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WWII submarine Grenadier discovered at the bottom of the Strait of Malacca

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Divers still continue to find wrecks of submarines from the Second World War hidden under water. This time an interesting find was made in Southeast Asia.

The submarine was sunk by Japanese bombs


77 years ago, a large-scale confrontation between the American and Japanese armed forces unfolded in the Asia-Pacific region. During the fighting in the Pacific, the US Navy lost a large number of submarines. One of the missing submarines was the USS Grenadier.

On February 4, 1942, the USS Grenadier left Pearl Harbor for military patrols in Southeast Asian waters. The submarine conducted its first five patrols in the Taiwan area, the South China Sea and off the coast of Indonesia, sinking 6 enemy ships during this time.

On 20 March 1943, the submarine sailed from Fremantle in Australia on its sixth patrol in the Straits of Malacca. On the night of April 20, the submarine spotted two small cargo ships and set a course to intercept them. However, a Japanese plane was sighted in the morning. The submarine commander, Lieutenant Commander John A. Fitzgerald, gave the order to dive, but it was too late: bombs flew from the plane.

As a result, the submarine was flooded by the decision of the crew after damage caused by Japanese bombs. All 76 crew members survived the bombing and sinking, but were captured by the Japanese. Perhaps this was the worst thing that could happen to the sailors. They were beaten, tortured and starved to death for over 2 years before World War II ended with the defeat of Japan and the American prisoners of war were released. The four crew members did not survive the bullying in Japanese captivity.

Any disagreement with the guards led to strikes with the butt, kicks, and pricks with a bayonet. In the interrogation room, they could torture by pushing penknives under their fingernails. They tried to find out information about the submarine and other similar submarines from the sailors,

- recalled after the release of Fitzgerald.

No doubt about it: underwater - USS Grenadier


For a long time, no one could find traces of the USS Grenadier. However, then luck smiled at the divers. The submarine was discovered by Jean-Luc Rivoir and Benoit Labori - the French living in Singapore, as well as the Australian Lance Horowitz and the Belgian Ben Reimenants, who live on the island of Phuket in Thailand. The Belgian diver has been researching possible shipwrecks for many years.


After receiving information from local fishermen about a strange place, divers explored the seabed with sonar and found a suspicious object. Having dived to the bottom, the divers found that the object is much larger than expected. Further, the stage of archival work began: it was required to find out what kind of ships were wrecked in this area.

In the end, after a second dive to the bottom, the divers found that the USS Grenadier was almost XNUMX% under water.

The divers took measurements of the submarine resting at the bottom of the Strait of Malacca and compared them with the data on the American submarine.
The findings were sent to the US Navy Command's Underwater Archeology Division.

According to the head of the department, Dr. Robert Neiland, his employees usually receive 2-3 such requests a year from divers who discover sunken submarines or ships. But in order to establish that it really was a USS Grenadier, it may take at least a year of research work.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 21 September 2020 09: 05
    +6
    ECHO OF WAR!
    Finding the old, an honorable mission, necessary ...
    the main thing is not to produce new things!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 21 September 2020 10: 09
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      ECHO OF WAR!
      Finding the old, an honorable mission, necessary ...
      the main thing is not to produce new things!

      I want to digress a little from a purely historical theme, and throw a bridge from the past to the present.

      So in Norway, not so long ago, they found the final resting place of the German light cruiser Karlsruhe (of the Koenigsberg type) torpedoed by the British submarine Truant off the coast of Norway near the port of Kristiansand on April 9, 1940 during the invasion of Norway by the Third Reich. The ship was severely damaged and was sunk by its crew.
      For 80 years, the location of the remains of the cruiser was unknown and it was found only in June this year.
      The cruiser hull stands on an almost level keel at a depth of 490 meters, 15 meters from the power cable connecting Norway and Denmark. During its laying, the cruiser that sank very nearby was never found.do not care about similar procedures at home.

