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Chinese media resource: It is now clear for what purpose the United States reduced its military contingent in Europe and the Middle East

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The Chinese press is discussing the decision of the US administration to reduce the number of US troops in Europe and the Middle East, including Syria and Iraq. Recall that US President Donald Trump gave orders to reduce the number of US troops in Afghanistan.


The Chinese information portal Sohu writes in its military-thematic section that "it is now clear for what purpose the US has reduced its contingent in Europe and in the BV." According to the author of the material, the liberating US forces "are being thrown into the East Asian direction and not only."

From material in Chinese media:

The US forces that were gradually being liberated in Europe, Afghanistan and the Middle East have finally revealed their true colors. With their help, the United States strengthened its military presence in the Indo-Pacific region and threw down military challenges to China, as well as Russia from the eastern flank.

The author notes that at this stage, NATO's eastward expansion "stalled". In this case, the wording is applied - "NATO has already rested on the Russian border."

From the material:

By and large, there is no need for the United States to keep a large military contingent in Europe, except perhaps in the Arctic. But they are building up military power in the Indo-Pacific direction, where American aircraft carriers and strategic bombers are increasingly active.

The publication notes that the United States continues to form a missile defense system, "the purpose of which is to violate strategic parity in favor of Washington."

From the article:

They are trying to form strike groups, including aircraft carriers, in order to quickly reach the desired area and impose hostilities, trying to gain air and sea supremacy.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 19 September 2020 16: 35
    +5
    Well, against China, there is not enough strength in all!
    1. hrych
      hrych 19 September 2020 17: 55
      +1
      Quote: Theodore
      Well, against China, there is not enough strength in all!

      Why not enough? Or a hundred million will stop the plutonium charge chain reaction with their hands wassat In today's nuclear world, the amount of meat fried doesn't matter. In fact, with AUG, the Chinese are still taking the first steps. Airplanes with weapons cannot take off from the deck, ICBMs are one-piece and problematic. The aviation triad is represented by the Tu-16 subsonic clone, which falls short of the strategist, so for a long-range bomb carrier and no more. Opposite Ohio, the beautiful supersonic B-1b and the routine AUG. The PRC itself is surrounded by enemies. We managed to fight with everyone and get in the horn. Well-balanced Japanese fleet, to South Korean and Taiwanese to help NATO. And there is no need to push hard, but to block the Strait of Malacca and the PRC will collapse, without the supply of oil and other raw materials, including rice.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 19 September 2020 18: 42
        22
        Quote: hrych
        The PRC itself is surrounded by enemies. We managed to fight with everyone and get in the horn. Well-balanced Japanese fleet, to South Korean and Taiwanese to help NATO. And you don't need to push hard, and block the Strait of Malacca and the PRC will collapse, excluding supplies of oil and other raw materials, including rice.
        The Russian-Chinese border is over 4 thousand kilometers long. of which 600 km. land, which will allow China to receive all the necessary resources in spite of the blocked strait, unless, of course, by the time hostilities begin, relations between Beijing and Moscow will not be spoiled to zero, but something suggests that these relations will not be spoiled. hi
        1. hrych
          hrych 19 September 2020 19: 58
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          this relationship will not be spoiled

          The worst thing is oil and rice. We do not have a surplus of oil production. That goes to self-sufficiency, and the rest goes under contracts. To the same China wassat We supply the EU via oil pipelines, but we will not ship it to the Chinese. It's not technically easy. Yes, and we need it? These Maoists even tried to bite us, they had to kick it so that it wouldn't be okay. And the border is big, and the customs points are minuscule. Or through the windbreak and crossing the Amur, we will rush to transport them the tanks manually? In general, 55-65% falls on the supply of OPEC. Russia supplies 14%, the rest mainly goes through the Malacca Strait, well, there is also Brazil, so it's even worse, through the Panama Canal. But what about the rice supply? We didn't count on an extra billion wassat Therefore, a few days, well, months and a catastrophe, hunger riots, etc. But there was no need to destroy agriculture as a sacrifice to consumer goods, to drive the peasants into the internal gaster, there was no need to predatory poison the soil and create a cascade of dams with rotting backwaters. Who can sharply increase the supply of rice and other foodstuffs? India and USA wassat Not the point. Mr. Xi was appointed king for a reason. Well, they are trying to fill the oil storage under the throat, to prolong the agony. This is an attempt by the doomed to escape. The leaders of the PRC understand where they have gone, but nothing can be done, they still have a bad temper, they again climbed the Indians to no avail for some reason. And with fright they call them pragmatists.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 20 September 2020 01: 15
            +2
            Quote: hrych
            We do not have a surplus of oil production. That goes to self-sufficiency, and the rest goes under contracts.

