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Klaipeda vs. Ust-Luga: Lithuania modernizes its main port to compete with Russia

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Lithuania has started reconstruction of the port of Klaipeda to increase its competitiveness. It is obvious that the Lithuanian port is going to increase competition with the Russian Ust-Luga.


Reconstruction of breakwaters and shipping channel


On September 18, it became known about the beginning of the reconstruction of the famous breakwaters (breakwaters), which have always been considered the symbol of the Klaipeda seaport. The breakwaters were built over a century ago to protect the port from sea waves. It is their reconstruction, in combination with the capital deepening of the navigable canal up to 17 meters, that will allow receiving the largest ships entering the Baltic Sea.

The breakwaters will be reconstructed by a consortium of the German company Hecker Bau GmbH & CO. KG. " and the Belgian company Herbosch - Kiere NV. In recent years, these companies have been implementing large-scale projects in the field of maritime infrastructure in such European ports as Hamburg, Antwerp, Ostend and a number of others. Now they will work in Klaipeda.

We, as seaport contractors, have extensive experience in this area of ​​construction activities. Our company has been operating for almost a year and a half. We have a very professional and strong team that will complete this project without any problems,

- emphasized the CEO of Hecker Bau GmbH & CO. KG. " Christoph Wellendorf.

Of course, the initiative to deepen the shipping channel is of fundamental importance for the further development of the Klaipeda seaport. Moreover, it is extremely important for the entire Lithuanian economy, since it is the port in Klaipeda that allows the small country to extract income from cargo traffic, and these incomes make up a significant part of the national budget of the country.

What is the main reason for the problems of Klaipeda port


At the same time, due to the recent deterioration of relations with Belarus, which provided a significant part of the port's capacity utilization, Lithuania faced the question of how to maintain its profitability. The countries saw an exit in the Ministry of Transport and Communications in the development of the port to such a level that it would become the best port of the Baltic Sea and could easily compete with other ports.


Of course, first of all, the main competitor of the Klaipeda port in Lithuania is the Russian port of Ust-Luga. This port is located in the northwest of our country, in the Luga Bay of the Gulf of Finland of the Baltic Sea near the village of Ust-Luga. It has been operating for over 20 years. Over the years, Ust-Luga has managed to develop very quickly, becoming worthy competitors to the oldest Baltic ports that have existed for centuries. Russian ports are generally very lucky compared to their Baltic “counterparts”: for example, in the summer of 2020 due to the coronavirus pandemic, all ports experienced a significant decline in cargo turnover.

But if in Klaipeda port the volume of loading decreased by 6,6% compared to the summer of 2019, and in Ventspils by 40% in general, in Ust-Luga the decline was only 1%, and in St. Petersburg - 0,7%. But the decrease in the volume of loading in Klaipeda is not only a consequence of the pandemic. To some extent, it is a natural consequence of the policy of the Lithuanian government, which is very actively involved in various Western sanctions against Russia, and, accordingly, is doing everything possible to reduce the volume of loading.

The throughput of the port in Ust-Luga in 2019 amounted to 103,9 million tons. For comparison, Klaipeda had a cargo turnover of 2019 million tons in 46,22. That is, it is clearly far from those indicators that could bring it closer to the Russian port in terms of cargo turnover. Technical capabilities also have an effect: without deepening the canal, the Lithuanian port cannot yet receive the largest ships.

But in fact, the problems of the Klaipeda port are not connected with the breakwaters or the deepening of the shipping channel. Of course, it will be very good for the port and the entire Lithuanian state as a whole if it is able to receive large ships.

But the main task is to develop trade relations with neighboring countries, and Lithuania's closest neighbors are Russia and Belarus, and participation in sanctions against them will in any case affect the port's congestion, deepen or not deepen the shipping channel and reconstruct the breakwaters or not. In other words, if anti-Russian and anti-Belarusian sanctions are supported, Lithuania itself will strike a blow to the competitiveness of its main port - it will lose competition with Ust-Luga, increasing the gap.
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 September 2020 11: 53
    54
    Wonderful. Due to a completely delusional Russophobic policy, the volume of cargo turnover in the port has dropped. Change politics? Not! To throw more dough into the reconstruction of the port, so that in theory large-tonnage vessels could enter there, but practically nothing will change. The port is no longer needed by anyone.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 12: 00
      41
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Wonderful. Because of the completely delusional .... The port is simply no longer needed.

      Remember as a classic - it is a sin to laugh at sick people.
      Lord, send them a kind person who will finally show them the globe and tell them about geography ..
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 20 September 2020 12: 05
        11
        I'm not laughing. I'm really surprised at this illogicality.
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 20 September 2020 12: 35
          +9
          The breakwaters will be reconstructed by a consortium of the German company Hecker Bau GmbH & CO. KG. " and the Belgian company Herbosch - Kiere NV.

          And in the headline "Lithuania is modernizing".
          Pays, it would be more accurate.
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 12: 46
            10
            Quote: Mitroha
            And in the headline "Lithuania is modernizing". Pays, it would be more accurate.
            It would be more accurate - washes the money, the laundry has not been canceled ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 13: 32
              17
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              the laundry has not been canceled ...

              This is how a catastrophe is brewing. Russia has already sharply reduced transit through the Baltic ports since 2019, and then there is a fatal quarrel with Lukashenka. Of course, the EU allocated the money before, no one expected what would happen. Moreover, we are young conspirators, we understand that the plan was to overthrow Lukashenka in advance and were preparing to plunder Belaya Rus, they were preparing the port. wassat But it didn't work out. The payment is targeted and the port will have to be improved, although it is high time the rails and cranes were scrapped wassat
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 14: 32
                +3
                Quote: hrych
                Russia has already sharply reduced transit through the Baltic ports since 2019, and then there is a fatal one ...

