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The end of the Rybka factory in Liepaja with more than a century of history. How Latvia came to the ruined fish business

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One of the oldest fish canning factories in the country has closed in Latvia. The company in Liepaja stopped working, the fish business was destroyed. Officially stated that "because of the pandemic." Its owner accused the country's authorities of the lack of real support.


Liepaja Fish Canning Factory was founded almost 130 years ago, in 1892. One can only guess how many upheavals fell on more than a century of the life of the enterprise. The plant survived the pre-revolutionary years, the revolution and the First World War, worked during the years of independence of Latvia and even during the Nazi occupation. It flourished in the Soviet period, when a factory called "Rybka" supplied canned food throughout the Union and to the countries of Eastern Europe. After the collapse of the USSR, the situation began to deteriorate. And here is the sad result - an enterprise with a huge history and thousands of tons of sold products are closed. As its owner emphasizes, on the empty territory there are only guards, and even then the guards come from Riga.

Igor Krupnik, an entrepreneur with Russian and Israeli citizenship, admits that he is tired of struggling with the Latvian bureaucratic system and decided to leave for Israel with his family forever. There Krupnik hopes to get a job as a consultant with a good salary.

But it's not that. We are very accustomed to constant “beautiful stories” about all the conditions created in the European Union for business development. They say that only in Russia there are bureaucratic obstacles, only in Russia the state leaves entrepreneurs face to face with their problems in difficult times, but "here they" everything is different. The example of the Liepaja fish canning factory - the same "Rybka" - is another refutation of this thesis.

By the way, the plant in Liepaja was almost closed once. Then it was Igor Krupnik who saved him. The then mayor of the city Uldis Sesks, according to reports in the Russian and Latvian press, actually asked the businessman to start restoring the enterprise, battered by the post-Soviet upheavals.


Igor Krupnik


Krupnik agreed, and soon the enterprise gained momentum. However, in 2016 Trasta komercbanka went bankrupt, and then the plant also began to have problems. The fish breeding complex was closed, then the turn of the production of fish sticks came. Of the 450 employees, 80 people remained at the plant.

The last blow to one of the oldest companies in the Latvian fish canning industry was the coronavirus pandemic. All the insolvency assets of the plant have been bought out by Trasta komercbanka since September 1, although the latter is itself in a state of bankruptcy. Igor Krupnik claims that he never managed to find a common language with a bank representative: despite requests to be allowed to work until June 1, 2021, the bank remained adamant.

Meanwhile, the total debt of the plant is about 1 million euros, losses for the last year - 400 thousand euros. Will the bank, which itself is in a state of bankruptcy, be able to solve these problems and deal with the company's debts?

But it's not just the pandemic and commercial hardships. By its policy, the Latvian state itself creates obstacles to business development. It would seem, what is the reason for a small country to liquidate the last enterprises on its territory? But Riga is doing everything possible to make investors lose interest in them. By the way, in 2016 another largest enterprise in Liepaja, the metallurgical plant, was also closed. The scanty European quotas that Latvian industrial enterprises generate in 2-3 months also play a role. Due to the sanctions policy against Russia and counter-sanctions, our market is closed for Latvian sprats. In Latvia, they tried to find workarounds, including through the Republic of Belarus, but this was no way out of the situation. Now, with the statements of the official Riga about the need to introduce anti-Belarusian sanctions, and through Belarus, it will not work to import goods by pasting new labels into the Russian Federation.

In fact, the last centers of industry are being liquidated, which could compete with goods imported from Europe on the local market. What else to expect from the government of a country under external control? It will definitely not act in the interests of its own people.

But such a record appeared in the account of Igor Krupnik's wife Maya Krupnik:
The end of the Rybka factory in Liepaja with more than a century of history. How Latvia came to the ruined fish business
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 22 September 2020 11: 10
    30
    Shooting in the leg is an old Baltic tradition! request
    It's good that canneries were built in Kaliningrad, the absence of sprat - I would not bear it!
    1. Machito
      Machito 22 September 2020 11: 41
      48
      For Latvian sprats !!! Without clinking glasses drinks I hope that Old Man will not play the fool, and soon we will commemorate the Klaipeda port, cut into metal.
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 22 September 2020 12: 08
        35
        Another VERY graphic illustration of the fact that Russophobia is VERY expensive. And sometimes deadly! yes lol
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 22 September 2020 12: 17
          44
          do not care about sprats, we ourselves have thousands of old enterprises finished ...
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 September 2020 12: 27
            31
            Quote: Dead Day
            thousands of old enterprises ourselves have finished.

            And in someone else's eye, a speck is always more noticeable. request
            Only in recent years large enterprises in Volgograd and Saratov have been closed. In Saratov, under the guise of re-profiling production, more than two-thirds of the employees were fired.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 23 September 2020 09: 55
              -5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Only in recent years large enterprises in Volgograd and Saratov have been closed.

              What?
              1. List
                List 23 September 2020 14: 26
                +8
                SEPO, ninth plant, trolza, those glass. This is what is recently. The factory district is a ghetto. Paintball is played on the territory of the aircraft factory. Bearing. Tantalum. Reflector. Khimvolokno.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 01: 46
                  0
                  Quote: List
                  SEPO, the ninth plant,trolza, those glass. This is what is recently.

                  ZiU trolleybuses used to drive around our cities, and now Trolza buses run. Now won't they? Is it really possible to switch to "Chinese" here too?
                  1. List
                    List 26 September 2020 14: 18
                    +1
                    The plant is bankrupt. Courts are underway. Half of the plant has been sold out for a long time. Recently, it has hardly worked.
          2. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 22 September 2020 12: 32
            25
            That, but not that!
            In general, there are still people in Russia with a VERY strange sight: one thing they see, the other - not. Maybe buy better glasses?
            And after the collapse of the USSR, many enterprises of the former USSR closed and collapsed. But "Rybka" is the LAST plant in Latvia and the Latvian fish industry to produce sprat ... yes hi
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 22 September 2020 19: 08
              +9
              Why does Latvia bother you, Vladimir? I do not care about their enterprises personally, a little more than quite, what do we get from them? at least let them be pulled apart by bricks .. at least the former Soviet ones at least not .. just indifferently, this is a stupidly different country ...
              1. demos1111
                demos1111 23 September 2020 12: 20
                +7
                And I care. They made a great contribution to the destruction of my homeland, the Soviet Union. Whatever it was, it was my homeland, and it's time to answer.
                Let the earth be glass wool for them.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 23 September 2020 13: 45
                  +5
                  so he was their homeland too, and never less than yours, he was common .. and in general, the main contribution to the destruction of the USSR was made by "three in the forest" and among them there were Latvians, and there were no other tribals at all - be fair ...
                  And in what and to whom the answer they keep closing the plant then? in front of you rather and your citizens .. Do you have to do with it, Peter?
                  1. demos1111
                    demos1111 24 September 2020 15: 16
                    +2
                    What do you mean where I am here. I was born in Kavnos (for me triboltic extinctions, the same thing I do not share).
                    Later, they made me an occupier, a 6 year old occupier.
                    My father built a chemical plant for them, which is located near Jonava. I had to leave in 1982.
                    And what they wanted from the occupier, now it's either us or they.
                    And the riot near the TV center in Vilnius was raised by the Labuses.
                    So all this has a very direct bearing on me. Let them either trade with Europe or die. I think not a single kilogram of their cargo should pass through both the territory of Belarus and the Russian Federation.
                    1. 2 Level Advisor
                      2 Level Advisor 24 September 2020 15: 29
                      0
                      Now the situation is clear .. you have a personal dislike, I don’t have - for me they are just strangers .. and it’s clear where did you get dislike, where it came from .. so we didn’t understand each other. "Labus, Bandera, etc." - I think this phenomenon in every republic of the former USSR was ... and it was nurtured by local party elites, and they were raised from the 80s, so that it was as if they were to break away from the USSR and rule (rob) on their own ... but ordinary people suffered as always ..hi
                      1. yehat2
                        yehat2 25 September 2020 16: 23
                        +2
                        in general, the Balts are incomprehensible to me. They lived in the USSR like in chocolate, and not at the expense of their own labor. Why rock the rocker?
                      2. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 25 September 2020 17: 18
                        +1
                        yes, they promised them life as in Europe, as well as throughout the USSR, they twitched .. Fourth came by the way the Georgians, who were also like cheese but butter, and then the RSFSR .. it turns out that the first ones who were rushing were the ones who felt the best .. . strangely certainly .. and the last: Kazakhs then Uzbeks and a year later Azerbaijan ..
        2. Qwertyarion
          Qwertyarion 22 September 2020 14: 13
          +8
          Quote: Dead Day
          in our own enterprises, thousands of old ones have finished ...

          This is impossible.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 24 September 2020 20: 08
            +2
            Quote: Qwertyarion
            This is not allowed
            You just scratch about this here, but immediately say that it is impossible. Lies are everywhere.
        3. 210ox
          210ox 22 September 2020 14: 27
          15
          That's it. Let's calculate what and how much we have hunched at least since spring. If you nod at Kovid (everywhere, it's not Russophobia to nod to us)
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 23 September 2020 18: 02
            -4
            count .. what for example?
        4. CSKA
          CSKA 23 September 2020 09: 55
          -3
          Quote: Dead Day
          do not care about sprats, we ourselves have thousands of old enterprises finished ..

