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Obedience to Washington or affordable gas: Germany's choice for SP-2

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In Germany, they continue to discuss the prospects for launching the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. What awaits the FRG, Europe and Russia if Berlin nevertheless abandons the project? Review of recent comments and News.


Refusal from SP-2 is a serious blow to the German economy


Recently it became known that Friedrich Merz, who is considered the likely successor of Angela Merkel as Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, announced the possibility of introducing a two-year moratorium on the construction of the gas pipeline. The politician stressed that Germany should not be overly dependent on either American or Russian gas.

At the same time, Merz considered it important to complete the construction of the gas pipeline. Apparently, he needed the words about the moratorium in order to somewhat reassure the United States and the pro-American lobby in the FRG itself, which are now making every possible effort to prevent the construction and launch of the gas pipeline. Now the opponents of SP-2 have a new argument - a gamble with Alexei Navalny.

If Germany nevertheless decides to abandon the SP-2, this will be a very serious blow to the European economy. Firstly, significant resources and investments have already been spent on the construction of the gas pipeline, and many European companies are eagerly awaiting its launch.

Secondly, it will not be possible to cover the needs of the German economy in gas, whereas thanks to the SP-2 it could be done simply and cheaply. Hence follows the third result - Germany will be forced to cover these needs by purchasing LNG from the United States, and this is a more expensive gas and its supply depends on the terminal infrastructure and in any case will be much more limited than through the gas pipeline.

US pressure will rise


Naturally, the refusal to build the SP-2 is in no way profitable for the German population or German business. There are, of course, politicians and journalists working for the United States lobbying for the closure of the project, there are short-sighted and too emotional people who believe dubious stories like the poisoning of the Skripals or Navalny, but the sane part of German society is well aware of all the consequences of refusing SP-2. That is why Chancellor Angela Merkel, with the difficult relations between Germany and the EU with Russia, insists on completing the construction of the gas pipeline and emphasizes that no events around Navalny should affect the construction.


More independent figures, such as Bundestag deputy Waldemar Gerdt, generally argue that if Germany abandons the SP-2, it will block itself and demonstrate complete obedience to Washington. However, now on the scales is the availability of Russian gas, coupled with the energy security of Germany, and the threats from the United States, which constantly put pressure on Berlin. And this pressure, of course, will grow the stronger, the closer the completion of the gas pipeline is. Angela Merkel is holding on so far, but will the person who will soon replace her as Federal Chancellor be so firm?

By the way, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the creation of a coalition in Europe, which should prevent the construction and launch of Nord Stream 2. Obviously, the prospect of putting a new gas pipeline into operation scares Washington so much that it decided to connect all its European satellites to block the project at the EU level. Now, perhaps, Poland, the Baltic republics, and a number of other Eastern European states will be forced to demonstrate in every possible way their disagreement with the position of the FRG, despite the fact that it is Berlin, and Warsaw and, moreover, Vilnius and Riga, that is the key organizer and sponsor of the European Union.

Meanwhile, the International Group of P&I Clubs, which insures 90% of commercial ships in the world, decided not to provide insurance coverage to the ships of those companies involved in the construction of Nord Stream 2. The group of clubs does not hide: this decision was made due to the threat of sanctions, which the United States promises against all structures involved in the construction. And this is further evidence of the leverage the United States is using in the fight against the gas pipeline.
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  1. Temples
    Temples 23 September 2020 08: 53
    +3
    Is there a man in charge in Germany?

    Perhaps he will even have a Faberge.

    With the grandmother, no business.
    Other people make decisions.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 23 September 2020 09: 03
      15
      Quote: Temples
      Is there a man in charge in Germany?

      Man? Who immediately made it clear that for him the opinion of the Americans is more important than the economy of his country?
      Of these two, the man is Merkel.
      1. Temples
        Temples 23 September 2020 09: 18
        0
        Quote: Bad_gr
        Of these two, the man is Merkel.

        With which I congratulate the Fritzes. love

        Maybe it serves them right.
        They (the Fritzes) somehow became like the Poles in politics.

        Some kind of plasticine.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 September 2020 09: 21
        +4
        Quote: Bad_gr
        Of these two, the man is Merkel.