                It may have sharply reduced it since '19, but much earlier, when the Republic of Lithuania strangled the transit pipe to Ventspils with its own hands, transit was constantly decreasing. But the traitors of their people are not interested in the needs of the people, these are on salary.
                It would also be good to remind them how, at the suggestion of the Swedes and Finns, they proudly abandoned the SP-1/2 - they count chickens in the fall ...
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 20 September 2020 15: 49
                  +9
                  VERY funny: they are upgrading the port so that it ... STANDBY !!! After all, over time, there will be no Russian or Belarusian cargo !!! Yes, Russophobia is an expensive pleasure. The Pro-Balts will have to beg for denyuzhka-alms from the Europeans for existence. laughing
              2. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 20 September 2020 17: 01
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                The payment is targeted and the port will have to be improved, although it's time to hand over the rails and cranes for scrap

                To keep the rails and cranes, the Baltic “colleagues” need to create a syndicate.
                Place ships for unloading in a port as far as possible from their destination. Then the cargo is delivered by rail to the destination. The delivery price will rise, but the railway will be loaded and the cranes will be kept. In terms of cargo turnover, they will overtake Ust-Luga, and preserve the main asset of the three Baltic republics - Russophobia.
                They can also invite the Poles. wassat
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 20 September 2020 13: 05
            +4
            Quote: Mitroha
            Pays, it would be more accurate.

            Maybe it will be more accurate - while the EU pays? laughing
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 20 September 2020 15: 20
            +2
            Quote: Mitroha
            Pays, it would be more accurate.

            Is it possible that Lithuania dug up a treasure somewhere to pay for the reconstruction? belay
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 20 September 2020 18: 23
              0
              So sooner or later, the Lithuanians will still have to give it back
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 20 September 2020 18: 58
                +1
                Quote: Mitroha
                So sooner or later, the Lithuanians will still have to give it back

                And what to take from them? They, like a Latvian, have only hell and a soul. (Russian proverb) laughing
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 12: 42
          +1
          Quote: stock buildbat
          I'm not laughing. I'm really surprised at this illogicality.

          If you will allow me: personally, you are a psychiatrist and a neuropathologist - not interesting ... which is good
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 20 September 2020 14: 17
          +1
          Quote: stock buildbat
          I'm not laughing. I'm really surprised at this illogicality.

          Maybe it's the EU subsidies and the fact that orders for Russophobia are paid for?
      2. cniza
        cniza 20 September 2020 12: 07
        +5
        It won't help, the owner rules there and will do what they say. hi
    2. seti
      seti 20 September 2020 12: 04
      31
      Construction of new terminals in Ust-Luga


      New berths in Ust-Luga Construction of a facility by OOO SU "GT Morstroy"



      More guys berths - not a kilogram of cargo for the Balts!
    3. Asad
      Asad 20 September 2020 12: 06
      -9
      Belarus carries 30% of the total volume of the port, and the Belarusians have 30% of the port's shares, it is unlikely that they will give up everything.
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 20 September 2020 12: 37
        17
        The Belarusians do not have 30% of the port's shares, but 30% of the shares of the owner of one of the terminals.
        1. Nirag013
          Nirag013 21 September 2020 20: 57
          0
          Quite right - Belarus owns 30 percent of the shares of one terminal, namely the bulk cargo terminal, where Belarusian potash fertilizers are loaded.
      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 20 September 2020 12: 37
        +3
        They transported, now they transported 30% ...
      3. Machito
        Machito 20 September 2020 12: 37
        +4
        Quote: ASAD
        Belarus carries 30% of the total volume of the port, and the Belarusians have 30% of the port's shares, it is unlikely that they will give up everything.

        In light of the most active participation of Lithuania in organizing the coup d'etat in Belarus and the imposition of sanctions, Lithuania is simply running into retaliatory actions by Batka and the transformation of the reconstruction of the Klaipeda port into another SP-2.
      4. bobba94
        bobba94 20 September 2020 12: 55
        +8
        The company "Belaruskaliy" owns 30% of the shares of the company that owns a bulk cargo terminal in the Klaipeda port .... we are talking about one terminal.
    4. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 20 September 2020 12: 20
      27
      Dobrogo Ivan. You can laugh at the Litvin until a certain moment. Let's figure out where the money for the reconstruction comes from? At the moment, the delivery of NATO armored vehicles to the Baltic states is limited by the throughput capacity of the railway (the bridges are flimsy). By road, the same thing. When modernizing the port, it will be possible to receive and unload ro-ro, lighters and container ships of the US Armed Forces Shipping Command. And that's another story altogether. Do not think that the Tribalts do anything themselves.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 20 September 2020 12: 29
        11
        Greetings, Alexey. I am not laughing, as I said. It's just that the port's real economic efficiency will not increase. It is possible to build an ultra-modern port / transshipment point, but if it is aside from trade routes, it will be more unprofitable, the larger it is. And from the point of view of military logistics, there is a sense, but very little. Which is easier to destroy - a road network with new bridges or a huge new port, absolutely meaningless in peacetime?
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 20 September 2020 12: 43
          +7
          At the expense of the simplicity of the destruction of the port, a controversial issue. Covering one object is easier than twenty. You really need to look at whose money the reconstruction is carried out and everything will become clear. If the Lithuanians do it for others, then everything is practically decided.
      2. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 20 September 2020 13: 06
        +5
        "With the modernization of the port, it will be possible to receive and unload Ro-Ro ships, lighters and container ships of the US Armed Forces Shipping Command. That is a completely different story."

        Previously, the ownership of the ports belonged to local oligarchs. Now other serious uncles are investing in the expansion (such as those associated with the US military). They are not used to giving money just like that. In terms of economic efficiency, there is a minus or about zero. The current owners have problems with profits and the division of debts (who will turn out to be a sucker and on whom the debts will be written off) on investments. Surely there were large bank loans and who will give it back. A new investor drew on the property because of a puddle. A complete "whore".

        In Lithuania the other day some famous lawyer was killed at home, like during a robbery. He represented the interests of local oligarchs.

        With ports labuses "will help" put things in order.
      3. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 20 September 2020 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: zadorin1974
        During the modernization of the port, it will be possible to receive and unload ro-ro rokers, lighters and container ships United States Shipping Command.And that's a completely different story.Do not think that the Tribals are doing something themselves.

