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The strangeness of the pandemic: where did the coronavirus go during the protests against Lukashenka

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At one time, Alexander Lukashenko was accused of ignoring the pandemic. Today we see hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Minsk, but there are no spikes in the incidence of coronavirus.


As you know, now in Belarus mass demonstrations of the opposition continue. Hundreds of thousands of people regularly take part in protests. Naturally, we are not talking about any effective protection against the virus: even if some of the protesters wear medical masks and gloves, this is a “drop in the bucket” against the background of the main “maskless” mass. Even from the footage from the protests, it is clear that several dozen of the entire crowd are wearing sanitary protection equipment.

Participants of opposition rallies are in daily contact with each other. People are different - of different sex, age, from different regions of the country. These are not only young people, but also mature people. Naturally, among them there should be those who are called carriers of the coronavirus, but there is no massive surge in the incidence in Belarus. At least nothing has been heard about the overcrowded clinics in the cities of Belarus.

Interestingly, in the spring of 2020, the entire world community angrily condemned Alexander Lukashenko, accusing him of ignoring the pandemic and failing to take measures to prevent the spread of coronavirus. The old man laughed it off, advised him to drink vodka and eat lard, take a steam bath.

In the end, it turns out, "Grigorich" was right: so much time has passed, and there is no evidence in favor of the catastrophic epidemiological situation in Belarus. In the conditions of mass protests, hospitals in Minsk and other cities of the country had to be "to the eyeballs". But they function as usual. What's the matter? Is the coronavirus not working on those who protest against the "dictator"?

The situation in Belarus makes one think about the very nature of all the information hysteria that was inflated during the spring - summer of 2020 around the coronavirus pandemic. Countries imposed severe restrictions on citizens, businesses were closed, huge financial losses followed, but as soon as it was required to bring leftists and African Americans onto the streets of American cities, the pandemic blew away like a wind: no problems, hundreds of thousands of people on the streets, tent camps. We saw this in Belarus too.


The most interesting thing is that no one even thinks now to criticize the leaders of the Belarusian opposition for putting the safety of their supporters at risk by taking them to the streets. Western media went wild on the topic of coronavirus in Belarus. It turns out that during the pandemic, anything was closed - from libraries to restaurants, but people standing half a meter apart (at best) in the squares of Belarusian cities raise no questions. The Western press would certainly react in exactly the same way if similar events took place in Russia.

Moreover, some Western media are already writing that, they say, if it is profitable for the Belarusian authorities, they will raise the topic of coronavirus themselves. An interesting movie turns out: does the coronavirus come when it is beneficial to someone? By the way, in Belarus, they still do not require a certificate from foreigners about the absence of coronavirus, and in fact, in the face of massive opposition protests, the president could well have agreed to introduce such a requirement as mandatory.

Of course, a number of Western media did not forget, however, to mention the unsanitary conditions in temporary detention facilities, which could cause an outbreak of coronavirus. But if this is the case, can you postpone the protests? The West prefers not to talk about this. Such pandemic oddities.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 23 September 2020 10: 46
    +1
    The objective indicator is the mortality rate.
    In Sweden it is quite high.
    They also made a decision about "natural" immunization of the population.
    What about this in Belarus is a question.
    And so, the strongest survives.
    Nobody and nothing cancels this.
    By the way.
    Perhaps this also applies to food culture.
    For example, the United States is a massive consumption of fast food.
    In Belarus, the situation is different, as a rule, adequate nutrition and a high level of food quality.
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak 23 September 2020 11: 41
      +4
      Quote: Livonetc
      What about this in Belarus is a question.

      According to Belstat data for UNO, the mortality rate has increased. For example, for June 9263 in 2019 and 13 016 in 2020
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 23 September 2020 15: 23
      +3
      The modern banner of fascism.
      1. baltiksi
        baltiksi 26 September 2020 20: 17
        +1
        And your tricolor from Vlasov in the Second World War, it was normal. ? Now it is the state flag of the Russian Federation. Teach materiel.
        1. vkl.47
          vkl.47 27 September 2020 11: 22
          +4
          Learn the mat part itself. Ignorance. Our flag was long before Vlasov. Remember this.
          1. wecher75
            wecher75 28 September 2020 22: 13
            -1
            BCHB was also before the Nazis ... And the coat of arms even earlier, also teach mate part
  2. Woodman
    Woodman 23 September 2020 10: 50
    -3
    The situation in Belarus makes one think about the very nature of all information hysteria that was inflated during the spring - summer of 2020 around the coronavirus pandemic.
    And then what is the point in this "hysteria"? Yes, and Israel again introduced restrictions ... For no reason, according to the article ...
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 23 September 2020 10: 54
      +9
      Quote: Lesovik
      Yes, and Israel again introduced restrictions ... Without a reason, according to the article ...

      Still, not a single word about Israel was found in the article ... The author is talking about a specific example - Belarus, this country is being discussed.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 23 September 2020 10: 59
        +6
        Quote: Volodin
        Still, not a single word about Israel was found in the article ... The author is talking about a specific example - Belarus

        Well, yes, Israel zhezh on another planet. And Israel, of course, is not a "concrete example", but a kind of abstraction.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 23 September 2020 11: 06
          13
          Quote: Lesovik
          Well, yes, Israel zhezh on another planet. And Israel, of course, is not a "concrete example", but a kind of abstraction.

          That's the point: it's not clear what you want to say with your comment. In my opinion, it just confirms the strangeness of the pandemic, which is mentioned in this material. In Israel, where there were no 100-200 thousand rallies, there is again strict quarantine, and in Belarus, where mass rallies take place regularly, sanitary peace and quiet
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 23 September 2020 11: 11
            0
            Quote: Volodin
            it is not clear what you want to say with your comment

            The opinion of the author is just interesting, well, or not the author, but just someone's adequate opinion on the topic
            Quote: Lesovik
            And then what is the point in this "hysteria"?
            if the virus does not exist or if the danger of the virus is highly overestimated.
            1. Million
              Million 23 September 2020 13: 46
              +7
              And we periodically carry out raids in stores. I went without a mask, a fine of up to 30 thousand.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 26 September 2020 10: 23
                0
                Where are the fines?
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 23 September 2020 14: 33
            19
            Quote: Volodin
            once again confirms the strangeness of the pandemic, which is referred to in this material. In Israel, where there were no 100-200 thousand rallies, there is again strict quarantine, and in Belarus, where mass rallies take place regularly, sanitary peace and quiet

            In Khabarovsk, too, rallies continue, but the silence in the corona section .. really a strange virus.
            1. user1212
              user1212 24 September 2020 04: 48
              +1
              Quote: Svarog
              In Khabarovsk, rallies also continue, but silence is in the crown

              There is no silence. They get sick, get infected and die. 11591 cases, 2196 active, 102 deaths. Everything is like everyone else. There is no big outbreak for the simple reason that the number of rallies (real, not inflated by the media) does not exceed the number of people who find themselves three meters next to you when traveling to work by bus wassat
              And there are much less infections in the open air than, say, in transport or offices.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 24 September 2020 07: 43
                +3
                Apparently there are 2 reasons in Belarus - fresh air and general vaccinations.
                The states, however, did not benefit much from the fresh air.
                The incidence rate at the height of the performances reached 56 a day or more. hi
                1. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 25 September 2020 08: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex777
                  The states, however, did not benefit much from the fresh air.
                  The incidence rate at the height of the performances reached 56 a day or more.