            Well, contracts are both signed and terminated. America has long been shouting about Europe's energy security. America has shale oil, Middle East oil, our oil - it will be found that Europe can get in at exorbitant prices. So, I think there is no need to worry about the fact that we will have nothing to sell to China.
            Quote: hrych
            through the windbreak and crossing the Amur, we rush to ferry the tanks to them manually?

            It seems to me that building an oil pipeline to China is no more difficult than all our "Streams". Why do tanks by hand? "Eastern Siberia - Pacific Ocean" is already working, however, for offshore oil carriers. And who's stopping Transneft from building another one for China? There will be no sanctions, nor will the limitrophes blather about ecology. Yes, and no Navalny, even three times etched, will not hurt.
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 09: 10
              +3
              When the real economic blockade begins, the PRC will collapse in a few months, and the pipelines have been built for years. Our oil goes to pipelines and to the EU directly from wells. Rebuilding the circuit is more expensive. And we have oil in Western Siberia and the Volga region, not in Eastern Siberia. All logistics go to the West. And most importantly, why are we better Chinese than Germans? Prettier? Kind? Unified believers? Who are they to us? Is Russia interested in creating another superpower? We are interested in the dismemberment and occupation of China, I'll tell you what. We offered them the New Silk Road. No, they invested in maritime infrastructure. All, forward, to the Strait of Malacca, where a pair of American AUGs and one British will stand.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 20 September 2020 11: 37
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                And most importantly, why are we better Chinese than Germans? Prettier? Kind? Unified believers?

                Yes, they are no better. Only if the American dream of pumping its oil and gas into eurotolerasts comes true - Gazprom and Rosneft will need to earn money by hard work for yachts and villas in Nice. So they will be driven to China. And they don't care about geopolitics ...
                1. hrych
                  hrych 20 September 2020 12: 55
                  +4
                  US oil itself is in short supply. America is one of the super three oil producers, with CA and RF. But in terms of consumption, she needs the same amount. Conventionally, we can say that the United States devours its own and Saudi oil. Gas, yes, they want to siphon off their LNG. But you can't fill ships and airplanes with gas. If you're talking about yachts and villas, then the kids with their accounts are not in China either. On the contrary, then, to the detriment of interests, but shish China. When a tough economic war with the blockade begins, the Chinese accounts will be blocked first. They will have nothing to pay us. Is it gold. Yes and no they have nothing, except for a perky smile. Only drug cartels carry greens in bags, and now all the zeros are in the computer. There is no surplus oil on the market. Simply no. And it is extremely difficult to sharply increase its production.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 19 September 2020 20: 18
        +8
        Quote: hrych
        Well-balanced Japanese fleet, to South Korean and Taiwanese to help NATO. And there is no need to push hard, but to block the Strait of Malacca and the PRC will collapse, without the supply of oil and other raw materials, including rice.

        Do you really believe that by blocking the world's first economy, the United States will be able to stay afloat on its own?
        1. hrych
          hrych 19 September 2020 20: 31
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          world's first economy

          Firstly, not the first. The US is one thing more powerful, but the US economy cannot be considered within US borders. The whole West is one, it's called the Big Seven. Also, the US and the West have a network of vassals. If Japan was allowed into the Seven, then there is such a powerful vassal as South Korea. There are vassals in South America, Africa, Asia and Australia in person. Where is the economy under external control. There was a period and the economy of the Russian Federation was under external control, now they barely got rid of it and sometimes it rudiments. Both Trump and the EU have embarked on a course to regain their industries and jobs.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 19 September 2020 20: 38
            +7
            Quote: hrych

            Firstly, not the first. USA is one devil more powerful

            Quite a controversial issue
            Quote: hrych
            but the US economy cannot be considered within the borders of the United States.