        Nobody thinks. The US ILC will transfer B and BT, and the port will be modernized at the expense of the EU, "the old song about the main thing" ...
      4. Volder
        Volder 21 September 2020 09: 28
        0
        Quote: zadorin1974
        With the modernization of the port, it will be possible to receive and unload ro-ro, lighters and container ships of the US Armed Forces Shipping Command.
        "Iskander" across the port - and there are no ro-ro, lighters and container ships of the US Armed Forces.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 21 September 2020 09: 57
          +3
          How old are you Dmitry? As far as I understand, if I give you a gun now, then you will go and shoot Trump right away? NATO also has good anti-aircraft systems (this time), the Iskander strike is the beginning of the war (these are two) Do not write any nonsense is three.
          1. Volder
            Volder 22 September 2020 13: 56
            0
            Quote: zadorin1974
            NATO also has good anti-aircraft systems
            What exactly? Which ones are in the Baltics (Lithuania)? Apparently, you are hinting that they will effectively repel the Iskander strike. Well, such a ridiculous opinion also has a right to exist, but it's time for me to ask you how old you are :)
            Iskander strike is the beginning of the war
            Of course the beginning. This is in case NATO decides to use weapons brought to ports by the US Armed Forces Shipping Command. The ports and their weapons, together with the operators, will disappear from the face of the earth.
      5. Nirag013
        Nirag013 21 September 2020 21: 03
        0
        The approaches to the Klaipeda port are not the best - there is shallow water all around and a navigable canal has been dug to enter the port. So, in which case (?), We wish the US Shipping Command good luck getting to this port.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 22 September 2020 07: 16
          +1
          Good Eduard. All conflicts do not start all of a sudden. It is clear that during OBD the port will look like it is now the port in Beirut. But at the moment mattresses cannot start more battalion fur without critical stresses (the problem with the entry of large-tonnage vessels and crane unloading). Last year, they were able to drive through Poland only a light brigade on the Strikers (by and large, this is PshIK) for exercises. On Ro-rokers, you can throw at a time (the excuse can be different - exercises, quarantine, crap) and unload and deploy a tank division with all the funds attached in a week, this will be an adult. Chasing through the forests and swamps in the Baltic region is one thing, butting with mattresses is another (no need to belittle, they know how to fight).
    5. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 13: 34
      +1
      It is also necessary to close the road and rail communication with the Baltic republics from Russia and Belarus.
      1. Sergey Nikiforov
        Sergey Nikiforov 20 September 2020 19: 00
        -1
        And to ship our cargo transportation to Finland, let the trucks of a kilometer wind up
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 19: 07
          0
          Let the cargo be transported through the port of Ust-Luga.
          1. Sergey Nikiforov
            Sergey Nikiforov 20 September 2020 19: 10
            -1
            By ferries.? Well, then the prices will be
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 19: 12
              0
              And through the Baltic ports on what they carry ???
              1. Sergey Nikiforov
                Sergey Nikiforov 20 September 2020 19: 43
                0
                And there is mainly oil, fertilizers, our trucks to Europe, mainly for medicines and industrial goods, well, more equipment, and a lot of things
                1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 19: 46
                  0
                  Well, the cargo that used to be transported through the Baltic ports will be transported through the port of Ust-Luga.
                  1. Sergey Nikiforov
                    Sergey Nikiforov 20 September 2020 21: 32
                    0
                    Count the logistics and don't forget, Ust-Luga is a private port with all the ensuing consequences
                    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                      Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 21: 54
                      +1
                      And the Baltic ports, as well as foreign. Where is the logic? It does not matter, the state must provide the infrastructure for receiving and shipping any cargo (invest or find investors, or maybe one of the founders of the port), since the hostile rhetoric of neighbors cannot be endured forever.
                      1. Sergey Nikiforov
                        Sergey Nikiforov 22 September 2020 08: 46
                        0
                        And you will supply Kaliningrad with planes.?
                      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                        Nikolay Ivanov_5 22 September 2020 17: 25
                        0
                        Does Kaliningrad have no access to the sea?
  2. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 20 September 2020 15: 34
    0
    No wonder, everyone understands perfectly well that no matter how attractive this port is, Russia and Belarus will bypass it. But stealing a few bucks on construction is sacred))), especially since during construction it is very difficult to prove the fact of theft later. Investigators will not get under the water)))
  3. tagil
    tagil 20 September 2020 16: 42
    0
    Large ships can be military, their owners and used for the transfer of large contingents of troops and equipment. I see no other reason. The Balts are already a cargo dead end, there is nowhere to go further.
  4. Jager
    Jager 21 September 2020 07: 21
    0
    When the brothel is not profitable, you need to change girls, not rearrange the beds ...
  5. iouris
    iouris 21 September 2020 11: 21
    -1
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    The port is no longer needed by anyone.

    You are a wingless man, comrade Ptichkin! You have to think about the future. Well this is our port.
  6. DIM (a)
    DIM (a) 21 September 2020 14: 30
    0
    Maybe they decided to actually host Large ships ... like Aircraft Carriers?
  7. Dedok
    Dedok 21 September 2020 15: 22
    0
    loot is not Lithuanian, but the EU.
    Therefore, Lithuanians do not worry about further results.
  8. Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 22 September 2020 00: 00
    0
    The Baltic ports are the military infrastructure of NATA in the first place, as well as ports are needed by Russian businessmen who import goods into the Russian Federation. Most of these goods are undervalued in order to reduce import duties and VAT. Even trucks go from Germany-Italy not directly, but with a stopover in the Baltic States to understate the cost of goods, and then to Moscow.
  9. kimvladimiril
    kimvladimiril 22 September 2020 17: 10
    0
    The question is, where are you going to carry this cargo from Klaipeda?
  10. halpat
    halpat 23 September 2020 10: 03
    0
    the port will do well as a NATO base for ships.
    This will not give a lot of money, of course. But at least some work.
    Therefore, they are reconstructing.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 September 2020 11: 54
    12
    Again, Russophobia is an expensive business. If they pay for it with EU subsidies, then wherever they go, but will they stop? Teeth on the shelf?
    1. seti
      seti 20 September 2020 12: 08
      12
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Again, Russophobia is an expensive business. If they pay for it with EU subsidies, then wherever they go, but will they stop? Teeth on the shelf?