                  In the states, the population is slightly larger than in Belarus
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 08: 16
                +3
                Quote: user1212
                They get sick, get infected and die.
                As in the period of the seasonal flu epidemic, mortality also increases. request
                I'm wondering if we take the data on mortality during the influenza epidemics in the past years, and compare it with mortality now - what will be the result?
                A few words about the widely advertised vaccine against Covid - the age range of vaccination is from 18 to 60 years. Ginzburg personally voiced. The risk group for the incidence of Covid 19 is 60+. Mortality among younger people is scanty. It is also known that vaccination does not protect against disease, but only reduces the risk of complications. That is, the vaccinated person will also be ill, and will also be a distributor.
                Conclusions - it is extremely incomprehensible to anyone who can think logically, why these dances with tambourines around the vaccine, which is recommended for use by the population not included in the risk group, until the end of the third stage of the trial? (Ginsburg personally said that the third stage will be completed in the spring of 21).
                Vaccine - 18-60, risk group 60+.
                What for?????????
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 24 September 2020 08: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  I'm wondering if we take the data on mortality during the influenza epidemics in the past years, and compare it with mortality now - what will be the result?

                  Think about how LESS the incidence and mortality from influenza and other viruses would be if anti-epidemic measures were used during its epidemic, as in Covid.

                  And so, you are comparing the incomparable.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 09: 00
                    0
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Think about it

                    Think about how harmful it is to constantly wear masks, because the level of carbon dioxide during inhalation rises several times. And all this with the extremely dubious protection of the mask from viruses. In addition, during epidemics, it is necessary to be more often in the fresh air, and people were limited to home and work, not counting public transport. hi
                    PS But I asked myself other questions. wink
                  2. Maki Avellevich
                    Maki Avellevich 26 September 2020 09: 17
                    +1
                    in a muzzle all my life I am not going to walk, especially for the danger of touching horses in 0,009%
              3. AML
                AML 24 September 2020 12: 51
                +3
                Exactly. Common flu has a 0.7% mortality rate and 1% for covid. The epidemic is bad. Hand drawn fiction
                1. Mimoprohodil
                  Mimoprohodil 24 September 2020 15: 45
                  0
                  Every year, only a million Russians get the common flu?
                  1. AML
                    AML 24 September 2020 16: 41
                    +1
                    The mortality rate from common flu is 0.7% of the total number of cases.
                    1. BastaKarapuzik And
                      BastaKarapuzik And 25 September 2020 00: 26
                      -1
                      The mortality rate of influenza is much lower, and people are vaccinated, and the vaccine itself is produced on an industrial scale. You can vaccinate at least doctors and a risk group.
                      Covid showed an order of magnitude higher mortality. 4% in many countries, less in Russia, and there was nothing to vaccinate the population massively.
                      1. AML
                        AML 25 September 2020 08: 03
                        0
                        "Of the total number of cases" does not suggest any thoughts?
                    2. Mimoprohodil
                      Mimoprohodil 26 September 2020 09: 34
                      +1
                      I repeat the comment again? Tens of millions get sick with the flu, and the mortality rate from ordinary flu is 0.1%. So according to statistics in the USA.
                2. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 23: 09
                  0
                  Quote: AML
                  Common flu has a 0.7% mortality rate


                  It's a lie.
                  1. AML
                    AML 25 September 2020 07: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    Quote: AML
                    Common flu has a 0.7% mortality rate


                    It's a lie.


                    You do not say.


                    Tens of thousands of people die every year in different countries, mainly children of the first years of life (up to 2 years old) and the elderly (over 60 years old). The mortality rate among persons 5-19 years old is 0,9 per 100 thousand, while among persons over 65 it is 103,5 per 100 thousand of the population [120].

                    However, the medical consequences of influenza are assessed differently in different countries. In the Russian Federation, according to official statistics, in 2003-2008. from 917 to 793 cases of influenza were registered annually, with 3 to 500 people dying a year (form No. 000 "Information on infectious and parasitic diseases"). At the same time, in the USA in 20-53. between 2 and 1989 people died per year, and more than 99% of deaths associated with influenza are in people over 36000 years of age [50000].

                    Such significant differences are explained by the fact that in Russia and the USA they use different criteria for ascertaining death in this disease. In our country, death from influenza is recorded in those cases when the death occurs against the background of a detailed picture of an acute infection. In the United States, the concept of delayed death from influenza or death due to influenza is used. All deaths that are caused by an exacerbation under the influence of influenza infection of the patient's diseases (cardiovascular, respiratory, kidney disease, etc.) are recorded as death from influenza.


                    97. Scholtissek C., von Hoyninger V., Rott R. Genetic relatedness between the new 1977 epidemic strains (H1N1) of influenza and human influenza strains isclated between 1947 and 1957 (H1N1) // Virology.-1978.- No. 89. -P.613-617.

                    120. World Health Organization. Influenza. Fact sheet no. 211. cited 2005 Apr 25. Available from: http: //www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/voll2no01/disc22.htm

                    121. World health Report 2002: Reducing risks, promoting healthy life // Geneva. - 2002.


                    I understand this is difficult, but try - the number of residents and the number of sick people are still different numbers.

                    Again.

                    At the same time, in the USA in 1989-99. between 36000 and 50000 died a year
                    1. Maki Avellevich
                      Maki Avellevich 25 September 2020 08: 55
                      +1
                      you do not know the number of infected (?) with any virus. the real numbers are higher.
                      on etrom your "From the total number of sick" is nothing more than a game of numbers.
                      1. AML
                        AML 25 September 2020 09: 58
                        +2
                        They caught up with the people panic, so he runs for every sneeze to the hospital. With the usual flu - well, flu and flu, a sip of wheels and it will pass. In Ukraine - reports - the number of infected is such and such. The number of tests was doubled and the number of cases increased. All the media are trumpeting about a sharp number of cases, while the percentage between the number of tested and diseased has not changed.

                        What is this if not intimidation of the population and a game of numbers?
                      2. Maki Avellevich
                        Maki Avellevich 25 September 2020 10: 05
                        0
                        We say the same things. %
                  2. The eye of the crying
                    The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 10: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: AML
                    I understand this is difficult, but try - the number of residents and the number of sick people are still different numbers.


                    Quote: AML
                    while among people over 65 years old - 103,5 per 100 thousand population [120].


                    No question ... 103.5 / 100000 == 0.001035 == 0.1%. How about arithmetic? Moreover, this is the mortality rate in the most vulnerable group, the total - less.

                    Quote: AML
                    At the same time, in the USA in 1989-99. between 36000 and 50000 died a year


                    And now 200000 have died in 8 months.
                    1. AML
                      AML 25 September 2020 14: 44
                      -1
                      Again. Not the entire population is sick. And not all those who get sick die. What you calculated 0.1% is the number of inhabitants, not the number of cases.

                      In the United States, 150 people die annually from heroin alone. But even at the airports they do not check for drug addiction and do not take tests.
                    2. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 15: 31
                      -1
                      Quote: AML
                      ... And not all those who get sick die. What you calculated 0.1% is the number of inhabitants, not the number of cases.


                      What I counted is the ratio of the number of deaths to the number of cases. Only I counted correctly, unlike you.

