates are our competitive advantage. Why then did he not remember about another of our advantages - low salaries, which are too expensive for most Russian citizens?

Nevertheless, let us pay attention to the fact that German Gref, albeit indirectly, made it clear that he was not at all opposed to continuing the course of denationalizing the Russian economy. It is not for nothing that he called the sale of the Sberbank, which he heads, state and de facto and de jure, from the Central Bank to the government, one of the best deals of recent times.

Meanwhile, we at one time characterized it as nothing other than shifting funds from one sovereign's pocket to another (Sberbank is in the wrong pocket). From the point of view of production income, a change in title deeds does nothing.

And what, in general, can transfer from one pocket to another, the transfer of the owner from the bureaucratic chair to the director's office, give? Real income can only come from a product or service actually produced.

Liberals and monetarists, who are nothing more than accountants and cashiers in spirit, simply cannot understand this. Another thing is that in this way we managed to untie our hands for the use of several billion of budget funds.

Well, German Oskarovich, most likely, liked the transition from the tutelage of "tough" Elvira Nabiullina under the wing of Mikhail Mishustin, also "tough", but too busy. He has a mouth full of worries without Sberbank.
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  1. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 25 September 2020 15: 08
    36
    Their mugs are poured, red, like bugs sucked ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 25 September 2020 15: 16
      18
      And again "the shadow of the father of the voucher"

      It wouldn't be bad if
      1. solzh
        solzh 25 September 2020 15: 57
        21
        In a low light, a light burns.
        Red-haired Chubaisik is sitting by the window.
        Young, handsome, gray eyes,
        redhead, thoughts endlessly.
        Thinks how to turn that moment again
        where he cut lavender with a struggling drunkard.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 25 September 2020 16: 25
          +7
          Quote: solzh
          where he cut lavender with a struggling drunkard.

          Yes, he does not live in poverty even this hour.
          1. solzh
            solzh 25 September 2020 16: 29
            19
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Yes, he does not live in poverty even this hour.

            And he will not live in poverty. He is always transferred / assigned to where there is very good funding. "Friends" will not let him live in poverty. They will always find what to cut him what to do.
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 25 September 2020 16: 58
              10
              Quote: solzh
              He is always transferred / assigned to where there is very good funding.

              1. CSKA
                CSKA 26 September 2020 12: 02
                -4
                Give an example?
                1. Varyag71
                  Varyag71 29 September 2020 11: 19
                  0
                  Clear proof of how bad the intelligence of the Kremlin bots is
                  1. CSKA
                    CSKA 29 September 2020 13: 19
                    -2
                    Quote: Varyag71
                    Clear proof of how bad the intelligence of the Kremlin bots is

                    Clear proof of the lack of intelligence among the poor commies. You are not even able to give an example of an official who, after a short term, is back in office. Lack of brains is an indicator of your dinosaurs. But there’s nothing. You are already the past. As you whined and wake up whining helplessly.))))) This is just your destiny. In life, they have not achieved anything, so whine. Cheer further.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 25 September 2020 15: 18
      32
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Their mugs are poured, red, like bugs sucked ...

      Either there will be more .. Today I read that they are going to sell and make private territories with forest .. They motivate that the private owner will plant the forest himself .. In general, soon there will be no mushroom picking ..
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 25 September 2020 15: 35
        +8
        Well, in the wooded outback, people are not like in the capital. They can also punish a greyhound. You take the mushroom away from him, and in response he will dig a wolf's hole on the way or let the rooster go. Business then, half a liter of moonshine for courage.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 25 September 2020 15: 42
          +3
          Author:
          Alexey Podymov, Anatoly Ivanov, Doctor of Economics, Professor
          cool "tale of bygone years" ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 25 September 2020 17: 19
            15
            And so it was.
            In 2017, miners of mineral resources pushed themselves well - by as much as 1,5 trillion rubles, without releasing anything to the state for the development of subsoil. Meanwhile, the economy was smoothly and steadily sliding down to "negative growth", the ruble was quietly devalued, the budget was not filled, and in 2018, presidential aide Andrei Belousov came up with a proposal: let the owners of mineral resources simultaneously contribute a little more than 500 billion rubles to the budget ... After all, they still got the bowels practically for free ...
            I remember this terrible howl - the same one that was raised by liberal economists and journalists of all 50 liberal shades. The howl, turning into an indignant wild roar, barking and yapping, its echoes reached the VO site and were sarcastically commented on by us here.
            They refused! They refused, despite the fact that even 4 of these companies out of many in 2019 contrived to pay dividends to their shareholders in the amount of as much as 470 billion rubles ...