      From next year, supsidiyam kirdyk. Let them learn to live on their own. Now we will see who, during the time of the accursed Soviet Union, fed whom, they were us, or all the same, Russia.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 20 September 2020 14: 12
        +2
        Quote: seti
        Let them learn to live on their own. Now we will see who, during the time of the accursed Soviet Union, fed whom, they were us, or all the same, Russia.

        Beautiful plate. And you don't need to say anything ...
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 20 September 2020 15: 35
      -1
      Almost stopped already. Brussels has already announced a "cut in rations" for Eastern partners)))
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 September 2020 12: 00
    +3
    Competition has moved from economics to politics. Deepen, do not deepen, you will still have paradise.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 September 2020 12: 00
    +4
    But the main task is to develop trade relations with neighboring countries, and Lithuania's closest neighbors are Russia and Belarus
    This is if you think logically and with a calculator. And they have in the first place the struggle with Russia, and now they have completely ruined relations with Belarus. Perhaps the time has finally come to collect stones that have been actively scattered for so many years in the "garden" of neighbors.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 20 September 2020 12: 02
    17
    If Russia and Belarus will transport their cargo through Russian ports, it is not clear who and what will carry through the Baltic ports? They will have a certain amount of their cargo, but that's all. For such ports as Klaipeda, Riga and Tallinn, this is very little. Gradually they will become a logistic dead end. Of course, a good port is always useful for the development of a country, but to maintain the port infrastructure, you need a load. request In general, nothing good shines for the Lithuanians even with the modernized port. Well, we naturally need to further increase the capacity and utilization of Ust Luga, Vysotsk, Primorsk and St. Petersburg.
    Another would be to break through the corridor from RB to Kaliningrad, and then Kaliningrad would start abruptly. wink There daddy Lithuania is not going to declare war yet? Otherwise, a couple of Lithuanian counties would have looked good as part of Belarus, and transit to Kaliningrad would have significantly increased, bringing good money to Luka. wink
    1. seti
      seti 20 September 2020 12: 10
      +3
      Quote: g1v2
      If Russia and Belarus will transport their cargo through Russian ports, it is not clear who and what will carry through the Baltic ports? They will have a certain amount of their cargo, but that's all.


      Yes, we all are not able to cut them, but there is a concept profitability Apparently they are hoping for Chinese or other cargo that somehow will not go through the ports of the Russian Federation or through the territory of the Russian Federation.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 20 September 2020 12: 29
        +6
        Transit is always a matter closely related to politics. All serious streams must pass through us or Belarus. What is the Chinese sense of reloading cargo in their ports, if you can safely deliver it further by railway or by trucks through Poland or Finland?
        1. seti
          seti 20 September 2020 12: 41
          +8
          The meaning is definitely there. The bulk of the goods are delivered not by trucks, but by rail - this way you can deliver more, cheaper and, accordingly, much faster. But the cheapest type of transportation is by water or sea. The question is where the goods are going and from where. Whose cargo is the one who determines how and where to transport them and to which port / terminal. For the Balts, cargo will be certified very quickly, this is their big plus. Our documentation is longer so far. And we still do not have enough port capacity for all cargo, not only ours. But since we are modernizing, creating new and upgrading our ports (Ust-Luga, SPTP, Vysotsk, etc.), this is a matter of the near future.
          The main task is to all our (Russian and Belarusian) cargo went only through our ports and strives to ensure that all foreign cargo going through our territories is also sent through them. Let the competitors go around the world with a spat on their hand .. That's right - Russophobia business is not just expensive, it is ruinous.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 13: 23
            -1
            Quote: seti
            That's right - Russophobia is not just an expensive business, it is ruinous.

            It is important to understand what are the reasons for such shifts. After all, just recently it was an extremely profitable business. Which was paid including at our expense. However, is it really so long gone? Any loans to Bulbats give me some doubts.
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      3. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 20 September 2020 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: seti
        Apparently they are hoping for Chinese or other goods that somehow will not go through the ports of the Russian Federation

        If the cargo is destined for Lithuania itself, the old port has plenty of opportunities. Offended dad, he redirects the cargo traffic of Belarus through the Russian ports. Kaliningrad and Poland have their own ports. If ours do not give slack at customs (by lowering duties), then the money for the modernization of the port is down the drain.
        1. seti
          seti 20 September 2020 13: 46
          0
          Of course, the bulk of the cargo is not intended for Lithuania itself, but for other EU countries. Perhaps this is why it is profitable to send them through the same Lithuania. One customs / documentation reduction of costs and red tape, well, and then the cargo goes directly to the recipient. The task of the Russian Federation in the coming years is to make sure that even these goods pass the Baltic states.
      4. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 20 September 2020 14: 24
        +1
        Quote: seti
        Apparently they are hoping for Chinese or other cargo that somehow will not go through the ports of the Russian Federation or through the territory of the Russian Federation.

        Something I do not understand the logistic subtleties. If Belarus and Russia are excluded from the concept of "Chinese and other cargoes", leaving Klaipeda - what will be overloaded in Klaipeda for shipment? Will the goods delivered by sea across the Indian Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea and the Baltic around Europe be reloaded in Klaipeda port for shipment by sea to Germany? Even if from China and other Southeast Asia through the Northern Sea Route - well, they sailed to Klaipeda. So? is it not easier for the Chinese to "further" themselves, without Klaipeda?