                      Quote: AML
                      In the United States, 150 people die annually from heroin alone. But something even at airports is not tested for drug addiction


                      Because drug addiction is not transmitted by airborne droplets.
                    3. Maki Avellevich
                      Maki Avellevich 26 September 2020 09: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      Because drug addiction is not transmitted by airborne droplets.

                      as opposed to stupidity and ignorance.
                    4. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 26 September 2020 11: 49
                      0
                      They don't even need drops. And air too - enough electromagnetic waves or electric current :)
                3. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 26 September 2020 09: 21
                  0
                  Quote: AML
                  Again. Not the entire population is sick. And not all those who get sick die. What you calculated 0.1% is the number of inhabitants, not the number of cases.

                  that is, if the number of cases is 1 and 1 case died, then the mortality rate is 100% !!! all the end!
                  Is it the end?
                  do not flirt with statistics.

                  the epidemic is measured in terms of the impact on the entire population.
                  the rest is nothing more than the prostitution of science by politicians for their noble purposes.
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 26 September 2020 10: 35
        -1
        I remember in the spring they said that most of this disease goes away without symptoms or in a mild form. Maybe there is a reason for this, too, people are simply not afraid and go to rallies. After all, no one scares them or worries them. It's just that many of them will have their parents and grandparents die later.
        A good way to raise protests and thereby kill a foreign country a little.
      3. blackice
        blackice 28 September 2020 05: 32
        0
        - Doctor, what to write in the column "cause of death"?
        -Write - coronavirus.
        - Doctor, there are 7 knife wounds on the corpse, 3 of which are lethal !!!
        - Write - wounds accompanying death.
        As for the number - in the media just shrunken. In fact, several orders of magnitude more.
    2. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 24 September 2020 12: 17
      +2
      Strange but very comfortable I would say. By the situation.
  3. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 23 September 2020 14: 49
    +5
    Quote: Volodin
    Quote: Lesovik
    Well, yes, Israel zhezh on another planet. And Israel, of course, is not a "concrete example", but a kind of abstraction.

    That's the point: it's not clear what you want to say with your comment. In my opinion, it just confirms the strangeness of the pandemic, which is mentioned in this material. In Israel, where there were no 100-200 thousand rallies, there is again strict quarantine, and in Belarus, where mass rallies take place regularly, sanitary peace and quiet

    In Israel, the average age of a deceased from Covid is 80 years. Nursing homes, from the elite to the provincial ones, are breeding grounds. Children with grandchildren / great-grandchildren visit the elderly at least once a week, the elderly do not have any restrictions on their movement, plus they are served by numerous staff - from cleaning attendants to nurses and social workers. Hence the newly introduced quarantine
    1. aglet
      aglet 24 September 2020 09: 09
      +5
      "In Israel, the average age of a deceased from Covid is 80 years"
      in israel now do not die of old age, only from the virus
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 24 September 2020 09: 19
        -2
        People die of old age at an average of 82,4 years hi
        1. aglet
          aglet 24 September 2020 09: 54
          +3
          and now, who is considered dead from covid - who has this virus found, or who simply died of old age, at 82,4 years? surely everyone has a virus, and if desired, or when setting a task, any deceased can be considered dead from the virus
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 September 2020 10: 06
            -1
            Let's define what “died of old age” is. Oncology, heart attack, stroke, craniocerebral trauma due to falling from a height of his own growth? A person who died from COVID-19 is considered to die due to complications caused by the symptoms of this disease.
            1. aglet
              aglet 24 September 2020 11: 06
              +3
              "what is" died of old age. "
              it means - he died of old age, well, maybe he had some kind of chronic disease.
              "The death of COVID-19 is considered to be a person whose death occurred due to complications caused by the symptoms of this disease."
              What are his symptoms? characteristic, determined only by a virus? under what is now called "symptoms of covid" you can adjust any disease, up to an open fracture, which is used with success by both doctors and statisticians
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 24 September 2020 11: 35
                -1
                In medicine, there is no such definition - the cause of death is old age)).
                The main indicator of Covid is the degree of lung damage - hence the increased need for ventilators. Lung function impairment can cause a number of problems in the body that can lead to death.
              2. aglet
                aglet 24 September 2020 11: 46
                +3
                "The main indicator of Covid is the degree of lung damage - hence the increased need for ventilators"
                and where is she, this increased need for ivl? If at the beginning of this coronavirus everyone was only moaning about these willows, willows, only he can save, ah, we do not have ivls, and we will die, we do not have ivls, they will all save us, then in the process, as it turned out , no one needed these ivl, well, maybe a few, but those who hurried in advance, cut the dough, in this case. Yes, they also treated bulk ivlom, they poisoned him with the virus, poor pots, no luck. and it seems to me that orders of magnitude more people die from tuberculosis and lung cancer than from the virus? and, in addition, there are other, less common lung diseases. why else come up with a virus? who benefits?
              3. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 24 September 2020 12: 03
                -1
                laughing
                If the lungs are affected by more than 50%, mechanical ventilation is necessary. Tuberculosis is not the main disease of the lungs of the population of developed countries - and in undeveloped countries the percentage of cases of COVID is several times lower. In terms of mortality, lung cancer is more dangerous; the five-year survival rate in advanced countries is (Germany) 21%. But - if a wave of elderly people infected with coronavirus is received in hospitals, any healthcare system will simply collapse due to the need to use special rooms for Artificial Lung Ventilation (ALV) with appropriate monitoring of the patient's condition
              4. aglet
                aglet 24 September 2020 12: 13
                +1
                "in case of receiving a wave of elderly people infected with coronavirus"
                and where is it, this wave? where are these old people infected with the virus? who monitors the IVL, if they are not used? and how is it treated with special rooms or special devices? gas exchange takes place in the lungs, whether they are affected or not. IVL devices only simulate breathing if the cerebellum is not working
              5. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 24 September 2020 12: 16
                -1
                Where is this wave? For example, in Israel. In Krasnodar, many COVID patients on mechanical ventilation
              6. aglet
                aglet 24 September 2020 12: 46
                +1
                "In Krasnodar, many COVID patients are on mechanical ventilation"
                many - this is how many? queues for the apparatus, roll-call lists, etc.? can you give a figure? For example, out of 13408 sick people on the edge, there are so many people on the ivl in Krasnodar? and about Israel is not necessary, I am not interested in it at all
              7. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 24 September 2020 13: 53
                -2
                I can ask a doctor working in a specialized institution)))
    2. aglet
      aglet 24 September 2020 11: 48
      0
      "There is no such definition in medicine - the cause of death is old age))"
      and, nevertheless, from it almost everyone dies. no one has lived to be 200 years old, and even up to 100 units survive
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 September 2020 12: 04
      -3
      This is not from old age, but from specific diseases or events that are worse tolerated in old age. ))
    4. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 23: 11
      0
      Not a single person has died of old age. They die of heart attack, cerebral hemorrhage, pneumonia, cancer, covid, but not of old age.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 23 September 2020 15: 21
    0
    Quote: Volodin
    In Israel, where there were no 100-200 thousand rallies, again strict quarantine

    And are you sure about this or just a quick shot?

    In the open air, there is very little infection, mainly in closed, poorly ventilated rooms with a large number of people.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 25 September 2020 09: 52
      0
      How much is there, 100 or 200 thousand?
  • sheet
    sheet 24 September 2020 07: 21
    +1
    In Israel, where there were no 100-200 thousand rallies, there was again a strict quarantine, [/ quote]
    all summer, every weekend, if not one hundred thousandth, but several thousandths, and quarantine was introduced for sure to prevent rallies.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 25 September 2020 14: 02
      0
      Quote: sheet
      and the quarantine was imposed for sure to prevent rallies.

      Or maybe because of this
      Over the past day, about 8000 new infected people have been identified; 61031 people are currently infected
      1405 COVID-19 cases have died.

      С
  • Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 23 September 2020 19: 56
    +2
    Discussion of such questions without concrete statistics is not a discussion. So, the conversations of grandmothers on the bench ...
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 23 September 2020 11: 12
    0
    Quote: Lesovik
    And then what is the point in this "hysteria"? Yes, and Israel again introduced restrictions ... For no reason, according to the article ...

    And in the US, the situation with the coronavirus is NOT as wonderful as Ilya draws, but quite the opposite! And in Belarus, all these massive walks of the reckless will certainly affect.

    So, "think", Ilya, "about this whole INFORMATION pandemic"! And it would be better - before the publication of the article. yes laughing
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 September 2020 10: 50
    +4
    Protests are the best protection against the virus. wink
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 23 September 2020 10: 54
      12
      Protests are the best protection against the virus.