        Merkel herself, with her own hands, lowered her status to the height of the plinth, raising Navalny's status to the main counterpart of Putin and meeting him almost as an equal. What is there to talk about? More and more European kings are concerned with internal problems, and not with what the evil Putin is up to. And they make these attacks towards the Russian Federation after Washington kicks.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 23 September 2020 10: 11
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Merkel herself, with her own hands, lowered her status to the height of the plinth, raising Navalny's status to the main counterpart of Putin

          And, you know, that could be good. Only Navalny's card will need to be played correctly. For example: Gather his family members and diagnose them with a coronavirus, and then "invite" them to quarantine in a nomenclature guarded medical institution. Inform Alexey about the seriousness of the problem. Politely and unobtrusively suggest to him that in such a difficult hour of trial he should be close to his family, tk. health is very bad there and may become even worse. Further, the condition of recovery is to designate his public speech with a statement that he was poisoned by evil FSB officers, and his colleagues in the opposition / shawarma sellers / women with low social responsibility / opponents of traditional family values, etc. And let him publicly, with a bouquet of flowers at his feet, bow to our doctors, who pulled his ass out of a party at Lucifer. I think that everybody, including Trump and Merkel, will become crazy with such a presentation.
          1. Temples
            Temples 23 September 2020 10: 56
            -2
            Quote: Polite Elk
            Only Navalny's card will need to be played correctly.

            Map?

            This is not a map. It's not even dust.
            This is an empty sound.
            Zero.

            Vanguard map.
            Base in Syria - map
            Satellite cosmos 2543 - map

            This Blocher is not a map.
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 23 September 2020 11: 12
              -1
              Quote: Temples
              This Blocher is not a map.

              For those p-owls who bet on him, the card. For us, this is, although 6, but you can find a place in the layout. In the game for SP-2 - it is definitely necessary. Moreover, this does not interfere with Avangard, the base in Syria, etc.
      3. Same lech
        Same lech 23 September 2020 09: 41
        -2
        In Germany, there are no normal men left for a long time ... instead of them there is It (something amorphous) ... which is afraid to say a word against the community of European perverts.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 September 2020 09: 04
      +5
      Quote: Temples
      Is there a man in charge in Germany?
      Perhaps he will even have a Faberge.

      And the sense from his "Faberge" - as from the "Faberge" of the organizer of the gay pride parade.
      The politician stressed that Germany should not be overly dependent on either American or Russian gas.
      In fact, they will sit down on American expensive gas, because Germany (and not only it) will be independent from America or Russia in terms of gas only when it completely stops consuming gas. Before America, it will be even more erotic to cave in than "grandma" has already begun. It is only worth reading and listening to what he ALREADY had time to say about Russia.
    3. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 23 September 2020 09: 07
      +1
      Having achieved the closure of the SP-2, the United States will take up the Turkish Stream, and then close the Ukrainian gas system! And then they will get to the Russian liquefied gas, banning EU countries from buying it. Then Europe will howl! But it will be too late - Russia will redirect its gas to the East (do you think why Russia is going to build Power of Siberia-2?). So, gentlemen, Europeans, think and decide who you are to be with: Russia or the United States! yes
    4. hrych
      hrych 23 September 2020 09: 13
      +8
      The grandma is just with the testicles, she stands her ground. And so, of course, sending Navalny to Germany is stupidity and all the subsequent provocation was traced. Moreover, his condition was stabilized. As a last resort, it was necessary to send him to Britain, there he would at least be banged wassat In general, the disappointment of the West in the indifferent reaction of Russian citizens to the poisoning of the "Conscience of the Nation" was voiced. In righteous anger, the indignant people in a single impulse did not dare tyranny wassat
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 23 September 2020 09: 26
        -2
        What awaits the FRG, Europe and Russia if Berlin nevertheless abandons the project?
        in Germany and Europe nothing will change, it will be as it is now without the SP-2, and with "us" just a little bit, the yachts will not become larger and longer.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 23 September 2020 09: 36
          -5
          He also did not understand from what brooms the author decided that the unfinished JV2 would hit the German economy. And before that, how did you live?
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 23 September 2020 09: 44
            -1
            I did not understand from what brooms the author decided that the unfinished JV2 would hit the German economy.

            The final product or service will be more expensive due to higher prices for energy resources purchased from the United States.
            On the other hand, it will be even better for us ... German goods will rise in price, their competitiveness will fall ... and the same gas will be bought from us and the United States will then steam it to Germany as their own ... experienced Americans are scammers.
        2. hrych
          hrych 23 September 2020 09: 37
          0
          Not tired of slogans? Yachts, yachts ... And nothing that Boreas with Ash is longer and longer wassat Under the SP-2, German companies are already finishing the construction of the Eugal onshore gas pipeline from Greifswald to the Central European Gas Hub in Baumgarten. Fru Merkel has relatives and lesbian friends attached to these companies and a retirement honorable job with a small block of shares wassat Now they listened to Mike Pompeo, but he is a beggar in comparison with her, like Biden wassatand Merz crows to divert eyes laughing
          1. Revival
            Revival 23 September 2020 09: 46
            +1
            And that the yachts have disappeared?
            1. hrych
              hrych 23 September 2020 09: 49
              -3
              I'm not interested in this. I'm worried about Poseidon and does Peresvet have YASUlaughing Deal with Biden's corruption as well.
              1. Revival
                Revival 23 September 2020 11: 36
                +2
                Well then it's clear ...
                And I am not interested in Biden, I do not live in the USA
                1. hrych
                  hrych 23 September 2020 18: 15
                  -1
                  Biden is closer than you think. He built left-wing commercial schemes in Ukraine and is one of the beneficiaries of the punitive war in Donbass. RF 4 million population of LDNR supports and spends considerable funds from the budget. This certainly reflects on you personally. We must pay tribute to Trump, but it is with the Russian Federation that there is no deterioration in relations. Biden will come, or rather, that hysterical woman who will lead the country after the death of a senile old man and you or your loved ones may have to fight, or may die.
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 23 September 2020 10: 56
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          will get bigger and longer yachts.