          In the 90s, many closed, but now many open every month and mainly in the engineering and chemical industries.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 01: 49
            0
            Quote: CSKA
            Many closed in the 90s

            If from every Soviet factory destroyed in the 90s, one and only dismissed worker pours on the grave of Yeltsin and Gaidar - above each a pile of feces will be the size of Lenin's Mausoleum.
        5. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 23 September 2020 18: 01
          +3
          By the way, the equipment from the Baltic sprats was bought by ours and taken to Kaliningrad ...
          1. 210ox
            210ox 23 September 2020 18: 40
            +4
            I've come across an article in Zen about the decline in river traffic in Ukraine. By 10%. Honestly, I did not even think that there was something floating along the Dnieper, or walking. I opened our statistics, a drop of 15%. Well, probably because many factories have opened. what In my small homeland in Smolensk, two factories - "Bacchus (vodka) and a refrigerator plant, were closed. However, it has not worked very well for the last five years. A large glass factory hunted in Roslavl. He worked for the French. Well, that is so. Especially without rummaging in nope, from memory.
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 24 September 2020 13: 39
              +1
              I heard the info-because of the shallowing of the rivers, river transportation + railway transportation is reduced very much, with road transportation, they squeezed income from the river workers
      2. Roman13579
        Roman13579 22 September 2020 13: 59
        26
        Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
        This is REAL Russophobia ..
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 22 September 2020 22: 15
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: Roman13579
          Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
          This is REAL Russophobia ..

          And AZLK (for the uninitiated, Moskvich)?, And the car IZH?
          Here administrators / moderators are chuckling me like a foreigner, but I ... about latitudes and sprat ...
          When you come to Riga, you find yourself in another world. Did any of you writers travel from Riga to Jelgava? Have you been to Dobele 1 or Dobele 2 from Jelgava?
          This and that, you have not seen anything in your life and do not know, and perhaps you have never eaten sprats in your life. I feel sorry for you, writers / Russians (dear) ...
          Fuck live and pasestsa Belarusian bird busel !!!
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            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 23 September 2020 09: 52
              +3
              Are you sure here that Poland only grows apples and closed the entire industry

              You will be interested in the industries of Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia - these countries are fully integrated into the western production chain - primarily the German one. There enterprises either have German owners or produce products for German firms. Will the Germans leave - ……?
            2. CSKA
              CSKA 23 September 2020 10: 00
              0
              Quote: Taxidruiver
              average salary of 1500 € and they cry

              ))))) Yeah. Have you ever been to Poland? In the course of what are the prices and what is 1500 euros in Poland?
              1. vindigo
                vindigo 23 September 2020 10: 35
                +1
                I was not. If you can tell me.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 23 September 2020 11: 54
                  0
                  Quote: vindigo
                  I was not. If you can tell me.

                  Renting an apartment will cost you 450-470 euros in Warsaw. Housing and communal services from 110 to 160 euros. Another 220-270 euros for food. This is with an average salary of about 1150 euros. So count it. 1500 dollars in Poland and in the Russian Federation are completely different money. In Poland this is the average salary, and in the Russian Federation it is 2,5 average salaries.
                  1. Yaroslavl
                    Yaroslavl 24 September 2020 14: 10
                    +1
                    It's a complete lie ... you can rent an apartment for a hundred decent ones, housing and communal services are like ours ... food, clothing, electronics, cars are getting cheaper and better ... no need to lie comrade, borders have long been open and people are there .. ... to sum up ... for all my dislike for Poland, the standard of living there is higher, and this is not discussed ... and much higher ...
                    1. CSKA
                      CSKA 29 September 2020 08: 12
                      -1
                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      Complete lies ... you can rent an apartment for a decent hundred

                      Oh sure. If only in a village near Warsaw.
                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      Housing and communal services like ours

                      What do you think? I paid 3000 for a two-room apartment in Krasnodar last month, this is 14 of the average salary in the Russian Federation. Housing and communal services in Poland is 6 part of the average salary.
                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      food, clothing, electronics, cars are getting cheaper and better

                      Yes Yes. And there the sun shines brighter and the grass is greener.
                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      the standard of living there is higher, and this is not discussed ... and much higher ...

                      Your lies are not discussed. An order of magnitude higher there is a desire to go somewhere to England.
                    2. Yaroslavl
                      Yaroslavl 29 September 2020 08: 42
                      0
                      about England sounds touching))) and you know that the Baltic states are going to the same England not because they die of hunger and live on 12 thousand.How do we have the people here?) no, do not know ... are you yelling that they are everything was destroyed there and left) so they left so that instead of 160 for ours to earn 300, that's all ... and the Poles are the same ... by the way, according to polls, up to 70% want to leave, but we just are not the European Union and do it no way ... that's all ... but for your comparisons, the left, about three thousand in Krasnodar ... the cop won't take a wolf ... your Kremlin gadgets won't give a ride)
              2. Avior
                Avior 24 September 2020 08: 45
                +2
                I was in Poland.
                Prices are close to Russian ones, taking into account, of course, that for a tourist they look a little more expensive, and for the assortment. Products are similar or slightly more expensive, rags and so on are cheaper, equipment and so on are practically the same. Within the limits of differences in Russian regions. The cost of services is slightly higher.
                Housing is more expensive, but again, it is different in different places.
                I see that the cost of housing in Warsaw is given from below, and the salary is average.
                it's like comparing the average salary from the Russian hinterland and the cost of housing in Moscow smile .
        2. CSKA
          CSKA 23 September 2020 09: 59
          -1
          Quote: Skalendarka
          When you come to Riga, you find yourself in another world.

          Wow. And what is there in this world so different?
        3. demos1111
          demos1111 23 September 2020 12: 24
          +2
          I agree, let the crane live in the 100 region of the Russian Federation, like Crimea.
          We will be very happy.
        4. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 02: 04
          0
          Quote: Skalendarka
          Perhaps they have never eaten sprats in their life.

          And in Soviet times, there were no others, except for "real". So eat, don't worry. They ate cervelat without soy and "mechanically deboned chicken meat", and they also ate boiled pork without carrageenan ..
          And now ... Everyone scribbles as he wants. They do not understand what and from what, and therefore there are no "real" sprats. I admit that even in the Baltics. I took an oval can of expensive Baltic sprats (Riga, or what? I don't remember exactly) - the taste and appearance are "the same", but there are EXACTLY 6 pieces in the can. For 165 rubles. In my opinion, 6 kilos for 165 rubles is a horse price.

          We are very accustomed to constant “beautiful stories” about all the conditions created in the European Union for business development.
          And who in the European Union needs the Baltic sprats, which they consider carcinogenic (even, as an exception, it was for the Baltic sprats that the MPC for carcinogens was reduced)? Especially sprats are not needed against the background of French sardines and Italian anchovies. Did the Balts really think that they would be allowed to go to the European trough? Yes, they will. They will invite you to the kitchen. As a snack ...
      3. Rzzz
        Rzzz 23 September 2020 09: 15
        +5
        Quote: Roman13579
        We also had a ZIL plant with almost a hundred-year history .. and closed a long time ago

        ZIL was not a tenant. It was stopped to develop back in Soviet times, after the construction of KamAZ it was already planned to be closed within the framework of the Soviet planned economy.
        Its products were uncompetitive. Enterprises were not opposed to receiving ZIL-130 for free in the USSR, but there were few who wanted to buy a truck developed in the 60s for real money, with a carburetor engine, and a carrying capacity of only 5 tons.
        The location of the plant in the center of Moscow made the entire logistics work extremely difficult, and it polluted the city with its emissions significantly.
        1. Suhow
          Suhow 23 September 2020 23: 25
          +2
          ZIL 130, carburetor, but they also produced zil133 gya (the KAMAZ gearbox engine is true) and ZIL 645 (this is an engine) at that time a reliable car, although even a new one had to be brought up, the driver was 25 years old, at that time he arranged ZIL (late 90s) I think the plant was hampered by the ovskoye KamAZ lobby, and alas, the bosses are lazy in pushing new projects ...
          1. Rzzz
            Rzzz 24 September 2020 07: 57
            0
            If you had a choice, what to buy - "Goby", or some tadpole from "Iveco" or others. For their money. What would you buy?
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 24 September 2020 08: 02
            0
            Quote: Suhow
            I think the plant was hampered by the Ovskoye KamAZ lobby, and alas, the bosses are too lazy to push new projects ..

            The bosses were normal. But it was really decided to close the plant back in the USSR. It was very inefficient due to obsolescence and complex logistics. There was no possibility to modernize and rebuild either. Therefore, they built KamAZ in an open field, using modern technologies. ZIL would have worked for another dozen years, and it would have been closed, even if the USSR had not collapsed.
      4. CSKA
        CSKA 23 September 2020 09: 59
        +1
        Quote: Roman13579
        Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
        This is REAL Russophobia ..