      Yeah ... belay if you don't have a coronavirus, protests will urgently come to you ... there is no democracy, colored revolutionaries will urgently come to you.
      Well what a life has gone what ... wherever you spit everywhere viruses, protests, all kinds of revolutions ... and why people do not live peacefully in this world.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 07
        +4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        if you don't have a coronavirus, protests will urgently come to you ... there is no democracy, colored revolutionaries will urgently come to you.

        Precisely, the logic is iron, colored bugs will crawl.
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 24 September 2020 11: 19
        0
        Living in peace is not profitable for the Fed, business and nothing personal ...
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 23 September 2020 19: 58
      +4
      I have a different explanation :). As popular wisdom says: "Infection does not stick to infection!" :))
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 08: 22
      -1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Protests are the best protection against the virus.

      Or a virus is the best defense against protests! good For the authorities, of course, because all these quarantines allow the authorities to impose restrictions on mass gatherings of people.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 23 September 2020 10: 51
    +5
    Old Man laughed it off, advised him to drink vodka and eat lard, take a steam bath.

    Moonshine is better.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 23 September 2020 11: 03
      +6
      Quote: The same Lech
      Old Man laughed it off, advised him to drink vodka and eat lard, take a steam bath.

      Moonshine is better.

      Healthier from natural products! When in moderation, of course!
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 23 September 2020 11: 34
      +4
      In! It is necessary to take note. Fusel oils for the treatment of viral infections. What the hell is not joking - maybe they will work. You should ask your friend not to throw away the "head" and condensation in a cold trap. True, he drives fruit mash, there the "bouquet" should be worse. I'm not kidding. Our people use the "head" for rubbing against colds. And it helps, sometimes even better than just alcohol. So thanks for the tip; I knew, but somehow did not think. If the Nobel Prize comes up, I'm due smile
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 16
        +1
        Quote: dzvero
        Our people use the "head" for rubbing against colds

        No, I'm in the washer reservoir and for ignition. Drinking is better for rubbing. As for fusel oils, you don't need to be greedy and stop selecting the "body" on time. wink
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 25 September 2020 09: 54
        +2
        The oils break down the lipid membrane of the virus. So you seem to be the point!
        150 and drove off.
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 24 September 2020 04: 32
      0
      But daddy was sick himself? Said --- “They planted a virus on me.” Or something like that.
    4. aglet
      aglet 24 September 2020 09: 13
      +1
      "Moonshine is better."
      I do not argue, but their "Tuteyshaya" also has a good effect on immunity. Batka will not advise bad
  • Darkesstcat
    Darkesstcat 23 September 2020 10: 54
    +1
    They say hospitals are full of sick people. So part of the protesters will mow.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 23: 13
      0
      Outdoor protests. In such conditions, covid spreads poorly.
      1. Darkesstcat
        Darkesstcat 25 September 2020 07: 41
        0
        Well in the crowd there isn't much room for fresh air. Now the percentage of cases has increased dramatically.
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 10: 54
          0
          Quote: Darkesstcat
          Well in the crowd there isn't much room for fresh air.


          Enough. In general, the Belarusian protests are not the first of these - after the American ones, there was no noticeable peak of the disease.

          Quote: Darkesstcat
          Now the percentage of cases has increased dramatically.


          Where, in comparison with what, and where are the numbers?
          1. Darkesstcat
            Darkesstcat 25 September 2020 11: 21
            0
            There are no numbers, just friends say that the entire infectious diseases system is clogged, and additional places for infectious diseases are being altered. In our local case.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 23 September 2020 10: 54
    +5
    Old Man laughed it off, advised him to drink vodka and eat lard, take a steam bath.

    We take vodka, bacon and go to the BATH!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 06
      10
      Quote: rocket757
      We take vodka, bacon and go to the BATH!

      Probably the methods of prevention according to Lukashenka are more realistic than the methods offered by the WHO.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 September 2020 11: 31
        +5
        Let's not spoil our "appetite" with such unpleasant combinations of letters as WHO! It is not for nothing that Donald Fredovich had a tooth for them!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 56
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          It is not for nothing that Donald Fredovich had a tooth for them!

          Yes, this Donik can count money, and he has an eye on all the swindlers.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 23 September 2020 13: 27
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          It is not for nothing that Donald Fredovich had a tooth for them!

          I didn't have a tooth, but put a Russian vegetable.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 September 2020 13: 29
            +1
            Colonel Trumpov can not only put, but also impose ... but the president of the strip should be somehow different!
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 23 September 2020 13: 33
              +3
              Quote: rocket757
              but the président of striping should be somehow different!

              In another way, the identity can ... a super-duper rocket announce, but not show it to anyone and in each statement get confused in the readings about the speed of this product. And now he has elections ... there we will hear enough of something different. And crocodiles will fly and aliens will appear, and McDonald's will open on Mars.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 23 September 2020 13: 38
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                And crocodiles will fly and aliens will appear, and McDonald's will open on Mars.

                Fun this event, however, elections in the strip! This year there are also TWO clown teams and each super duper! At the same time, everything, everything, show !!! wassat
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 24 September 2020 04: 38
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Let's not spoil our "appetite" with such unpleasant combinations of letters as WHO! It is not for nothing that Donald Fredovich had a tooth for them!

          And he refused to pay the dues. That would be ours too
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 September 2020 07: 03
            +2
            Hi Dmitry soldier
            Ours, unfortunately, have not matured to the point where you can no longer show your concerns, but do what you see fit!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 24 September 2020 07: 12
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              Hi Dmitry soldier
              Ours, unfortunately, have not matured to the point where you can no longer show your concerns, but do what you see fit!

              Good day, Victor! hi yes, they express concerns in different ways. However, this is not useful, in my opinion. And over the hill, something funny, I guess? Like, 105th Russian concern. It's a shame.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 24 September 2020 07: 18
                +1
                That is why we run into NSX? He could knock on the international tribune with his fist, his heel ... but he could PRESENT "Kuz'kina's mother" to everyone so that they sagged in their knees, and something unexpected happened for many!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 24 September 2020 07: 24
                  +1
                  NSH. Why? Probably because he started a campaign against Stalin. Abroad, this led to the weakening and splitting of the Communist Parties, which caused enormous damage to the world communist movement. Well, also for his experiences in economics. And the boot? This is so, an episode.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 24 September 2020 08: 37
                    +1
                    Claims can be made to ANYONE! reasonable or not, it's all subjective.
                    One thing is obvious, in confrontation with the West, he knew how to act harshly, on the verge and NOBODY dared to cross this line, across the interests of the Soviet state.
                    Is it bad or in another way ... history has shown that the overreacting collective, individual West does not UNDERSTAND any other way!
                    The West does not want to do it any other way now, but there is SOMETHING to tear off his Wishlist! This is a dangerous situation ...
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 24 September 2020 23: 03
                      +1
                      Peaceful coexistence .... how could they think of this and believe that the opposite side is from the heart. Unclear.
                      Although this happened later.
                      Pss. The bell didn't work request
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 24 September 2020 04: 35
      +1
      It is interesting that when the protests began, the dad was accused of not believing in the virus and talking about the sick
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 23 September 2020 10: 56
    +2
    Well, apparently, father chose the correct line in the spring.
    Herd immunity did happen, and now there is no new outbreak.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 23 September 2020 11: 02
      +4
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Well, apparently, father chose the correct line in the spring.
      Herd immunity did happen, and now there is no new outbreak.

      Minsk now

      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 September 2020 11: 39
        +3
        Quote: Skalendarka
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        Well, apparently, father chose the correct line in the spring.
        Herd immunity did happen, and now there is no new outbreak.

        Minsk now


        Minus???? However!!!!
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 23 September 2020 11: 53
          +9
          Quote: Skalendarka
          Minus???? However!!!!