      The gas pipeline, of course, not a cable, but a cruiser with full explosive artillery cellars is also not a single bomb from the WWII era ...




      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 September 2020 10: 26
        +2
        Ours, as stated, that along the route of the pipeline, in the areas of the alleged flooding of something dangerous, everything was thoroughly checked! divers almost trampled everything on foot! The depths there are not great, of course, but such exploration work is not cheap.
        Believe it or not ... but with regard to the work carried out on the pipeline route, the control by the interested parties was not weak.
      2. hagrid
        hagrid 21 September 2020 11: 07
        +1
        with a cruiser is generally not clear. he was escorted by destroyers. and that no one has decided on the coordinates of where the ship rested?
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 21 September 2020 12: 58
        +4
        I don’t understand some people, even though you crack. They took and pushed cons, the question is to whom? You, "Königsberg" or the Norwegians? From the above, I can at least somehow understand the minus to the cruiser, the same fascist, but the rest ... laughing
        1. your1970
          your1970 21 September 2020 22: 02
          -1
          apparently power cable and devil-may-care attitude fellow lol
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 23 September 2020 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: Sea Cat
          They took and pushed cons, the question is to whom? You, "Königsberg" or the Norwegians?

          Do not hesitate to me. yes

          And something incomprehensible happened with the commentary. The electronic image of the cruiser at the bottom disappeared, and part of the text explaining the attitude of the West to Russia also disappeared ...
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 21 September 2020 09: 12
    +9
    Of the 76, four died. Yeah. The most cruel treatment.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 21 September 2020 09: 22
      13
      From the memoirs of John F. Kennedy: "We experienced inconvenience and deprivation - there was no instant coffee on the night watch!"
      1. Avior
        Avior 21 September 2020 10: 00
        19
        Kennedy was not taken into the army for health reasons.
        He, through pull, made sure to be taken, and then also through pull, achieved to be transferred from staff work to one of the most dangerous areas - he was the commander of a torpedo boat.
        When the boat sank a Japanese destroyer, Kennedy skillfully rescued the vast majority of the crew, and one of the wounded was dragged by swimming on a sore back, which he also hit during the Japanese attack, several hours to the nearest land.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 21 September 2020 10: 40
          +7
          It's all true, he was a leader, that's why he became president!
          Nobody belittles his personal courage.
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 21 September 2020 12: 44
        +2
        Hi Vladimir hi
        John, if I'm not mistaken, served on torpedo boats, was the commander. There was some kind of story with the future prime minister of Japan, he commanded a destroyer and TK Kennedy attacked him, but the Japanese turned away, rammed and drowned the boat in time and the entire American team swam to some island. I read about it for a long time and I don't remember exactly, but now it came up in my memory.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 21 September 2020 13: 25
          +1
          Konstantin hi A colleague of Avior above, described everything ... And so it was.
  3. Alien From
    Alien From 21 September 2020 09: 39
    +7
    All divers are brave people! May the sea keep them!
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 21 September 2020 09: 39
    +1
    Any disagreement with the guards led to strikes with the butt, kicks, and pricks with a bayonet. In the interrogation room, they could torture by pushing penknives under their fingernails. They tried to find out information about the submarine and other similar submarines from the sailors,
    It is still not involved in slave backbreaking work for wear, such as quarries and mines. Ours had a harder time in captivity. The statistics (4 deaths out of 76) speaks for themselves. I think the Americans with the prisoners were no more humane,
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 September 2020 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      This is still not involved in slave backbreaking work for wear, such as quarries and mines.