            And now Andrei Removich is Deputy Prime Minister, and with vindictive satisfaction I perceive the law he lobbied "to increase the severance tax rate for ferrous and non-ferrous metal ores, multicomponent complex ores, apatite and phosphorite ores, potash salts by 3,5 times." In combination with the increase in tax on funds withdrawn to offshore, this is already trillions of rubles.
            I think Belousov will put pressure on the rest of the offshore fraternity. Because they have been nursing them too long, you can no longer hesitate. I can imagine what kind of rush the vice president will have to experience.
            1. BAI
              BAI 26 September 2020 20: 23
              +2
              with vindictive satisfaction I perceive the law lobbied by him "to increase the severance tax rate on ferrous and non-ferrous metals, multicomponent complex ores, apatite and phosphorite ores, potash salts by 3,5 times." In combination with the increase in tax on funds withdrawn to offshore, this is already trillions of rubles.

              Do you understand who will compensate for this shortage?
              1. depressant
                depressant 26 September 2020 21: 34
                0
                Well then!
                Of course, there will be price increases for everything. Anyway. Taxes and fines have already been prepared and continue to be stamped, just hold on! Especially motorists with registrars were hit.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 25 September 2020 16: 05
          14
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Well, in the wooded outback, people are not like in the capital. They can also punish a greyhound. You take the mushroom away from him, and in response he will dig a wolf's hole on the way or let the rooster go. Business then, half a liter of moonshine for courage.

          This is true ... only soon there will be no hinterland, everyone will die out ... and the reformers will have plenty of space to drink as much as they can ...
        3. apro
          apro 25 September 2020 16: 12
          +5
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Well, in the wooded outback, people are not like in the capital.

          And what about the guards? And they can punish ... there were precedents ...
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 26 September 2020 20: 30
            0
            Quote: apro
            Quote: 7,62x54
            Well, in the wooded outback, people are not like in the capital.

            And what about the guards? And they can punish ... there were precedents ...

            Here the guards had to write in quotes, I would not rack my brains, what does the guards units of the RF Armed Forces have to do with them - they are guardsmen, and VV-shniki are "guardsmen", they can, yes laughing
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 25 September 2020 16: 14
        25
        It is interesting - everyone is pouring water on Chubais, Kudrin, Siluanov and other liberals .. But for some reason no one remembers their chief chief, without whose approval no disgrace would have been possible ..
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 25 September 2020 16: 20
          23
          Quote: paul3390
          But for some reason no one remembers their main boss, b

          It is not yet clear whether he is their boss or a subordinate .. wassat
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 25 September 2020 16: 32
          14
          hi
          Quote: paul3390
          But for some reason no one remembers their chief boss, without whose approval no disgrace would have been possible ..

          So far, for the majority of the population, we have only bad boyars, and he is a good tsar. He is struggling with all this lewdness, only he cannot overcome it, he is sick.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 25 September 2020 16: 47
            -3
            so it has always been)))) and vryatli will change
        3. Alf
          Alf 25 September 2020 20: 10
          +3
          Quote: paul3390
          It is interesting - everyone is pouring water on Chubais, Kudrin, Siluanov and other liberals .. But for some reason no one remembers their chief chief, without whose approval no disgrace would have been possible ..

          He knows nothing and has nothing to do with it.
        4. CSKA
          CSKA 26 September 2020 12: 03
          -3
          Quote: paul3390
          Siluanov and other liberals

          Well, if Kudrin and Chubais are liberals in economics, how did you enroll Siluanov as a liberal?
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 September 2020 20: 07
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        It's only the beginning..

        That's right ... if you don't transplant all this liberal viper. But look what is happening in the United States now ... there generally the hair stands on end.

        Reporting in the heat of the heat from the USA.
      4. Alf
        Alf 25 September 2020 20: 09
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        In general, soon it will not go mushrooming ..

        They care about us. What if we pick a poisonous mushroom and die in terrible agony?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 25 September 2020 20: 12
          +2
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Svarog
          In general, soon it will not go mushrooming ..

          They care about us. What if we pick a poisonous mushroom and die in terrible agony?

          From such care, we die out ... These only care about their own fifth point .. hi
          1. Alf
            Alf 25 September 2020 20: 15
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Svarog
            In general, soon it will not go mushrooming ..