          Already two minuses. Apparently, one from the liberals: "This is Photoshop - where are the protests of many thousands?"And the second - from the ultrapatriots:"this is photoshop - where is the riot police disperse the miserable heaps of protesters?" smile
        2. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 24 September 2020 07: 02
          0
          Quote: Skalendarka
          Minus???? However!!!!

          After drinks the next morning, Yandex's activity index also shows a minus sign laughing
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 58
        +1
        Quote: Skalendarka
        Minsk now

        What, everyone rushed to Poland and Lithuania, since there was no one?
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 23 September 2020 10: 59
    16
    An interesting movie turns out: does the coronavirus come when it is beneficial to someone?

    The same thoughts come about
    of all the information hysteria that was inflated during the spring - summer of 2020 around the coronavirus pandemic.

    I do not argue, the virus is deadly, but the hysteria around it is too inflated. "Cui prodest" - "who benefits?"
    The stocks of the American and German pharmaceutical giants Pfizer and BioNTech are growing. Amid the rush of demand for essential goods, disinfectants and protection products, sales of companies such as the American manufacturer of disinfecting wipes and cleaning products Clorox have skyrocketed. Some of the main beneficiaries of the coronavirus crisis are who provide video conferencing services, and especially Zoom. Who is the war (pandemic), and who is mother.
  • demo
    demo 23 September 2020 11: 04
    +7
    The head of Roszdravnadzor, Alla Samoilova, confirmed what was said in the kitchens: in Russia there is no exact data on mortality from coronavirus, since every hospital drew them as it pleases. According to reports, in some hospitals, all patients, including victims of road accidents, died allegedly from COVID-19, while in others such deaths were not from the word at all. Ms. Samoilova also confirmed what Katyusha wrote back in May - because of the quarantine, patients with oncology, diabetes and other diseases died without treatment. Moreover, how many such people died and how many of them were recorded for coronavirus, today no one knows at all. As long as there is no answer to the question - for the sake of what the whole country was plunged into the coronavirus, if the statistics were drawn from the ceiling.
    http://katyusha.org/view?id=15099&utm_source=politobzor.net
    Who benefits most from the fact that industry stops and people are left without a livelihood?
    Received by banks that their appetites and requirements, not only have not been canceled, but have not even reduced.
    Consequently, the representatives of world globalism (bankers) are the main beneficiaries.
    Russia, under the leadership of Putin, "took it under its umbrella" and fulfilled all the requirements.
    Lukashenka refused to bend over.
    It's not worth inventing anything.
    There is no special secret.
    Globalists feel calm and act imposingly.

    Let us also recall that the US Congress received a notification that US President Donald Trump has officially withdrawn the state from the membership of the World Health Organization (WHO). New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez announced this on Twitter.
    The senator noted that the decision was made "in the midst of a pandemic," and it is unfair to call Trump's response to the coronavirus chaotic and inconsistent. "It will not protect the lives and interests of Americans, it will only leave them sick and America alone," Menendez wrote.
    According to CNN, citing a State Department official, the United States notified UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres that the decision will take effect on July 6, 2021.

    And Trump is a representative of industrialists. And the latter with the globalists is a war for life and death.
    1. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 23 September 2020 11: 38
      +3
      I spoke with one medical official. He says that as long as doctors are paid for covid, the number of deaths from it will not decrease. Loot-prose of life.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 24 September 2020 11: 21
        +1
        Who benefits from? Interesting information slipped through that before the covid hysteria, American funds suddenly drastically shifted their assets to the pharmaceutical and biological-chemical sectors, although they had not invested much there before, especially since restrictive laws were adopted in the United States several years ago, which greatly affected on these industries and caused an outflow of investment from there. It's strange.
    2. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 23: 15
      0
      Quote: demo
      And Trump is a representative of industrialists.


      He has never been an industrialist and does not represent industrialists.

      Quote: demo
      And the latter with the globalists is a war for life and death.


      Nonsense. Industrialists are globalists. Who do you think brought production from the United States to Mexico and Asia?
      1. demo
        demo 25 September 2020 06: 03
        0
        At the expense of the first remark - this will remain a topic of discussion.
        But at the expense of the second, here you are wrong.
        Naturally, the industry develops by those who understand it.
        But if a plant in the USA (say) has a profit of a conventional million, then the same plant in Mexico or China gives a profit of two.
        Only the owner of the plant has no funds to build a new one. And he goes to the bank for funds.
        And it justifies everything there.
        And the bank gives money under certain conditions.
        And now the important one.
        It is the bank that, according to all existing laws, is the main beneficiary and global recipient of profit in the form of loan interest.
        Not an industrialist, but a bank!
        An industrialist is responsible to the bank for the repayment of borrowed funds with all his property, including that which he has in the United States.
        And what is the bank's risk?
        Loss of interest and loan amount.
        But - this is not his last money!
        Even if something goes wrong, he will compensate for his costs. And the industrialist falls into a hole in debt.
        And all the laws of all countries consider the industrialist as a "scapegoat".
        The role of the industrialist is the role of the cash cow.
        Think at your leisure.

        Bankers are primarily interested in getting in excess of profits.
        They are the ones who build promising investment models.
        For example, Russia.
        How many forums are there?
        And who is mostly on them? Look at the payroll.
        Invest banks!
        How Siemens did not want to expand its production in Russia, but they gave him a hand and that's it.
        Mechanical engineering cannot be developed in Russia.
        Only the extractive industry is oil production, gas production, extraction of useful ore materials.
        But agriculture and mechanical engineering are taboo.
        Assembly production - please. And full-cycle plants are prohibited.
        And who forbade it?
        Money was banned!

        Globalists are the largest financial centers in the world, united in groups.

        Last thing.
        Who does the US government owe all these trillions to?
        Banks of their own country.
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 11: 04
          0
          Quote: demo
          At the expense of the first remark - this will remain a topic of discussion.


          No. These are just two facts.

          Quote: demo
          It is the bank that, according to all existing laws, is the main beneficiary and global recipient of profit in the form of loan interest.
          Not an industrialist, but a bank!


          So what? Banks have been receiving interest on loans since the days when loans were invented. Once again: the decision to transfer the production is made by the production owner. He also gets the profits from the transfer. And it makes no difference to the bank whether production is transferred to Asia or the USA.

          Quote: demo
          How Siemens did not want to expand its production in Russia, but they gave him a hand and that's it.


          You heap up things that don't fit together.
          1. demo
            demo 25 September 2020 12: 49
            0
            You have not quite correctly caught the latter.
            Siemens would like to, but he is forced to do not what is beneficial to him, but what is beneficial to others - those who are above them.

            I am very well aware of the difficulties that any industrialist in China faces.
            First. It is necessary to open a Chinese company. It's not very difficult.
            Second. Find personnel with appropriate training. This is already more difficult.
            Third. Bring money into the country - euros or dollars.
            There is a serious check on the purity of money.
            But then such a ballet begins that mother do not cry.
            Let's assume that 10 million dollars were introduced into the country.
            The product is being produced.
            It must be sold. But you can't sell for dollars. It is possible only for yuan.
            Consequently, a specially authorized bank appears between the manufacturer and the buyer. Who knows who can not convert foreign currency into yuan.
            And the industrialist accumulates a lot of yuan.
            You can convert yuan into dollars or euros, but only with the special permission of the regulator.
            And for specific deliveries of goods.
            Suppose the period for which the production is created (and this is discussed in advance) is 10 years.
            Only after the expiration of this period, the business owner can sell his property.
            But the “first hand” right is the state - China.
            If he is not interested in this production, then it is put up for wide sale, but only for Chinese residents.
            If there is no interest here, then foreigners can buy.
            But the owner can withdraw the profit resulting from the activities of the enterprise by 10% of the total amount per year.
            Those. for another 10 years he will wait for his money.
            But, as always, there is an option.
            The present American banks in Hong Kong can redeem everything at once, with a discount.
            Who goes for such hemorrhoids and who benefits from it?
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 12: 55
              0
              Quote: demo
              Siemens would like to, but he is forced to do not what is beneficial to him, but what is beneficial to others - those who are above them.


