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In the United States noted the insufficient number of bombers to break through the air defense of Kaliningrad

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In the United States noted the insufficient number of bombers to break through the air defense of Kaliningrad

In the event of a war with Russia, the American Air Force will need a much larger number of bombers than is currently in service in order to successfully break through the Kaliningrad anti-aircraft system. This was stated by the military analyst at the Center for Military and Political Power at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Shane Preiswater, writes Defense One.


The expert expressed the opinion that in the "era of competition between great powers" the United States needs to have at least 225 bombers in service to oppose Russia and China, and not 140, as at present. The expert was also not satisfied with the pace of deliveries of new bombers to the US Air Force. According to him, by 2040 the fleet will increase to only 175 copies.

Even though the United States has bases and allies in the region, the huge amount of countermeasures required, for example, to defeat the integrated air defense system of Kaliningrad, will require significant participation of bombers.

- he said.

Presewater added that strategic bombers also have a significant role to play in a possible war with China. The expert predicts that "stealth" bombers will be able to penetrate into protected areas of China, and conventional strategists will be important at the beginning of hostilities for use out of reach of Chinese air defenses.
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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra 21 September 2020 08: 47
    32
    In the spring and fall, schizophrenics become more active. So he thought what would happen when 255 bombers approached the borders of the Russian Federation? !!! Kaliningrad will be sharply equal for everyone:
    1. figwam
      figwam 21 September 2020 08: 49
      21
      to defeat the integrated air defense system of Kaliningrad, will require significant participation of bombers

      I didn't understand this declaration of war?
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 21 September 2020 08: 55
        +5
        is this a declaration of war?

        No, corporations need a lot of money, a lot, well ... at least ... for ... a couple of hundred strategic bombers.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 21 September 2020 16: 45
          +1
          Otherwise, Boeing will bend completely.
          Almost everything stopped civil production.
          1. mvg
            mvg 21 September 2020 19: 55
            -4
            Almost everything stopped civil production

            Exactly. Just think 700+ aircraft per year, with a total order book of 5000+ Where is the Russian Federation at a rate of 4 aircraft per year. These are only civilians. Not counting the F-15EX.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 22 September 2020 10: 51
              0
              The materiel must be taught:
              https://www.interfax.ru/business/721333
              https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4220561
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 21 September 2020 09: 01
        +6
        Yes, yes, and a much larger number of airfields (since their total number will immediately begin to decrease, radically !!!), the number of pilots, maintenance personnel ... because all this will sharply decrease as soon as possible !!! because the answer will fly, fly ...
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 21 September 2020 11: 57
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          ... and a much larger number of airfields

          Hello Victor.
          But much more - the US military structure is already the main threat to our ball (the second most important is the Yellowstone volcano, and the third is a new comet in the solar system).
      3. nnm
        nnm 21 September 2020 09: 44
        +7
        What are you, colleague! It's all but just teaching us democracy from employees
        Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

        It's just that we do not appreciate the efforts of these doves of peace!
        It is known, however, that the modern defense of democracy can only be located on the suspension points of strategic bombers.
      4. Ryusey
        Ryusey 21 September 2020 10: 06
        -9
        But if so, what will you do personally?
      5. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 21 September 2020 11: 18
        -2
        I didn't understand this declaration of war?


        No. These are the fantasies of yet another utter, ready to kill, but not ready to die.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 21 September 2020 08: 57
      +6
      Quote: Cowbra
      in the fall, schizophrenics become more active

      Nothing personal. Elections on the nose! repeat It is necessary to show who is the savior of the nation. There is no time for a little war, so at least rattle your bones. request
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 September 2020 09: 13
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      In the spring and autumn, schizophrenics become more active.

      unfortunately, this is not schizophrenia, but preparation for war
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 21 September 2020 09: 39
        -7
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Cowbra
        In the spring and autumn, schizophrenics become more active.

        unfortunately, this is not schizophrenia, but preparation for war

        as soon as the money starts, children are returned from abroad en masse, then there may be a war. otherwise, no.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 September 2020 09: 42
          +1
          and why are children here?
        2. your1970
          your1970 21 September 2020 21: 53
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Cowbra
          In the spring and autumn, schizophrenics become more active.

          unfortunately, this is not schizophrenia, but preparation for war

          as soon as the money starts, children are returned from abroad en masse, then there may be a war. otherwise, no.

