US Helsinki Commission urged Russia to cancel the upcoming Kavkaz-2012 strategic exercises

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The US Helsinki Commission, at the request of the Georgian authorities, called on Russia to cancel the upcoming Kavkaz-2012 strategic command and staff exercises (KSHU) to be held from 17 to 23 in September in southern Russia, as well as allegedly in the "occupied" territories of Georgia - South Ossetia and Abkhazia . Yesterday, General of the Army Nikolai Makarov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, once again declared that these maneuvers do not threaten anyone and will be held only in Russia.

As is known, the Commission for Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the US Helsinki Commission, is an independent agency of the federal government. She has been charged with monitoring compliance with the HNS agreements of the year and the observance of human rights and democracy in 1973 countries. The commission includes nine members of the US Senate, nine people from the House of Representatives and one each from the State Department, the Ministry of Defense and Commerce. Appeal of this body to the leadership of the Russian Federation, apparently, reflects the official point of view of the American leadership. It, like many other leaders of the world, does not recognize the independent republics created after the short-lived war in August 56 between the Russian Federation and Georgia - South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Today marks exactly four years since the start of this war. During this time, Russian military bases have been created in the newly formed republics, and Moscow actively helps South Ossetia and Abkhazia to defend their sovereignty economically and defensively.

As the Chief of the General Staff emphasized, a distinctive feature of the Kavkaz-2012 SKSHU will be that their scenario does not envisage the creation of significant groups of troops (forces) and all the actions of the troops will be organized in the Southern Military District (South Military District). But, as is known, the Russian bases stationed in Abkhazia and South Ossetia are included in the Southern Military District. And this means that their governing bodies will still participate in the SKSHU. This was confirmed yesterday by the commander of the 58 Army, Major General Andrei Gurulev. According to him, the task force of the 4 military base (South Ossetia), like other units of the 58 army, "will carry out tasks according to the training plan." True, not in South Ossetia, but at the Kapustin Yar test site in Russia. Similar tasks in the territory of the Russian Federation will be performed by the operational groups of the 7 military base located in Abkhazia and the 102 military base located in Armenia.

Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan said recently that before the launch of “Caucasus-2012”, the Collective Rapid Reaction Forces (CRRF) of the CSTO “Interaction-2012”, whose design is connected with the Russian SKSU, will be held in Armenia. According to the statement by Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov, Commander of the Airborne Forces of Russia, units of the 98 Division of the Airborne Forces will take part in the CORF exercises in Armenia. Although Shamanov did not say how these units will be delivered to Armenia. It can be assumed that they will fly there over the territory of Azerbaijan (which is unlikely) or Iran (very likely). In general, it is difficult to imagine that the 98-division will fly over the territory of Georgia, because a year ago Tbilisi officially banned the flight of Russian military aircraft over its territory.

Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Colonel-General Alexander Postnikov said yesterday that the Kavkaz-2012 exercises are not related to the internal situation in the states neighboring Russia, in particular, with the elections in Georgia. “In order to exclude possible speculations on this topic,” the general stressed, “we have excluded from the list of participants the exercises of the subdivision from our military bases in South Ossetia, Abkhazia and even Armenia.” However, the true goals of the teachings are not widely advertised. Several disclosed the details of the maneuvers Army General Nikolai Makarov, as well as other military leaders.

According to the Chief of the General Staff, “the plan of the exercise provides for the development of combat training tasks for the preparation and use of groups of troops (forces) to ensure military security in the South-West region of Russia. The main goal of this exercise will be to improve the practical skills of commanders and staffs in the planning and use of troops (forces) in a flat-steppe area using advanced automated control systems, using high-precision weapons and new weapons. The troops will practice practical actions at the Prudboy, Kapustin Yar, Ashuluk and Raevskoye ranges located in the Southern Military District. It is planned to attract military authorities and troops (forces) deployed in the South-West region of Russia from the Russian Armed Forces; from the federal executive bodies - operational groups of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Federal Security Service, Federal Security Service and the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia ”. This is the most significant defense event to be held in the Russian Federation this year.