            Correct. Look at the structure of the US economy, where the manufacturing facilities of Americans are located
            Quote: hrych
            The whole West is one, it's called the Big Seven. Also the USA and the West have a network of vassals

            I can bet on a bottle of good cognac that if we see a serious economic crisis in the United States, the allies, and even more so vassals, will be the first to kick the Americans.
            1. hrych
              hrych 19 September 2020 20: 47
              0
              Do not kick when in a country, even the closest, there is a Roman ... ugh, an American garrison. For reliability. And the United States is not a state in the usual sense of the word. But this is a separate topic.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 19 September 2020 20: 52
                +4
                Quote: hrych
                Do not kick when in a country, even the closest, there is a Roman ... ugh, an American garrison. For reliability. And the United States is not a state in the usual sense of the word. But this is a separate topic.

                This is a separate topic, but remember the history of the USSR. Everything fell down like a house of cards! How is the United States different in this part, a typical empire with all its flaws! Moreover, the countries "partners" are actually practically slaves
                1. hrych
                  hrych 19 September 2020 21: 08
                  +3
                  If the United States is a non-standard state, then the laws of the Empire do not apply to it either. We have always stereotypically believed that the Americans are stupidly sowing color revolutions, but here in the United States itself there is a color revolution, and in the literal sense of the word wassat Both the US and the EU control supranational structures. The US Army is subordinate to them, as is the general NATO army. The US government does not print money, but a certain Fed. And so, there are many more interesting facts. The Marshall Plan for Europe and the Dodge Line for Japan are also mysterious things when these ruined subjects were raised at the expense of the United States. I repeat, this is a separate topic.
                2. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 20 September 2020 01: 07
                  +3
                  The difference is that the pillar of the USSR was the CPSU. tried to destroy it, leaving the state. It didn't work out. The process was intercepted and brought to a victorious one.
                  Who knows the main pain points of the USA? And it was rightly said: the USA is a corporatocracy. You can even say a new form of state and where the needle is not clear. Yes, if for garlic, it is not clear what will happen to the world if the states collapse. And how it will happen. I don’t think they’ll be suspected on the sidelines of history. By their nature, they resemble cancer. Difficult to kill without killing the affected organism. That and between states, I am sure, is full of non-public agreements.
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 20 September 2020 01: 27
            +2
            Quote: hrych
            USA is one devil more powerful

            How to count ...
            If the banking sector, then yes. And the production? Look at Detroit, the birthplace of the American automotive industry. Where are Fords assembled? Everywhere except America. The last Levi's jeans were made in the United States in 1945 - the official website says. What processors do American computers run on? Yes, on the same as ours - on the Chinese. Just don't give me an example of "apple" gadgets - I have a Samsung smartphone, bought 7 years ago for 3 thousand Russian rubles and everything is still fine.

            The structure of the American economy is outrageously simple - banks and services. Trump, however, puffed his cheeks before the elections, "I will return production to America" ​​... So how? Returned? American hucksters also know how to count and, as Trump's presidential term shows, the US president does not order them.
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 08: 52
              +1
              In terms of processors, of course, Silicon Valley, ABM, etc., in aviation, of course, Boeing, Bell, Sikorsky, Lockheed and other monsters that the Chinese never dreamed of. Microsoft software, Linux and other Macintosh. The most powerful agriculture, the most powerful media sphere. Scientific institutes and laboratories stealing scientists and technology from all over the world. The nuclear industry, the sea of ​​nuclear power plants and nuclear-powered ships, which the Chinese never dreamed of. All submarines are nuclear-powered, all aircraft carriers are nuclear-powered. Detroid, yes, of course it suffered, but the headquarters of the most powerful auto giants are there. General Motors, Ford, and others have their own cluster. And Detroit has become empty not only because of competition and the transfer of production to countries with cheap workers, but also because of innovation, now automation and machines are not assembled manually. The hard workers were reduced, but they pulled the service sector. The military-industrial complex is the most powerful in the world and you cannot argue with that, and if Russia won the nuclear-hypersonic missile race, it was only due to the fact that it concentrated on certain topics, and not as a Union, tried to compete in everything and lost. Well, the credit and financial system is not even discussed. If we take GDP in terms of purchasing power parity of the real sector of the economy (industry, mining, agriculture, without banks and Hollywood makeup artists) per capita, then surprisingly in the United States and the Russian Federation it is equal and exceeds the PRC by 1,26 times. This is not counting Banks, Hollywood with a trillion dollar budget, Media resources, etc. That is simply concentrated in the USA. Well, the military-industrial complex, the same Boeing, the same Raytheon, the same Lockheed. Yes, the Russian Federation makes samples that are not inferior in quality (we know that they are superior) aircraft, missiles, helicopters, tanks, radars, air defense and missile defense systems, submarines, etc. And the PRC? A copy-paste of a fighter with an engine resource of 40 hours. Buying in the Russian Federation outdated and export equipment with underestimated indicators? No, the US is an industrial, agricultural, credit and financial, scientific, media, nuclear, space and mining monster. In terms of oil production, the United States is part of the triumvirate of leaders, i.e. Saudi, the Russian Federation and the United States. What kind of PRC is there?
              1. 54RG3
                54RG3 21 September 2020 09: 22
                +1
                Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