          if suddenly the war, then their candy wrappers and our ruble will cost ... well, in general, they will not cost anything in principle ..
          Therefore, it will be pointless to spin money in the event of an impending war from there - what's the point in cut paper, especially in server zeros ...
    4. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 21 September 2020 10: 35
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      In the spring and fall, schizophrenics become more active. So he thought what would happen when 255 bombers approached the borders of the Russian Federation? !!! Kaliningrad will be sharply equal for everyone:

      Yes, yes, that's how it will be. As we poisoned 41 Germans with mustard gas, as soon as we climbed across the border, everyone was flooded with gas, and that we were saving up chemical weapons in vain. And here it will be the same as soon as Yao poke at them!
    5. YOUR
      YOUR 22 September 2020 05: 31
      0
      Just a clarification. The United States has 150 strategic bombers in service.
      20 - V-2A, 60 - V-1V and 70 - B-52.
      It is not clear where you got 225 bombers from.
      The rest, especially the aggravation in some individuals, is true. Everybody dreams like we’re going to blow and live.
      We would read about Legasov, how he practically saved the world, well, maybe not the whole world, but Ukraine and Belarus, and part of Europe. And only Chernobyl and no nuclear explosions.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 September 2020 05: 44
        +1
        They say we need 255 bombers, then we will break through the air defense of Kaliningrad. And I said that they will not break through - it will not be until Kaliningrad.
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 22 September 2020 05: 52
          +1
          They are experts. They plan, estimate, the salary is not paid just like that.
          Consider using in landfill conditions.
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 September 2020 08: 48
    +4
    "For the confrontation between Russia and China, the United States needs to have 225 bombers in service at least, not 140 as at present."
    By that time, the air defense and missile defense systems of Russia and China will not be the same.
    However, the arms race is a race.
    As long as it is beneficial to someone, the race will continue.
  3. svp67
    svp67 21 September 2020 08: 53
    +4
    "Give money ... Give" ... And then there are not enough "toys".
    So who is hatching plans of conquest?
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 21 September 2020 13: 25
      0
      Quote: svp67
      So who is hatching plans of conquest?

      So after all, it was said above - “the most democratic“ doves of the world ”on Earth.” Will they hang olive branches on their vigorous bombs or not? And will bomb carriers flying out to destroy hundreds of thousands and millions of lives by the names of their mothers?

      The same Enola Gay, the mother of the pilot who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. Not to say that outwardly the most good-natured old woman - there is something wolfish in her grin ...
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 21 September 2020 15: 55
        +1
        This is with us, in the USSR, the discharge of nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
        was regarded as an inhuman act. In Japan itself
        this act is officially considered a blessing - the only opportunity
        stop the "rabid military". And deliverance.
        So the anniversary of the attack is not celebrated there, of course,
        but grieve, remembering the USA with gratitude.
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 September 2020 08: 53
    -4
    What for? Near the sea .... and destroyers and cruisers with Tomahawks .... and a bunch of tactical aircraft in Europe and bases around Kaliningrad.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 21 September 2020 16: 33
      +1
      By the way, yes ... my uncle thinks in terms of World War II ... or Vietnam .. Why send such a lot of bombers somewhere, if at first the missiles will fly anyway? Destroy the same air defense .. And then - in the article itself, what does it say? That six B-52s are clearly not enough for Kaliningrad? Did they count the number of missiles in the S-400 salvo? Or what you could count? Well, that's why Sergei Kuzhugetovich does not want to complain in some media about the fact that he lacks our Strategic nuclear submarines, they say, a small piece of Alaska cannot be covered with high quality? .. It would be interesting to hear howling from across the ocean .. And you it is not clear why the cons were drawn ... for the obvious stupidity of the American ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 21 September 2020 16: 47
        +1
        There are many forces and resources in Europe. On the seas, too, the Russian Federation does not command. The air defense and the rest of the armament of Kaliningrad will only give the mainland forces a certain amount of time to connect with the enclave and, perhaps, also cover the air defense with an umbrella and impede the movement of the ground forces of the BR from Iskander. They will amaze bridges, warehouses, airfields, radars.
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 21 September 2020 20: 32
          0
          Well, like me about the same thing .. the local hats are silent about how the British behave .. this is already a completely unprecedented situation -28 RAF aircraft were seen in the Black Sea region and off the coast of the Kola Peninsula. In the sky, Typhoon, Voyager tanker aircraft, Sentinel reconnaissance and strike control aircraft, RC-135 strategic reconnaissance aircraft and Boeing E-3 Sentry early warning aircraft were identified ... 28! this is not counting the Americans who graze in our Arctic and the Far East already, as in their own backyard .. And here everyone is measured with wit ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 21 September 2020 21: 57
            -1
            Quote: Dikson
            28! this is not counting the Americans who graze in our Arctic and the Far East, as in their own backyard .. And here everyone is measured with wit ...