        Explain, please, someone - what is the point of not even reconstruction, but the very existence of the Klaipeda port without Russia and Belarus? For the needs of Lithuania itself, everything that it needs and everything that they have enough money for can be brought on a fishing scow.
        1. seti
          seti 20 September 2020 16: 47
          +1
          There are goods that go, for example, from Gabunistan to Sweden or Norway .. Not all of them go strictly through the territory of the Russian Federation. First, they get to Odessa along the Black Sea, then through the country 4-4, Belarus to Klaipeda, where they are again loaded onto ships and go to the final destination in the countries of northern Europe.
          The Balts are not dancing for the reconstruction this time. Secondly, this is a planned modernization - the money has already been allocated and they are being successfully used. The breakwaters there have long been asking to be enlarged and strengthened - in order to protect the port facilities and berths from storm winds from the west and northwest.
          You need to understand the size of the upgrades and all these works. He can be very humble. Swing for a ruble and exhale for a penny ..)))
          If we get full control over all routes through the territories of the Union State, then we can really inflict a fatal blow on the Baltic ports, putting their ports on the brink of complete oblivion and degradation. Subject to the continued development, modernization and planned expansion of its own port infrastructure in the Baltic and Black Sea regions.
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 20 September 2020 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: g1v2
      a couple of Lithuanian counties would look good as part of Belarus

      For example, Kovenskaya and Vilna provinces are not bad to return.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 20 September 2020 12: 04
    +7
    It's time to include the political component in the deal with the Balts. He barked a little in the direction of the Russians and was left with no orders at all.
    So I would really make a project of the century from ports in the Baltic, not Olympiads, summits and others, but a super port, where the return will be immediate
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 20 September 2020 12: 23
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      So I would really make a project of the century from ports in the Baltic, not Olympiads, summits and others, but a super port, where the return will be immediate

      This is yes. He waved his magic wand to the right - and here he is, in an open field - `` superport ''. I waved to the left and all the logistics chains were lined up at once. And `` immediate recoil. '' And Cho from America to Canada is a superport. From Hong Kong to Belarus is also a superport.
      And it should be called New Rotterdam. And for Rotters, rename Old Klaipeda
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 20 September 2020 12: 39
        +1
        Quote: Winnie76
        This is yes. He waved his magic wand to the right - and here he is, in an open field - `` superport ''

        Well, yes, it's better to buy American trainers and wonder why our American and European partners are not investing in our infrastructure?
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 12: 38
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      It's time to include the political component in the deal with the Balts. Barked a little in the direction of the Russians and was left with no orders at all

      These games can be played together.
      In the Kaliningrad region, a modern terminal for handling gas carriers is being completed with the dispatch of liquefied gas to foreign customers. And all roads to Russia lead through Lithuania. But we won't give them even a penny on transit?
      From the point of view of logistics, all Russian ports of the Gulf of Finland are the most inconvenient - from Klaipeda a day or two. And shipping companies try to avoid “extra mileage”.
      A couple of years ago, an attempt was made to "gift" the transit of Belaruskali to dates - to ship fertilizers to Kotka. There is also a modern terminal. But something didn't work out. It seems that there is not enough capacity.
      And to ship the same fertilizers from Vyborg is a real hemorrhoid.
      So we will rely on the expansion of Ust-Luga ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 20 September 2020 12: 44
        +2
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        These games can be played together.
        In the Kaliningrad region, a modern terminal for handling gas carriers is being completed with the dispatch of liquefied gas to foreign customers. And all roads to Russia lead through Lithuania. But we won't give them even a penny on transit?

        Do not forget that in every such business project, there is a strategic component. Our partners from the Baltic states will block the transshipment of cargo and we cannot do anything except to be very indignant. Development of infrastructure has a slightly different meaning, not everything is measured by the rate of profit
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 12: 52
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Do not forget that in every such business project, there is a strategic component. Our partners from the Baltic states will block the transshipment of cargo and we cannot do anything except to be very indignant. Development of infrastructure has a slightly different meaning, not everything is measured by the rate of profit

          Who argues ... fellow
          But the same EU is also on the alert. They strictly monitor not only Lyosha-Dichlorvos, but also all "domestic" businessmen and entrepreneurs who are "dissatisfied" with the authorities, offering them profitable business schemes, refusing services from what they believe to be pro-state Russian companies.
          We will translate the transit - I have no doubts.
          But the price of the shipped product will be less, since both the "long shoulder" and the bony hand of the information war (for now) will influence the price of transportation.
    3. Brturin
      Brturin 20 September 2020 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      It's time to include the political component in the deal with the Balts. He barked a little in the direction of the Russians and was left with no orders at all.

      But maybe not through fingers, but there is much more that can be done ...
      ! In January-June, Lithuania mainly exported to Russia (13,4), Latvia (9,3), Germany (8,3) and Poland (6,8). The main trade partners for imports were Poland (12,6), Germany (12,1), Russia (10,4), Latvia (7,6). Most of the goods of Lithuanian origin were exported to Germany (10,6), Sweden and Poland (7,4 percent for both countries), Latvia (6,8), the Netherlands (5,9).
      https://lt.sputniknews.ru/economy/20200808/12838806/RF-stala-glavnym-torgovym-partnerom-Litvy-po-eksportu-v-pervom-polugodii.html
      Even if there are no goods of "Lithuanian origin" in Russia, you need to leave the first lines ...
  • cniza
    cniza 20 September 2020 12: 06
    +5
    But the main task is to develop trade relations with neighboring countries, and Lithuania's closest neighbors are Russia and Belarus, and participation in sanctions against them will in any case affect the port's congestion, whether or not you deepen the shipping canal and reconstruct the breakwaters or not.


    That is exactly how no one will give you the load of your port if you do not conduct the correct policy.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 20 September 2020 12: 07
    +2
    What will you load? Belarus and Russia don't need you, but nothing else passes through you in principle
    1. seti
      seti 20 September 2020 12: 14
      +5
      Quote: Cowbra
      What will you load? Belarus and Russia don't need you, but nothing else passes through you in principle