              This is called "sanctions". But nobody would interfere with Siemens if he wanted to open an enterprise in China.

              Quote: demo
              I am very well aware of the difficulties that any industrialist in China faces.


              I doubt very much that you know the difficulties that "any industrialist" faces. The rules of the game for large players are probably different. And, judging by where the industries are migrating, all the difficulties of working in China, whatever they may be, more than pay off.
              1. demo
                demo 25 September 2020 13: 06
                0
                The "rules of the game" are the same for everyone.
                At least a million, even a billion dollars.
                This is the advantage.
                You have to - you decide.
                But American banks have been given unprecedented rights and opportunities.
                So it is now clear why Trump is hitting China?
                China is under the globalists.
                However, like Russia.
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 13: 21
                  0
                  Quote: demo
                  The "rules of the game" are the same for everyone.


                  It has never been like this anywhere. As they say, wholesale is cheaper.

                  Quote: demo
                  China is under the globalists.


                  It doesn't matter who China is under - the globalists or the CCP. It was about the fact that industrialists are notorious globalists, and Trump, although a globalist, is never an industrialist and does not express their interests.
                  1. demo
                    demo 25 September 2020 16: 23
                    0
                    Trump is an anti-globalist. Moreover, he is demoniac.
                    The main thing for him is that the production should be in the USA.
                    Not Canada, China, Mexico, etc.
                    You either do not know, or cringe.
                    Remember his first statement about Ford.
                    His friend, the president of the company, decided to close production in Mexico and return it home to the United States.
                    Globalism is the desire to locate production and earn where there are minimum costs and maximum profits.
                    But an industrialist will not go where his home country is not. Where the rules of the game are not known. Or they may change for the worse.
                    Only money can go there.
                    It is easier for money to talk to the authorities.

                    You just need to understand that money and industry in the United States are divorced on opposite sides of the barricades.
                    And all crises in the United States are a crisis of money, not industry.
                    The Great Depression in the United States began with a stock market crash, when shares of leading American companies depreciated.
                    This was a planned action to redistribute property.
                    Up to this point, an industrialist in the United States sounds proudly.
                    And Roosevelt decided to rely on industry to start pulling the country out of the quagmire.
                    Road construction is a successful and effective way to feed the hungry and produce the necessary national product.
                    But the bankers did not give a broken cent to it just like that.
                    The winding up of public debt interest began.
                    And to whom?
                    Banks.
                    But there will always be little room for money. They need expansion.
                    Money is a cancer. And the bankers are metastasis.
                    1. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 16: 40
                      0
                      Quote: demo
                      Trump is an anti-globalist.


                      There is no evidence to think so. And there are facts to consider exactly the opposite (he receives income from the whole world).

                      Quote: demo
                      Moreover, he is demoniac.


                      I would say that he went. But, one way or another, he cannot be an anti-globalist - for this you need at least a sober head and a plan of action.

                      Quote: demo
                      The main thing for him is that the production should be in the USA.
                      Not Canada, China, Mexico, etc.


                      He, in general, does not care. His personal income does not depend on this.

                      Quote: demo
                      Remember his first statement about Ford.
                      His friend, the president of the company, decided to close production in Mexico and return it home to the United States.


                      I remember his campaign speech at the Carrier plant. As he promised that the plant will remain in America. But at the same time they laid off half of the workers in the same year, a year later - half of the rest. And the departure of production to Asia continues. And Trump is an incompetent yap who doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself.
                      1. demo
                        demo 25 September 2020 17: 45
                        0
                        Then it's easier, without speculation.
                        The classic representatives of the clan of globalists are the Clintons, Barack Obama, Biden.
                        They do not hide their commitment to this sect.
                        It was these sextants who organized the investigation of Trump's possible connection with Russia, and the participation of the latter in his victory.
                        Rave? Sure.
                        But a special prosecutor was appointed - Müller, who dug right down to the roots.
                        To organize such a company, and even to bring the voting procedure to the Congress - what opportunities do you need to have?

                        Can a raven peck out a crow's eye?
                        So Trump is from the hostile camp.
                      2. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 17: 51
                        0
                        Quote: demo
                        Then it's easier, without speculation.


                        Without conjectures - this is with facts. You are not giving any facts. I don't think you have them.

                        Quote: demo
                        The classic representatives of the clan of globalists are the Clintons, Barack Obama, Biden.


                        You named the presidents from the Democratic Party. And if you look at reality, Reagan and both Bush are the same globalists, the Migration of Production began under Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. did nothing to stop it.

                        Quote: demo
                        The sextants organized an investigation of Trump's possible connection with Russia, and the participation of the latter in his victory.
                        Rave? Sure.


                        You, of course, have not heard how in one campaign speech Trump directly turned to Russia for help to dig up dirt on Clinton (as I said, Trump is a traveler). You, of course, do not know that in a day or two the servers of the Democratic Party were hacked and documents were stolen. Of course, with such ignorance, Trump's accusations may seem like nonsense. But even you should remember the frank joy of Russian propagandists and politicians at Trump's election.

                        Quote: demo
                        So Trump is from the hostile camp.


                        Trump is from his own camp. And the fact that he rides Republicans does not make him an anti-globalist.
                      3. demo
                        demo 25 September 2020 18: 44
                        0
                        Too lazy to dig for a long time and peck on the grain.
                        Read this, please.
                        "Calling countries to protect their own national interests, Donald Trump continued in his speech to the General Assembly:

                        “The free world must remember its national foundations. He should not seek to erase them or replace them. If you strive for freedom, start being proud of your country; if you strive for democracy, hold on to your sovereignty. "

                        Addressing not so much world leaders as to his internal audience, he assured that “the days are over in America” when “under the influence of globalism, which has become a new religion, the country's leadership ignored its own national interests,” and promised to fight the “faceless bureaucracy ”,“ the media and academia ”that“ threaten our history, traditions and values ​​”.

                        Is this the speech of the one who supports globalism or is it the speech of the enemy?
                        Without conjectures - this is with facts. You are not giving any facts. I don't think you have them.
                        Do you think the personal statements of Clinton and Biden will be enough?
                        If yes, then I will now order that no later than 9.00 am New York time they arrive at our Consulate General and write a confession with their own hand hi
                      4. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 19: 06
                        0
                        Quote: demo
                        "Calling countries to protect their own national interests, Donald Trump continued in his speech to the General Assembly:


                        This is idle chatter.

                        Quote: demo
                        Do you think the personal statements of Clinton and Biden will be enough?


                        Statements about what - that they are globalists? Let's. Although I don't really argue with that. For some reason you enroll in the globalists Clinton, Obamts and Biden, but not the Bush and Trump. And this is just strange - both Bushy (both) and Trump in this regard differ from Clinton and Obama in about nothing. Trump's chatter does not count - it is just that idle chatter.
                      5. demo
                        demo 25 September 2020 20: 45
                        0
                        If the words of the candidate for the primaries are idle chatter, if his words at the UN General Assembly are idle talk, then I don’t understand something in life.
                        And here and there, even for this Narcissus, you have to think what you are talking about.
                        He has so with everyone with whom it is possible and with whom the relationship is ruined.
                        Even chatter, in your words, has a certain electorate.
                        For the sake of two or three percent of voters, Trump would not have thought of throwing such dangerous statements.
                        So he chatted what he needed for a certain, fairly significant part of his supporters.
                        And not even for a simple John Smith, from Idaho, but for those who are the backbone of the United States - industrialists.
                        Well, certainly not for bankers and globalists.
                      6. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 20: 50
                        0
                        Quote: demo
                        If the words of the candidate for the primaries are idle chatter, if his words at the UN General Assembly are idle talk, then I don’t understand something in life.