            They care about us. What if we pick a poisonous mushroom and die in terrible agony?

            From such care, we are dying out ...

            "Well, 30-50 million will die out, they didn't fit into the market."
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 September 2020 20: 20
              +4
              Quote: Alf
              "Well, 30-50 million will die out, they didn't fit into the market."

              I think the people have enough brains to understand and not forgive .. It's time to see that the extermination is direct ..
              1. Alf
                Alf 25 September 2020 20: 38
                +4
                Quote: Svarog
                It's time to see that the extermination is going straight.

                Even here, on VO, there are a lot of blind people.
      5. Malyuta
        Malyuta 25 September 2020 22: 37
        14
        Quote: Svarog
        In general, soon it will not go mushrooming ..

        No mushrooms, Colleague, mushrooms are no longer laid for a real glue.
    3. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 26 September 2020 15: 49
      +1
      but what does it have to do with them, without Putin they can't fart, again the old record - the boyars are bad bastards, and the tsar is good. It's time to understand that Putin is a liberal to the bone, this is the same Eltsin, only sober
  2. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 25 September 2020 15: 11
    20
    One field of berries - that Chubais, that Gref. If only to tear everything up and plunder what is still left of the state.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 25 September 2020 15: 19
      17
      Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
      One field of berries - that Chubais, that Gref. If only to tear everything up and plunder what is still left of the state.

      A team of reformers .. have been reforming for 30 years .. the results are obvious ..
    2. solzh
      solzh 25 September 2020 15: 58
      28
      "Mythological Dictionary" edited by Academicians D. S. Likhachev, B. A. Rybakov
      “Chubais (chubas, chubys, Germans (?) Chubais, red imp) - in the lower mythology of Great Russians and Latgalians - a small malevolent house spirit. Ch. Was represented as a pot-bellied red rat“ with a face like a human ”.
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 25 September 2020 22: 39
      18
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      One field of berries - that Chubais, that Gref. If only to tear everything up and plunder what is still left of the state.

      They are all untouchable, they are friends of a friend!
  3. Hypertension
    Hypertension 25 September 2020 15: 15
    13
    What a difficult day today on VO ... Now Gorbach, now these figures ...
    1. solzh
      solzh 25 September 2020 16: 00
      21
      Quote: Hyperion
      Now Gorbach, then these figures

      Remember one devil marked and the rest will not keep you waiting yes
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 25 September 2020 15: 15
    18
    Today it is difficult to compare the "Chubais case" with the Lenin case: if it lives, it wins somehow not very well

    His cause lives on and thrives and wins .. He was ready to sacrifice millions for the sake of democracy, and so it happens, the population is shrinking .. there are more billionaires .. everything was grabbed and cut off ..
    1. Alf
      Alf 25 September 2020 20: 12
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      they grabbed and sawed everything ..

      Not all...
    2. valton
      valton 29 September 2020 15: 56
      +1
      It looks like we are not destined to see these nits crushed!
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 25 September 2020 15: 19
    +5
    Liberals and monetarists, who are nothing more than accountants and cashiers in spirit ...

    I would call them differently ...
    Not all of Mother Russia has been killed yet. There are still a couple of government buns left.
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 25 September 2020 15: 22
    14
    It seems that we live among people whose idols were all the negative characters in literature and cinema. They are ready to do anything to take away from others and add to themselves. They don't care what comes after them. Today, now and as much as possible ...
  7. andr327
    andr327 25 September 2020 15: 22
    14
    Gref with his Sberbank puts a strong stranglehold on the inhabitants of the country: under the sweet talk about a good life, transfer the entire turnover of money only through Sberbank.
    In addition to credit bondage, there is also consumer
  8. Alien From
    Alien From 25 September 2020 15: 24
    +9
    All of the above are enemies of Russia! IMHO of course ...
    1. solzh
      solzh 25 September 2020 16: 04
      19
      Your IMHO plus my IMHO plus someone else's opinion in solidarity with yours, and more ... And in the end it turns out that the majority of the people agree with your definition for the specified characters in the article. All of them, these under-reformers, are enemies of the people.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 25 September 2020 16: 23
        +6
        Unfortunately, the opinion of the people is ABSOLUTELY cared for!
  9. Odysseus
    Odysseus 25 September 2020 15: 24
    20
    Let me remind you that we are talking about the former Deputy Prime Minister, and now the head of the Accounts Chamber, the head of the Ministry of Finance, and now the head of Sberbank, and the former head of RAO UES. This is after the 90s.
    That is, they are not just "liberals from the economy", but simply representatives of the Russian government.
    Are the authors opposed? Excellent . Well then, I must tell the truth, they oppose the existing government, headed by Mr Putin. They are afraid to say this and instead criticize some mythical "liberals". And, by the way, if they criticize the liberals, and not the government, it would be nice to say, who has not been a liberal in our country over the past 20 years? However, this is not done either. Because there are simply none.
    PS Usually they cite Glazyev as an example. However, he never entered the government. The maximum of his career is advisor to the President of the Russian Federation.
    PPS A very funny passage that the "liberals" (that is, Gref and Kudrin) are simply "not given" to understand how harmful they are. Yes, yes, here Gref and Kudrin simply do not understand anything in our country, but the unknown authors, whoa. In fact, they act in their own interests and in the interests of their ruling group, and they do not care about the general benefit.
    1. solzh
      solzh 25 September 2020 16: 06
      15
      Quote: Odyssey
      They usually cite Glazyev as an example. However, he never entered the government. The maximum of his career is an adviser to the President of the Russian Federation