      Unfortunately it passes. For example, Chinese, from Central Asia, countries 4o4 and others .. But a lot of this flows through the territory of the Russian Federation and Belarus. Here, in response, you can put a spoke in the wheel well by raising transit fees.
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 20 September 2020 12: 09
    +2
    Lithuania has started reconstruction of the port of Klaipeda to increase its competitiveness. It is obvious that the Lithuanian port is going to increase competition with the Russian Ust-Luga.
    If you want to live, but if you want to strike, you will still get ... a minimum of freight traffic ..
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 September 2020 12: 10
    +2
    Let it be spent if the money has nowhere to go. This is not an economic question, but a political one. So it's all in vain. Money down the drain.
  • Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 20 September 2020 12: 11
    0
    The West itself will never give a penny to anyone who will reread it at least in some way.
    And let's talk about market freedoms really. But for some reason they expect this from us.
  • Rage66
    Rage66 20 September 2020 12: 11
    0
    The mooring bollards will probably paint the new tires on the berths ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 16
    +1
    laughing I wonder if Russian railways will be transported to Klaipeda or to Ust-Luga? laughing laughing
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 12: 18
    +3
    I don’t even know where the author dug up this news ...
    The last entry to Klaipeda is on September 10 this year.
    Loaded at the Klasco terminal, 6th berth.
    The terminal is old, built in 1999. No later than 2000.
    In the port of Klaipeda, no one hides that the processing of potash fertilizers from Belaruskali is coming to an end.
    At the same time, the port continues to function, since the logistics of container transportations to the Baltic states provide Klaipeda with the most advantageous - the shortest - geographical position. And carriers count every ton of fuel spent on sea transport.
    Output.
    The breakwater will indeed be lengthened in order to reduce the swell at the berths in conditions of stormy winds from the west and northwest.
    As for dredging, this is a too costly project that can pay off only with the redirection of almost all container shipments from Europe to the Baltic States. Then Klaipeda will be able to handle container ships carrying up to 1000 TEU, or, roughly speaking, 40-foot containers.
    In fact, the port is doing it now, but from ships of smaller cargo capacity.
  • Dude
    Dude 20 September 2020 12: 19
    0
    Lithuania started reconstruction of the port of Klaipeda to increase its competitiveness

    Late, [Baltic] grandmother, drink Borjomi when the kidneys fell off ... repeat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 26
    +2
    Quote: APASUS
    It's time to include the political component in the deal with the Balts. He barked a little in the direction of the Russians and was left with no orders at all.
    So I would really make a project of the century from ports in the Baltic, not Olympiads, summits and others, but a super port, where the return will be immediate

    It was great for the former "brothers" Bulgarians, Poles, Czechs to temporarily cut off economic aid to enlighten their brains. wink
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 30
    +2
    Yes sly fucked. But be that as it may, the cargo will be sent through Ust-Luga not because the Balts need to be taught a lesson, but because first of all it is necessary to repulse their own investments. So absolutely nothing personal, just business. laughing
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 20 September 2020 12: 32
    +1
    They now need to demolish this port and they are bucking the loot fool
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 20 September 2020 12: 34
    +1
    In Latvia, they said that cargo transportation in the country fell by almost half after Russia redirected the flow of goods to its own ports. It is unlikely that it will be possible to replace Russian goods, summed up the head of the Latvian state company Latvian Railways, Maris Kleinbergs.

    In Latvia, they complained that the volume of cargo transportation in the country almost halved after Russia redirected the flow of goods to its own ports. This was announced by the head of the Latvian state company "Latvian Railways" Maris Kleinbergs, reports Sputnik Latvia.

    The company wants to increase its volumes by the end of the year. However, in Latvia they admit that it will not be possible to achieve the indicators of previous years: there was nothing to replace Russian goods.

    "This year we plan to transport about 25 million tons of cargo, which is about half as much as in the previous year. In the coming years we are planning a slight increase. But I do not see an opportunity to replace the volume of cargo from Russia that we have lost," director of company.

    He said that before that, up to 70% of the cargo traffic in the country was made up of goods from Russia. As a result, the Latvian Railway decided to go for layoffs. Will lay off about 24% of employees.
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 20 September 2020 12: 41
    +3
    And where will Lithuania find those willing to use its port? Is it really the FRG or Britain?
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 13: 06
      0
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      Lord, send them a kind person who will finally show them the globe and tell them about geography ..

      from which they will never go anywhere ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 52
    +2
    PS

    Another fresh (from the Swiss) slide on the "belt" - silk laughing Even there are no Balts:
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 13: 04
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      ..there are no Balts ...

      So, by and large, they are nowhere to be found, and they are not interesting to anyone, and their name is in no way... A bargaining chip, it's a pity that they, the elite, God forgive me, refuse to accept this ..
  • bar
    bar 20 September 2020 13: 18
    0
    What is the main reason for the problems of Klaipeda port

    The main reason is the Russophobia of the Lithuanian leadership. No upgrades will help here
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 September 2020 13: 27
    0
    Quote: Guards turn
    But I do not see an opportunity to replace the volumes of cargo from Russia that we have lost

    In the early 90s, Latvia entered the top five exporters of non-ferrous metal.
  • senima56
    senima56 20 September 2020 13: 27
    +1
    Unfortunately, Klaipeda has an undeniable advantage - it is much closer to European ports! This means that our Ust-Luga must "take" something significant!
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 20 September 2020 13: 49
    +1
    Any modernization of the infrastructure of the Baltic states, be it ports or a railroad, is carried out to create an opportunity to bring Abrams, MLRS, and now also UDC with the marines closer to the Russian border.
  • north 2
    north 2 20 September 2020 14: 13
    +2
    the article does not say that Ust-Luga, Kaliningrad and Pionersk are not less competitive than Klaipeda. Even more than Ust-Luga. Especially the Belarusian machine and transport export transit. The distance from Belarus, that to Klaipeda, or to Kallinigraz, and Pionrsk are practically the same.
    Klaipeda was still breathing only due to the Belarusian export-import. So if Belarusian fertilizers and oil products go not to Klaipeda, but to Ust-Luga, and Belarusian tractors and cars are exported to Kaliningrad and Pionersk, and Belarusian imports come there, then Klaipeda will wither away completely in a couple of months. And that deepens the fairway and gates to the Klaipeda port, one should not forget that Lithuania is a NATO member. And her port must be ready to receive American cargo
    ships with the largest draft and the largest carrying capacity ... the Americans will order, so
    they will dig like the Ukrainians dug the Black Sea ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 14: 27
    0
    Quote: senima56
    Unfortunately, Klaipeda has an undeniable advantage - it is much closer to European ports! This means that our Ust-Luga must "take" something significant!
    К
    To European ports ...... laughing And what will you take from the port? Here a piece of iron is needed, but let me ask who in the Russian Federation will bother with this?
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 20 September 2020 15: 00
    +1
    Lithuania has started the reconstruction of the port of Klaipeda to increase its competitiveness.