                        You just don't follow the events.

                        Quote: demo
                        Even chatter, in your words, has a certain electorate.


                        Oh yeah. And everything is interesting there - it seems that Trump's voters have enough _only_ his chatter, while he chatters what they want to hear. You don't have to do anything (although, in fairness, the old Republican establishment is doing something).

                        Quote: demo
                        For the sake of two or three percent of voters, Trump would not have thought of throwing such dangerous statements.


                        He throws them constantly. As they say, reality distortion field. This is a well-thought-out tactic or just a lucky traveler - HZ. This is a long and complex topic.
                      7. demo
                        demo 25 September 2020 21: 20
                        0
                        Be that as it may, during his first year, the president managed to make a number of important decisions that will affect the development of the US economy for many years to come:

                        Donald Trump's tax reform
                        - withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which implies a complete abolition of customs duties on goods and services in the Asia-Pacific region;
                        -conducting negotiations on amendments to the Agreement on the North American Free Trade Area (NAFTA);
                        - resumption of construction of oil pipelines from Canada - Dakota Access Pipeline and Keystone XL;
                        - the conclusion of agreements between Chinese and American companies in the amount of $ 250 billion and the optimization of trade and economic contacts with Beijing during Trump's "historic" visit to China;
                        - abolition of restrictions on the extraction of coal, as well as oil and gas by hydraulic fracturing (fracking);
                        -carrying out the largest tax reform since the time of Ronald Reagan, one of the goals of which is to return to the US $ 4 trillion stored in offshore areas due to high tax rates;
                        - the abolition of more than a thousand restrictive norms (reducing government regulation, according to Trump, helps economic growth and job creation).

                        Where do we take this?
                      8. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 21: 39
                        0
                        We will attribute all this either to easy things that even an incompetent chatterbox can handle (refusal to sign the TPP - there was no need to leave it), or to the activities of the old establishment (taxes).

                        Quote: demo
                        negotiating amendments to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA);


                        New agreements were concluded, without major changes compared to the old ones. Here, no fight against holobalism can even be pulled by the ears.

                        Quote: demo
                        lifting restrictions on coal mining


                        This is the funniest thing. The US coal industry began to collapse before Trump, and almost collapsed under him.

                        Quote: demo
                        conclusion of agreements between Chinese and American companies in the amount of $ 250 billion


                        First, it is a penny; secondly, it does not contribute to the return of the industry.

                        Keystone, fracking, regulation rollback - these are all PR moves. All this can be canceled by presidential decrees, and just as easily returned. Keystone is generally cool, these are the Kohi brothers, who have been paying respams for decades.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 04
    +7
    In the end, it turns out, "Grigorich" was right: so much time has passed, and there is no evidence in favor of the catastrophic epidemiological situation in Belarus.

    Even surprisingly, there are such crowds of people, but there is no pandemic. What is the question here, and why?
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 23 September 2020 11: 09
    +3
    Yes, it has long been clear that it would be more correct to use the definition of "coronavirus" instead of "coronavirus".
    Only the purpose of this artificially inflated wave of panic, which caused enormous economic damage, is little understood.
  • Moss
    Moss 23 September 2020 11: 13
    +3
    Does the author have statistics from Minsk hospitals? Not? Doesn't he hear about overcrowded hospitals? Where did he listen? And who will tell him the truth ...
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    2. lucul
      lucul 23 September 2020 11: 28
      +3
      Does the author have statistics from Minsk hospitals? Not? Doesn't he hear about overcrowded hospitals?

      Something I don't see and don't hear anything about the overcrowding of Minsk hospitals.
      And I remember at Belsat how they were hysterical about Lukashenka's Victory Day parade on May 9th. They voted loudly that as a result of the parade, there will be millions of people infected with COVID-19, and the death toll will go to tens of thousands. I argued with many opps then about this, it stuck in my memory))))
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 September 2020 11: 37
        -9
        Quote: lucul
        Does the author have statistics from Minsk hospitals? Not? Doesn't he hear about overcrowded hospitals?

        Something I don't see and don't hear anything about the overcrowding of Minsk hospitals.
        And I remember at Belsat how they were hysterical about Lukashenka's Victory Day parade on May 9th. They voted loudly that as a result of the parade, there will be millions of people infected with COVID-19, and the death toll will go to tens of thousands. I argued with many opps then about this, it stuck in my memory))))

        I remember how Russian citizens were happy at VO that all Belarusians, after the parade on May 9, would glue their flippers ...
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 23 September 2020 15: 29
          -1
          But, but, a couple of Putin's idiots are not all Russian citizens. Your parade was like a sickle for Faberge, because their leader piled in his pants and sat behind a high fence. So sycophants were malignant, and most of Russian citizens supported the PARADE IN BELARUS!
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 23 September 2020 11: 19
    +2
    This question seems to arise for many. Here are Minsk, Khabarovsk and other parts of the world.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 September 2020 11: 30
    +1
    Quote: Moss
    Does the author have statistics from Minsk hospitals? Not? Doesn't he hear about overcrowded hospitals? Where did he listen? And who will tell him the truth ...

    Right. Nobody believes official information, there is simply no other.
    There are problems all over the world, since the beginning of the month the number of cases of coronavirus in Russia has slowly started to grow again, but Batski is calm and quiet!
    [media = https: //youtu.be/BOFjE-7LnaU]
    [media = https: //youtu.be/AHIzMMcqMT0]
  • g_ae
    g_ae 23 September 2020 11: 32
    +6
    I remember very well how doctors' appeals were printed every day on the Tutbai. ! The cemeteries are failing! " And all this day after day, day after day. A colossal blow to the brains. Plus a lot of channels like "Country for Life" by Tikhanovsky. And how many enthusiasm there was over the personnel from India, when the militia drove people into quarantine with truncheons. "This is how the authorities take care of the population in normal countries. Not like ours." But now doctors are protesting against violence. They are showing off again on YouTube. And the fact that crowds walk the streets and spread the infection - do not care. Infection does not stick to infection. The main thing is that the political orientation is correct. I always knew that a doctor is a cynical profession, but so much so. I'm shocked. Tfu ... individuals of easy social behavior. Either remove the cross, or ...
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 23 September 2020 11: 48
      +8
      Oh, I remembered. In large letters on the tutbai that the video blogger who attended the May 9 parade in Minsk fell ill with the coronavirus. It turns out below that after Minsk he has not been anywhere, but before the illness he was in Serbia. But the headline as if it was picked up in Minsk. Here ...
  • avdkrd
    avdkrd 23 September 2020 11: 39
    +8
    The story of the coronavirus is a powerful informational project that has nothing to do with epidemiology. Statistics show that there is no surge in mortality compared to previous periods. The question of counting is when all suitable cases are recorded in the crown sacrifices. These facts were in the West and here. The only mystery is who and how directed this performance. The version with an attempt to introduce compulsory medicine (compulsory vaccination) is quite viable, especially since there were hearings in the ASP and the prosecutor general made a decision on this issue (negative). The mechanism of acceptance of the conditions of the game by the rest of the world (including Russia) is not clear. If we ignore the information noise about the pandemic, we can see that, for example, China has introduced an electronic control system, with social ratings (according to Orwell), we also tested a system of total control over movements, with violation of constitutional rights. Of course, the coronavirus is a fact and the mortality rate from it is a fraction of a percent higher than from the flu, but all the hysteria around it is nothing more than a convenient excuse for the introduction of unpopular social technologies.
    I do not impose my opinion on anyone. Perhaps there is some other component of this action, for example, the development of biological warfare, then the actions of the governments acquire a different meaning, but so far Lukashenka and Sweden are the standard of adequacy.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 23 September 2020 11: 42
      0
      And we have CORONATION ...
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 September 2020 11: 51
        -3
        Quote: Skalendarka
        And we have CORONATION ...