      Glazyev was the Minister of Foreign Economic Relations of the Russian Federation under EBN from December 23, 1992 to September 22, 1993 hi
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 25 September 2020 16: 16
        +7
        Quote: solzh
        Glazyev was the Minister of Foreign Economic Relations of the Russian Federation under EBN from December 23, 1992 to September 22, 1993

        Thanks for the clarification. But I was referring to the years after the 2000s.
        But the fact that Glazyev (who is called a patriot and an opponent of the liberals) entered the government during the peak of economic reforms under the EBN is very significant.
  10. pereselenec
    pereselenec 25 September 2020 15: 25
    +7
    It is a pity that Putin has not yet been informed of all Chubais's atrocities and that he continues to reassign the red-haired demon to the grain positions.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 25 September 2020 15: 42
      10
      Quote: pereselenec
      It is a pity that Putin has not yet been informed of all Chubais's atrocities and that he continues to reassign the red-haired demon to the grain positions.

      what ???
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 25 September 2020 15: 58
        +9
        Quote: Dead Day
        what ???

        "Seems to me, gentlemen, it was ... a comedy." I mean, sarcasm.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 25 September 2020 18: 04
      +7
      It is a pity that Putin has not yet been informed of all Chubais's atrocities and that he continues to reassign the red-haired demon to the grain positions.
      . laughing good
  11. nnm
    nnm 25 September 2020 15: 30
    19
    According to the press release of Sberbank, the introduction of a new logo for the Bank, the development of which cost 20 million rubles, will require expenses in 2.5 billion rubles for 5 years.

    I don't even want to comment on THIS ...
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 25 September 2020 15: 38
      +8
      Gref said that it was a tick, but for some reason it reminded me of the clock hands, which remind: "it is necessary to pay the mortgage and the loan"
      1. Vinnibuh
        Vinnibuh 25 September 2020 17: 27
        0
        You are right, it really looks like a clock)
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 29 September 2020 11: 28
        0
        Judgment clock for a population fully credited
    2. Hypertension
      Hypertension 25 September 2020 15: 42
      +7
      Quote: nnm
      I don't even want to comment on THIS ...

      And I would comment properly, but Zarathustra (site rules) does not allow ...
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 25 September 2020 15: 44
      +7
      Quote: nnm
      According to the press release of Sberbank, the introduction of a new logo for the Bank, the development of which cost 20 million rubles, will require expenses in 2.5 billion rubles for 5 years.

      I don't even want to comment on THIS ...

      and I have bought new forks ..
      1. nnm
        nnm 25 September 2020 15: 45
        +7
        Not on credit from Sberbank, then at least, Grandfather?)))
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 25 September 2020 17: 20
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        and I have bought new forks ..
        laughing Did Sberbank take the old pitchfork for debts? New campaign also does not use wassat a joke.drinks
        1. Alf
          Alf 25 September 2020 20: 14
          +3
          Quote: Pilot
          New campaign also does not use

          Bent? Were they Chinese?
    4. pereselenec
      pereselenec 25 September 2020 22: 47
      +2
      Quote: nnm
      According to the press release of Sberbank, the introduction of a new logo for the Bank, the development of which cost 20 million rubles, will require expenses in 2.5 billion rubles for 5 years.