      There was simply no river Kwai nearby.
      And so ... the use of prisoners for work for wear and tear for the Japanese was the norm.
  5. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 21 September 2020 10: 01
    +4
    For a long time they will find ships, planes and the remains of soldiers. And I am sure they will not find everyone, the war will keep its secrets.
    Eternal rest to them.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 September 2020 10: 02
    +2
    indeed there was a USS Grenadier boat, it may take at least a year of research work
    The crew of the boat, about which they write, almost completely survived (with the exception of 4), so if they even found not this boat, it will help clarify the situation with other sailors who did not return to their bases and are considered missing.
  7. Captain45
    Captain45 21 September 2020 10: 22
    +1
    "- Listen, where did you get this from?
    - Echo of war! "(C) film" Brother-2 "
  8. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 September 2020 10: 34
    +2
    Rest, Lord, their souls.
    They gave their lives for a just cause.
  9. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 21 September 2020 11: 24
    +3

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rgo/vodolazy-nashli-14-podlodok-zatonuvshih-vo-vremia-velikoi-otechestvennoi-v-baltike-5cd2ce89ba577c00b3dac233
    The reconnaissance and diving team of Konstantin Bogdanov is looking for sunken submarines. For 15 years, thanks to their project "Bow to the Ships of the Great Victory", they managed to find out the fate of more than 700 submariners. Over 15 years we have discovered or identified 16 submarines

    Gulf of Finland, the site of the mass death of Soviet submarines when trying to break through the barrage.
    Only seeing this map, you understand what it was like for the brothers to go to the breakthrough along the bay when it is known that more than one submarine has disappeared there.
    Everlasting memory...
    1. Operator
      Operator 21 September 2020 11: 35
      +1
      Some have completely lost their memory - here on VO two "eccentrics" are drowned for +100500 submarines in the sea with dumplings called Baltika, Chernoe, then everywhere (we do not have a PGRK type and is not expected) bully
    2. Serg koma
      Serg koma 21 September 2020 12: 50
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich

      Only seeing this map, you understand what it was like for the brothers to go to the breakthrough along the bay when it is known that more than one submarine has disappeared there.
      Everlasting memory...

      Eternal memory .... http://uwex.org/media/
  10. Catfish
    Catfish 21 September 2020 13: 24
    +5
    American submarines sunk over 250 warships, including: battleships - 1, aircraft carriers - 13, cruisers - 13, destroyers - 38 and submarines - 22.

    Nevertheless, the Americans lost 52 submarines: in 1942 - 8; in 1943–17; in 1944-19 and in eight months of 1945 - 8 boats. Most of them were sunk by Japanese surface ships.

    During the entire war in the Pacific Ocean, 1150 Japanese merchant ships with a total displacement of about 4 tons were sunk by submarines of the American fleet, which is about 860% of the total losses.
    Significant losses of the Japanese merchant and navy as a result of the actions of American submarines were caused primarily by weak anti-submarine defense in the Japanese fleet and, secondly, by the fact that the combat activity of the submarines took place in the conditions of the superiority of the American naval and air forces in the Pacific ocean over japanese forces.

    In the end, American submarines inflicted great damage on the Japanese economy, merchant shipping, and the navy. Their activities significantly influenced the course of combat operations of the fleet and aviation in the Pacific Ocean.

    The Americans were our allies and contributed to the victory over the common enemy. Eternal and kind memory to brothers in arms, even if only for that short time. soldier
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 21 September 2020 15: 42
      +2
      American submarines sunk over
      ,,, Uncle Kostya forgot the train. They still derailed the train smile
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 21 September 2020 16: 08
        +2
        Hello, Sergey. hi Something like that vaguely emerges from the depths of memory, but you'd better remind yourself how it happened.
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 21 September 2020 17: 03
          +1

          Flag of a submarine with an honored Japanese steam locomotive.
          ,,, in the area of ​​the village of Otasamu (now the village of Firsovo in the Dolinsky district of the Sakhalin region) trains regularly ran along the railway, and the captain had a daring idea to conduct a sabotage on the Japanese coast before the boat returned, which was successfully done on the night of July 23 1945
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 21 September 2020 17: 42
            +3
            Seryozha, thank you. And what does this all kinds of symbolism mean, you do not know? Very interesting. By the way, there was also a badge with the symbols of the Reich, to whom did they overkil?
            1. bubalik
              bubalik 21 September 2020 18: 52
              +3
              what ,,, as if I did not delve into this topic.
              each American boat had its own "submarine battle flag". At the same time, despite the variety, many of them, like the British, included standard symbols denoting the merits of the boat in submarine warfare.