Meanwhile, an unbiased analysis allows us to conclude that not only geopolitical, but internal tasks related to defense and security will be worked out at the secondary school. So, the commander of the Black Sea fleet Rear Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov recently said that the grouping of the ships of the three fleets (Northern, Baltic and Black Sea), which is currently operating in the Mediterranean Sea, will take part in the Caucasus-2012 School. According to the Ministry of Defense, "the three landing ships of the Northern Fleet -" Alexander Otrakovsky "," George the Victorious "and" Kondopoga ", which are currently located in the Mediterranean Sea, will enter the port of Novorossiysk on August 11 and 12 to replenish supplies." Sources of NG in the military department note that the Navy group in the Black Sea will work out the tasks of protecting and defending water lines similar to those that will be carried out during the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi. Ground groups at the secondary school will mainly carry out combat training tasks related to the fight against illegal armed groups that are actually operating in the North Caucasus. Apparently, it is no coincidence that the main troops at the SKSHU will be concentrated in the real combat zone in Dagestan and other republics of the North Caucasus.

As the 58 Army commander Andrei Gurulev said yesterday, during the development of the concept of the Kavkaz-2012 exercise, “practical tasks will be performed by units of two separate motorized rifle brigades belonging to the army - Vladikavkaz and Buynaksk. These compounds will have to work out their episodes at the Raevskoye testing ground located on the territory of the Krasnodar Territory and at the Dalniy training ground located in Dagestan. In total, each of these motorized rifle brigades will train about a thousand servicemen. The rest of the formations and military units of the 58 Army will work out the questions of the SKSHU plan as part of their departments and support units near the points of permanent deployment. ” For example, in Chechnya, these actions will be worked out at the Alpine training complexes (UTK) (near the village of Borzoy), Gvardeets (Shali) and Kalinovsky (Kalinovskaya village). In turn, the personnel of the army artillery brigade deployed in the territory of Ingushetia will use the capabilities of its Troitsky training center. For this purpose, the Dzartzi military complex will be used at the 4 military base in South Ossetia.

Georgia fears that after the Kavkaz-2012 CXSU, Russia will again attack it. In the military and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation it is rejected. At the same time, Andrei Gurulev argues that "the intensity of combat training at a military base located on the territory of South Ossetia does not decrease and gives every reason to believe that the unit is combat-ready and capable of performing any tasks assigned for its intended purpose."
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  1. +26
    10 August 2012 06: 50
    It’s extremely unworthy news, the feeling that Lev Natanovich himself participated in the drafting of the resolution, can only be shamelessly shook.
    The passage is especially beautiful:
    Georgia fears that after the Caucasus-2012 SKSHU Russia will attack it again.

    And take the last khachipuri, not otherwise laughing
    1. Protey
      +26
      10 August 2012 07: 00
      And the valiant President Saakashvilli will gobble up another tie! laughing
      1. sv-sakh
        +5
        10 August 2012 07: 10
        But at the same time, Apricots tirelessly equip Rodent Georgians offensive weapons ...
      2. pribolt
        +17
        10 August 2012 09: 10
        Yes, it seems Saakashvili again managed to do it ahead of time, and Russia should demand from the United States to withdraw its military base from Qatar, as our partners from Syria and Iran are afraid of not considered actions .....
        1. +6
          10 August 2012 12: 56
          pribolt:
          We need to help the Iranians build their base in Colombia ... Then help Colombian farmers in the form of traffic to Washington ...
          1. pribolt
            +12
            10 August 2012 13: 01
            Ilya, you can believe me with Colombian farmers with traffic to the United States no problems. laughing
            1. +12
              10 August 2012 13: 12
              pribolt:

              The Americans actually took control of the Afghan traffic and without declaring war, up to 30 thousand people die in our country. Moreover, these are young people who must continue their family and defend the country ... Americans need to pay with the same card! To make their cocaine more accessible than a pack of cigarettes ...
              1. Ruff
                +12
                10 August 2012 14: 04
                Quote: baron.nn
                Americans need to pay with the same card! To make their cocaine more affordable packs of cigars

                And this is the only way to get Amers to fight drug trafficking. And so that their zeal will only grow, Afghan heroin must also be redirected to America.
                1. +9
                  10 August 2012 14: 39
                  Ruff:
                  Together with Bush socks !!! Let them eat!
              2. +3
                10 August 2012 17: 31
                so that young people do not die from drugs, they need to be imprisoned for use or forcibly treated and blamed on amers even though I hate them meaningless occupation
                1. 0
                  13 August 2012 08: 38
                  Ruslan67:
                  It’s high time to plant for use! Only recently, the state’s concern for its citizens began to be seen. Maybe soon such a bill will ripen ...
          2. zhonny
            -1
            10 August 2012 13: 10
            So you personally go and create a base. A **** do not toss bags
        2. zhonny
          -1
          10 August 2012 13: 09
          To Saakashvili, some like walking to the moon
          1. +2
            10 August 2012 14: 01
            I mean no one can catch him? I think that in the event of another idiocy on the part of the Sahakis, once no one gives the STOP command to Tbilisi itself and the GDP, it will fulfill its promise to tear its eggs off.
        3. pribolt
          +2
          10 August 2012 13: 14
          Interesting news
          Afghan military shoots three US special forces in southern Afghanistan