        What are you? And who needs a plant that is not capable of producing modern competitive cars?
      5. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 23 September 2020 18: 03
        +3
        rather the wrong hands at the management of the Plant
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    3. Alf
      Alf 22 September 2020 19: 49
      25
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Another VERY graphic illustration of the fact that Russophobia is VERY expensive.

      It was like this.

      But the information is outdated, it became so.
      1. Alf
        Alf 22 September 2020 22: 21
        +9
        Minusator can prove the presence of industry in sprat? As they say, please go to the ring.
        1. V1er
          V1er 23 September 2020 08: 10
          +6
          And here they minus just like that without meaning. They cannot show their bile otherwise. I wrote about an article on VO, about China's air defense. They gave me 5 minuses. What is what? There is an article, the same is written there as he said. But still cons.
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz 24 September 2020 07: 50
        +2
        They forgot to draw electric trains and trams.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 02: 30
        +1
        Quote: Alf
        It was like this.

        You, Vasily, have forgotten what was SO.
        And it became SO.
        The assets of the insolvent joint stock company Dzintars, that is, the building at Malu street 30, production equipment, vehicles, furniture, office equipment and 87 brands, were purchased for 5,5 million euros by the micro-enterprise SIA Ritrem with a registered capital of 2845 euros. In turn, this enterprise belongs to Daugavpils Locomotive Repair Plant LLC,
        The real beneficiary is Oleg Osinovskiy, an Estonian millionaire, who, together with the former chairman of the board of SJSC Latvijas dzelzceļš, Ugis Magoni, was sitting on the bribe bench in Latvia.
        Automatic translation - I don't know what a "bribe bench" is.
        1. Alf
          Alf 26 September 2020 12: 19
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          You, Vasily, have forgotten what was SO.

          But they are proud that they are Europe.
  2. Hagen
    Hagen 22 September 2020 16: 53
    +7
    Quote: Bearded
    For Latvian sprats !!! Without clinking glasses

    Nothing pleases like the grief of the sworn "friend". drinks
  3. mishaia_23
    mishaia_23 23 September 2020 10: 44
    +4
    Our Crimea
    LLC "Strait", Republic of Crimea
    Kerch, st. Kirov, 41
    Established sprat production
    1. demos1111
      demos1111 23 September 2020 12: 26
      +2
      Means for sprats !!!
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 02: 49
      0
      Quote: mishaia_23
      Our Crimea
      LLC "Strait", Republic of Crimea
      Kerch, st. Kirov, 41
      Established sprat production

      I will not say about Kerch sprats, I have not tried it yet. But in Sevastopol, sprat in tomato is made (sinful - I love it!) Very decent. And it costs 22 rubles in Magnet. How many of those kilks I have tried in recent years is not that. And I really liked these.
      If sprats are of the same quality as sprats in a tomato from Sevastopol, then very, very ...
  4. karpusha
    karpusha 23 September 2020 11: 47
    +2
    Yeah, you probably don't know that Belarus bought part of the bulk terminal in the Klaipeda port for a lot of money. Due to this, the Kaliningrad port for Bel. potassium - shot in the leg.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 23 September 2020 21: 29
      0
      Quote: karpusha
      Yeah, you probably don't know that Belarus bought part of the bulk terminal in the Klaipeda port for a lot of money. Due to this, the Kaliningrad port for Bel. potassium - shot in the leg.

      ===
      there the draft is 8.5 m, but at least 12.5 m is needed for ship parties, therefore, Kaliningrad was not considered half of potassium chloride
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 22 September 2020 12: 18
    13
    Quote: Hunter 2
    It's good that canneries were built in Kaliningrad, the absence of sprat - I would not bear it!

    Kaliningrad canneries ... Well, I don’t know, we also have Moscow sprats, although that there are sprats from Moscow, Narzan recently bought laughing laughing laughing from Minsk.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 22 September 2020 12: 58
      +1
      Read carefully. Often not the place of production is indicated, but the address of the office, registration of the manufacturer or distributor.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 22 September 2020 15: 17
        +3
        Quote: URAL72
        Read carefully. Often not the place of production is indicated, but the address of the office, registration of the manufacturer or distributor.

        Well, it's better not to talk about some office addresses at all. 7dachny settlement, line 5, building 6 from the gate, 3rd floor. And I'm talking about the manufacturer, and the address is also slightly better above the specified one.
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 23 September 2020 11: 18
      +4
      Kaliningrad canneries ...
      In the summer I was in Kaliningrad, the saleswomen in the fish department of the store said that most of the fish soldfrom the Far East, there is practically no local.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 02: 55
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      we also have Moscow sprats, although there are sprats from Moscow, recently bought by Narzan from Minsk.
      Well, only J. Psaki and A.G. Lukashenko know about shrimps and mussels from the "Belarusian Sea". And the residence of the President of Belarus is buried in blooming avocado .....

      I hope that in connection with the latest events in Minsk, Alexander Grigorievich will reconsider his views on geography and botany.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 September 2020 14: 19
    +7
    Quote: Hunter 2
    It's good that canneries were built in Kaliningrad, the absence of sprat - I would not bear it!

    And in Kaliningrad, there are also some small private enterprises. One of the largest factories in the Baltic, the BRKK in Peise, founded in September 1945, ceased to exist after 2000; a small combine works (in the same place nearby) from the former fish collective farm "For the Motherland".
    The entire fishing industry of the USSR, from Russia and the Baltic states, as well as Germany, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, was destroyed. Who will allow you to get free fish in the oceans.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 22 September 2020 15: 26
      13
      Quote: tihonmarine
      ... Who will allow you to get free fish in the oceans.

      The question is not much not so posed-Who will allow the free CHEAPEST fish to sell? This is an affordable fish according to the program, in the Far East, in a store, 2 weeks in Samberi pink salmon 135 rubles fool! When dealers sell ketin for 250-300 male not gutted. Today, around 17.00, I had to go to Komsomolsk by public transport, I walked, roughly speaking, to one store from Metallurgists in the direction of Kirov, there are real "fishermen-hunters" from the foothills of the Caucasus, 250 chum salmon are traded, closer to the market 300 per tail - gutted. An hour later I go back - ah beri fresh riba -150 tail ... Well, somehow like that.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 September 2020 15: 47
        16
        Quote: Fitter65
        "fishermen-hunters" from the foothills of the Caucasus, they trade in chum salmon 250, closer to the market 300 per tail - wasted

        That is the question, under the Soviet Union all fish were caught by the word and a small amount of RCS, but all processing, marketing and sale was carried out by state-owned enterprises at established state prices, and no one could sell for more. The "food" price for "straw" - horse mackerel, mackerel, hake, sardine, sardinella, hake, blue whiting - cost 450 rubles per ton, cod, perch 750 rubles. And herring 400 rubles. sprat and herring 300 rubles. After the collapse, everything went into private hands (the razderbanchik Chubais). I went through all this drunkenness.
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 September 2020 03: 11
        +1
        Quote: Fitter65
        real "fishery-hunters" from the foothills of the Caucasus

        They may think that potatoes grow on trees, they have not read Capital, they may not know what "surplus value" is and not know who Karl Marx is. But trading "bought-resold" is in their blood. Only earlier did he sell it - he went home. I ran out of money - I came to trade again. And now the whole aul is being brought here. Children play in the streets adjacent to the markets - two of the five are Russians. Quiet, creeping expansion?
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 22 September 2020 15: 51
      +1
      Do you live in Kaliningrad?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 September 2020 18: 31
        +1
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Do you live in Kaliningrad?

        My son studies at KTI: where am I when: I live in Tallinn.
    3. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 23 September 2020 18: 06
      +1
      and that's why they build seiners in batches in Russia? and where does 4,92 million tons of fish go?)
  • Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 22 September 2020 19: 27
    +3
    Sprats can be of any origin. Even Ilf and Petrov, when the Tribaltika was also kind of independent, wrote like this: - The husband says to his wife: - Buy sprat. Don't take Leningrad. Demand Tula. Although they are cheaper, they are much more nutritious.
    Personally, I am for the Tula sprats.
  • kytx
    kytx 24 September 2020 06: 45
    +1
    If honestly, sprats of Kaliningrad production are much worse than the Baltic ones, I know what I'm talking about, there is an opportunity to compare.
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    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 22 September 2020 12: 29
      -11 qualifying.
      And from what side to this site
      the neighbor's cow died, just gloat))
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 23 September 2020 06: 19
        -2
        of course))) because the neighbor is like that, so you can rejoice
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 23 September 2020 09: 46
          +3
          based on the Ukrainian press and comments in it - the neighbors are the same)
  • iouris
    iouris 22 September 2020 11: 14
    16
    One of the oldest Russian enterprises was destroyed. In the Russian Libau.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 September 2020 11: 30
      30
      End of the Rybka plant in Liepaja
      Why should I cry over this plant! We have ruined and closed the Lakobank! Factory, which supplied all the coastal and floating canneries of the Far East with a jar! Yes, there was ONE left from the floating factories! And there were dozens! So they drive fish with round timber abroad ...
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 22 September 2020 11: 48
        -6
        Our Lakobank factory was ruined and closed
        ...I sympathize..
        So they drive the fish abroad with round timber.
        ... Apparently, they didn't just close your plant, interfere ... And then, in Latvia, external management and the rest, in Russia there is no such thing ..
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 22 September 2020 11: 54
          21
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          plant, interfered ..