      I don't even want to comment on THIS ...


      Those. were those 20 billion rubles that Gref had paid before to sfvit the tick of the Savings Bank sideways were wasted?

      http://www.greenv.ru/new_logo_sb

  12. Xenofont
    Xenofont 25 September 2020 15: 48
    +5
    Thanks to the policy of "plush" Putin, Gref's Sber-Kraken will swallow our country, monopolizing control over most of the economy and finance. There is no point in talking about the Chubais.
  13. apro
    apro 25 September 2020 16: 12
    +6
    But Putin doesn't even know ... what is going on ...
  14. solzh
    solzh 25 September 2020 16: 14
    14
    Alexey Kudrin, now quite successfully managing the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation

    laughing Kudrin successful laughing He, like Chubais, is not submerged.
  15. ximkim
    ximkim 25 September 2020 16: 59
    +1
    All three of these names are statesmen with higher education who were appointed (by the President of the Russian Federation from 10.07.1991 to 25.09.2020) to organize and oversee the privatization process. , what guarantees have appeared?
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 25 September 2020 17: 04
    +2
    Today it is difficult to compare the "Chubais case" with the Lenin case: if it lives, it somehow does not win very well. The plans for privatization, the big one that liberal economists have dreamed of for years, are being implemented with a creak, and few people are now really considering this source of budget replenishment seriously.
    I read this at the beginning of the article and ... did not continue. When such "pearls" are issued, one question arises for the authors - whoever owns everything in the country now? sad
  17. imobile2008
    imobile2008 25 September 2020 17: 19
    0
    Quote: Odyssey
    Quote: solzh
    Glazyev was the Minister of Foreign Economic Relations of the Russian Federation under EBN from December 23, 1992 to September 22, 1993

    Thanks for the clarification. But I was referring to the years after the 2000s.
    But the fact that Glazyev (who is called a patriot and an opponent of the liberals) entered the government during the peak of economic reforms under the EBN is very significant.

    Considering that the Communists had a majority on Yeltsin and passed laws, it becomes quite interesting. I remember Nemtsov transplanted officials into our car, and did not sit for a long time, it was immediately removed, which is a pity, now the cars of officials often cost more than 40 million rubles. It is not clear what these cars are
  18. Radikal
    Radikal 25 September 2020 17: 26
    +6
    Quote: pereselenec
    It is a pity that Putin has not yet been informed of all Chubais's atrocities and that he continues to reassign the red-haired demon to the grain positions.

    You forgot to insert this emoticon into your comment - wassat .
    hi
  19. nikvic46
    nikvic46 25 September 2020 17: 41
    +1
    It is now clear that with such a social system there can be no other people. And there is no need to look to the West and to the East. There are exactly the mighty of this world.
    1. depressant
      depressant 25 September 2020 19: 01
      +8
      Colleague nikvic 46, this is something else.
      Here I read what people write in the comments. Gref and Chubais have red faces, and also vouchers ...
      Now imagine that some citizen of about 25 years old comes to the site and thinks: why are they all so mad at this, say, Chubais? Yes, I have a neighbor with the same red mug, but quite a pretty guy.
      So you need to explain? Explain that when the citizen was only five years old, Chubais began to dismember the unified energy-generating system of the USSR into separate fragments and began to merge them for a penny to his friends and foreigners. And leaked. With compensation from the pocket of the state for their investment in new generating capacities. Like, build, and I, the state, will reimburse you. This is for private traders! Owners!
      It turned out the following.
      New capacities, even if they were created, are small and in the wrong place. And the large ones, previously connected to each other into a single power system, but now not, began to work unevenly. In some places, the capacity dropped to 100%, as, for example, at the Sayano-Shushinskaya HPP, while others were idle at that time. As a result, accidents at actively operated facilities have sharply increased. This is instead of compensating for the generation of one power by the generation of another, in order to prevent the continuous operation of the same facility by 100%. So Sayano-Shushenskaya rushed.
      At the same time, generation began to be produced not where it is needed, but where it is profitable. And if earlier, in the USSR, they looked where it was necessary, there, according to their strength and capabilities, they built hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants, nuclear power plants, etc. - in the required volume. We managed to do something, something we didn't - history turned its back on us ...
      And now it’s like this: in one place it’s empty, there’s a village, well, let it be by candlelight, but they want - by a torch. And here we will build, fight for profit. And if someone doesn't pay, we'll cut off the wire. So what if a military unit - we do not care! What other shield of the Motherland? And whose, excuse me, homeland?
      And now the English branch of the Italian Enel in the form of Enel Russia has invaded our territory and is in charge of the strategic energy-producing industry.
      What does it own?
      In Russia, Enel owns stakes in the power generating company Enel OGK-5, the gas production company SeverEnergia LLC and the Rusenergosbyt electricity distribution company.
      It produces on the basis of something built not by her and sells it to us ... And if you can somehow come to terms with the fact that "House in the Village" and hundreds of our other brands are not ours for a long time, sold on the vine along with the production, then come to terms with the fact that foreigners on our territory sell us strategically important raw materials - electricity generated at the power plants we have built - this, excuse me, is absurd!
      This is the act of Chubais, for which he is not rewarded in any way - for the switch in the hands of enemies.
  20. parusnik
    parusnik 25 September 2020 17: 51
    +4
    At the helm of the state, just some patriots ... laughing which they consider themselves .. laughing
    1. depressant
      depressant 26 September 2020 08: 44
      +2
      But I didn't finish!
      She said and said ... Yes, the strength is not the same, the disease torments, as it is now clear, forever. But as much as I have strength, I will say so much ...
      That is why it was necessary to destroy the Unified Energy System of Russia in a hurry? Why with such indecent haste, right from the beginning of the XNUMXs, Chubais began to reduce it to zero, I have no doubt - at the suggestion of Putin? But rather, those who stood behind Putin's back, whose interests he so willingly, with such zeal expressed, considering them his own.
      Because electricity is consumed in huge quantities by industry - factories and factories, and they, according to the plans of Putin and those behind him - were, or still remain, had to be destroyed.