            And before the U-2 flew diagonally through the USSR, and what? Nevertheless, they did not start a nuclear war because of this ...
            And Stalin forgave the bombed-out Sukhaya River and did not start the war either
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 22 September 2020 06: 12
              0
              Well yeah ... Do you still believe in nuclear war? Let it not be .. Now in power in the world businessmen and traders, not politicians .. Why did the United States get scared of a little Korean with a primitive nuclear missile? Because he is not a huckster, but a politician. Another system is building. And now he can really bang on the Americans. And Russia is a grenade of the same system as our alleged enemy .. And this means that there are items of bargaining, sale and purchase. "partnership" .. Therefore, further threats from our side will never go .. U-2 flew as long as they could not get it ... But there will be a conventional war. And you and I will definitely live to see her ...
              1. your1970
                your1970 22 September 2020 10: 14
                0
                You did not understand me - U-2 was flying - it was a completely legitimate reason for a retaliatory strike. Nevertheless, despite the absence of oligarchs and children abroad, ours were afraid to answer for a brazen violation of borders
                Well, Gaddafi with Hussein and Milosevic on hearing
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 September 2020 08: 54
    +1
    Well, add impudently, shake the Poles, and scrape the Japanese, that's enough for a bun. repeat
  6. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 21 September 2020 08: 55
    +2
    Wet dreams of a preoccupied teenager ..
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 21 September 2020 08: 57
    +8
    This was stated by the military analyst at the Center for Military and Political Power at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Shane Preisewater,

    Cool, dermocracy is necessary to defend !!!
    Judging by the events taking place in the world, it is from HER that everyone who has not yet been dermocratized completely is forced to defend themselves.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 September 2020 10: 56
      +3
      Uh-huh, if their "democracy" is not stopped, the slave system will return ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 September 2020 11: 29
        +4
        The United States needs to have at least 225 bombers in service to oppose Russia, and not 140,
        even according to the calculations of this idiot, 85 planes are already guaranteed (three crew members each) in total - 195 "fine American guys" must dig out their own grave in advance and celebrate the funeral with their relatives?
        By the way, how many flight schools are there in the USA? Enough?
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 September 2020 11: 35
          +3
          Quote: Terenin

          By the way, how many flight schools are there in the USA?


          This is a military "secret" lol Greetings! hi
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 21 September 2020 11: 40
            +5
            Quote: cniza
            Quote: Terenin

            By the way, how many flight schools are there in the USA?


            This is a military "secret" lol Greetings! hi

            Greetings Victor hi
            Well, yes, they will put the Ukrainian ones, there are still no planes there.
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 September 2020 11: 51
              +4
              I am not an expert in these matters, but it seems to me that the B-52 pilot is a piece goods and they do not become so quickly, and there are not enough pilots in Ukraine anyway ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 September 2020 12: 02
                +2
                You can teach ... though not everyone, the language barrier is serious!
                And so, everything was extremely normal, with technically competent specialists ... though it was THEN, and now it is certainly not so, much poorer.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 21 September 2020 12: 18
                  +4
                  You can teach it, but it takes time and money ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 21 September 2020 12: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: cniza
                    You can teach it, but it takes time and money ...

                    Also brains, not shaken up. With this, it will also become poorer, from year to year!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 21 September 2020 12: 30
                      +4
                      Yes, brains are becoming scarce, especially in politics ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 September 2020 12: 40
                        +1
                        Even in troops that are stupid motivated, it is usually not enough for long, if they have the same commanders!
                        And with sophisticated military equipment, there is a contingent with specific training needed and this is not jumping in the squares, there and DIFFERENT knowledge is needed!
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 21 September 2020 13: 04
                        +4
                        Yes, without a brain and computerization will not help, but it can lead to disaster ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 September 2020 13: 19
                        +1
                        Only in blacks charging to go ... but there are certain physical. conditions are needed, at the computer in shooters, this will not work.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 21 September 2020 13: 30
          0
          Quote: Terenin
          Well, yes they will put Ukrainian, there are still no planes.