          Читайте далее: http://www.ria.ru/world/20120810/720566731.html#ixzz238J1Tv5r
      3. 0
        10 August 2012 12: 54
        Protey:
        Not ... This time he will gobble up his socks!
        1. zhonny
          -1
          10 August 2012 13: 11
          Well, you have the Colonel’s intellect, what can I get from you other than analysis, and that’s not of high quality
      4. zhonny
        -1
        10 August 2012 13: 08
        But little boys do not kiss on the stomach like liliputin
      5. +1
        11 August 2012 23: 40
        I agree. With ties in Georgia now tension ...
    2. scrack
      +3
      10 August 2012 11: 08
      I wonder what granny Alekseeva is silent? She, too, seems to be from the Helsinki group
      1. recitatorus
        +15
        10 August 2012 11: 36
        Quote: scrack
        is an independent agency of the federal government.

        What's this??? Funny ??? And the composition is finally truth-tellers and pacifists; especially those from the State Department and the Ministry of Defense!
      2. +4
        10 August 2012 12: 57
        scrack:
        She is waiting for her text to be sent by mail! At her age it is already difficult to improvise ...
    3. Gur
      +3
      10 August 2012 14: 24
      Yes, this line also smiled at me)))) There is no stsuki in any garbage, but they will put their own squiggle. If Georgia attacks Ossetia again, then Russia will again nagging Georgia, this is, firstly, secondly AND YOU DO NOT SPIT IN THE MOUTH, Gentlemen from the Helsinki group ?? It will be necessary and we will conduct the exercises "CUBA 2013" and "VENEZUELA 2014" Something you do not ask us much, conducting exercises with the same Georgians, with Ukrainians. So fuck you on your forehead, so that you can take off your hat.
      Tell the people, and that the word x / o / x / o / l- is already abusive ?? What does his qualifier not let through ??
  2. +12
    10 August 2012 06: 58
    It is necessary in response to demand from the United States to disband the army and close all military bases, especially in the United States, but what should I say? laughing
    1. +9
      10 August 2012 07: 10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      It is necessary in response to demand from the United States to disband the army

      Hi Sasha! Yes, nothing is needed, just conduct exercises on the territory of Georgia, so that once and for all to shut the mouths of the "peace lovers" with the "peacemakers"
      1. +6
        10 August 2012 07: 12
        Quote: Tersky
        Yes, nothing is needed, just to conduct exercises on the territory of Georgia,

        Hi Victor, as I understand it, Saakashvilli’s consent is not required laughing
        1. thatupac
          +6
          10 August 2012 07: 21
          Sahak is nobody. What they say to him from YOUR committee, he will do and will. A sort of puppet.
        2. +1
          10 August 2012 10: 18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          as I understand it, Saakashvilli’s consent is not required

          Sasha, who ever asked him? laughing
        3. 0
          10 August 2012 15: 24
          It is necessary to ask the people of Georgia whether they agree to remove the tie-eater? If so, then peacekeeping troops must be introduced into Georgia in support of the opposition.
      2. +9
        10 August 2012 10: 39
        Khersinsky group, Khersinsky group - pah on you. Also launch the Bulava.
        1. Che
          Che
          +1
          13 August 2012 15: 17
          DEMENTIY,
          A radical remedy for Alekseeva - per count. Effective thing against paranoid
      3. 0
        10 August 2012 12: 59
        Tersky:
        On the territory of Georgia there is no need to conduct exercises. there you can arrange firing a new strategic cruise missile. For one, and see how she will behave in the highlands ...
        1. zhonny
          -2
          10 August 2012 13: 14
          You in the last war already launched TU 160, As he tumbled down. Looks like it? Well then, let’s take a look at the next victim with pleasure, warriors
          1. Perch_xnumx
            -1
            10 August 2012 13: 54
            Yah. If that eye on the ass taut without problems. Any doubts?
            1. 0
              10 August 2012 14: 41
              perch_1:
              There is no doubt! Someone who, but not Georgians call themselves warriors ... They only know how to sing well ...
      4. zhonny
        -2
        10 August 2012 13: 12
        Carry out exercises in the Kremlin
  3. +12
    10 August 2012 06: 59
    Spit on the Helsinki group and the American lying shit democracy!
    1. +11
      10 August 2012 07: 14
      Quote: aleks3897
      Spit on the Helsinki Group