      The question is why? Because they were employed by welded Soviet collectives of workers and engineers, who suddenly could remember that they were Soviet, and therefore represented a formidable force that could one day come to consolidation and successfully resist the transformation of Russia into an appendage of the capitalist world. Let me remind you that during the years of Putin's rule, about 80 thousand enterprises were killed, some of which were unique. So why a single power system capable of transferring energy to a plant, in which there is a shortage of it, from another, in which at the moment it is surplus? To support the activities of enterprises with workers disloyal to political power? There are no those plants and factories, there is no unified system, and the excess of generated electricity can be sold abroad - they will buy there because they are developing, or they do not have enough of their own. Here is such a sale of "excess".

      But something remained. That, without which it is impossible.
      And factories and factories are being built little by little. Those that are being built in spite of, that contradict the ideas of the authorities to turn the country into a transit system for oil and gas products, or those that are "minerals for sale", and also Voenprom. They need energy! But Chubais managed to bring such laws under the relations of industrialists and energy sellers that electricity for factories turned out to be monstrously expensive. It is many times more expensive for them than for the average consumer. And its price falls on the prime cost, making Russian goods not only unprofitable for production and uncompetitive in the world market, but also killing any desire to produce it.
      And then something amazing began.
      Wishing to survive, the remaining meager industry, the one without which it is absolutely impossible, began to switch to its own energy generation. Plants and factories began to independently and at their own expense build power plants of the type that is available to them, what it turns out, and like this to survive. Turbines of small, medium and large capacity are now the most demanded product.

      Thus, if the USSR was characterized by powerful transmission networks, had huge industrial capacities and equally powerful utilities, now not only has the volume of industrial production been sharply reduced, but the utilities are everywhere in ruin, and therefore large sellers of utilities are forced to build their own boiler houses. use gas turbine installations. The remaining fragmented, scattered generation of electricity has a lot of daily peaks and dips, which cannot be regulated due to the redistribution of electricity - due to weak, or even completely absent connections between fragments of the formerly unified generation system ...

      Now, when the epidemic, when the world economic crisis is growing, in connection with which some enterprises are temporarily closed, others will be killed and will never be restored, there is an excess of basic capacities, this excess is growing.

      But electricity is not a commodity that can be sent to the warehouse! Electricity is not stored!

      This means that in the foreseeable future, of the previously planned nuclear power plants, only those will be built, without which it is absolutely impossible. For example, in Rostov, Crimea. New power unit near St. Petersburg. But if the sale of electricity abroad is not established, then some power plants of various types may be closed and never restored - for it is more expensive for themselves. Indeed, how to sell excess energy, say, from the Moscow region to developing China, if there is no unified energy system?