          He did not bother anyone! Effective managers were driven to collapse ... Smart people were found, they wanted to buy out and restore production, but ... They did not give it! Well, at least they were allowed to buy the equipment and take it to Shikotan, but the buildings are being destroyed ... They want to make a recreation area! What to rest from ?!
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 22 September 2020 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Effective managers are driven to ruin

            How simple everything is with us! And the fact that your fishmongers prefer to buy cans in Kaliningrad and the Moscow region because of their cheapness, but the fact that the buyer prefers to export red caviar to the mainland in plastic barrels and pack caviar already on the mainland, and the fact that they prefer to take fish fresh-frozen, in briquettes and make canned fish the same on the mainland, because it is cheaper, and the good location of the nearest competitor, the Nakhodka ZhBF ... is it you who are the managers to blame? Your "Lakobank" has filled up warehouses with products, got into debt and which shareholders will like it?
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 22 September 2020 13: 32
              19
              Quote: Serg65
              because it's cheaper

              Well, of course, is it cheaper to export for 11 thousand km for processing?
              In the union, FRESH fish was used to make products at Spafaryevo, at Shikotan, at coastal shipyards, at floating bases and floating factories, directly in the sea and from fresh fish, and not from defrosted raw materials. You will tell me about cheapness and quality. Of course, in the Moscow region Gaster will make you high-quality and cheap products .... This is firstly, and secondly - all the red fish and caviar are bought up by Muscovites, so that our jar is no longer needed. That's all - the fish is over - they cut out all the rivers, at the root! I have been on Sakhalin for over 50 years and I have not seen such barbarity as in recent years. He himself worked in the navy and everything was according to quotas - they caught it and went home. And the current chaos will soon end, in vain Sobchak got into this scam - there is nothing more to catch.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 22 September 2020 14: 16
                -1
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                in the Moscow region gaster will make you high-quality and cheap products

                I'm out of business here, and reducing the cost for those who hire Gaster is an overriding problem, because their imported comrades are backing up!
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                I have been on Sakhalin for over 50 years and I have not seen such barbarity as in recent years.

                In the early 90s in the upper reaches of the Amgun there was no less barbarism, eggs were fertilized by tons of rowing!
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                Well, of course, is it cheaper to export for 11 thousand km for processing?

                Yes, it is more profitable to carry a ready-made can with a low cost than to carry metal to Sakhalin and produce a can in Kholmsk!
                1. Uncle lee
                  Uncle lee 22 September 2020 14: 38
                  15
                  Quote: Serg65
                  ready can

                  The union was beneficial.
                  And you are an ardent admirer of Medvedev - we will all live in monotowns, and we will cut down everything else, cut it out, take it out. And we will be happy ... Chinese.
                  And yes. Nakhodka ZhBF back in 12 was covered with a copper basin - the terminal there is now coal ...
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 22 September 2020 14: 47
                    -4
                    Quote: Uncle Lee
                    Are you an ardent fan of Medvedev?

                    What did you decide?
                    Quote: Uncle Lee
                    we will cut down everything else, cut it out, take it out. And we will be happy ... Chinese.

                    Is Medvedev to blame for this or is it the local lads who have become officials and deputies?
                    I, just like you, do not wish Chinese happiness, but the truth of life is that where it is cheaper, they take it there! This is not my fault!
                    Moreover, you yourself say that and
                    Quote: Uncle Lee
                    The union was profitable

                    And also in the Union it was profitable to keep a huge fishing fleet and at the same time sell fish to foreign countries, and a Soviet citizen and a mentai with hake will go!
                    Quote: Uncle Lee
                    Nakhodka ZhBF back in 12 was covered with a copper basin - the terminal there is now coal ...

                    I confess I didn't know ...
                    1. Uncle lee
                      Uncle lee 22 September 2020 15: 12
                      12
                      Quote: Serg65
                      mentai with hake

                      Here you are wrong! The fish products that were then are not comparable to the current ones! And for the price and the range and quality. I saw this, used it and caught it myself, and I know it not by hearsay, working in the fishing industry. And now only profit is at the forefront - and quality .... No words.
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 22 September 2020 15: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Uncle Lee
                        Here you are wrong!

                        Maybe not right, but participating in the protection of fisheries near the Cape Verde islands and the Guinean shelf, I had a chance to bite off the fish of the Toothfish, which Crimean and Kaliningrad fishermen caught in large numbers, but in the Union I have never seen this toothfish, just like tuna and whale meat! Although the Odessa whaling flotilla Slava did not climb out of the oceans! But hake, pollock and herring, yes, it was a shaft ... the same mackerel was a rare guest on Soviet counters.
                      2. Aag
                        Aag 22 September 2020 22: 05
                        +4
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: Uncle Lee
                        Here you are wrong!

                        Maybe not right, but participating in the protection of fisheries near the Cape Verde islands and the Guinean shelf, I had a chance to bite off the fish of the Toothfish, which Crimean and Kaliningrad fishermen caught in large numbers, but in the Union I have never seen this toothfish, just like tuna and whale meat! Although the Odessa whaling flotilla Slava did not climb out of the oceans! But hake, pollock and herring, yes, it was a shaft ... the same mackerel was a rare guest on Soviet counters.

                        In the Soviet Union, fish products were distributed very unevenly, and even in a strange way. In Latvia, for example, pollock was a rarity. This is understandable. But, almost a delicacy (?)! This is against the background of fish abundance. Muksun, Chinook salmon were transported privately (mass businessmen from the north, - geological prospecting, polar aviation, etc.). I tried canned whale food, catfish a couple of times .... . Herring! Not everyone knows, there is even a national Latvian dish - milk soup with salted herring. It sounds wild, but very tasty ...
                        And, I will say that the herring that acquaintances brought from the floating bases after the voyage was not at all what was in the stores! ..
                        And I also remember the bewilderment of the Sakhalin residents who came to Riga because of the abundance of squid. They got it, and there it was a deficit, but here it lies, nobody takes it! They didn't know how to cook! (And they also overcooked the whole fern from the dacha))) ...
                      3. Serg65
                        Serg65 23 September 2020 07: 08
                        +6
                        Quote: AAG
                        In Latvia, for example, pollock was rare.

                        In the mid-80s, I was surprised to learn that, in addition to the Holland and Poshekhonsky cheeses, there is also a huge variety of this product and I first saw this variety in Riga, and in Liepaja, in addition to Riga and Zhigulevsky, I tasted 17 more types of beer at the local brewery. At that time, the Baltic States were the face of the USSR's well-being and it is not fair to compare it with .. for example, the Tula, Kurgan or Altai Territories!
                      4. Aag
                        Aag 23 September 2020 11: 16
                        +3
                        "The Baltic states at that time were the face of the USSR's well-being and it is not fair to compare it with ... for example, the Tula, Kurgan or Altai Territories!"
                        I agree ...
                        It seems that in the very first sentence of the post he indicated: "... the products were distributed very unevenly."
                  2. Boris Chernikov
                    Boris Chernikov 23 September 2020 18: 33
                    +3
                    laughing and how we had a sausage factory in Livny, but they saw the sausage from it only when he was driving "marriage"? went either for export, or to the capital, or to cities of special importance, a la Kharkov ..
                  3. Siberian54
                    Siberian54 27 September 2020 15: 38
                    0
                    "WHALE MEAT" -49 kopecks. Full shops, but who needs canned beef .. The lack of advertising ruined everything!
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 23 September 2020 09: 59
                  -2
                  And for the price and the range and quality.

                  Yes, yes, in Grocery stores of the mountains and Pyramids of cans of Pollock and Sprat in tomato. And nothing more!!! This is from personal experience. Let’s further tales for a fabulous assortment.
                  And the advocates of "Soviet welfare", especially food-related data, the USSR provided itself with food as much as as much as .... 60%. Do you know the country's food security threshold? All over the world, at least 80% is considered to be. That is, they themselves could not fully ensure their food security. The remaining 40% were purchased for oil, gas, timber.
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 23 September 2020 11: 23
          +3
          That's all - the fish is over - they cut out all the rivers, at the root!
          Here are the Magadan fishermen this fall in flight, there is no fish, neither chum, nor salmon, nor chinook salmon ..........
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 September 2020 07: 29
        +3
        Quote: Serg65
        Your "Lakobank" has filled warehouses with products, got into debt and which shareholders will like it?

        The shareholders are the superfluous link. hi
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 23 September 2020 08: 45
          +1
          hi have a nice one you too!
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          The shareholders are the extra link

          what do you offer?
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 23 September 2020 10: 30
            +1
            Quote: Serg65
            what do you offer?