      Not only to spit, but also to close all offices in Russia, and to send democracy workers in a place with a grandmother to America. And better not by plane, but on the Titanic negative
      1. +2
        10 August 2012 07: 55
        Hi Sasha. don’t mention this bony and it’s going to vomit
        1. +4
          10 August 2012 08: 00
          Hi Sergey, you sat well yesterday laughing Yes, I wish the granny a good journey to the bottom, otherwise I look at the apostles who lost her draft. I need help with the departure.
  4. +3
    10 August 2012 07: 02
    Yes, no words - Georgia fears that after the Caucasus-2012 SKSHU Russia will attack it again. Politics -Although in the eyes all God's dew.
  5. vu-orlov
    +2
    10 August 2012 07: 04
    Let them go far, far and do not look back !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Gemar
      0
      10 August 2012 15: 03
      We must declare following the example of the "democratic" West - We have not yet decided who to attack, at this stage the exercises are not directed against anyone specific. So all fears are unfounded!
  6. +6
    10 August 2012 07: 14
    And where does this commission?
    After all, Russia will not conduct exercises in Helsinki.
    1. +12
      10 August 2012 07: 19
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      After all, Russia will not conduct exercises in Helsinki

      This is the next stage of the exercise.
      1. +5
        10 August 2012 07: 48
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is the next stage of the exercise.

        Finns should not be touched, we have more or less normal relations with them. But on the border with Poland, I would have fired Iskander. It’s purely so to check the combat readiness, and then oops they turn out to shoot a little in the wrong place.
        1. +2
          10 August 2012 08: 05
          Hi Zhenya, and whoever touches them, so shuganul on easy.
          Quote: Steam Train
          But on the border with Poland, I would conduct live firing

          Specify Zhenya at the border of Poland or on the border of Poland?
          1. +1
            10 August 2012 08: 15
            Hi Sanya. More precisely, from the border with Polsha.
        2. DYMITRY
          +7
          10 August 2012 09: 03
          Quote: Steam Train
          Finns should not be touched, we have more or less normal relations with them.

          Good afternoon, Eugene! Here the question is very controversial. At the interstate level, compared to others, everything is really good. But at the level of people, the situation is absolutely the opposite. All sociological studies show: the most hostile attitude towards the Russians, in Europe, is observed just the same in Finland. Ordinary Finns can not stand us, and are afraid to wet pants.
          1. 0
            10 August 2012 11: 22
            Quote: DYMITRY
            All sociological studies show: the most hostile attitude towards the Russians, in Europe, is observed just the same in Finland. Ordinary Finns can not stand us, and are afraid to wet pants.

            Greetings Dmitry! Well, I know about that, I've been there. They in St. Petersburg are not very kind to us, but they are still cowards.
          2. +1
            10 August 2012 12: 33
            Quote: DYMITRY
            Ordinary Finns can not stand us, and are afraid to wet pants

            Afraid means respect! History is remembered. It remains to teach similar lessons to all "neighbors" on the western borders.
            Even from Vyborg and Vysotsk I remember their reverent and ingratiating behavior. In any case, to us - sailors - border guards.
            It’s a wonderful sight when, during alarms or inspections and cranking, all the trunks on the PSKRah and PSKa were pointed at by Finnish ferries passing through the Trongsund Gate along the fairway!
  7. Shulz-1955
    +3
    10 August 2012 07: 18
    It’s good that they didn’t offer to surrender
  8. thatupac
    +2
    10 August 2012 07: 19
    Not the Helsinki Group, this is a matter of where and when to teach us. And if someone in Georgia is afraid that we will immediately wrap them up from the exercises in Georgia, I can reassure them: we don’t need another subsidized region. Its enough. Let the USA feed Georgia. The United States is doing pretty well.
  9. +3
    10 August 2012 07: 27
    some pointers give us finally insolent ...
  10. itr
    +1
    10 August 2012 07: 27
    We must respond with exercises near the borders of the Scandinavian countries
    1. +3
      10 August 2012 07: 50
      So this is only the name Helsinki, at the place of signing the agreement. Then, off the coast of America, from where the feet of this commission grow.
      1. itr
        +3
        10 August 2012 08: 46
        Spit next time they will know where and what to sign
    2. +6
      10 August 2012 08: 33
      Quote: itr
      We must respond with exercises near the borders of the Scandinavian countries