              Usually in the center of the flag of the submarine was an image of its emblem, and around it were displayed symbols of victories and merit. Among such symbols were, for example, the military and trade flags of Japan, which respectively designated the sunken warships and transport ships of this country. The flags of the German Navy, depicted on the Submarine Battle Flag, tell of the sinking of German ships. If half of the enemy flag was depicted on the “flag of submarine battles”, it means that the enemy ship was damaged, but not sunk. Images of a torpedo or a gun told how exactly the enemy ships were sunk.

              By boat and captain: The Joint Army-Naval Evaluation Committee, which provided the final official figures for WWII submarine attacks, credited him with the destruction of 95 tonnes of Japanese ships, the highest for an American submarine commander.
              The military authorities credited him with the sinking of 16 Japanese ships and with two other captains in the 17th sinking, the fourth-largest US submarine commander in World War II.

              In September 1944, "Barb" sank 20.000 tons of the Japanese aircraft carrier "Una" and 11000 tons of a Japanese tanker in one torpedo salvo.
              Rear Admiral Eugene B. Flucky, one of America's most daring submarine commanders of WWII and recipient of the Medal of Honor, has passed away in 2007.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 21 September 2020 19: 00
                +2
                Clear. smile But still, I wonder what German he crashed, after all, not a transport.
            2. bubalik
              bubalik 21 September 2020 19: 01
              +1
              badge with symbols
              ,,, who fought against? The submarine was in the Atlantic and carried out sabotage operations in North Africa. So it is said that only the Japanese were drowned.
              And the ecort aircraft carrier is bullshit belay ?
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 21 September 2020 19: 18
                +3
                The escort isn't bullshit, but still not Shinano. smile
                1. bubalik
                  bubalik 21 September 2020 19: 31
                  +1
                  The submariners also sunk. wink
                  Here is their flag, USS Archerfish (SS-311)
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 21 September 2020 19: 39
                    +2
                    Yes, the submariners sank, I read Enright's book about the campaign and the sinking of this aircraft carrier.
                    Listen, what is that boat in the lower right corner of the flag? And what do the letters PF on the lower torpedo mean, what kind of box of 800 tons?
                    1. bubalik
                      bubalik 21 September 2020 19: 52
                      +2
                      box in 800

                      ,,, torpedoed and sank the Japanese corvette Kaibokan.
                      Boat-rescued one downed pilot.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 21 September 2020 20: 54
                        +2
                        Yeah, everything is clear ... That's why I'm looking at some kind of clipper boat, not a target for a submarine.
                    2. bubalik
                      bubalik 21 September 2020 20: 06
                      +2
                      ,,, if you're interested, look.
                    3. saygon66
                      saygon66 21 September 2020 20: 07
                      +2
                      - Off the coast of Iwo Jima, I rescued the pilot Ensign (Warrant Officer) John B. Anderson ...
                    4. saygon66
                      saygon66 21 September 2020 20: 26
                      +2
                      PF - patrol fleet ... Patrol fleet. The sunken "kaibokan" was a coastal defense / anti-submarine ship.
                      1. bubalik
                        bubalik 21 September 2020 21: 16
                        +1
                        Thank you, informative good
            3. saygon66
              saygon66 21 September 2020 19: 39
              +1
              - This is an amateur crew of the USS "Barb", a submarine of the "Gato" class. Commanders: Lt. Commander John Randolph Waterman, Eugene "Lucky" Bennett Flackey (Medal of Honor, Sea Cross).
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 21 September 2020 19: 40
                +2
                It is clear that amateur performance.
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 21 September 2020 19: 45
                  +1
                  - In original