                In order not to search for all the errors in this text, here's just a couple:
                IBM has been sold long ago. New owner - Lenovo (PRC, suddenly)
                Linux is not American, but Finnish. And free distribution.

                But here are a couple of facts to think about:
                Do you know what this your ibiem (her forerunner) did during World War II? She made M2 Garand rifles for infantrymen, and at the same time - automated accounting systems for German concentration camps. Money doesn't smell.

                Fact 2: China is 95% of the production of all rare earth elements for microelectronics. As soon as China announces an embargo for the West, and there are no more of your phones, microprocessors, Boeing shuttles and other thermonuclear weapons ... They don't fly without electronics

                Fact 3: the valley is Silicon. Or are you talking about silicone in boobs?
                1. hrych
                  hrych 21 September 2020 10: 00
                  +1
                  Where did Lenovo buy IBM from? In a dream? Now the CEO is an American Indian. This is like an Armenian versus Azerbaijanis. wassat The Linux Foundation is a non-profit Linux development consortium. Headquarters in the USA and Japan. Red Hat is an American software company based on the Linux operating system. Incidentally absorbed by IBM. And so on. And it doesn't matter that Linux was originally. Now the States rule. For rare earth metals. They will not go anywhere, as will the smoking enrichment factories. Power and statehood will change. By the way, the Russian Federation and other countries with reserves of rare earth metals have become more active. Googled. From lack of oil and fuel, states die in a few months, from lack of food in a few weeks. And electronics without updating works for years. Just don't use Leningrad as an example, there was food there, but there was a shortage of it. If a person was not sick and did not lose the cards, then he was alive. There are hundreds of millions of hungry people here, but already with a built consumer society. Hatred of party members who belong to foreigners. The Han people are not one people, and they don't even understand languages. There are a lot of tribes, oppressed and oppressed. A typical example with Huawei, climbed above the level that was put and put in place. The entire West on command will declare an embargo, etc. And there is no point in trying to play by the rules of the Casino. Here you sit with trillions of IOUs. There is no one to exchange them for oil and gold.
                  1. 54RG3
                    54RG3 21 September 2020 14: 07
                    +1
                    from there. Google it myself. All business notebooks, x86 server processors iBM are now owned by Lenovo.
                    Yes, and Motorola too ...

                    Yes, and predictive nonsense about "power and course will change" began)))) Smishno ...

                    Continue to defend the position of "master" ...