            Yes, the recipe has been known for a long time: all large-scale production, especially the city-forming one, should have a single shareholder - the state. Naturally, with pumping out excess profits, but also covering losses or even repurposing at critical moments. Copper basin can be covered with such, but together with the state. With a certain time lag. There is a deeper question here - the question of the mechanisms that guarantee the stability of the state. It sags.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 24 September 2020 07: 40
              +2
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              the recipe has been known for a long time

              Those. do you propose to hang unprofitable enterprises on the neck of the state? If we are to take it into state ownership, then it is necessary to redesign the unprofitable into more profitable with deep modernization, but this still will not save most of the jobs, modern production is highly robotic.
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              the question of the mechanisms that guarantee the stability of the state.

              Sagging in what? What mechanisms, in your opinion, are needed to guarantee the stability of the state?
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 24 September 2020 10: 43
                +1
                Quote: Serg65
                Those. do you propose to hang unprofitable enterprises on the neck of the state?

                Large and city-forming - yes, "on the neck of the state", and that's all. Both unprofitable and profitable and super-profitable.
                Quote: Serg65
                If we are to take it into state ownership, then it is necessary to redesign the unprofitable into more profitable one with deep modernization, but this still will not save most of the jobs, modern production is highly robotic.

                It is a matter of prioritizing unemployment or profit. In the absence of unemployment (in fact, saving lives), only the state that expresses collective interests can be interested (in private interests - just not exceeding the critical level of unemployment). The release of "labor" is equivalent to the release of time and this time can be used, among other things, for advanced training or retraining and paid by the state. Nothing new.
                There are many varieties of social states.
                Quote: Serg65
                Sagging in what? What mechanisms, in your opinion, are needed to guarantee the stability of the state?

                It is not clear to me yet. Numerous examples of the degeneration of socialist / social states (not without external influence) and their preservation do not lead to an unambiguous answer.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 24 September 2020 12: 40
                  0
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  It's a matter of prioritizing unemployment or profit

                  More than one enterprise, be it private or public, cannot exist without profit! And unemployment, unemployment is the "merit" of the local leadership! Municipal enterprises to open, not a big problem!
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  The release of "labor" is equivalent to the release of time and this time can be used, including for advanced training or retraining and paid for by the state.

                  The idea is good in principle, but as experience has shown, ineffective. There are not so many who want to sit down at their desk again, the bulk of those who have become unemployed are inert and do not burn with the desire to move.
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  Large and city-forming - yes, "on the neck of the state", and that's all. Both unprofitable and profitable and super-profitable.

                  This is one of the reasons for the death of the USSR, instead of solving the problem of unprofitability, it, this problem, was simply driven under the plinth, justified by the desire to look like fighters for the happy life of this people in the face of the people! It was this approach to economics that corrupted the Soviet people, weaned them off work. If the old people still gave their all, then the youth ... Soviet folklore, a vivid example of this ... work is not a wolf, it will not run away into the forest, what is the salary, such a job, let the blacks work ...
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 23 September 2020 08: 35
      -1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      plant, interfered ..

      He did not bother anyone! Effective managers were driven to collapse ... Smart people were found, they wanted to buy out and restore production, but ... They did not give it! Well, at least they were allowed to buy the equipment and take it to Shikotan, but the buildings are being destroyed ... They want to make a recreation area! What to rest from ?!

      From life...
  • CBR600
    CBR600 22 September 2020 13: 05
    +3
    Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
    there is no such thing in Russia ..
    mm ....
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 22 September 2020 16: 02
      +4
      there is no such thing in Russia
      .
      Here I needed to put a smile like this laughing like sarcasm ...
  • ksv36
    ksv36 22 September 2020 14: 34
    +6
    Oh is it? Something tells me otherwise. Sberbank is not ours, and that says it all.
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 23 September 2020 08: 22
      0
      That was sarcasm.
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 23 September 2020 11: 01
    +2
    And then, in Latvia, external management and the rest, in Russia there is no such thing ..
    Dear colleague, don't be so naive. And there is external management and internal "ours" do an excellent job with the collapse of everything and everyone, just to get a momentary profit. Capitalism is called.
  • Horon
    Horon 22 September 2020 11: 54
    +4
    Or maybe it looks like this?
    they drive fish with round timber abroad ...

    that's why:
    ravaged and closed the Lakobank! factory, which supplied all the coastal and floating canneries of the Far East with a jar
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 September 2020 12: 01
      16
      Maybe so ! It's a lot of fuss: a jar, salt, seasonings, oil, tomato. Seaming lines, processors, sales - why such a hassle? I worked at UMRZF and KHBPTF - there were more than 100 steamers, miners, floating plants, floating bases, and transport fleet + coastal infrastructure: port, shipyard, refrigerators, warehouses. Only the port remained, and the oil industry took it.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 22 September 2020 12: 11
        +5
        Only the port remained, and the oil industry took it.
        ..... And the question is, and to whom did all this disturb:
        more than 100 steamships, miners, floating plants, floating bases, and transport fleet + coastal infrastructure: port, shipyard, refrigerators, warehouses
        request
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 22 September 2020 12: 17
          +5
          It interests me very much too! Some really wanted to become capitalists ...
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          who did it all disturb
      2. kepmor
        kepmor 22 September 2020 12: 20
        10
        that's why we have capelin with cod frozen in "ice glaze" on our shelves almost at the price of beef ... tin and nothing more ...
        and I still remember the taste of Liepaja smoked herring ... it went well with their beer "Kurzeme" with "Senche" ...
        everything was ruined for the sake of "paradise" on the outskirts of Europe ...
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 22 September 2020 13: 23
          +9
          They killed everywhere, not only in the backyard ... And they can't steal it, even in the backyard, even in the yard. smile
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 September 2020 18: 53
        +8
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        I worked at UMRZF and KHBPTF - there were more than 100 steamers, miners, floating plants, floating bases, and transport fleet + coastal infrastructure: port, shipyard, refrigerators, warehouses.

        This is the case everywhere. I worked from St. Petersburg to Kaliningrad in the unions of the Republic of Poland, now even the names are gone. Who now remembers Lenrybprom, Estrybprom, Litrybprom, Latrybprom and Kaliningradrybprom, with hundreds of fishing and transport vessels, large fish processing plants, everything has gone into oblivion. And in the Baltic there were the most modern ships. Everything and throughout the Union. And all shipping companies from St. Petersburg to Klaipeda, where are they now? India on pins and needles.
        1. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 22 September 2020 19: 30
          0
          In the 90s. Something is under construction now. Both large trawlers and MRS ... But, of course, what kind of devastation was carried out will not recover quickly.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 22 September 2020 23: 13
            +2
            Quote: Nikolai Korovin
            And large trawlers

            I know only five trawlers built at Sevmash by order of Russian businessmen for Murmansk.
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 23 September 2020 01: 30
              +3
              Almost the entire Sakhalin mining fleet is old Japanese and Korean schooners and the remnants of Soviet steamships. Alas....
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 September 2020 08: 01
                +3
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                Almost the entire Sakhalin mining fleet is old Japanese and Korean schooners and the remnants of Soviet steamships. Alas....

                In the Baltic the same thing, there were a few BATs in Kaliningrad, Peter left under Sobchak, Estonia and Latvia in the mid-90s, there were a few "Eagles" in Lithuania.
            2. Nikolai Korovin
              Nikolai Korovin 23 September 2020 11: 02
              +1
              Let me disagree. Here is a link, already quite old: https://marketing.rbc.ru/articles/10919/.
              Some of what is written here (only 44 units with a delivery plan of 11-12 per year) is already afloat - I saw the photo. MRSs are not registered here at all - they have been slowly riveted since last year in Blagoveshchensk. I also saw a photo of the deflated and put into operation. Of course, MRS is a MRS, a small boat, but they are also needed. There were many of them.
              I agree that this is also quite a bit, but the main thing is to start. Renew technology, training.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 September 2020 11: 50
                +3
                Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                I agree that this is also quite a bit, but the main thing is to start. Renew technology, training.

                In the Far East and MRS are needed, and in the Baltic and in the North, after the introduction of 200 mile zones, sea fishing is limited to Barentsukha, and the entire fleet was replaced by oceanic, "Horizons", "Pulkovo Meridians" RTMS, "Monzundy", "Orlyonki "and even Polish BTSP. But all this was built in Nikolaev and Germany, and now such capacities are not yet visible in Russia. So small lots only. Although back in the 2000s, Ukraine was building ships for Russia, and after 2014 these factories were torn apart, and the GDR's too.
              2. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 23 September 2020 14: 44
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                MRS is MRS

                MRS for coastal fishing, and here everything has already been caught and milled to shine. We need a normal sea and oceanic fleet.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 September 2020 16: 41
    +4
    Quote: iouris
    One of the oldest Russian enterprises was destroyed. In the Russian Libau.