      It is better to conduct large-scale exercises in the Caribbean with live firing and involving the fleet of Venisuela and Cuba.
      1. +2
        10 August 2012 10: 43
        Aha good , and practicing landing on a cube
        1. +1
          10 August 2012 14: 15
          Quote: Rowicz
          Yeah, and practicing landing on a cube
          In connection with the conditions of the exercises, close to the military, to work landing in Miami. laughing
  11. Che
    Che
    +6
    10 August 2012 07: 46
    If I am not mistaken, the "old galosh" is their representative in Russia. Maybe they are being tried by these rats for treason. And tell the common people to shut up, as the Chinese say.
    1. itr
      0
      10 August 2012 08: 46
      Damn, I generally doubt that Cuba has something
    2. 0
      10 August 2012 15: 27
      That's right you think Che !!! +++++
  12. Darck
    -14
    10 August 2012 07: 57
    as well as allegedly in the “occupied” territories of Georgia
    Why supposedly? As far as I remember, it was the territory of Georgia before the war.
    Georgia fears that after the Caucasus-2012 SKSHU Russia will attack it again.
    Why be afraid, it is better to invite the Americans and conduct exercises with them. As practice shows, one destroyer is enough for the Russian generals to make noise. With screams that there are tomahawks on board that can fly to Moscow.
    1. Che
      Che
      +7
      10 August 2012 08: 03
      Darck,
      These territories were never Georgian; after the revolution, the Bolsheviks presented them to Georgia. And the Mensheviks still carried out the massacre there. So do not la la
      1. Darck
        -2
        13 August 2012 12: 50
        These territories were never Georgian; after the revolution, the Bolsheviks presented them to Georgia.
        You contradict yourself, you say that you never belonged, and then you yourself say that Georgia was presented, then all the same it is the territory of Georgia.
        1. Che
          Che
          +1
          13 August 2012 15: 23
          Darck,
          I read a little about this topic. Abkhazia and Ossetia were not part of Georgia before the revolution, somewhere in 29 years Dzhugashvili made a present to Georgia, well, as Nikita gave the Crimea to Ukraine. the same here. Ossetia and Abkhazia still remember the massacre of the Georgian Mensheviks.
    2. +2
      10 August 2012 08: 20
      And who are you by nationality? It’s like writing in Russian, but I understood the bank accounts and real estate in the west, they do not allow criticizing the US democratic regime.
      1. +4
        10 August 2012 08: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And who are you by nationality? It’s like writing in Russian, but I understood the bank accounts and real estate in the west, they do not allow criticizing the US democratic regime.

        Yes, let him critically criticize, he did not have much time. If the porridge is brewed, which is so desperate for .., first of all, the heads of the corrupt liberals will fly.
        1. DYMITRY
          +4
          10 August 2012 09: 09
          Quote: Ustas
          Yes, let him critically criticize, he did not have much time.

          As you know, during the war they tried not to take Vlasov prisoners. Then I think it will be the same.
      2. Darck
        -2
        13 August 2012 13: 08
        And who are you by nationality? It’s like writing in Russian, but I understood the bank accounts and real estate in the west, they do not allow criticizing the US democratic regime.
        An average Russian would probably never think of learning foreign languages. Or is it just envy of those who have real estate and accounts in the West? Why should I criticize? I'm not you.
        When a rocket arrives from the coastal Club-M complex, the destroyer will not find it enough.
        Again words, words, from whom will it fly? I remembered 56, beautiful Tomahawk missiles with nuclear warheads. So, think again .... hi
    3. +5
      10 August 2012 08: 44
      Quote: Darck
      Why be afraid, it is better to invite the Americans and conduct exercises with them. As practice shows, one destroyer is enough