    Yes? Will Russia and Belarus immediately return with repentance? recourse
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 20 September 2020 19: 40
      +2
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Yes? Will Russia and Belarus immediately return with repentance?

      The Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia has already prepared - "Liquidate the trade mission of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Lithuania; the trade mission of the Russian Federation in Ukraine." Only now regret ... Lithuanians can look at their neighbors - "Riga began with a port, it depends on the port. If it goes like this, Riga and Ventspils will compete with small ports, which are a haven for bored Scandinavian yachtsmen" - the leader of the Latvian social -Democratic Party "Consent" Janis Urbanovich
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 September 2020 15: 35
    0
    We have extensive experience in the production of such works, our company is already 1.5 years old. Damn, yes, even in my provincial town with such recommendations they will send to study or carry a maximum of a bucket after the master.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 15: 37
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
    It is also necessary to close the road and rail communication with the Baltic republics from Russia and Belarus.

    Small firms have died there long ago
    1. free_flier
      free_flier 20 September 2020 15: 58
      0
      It's time to be big.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 15: 39
    0
    Quote: Fedor Sokolov
    And where will Lithuania find those willing to use its port? Is it really the FRG or Britain?

    Who and what will be transported.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 15: 54
    0
    ... Read, especially Belarusians. And finally understand that it's easier to beat the dad with a herd. All fucked up the grand ducal (sorry for the indecency, but how else can I say in Russian (the main message of these propaganda tales was that the economies of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are advanced in comparison with other regions of the USSR, more "civilized", and indeed they are locomotives for the entire backward USSR. And small peoples become so pleased that the big Western uncles and aunts call them great that they themselves begin to believe in their own non-existent greatness. This is exactly what happened with the Balts, they sacredly believed that they smarter and more hardworking than the Russians, and that their regions are the economic and technological drivers of the entire USSR, that without them the Union would have collapsed long ago, which means that apart from the Russians they will live even better and richer. At the same time, guess how to compare their economic and technological level at least with the regions of the Urals and Siberia, they did not guess. The first is the RVR plant, the Riga Carriage Works. It was founded under the tsarist regime, in 1895, by the cursed Russian imperials with the participation of civilized Germans. After the revolution, he moved into the interior of Russia, and instead of carriages, Latvians, under a license, I emphasize, "for installation" received from the American Ford Motor Company, tried to assemble copies of the American people's car from American components. After the victory over the Germans, the accursed Soviets again moved the plant to the territory of Latvia, and since 1949 this plant has become one of the largest manufacturers of locomotives, tram cars and refrigeration equipment for trains in the USSR. After the collapse of the Union, effective managers from the West, who were invited by the Latvian government, forbade the plant's management to produce locomotives and ordered to take from Russia only contracts for the repair of existing locomotives and carriages. Russia was not at a loss and launched the production of locomotives in Torzhok and Orekhovo-Zuevo, but this did not teach the Latvians anything. By 2003, they tried to minimize cooperation with Russia in terms of repair work, which they achieved: Russia even began to repair old RVR locomotives mainly at its enterprises. And there are many such examples, you can write a dissertation. laughing
  • free_flier
    free_flier 20 September 2020 15: 57
    0
    Twice funny ...
    First, something like "... we have vast experience ... our company has existed for a year and a half!"
    Then - to pump millions of euros into the port, the presence of cargo is not threatened by the word AT ALL ...
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 20 September 2020 16: 01
    +1
    They can modernize, but what and where to carry ?! The needs and market of Lithuania itself are small, relations with the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are ruined, and in Poland there are also no bad ones to depend on Lithuania, they are expanding their ports there.
  • NF68
    NF68 20 September 2020 16: 08
    +2
    Didn't you miss it too late? A classic case in the style of "a bad head does not rest the legs". The only hope will remain for sprats.
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 48
      10
      Quote: NF68
      The only hope will remain for sprats.

      Who needs their sprats in Europe ...
      1. NF68
        NF68 22 September 2020 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: Baskak
        Quote: NF68
        The only hope will remain for sprats.

        Who needs their sprats in Europe ...


        A small amount is needed now. But it doesn't really help the Balts.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 16: 19
    +1
    Recently Eurostat accused the statistical authorities of the three small but proud Baltic countries of "a strange method of collecting statistical information." And the thing was this. The state bodies of statistics of "extinctions" were accused no less of rigging data on average salaries in the country. Statistical bodies took into account only the salaries of government officials (there are even videos about this on the Web), as a result of which the average salary was 1100 euros in Latvia, 1200 in Estonia and the same 1100 in Lithuania (all indicators are indicated after withholding taxes). But, having conducted their own research, Eurostat employees found that the average income level for all three republics (they did not count separately) is 680 euros. Can you imagine what are the approximate salaries of the population so that the level weighed together with bureaucratic salaries is 680 euros? And in all these three countries the number of officials is large. For example, in Latvia the number of officials in relation to the general population of the country is below the European average - 2,89%, in Estonia it is slightly worse - 3,08%, in Lithuania it is slightly better - 2,44%. My dear fellow citizens, this is not so little, in all three republics the number of officials is approaching 10-12 percent. able-bodied population. In the "backward" Slavic countries, which the progressive Balts love to teach so much, everything is not so bad. In Russia, the indicator is 0,71 percent, in Ukraine - 0,58 percent, the record holder is Belarus - 0,56 percent. Now do you understand where the legs grow from the simultaneously brilliant statistics on the average salary and the growing number of second-hand stores? laughing
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 20 September 2020 16: 25
    +2
    , "and Lithuania's closest neighbors are Russia and Belarus, and participation in sanctions against them will in any case affect the port's congestion, deepen or not deepen the shipping channel and reconstruct breakwaters or not."
    M-yes.
    As one comrade said recently: protest / do not protest, all you will get is not what you wanted.
    By the way, the topic of further transportation of goods has not been disclosed.
    From the steamer unloaded where? .. Then the cargo will go where / on what to the recipient? .. And tomorrow, in the light of the sanctions, your cargo will be arrested. What will you do? .. And this, you don't go to grandmother, will start happening. From enemy Klaipeda, the same ...
    And in Luga! Around, all their own. Will be taken / delivered one way or another.
  • georggy
    georggy 20 September 2020 17: 46
    +2
    It’s hard to believe that the Bibises are capable of doing anything.
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 47
      10
      Quote: george
      Hard to believe