    2. Saxahorse
      Saxahorse 23 September 2020 22: 16
      0
      Quote: avdkrd
      The story of the coronavirus is a powerful informational project that has nothing to do with epidemiology. Statistics show that there is no surge in mortality compared to previous periods.

      He lies and doesn't blush .. Another Trump fan? Say, your crown is nonsense, no need to pay attention .. Already over 200 thousand Americans died, but he did not notice the problem.

      And the statistics say a lot of bad things:
      On September 4, Rosstat published data on deaths from coronavirus in the country. According to his calculations, from April to July inclusive, 37 Russians died with COVID-908

      According to Rosstat data for seven months of 2020, 57 more people died in Russia than in the same period last year. 961 thousand died from COVID-22,6, 19 thousand have a different cause of death, however, a new coronavirus infection was confirmed in the diagnosis. At the same time, in 15,3 thousand people, the coronavirus "significantly influenced the development of fatal complications."


      But from whom an example should be taken, it is not from Trump but from China. They have not had a single deceased since May. They suffered for a month in a deep quarantine and they no longer have an epidemic. And the economy has long been in the black, unlike the supposedly "developed" countries of the world.
      1. aglet
        aglet 24 September 2020 09: 26
        +1
        "On September 4, Rosstat published data on mortality from coronavirus in the country"
        Well, how can Rosstat not provide such figures? after all, if you write the truth, the leader will be immediately replaced, and a new calculation method will be immediately invented. there were precedents. so there is no more faith in Rosstat than in OBG agency
  • svoit
    svoit 23 September 2020 11: 51
    0
    There is a heavenly hundred here, if they die from covid, they will say that they died for freedom, but is there anything more desirable than dying for freedom? I don't remember where, but there was an inscription on the corpse "free at last"
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 23 September 2020 11: 59
      0
      Of course I have. To devour and drink at the commemoration of those who "died for freedom" (in a figurative sense, of course. That is, to have a gesheft.) But about that s-s. The sacrificial ram is not supposed to know this.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 23 September 2020 11: 54
    +2
    The strangeness with the pandemic is not only in Belarus. There are no less oddities in Russia. Statistics is such a thing, as it should, and draw.
  • BAI
    BAI 23 September 2020 12: 06
    0
    Nervous stress, adrenaline - prevent the development of any disease. Father recalled that when they fought in the floodplains of the Bug - 2 weeks knee-deep in water mixed with snow and ice, no fires - there were no colds! Probably, the picture is the same here.
    And in general - protests in Belarus is a fashion, as in Ingushetia it was fashionable among young people to oppose tsarism. All and sundry went to revolutionaries.
  • ioan-e
    ioan-e 23 September 2020 12: 25
    +6
    Here you look at the photo of these "girls" and in your head only one thought is born - stupid heifers! They would be at the beginning of 90 with their smirks, when the salary was delayed for six months, they baked bread and in winter they ate what they grew in the garden in the summer! Got drunk, there is nothing to compare! Movement they lack mln!
  • Humpty
    Humpty 23 September 2020 12: 53
    +1
    To me, many commentators for the article somewhat remind the protesters in the photo. What makes it possible to build your own, far from reality, versions on the topic raised? The only thing that comes to mind is that Belarus and Russia also managed to prevent the destruction of healthcare. One way or another, most have not heard about how they get sick for 2-3 months, or half of the family dies out, how they mow down healthy men, and survive with some serious diseases. Be healthy.
  • NF68
    NF68 23 September 2020 16: 12
    0
    Is the coronavirus not working against protesters against Lukashenka?
  • karpusha
    karpusha 23 September 2020 16: 33
    -5
    I would like to know the opinion of people about today's secret inauguration of Lukashenka. What kind of support is 80% such that the ceremony is held secretly from their people in the strictest secrecy? And again the law was violated. by law, the inauguration ceremony must be broadcast on radio and television. But nothing was broadcast. Is this 80% support? FUNNY!
    1. Motorist
      Motorist 23 September 2020 22: 17
      +4
      Today 6 times the same text - is your hand tired of creaking with a pen?
      1. karpusha
        karpusha 23 September 2020 23: 13
        -2
        I just didn't get a single answer. Here everyone was so drowned for dad and his nationwide love. Where are his people? President of the riot police.
        1. Motorist
          Motorist 23 September 2020 23: 24
          +4
          Quote: karpusha
          I just didn't get a single answer

          Judging by the timing, you flooded without reading any articles or comments. What reply to flood You wanted? Well, I answered - has it become easier?
          1. karpusha
            karpusha 23 September 2020 23: 56
            -3
            I would like to hear a reasoned answer from people who believe in the nationwide support for Lukashenka. They used to shout about it in every topic. Today, something is not visible to them.
            1. Motorist
              Motorist 24 September 2020 00: 08
              +4
              You pretend not to understand. I'll chew:

              1. Without reading the comments, you will never know the opinion of people (you asked the opinion - maybe it was there?).
              2. Flood is not welcome and is even punishable by VO (read the rules).
              3. A joke about a man in the forest (OU! Shouted) and you know the bear? So I heard you - is it easier now?
              1. karpusha
                karpusha 24 September 2020 00: 41
                -3
                I didn't expect anything more from you.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 24 September 2020 08: 56
    0
    The protests themselves are too small. Here in the United States, the surge in connection with the riots is powerful, but everyone did not care.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 24 September 2020 10: 04
    0
    No infection takes this oppositional infection! ))) They are so toxic that even the coronavirus decided not to contact them.
  • rtutaloe
    rtutaloe 25 September 2020 12: 16
    0
    To be honest, this idea came to my mind in the very first days, when I learned about the protests. In theory, all the protesters should have died of covid themselves long ago. But something seems to be the "wrong" covid in Belarus, and he makes the wrong disease with the wrong death. More precisely, no deaths at all. ))) How they are not taken by this "plague of the 21st century", why they do not walk with rows of coffins - I do not understand. )
  • datura23
    datura23 25 September 2020 15: 45
    0
    Polonsky drowns for Poland, why is it not surprising
  • AML
    AML 25 September 2020 16: 05
    0
    Quote: Eye of the Crying


    What I counted is the ratio of the number of deaths to the number of cases. Only I counted correctly, unlike you.


    Yes Yes.
    103,5 per 100 thousand population



    Quote: Eye of the Crying

    Quote: AML
    In the United States, 150 people die annually from heroin alone. But something even at airports is not tested for drug addiction


    Because drug addiction is not transmitted by airborne droplets.


    Aaa, that is, from this, people will lie smoother in the coffins?
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 25 September 2020 21: 03
      0
      Quote: AML

      Quote: Eye of the Crying

      Because drug addiction is not transmitted by airborne droplets.



      Aaa, that is, from this, people will lie smoother in the coffins?


      From the fact that drug addiction is not transmitted by airborne droplets? No, they will not do.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 28 September 2020 10: 11
    0
    This color infection, drugged by the West, does not even take the coronavirus!
    Zombies are not people, they are human-functions until they fulfill the program that is protected in them by all sorts of Internet channels, they are all according to fig.
    But on the other hand, they howl about violence against themselves, because there is nothing else to stir up the electorate with!
    They ask themselves, they themselves rake and then they themselves shout, involving even more immature citizens in this scam. I would compare them to thimblers from the 90s .. The technology is the same, to involve more simple-minded young people and get a gesheft.