      When a rocket arrives from the coastal Club-M complex, the destroyer will not find it enough.
  13. +8
    10 August 2012 08: 20
    "The commission includes nine members of the US Senate, nine people from the House of Representatives and one member each from the State Department, the Department of Defense and Trade")) what an independent and not biased commission ... anecdote))
  14. patriot2
    +6
    10 August 2012 08: 21
    am It has begun ..., the amers are ready and draw up a schedule with the venue for the exercises!
    And if they didn’t go to e .... Marusa signed.
    Assign training goals in Georgia to the district commander! laughing
  15. +6
    10 August 2012 08: 26
    The Russian Foreign Ministry is silent again, as I understand it.
    All sorts of such recommendations and so on - a clear interference in internal affairs, don’t you, brothers?
    Our territories are what we want and do.
    If exercises were conducted on the territory of Georgia or the USA, then another thing, let's listen ... to the recommendations.
    But to teach us which hand to unzip his fly - is not necessary.
    1. +7
      10 August 2012 08: 37
      Greetings Igor. The fact is that this is not an official note of the government, but the recommendations of verbiage. Is it worth it to listen to them at all?
      1. +2
        10 August 2012 09: 25
        And here we have come to a consensus many times here.
        Information war.
        If you don’t let the teeth go right away, the jackal will grind.
        The slightest creep in the address of the Russian Federation-nip.
        As in that movie "Eggs of Destiny" - ". To punish. To punish cruelly."
        ...
        He who is not with us is against us.
        If the enemy does not surrender - they destroy him.
        And you can stop it ... for example, by mass launch of the Iskanders at the Baltic landfill.
        And the teachings, sort of.
        And a warning.
      2. +2
        10 August 2012 20: 38
        Steam locomotive [/ b I am generally surprised with how readily our media write about what the Americans have said. It is deeply "violet" to me that they think, for me it is important only that which is important for my HOMELAND-RUSSIA. It is less necessary to talk about what they say, demand, advise, etc., and do more ourselves in a practical way. To each in his place.
  16. +6
    10 August 2012 08: 32
    Generally insolent, will soon indicate where and when we need to cope am
  17. +6
    10 August 2012 08: 37
    Was it weak for General Makarov to advise the amers to shut up?
    (how did the Chinese do it?)
    Probably weak ......

    "Our foreign commanders do not dare to tear their uniforms against Russian bayonets ..........."

    Not I said, but a classic.
  18. +1
    10 August 2012 08: 39
    in Georgia they come to grips ... will Misha have his own tie again? what kind of nonsense and why does some commission indicate what and how to do?
    1. slas
      -1
      10 August 2012 10: 30
      Quote: Gentleman
      why some commission indicates what and how to do

      familiarize yourself with the composition of this group and understand everything. In the article "" "Appeal of this body to the leadership of the Russian Federation, apparently, reflects the official point of view of the American leadership."" " and this is probably only the tip of the iceberg and does not reflect namely these are the direct requirements of the State Drep
  19. slas
    +3
    10 August 2012 08: 40
    As you know, the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the US Helsinki Commission, is an independent agency of the federal government. She is tasked with monitoring compliance with the 1973 Helsinki Accords and with respect for human rights and democratic norms in 56 countries. The commission includes nine members of the US Senate, nine people from the House of Representatives and one member from the Department of State, the Department of Defense and Commerce. I am in shock the commission consists of senior officials and civil servants of the country "probable adversary" (and this is putting it mildly that probable). After reading this well, what assurances can be excuses and so on from our leaders? and most importantly they calm down "" "Don't think so, you can be sure that we have a little current and that's all" "" --- what for x ....?
    1. +2
      10 August 2012 09: 54
      The US Helsinki Commission is an independent agency of the federal government.

      Well oooooooooochen independent, direct independence and so forth!
  20. +1
    10 August 2012 08: 47
    I suggest that, in order not to unnerve Georgia, send yudashkin ties before the studies.
    1. +1
      10 August 2012 09: 02
      According to unverified data, a train with ties from Armani has already left there. laughing
  21. +7
    10 August 2012 08: 49
    Quote: Igarr
    All sorts of such recommendations and so on - a clear interference in internal affairs, don’t you, brothers?

    Igor, and I like our silence, "The dog barks, the caravan is coming."
    Solitaire plays out like that good They said the landing force will be delivered to Armenia for sure over the territory of Iran! As I understand it, these are EW airplanes, and covering air carriers is mandatory. If NATO was about to start in Syria, then I think at hour X ours will fly over Iran. EW will try, NATO will not see its. We have an old technique request, transporters can go to the compelled both in Iran and in Syria, but what is being driven there !? And God forbid a crazy rocket will go our way.
    The news is very positive and deep!
    1. +1
      10 August 2012 09: 29
      Boris, is this silence ".. Yesterday the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Nikolai Makarov, once again stated that these maneuvers do not threaten anyone and will take place only in the territory Russia. "

      73.
  22. T72B
    +5
    10 August 2012 09: 04
    "The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the US Helsinki Commission, is an independent agency of the federal government."