          And again age, having lost wisdom along the way, appears alone. yes
          1. Revival
            Revival 23 September 2020 12: 50
            +1
            Sad for you, but hold on ...
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 23 September 2020 09: 44
      +4
      Half of Russia lives in our country without "available gas", but no one is hysterical about this. Well, where is the thesis - the interests of the state above all? It seems that our people are in the interests of the state, in fact, somehow not in the format of our own state.
    6. Civil
      Civil 23 September 2020 09: 52
      -1
      What is more profitable is what they will choose,
    7. Runoway
      Runoway 23 September 2020 12: 59
      0
      Perhaps he will even have a Faberge.

      It's not about the eggs! Here we need a person for whom the interests of the nation will be more important than personal threats. Charles de Gaulle for example
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 23 September 2020 14: 54
        0
        And how long will this last, if we assume the impossible, what will be found?
        1. Runoway
          Runoway 23 September 2020 15: 16
          +1
          I said, as de Gaulle, returned the French gold to his homeland and was overthrown. I think he knew the consequences, but a huge deal for the people was more important to him than a warm place
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 23 September 2020 19: 45
            -1
            Well, to heat the unfortunate Germans with Russian gas and immediately fall under the ax of the Freemasons, such among the gayropean politicians have not been there for a long time. And too small. Gold reserves bring back this scale.
  2. Roman13579
    Roman13579 23 September 2020 08: 54
    -4
    Obviously, the prospect of putting a new gas pipeline into operation scares Washington so much that it decided to connect all its European satellites to block the project at the EU level.


    "satellites" themselves do not need this gas pipeline .. they do not need to be connected especially for this ..
  3. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 23 September 2020 08: 54
    14
    However, now on the scales is the availability of Russian gas, coupled with the energy security of Germany, and the threats from the United States, which constantly put pressure on Berlin.

    Here, the Germans will not be able to eat a fish, and the Germans will not be able to sit on the pipe, they will have to choose ... Let's see what they choose - energy independence or dependence on the hegemon ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 September 2020 09: 07
      11
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      Let's see what they choose - energy independence or dependence on the hegemon ...

      And there is nothing to guess - "Kamasutra" with a hegemon. And at the same time, in a lost breath, they will talk about their independence.
  4. antivirus
    antivirus 23 September 2020 09: 06
    +1
    besides Siemens, someone else will have to be kicked out of Russia.
    If such a booze has gone, cut the last cucumber.
    SP2 does not affect the salaries of employees and pensions. only on the country's reserves (they are not spent on development - they only save up, avaricious knights) and personal wallets of the "owners"
  5. Galleon
    Galleon 23 September 2020 09: 08
    +6
    The title of the article incorrectly defines the choice of the German elite: obedience is not the goal, the chancellor's act is based on something. If, on the one hand, there is plenty of gas for the development of the economy, then on the other hand, there are threats from those who have power over that German elite, and above all economic power. Apparently, overseas people can squeeze the activities of German business in the United States, they can bring down the political careers of the opposite Germans, and some, like Strauss-Kahn, can be ruined and disgraced. It's not as simple as the title suggests, but the leverage is hidden. One thing is certain - Americans will not give out buns and loans for their loyalty to their Atlantic neighbor. bully
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 23 September 2020 09: 13
    +3
    The burghers will jump, they will fill the pipe with nothing ...
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 23 September 2020 09: 15
    +6
    The fact is that Germany has no choice at all. If the Americans push it through SP2 once, then there will be no further questions at all. The surrender of its position will entail dependence of the country as a whole, and this is exactly what the Americans are trying to achieve.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 23 September 2020 09: 33
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      The fact is that Germany has no choice at all

      There is always a choice! Another thing is that the consequences of this very choice may not suit wink Therefore, either to take a firm position, or to take an uncomfortable position is the business of Germany itself. request
      Only death does not give a choice - and that's it. And in all other cases of life, there is always a choice ...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 September 2020 09: 52
      +2
      I don't quite understand. Why did the Svidomye cut off the water in Crimea, but we cannot cut off the gas to them? Not for good, but at least for the winter. Well, or give them such an ultimatum? We chew snot again. winked
      It seems that someone from the Kremlin is afraid of personal sanctions or the loss of money on foreign accounts.
      1. Nadrub
        Nadrub 23 September 2020 13: 56
        +2
        It's easy to explain!
        According to the current ideology, we are enemies for them, and they are partners for us. Absolutely all bureaucrats are afraid of personal sanctions, right from the top officials ... Putin has a daughter there, Lavrov has ... and further down the list can be continued up to the local heads of the Muhasrakns' administrations, that is, everyone who has sucked on budget money directly or indirectly. I think this is a list of several tens of thousands. They steal everything at the slightest opportunity ...