    In the former Soviet city of Leningrad, there was the largest fish processing plant founded in 1934, in Ust Luga, a large fish processing plant has been operating since the 30s, and there was also a large plant in Ruchyi. And how many of them were there in the Leningrad region, in the village of Bolshoy Bor, a fish factory. These are only those that I had to visit.
  • Eldorado
    Eldorado 22 September 2020 11: 14
    +5
    Congratulations not brothers! As they would say in Ukraine - a reversal! lol
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 22 September 2020 11: 21
    +8
    They are not sprats for you!
    PiSi: the author forgot to say that it was the LAST fish processing plant in Latvia)))
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 September 2020 17: 18
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      the author forgot to say that it was the LAST in La

      And how many of them remained throughout the former USSR.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 September 2020 17: 52
        +1
        Not in the know, the other day I came across about the Baltics, there were 7 large ones, as they were called "fish farms" and a bunch of small ones. There are three left, now, apparently - two ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 September 2020 23: 15
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          "fish farms" and a bunch of small ones.

          I have not heard such an anecdote for a long time.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 23 September 2020 11: 26
        +2
        And how many of them remained throughout the former USSR.
        And how many of them are left in Russia?
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 22 September 2020 11: 23
    0
    It is urgent to appoint Krupnik as an agent of the Kremlin, accusing him of all sins.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 22 September 2020 11: 23
    +2
    Latvia and as a state "rotten" fish.
    The country itself is beautiful and interesting.
    But, as a state, it has not yet taken place.
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 22 September 2020 11: 31
    +1
    Damn ... I'll never try a normal sprat pate. I'll have to cook it myself.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 September 2020 17: 20
      +4
      Quote: Pavel73
      So I will not try a normal sprat paste.

      Not worth trying, the pate is made from torn sprat and sprat waste, and a good sprat is rolled into a jar.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 22 September 2020 18: 30
        +1
        So I say - you have to cook yourself :). In principle, it turns out well on a blender. But I want the one whose taste I remember from Soviet times ...
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 22 September 2020 11: 43
    +1
    They say that only in Russia there are bureaucratic obstacles, only in Russia the state leaves entrepreneurs face to face with their problems in difficult times, but "here they" everything is different.
    ... Oh, come on. They have their own viper in the EU. It is not clear what they are trying to get into. Greece, joined, found itself in debt like silks, and is no longer one of the largest producers of olive oil-quotas. It does not build ships in the volume that it used to build quotas, etc.
  • forester1971
    forester1971 22 September 2020 11: 43
    +9
    For the EU, the Baltic countries are suppliers of labor, which is of a slightly higher quality than the Arabs, Turks, etc. And for the United States, this is a springboard against Russia. Whether factories will work there or will be closed - the overlords do not care about the vassals. They were not admitted to the EU and NATO to do good.
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 22 September 2020 11: 46
    12
    They pushed me into tears. What they sowed, they reaped. Russian businessman with a Jewish passport ... cool. he rushes from country to country for world peace? And in my opinion, for the sake of profit, even the description about his difficulties does not impress.
  • bar
    bar 22 September 2020 12: 04
    +5
    A tailwind in a humpbacked back. I will not gloat, because not angry, and I do not feel joy about the cow that died at the neighbor's
  • Victorio
    Victorio 22 September 2020 12: 07
    +1
    the record appeared in the account of Igor Krupnik's wife Maya Krupnik
    ===
    ) a photo from the hall of the riga airport. we are leaving but will be back soon
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 September 2020 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: Victorio
      photo from riga airport hall. we are leaving but will be back soon

      I'm not sure about that. He has enough money both for Israel and for rest in Latvia.
  • Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 22 September 2020 12: 27
    11
    In Siberia, there are dozens or even hundreds of such enterprises, bankrupt and ruined. In my city there is such a "monument" to my native, Russian business. Former PO Khimprom. The last owners are the group of nitol bros Kotenko and the office of Mr. Chubais (only with a small letter). So we are not far from the same Latvians. Of the six former large enterprises, only a salt plant and a chemical pharmaceutical company operate. Pharma mainly deals with packaging. And the main payer of taxes to the city budget is the local CHPP, which is part of Irkutskenergo.
    1. bairat
      bairat 22 September 2020 13: 07
      +7
      I remember traveling by train for four days to find out why the plant in Upper Usolye stopped responding, where they made coal electrodes. And the plant turns out to be everything, ordered to live long. And our products are not complete, do whatever you want.
      1. Alf
        Alf 22 September 2020 22: 24
        +6
        Quote: bairat
        And our products are not complete, do what you want.

        Now Vadim237 will popularly explain to you that it is unprofitable to produce, it is cheaper in China.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 September 2020 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      In Siberia, there are dozens or even hundreds of such enterprises, bankrupt and ruined. In my city there is such a "monument" to my native, Russian business.

      And if we talk about the "fish", almost all the enterprises of the fishing industry of the Union, all have gone into oblivion, together with the largest and most modern fleet in the world. Now only remnants are working and a small number of new Russian and foreign vessels.
    3. Asad
      Asad 24 September 2020 09: 04
      +1
      In our new building in Novosibirsk there are 4 families from Usolye Sibirskoye.
      1. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket 24 September 2020 09: 29
        +2
        The people from Usolye-Sibirskoye are not just leaving, but fleeing .... It was during the time of hard drinking and negative phenomena of 150 thousand people, now, if I'm not mistaken, 76 thousand. This is how Siberia is depopulated ...
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 22 September 2020 12: 29
    +8
    They say that only in Russia there are bureaucratic obstacles, only in Russia the state leaves entrepreneurs face to face with their problems in difficult times, but "here they" everything is different.

    Yes Yes. Only he flies to Israel.
    As for the industry, or rather its absence in Latvia. Well, they won't have an industry - and so what? People completely, you understand, completely integrate themselves into the European Union. And they quite deliberately turn their country into a kind of wild pre-field, which, in which case it is not a pity to turn it into a battlefield or a huge sanatorium - as a chip will fall. Old people will live out their days on a European pension, and young people will scatter around the world, since they have the opportunity, and in 200 years, Latvia will safely dissolve in European Babylon. This is the fate of any small nations facing a powerful civilization and sincerely wishing to become a part of it. An inseparable part.
    I absolutely do not understand the authors who are trying to apply our views about a developed country, well, such as industry, science, education, etc., to dwarf countries, whose people with all their hearts want only one thing - to hide behind a strong back and not take any responsibility at all. They are so good and pleasant. This is their way. And to blame these countries, laugh at them and speak with them through the lip is at least not very reasonable.
    I think so.
    PS Something I do not see crowds of Russian-speaking refugees from the Baltic countries, joyfully returning to my country, so high-tech. I dare to think that the opportunities provided by the European Union suit them more than the former Motherland.
    1. Aag
      Aag 22 September 2020 21: 28
      +3
      Quote: WayKhe Thuo
      They say that only in Russia there are bureaucratic obstacles, only in Russia the state leaves entrepreneurs face to face with their problems in difficult times, but "here they" everything is different.

      Yes Yes. Only he flies to Israel.
      As for the industry, or rather its absence in Latvia. Well, they won't have an industry - and so what? People completely, you understand, completely integrate themselves into the European Union. And they quite deliberately turn their country into a kind of wild pre-field, which, in which case it is not a pity to turn it into a battlefield or a huge sanatorium - as a chip will fall. Old people will live out their days on a European pension, and young people will scatter around the world, since they have the opportunity, and in 200 years, Latvia will safely dissolve in European Babylon. This is the fate of any small nations facing a powerful civilization and sincerely wishing to become a part of it. An inseparable part.
      I absolutely do not understand the authors who are trying to apply our views about a developed country, well, such as industry, science, education, etc., to dwarf countries, whose people with all their hearts want only one thing - to hide behind a strong back and not take any responsibility at all. They are so good and pleasant. This is their way. And to blame these countries, laugh at them and speak with them through the lip is at least not very reasonable.
      I think so.
      PS Something I do not see crowds of Russian-speaking refugees from the Baltic countries, joyfully returning to my country, so high-tech. I dare to think that the opportunities provided by the European Union suit them more than the former Motherland.

      I wanted to sprinkle an angry comment ... I read it, put it (+) ... Apparently for: "... the opportunities provided by the European Union suit them more than the former Motherland."
      My opinion, of course, is subjective, because I was born, lived for 22 years in Riga, and, accordingly, there are a lot of friends, acquaintances (of different generations), including from the fishing fleet, fish processing industry.
      "... Old people will live out their days on a European pension"
      To be fair: they receive two pensions for working in the USSR (from the Russian Federation) for working in Latvia. It is difficult to prove the length of service in the Union after the mess of the 90s. For example, my mother lost 2/3 of the experience.
      "... And quite deliberately they turn their country into a kind of wild foreground, which, in which case it is not a pity to turn it into a battlefield or a huge sanatorium - as the chip will fall ..."
      Probably, it would be more correct to write not "consciously", but "forcedly" ... In the end, the course of the Russian Federation is also not determined by the people. Although there was a referendum in the 90s ...
      "... laughing at them and speaking to them through the lip is at least not very sensible."
      I completely agree! Little is it that my Latvian classmates are carrying Russian oil to the United States on Korean-built tankers under the Liberian flag, not morally or financially.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 22 September 2020 12: 48
    +8
    It's a pity. Until recently I bought the Balts. Ryazan sprats are something. Frozen, undercooked. The Kaliningradskys are not far away. And in Ryazan now even sea cabbage grows.
    1. Alf
      Alf 22 September 2020 22: 26
      +4
      Quote: sergo1914
      It's a pity. Until recently I bought the Balts.