                    By the way, if it comes to that, then a trillion of so-called IOUs thrown into the market will bring down the Dow Jones more abruptly than your Great Depressions ...
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 21 September 2020 15: 46
                      +1
                      Ha, ha. You say IOUs? So nobody takes them. Through the mouth of Obama, the United States officially disowned these pieces of paper when Hu Jintao complained about the loss of 300 billion, after the demarches of Goldman Sachs and Lemon Brothers. So just 300 billion into the fog. Duc and all these pieces of paper, well, in the Chinese closets. I repeat, for 50 years of hard labor, the Chinese people have accumulated into ... nothing. And even if the Chinese shareholders managed to buy important stakes in American companies, they will be explained that the Casino has won. Here is a typical example with Berezovsky. He was the richest man in the CIS and even his head. He owned television channels, an oil company, in short, factories, newspapers, and sailing ships. Thrown out of the country without wells and factories. But he had accounts in British banks. There are billions of zeros in computers ... and there are no zeros, multiplied by zero. And Berezovsky ... was strangled. Therefore, things with real value matter, not casino chips. Not only that, the Chinese tried to buy gold, but they slipped tungsten wassat Google it. Those. even gold is not sold just like that, unless fake. When we say that the dollar is in the calculation, it is an illusion, in real life there is barter and mutual settlements between states. The dollar is just a mathematical unit of calculation. And the same profit and so on. The same zeros in the computer. Nobody carries greens in bags. Those. not even cut paper. The US owes 18 trillion, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc. But they forgive everyone their debt. Well try to declare them bankrupt. wassat The Chinese bungled two aircraft carriers, but a fighter with a weapon cannot take off, so like to fly laughing and the Americans have catapults, to the eyeballs loaded Hornets throws. And how to claim debts back? Rather, the PRC will be canceled. Here is the coronavirus, but from where, straight from the PRC. People on self-isolation, consumption has decreased, the need for consumer goods has decreased. How much has the PRC's GDP dropped? So this is still no economic war.
      3. venik
        venik 19 September 2020 20: 19
        +8
        Quote: hrych
        And there is no need to push hard, but to block the Strait of Malacca and the PRC will collapse, without the supply of oil and other raw materials, including rice.

        ========
        Hmm! What is there to argue then? Well, yes: China provides half of the world with consumer goods ... And in Geyrop and the States - it generally holds 80 percent of the market ... Well, that they are "Gay Europeans" without Chinese TVs, washing machines, smartphones - won't last a few months? Yes, easily! ........ Here is just one, small, but unpleasant "BUT": There is money, but goods have disappeared ..... WHAT is happening? INFLATION, Sir!" Money supply "is has not gone anywhere.... And the GOODS are - Huh! And if this situation continues for more than 2-3 months: then there is not just "inflation", and not even "super-inflation" .... - here already "hyper-inflation "smacks of! And if there is hyperinflation - then all this"libertinian"model of the economy (so carefully imposed by the IMF and other" financial institutions ") - Chu-chu! -"covered with a copper basin"!!!
        By the way - a very recent story with the "coronavirus" - this is very good at confirming it !!!
        PS Well, the Chinese ... They are very people patient! AND very hardy! Rice is not enough - and ready to eat grass! And oil .... So it will go from Russia! They'll blow it out! Especially if WE help them!
        These are the "pies with kittens" !!!
        1. hrych
          hrych 19 September 2020 20: 42
          +1
          Consumer goods, which makes it different, that you can do without it altogether. Don't change TVs and phones in a year, but ... in two wassat But energy resources and food are scary. Especially when there is a huge population and the problem multiplies tenfold. Inflation? They don't care. This is their financial system, they are the owners of the "casino". Debt to the Chinese in securities? Cancel with China wassat The current credit and financial system is a bubble and a good way out is war, but since nuclear war and even with minimal return .. undesirable. That reformatting can be due to the economic liquidation of the PRC. So that's it.
        2. ltc35
          ltc35 19 September 2020 20: 59
          +8
          China is a controversial ally, and it doesn't make much sense to help him either. The Chinese consider us much lower than themselves. And the last thing: did they help us much in the context of the sanctions? No. They "wisely" wait for us to throw away our hooves in order to take everything that their hands can reach.
      4. antivirus
        antivirus 21 September 2020 12: 35
        0
        straight into the coffin - your conclusion
        .................................................. .....................................
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 September 2020 14: 12
          +1
          Of course not ... without coffins wassat rats will eat. When the Chinese declared war on the sparrows, and even managed to lose it with tens of millions of losses, the rats were also declared enemies. Therefore, everything is fair.
      5. sd000016
        sd000016 21 September 2020 17: 50
        0
        AUG are good floating targets for modern anti-ship missiles, their capabilities should not be exaggerated. In addition, the old US aircraft carriers are almost all in endless repairs, and new ones are constantly breaking down. The United States has recently switched from the production of things to the production of money, having pretty much lost the skills of producing things, so that they are far from all right in the military field. US military experts say that in order to lift half of the strategic aviation into the air, the other half will have to be disassembled for parts.
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 September 2020 18: 03
          +1
          This is for Russian systems, perhaps, but the Chinese do not have such technologies. It is in the sea that the AUG is a strong thing; in addition to the aircraft carrier, it includes destroyers with Aegis, yes Tomogavks, and several nuclear submarines with Tomogavks. Even half of the US strategists are quite significant.
  2. strannik1985
    strannik1985 19 September 2020 16: 40
    +6
    There is no need to keep the grouping of troops, but there is to support the anti-Russian hysteria in Europe. There are not enough forces for everything, so the Americans will outweigh their tasks on their allies.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 19 September 2020 16: 46
      +8
      Quote: strannik1985
      therefore the Americans will outweigh their tasks on the allies.