                  Badges with a "white" sun indicate damaged targets,
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 21 September 2020 19: 48
                    +2
                    And about the "German" you do not know?
                    1. saygon66
                      saygon66 21 September 2020 19: 58
                      +2
                      - Unfortunately ... In the official history - nothing ...
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 21 September 2020 21: 04
                        +3
                        Thanks, namesake. With you and with Sergey it turns out much more interesting than without you. smile drinks
                      2. Lexus
                        Lexus 22 September 2020 01: 01
                        +4
                        Kostya, hello " hi
                        You intrigued me with your flag. Here's what I dug up. The boat does indeed include a sunken German tanker in the North Atlantic. Reddit, of course, but a link to Eugene Flakey's book.

                      3. Lexus
                        Lexus 22 September 2020 02: 11
                        +2
                        But in another, sources write that the Nazi flag was placed by mistake, because a Spanish ship was sunk, mistaking it for a German one.


                        The only thing I haven't figured out is the flag with 14 red crosses. The total number of exits to the sea (of which 12 were combat), months on campaigns, thousands of miles traveled, injuries / deaths of crew members, Japanese killed from personal weapons or repulsed aircraft attacks, in the end? Fick knows them. request
                      4. bubalik
                        bubalik 22 September 2020 06: 33
                        +2
                        another sources write that the Nazi flag was placed by mistake, because a Spanish ship was sunk, mistaking it for a German one.
                        hi interesting. Everything could be so, Flaki himself believed that he sank many more ships than he was officially credited with.
                      5. Lexus
                        Lexus 22 September 2020 09: 20
                        +2
                        hi Sergei, "fixes" of both quantity and size take place at every step. Particularly legendary, they gained fame thanks to hunters, fishermen and ladies' men (both men and women). With regard to their "colleagues in uniform" - this is practically "Holy". lol

                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 22 September 2020 12: 24
                        +2
                        In! And let Anton not make a falsehood now that I am the only woman here spreading. laughing
                2. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 September 2020 02: 33
                  +2
                  Or who was saved too? request
                3. Catfish
                  Catfish 22 September 2020 12: 23
                  +2
                  Lyosha, come on! hi
                  There is a separate icon for the rescued pilot in the lower right corner.
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 21 September 2020 15: 34
    +3
    Three high-speed barges were in pursuit of Shch-408. The boat was running out of batteries and air. At 2:50 am on May 22, 1943, the Pike surfaced in line of sight of the German ships and began an artillery battle with them. According to the reports of the Germans, they hit the bow of the boat and near the stern gun, and after he got into the area of ​​the stern gun and his servants got into the place of the dead, other sailors got up and continued the battle, getting into the German ships.

    https://valerongrach.livejournal.com/605491.html

    They fought a surface battle in order to transmit the last radiogram: "I have damage, the enemy does not allow me to charge, please send aircraft, my place is Vaindlo."
    Fifteen minutes from two 45-mm guns, the crew fought against two BDB (high-speed landing barges - ed.). Moreover, as the Germans write in their reports, the service of the guns was constantly changing, because people were dying, new ones came to replace them. All in order for the radio operator to transmit a radiogram twice.
    After that, the boat sank, and for several more days the Finnish anti-submarine defense ships, which were called by the Germans, finished it off, listening to the depth and throwing depth charges to where the knocks were heard. And the crew tried for several days to raise the boat, somehow revive it. There were 40 people there.

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rgo/vodolazy-nashli-14-podlodok-zatonuvshih-vo-vremia-velikoi-otechestvennoi-v-baltike-5cd2ce89ba577c00b3dac233
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 21 September 2020 19: 45
    0
    Japan adhered to a moratorium on prisoners of war, unlike Germany!
    ps how sad it will be to say this is true, my grandfather fought in the Far East ...
    Many of our people surrendered in the summer of 1941 just because of this ...