      The destruction of Russia's unified energy system is one of the prerequisites for the possible disintegration of Russia itself. This is if someone did not understand.
  21. Dimy4
    Dimy4 25 September 2020 17: 59
    +5
    Why, at one glance at these ro ... faces, do you want to take up the pitchfork? Moreover, no less than 70% of the country's adult population probably wants to do this.
    1. Respect
      Respect 25 September 2020 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: Dimy4
      Why, at one glance at these ro ... faces, do you want to take up the pitchfork? Moreover, no less than 70% of the country's adult population probably wants to do this.

      You feel right, Russian rebellious soul .. hi The limit is close.
      Especially this Gref. Is preparing again Sberbank for bankruptcy and a new name came up with "Spur"
      And the rumor was that compensation for burnt deposits would be small, and yet .. Now EVERYTHING!
      1. Alf
        Alf 25 September 2020 20: 18
        +1
        Quote: Respekt
        And there was a rumor that compensation for burnt deposits would be small, and yet.

        There will be. Small ones. Someday. If the crisis allows.
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 29 September 2020 11: 45
        0
        I don't know if it's true or not, but according to rumors, Gref is preparing new ATMs in Sberbank offices that work only with the help of biometrics.
    2. Alf
      Alf 25 September 2020 20: 17
      +4
      Quote: Dimy4
      Why, at one glance at these ro ... faces, do you want to take up the pitchfork? Moreover, no less than 70% of the country's adult population probably wants to do this.

  22. Respect
    Respect 25 September 2020 18: 08
    +2
    Kudrin, Gref and Chubais's laurels

    I looked at the photo before the article and I immediately felt sick and the memories of the 90s ..
    It is a pity that in Russia, not like in China, they do with such ... They live and their conscience does not torment and they are still trying to teach our minds to reason in their media, as the Gorbach said Judas recently, that it is time for Russia to change political thinking and start again the process that would go .. Padly!
  23. Alexy
    Alexy 25 September 2020 18: 52
    +1
    What is this article about? What did the authors want to convey?
    1. depressant
      depressant 26 September 2020 12: 37
      +1
      The authors wanted to convey the following.
      It is no secret that in the West there were and still are plans to destroy Russia to the state of small, warring states. But these plans must be carried out in such a way that none of those who can do this will press the nuclear button ...
      I admit that some forces put such a plan in front of Putin, entrusting him with the helm and giving him a cohort of so-called young reformers as assistants, of which Chubais, Kudrin, Gref are now heard.
      Putin allowed the destruction of Soviet industry during the golden shower of petrodollars, which, in the absence of sanctions, allowed to modernize factories, factories and agriculture, directing them in a modern direction. But to prevent the money from going into the economy, supporting it in the Soviet format, Kudrin was involved, whom he stacked in an untouchable fund. And Gref, in cooperation with Siluanov, Nabiullina and the Central Bank, facilitated the withdrawal of trillions of dollars abroad to the oligarchs' private offshore accounts. And in order to finish off the Soviet industry and food production, Chubais deprived them of industrial blood - cheap electricity, destroying the unified energy system of the USSR.
      This is the "merits" of these persons before us, if very superficially and briefly.
      In other words, the USSR was not killed in 92, but the gentlemen mentioned in the article have killed it over the past 20 years. Slowly, carefully, step by step, and purposefully --- so that no one understood anything, but on the contrary, was filled with illusions, fed on hopes "What if it gets better?", And the hand did not reach for the nuclear button. In a word, they are masters of their craft!

      The task was completed. The USSR, its science, art, education, medicine, industry, etc., remained in the memory of older generations. They were provided with pensions and, so as not to blather too much, they were allowed to privatize their housing, turning into small pieces of personal property, as it were, parts of the Soviet public good, they say, you also got it - and this while at the top they were sharing the country's bowels!

      What went wrong? Why was there a danger of moving the hand towards the button, which was clearly sensed in the West? Because now it is not the hand of some angry starley, from whom the collector has taken away some property, from whom the collector has taken away some property for the debts, but the hand of an angry Himself will now reach the button for launching an intercontinental ballistic missile.
      He long ago began to indicate the intention to keep the country in one piece ...