      Try theirs in Auchan, "For every day". Believe me, you will be very pleasantly surprised - all fish are one to one, almost all are smoked. And not very expensive, in Samara Auchan exactly 50 rubles.
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 22 September 2020 12: 58
    +1
    Well, here are the fruits of this very nezalezhnost, all industry, everything that could represent at least some kind of competition for the EU is destroyed!
  • CBR600
    CBR600 22 September 2020 13: 02
    +3
    This kind of thing causes resentment and sorrow in me. I sympathize with employees, investors and everyone who participated in the development of the plant.
    Alas, from the Default series (South Korea) .. https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/1047328/
    Behind this are the lives (in the literal sense) of people. This is an economic war. And someone won it.
  • CBR600
    CBR600 22 September 2020 13: 09
    +1
    Quote: Livonetc
    Latvia and as a state "rotten" fish.
    The country itself is beautiful and interesting.
    But, as a state, it has not yet taken place.

    Are you talking about mentality? Then why are the Russians bad?
  • CBR600
    CBR600 22 September 2020 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: Pavel73
    Damn ... I'll never try a normal sprat pate. I'll have to cook it myself.

    the urgent need to be stocked up until the leftovers are sold out!
  • Roman13579
    Roman13579 22 September 2020 13: 58
    +4
    Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
    Ay-yay-yay-yay-yay, who did it ??
    1. Alf
      Alf 22 September 2020 22: 27
      +8
      Quote: Roman13579
      Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
      Ay-yay-yay-yay-yay, who did it ??

      Now the zaputintsy are giving you minuses, they have nothing to say ..
    2. CBR600
      CBR600 23 September 2020 08: 25
      +1
      It doesn't matter who did it. It is important that no one was sent to prison. And the diagram here, it became clear.
      1. Alf
        Alf 23 September 2020 19: 29
        +2
        Quote: CBR600
        It doesn't matter who did it. It is important that no one was sent to prison.

        Will they put themselves in prison?
    3. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 23 September 2020 08: 44
      0
      Quote: Roman13579
      Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
      Ay-yay-yay-yay-yay, who did it ??

      Latvian arrows ???
    4. Rosko
      Rosko 23 September 2020 09: 37
      +3
      names of the disappeared Samara enterprises, and that's not all.
      Plant them. Maslennikova (defense industry).
      9th GPP - made large bearings.
      4th GPP - mechanical engineering.
      GPP in the village. Melzavod - made micro bearings.
      Machine-tool plant - turning and milling machines.
      Jig boring machine plant (Bezymyanka station).
      Factory "Screen" - manufactured televisions and other devices.
      Aviation plant.
      Aerodrome equipment plant.
      Plant "KATEK" - defense industry, household appliances, mechanical engineering.
      The Avtoagregat plant in Togliatti - bankrupt since 2015
      Volgotanker shipping company, river port and river technical school.
      The confectionery factory "Russia" - the largest in Europe - has been sold to foreigners.
      Confectionery factory, st. Chapaevskaya.
      Bakery No. 3 per river Samara.
      Bakery # 1, st. Wentzeck.
      Bakery # 5, built in the 1970s at st. Nameless.
      Bakery # 4, pos. Mekhzavoda.
      Bakery # 9 is closed for housing development (it baked the most delicious bread and bakery products).
      A pig farm for one hundred thousand heads (built in 1970-1975 according to an Italian project) in Togliatti - with a village for workers (in the same years a pig farm for one hundred thousand heads was built in the village of Alekseevka, Samara region, also with a housing village) ...
      Knitwear factories in Samara and Novokuibyshevsk.
      Melzavod No. 1 on Khlebnaya Square.
      Melzavod No. 2 for the river. Samara.
      Melzavod No. 3 on Khlebnaya Square.
      Melzavod in Syzran.
      Shipyard in Samara.
      Broiler poultry farm in Obsharovka, st. Bezenchuk.
      Broiler poultry farm, Art. Krotovka.
      During the raider seizure, the Press House was burned down in Samara.
      Institute "Grazhdanproekt" in the center of Samara - 600 employees.
      Hydroproject - 700 people.
      Orgenergostroy is a design institute, 850 people.
      Promzernoproekt - 600 people.
      Irrigation systems "Giprovodkhoz" - 600 people.
      Port elevator for storing 100 thousand tons of grain (NZ).
      Collective and state farms have been destroyed by 80–90 percent.
      Dairy, st. Chernorechenskaya.
      Meat processing plant at st. Nameless.
      The cable plant in Samara was sold to foreigners.
      Cable plant at st. Nameless.
      Plant "Metallurg" - produced metal for aircraft factories. Also sold to foreigners.
      A compound feed factory on Khlebnaya Square.
      Togliatti Azot - chemical fertilizers. Bankrupt since 2015
      Factory "Raid" - defense industry (mechanisms for submarines and devices).
      All-Union Experimental Institute "NII Podshipnik" - now there is a wholesale market and restaurants in it.
      Plant "Prodmash".
      Chisel plant, st. Ridge.
      Plant "Electroshield", Art. Krasnaya Glinka, sold to the Germans.
      The hippodrome was liquidated for high-rise buildings.
      The kpapan plant is on fire (dozens of offices parasitize on its body).
      And this is in one city, but what is within the entire country?
      1. Alf
        Alf 23 September 2020 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: Rosko
        Plant "Electroshield", Art. Krasnaya Glinka, sold to the Germans.

        French-Schneider.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 22 September 2020 14: 18
    0
    One of the oldest fish canning factories in the country has closed in Latvia. The company in Liepaja stopped working, the fish business was destroyed.

    To tears!
    1. Roman13579
      Roman13579 22 September 2020 14: 25
      +1
      the fish business has been destroyed.


      The main thing is that we thrive ..))



      1. Aag
        Aag 22 September 2020 20: 17
        0
        Quote: Roman13579
        the fish business has been destroyed.


        The main thing is that we thrive ..))




        Not everyone will understand your sarcasm ... (((
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 23 September 2020 22: 26
        +2
        Quote: Roman13579
        the fish business has been destroyed.


        The main thing is that we thrive ..))




        It's still cheap. How about $ 9.99 per pound (454 grams)? Although of course in America unemployment benefits are higher than salaries in the Russian Federation.
        By the way, smoked sardines (i.e. the same sprats) packed in jars in some kind of Baltic Limitrophy are sold in America under American brands, and depending on the brand and type of canned food (in water or ordinary oil or extra virgin olive oil), $ 2 - $ 3 per 100 gram (3 1/2 oz) jar. At the same time, there are Polish and Moroccan, and what kind of sardines are not found in American waters.
  • Freeman
    Freeman 22 September 2020 14: 32
    +7
    All the insolvency assets of the plant have been bought out by Trasta komercbanka since September 1, although the latter is itself in a state of bankruptcy.

    Meanwhile, the total debt of the plant is about 1 million euros, losses for the last year - 400 thousand euros. Will the bank, which itself is in a state of bankruptcy, be able to solve these problems and deal with the company's debts?

    I looked about this Trasta komercbanka - and what happened?
    - "Laundry" for money laundering and withdrawal, including from Russia.
    - And the "scheme" is
    OCCRP has published an extensive investigation into money laundering from Russia, where the bank is mentioned as the first point in the EU space where the withdrawn funds flowed.

    A number of banks and companies were involved in the illegal scheme, which acted according to a sophisticated method. Documentary fraudsters created the appearance of default of one of the companies on the debt guaranteed by a Russian commercial structure (or structures) headed by a citizen of Moldova. Obligations to repay the "debt", respectively, were transferred to these structures.