          And kerosene one way. And also a glass of sake before departure (a glass of vodka) and "Banzai!" ("Glory to Ukraine!")...
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 21 September 2020 11: 58
    +1
    The skin may be different, but underneath it is the same BEAST!
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 September 2020 12: 17
      +2
      That's just the point, today their "democracy" has turned into a destructive force for everything and everyone around ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 September 2020 12: 32
        +1
        "dermocracy" in their understanding, about which Roosevelt directly explained to Stalin, carries destruction for everyone except them !!! although for them, in the end, the same threat, final.
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 September 2020 12: 36
          +2
          Then yes, but now it will also send them downhill soon ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 September 2020 12: 42
            +1
            Yeah, they've got things to do!
            But for us this is just extra time for PREPARATION !!! who knows how it will all turn out there!
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 September 2020 13: 05
              +2
              On the one hand, yes, we have more time, but on the other, their condition threatens everyone.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 September 2020 13: 21
                +1
                Here, here, uncertainty, this is such a state ... unpleasant! there and to the critical one step!
  • Lester7777
    Lester7777 21 September 2020 09: 05
    +2
    Actually, one is enough. In order to come in response.
  • set of sets
    set of sets 21 September 2020 09: 41
    +4
    The greater the perceived superiority in weapons, the greater the chances of starting a war.
    It was not in vain that Putin boasted of hypersound, and also showed the practical range of "calibers".
    Apparently, someone still can't wait to smash our planet into the trash.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 21 September 2020 13: 56
      0
      Quote: set of sets
      Apparently, someone still can't wait to smash our planet into the trash.

      I remembered L. Filatov

      What d .... to - don't blame me!
      I have a different essence!
      I’ll have to attack somewhere.
      Al to storm kudy someday! ..
      America's trouble is Hollywood and the confidence in its own "exclusivity." They had been drummed for so many years that they single-handedly won the Second World War, that they almost single-handedly defeated Hitler - America itself believed it. And the current American generals lack the scope of the "feat" of their grandfathers, who destroyed Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and much more. Well, how can you compare the American fighting enthusiasm in Hiroshima and some Songmi? There is, of course, and now where to populate - but the "scale" is not the same ... But globally, so that generations of Americans in centuries to be considered their heroes - yes! Here playful little hands itch. Until they were hit.

      I have not seen the "burning Smolensk and the burning Reichstag" - the age is not the same. Even my father was born after the war. But my grandfather and great-grandfather saw. And not only Smolensk. And what the Motherland is on fire, I know at the genetic level. And if America has seen a war, it is a civil war, and for a long time - not the same scope. They would at least once fight for their country, and not "for democracy" - they would understand a lot.
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 21 September 2020 09: 51
    +3
    Dear readers - do not "escalate" yourself.
    This is just the opinion of the "forwarder", which has nothing to do with the official opinion.
    We have enough similar "hawks" out of touch with reality.

    To react to every schizophrenic - health is not enough.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 21 September 2020 11: 43
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      To react to every schizophrenic - health is not enough.

      Well, here, and I already dug a bunker two meters belay
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 September 2020 09: 53
    +3
    They already talk about the war as about something everyday. But to attack - there are not enough bombers, and the Russians themselves are not going to surrender. It's time for the Americans to apply Soviet slogans: "Everything for the front, everything for victory" and of course "Komsomolets (American) on the plane!" This is no longer just a disease called Russophobia, it is a progressive cancer.
    1. Ryusey
      Ryusey 21 September 2020 10: 05
      0
      No, this is a purposeful preparation of the nation for war and no more.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 21 September 2020 10: 35
        0
        What is NO? I kind of wrote in Russian
        They already talk about the war as about something everyday.
        What do you disagree with?
  • Ryusey
    Ryusey 21 September 2020 10: 07
    -1
    When the bombers take off, it will be too late to drink Borjomi ...
  • Ryusey
    Ryusey 21 September 2020 10: 11
    -5
    Nothing in the world changes, there are those who want and start wars, there are those who understand, prepare and defend themselves, and there are those who believe nothing and die one of the first. This world needs cleaning for a long time ... and soon it is coming.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 21 September 2020 11: 45
      +2
      Quote: Ryusey
      Nothing in the world changes, there are those who want and start wars, there are those who understand, prepare and defend themselves, and there are those who believe nothing and die one of the first. This world needs cleaning for a long time ... and soon it is coming.