    Dip in and not get up as the Siomuds spin. Is it independent or government? Although independent organizations do not exist in nature. Summary: under normal power, they would have shut up these mongrels and their government so that they would go around there, would twitch and look around. And then some kind of intelligible mooing. Although, maybe in this situation it should be so: do not say neither yes nor no, but quietly do your thing?
  23. kasper
    +2
    10 August 2012 09: 06
    The request to not conduct the exercises is absurd and should not be considered, and the Georgian side is trying to provoke yet another scandal.
    Sakaashvili drink the poison.
    1. +2
      10 August 2012 09: 21
      Sakaashvili drink the poison.

      It is better to let a tie soaked in purgen gobble up, preferably before meeting with its owners.
  24. 0
    10 August 2012 09: 27
    It seems to me that our government will do the right thing in this case, and its statements will be approximately the same as Japan's response in the case of visiting the Kuril Islands' GDP. "Our country does what we want and do"

    PS: Mishiko see solitaire does not converge. he decided to conduct the exercises in September, and it would be quite by accident that a failure occurs in the navigation system of the Georgian warriors and they go straight to Tskhinval. 080808 -2nd series, and here with our teachings we will not even allow them to cross the border.
  25. -1
    10 August 2012 09: 32
    Quote: Igarr
    The Russian Foreign Ministry is silent again, as I understand it.

    I about it
  26. Hey
    0
    10 August 2012 09: 32
    They are still what infuriates. The other day there was news that we will not invite foreign representatives to these exercises.
  27. +1
    10 August 2012 10: 20
    So tell me that this statement is not another attempt to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign state. And rather impudent! "Summoned", "advised" ... They do not see the edges at all! And all from impunity and our excessive softness in solving some political issues.
  28. -1
    10 August 2012 11: 00
    "Yesterday Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Nikolai Makarov, once again said that these maneuvers do not threaten anyone and will take place only in Russia."
    "As the Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General Alexander Postnikov, the Caucasus-2012 exercises, said yesterday not related to the internal situation in neighboring states"
    How tired of this cowardly demagogy of our generals, who are always justifying themselves before the "world community!"
    Decided, done and sent!
  29. sonyr
    0
    10 August 2012 11: 15
    Helsinki yelling, we are going the right way, but at the same time we will do the mopping-up exercises, such as exercises))))))).
  30. Kaa
    0
    10 August 2012 11: 17
    As you know, the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the US Helsinki Commission, is an independent agency of the federal government.
    One of the two, or did the Americans move the capital to Helsinki, or did Finland become the next US state?
  31. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +6
    10 August 2012 11: 18
    I propose on the website to additionally introduce the medals retention, and for the non-worthy to introduce the highest order of Leo Sharansky
    1. Che
      Che
      +1
      10 August 2012 11: 32
      Alexey Prikazchikov,
      +++ How rats got divorced. Pinned. If there are artists, paint, make fun of amers. laughing
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        0
        10 August 2012 12: 56
        Somewhere on top of the order to place well, or hang a tunic in the profile smile
  32. red 015
    0
    10 August 2012 11: 58
    rather than go to the US Helsinki Commission for three cheerful letters
  33. +1
    10 August 2012 12: 08
    All this heeрthe senian group goes on foot erotic route.
  34. escobar
    -1
    10 August 2012 12: 40
    Sahake it's time to preserve ties as dry as possible))
  35. 0
    10 August 2012 12: 56
    It is necessary for the MoD to issue another release - a group of ships of the Russian Navy decided to go to Syria’s place,
    after half an hour, a new one - that they changed their minds and a couple more days like that.
  36. Lucky man
    +2
    10 August 2012 13: 08
    Russia needs to protect its national interests, not listen to all sakashitler, exercises must be carried out and the hysteria of the Helsinki district committee demonstratively does not give a damn
  37. Oleg Rosskiyy
    0
    10 August 2012 13: 21
    The Georgian people have nothing to fear, and Saakashvili would have left Georgia away from sin for the duration of the exercises, otherwise he would not have hurt himself again from fright.
  38. Cripple cross
    0
    10 August 2012 13: 29
    As the chief of the General Staff emphasized, a distinctive feature of the Caucasus-2012 SKHU will be that their scenario does not provide for the creation of significant groupings of troops (forces) and all actions of the troops will be organized on the territory of the Southern Military District (Southeast Military District). But, as you know, Russian bases deployed in Abkhazia and South Ossetia are part of the South-East Military District. And this means that their governing bodies will still participate in the secondary school.