      And those have already picked up the baton.
      Bark in the direction of Russia every day everything only increases
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 21 September 2020 15: 43
      0
      they have enough energy and money for everything - but it is more profitable, cheaper to engage in such chatter
  3. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 19 September 2020 16: 42
    0
    Come on? US officials speak openly about this. The ILC is purposefully preparing for a war with China. All new systems are being built for the war with China and Southeast Asia.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 19 September 2020 16: 52
      +8
      At least they know how many Chinese people, so if they were afraid to disturb little Kim, I'm afraid that their ILC will sink into oblivion, as if he did not exist. The Chinese will replace them hand-to-hand when the pieces of iron run out.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 September 2020 16: 43
    10
    Well, we sat on the hill and watched how the others were fighting. It's time to get off, it seems we managed to pump up muscle in military terms. Welcome to the fights without rules in the international ring, dear Chinese comrades. good
  5. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 19 September 2020 17: 06
    +4
    If we agree (purely hypothetically) that let's start a war without the use of nuclear weapons, the Chinese pile up 100 percent for the Americans.)
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 19 September 2020 17: 11
      +4
      If you are barefoot with your fists, you don't need to swim across the Chinese and the Pacific puddle. Chinatowns alone are enough. wassat
      1. Yaro Polk
        Yaro Polk 19 September 2020 17: 44
        -1
        the Chinese will shower Amerzians with hats wassat
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 19 September 2020 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      If we agree (purely hypothetically) that let's start a war without the use of nuclear weapons, the Chinese pile up 100 percent for the Americans.)

      PLA - 2 million people on active service;
      NATO has at least 3 million active members.
      Comparison of weapons is not even worth it, I think.

      As for the mobility resource, then:
      1) The transience of the operation may well disrupt the Chinese mobilization plans.
      2) The population of NATO countries is under 1 billion people. China 1,4 billion. So it's not worth talking about China's overwhelming numerical superiority.
      3) Do not forget the Hindus. Japanese. And others are not from NATO. Together with them, the Americans will be in a significant majority.
      4) The reservists must be armed. The united economics and technologies of NATO countries + Japanese + Indians, etc. - clearly leaves the economy of the PRC far behind.

      So to say that the Chinese will sweep away the Amers in a conventional war is at least premature.
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 19 September 2020 21: 58
        -2
        Vietnamese, why ask the youth of the country to remember?
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 19 September 2020 23: 34
          +1
          Quote: meandr51
          Vietnamese

          By the way, they also have their own accounts with the Chinese.
          Plus, there are problem areas inside China itself:
          Tibet, East Turkestan (Uighurs), Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong, etc. And these are tens of millions of people and a sickly part of the economy (especially Hong Kong).
      2. Spartanec
        Spartanec 20 September 2020 02: 22
        +2
        Boris do you really think that all NATO, in a single burst, shouting "For Donald, and our beloved American Motherland," will climb in a single formation to defend American interests in the war? You are very naive sir))) Of course they will help (not for free) But it is unlikely to mobilize and send all your sons to die for America)))
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 20 September 2020 11: 44
          +1
          Quote: Spartanec
          all NATO in one