      They don't upgrade anything. Talks about modernization are just words aimed at calming ourselves. yes
  • faterdom
    faterdom 20 September 2020 19: 59
    +2
    Economic sense. not. Unlike the military.
    That could explain everything - why all this dredging. Compared to the reconstruction of all roads and bridges, which, as it turned out, are a bottleneck for the American "Abrams" - this is cheaper.
    Only it makes no sense anyway - who will give the Americans there to calmly unload their divisions and brigades, or at least deliver them there?
    And only one option seems promising to me: Poland and the Balts are really trying to chop off something from Belarus. And then Lithuania may well become a single state with the latter. Only the capital will be in Minsk, and the Belarusian Sea will become a reality, as Psaki and Hillary Clintonsha wanted ...
    Well, the port, it is better then with new breakwaters - this is not against Old Man.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 20: 01
    +2
    Next year, the EEC sharply reduces the level of subsidies to the economy of the Baltic tigers. How and how to compensate for this? Experts, huh? One of the options is to raise tariffs for transshipment of goods through their ports. Although, really, why think about it now, if it can happen already next year.

    In Russia, a "tax maneuver" is underway, which by 2024 will deprive Belarus of all the oil benefits it has now and ... But what? For "experts" this is generally in a million years, so why think about it now?
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 21 September 2020 00: 45
    +2
    The cowboy regularly shoots himself in the legs but wants to put on new boots and remain a great cowboy.
  • venaly
    venaly 21 September 2020 08: 05
    +2
    We wish them that the money invested in the reconstruction will never pay off.
    1. Sergey Gintner
      Sergey Gintner 21 September 2020 08: 49
      +1
      So it will be real)) and it no longer depends on our desire .. It's just that these are the tough laws of economics ..
  • Sergey Gintner
    Sergey Gintner 21 September 2020 08: 47
    +1
    I think the issue is not in modernization and reconstruction, but elementary in the filling of the port with transit cargo ... Russian trade will not go through Lithuania for quite understandable reasons - the excessive Russophobic hostile policy of Lithuania towards Russia ... Now the same policy towards neighboring Belarus ... which also redirects its cargo flows from Lithuanian ports to Russian ones .. And who is your doctor? So you should at least reconstruct your port there ... that's not the point ... If the same line in foreign policy continues, Lithuania risks throwing money for the reconstruction of the port down the drain ..
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 47
      11
      Quote: Sergei Gintner
      If the same line in foreign policy continues, Lithuania runs the risk of throwing money for the reconstruction of the port down the drain.

      And so it will turn out. Let's say they are reconstructing a port. What's next? There are no cargoes. A complete fiasco for them.
  • Kill panhead
    Kill panhead 21 September 2020 11: 40
    +2
    The logic is iron, in my opinion, the Lithuanians with geography are not very ...)) Who in Russia wants to drive their goods through the ports of the Baltic states, which can be closed at any time for political reasons, or why they modernize their ports in order to drive goods from microscopic Latvia and Estonia? so those have their own ports, and are also in survival mode ...
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 46
      10
      Quote: Kill PanHead
      The logic is iron, in my opinion the Lithuanians with geography are not very good ...))

      The Baltic politicians with brains are not very ...
      They can plan whatever they want, but they won't succeed.
  • svoit
    svoit 21 September 2020 14: 53
    0
    Something began to think a lot about Lithuania, can you think about yourself better? I absolutely do not care why their tonnage dropped, but I would very much like to connect the Kaliningrad region with at least Belarus, and reconstruct the port there, since SP is unlikely to be competitive, if only because further
  • Barmal
    Barmal 21 September 2020 15: 04
    +1
    The updated port in the baltics is needed for the passage of large-tonnage ships - are the NATO fleet waiting for a visit?
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 45
      10
      Only the guests won't come.
      1. Barmal
        Barmal 22 September 2020 17: 32
        0
        Who knows. For the supply of everything to TVD because of a puddle during the Great War with Russia.
  • Kondratko
    Kondratko 21 September 2020 19: 21
    0
    - "And you," friends ", no matter how you sit down;
    All musicians are not good. "
    The pitiful attempts of the rogues ...
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 44
      10
      Quote: KondratKo
      The pitiful attempts of the rogues ...

      Maybe trying, but most likely just a bluff
  • nnz226
    nnz226 21 September 2020 20: 39
    +2
    Let Zhmud spend money ... All the same, Russian (and then Chinese) cargo will go through Russian ports.
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 43
      10
      Quote: nnz226
      Let him spend money

      Of course so. Only do they have them? Although Europe may once again drive them into credit bondage ...
  • mordor
    mordor 21 September 2020 21: 07
    +1
    Our company has been operating for almost a year and a half. We have a very professional and strong team. Who would have doubted that in a year and a half your team has achieved the highest skill, I wonder how much dough was cut during this period.
    1. Baskak
      Baskak 21 September 2020 21: 42
      11
      It is not customary to talk about this in their circles wink
      But, I think, not a little. yes
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 22 September 2020 00: 08
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Again, Russophobia is an expensive business. If they pay for it with EU subsidies, then wherever they go, but will they stop? Teeth on the shelf?

    I will not tire of repeating, the West does not care about the Baltic population. Here, in the west, have their own territorial administrators (citizens of Germany, Britain, mattresses), who work for a lot of money from the EU. Even if everything in the Baltics stops and dies, managers will not lose anything, their income does not depend on the local economy. The managers will carry out all orders of the West without discussion.