    FINALLY !!!! ours have become smarter and began to competently how the US to justify its actions! 5 points to the government for such a dialogue! drinks
    There our bases are our people, so we have the right!
    But sleep calmly it is not against you laughing
  39. keylogger
    0
    10 August 2012 14: 12
    and I would urge to shut up this Helsinki *** until the teachings began on their territory. Smart *** have become.
  40. veles
    -1
    10 August 2012 14: 49
    Georgia fears that after the Caucasus-2012 SKSHU Russia will attack it again.
  41. Barrel
    +1
    10 August 2012 14: 53
    Don't tease pug
  42. veles
    0
    10 August 2012 15: 19
    Georgia fears that after the Caucasus-2012 SKSHU Russia will attack it again. Mmmm, the author is well done, eco has bent. Brain harvesting and nothing more! The head is not a device for absorbing food! The head is the carrier of the brain and mind (well, depending on the person, not everyone is given).
    1. Purgen
      +2
      10 August 2012 19: 45
      Head. This is primarily a place to wear and eat ties. Do not confuse people here. wassat When to think. There is a special button "Call a friend in Washington". wassat
  43. pifagor1980
    0
    10 August 2012 19: 49
    "She called to cancel," and what else needs to be done? We can together with the USA ... in Tbilisi, as Mr. Zhirinovsky advised
  44. Phase
    +1
    10 August 2012 21: 06
    Georgia fears that after Kavkaz-2012 SKSH Russia will attack it again

    It's funny to you! But what if, while practicing combat training tasks near the Georgian territory, the Russian troops will cross the border due to the poor functioning of the Glonass system?
    Of course, the Georgian border guards should have warned them, but ... when the familiar T-72 forces appeared on the horizon painfully, only dust blew in the place where the Georgian border guards were a second ago ...
    Columns of tank and motorized rifle units were drawn further and further into the territory of the proud Caucasian republic, not knowing what they were doing. On the side of the road they saw Georgians selling fruit. This did not cause any surprise among our tankers: everything is like in Russia.
    The tankers of the Georgian merchants also did not cause any surprise: after all that the Georgian President has done in recent years, this should have happened sooner or later. Everyone was waiting for this. Georgian pensioners who remember the USSR brushed away a tear of happiness and sneakily baptized the tankers in the next ...
  45. Pripyatchanin
    -1
    10 August 2012 21: 53
    Well, they poke their noses everywhere .... As the saying goes, "They ripped off the nose of a curious Barbarian in the bazaar."
  46. 16
    16
    -1
    10 August 2012 22: 04
    or maybe the Helsinki group will call to stop giving birth in RUSSIA RUSSIAN ?????? !!!!!!!!!!!
  47. wow
    -1
    10 August 2012 22: 20
    A very "honest" group, well, just very .... We should listen ....
  48. Temnik
    -1
    10 August 2012 22: 27
    I won’t be surprised if the teachings are canceled!
  49. strannik1
    0
    21 September 2012 12: 36
    Despite the numerous and very expressive statements of the Georgian leadership, the Caucasus-2012 exercises not only did not pose a threat to Georgia, but were also carried out at a considerable distance from the Georgian borders. But the most interesting thing is that Georgia responds with its Georgia 2012 exercises, which will be held at the end of September. There is only one fact that causes curious thoughts - the exercises are held exactly on the eve of the elections to the Georgian parliament - the moment in the life of any country is quite important, and even in developing countries like Georgia it is often a turning point. All past revolutionary "pink" (and not so) events there took place precisely after the popular will. And, despite the statements of M. Saakashvili about complete confidence in the victory of the “right” forces, there are doubts. And very serious. Such that, for those who disagree and protest against the election results, apparently, beds have already been prepared and that they will put them in these beds - batons, gas, water cannons and further down the list ... Even "disinterested" international observers and sympathizers from NATO are provided. The level of dispersal and subsequent treatment of demonstrators will meet high international standards.
    However, this is all the speculation and conjecture of the forces unfriendly to young democracy. Actually, Georgia 2012 is a regular emergency response exercise. And the terms ... But how many coincidences are there ?! And you should always be ready for an emergency. After all, Georgia is in such an earthquake-prone zone!
  50. kov
    kov
    0
    23 September 2012 19: 57
    A fragment of a video from the 2012 Caucasus Exercises

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