          The comrade offered to consider a spherical horse - a fight without nuclear weapons. Why not assume in this regard a united NATO rush against China? Moreover, there are grounds for this:
          The Turks will fit in with the Uighurs, the Brits will promise Hong Kong, the Portuguese will have Mocao, the Poles will go wherever they are told, etc. Non-NATO countries of the region such as Japan, India, the Republic of China (partially recognized) - and so they see the war with China in every second dream. Non-NATO colonial countries, such as Ukraine, will be happy to please the metropolis by sending a significant amount of tons of cannon fodder to this DB theater.
          Despite the fact that in China itself, as I wrote above, unity is not so simple.
          1. Spartanec
            Spartanec 21 September 2020 03: 04
            0
            So your comment does not contradict mine. I wrote HELP WILL BE (NOT FREE). But a war against China without nuclear weapons is not against Iraq, here it will take huge sacrifices to win and a truly total mobilization of human and material resources will be required, but I think no one is ready for this, including mattress)
  6. Asad
    Asad 19 September 2020 17: 20
    +4
    Interestingly, thirty years ago, did the Americans really not understand that they would raise such an opponent with their own hands?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 19 September 2020 17: 30
      +2
      By the way, while yesterday I climbed on the Chinese teachings, the Chinese report that they came out on top in exports to Europe. That's what the life-giving virus does and the life of a Negro matters. hi
  7. Wolf
    Wolf 19 September 2020 17: 21
    11
    Esley will look at the fact of the US missile defense system already in Rumunia and Polsha. Ukraine is being prepared and equipped, the attack on Belarus is underway, on the borders of western and north-western Russia, they are strengthening the military unit. Now it is being added to the east and south-east. Anaconda shrinks and there is no sense against Russia, but also against China. There is no BV for them now only problematic, because the trade routes with Asia (China) go in a shock and can also in the northern seas. If you control the trade routes, the free state can be crushed or forced to war.
    Their goal is already from Columbus to control trade routes and seize resources, if they take into account who is the richest country in this world in terms of resources, then there are no questions here against Cavo Anaconda are preparing.
    Their most important diplomacy is FIST AND ON THE BASHKA, which means that the military doctrine must be changed and allow oneself the FIRST SUDDEN STRIKE ON THE ELEPHANT'S POWER CENTERS.
    They themselves brought the world to this state that only by military force it is possible to avoid the destruction and occupation of the people and the country.
    I don’t see any other way out for today.
    If someone sees empty write what bi and mi saw?
    Restraining them did not establish in the implementation of aggressive plans towards "potential" enemies of Russia and China, and does not want a treaty!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 19 September 2020 17: 41
      +6
      On Friday, at the level of the ambassador to the United States, we raised the degree according to START 3. Today, Putin VV rewarding GA Efremov (creator of the Avangard complex) if you carefully study the speech, then our partners can expect a real cartoon and more than one. We are waiting for Monday, the State Department together with Pompey has no days off , you have to digest what we said. hi drinks
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 19 September 2020 17: 56
      +3
      Quote: Wolf
      Anaconda shrinks and there is no sense against Russia, but also against China.

      Each stick has two ends.
      Each snake has two sides ... good hi
    3. Errr
      Errr 19 September 2020 20: 28
      0
      Quote: Wolf
      Now it is being added to both the east and south-east. Anaconda shrinks and there is no sense against Russia, but also against China.
      Unexpectedly [expected smile ] inspired:
      Take it on your own, so as not to fall when walking.
      K / f "Brother", 1997
      Anaconda has a chance to damage its health up to ... smile
  8. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 19 September 2020 17: 59
    -1
    The Americans are about to break! It remains to hold out quite a bit!

    We survived in Syria, it was a kind of Moscow in 1941. And now it is 1942 - The enemy is trying to reach the Volga at its last gasp. Just a little more and let's start a counteroffensive!
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 19 September 2020 18: 51
    0
    Who needs vigorous ashes and obligatory vigorous ones are bald on their territory, especially bald in the place of important centers and cities ???
  10. Dikson
    Dikson 19 September 2020 19: 43
    +1
    It is unlikely that the United States will begin to behave aggressively directly with China .. It's too early for such behavior .. And the "liberated" troops to the Far East will go to the North .. Is it in vain that they fly there? The states are where the resources are ... Our whole idea of ​​the Northern Sea Route can be easily nullified by arranging permanent military exercises by the American side ... in the Bering Strait. a kind of Gibraltar ... or the Bosphorus .. They have already declared our Arctic as a zone of their interests .. the Taimyr Peninsula, it turns out, is the northern flank of NATO ... so the Chinese should not be sad ...
  11. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 19 September 2020 21: 28
    +1
    It's time for the Chinese to understand that not everything in this world is according to Sun Tzu. In other words, until the "friend" was squeezed, he kept hoping to sit on the shore "until the enemy's corpse floated by."
  12. Alsur
    Alsur 19 September 2020 23: 25
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    this relationship will not be spoiled