        Kim took and sent amerikosov in 3 funny letters, they both grabbed and wiped off, because there was simply nothing to hook him with.
  8. BAI
    BAI 23 September 2020 09: 18
    +4
    Friedrich Merz believed to be probable successor Angela Merkel nwhile the Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany,

    The Chancellor-Pact has not been canceled. The new chancellor will be obliged to oppose the joint venture, otherwise it will not be approved. Germany, like Japan, is still under occupation.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 23 September 2020 09: 33
      0
      Chancellor-Act actually. It's like a gopher, which we have not seen, but it IS!
  9. iouris
    iouris 23 September 2020 09: 20
    -4
    Everything, they forgot about the SP-2: starve and prepare for war.
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 September 2020 09: 27
    +1
    Here's how to do business with people? And this is with the great involvement of the German elite and business in SP2 / 1 .... and with this they are so stalled. Do they not allow themselves to earn money? The Turks managed to intercept the project from the Bulgarians and build it, and they are already receiving gas.
  11. PROVINCIAL
    PROVINCIAL 23 September 2020 09: 29
    +1
    In addition to the profit of certain circles, I do not see any advantages in SP2. Tax revenues to the budget ??? The question is how is the budget spent (rhetorical) ??. Political benefits of cooperation with Germany and the EU ?? Maybe. In the short term. But. It is not easier to "drown" your production and utilities with cheap gas to reduce the cost of goods and payments. Give impetus to the development of production. I do not know. "Giraffe is big". This comment is my personal opinion on the draft SP 2.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 23 September 2020 09: 31
    0
    What awaits the FRG, Europe and Russia if Berlin nevertheless abandons the project?

    Who knows what will happen and how.
    Now they say so, count and recount, and then all recounts in the trash can, this is when the fresh north wind blows! Although ... maybe, after all, the southern, warm breeze caressed !!!
    This is unpredictable.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 September 2020 09: 52
    0
    This is why Chancellor Angela Merkel, with the difficult relations between Germany and the EU with Russia, so insists on the completion of the gas pipeline
    How long has it been? Or am I missing something? request
  14. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 23 September 2020 10: 11
    -1
    gas and gas supplies depend on terminal infrastructure
    Let them build terminals for receiving liquefied gas, our LNG will still be cheaper than the American one.
  15. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 23 September 2020 10: 37
    0
    Is it impossible without insurance? I have no insurance. Saved thousands of dollars on this.
    1. iouris
      iouris 23 September 2020 11: 27
      -1
      Quote: Alex Justice
      Is it impossible without insurance?

      And without "insurance" is impossible!
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 23 September 2020 13: 03
    -1
    In winter, when the word "gas" is used, the Germans will lean on green peas ...
  17. NF68
    NF68 23 September 2020 16: 02
    0
    Then you have to depend on the fool of the Ukrainian horses. Who knows what else will get into their heads and how it can affect the pipelines through which gas enters the EU.
  18. dgonni
    dgonni 23 September 2020 19: 03
    0
    Polonsky handsome. He fogged up, provoked readers by taking the message of this article in the other direction. And at the very end he gave the most important thing! (Meanwhile, the International Group of P&I Clubs, which insures 90% of commercial ships in the world, decided not to provide insurance coverage to the ships of those companies involved in the construction of Nord Stream 2.)
    Translated into normal language, it means that the Nord Stream will not be built either this or next year. And if in fact, then in the next 5-10 years.
    And the position of the Germans will not affect this in any way.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 23 September 2020 19: 39
      0
      Let them sell gas cheaply across Russia. He is more necessary to his own. Maybe he will spin up the production, or buy one and sell it. Nemchura will freeze, run over the authorities, you look and finish building. In Germany, elections are always more with a real choice. Politicians have to spin and take into account the opinion of the plebs.
  19. solzh
    solzh 25 September 2020 00: 19
    10
    Obedience to Washington or affordable gas: Germany's choice for SP-2

    Whether Germany buys Russian gas or not, we, the citizens of Russia, are neither warm nor cold. From the sale of oil and gas abroad, the people of Russia have had nothing and will not have anything. All the profits will go to the oligarchs.
  20. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 8 October 2020 14: 58
    -1
    Sometimes it happens