      What category did you put yourself in?
  • unhappy
    unhappy 21 September 2020 10: 28
    0
    Again, I ask the question, does the expert know that there is a high probability of civil war in his homeland? Bomb carriers are not required there; carts are used there like those of barmaley tongue
    1. Ryusey
      Ryusey 21 September 2020 11: 02
      0
      Are you aware that a hypothetical civil war is in no way connected with the possibility of a nuclear strike, rather the opposite.
      1. unhappy
        unhappy 22 September 2020 08: 04
        0
        You do not see the connection between the combat readiness of the nuclear triad and the country burning in the flames of civil war belay
        According to the plan, despite the explosions, shooting in the streets and crowds of "maidanuts", American factories are building strategic bombers ... fool
  • iouris
    iouris 21 September 2020 10: 49
    0
    Why break through the air defense of Kaliningrad? What determines the urgency of this problem?
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 September 2020 10: 54
      +5
      So that Congress would fork out and no more ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 September 2020 11: 49
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        So that Congress would fork out and no more ...

        Yes, for that kind of money, all the US Air Forces will drink in Kaliningrad for three years, without any problems drinks
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 September 2020 11: 52
          +3
          The owners of the US military-industrial complex will thump, and everyone else will envy them. drinks yes
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 21 September 2020 10: 56
      0
      Quote: iouris
      What determines the urgency of this problem?

      Very denyuzhek want!
      1. iouris
        iouris 21 September 2020 12: 56
        -1
        They will print as much money as they need. It is surprising that the imperialists are preparing for a real war, while their adversary only laughs or thinks about money. Good opponent.
    3. Moore
      Moore 21 September 2020 11: 17
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Why break through the air defense of Kaliningrad? What determines the urgency of this problem?

      Well then ...
      It was necessary to dot everything "Ё":
      - to disavow the whining of the Poles and Balts about the bloodthirsty plans of Mordor to begin seizing the adjacent territories and break through the Suwalki corridor to Kaliningrad;
      -explain to all boobies that the war is not going to start some mythical eastern aggressors, but the most democratic representatives of the "free world".
    4. Avior
      Avior 21 September 2020 15: 39
      0
      the invention of an anonymous author.
      in the original article about something completely different - about the need for Americans by 2050, in addition to expensive B-21s, to have other, cheaper bombers
    5. Avior
      Avior 21 September 2020 15: 40
      0
      the invention of an anonymous author.
      in the original article about something completely different - about the need for Americans by 2050, in addition to expensive B-21s, to have other, cheaper bombers
  • cniza
    cniza 21 September 2020 10: 53
    +3
    According to him, by 2040 the fleet will increase to only 175 copies.


    All this - give me money and no more ...
  • viktor.
    viktor. 21 September 2020 10: 56
    +1
    These ghouls talk like they are about to attack Mongolia! They should be put into a corner for their thoughts in Rumor!
    1. Ryusey
      Ryusey 21 September 2020 11: 03
      0
      Get started, we will support if anything is possible
    2. iouris
      iouris 21 September 2020 14: 00
      -1
      These ghouls must rob us once again, otherwise they have a khan.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 September 2020 11: 06
    0
    Not smart people in the USA will still threaten the world, even if their White House is on fire. (Not my quote, yesterday) No.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 21 September 2020 12: 16
    +1
    Here is the American answer to the Tu-160 record.
  • zwlad
    zwlad 21 September 2020 13: 28
    +1
    And what are all 140 well or 225 will trample through Kaliningrad?
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 21 September 2020 14: 14
    +1
    Expert Shane is going on a trip to Kaliningrad. Just like in the song: "Baron von der Pschik has long been going to eat Russian fat and dreamed of ..."
  • Avior
    Avior 21 September 2020 15: 32
    0
    Well it is necessary to print such nonsense.
    In the original article, the author asks the question, what if all the B-2050s are written off by 52, then the B-21s alone may not be enough due to their price, so he proposes to add the cheap NGSBs proposed to them, possibly in an unmanned version.
    A set of general considerations in general.
    Kaliningrad is mentioned in passing, as an example of an air defense zone, the article is generally about something else.
    https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2020/09/air-force-needs-new-non-stealthy-bomber/168593/
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 21 September 2020 15: 48
    +1
    laughing They are not exactly KU.KU.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 21 September 2020 15: 51
    0
    "The USA noted the insufficient number of bombers to break through the air defense of Kaliningrad"
    - In America itself, Washington and New York - with bare ... opoy (with insufficient air defense), and they gathered in Kaliningrad! Losses will outweigh all "benefits"! Wake up, Yankees!
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 21 September 2020 19: 39
    0
    Are they woodpeckers or what?)))))))))))))) They will not have enough 225 bombers, or do they want to hammer Europe? !!!
    ps how boring it is, Westerners are looking for an option how to get money.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 September 2020 20: 09
    +1
    I wonder how many crews will they be able to sign for this case after the first wave of the bombing? The consumer's ideology does not provide for heroic death for the glory of his country.