    Then the Moldovan courts, relying on forged or incomplete documents, recognized the “legality” of the claims and ordered the Russian structures to pay the “debt”. The route of any payment went through the Latvian Trasta Komercbanka, after which the money acquired a "legal appearance" and was calmly transferred throughout Europe.

    source: https://www.occrp.org/ru/daily/4842-trasta-komercbanka


    - Well, and the "savior", with the citizenship of the "promised land", when things fell into decay due to the crisis, he hurried in time and made his "little gesheft".
    What he told the "thrown suckers" (see the picture in the article) -
    Maya Krupnik goes to Tel Aviv with Igor Krupnik... 1 day
    Dear friends, we do not say goodbye, but say: "Goodbye!" Once again, we want to thank all our friends and acquaintances, business partners, employees of our Liepaja fish company. We fly away for a new life, new emotions and achievements We remember you and * love you! GOOD LUCK


    Shl. I think that * love - in this case, efmeism, replacing the Russian "obscene" verb, meaning a specific physical sexual action.
    ZY.ZY.
    Dear friends, we do not say goodbye, but say: "Goodbye!"



    wassat / sarcasm /
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 23 September 2020 08: 32
      -1
      ... when things have fallen into disrepair due to the crisis ...
      I believe that he turned to the government for help, I'm sure officially. On the basis of the same official refusal, GOT THE RIGHT to act as it should. Well, the puppet government does not need industry, it interferes. This is the problem. They (the Balts), if they do not lose their land already, will give the land to the IMF or someone else who will be "happy" to help them with loans. Obviously, Latvia is bankrupt.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 22 September 2020 16: 07
    +4
    Igor Krupnik, a businessman with Russian and Israeli citizenship
    / Began it all Labeled, who is living out his years perfectly in Germany. And the sprats were really good.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 22 September 2020 16: 31
    -1
    If almost all sprat factories were destroyed, then where did we get at least 2 types of sprat in the general store of the village of Pupki, Tver region? And in the city in Pyaterochka 2-3 types of sprats too ... Have you prepared it with the Holy Spirit? Well, if there is enough sprat even for the Tver wilderness, then don't give a damn about the Tribaltiysky factory ... But before all this belonged to the USSR ... and now the wealth is ruined
    1. Aag
      Aag 22 September 2020 20: 28
      +2
      Quote: Alexander X
      If almost all sprat factories were destroyed, then where did we get at least 2 types of sprat in the general store of the village of Pupki, Tver region? And in the city in Pyaterochka 2-3 types of sprats too ... Have you prepared it with the Holy Spirit? Well, if there is enough sprat even for the Tver wilderness, then don't give a damn about the Tribaltiysky factory ... But before all this belonged to the USSR ... and now the wealth is ruined

      Look more closely at the cans (packaging). Kaliningrad (maybe someone else) produces sprats, including with the image of Riga on the packaging, names like "Old Riga" ... (Irkutsk supermarkets offer in particular).
      Not to reproach you, I understand that even under the USSR, not all regions were equally supplied with fish products - I can sometimes identify Latvian sprats by sight. For taste, for sure. "Genetic" memory, so to speak ...
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 22 September 2020 19: 35
    +7
    Under the USSR, the entire vast country traveled on Riga electric trains and diesel trains,
    so that the Latvian SSR would skate like cheese in butter, prosper at the expense of the entire USSR.
    Now, apart from the mediocre "Riga Balsam", nothing is released.
    Let them choke to the point of opupeniya, the EU banned them sprats.

    So to hell with them, they themselves asked ... was it all - and this plant, and the VEF, and the RAF, and the merchant, and the fishing fleet, and light industry.

    And then they got used to parasitizing on Ross. and Belarusian exports and transit through the Soviet ports that came to them

    Let them drink their balm for joy - which no one needs either.
    They returned to their native primitive state - beggars, occupied and vicious outskirts of Europe.
  • Alf
    Alf 22 September 2020 19: 52
    +5
    Riga sprats are gone - grief. But much more woe is that the only ashtray maker has gone.
    I hope the Gobies in the tomato will fill the holy place.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 22 September 2020 22: 07
      +5
      Quote: Alf
      Riga sprats are gone - grief. But much more woe is that the only manufacturer of ashtrays is gone.
      I hope, Gobies in tomato will fill the holy place.


      Alas, this place in Russia has been firmly occupied since the 90s. sad
      1. Alf
        Alf 22 September 2020 22: 19
        +4
        You are right, the capacity is much more.
  • sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 22 September 2020 19: 55
    +4
    Well, to be honest, we lost Rybka - it's bad, it's a pity, but this year in Liepaja we have expanded the production of 2 factories, the premises of another expanding one are being completed, and if the second wave does not hit, they will start building a new building of one more factory. A brand new factory has just started working, they are producing something for diving. Not everything is so bad, although "Rybka" is very sorry. recourse
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 September 2020 06: 25
    0
    Yes, Latvians, what have you come to. I don’t know how anyone, but after visiting Latvia during the Soviet era, I have the most pleasant memories and photographs about Riga, Jurmala and many other things. One of the Dome Cathedral is worth something. And now I do not feel sorry for you at all, you have turned into rednecks who themselves flee from their own country and live on pitiful handouts from Geyropa. And the handouts will end, and I have no doubt that they will end, the striped ones will try in this regard, and .... what will you do?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 September 2020 07: 41
    +1
    And here is the sad result - an enterprise with a huge history and thousands of tons of products sold is closed. As its owner emphasizes, on the empty territory there are only guards, and even then the guards come from Riga.
    Everything is natural. good they thought Europa was playing giveaway with them? laughing lol wassat
  • APASUS
    APASUS 23 September 2020 09: 06
    0
    Where is this storyteller Alvis07 (Alvis) 20 September 2020 13:57 ? I'd like to hear about another success of Riga
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 23 September 2020 09: 59
    +3
    If we talk about sprats, then the cooking technology is mutilated beyond recognition. I do not even understand the names like "Saury with the addition of oil". I still remember this type of canned food for 58 kopecks. And the smell and taste. In our country there are all types of fish. And on the counter we see crooked pink salmon for 170 rubles. Entering the Magnet, you feel the slogan "Eat what they give." We only read about sturgeon breeds. Even river fish cannot be skilfully used for canned food. But in the 50s there was nowhere to go from them.
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 September 2020 19: 33
      +3
      Quote: nikvic46
      cooking technology is mutilated beyond recognition.

      Optimized.
      And again about the birds. In the same Auchan, in their series B, they release their canned fish every day. Frankly speaking, these canned foods are VERY similar.
  • Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 23 September 2020 11: 51
    +1
    Bibas raibas came to Latvian sprats.
  • Esso
    Esso 24 September 2020 09: 08
    +1
    Here is a sad end, although Guriev said that the economy is independent from Russia, but dependent on Europe. Economic growth in the Baltics. Rather negative growth. The Balts will scream or the wines of Russia and we and Europe will open a new production, only on paper.
  • pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
    pyc.arpeccop tornado 150 24 September 2020 11: 16
    +1
    Russians in Latvia in Russia have an eternal visa-free regime. Those who wanted to have left long ago.
    Are we experiencing how another poz could not warm his ass on the smoldering pot of a destroyed state and will now do it under the sun?
    And then why not rejoice at the naval parade organized in honor of the centenary of Latvia, in which NATO ships participated?
  • Uve bjørnsson
    Uve bjørnsson 24 September 2020 22: 52
    0
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Quote: Roman13579
    Our ZIL plant, too, with almost a hundred-year history was ... and closed a long time ago ... without any coronaviruses ...
    This is REAL Russophobia ..

    And AZLK (for the uninitiated, Moskvich)?, And the car IZH?
    Here administrators / moderators are chuckling me like a foreigner, but I ... about latitudes and sprat ...
    When you come to Riga, you find yourself in another world. Did any of you writers travel from Riga to Jelgava? Have you been to Dobele 1 or Dobele 2 from Jelgava?
    This and that, you have not seen anything in your life and do not know, and perhaps you have never eaten sprats in your life. I feel sorry for you, writers / Russians (dear) ...
    Fuck live and pasestsa Belarusian bird busel !!!

    Another world, you say?
    In ANY capital of the world, people live much better than in the periphery.
    Riga, Dobele?
    Also mention Ventspils, a typical Potemkin mega-village, ransacked by the corrupt mayor of many years for show, Trubas-Aivars.
    Let's see Latgale, Rezekne, Balvi, Aluksne, Vilyaka, Karsava, Kraslava, etc.
    There the picture is sharply negative, the most natural die out, here is a "success story" for you (as one not very smart prime minister Dombrovskis blurted out).
    As one colleague from England said, yes, we do not have as many exclusive cars per unit of time in London as you do in Riga.
    Is this an indicator?
    Although yes, it is an indicator of total theft, machinations and scams of the "successful" and those in power.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 25 September 2020 12: 49
      0
      ".. IN ANY capital of the countries of the world, people live much better than on the periphery ...." Yes, nope ... In Rome they live worse than in Milan, Turin, Genoa or in Aosta, in Paris, worse than in Nice or Strasbourg, and Berlin is worse than Frankfurt, Munich, Karlruhe or Garmisch :)
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 25 September 2020 07: 41
    0
    It's nice to hear that, honestly.
  • The gentleman
    The gentleman 25 September 2020 12: 48
    +1
    this is the beginning of the collapse of the EU. I was always sure that it was the "weak countries" that would be the first to leave. I was a little mistaken))) England did it first, but it will get worse and with beautiful slogans about United Europe no one can keep. when the people will be with nothing, while realizing that it will not be better, then discontent will begin)))
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 25 September 2020 13: 45
      0
      I will support +. I wonder will
    2. aries2200
      aries2200 28 September 2020 19: 56
      0
      but they will not fall apart ... at the expense of the province of the EU will crawl into economic growth. dreaming about collapse = useful.
  • aries2200
    aries2200 28 September 2020 19: 55
    0
    but what do we care about the Latvian economy, let the EU worry ... and the business of some Jew is for the Israeli Knessed .... they are burning with fire, the fascists are not killed