    The worst thing is oil and rice. We do not have a surplus of oil production. That goes to self-sufficiency, and the rest goes under contracts. To the same China wassat We supply the EU via oil pipelines, but we will not ship it to the Chinese. It's not technically easy. Yes, and we need it? These Maoists even tried to bite us, they had to kick it so that it wouldn't be okay. And the border is big, and the customs points are minuscule. Or through the windbreak and crossing the Amur, we will rush to transport them the tanks manually? In general, 55-65% falls on the supply of OPEC. Russia supplies 14%, the rest mainly goes through the Malacca Strait, well, there is also Brazil, so it's even worse, through the Panama Canal. But what about the rice supply? We didn't count on an extra billion wassat Therefore, a few days, well, months and a catastrophe, hunger riots, etc. But there was no need to destroy agriculture as a sacrifice to consumer goods, to drive the peasants into the internal gaster, there was no need to predatory poison the soil and create a cascade of dams with rotting backwaters. Who can sharply increase the supply of rice and other foodstuffs? India and USA wassat Not the point. Mr. Xi was appointed king for a reason. Well, they are trying to fill the oil storage under the throat, to prolong the agony. This is an attempt by the doomed to escape. The leaders of the PRC understand where they have gone, but nothing can be done, they still have a bad temper, they again climbed the Indians to no avail for some reason. And with fright they call them pragmatists.

    It became funny how a comrade presented the large length of the land border with Russia as a minus, in the event of the opening of the US front with China. I think new checkpoints will be needed, they will be opened. It is worse when you are completely surrounded by enemies.
  13. And why do you need
    And why do you need 19 September 2020 23: 47
    -4
    In the event of a conflict, the Chinese will massively cross the Amur and "populate" the far east of our country. Maybe this is a far-reaching strategy of the Amers?
  14. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 20 September 2020 00: 15
    -3
    I never liked the plow, but now I just want to laugh))))))))))))))
  15. certero
    certero 20 September 2020 05: 20
    0
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    What processors do American computers run on? Yes, on the same as ours - on the Chinese.

    Once again, read carefully where the processors are made. To China itself, mainland processors are not made.
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 08: 08
    0
    This is only for healthy people sur. This shit that has lost its shores is beating in the convulsions of the superhuman complex.
  17. Vdi73
    Vdi73 20 September 2020 09: 48
    +1
    "zircons", "vanguards" need to be stamped and more exercises off the coast of the states, with the use of the latest weapons, bases in Cuba and Vnesuela of the Aerospace Forces and the Navy, and maybe just do the Caribbean Fleet to form so that it hangs like a sword over the states.
  18. Country Councils
    Country Councils 20 September 2020 10: 26
    -1
    You can endlessly wave pins and swear at ovs, what "they are not good" - we do not care. As long as Russia is a colony https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_85.html they will continue to get sick. These creatures are recognized only by sovereign states, even North Korea, which cannot be seen on a map through a microscope. And the population of Russia chews snot and sits on the ass, instead of at least going to the post office https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_17.html
  19. bald
    bald 20 September 2020 10: 33
    0
    This may be so, but this is purely scarecrow for third countries, the semblance of force, forgetting about the submarine fleet, which will destroy the states in minutes, they naturally know well about this. Let the taxpayers waste their greens.
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 20 September 2020 10: 54
    0
    and threw military challenges to China, as well as Russia
    Cute. Commercials in passing. China is using us as a scarecrow for the United States, because its own huge army is still not fit for a real war. Therefore, any threat to China must somehow be sewn to Russia, yeah.
    I wonder when China will finally unleash a little war? You need to train ...