      They were not accepted in the West. They did not enter the club of the rich as equals. They are treated like some sniffy king of some sniffy Botswana. And they poke Himself with his nose at allegedly his crimes, but in fact, provocations organized by the West itself - provocations humiliating in their primitiveness, offensive in their hastily sewn together with white threads - do not even consider it necessary to attend to their fine elaboration. And even some pathetic mongrel Poland dares to threaten to arrest Himself.
      They were humiliated and insulted. They were shown their place. 30 pieces of silver were thrown to the traitors of their country in the form of a certain amount of condescending attention, and they expected to receive a bag of that attention with grateful bows. Not burnt out!
      And again - why is this with Himself? That's for the same. For trying to be on a par. Because the task of the collapse of Russia has not yet been completed.
      How do you do it? If there are personal ambitions unaccounted for by the foreign founders of the disintegration? Remember the Munich speech. Remember the last huge article about the Great Patriotic War. In addition, the continuously multiplying "friends" from his clan have not yet gathered good, but you can! How to give away a treat?
      And now Kudrin, Gref, Chubais are already changing their shoes - their time as the destroyers of the USSR is up, they are already nothing and nothing for the West, because they did not complete the task to the end, they lacked talent. So you need to settle down "at home" so as to be interesting to Himself.
      So they are attached. To his ambitions, to his interests.
      They are not interesting to me. I'm much more interested in the question, why are we still together? Something holds. The possibility of decay echoes with pain in the heart, threatens with the onset of eternal darkness.
  24. iouris
    iouris 25 September 2020 19: 20
    -1
    I am a liberal and they are Westerners. Do you see the difference?
  25. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 25 September 2020 20: 39
    +3
    Putin is to blame for everything, what are you sculpting here? Or did he not know anything? Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais, Stalin, Lenin. Everyone is to blame except Putin. We got it already.
  26. Million
    Million 25 September 2020 20: 44
    +3
    When the redhead dies, this day can be considered a national holiday
    1. iouris
      iouris 25 September 2020 20: 58
      -2
      Ponyakovsky will buy and sell you all (but at a higher price)! Ponyakovsky will outlive you all.
    2. Alf
      Alf 25 September 2020 22: 23
      +3
      Quote: Million
      When the redhead dies, this day can be considered a national holiday

      On this day, the accordion-accordion factory will fulfill its annual plan.
  27. Iskazi
    Iskazi 26 September 2020 01: 55
    +3
    another attempt to chop up greenery ..., Russia is sick with worms ...
    1. Bat039
      Bat039 26 September 2020 11: 49
      +2
      I agree, and it's time to poison the worms.
  28. nikvic46
    nikvic46 26 September 2020 07: 26
    +2
    If one of them embellished capitalism with beautiful words, then Chubais said directly that we are entering "criminal capitalism." And there is nothing to add or subtract. Something is not going according to his plan. But it is a matter of time.
  29. Bat039
    Bat039 26 September 2020 11: 48
    +2
    As for me, the Chubais and Gaidarov laurels are only drawn to execution with confiscation of property and eviction of their families from Moscow for permanent residence in some seedy northern farm, to polar bears
  30. evgen1221
    evgen1221 27 September 2020 06: 04
    0
    They are incorrigible - they think only in the category of selling everything. And when to create it? The idea of ​​an absolute withdrawal of the state from the economy and all other spheres of life, for me, is so dangerous because of the collapse of this very state and incessant crises.
  31. skobars
    skobars 27 September 2020 22: 32
    +1
    Red nit and his company against the wall.
  32. Aag
    Aag 28 September 2020 18: 12
    0
    ... And what is characteristic, there is not one alternative opinion about these ...
    Only the degree of negativity varies - from contempt to fierce hatred!
    Actually, there is nothing to add ...
    Although!! A number of comments in the current realities are already drawn to the article!
    All this is sad ((.
  33. aries2200
    aries2200 28 September 2020 19: 58
    0
    and why bricks don't fly ............................................. .........
  34. valton
    valton 29 September 2020 15: 44
    0
    When will these nits finally be crushed?
  35. yehat2
    yehat2 2 October 2020 10: 21
    -1
    What did you expect from Kudrin? This is not an economist, but an accountant.
    And his methods are the same. He can only shift, not create.
    So he offered to shift from one pocket to another.
    In general, I just do not understand HOW Gaidar, Chubais, Kudrin, Nabiullina, Gref generally got some kind of image of people who whip in the economy. They never said anything but obvious or frostbitten things.
  36. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 2 October 2020 10: 39
    0
    Faces of true enemies!